#building-and-recc-chat
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Good miners with good UVs and keeps the temp consistent likely puts less strain on the card than gaming all day
Second hand is always very risky
that's what I'm afraid of. I'm also afraid of not getting a gpu before april 30th
What's april 30?
If you have a full 2 months to get a card, there's a VERY good chance you can get a card from just entering newegg shuffles
And just watch stock tracking discords
and some amazon preorders
Uhh
sure!
I like nowinstock since that's more consistent for giving bb drops
Data lovers
Fair
Stockdrops is decent, but not good for looking for msrp cards
thank you guys!
i use pcbuildhelper
but i mean at this point best buy is the only retailer that actually sells the card i want at msrp
so i just stay on top of the drops
Lol, that website has things listed as in stock but def not
best buy? didn't even try them
They don't have anything even though the PCBuildhelper website says they do
I would maybe change out that not existent GPU, but everything else looks pretty alright
If it does turn out cheaper by a significant amount, maybe consider putting a 3070 on the list
It's not significant but enough to get maybe a better power supply or bigger drive
bad ssd and hdd also
adata ssd working hot mostly
id get kingston ssd and wd hdd
kingston sdd...
theyre good come on
not really
I have 6 years old kingston ssd it still working lol
and kingston hyperx rams are great too
Thats the beauty of an ssd
ballistix ftw
I didnt even know that existed
Oh crap it does
Impressive
yeah theyre lil bit expensive but i have brand addict lol
Interesting
for some reason some prebuilt pcs have it
even though its expensive for no reason
That makes no sense at all lol
I mean, ram at XMP is ram at XMP
Die only matters for overclocking
Provided XMP speeds and timing are good, doesn't really matter
I guess your right
The newegg chicken is delivering my package
I want it so bad
And idek what to do with it
If overclocked on stock cooler to 4.0-4.1 ghz ryzen 5 3600 is better.
Uh, that's below boost clock
and no, it's not
10400F with 3200mhz ram on B560 is more FPS
Did not mean to do that
?
10400f with 2666mhz ram is slower, yes
Ye you right
10400f with 3200 mhz ram is faster
But with an air cooler I can oc to 4.5-4.6ghz more fps in games
Compared to the i5
And yes stock
I5 is better and cheaper
But you also need to think about the future upgradeability
AMD need a new socket too for next CPU's
Tru
Both brands will require new sockets for new CPU's
Nah
Won't be that long
before the end of the year I'll bet someone will have a DDR5 and new socket board out
Yeah
Tru
On ddr5
Tho dem boards
They will need new cpus for them they will have them in stock yes but need to wait until cpu release or 1-2 weeks before release.
Guys, I know why there's a silicone shortage
I do believe so but explain incase if I am wrong
I mean, you obviously need a CPU for the motherboard, that's a given
One of them will do it before the end of the year
Am I wrong?
Nerds calm down y'all to smart for me
I do feel like that was a tech related issue
Lmao
Silicon is used to make silicone
1440p Ultra settings Gaming, Streaming and a bit of 4k editing and animation (Keystar, Animaker and Blender) The GPU is the Gigabyte Aorus mater type 6800 xt, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZB3qgt
Sorry, I should say alternate silicon atoms are used to make silicone
But its still silicon
Change the power supply. CXM is low quality, this is better for less money https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8
Anything else i should change??
CPu cooler is overpriced, EK 240mm RGB is cheaper and cools better but looks like a Corsair theme
This NVME is just a few bucks more and way faster https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Pilot-Encryption-Internal-MKNSSDPE1TB-D8/dp/B07RD1W6SB
the CPU is overpriced as well
Definitely
That's 5800x territory
You'll also get more performance out of 2 Dual Rank Ram sticks than 4 single rank sticks: https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K16G36C16U4BL/dp/B083VN3CP1
UNless you want all 4 slots filled for the looks
yeah, just yesterday the 5800x was instock for multiple hours, it seems only the bundles are left now.
I am officially at the 100 server limit

lame
turn tts on for everything for one second i dare you
Ok I got the advice and the push back due to pick a ryzen 5 3600
So here is the new build
Rate that for 1080p gaming/rec and steam
upgrade to a z490
This would be better
oh yea
B560 is way better for this price point
cut the b460 tho
This with a B560 motherboard
The ONLY downside to B560 is no CPU overclocking
I just put P400a in there but theres many other good cases in that price point
P360A is cheap and has RGB if you want that
@worn wave NO NOT THAT DRIVE
MP34 is the one i forgot the model
That HDD is the wrong model too
they dont have the CMR model on PCPP
Yes they do
diddnt show up for me
tbh mp34 512gb pricing is wack rn
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4yDDF8 Get this instead with a B560 motherboard
$1 difference
Might want cheaper psu like segotep 650w
since the old list was <1000$
and this new list plus b560 will be over if you don't save some monies
Thx looks great
?
This PSU instead
You didn’t know as much as you thought I guess, josh
Kk
Dummy
Na I know alot it's just want different options
Some people can think better then others. And think differently then most that's what I am looking for
WD is better than seagate
WD way more reliable
The speed is not a huge difference
If its just for normal storage its not a huge difference
Seagate failure rate high
If you really care about the speed then get a WD Blue 1tb thats 7200rpm or a WD Black thats 7200rpm
tell me about it 
also HGST
the ones with fragile af glass platters.
iirc they had the nickname of pixie dust lol
Because of how often they would shatter.
Stardust Crusaders
DeathStars instead of Desk Stars lol
lol
I can't remember any bad WD drives
Im sure they have made some.
wd black is most reliable ig
I prefer WD Red Plus CMR drives personally
here sitting 4 years old black with 100% health lol
seagate failing in 2 years mostly lol
both
also ive been debating new drives
there have wd purple too lol
both my drives have hit bad sectors
but i have two gen4 sabrents
so idk
2x 2tb might be nice
assuming cache and RPM aint horrible
I have sn750 as boot and sn550 for apps on my both pc 👍
damn expensive
yeah
wait im confused
5 years warranty lol
Oh
bottom one is usb
must be why its cheaper
obviously
It’s an external laptop drive made with consoles in mind
why do you have a SFX PSU
That list is no better than the original you posted
Its not
or SFF
You are better off getting a P400a for the case
k
and a Segotep 650w
has an SFX power supply
MP34 for the SSD
O.o
MX500 are great priced reliable Sata SSDs but its better to buy NVMe
I should check if sabrent rocket 4 pluses are on sale
They are still
Most cases, you can tell if they are good or not based on looking at them
also is there anything faster then sabrent rocket 4 plus now?
SN850?
275R isnt the worst case ever but IMO its ugly and there cases with far better airflow for the same price
price of a 970 Evo
Overpriced usually when theres similar performing drives for cheaper
Prices aint too bad currently tho
PM that is
idk its just general xd
Bruh
Revolution D.F. much better
Lmao
Oh hey, josh
750w on a 3060ti
I mean
I got a 3070
You told me along time ago
Did I?
I mean, B460 with 3200 mhz ram?
that won't even work lol
Lol
You know my memory is bad
B460 caps at 2666
wait doesn't 3060ti use so little wattage
200 watts or more actually
Depends on AIB
3070 vision gang actually lol
i mean, plus the intel
but also is that 750w?
I must be having a stroke tbh
because last iirc people running 3070s on even 650w lol
actually in stock gang

nvidia recommend 650w for 3060 even they're testing with i9 xd
lol
Im only running an 850w on my 3070 cause it was on sale
Best buy tried to get rid of their units
nice
and had a few left.
100 for a 850w
RMX 850w V2 Jap
My PSU fan never will hit load lmao
I running my 3070 vision with thermaltake thoughpower 750w

lol
Atleast its not P-GM
Its actually a good model
Psu and hdd upgrade
and thank the lord
How are your vram temps
lol. Im sad
didn't checked lmao 🤣
Bruh
I can't check my vram temps

no sensors
ahhhhhhhhh
i got my 3070 with 750w pgm combo but I sold it lol

P-GM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I sold it already lol
They were supposed to give me mine with Oloy ram

Newegg warehouse ran out of stock in november
of Oloy ram

lol
November
I big brained my pc
good
And built it 2020q4
because now everyone and grandma needs a 3080
for 32k solitaire
and stock badddd
Especially with taiwan drought
and silicon demand.
I built it at december but got 3070 just few weeks ago lol
also last iirc, silicon won't be back to normal for ages
since Car plants get the first batch
And sold 1660s for 300😂
/demand
My 2060 went for $500
Is that true?
non super lol
lol
I remember car plants getting demand of silicon first
last I read.
Yep prob gonna go to car plants first.
since all of them are sitting in idle.
idk about it but actually nvidia making more gpus than usual but idk how theyre out of stock 😂
Simple
too many people want them
Demand
Its not bots mostly
its too many people.
SMH
scalpers maybe 🤔
or miners 🤔
This is why you build your pc 2020
q4 lol
Zero Frozr is stupid
change my mind
whats 1660s prices now lol
Depends
A friend of mine got one for $300 at best buy
NZXT was selling refurb ones for $189 awhile back
I just want eth toughness to go through the roof right now so all the miners sell their GPUs
My parents were like, we should get you a new laptop for college soon
i was like
how about mini itx
lol
Sara
I want you to prepare
mine as much eth right now as possible
then put in cold wallet
store in hdd
wait 3 years
and make stonks
like dogecoin
I store on SSD
lol
Because dumb
Nah I need to get it to wallet somehow and I never keep my cold storage HDD plugged in
I’ll put the wallet on HDD when mining gets too hard
actually prebuilt 3090?

actually nvm overpriced
and I just checked temps it's gone up to 59C then fans maxed and cooled to 55c @wanton cliff
Uh
6 pages of prebuilts on wegg
out of stock lmao
oops 6 prebuilts*
and 2 pages mostly
Not surprised
Expensive prebuilt
You could build a 3080 PC for $1500 MSRP
Give or take
I mean, gpu market whack
people locally here want 3070s for 1500
also ive figured it out
buy mini itx case for gpu
put gpu in box
put everything else in backpack
and then take out at school
ez
Just get a super powerfull cpu laptop and get an external gpu
I was debating that
Put external gpu in backpack
just get clevo with 10900k
Sad
intel was nice and made it not a standard
do u expect chinese products to be good 


Sigh
a Ryzen 4000 laptop with thunderbolt would of been awesome
and you are seriously paying 200 for a box
smh
Because laptops have the flexibility
but not the power.
I need the power, speed
and awesome ness of a desktop lul
with dual gen4 m.2 nvme smh
just buy an ultrabook and use parsec
parsec linux?
https://www.amazon.com/Tangxi-Motherboard-Computer-Aluminum-Dissipation/dp/B085HR8PVH/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=open+frame+computer+case&qid=1614555514&sr=8-11 I was prob gonna use something like this
Parsec is awesome, I use it all the time
perfect emoji 😂

why use linux 
smh

SMH a remote desktop
What is this?
The next google chrome remote desktop?
I'd have to Spoof my MAC, make sure TCP and UDP ports aren't blocked through the school
smh
Parsec is annoying for moi
what is moi?
"me," in french
ahhhh i get it now.. lol my slow brain read it as M.O.I as if it was some kind of system
@little osprey
get this smh
SMH I aint paying 2 grand for a box and a 3080
how
actually looks nice if its aio
if its like the 2080ti one it is
u can go cheaper if that isnt a meme
gigabyte anything is a pretty terrible board
Holy crap $120 for a 200GE
They used to be like $40
Also that PSU is a bomb
Unrated 400w
Athlon 2000GE?
200GE
Most likely a meme
Are there any AM4 athlons under 50 these days?
id rather get one of the rosewills that just have psu come with case
like realistically if u dont upgrade youll be fine
Newbie question here. Installing an MSI GODLIKE MB and using an Enermax Revolution DF PSU. The MB has an ATX 24 pin and two ATX 8 pin connectors. Do I connect all three?
Manual doesn't say which one to use if you only plug one in. does it hurt to plug them both in?
What board exactly?
i dont think it matters, just have one pluigged in
Z490
I know X570 won't boot with an 88 pin and a 4 pin
Z490 Godlike
lemme check
CPU_PWR1
It also has an ATX 6 pin PCIE_PWR but not sure if that is just for convenience to power the GFX card and doesn't need to be used if I plan on powering the GFX from the PSU.
Yeah, that's unusual
Which most people don't get lol
Ok thanks guys
yup np
Actually, it doesn't matter which CPu power connector is used.
3090 11900K build?
sure as hell aint "good" but it would work
Seems like a good idea to me
Another newbie question....Does the PSU fan go up or down? I would assume up, but there is a screen on the bottom of the case where the PSU mounts and the underside of the PSU is a solid plate.
down
it's preference sorta, I prefer down
although it looks like that case doesn't really have intake for up
Yes
Filter on the bottom, fan goes down
I couldn't imagine removing the shroud, doesn't look like it has a way to remove it without destroying it
that's normal
don't need a filter for up since it's getting its air from inside the case
either way
if you have a hole on the bottom, go down
just as long as the PSU can get air.
Doesnt matter but kinda better to make the fan face down
because then you blow the hot air out instead of into your case
from your psu
if no filter if you have one on the top its auto top
Ah.
Hello :D
What??? The psu fan is an intake...
Also the exuast of a psu is the back mainly
Where all those holes are
Don't think I've ever seen the exhaust of a PSU going into the case
Only the intake coming from inside or outside
Yeah that's what I was thinking
Like the case of the psu may get hot but won't rly put much heat of any into your pc case
fan blows air over the inner components and usually out the back yeah
I've seen the fan be the exhaust (pulling air in from the back and into the case) but it was a really, really poorly designed unit
Xd
mb i mis worded it
I'm talking so bad it wasn't even on the tier list, but weighed as much as you'd expect an E tier to be
flick it and it sounds hollow lol
i meant it would be better as an exaust cuz he had 3 intakes
What have a just walked into
My FSP 280w had a smaller fan on the inside, on the panel that has the cables
does msi mystic light affect my pc? in any type of way
or is it perfectly fine to use
Software?
yeah
If it's an RGB software, it would use up some CPU/RAM
So far my build is failing. I turned it on for just a moment and got blinking lights. Manual says that if the CPU is blinking it indicates a CPU is not detected or fail.
That sounds like you have a dead short somewhere
I removed the CPU and reinstalled, no change. I didn't want to install the heatsink until I knew it would boot.
But weird that it's cycling like that, usually it'd stay off
why do you have an m6000 btw
Just tried to buy the best graphics card I could. Its for work
Why does msi mystic light not work for me
Legit i downloaded msi lighting software and windows got angry at me
I couldnt allow it either

My msi works fine.
Just use dragon center and uninstall the garbage that it comes with
Then uninstall dragon center and pray your rgb stays the same 👍
Ok guys
Witch PC bild is better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BkNh8J intel or AMD https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NtMqgt
10850k >>> 5600x
The 10850k Is better
Yes
Ok
Both those builds can be improved tho
Gimme a sec
The 220T is an automatic no
With a triple fan card too?
Yikes
AIO in 220T is garbage
?
p31 is 75
Is it
Reason: Bad word usage
Ok
why 10850k for a 3060ti
Also it’s under budget
He chose the 10850k and 3060Ti
I elected not to change them in favor of waiting for someone else to say something about it
make a better choice for him
What would you do?
10700k
How about a 5800x?
I got the i9 10850k on a discount
You already bought it?
Well alright then
Then why did you ask if AMD is better?
lol
I might return it
Yea
@sullen spoke sorry for the thing
It was a typo
C is right next to x
I was trying to say ‘give me a sec’

Lol
lol
Epic
that was a funny typo
Ikr thats p much my face when
yelled at me
I was very distressed
Little late, but PCs can boot without a heat sink on the CPU, you just can't run it continuously after boot though, otherwise you can damage the CPU.
itll boot but i wouldnt run it for more than a few seconds
That's all you need sometimes
Boot, look for a post, and shut it off
I think thats what some people do before putting a custom loop in their PC, cause other wise you would be heart broken having to take apart the whole loop just because your PC wouldn't boot
Nope the reason the fans on psu are intake is because they cool components better and are more efficient
Better to put cold air on components rather than push warm air out
Bruh that's why thermal throttling exists, so it won't damage itself, and if it gets too hot it will shut itself off
Obviously genius, but even if a CPU gets to a point where it shuts itself off, it can still potentially cause damage, and also, there really is no need to run a CPU without a cooler other than to test for a boot.
or you want to cook food
Don't wait for the PC to shut itself off cause parts are getting way too hot
Mmm the new ones are pretty good at themral throttling
I think the 3600 stops around 90 sumthin
Maybe it'd damage it if it was at it's thermal limit for a long time, but wouldn't really hurt it for a minute or two
Again, why would you need to have a PC on long enough without a cooler to get to that point?
I can think of a bunch of reasons
You wanna use a 5k amd cpu
No bios flashback
And you have a 3000 series
So you don't wanna put a cpu cooler on your 3000 series just to update bios
What if that update takes a while?
Or the update doesn't work at all?
Same issue happened to my friend
Why wouldnt the update work?
Idk maybe corrupted bios file
On usb
I updated my bios
I mean ur only gonna find that out after you slap in a 3000 cpu like ryan is saying
Yeah you can't get in bios with a 5k cpu when old bios
And if you don't have flashback then you have to have a 3k to get in
Either way, running your cpu without a cooler for an extended period just isn't a good idea
Yeah for sure not long term
Yes, you could update your bios without a cooler on, but if the update is taking too long, better to put the cooler on than it is to leave it off.
Yeah I just placed cooler on when updating bios on parents pc
Since they got 5600x
Put pc on its side since all ssd and no hdd
Your parents be gaming?
Yeah
Gave them a 400$ 2080ti I bought used
Lol ik it's a better card than I have
But they paid me 400$ for it
You got a 2080ti for $400?
Damn
When every 2080ti got scared
Talk about a deal
Yup
You remember that day the 3k series got announced?
And 2080ti ppl sold like crazy?
Yeah
I bought mine like a day later
Except it didn't look pog in my pc
Cause I have a red and black theme
Wish I was GPU shopping at that time
can someone send me a build for medium-ish gaming (nothing really AAA), vid editing, $1100 USD, 1440p? i dont want to get yelled at unlike in a couple other servers
Couldve robbed me a 2080ti
yeah super great deals at the time
I'll hook you up with a build that has the new 8090ti
sweet
lol this was my build back in july
nope just the pc
Alright
still better than my laptop
8090ti pog tho
yep but cant wait for the 11090 super tho
What games you gonna be playing?
minecraft, scrap mechanic, i want to try playing valorant but i3 7020u be like
720p better for weaker hardware
i want to try hitting 1440p but like idk i can downscale it to 1080 if some games end up being too hard to run
nah those are pretty easy
3060ti or 3070 would run those at 1440 good settings i feel
1440p is the new 1080p
if i can grab a 3070 that's cool but like im probably getting 3060 ti
yeah
1 0 8 0 p p E a S a N t
lmao
but yea with the monitor im looking at i get double resolution which is pretty cool
Kewl
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LV2gHz @little osprey
Ahhhhh slow phone
This will do 1440p ultra settings in every game except Cyberpunk and the new COD game just fine
tack on the $90 and yep
Allow me

h u h
why such fast ram for a 10600k
Cause B560 supports it and I was too lazy to change it
Cuz it'll help a little bit
3200mhz won’t be much less expensive tho
and pro4 is $100
Oh yeah
wait nvm that works
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Rn39N
DS3H doesn’t have flashback
Which is why I put the B550 TUF
From 10 to 4
That is to say
10pm to 4pm
w h a t
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HgCsgt hm how does this look?
Slow
the 10600k cant support fast ram tho
Neither can Zen3 CPUs technically but that doesn’t mean they don’t benefit from fast RAM
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XxVrXb k what about 3200
Why would a b560 have support for 3600mhz RAM if it won’t work with a 10600k?
AMD benefits more from faster ram speed than Intel does
Literally 3 dollars less than 3600mhz ram
Doesn’t mean Intel doesn’t benefit tho
Yeah, just AMD benefits more, even if it technically doesn't support it
We aren’t doing an AMD build tho
What I’m trying to say is
Why only pay $10 less for 2666mhz RAM when you can get 3600mhz RAM
He can do whichever one he chooses
Too expensive
i am just lurking chat while you two argue lmao
We do that often
He always says ‘get the objectively worse thing instead of the objectively better thing, usually because it looks nicer’
‘Or because it’s from Gigabyte’
No, that's for me
oo shots fired
If I'm building a system for someone else, I will tend to go better performance over better looks
nomad defend ur thesis or something idk
I want the nice things in my pc, even if ita not the best you can get, cause at the end of the day, Im the one looking at it, not someone else
you can post it online for fake internet points tho
Sure can
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger
The point of this chat is to minmax every build to the very best it can be at a certain price (with some caveats)
but as we all know, rgb = 100000 more fps
Cause let's be honest, a server PC has better performance than any of our dream pcs, and it's ugly as balls, but you don't have to look at it thankfully
Untrue
My pc with dual 3090s and a 3990x with 2tb of RAM will beat most servers
Hypothetical PC
But still
Cause the 3990x has 4x as many cores
You are cringe
nop
Kinda is tbh
Threadripper really only used for heavy editing and servers
better than among us servers for sure
I mean, a lot of servers use TR?
Epyc servers are probs the only thing that are going to beat a 3990x server
Or Epyc, yah
And even then, not usually a 3990x
just run a server from ur i3 7020u 🙄
It's possible
If you're doing a local server for friends
Most servers right now use Mattise CPUs or Xeons
technically correct but like
local servers from that low of a cpu is
Would be great to host a couple people in Minecraft
ehhhhhhhhhhh
Xeons, eww
yea not many
id rather just run a realm
use mc servers instead of ur own
Yeah, pay Microsoft for the occasional unstable servers
Realms gronsk
tbh they're not the worst
And expensive
use gcp ez
And you can only have 3 people on a realm at once
$8.99 a month for 10 people
no it's 10
Compared to elec costs for a i3 7030u or whatever you said, a 3 person realm is more accurate for price
And the i3 could host at least 10 people
Idc
He gave me a budget
I filled it out
Or a 5990x whenever that's a thing
It may very well not be, honestly
Or he's doing video production, 3d and minecraft
SMH
TRX40 is getting kinda old too
You don't know that.
Also, Nomad, there is no such thing as ‘good enough’ on this server
Only ‘best it can be’
Oh trust me, if I wanted a 3090 and a 5950x, I'd get one, but I don't need it
Some college student messaged me and my friend about our build service.
x4 3080s
for data computing.
Idk much about that
Can you even fit that in a pc?
Better cores is better than more vram and stuff like that for data computing, right?
and a board with multiple slots
Yes.
and vram
Riser cables, server board
both
Simple
Someone correct me if there are ampere quadros





