building-and-recc-chat

[vapid bay]

Around $400 for a 1660

Super

[sharp tundra]

well those prices are anywhere in the world right now

[vapid bay]

And it's pricing is steadily increasing as of now

[sharp tundra]

not just philippines

its because scalpers are buying up all the new stuff and reselling them at high price points

[vapid bay]

Yes that's why i'm just sulking and going for an apu build instead

My mom's the one that'll pay for it so buying scalpies is a big no

Idk when this'll go down (if it even will) so yea

Apu for now ig

[sharp tundra]

yeah, thats good move for now i guess, i personally would have waited because spending money on APU isnt worth waiting for a GPU IMO

you can get a nice Ryzen 5 3600 and just hope one day you can get your hands on 3060 soon

[jagged ember]

but why not just a 10400F

[vapid bay]

Uh

[jagged ember]

oh, wait amd motherboard

[sharp tundra]

but you do what you feel is best

[vapid bay]

Yea that's my main plan

10400f is bae

[charred compass]

hi guys i have a question is a

evga 3070 ultra ftw3 ultra
compatible with a MSI MPG z390 gaming edge motherboard LGA 1151?

[vapid bay]

But gpu pricing is my main problem so i gone back to amd apu

[jagged ember]

10400F is still cheaper than the 3600

[vapid bay]

Yes

[sharp tundra]

yes, you just wont get pcie gen 4 capability out of your mobo, not too big of a deal tho

[vapid bay]

U see my name, yes?

[charred compass]

thank you.

[jagged ember]

indeed

[vapid bay]

Gpu hunt is very poo

[sharp tundra]

i will say that you living in the phillipines does put you at a disadvantage due to manufacturers being biased on first world countries to ship cards too first, like US, UK, and EU

but hopefully you can get your hands on one without having to pay out the ass for it

[vapid bay]

One of my options as of now is to prob buy on newegg or bh or somewhere that those 1st world countries would buy too

Hope i get a 5600xt instead of a 1660S

[sharp tundra]

i used to have a 5600xt

never actually got to use it

cause i traded it before i even finished building my pc

im building a new pc tho here soon, gonna be really nice

[uncut pelican]

Nice pants too

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys just wondering is not being shipped from Hong Kong ???

[mortal garnet]

i think you missed a word in the sentence

[nimble agate]

lol

[wicked frigate]

Is parts not being shipped form Hong Kong I meant

[muted patio]

What are you even talking about?

[nimble agate]

maby

IS

is that a name of a pc part?

[mortal garnet]

are you coming to this conclusion because of covid19 originated from china ?

[muted patio]

I don't even know what they're asking

[wanton cliff]

I think he is talking about shortages because of export stuff maybe?

[mortal garnet]

im not sure tbh too lol

[wanton cliff]

everything that you buy, epsolandude, is coming from a warehouse in the US

[nimble agate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FsNY7X idk if this is what this chat is for but what do yall think of this pc?

[muted patio]

From Newegg anyway, unless it's a third party seller

[wanton cliff]

seagate

[muted patio]

Recommend a 10400F and B560 motherboard

[mortal garnet]

pretty sure the 350x has a successor to it

[wanton cliff]

^

[muted patio]

cheaper and beats 3600 in games

[mortal garnet]

p360a

[wanton cliff]

^

[nimble agate]

ah i see

uh

[wanton cliff]

also WD Blue

[nimble agate]

what are those?

[wanton cliff]

or Toshiba X300

[mortal garnet]

^

[wanton cliff]

in order: CPU, case, storage

[mortal garnet]

not tryna throw a bunch of information at you all at once, so ill slowly give recommendations lol

[wanton cliff]

10400f with B560 motherboard, P360a, WD Blue or Toshiba X300

[fast dust]

and no need for such a bulky cooler on a 10400f

[wanton cliff]

the seagate drive you have on there has a bad rep

[nimble agate]

ok

[mortal garnet]

since you have an matx mb, you can opt out for a mb311 for 60usd

but its pretty clear where they opted to cut corners in, you wont have rubber grommets or whatever for cutouts etc

[nimble agate]

this is storage?

[wanton cliff]

yes

[nimble agate]

ok

[wanton cliff]

your hard drive specifically, not your ssd

[nimble agate]

the WD blue is case

[wanton cliff]

ssd is pretty much fine

[nimble agate]

ok

[wanton cliff]

you could go for a Muskin Helix L but idk if those are cheaper in 500gb variants right now

[nimble agate]

ok

[wanton cliff]

how do you say "my name is" in hiragana

in romaji... what is it, watashi wa onemae wa [name] desu or something?

[mortal garnet]

idk, i can barely read english subtitles

hopefully you find the answer tho lol

[wanton cliff]

watashi wa means variants of "me", like "i am" and things like that

onemae means name

desu is more or less a sentence ender like ka

[mortal garnet]

oooo

thanks for the mini lecture

[wanton cliff]

idk how to put them together tho

[mortal garnet]

whenever i plan to visit japan, ill try to remember what you taught me lol

[wanton cliff]

I forgot

heh

alright lol

wait I think I remember

ok lets see

hajimemashite

watashi wa sara desu

or something like that

lemme check

[mortal garnet]

oof

i think i remember how to say it in french

je m'appelle _________

[wanton cliff]

watashi wa gosaidesu

doozo yoroshiku

thats standard first introductions

including the hajimemashite part

which is first time greetings

[mortal garnet]

seems complicated

[wanton cliff]

there are a bunch of different ways to say 'hi' in japanese

Hajimemashite if its your first time meeting someone

[mortal garnet]

dont think im big brain enough to learn it

[rich helm]

The real bilinguals are the people who say hola to the waiter at the Chinese restaurant

[balmy patio]

nahhh

the people that say "you too" to the waiter when she/he says "enjoy your food"

[muted patio]

I've done that

[stoic island]

I always do that

[muted patio]

Seriously felt awkward afterwards

[mortal garnet]

cashier told me thanks for shopping here or something and i said you too

[stoic island]

Well when they say have a nice meal

[mortal garnet]

thank god i hve a mask on and rarely go out

[stoic island]

Out of habit :p

[static ravine]

lol

[sage crown]

is this a good monitor Gigabyte M27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 170 Hz Monitor

[mortal garnet]

yup

[sage crown]

ok thx

[mortal garnet]

np

[rich helm]

I plan to get that monitor

[mortal garnet]

i almost got it

theres like 3 monitors in that price range that basically all perform the same

pixio's option had a nice discount so i went with the px277 prime instead

[sage crown]

so i was checking to buy but i cant for some reason

its says on newegg "This product cannot be shipped to MN

[mortal garnet]

try amazon or bh

[sage crown]

ok thx

wait

can you check if this ram is ok for price

[mortal garnet]

link ?

[sage crown]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GreedyOtter/saved/8N3mD3

[stoic island]

not good for price

Try ballistix 3600mhz cl16 at ~87$ for 2x8gb

[muted patio]

Not RGB tho

[sage crown]

ok man

[mortal garnet]

ballistix has an rgb variant

[sage crown]

i dont care for RGB but i kinda want it to be white

[mortal garnet]

and white ram too

welp you can get white and rgb

[sage crown]

ok good

[mortal garnet]

or jus white

[muted patio]

RGB Ballistix

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548861-REG/crucial_bl2k8g36c16u4bl_ballistix_rgb_16gb_8x2_3600.html

$100

[mortal garnet]

the m.2 is a bit pricey imo

[sage crown]

but the build is good right tho

ya i know

i already have one and its on my laptop

should i get a 500GB one for windows or no?

[muted patio]

That M.2 is really overpriced

https://www.amazon.com/SK-hynix-Gold-PCIe-Internal/dp/B08DKB5LWY

[sage crown]

what would you recomend

[mortal garnet]

vintage how does that compare to the sn750 jus curious

[muted patio]

Faster

[mortal garnet]

oh okay

he could get a mp34 and a wd 1tb hdd for the same price as that gigabyte m.2

[muted patio]

Yep, or that

[sage crown]

So this is the ram I found is this good copy for phone so sorry Crucial Ballistix 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G32C16U4W (WHITE)

for 79.99

newegg

[mortal garnet]

that good

[sage crown]

is it then

[mortal garnet]

intel isnt as ram dependent as ryzen

[muted patio]

Why not RGB for $100

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548861-REG/crucial_bl2k8g36c16u4bl_ballistix_rgb_16gb_8x2_3600.html

[sage crown]

cause i just want white man

[muted patio]

Easy enough, stand by

OH, just white, no RGB?

[sage crown]

no my build is almost all white you not see it

[muted patio]

I'm asking, plain white or white with RGB?

[mortal garnet]

rgb ram does add a lot of flair to a build imo

[muted patio]

Current ram in list is RGB, that's why I'm asking

[mortal garnet]

whether if its static or rainbow puke

[muted patio]

no RGB white ram https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K8G36C16U4B/dp/B083TRX7FX?th=1

RGB white ram https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1548863-REG/crucial_bl2k8g36c16u4wl_ballistix_rgb_16gb_8x2_3600.html

[sage crown]

ok i will do RGB

lol

[mortal garnet]

you sold him lol

[sage crown]

yup

[mortal garnet]

itll be worth

[muted patio]

For $100?

So cheap why not?

[mortal garnet]

i remember spending 180 for 16gb of rgb ram back in 2018 or so

rough times

[sage crown]

nooooo

its out of stock on newegg

[muted patio]

Ram prices SO HIGH back then

[mortal garnet]

it was really bad

and when prices finally dropped, ram prices looked wrong to me lol

[balmy patio]

i remember back when my friend paid $55 for 3200cl16 2x8

[sage crown]

is the mushkin enhanced pilot E any good for a 1 T M.2 ssd for 107.99

[mortal garnet]

if you wanna get a budget m.2, go for the mp34

should be around $110

[muted patio]

Yes, slow speeds tho

MP34 is the $100 fast one

[sage crown]

ok

[stoic island]

@mortal garnet pilot e and mp34 are both good

[mortal garnet]

yea but if iwere to pick one then id go with the mp34

[stoic island]

@muted patio You sure you're not mixing up pilot and pilot e?

[mortal garnet]

oof i mixed them up

[sage crown]

i am getting the pilot E cause its on sale for a 1T

so is B&H good place to buy stuff ?

[mortal garnet]

yea its a good option

most definitely not my first place to look for stuff

but theyre legit etc

[sage crown]

hell na

i forgot i live by a stupid microcenter

[balmy patio]

smh

[mortal garnet]

must be nice

closest thing i had to a microcenter was a frys

[sage crown]

lol

[mortal garnet]

and rip them

[sage crown]

just found the non RGB one for 86$

[muted patio]

Frys has been garbage for a few years now

Writing was on the wall a long time ago

I miss them tho

used to be able to walk in and buy everything you needed to build a PC at good prices

[stoic island]

rip

I've never seen a frys in person

[muted patio]

You gotta be old like me

[sage crown]

nvm they sold out

[severe axle]

I went there to get corsair kb+m

[stoic island]

y

corsair kb very meh

[mortal garnet]

ive been to a frys a few times, but im not that old

[sage crown]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GreedyOtter/saved/8N3mD3 so this is my build completed just need to go rob a poor guy that has a RTX 3080

[muted patio]

Looks good

[sage crown]

kinda went over my buget of 2K

USD

[muted patio]

Ah, with the GPU yeah

[sage crown]

cause all the parts besides the GPU will be 1,721.81$ USD in newegg

[stoic island]

board can be cheaper

could go 10850k to save 100$

3080FE Is 700$ flat

[sage crown]

ya i was looking at that board but i still new

so do any of you guys know when a 3080 will be back on stock ?

[muted patio]

Best Buy, 2 weeks

Newegg, Hopefully the Monday SHuffle

Amazon and everyone else, who knows

[sage crown]

ok

thx

[robust tide]

When I build the pc do I leave the power switch off or on when building since some people say it can cause static

[muted patio]

Uh

just leave it unplugged

don't plug in the power cord until you're ready to boot

[fossil halo]

flex

[uncut pelican]

Idk who I will give it to tho

[fossil halo]

me

jk

i want the 3060ti fe

nothing else

[uncut pelican]

Nice

[fossil halo]

i think i should get one by july do you think

assuming i stay on top of the best buy drops

[grand orchid]

Has anyone here used python before?

[desert gulch]

I've dabbled in it

Not much at all

Prolly like 15-20 hours

[fossil halo]

programming language?

if yes then yes

im pretty bad at it

and forgot most of it

[brittle tinsel]

is the 3080 gonna give a reasonable boost in performance for 3D modeling and stuff like that or will the 3070 be better off in terms of saving $200'

[fossil halo]

i think 3080 is far better

3080 is supposed to have good price to perf

high price, higher perf

[brittle tinsel]

I know its got good price to perf

[fossil halo]

3070 is kinda not worth it

bc its not much more than the 3060ti

which is 100$ less

[brittle tinsel]

but what im asking is if that step up is worth going $200 over budget for it

[fossil halo]

i mean if u have a budget then whats the question

u should keep a strong budget

absolute max

and decide in that

vintage has a 3070 i think

like if u can go 200$ more then go for it

but if u cant then 3070

there will be a perf difference but there is also a money difference

it is worth it tbh

more cores and also that gddr6x

[brittle tinsel]

well I orignally was gonna do 3060 but ive got a couple of friends who say 3070, a friend that wants me to get a 3090 (cant afford at all) and a couple people telling me 3080 will be better off for 3D modeling and such, its nothing but a rollercoaster of opinions and im just trying to see whats best before blowing money

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

i feel u

first of all

[muted patio]

I mean for modeling, the more VRAM the better

[fossil halo]

3060 is dogwater

dont get it

or in that case

get it

[muted patio]

So 3090 will be king

[fossil halo]

idek about modeling

[muted patio]

Otherwise, I'd just get a 3070

[fossil halo]

3090 and then 3060?

[muted patio]

Unless the 3080TI will have 20GB but latest rumors are 12

[fossil halo]

tru

[stoic island]

I has a quick look at 3060 perf and it's not impressive at all

[brittle tinsel]

does 3080 have more vram than 3070?

[fossil halo]

but i think 3080ti would be out of this dude's budget

[muted patio]

But then 3080 is also GDDR6X so

[fossil halo]

yes

[stoic island]

In some cases, 2060 super beats 3060

[muted patio]

Bandwidth

[fossil halo]

its memory is faster too

[fossil halo]

yea

3060 is pretty dog

[stoic island]

3080 is 10gb gddr6x and 3070 is 8gb gddr6

[muted patio]

Complete dog

[fossil halo]

100% worth saving for 3060ti

[brittle tinsel]

dont know the 6x over 6 means

[stoic island]

Overall 3060 is between 2070 and 5700xt it seems

Not horrible

@brittle tinsel better

[fossil halo]

x means faster

[brittle tinsel]

ah

[muted patio]

I mean, 20-30% less than 3060TI

Not worth IMO

[stoic island]

It's a different vram model/generation

[fossil halo]

ye

stupid tariffs omg

[stoic island]

Yea, 3060 not worth unless it's bad launch day drivers or smth

[fossil halo]

now founders is the only card worth gettings

[muted patio]

based on pure specs, I'd say the 3080 is worth it IF you can get a Founders Edition for decent price

[fossil halo]

and everyone wants the founders

yea

only foundres

go for the 3080 founders

[brittle tinsel]

my build will be used for 3D modeling, video editing, C# scripting, gaming and streaming. turns out its hard to build a build capable of the mix, everything focuses on one task and that seems about it

[stoic island]

3080 fe drop yesterday lasted about 4 minutes or so

You need to be quick

[fossil halo]

3080

[fossil halo]

less

i was there

[rancid lodge]

Why is the dark hero in such demand

[stoic island]

I was there too

Lemme check exacts

Brb

[fossil halo]

and second wave was the tiniest wave all of mankind has seen

[rancid lodge]

I don't understand why so many people need such a specific mobo

[muted patio]

because people think they need an OP motherboard to overclock their CPU

[fossil halo]

literally sold all 4 cards they had in stock in 3 seconds

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

imagine

[rancid lodge]

but do you really

[muted patio]

Nope

[stoic island]

3 minutes for the first drop, aparently 3080 dropped twice yesterday, only saw the earlier one.

[muted patio]

I mean, if you're LN2 overclocking then yes

OTherwise, no

[rancid lodge]

yeah I just got myself a tuf gaming x570 pro for my 5900x since I won't be doing any crazy overclocking since I've never overclocked before

[stoic island]

Dark hero got their marketing on point

Otherwise not much

[rancid lodge]

yeah

[stoic island]

A god damn like b550 ds3h will run a 5950x stock :p

[rancid lodge]

yeah

[stoic island]

OCed, even something smol like I dunno, pro4 might handle a slight oc, maybe aorus pro will handle most of normal non-xoc

[fossil halo]

i got a b550ds3h

its ok

[stoic island]

Yes

That's the point

[fossil halo]

except for that gigabyte part

[stoic island]

Ok board works

@fossil halo smh I like gb boards

Aorus elite ax is bae

[rancid lodge]

idk much about overclocking really so

[fossil halo]

thats aorus

[stoic island]

:p

[brittle tinsel]

how does something like this look for those tasks?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=ttfmD3

[stoic island]

Still a gb board

[rancid lodge]

Ima need a tutorial once I actually get my 5900x but I won't be doing crazy stuff regardless

[muted patio]

Mmm, seriously consider a 5000 series CPU

The IPC increase is worth it

[rancid lodge]

3600x is getting easier and easier to get

[muted patio]

Especially for $500

[brittle tinsel]

who me?

or sniper

[muted patio]

yes

[rancid lodge]

while the 5600x

is still iffy

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel that power supply is the old crappy focus fx, not the nice newer focus gx

[rancid lodge]

but also getting better

since most people are going 5600x

or well no, most people on the lesser end

5900x is the hardest to get

[muted patio]

AMD.com had the 5900x in stock yesterday

[fossil halo]

jeez cl18

[stoic island]

Pretty sure focus fx was the unit with ocp tripping issues too, don't quite remember

[muted patio]

Not sure if they still do or not

[fossil halo]

idk if that matters for modeling tho

[brittle tinsel]

Ill be 100% honest, ive already stepped out of my comfort zone trying amd for the first time and with this being my first self built pc, the whole bios flash thing scares be because this is alot of moeny to screw something up

[rancid lodge]

I failed to get all three drops yesterday

[stoic island]

@fossil halo meh, 32gb per stick is hard

[muted patio]

Don't be scared, it's EZPZ

[brittle tinsel]

plus I have a gpu on hand, so until 3080 is in stock I will still be able to use the pc

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel it'll be alright, there's always returns and RMAs to save your rear even if something happens

[brittle tinsel]

just with 1060 3gb

[stoic island]

And also, @brittle tinsel, bios flash is not necessary for 3900x on a b550 board

[muted patio]

It is for 5000 series

[brittle tinsel]

I know but vintage was saying get 5900x and I said that

[muted patio]

Which should be a consideration for modeling/rendering

[stoic island]

Why was the list 3900x :(

[muted patio]

IMO, $500 for 3900x is meh

[stoic island]

It is

[rancid lodge]

how far could I push a 5900x with the tuf gaming x570 pro in theory

[muted patio]

If going high end, go 5800/5900x

[rancid lodge]

assuming I get decent silicon

[stoic island]

@rancid lodge all the way, probably

[brittle tinsel]

because this is my saved list that I am already planning on building, after posting he said go with 5900x

[stoic island]

Just check hwbot

[rancid lodge]

yeah I won't go that far but

[brittle tinsel]

then I said bios flash scared me

[rancid lodge]

since I literally have 0 understanding of overclocking

but

[brittle tinsel]

plus I dont think i have a usb on hand for a bios flash

[rancid lodge]

there's a bios flash button on the tuf gaming x570 pro

[muted patio]

Get a USB drive for like $5

[rancid lodge]

no idea

how that works

but ig once I actually get a 5900x I'll find out

[muted patio]

Put BIOS file on USB

Put power to Mobo, insert USB, push button and wait

That simple

[rancid lodge]

Niceeeee

[brittle tinsel]

where do you get bios file, mobo manufacture or cpu manufacture

[rancid lodge]

bios would be mobo

you're updating the bios to work with the CPU

[muted patio]

mobo manufacturers website

Under the Support tab

[brittle tinsel]

say I didnt go with a 5900x and only got 3900x, would a 3900x and 3080 be able to handle warzone and cold war 144hz 1080p preferably high settings?

[muted patio]

They would but

[rancid lodge]

probably yeah

[muted patio]

3900x is meh

For your other tasks

Like, it's a 20% performance inprovement in the 5900x

for the same cost

[rancid lodge]

yeah best to try 5900x

[brittle tinsel]

I know but I havent seen a single 5900x in stock at all this month except for one that sold out fast af on newegg last night

[rancid lodge]

Every Thursday

[muted patio]

Oh, AMD.com had some yesterday

[rancid lodge]

AMD direct

[muted patio]

Yeah

[desert gulch]

Bruh my build can

Ultra settings locked at 144

[muted patio]

Yeah but for the other things, 3900x for $500 is an oof

[rancid lodge]

BB drops Tuesdays but they dropped yesterday, most likely because of the 3060 release

[brittle tinsel]

I dont keep up with amd gpus so i dont know what a 5700xt is equal to on nvidia side

[muted patio]

2070 super

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[brittle tinsel]

so a 3080 would be way better?

[desert gulch]

So 3060ti a bit better

Yeah

[rancid lodge]

3080 would go brrrrr

[desert gulch]

Like 2x almost

[rancid lodge]

mhm

[brittle tinsel]

ok, so maybe that will leave a little fps room for streaming

[desert gulch]

Even a 3070 could prolly do all that tbh

Stream and play games

[rancid lodge]

mhm a 3070 could handle streaming fine

[brittle tinsel]

well i would like to keep this one close to the best as possible because im not the one to upgrade with every single new part

ive been using i5 3570 and 1060 3gb for nearly 4 years now

and after a few 12 hour streams my cpu cant handle anything anymore

[rancid lodge]

yeah I mean if you're upgrading from a 1060 maybe try a 3060ti or 3070

[brittle tinsel]

yeah, well like i said, once i get ahold of the cpu and other parts, ill just use the 1060 until I get hold of a gpu

[rancid lodge]

mhm

I'm upgrading everything but my GPU rn

waiting till the stock improves because just trying to get my 5900x is already proving to be painful

three drops yesterday and I got to every single one super fast but first an AMD employee did a little trolling and banned me right before stuff dropped, then BB said no to shipping to my area, then newegg last night didn't cart at all

the suffering is real

[muted patio]

I told you refreshing that fast would get you canned

[rancid lodge]

yes, yes you did

[brittle tinsel]

wait amd bans you for refreshing?

tf

[rancid lodge]

no I was using a webscraper

shoulda turned it off since they release on such a similar schedule each week

[brittle tinsel]

so if i just use chrome and F5 i wont get banned?

[rancid lodge]

prob not

[muted patio]

You can if you're spamming it

It's happened

[rancid lodge]

well yeah but only if you go real fast

just refresh every four-five seconds or so

[brittle tinsel]

I mean my pc takes like 3 seconds to refresh a web page so shouldnt be that bad

[rancid lodge]

yeah

I mean I had my webscraper sending requests every 3 seconds so

[brittle tinsel]

amd has 5800x in stock currently

[rancid lodge]

that's there from yesterday

[brittle tinsel]

wonder how much worse it is from a r9 5900x

[muted patio]

Even that would be better than 3900x

[rancid lodge]

yeah but it's at a weird price point

[muted patio]

It is

[brittle tinsel]

its $20 cheaper than a 3900x but its r7 not r9

[rancid lodge]

it's smack dab inbetween the cheaper 6 core 300$, and the 12 core 550$

[stoic island]

Passmark time:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-3900X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-5900X/3493vs3869vs3870

@muted patio I wouldn't say 5800x is better than 3900x for multithread tasks :P

[muted patio]

For multi core, yeah but gaming the 5800x will be faster.

[stoic island]

Pretty sure one of the requirements was video editing?

[muted patio]

Also gaming and streaming

[stoic island]

this laptop needs to stop being bad and let me scroll up in messages....

[rancid lodge]

again it is 8 cores versus 12 so

[brittle tinsel]

gaming and streaming, script compiling, video editing, and 3D modeling

[rancid lodge]

yeah so more cores

[stoic island]

How would you rank those in terms of priority?

[brittle tinsel]

just as listed

[stoic island]

Gotcha, 5800x might make a bit more sense, but it's a bit of trading off

[muted patio]

It is

5900x ideal

[brittle tinsel]

well actually video editing on the end, so
gaming streaming, scripting and modeling

[muted patio]

Compared to 3900x, another $50 is worth it

[brittle tinsel]

then video editing

[rancid lodge]

yeah it really is

5600x just popped up for under MSRP on amazon, nice

amazon is cleaning the 5600x

they've dropped like four times in the past three hours

[brittle tinsel]

so when it comes to 5900x who isnt gonna charge a ton on shipping, amd or newegg

[rancid lodge]

I know it's like 6 USD on newegg

idk about AMD

[brittle tinsel]

a whole 6 dollars???

[rancid lodge]

generally though, you need to get it from wherever you can

[brittle tinsel]

lol

[rancid lodge]

yeah

so yeah you'll probably need to pull up a 5000 series stock stream

[rose torrent]

Is anyone here good at cable management?

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[hollow grail]

sara i saw the build u did

[wanton cliff]

That was him not me

[hollow grail]

mhm

[wanton cliff]

He left the server

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

Wait no he didn’t

@indigo forum

[brittle tinsel]

how do I check if this board is 5900x compatible again? MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK

[little osprey]

Got a laptop

[rose torrent]

It is I used my 5900X in there

[muted patio]

It's compatible but will need a BIOS update

[rose torrent]

Okay so

[wanton cliff]

Any 400 or 500 series board on AM4 will be compatible

[rose torrent]

If I put a GPU in the 3rd x16(x4) slot on the dark hero, how likely is they crushing of the cables underneath going to cause problems later?

It’s crushing the headers

[muted patio]

uh, that's not good

Might break them over time, the wires

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8pgMgt mk how does this look? i was trying to spend under $1500 but like :/

[rose torrent]

If I move it to the 2nd slot the 3080 memory junction goes up to 110C in games

[rancid lodge]

yikes

[little osprey]

@flint sapphire nice. You stole my monitor and laptop pic

Very nice THIEF

[stoic island]

I almost always get free Newegg shipping for some reason...?

[little osprey]

@stoic island is there a report thingie for people stealing other people pics?

[rancid lodge]

Also, got a basic question, is the difference between boosting and overclocking a CPU is just automated versus manual?

[stoic island]

no

[wanton cliff]

Gigabyte is censoring reviews btw. I did a test, made 3 separate reviews of Gigabyte cooling on 3 separate accounts, and none of them are there now. Theyve been deleted. Thats why you cant find anything about their crappy cooling.

[muted patio]

WDYM

DM

[wanton cliff]

for the Vision OC 3070

[stoic island]

Boosting also has a cap @rancid lodge

[rancid lodge]

oh so there's just a cap they build into it?

[stoic island]

Boosting caps itself, and only boosts as proportional to the temp

@rancid lodge that's why you have "max boost frequency" on CPUs

[rancid lodge]

gotcha

[sharp tundra]

There's more places to post bad reviews other than the forums of a company.

[stoic island]

Forums are wack

other places nice

like tpu tom's anandtech

[rancid lodge]

so with an overclock you could go beyond the max boost clock? @stoic island

[wanton cliff]

it was on Newegg. A friend of mine (who got a gigabyte card from Amazon) did the same thing at my request, for the same product. It's Giga's fault, and they are censoring it to avoid bad press.

[sharp tundra]

If Gigabyte wanted to avoid bad press, they would just fix the cards

[wanton cliff]

but that would cost too many pennies

[sharp tundra]

Why go through all the trouble of deleting all these comments bad talking a product? Just because they don't wanna fix it?

[wanton cliff]

because it costs less and is easier to do

giga is a terrible manufacturer

make no mistake

[sharp tundra]

Less than half a penny of thermal pads?

[wanton cliff]

yep

[sharp tundra]

I mean let's be honest, a lot of companies are pieces of crap, but they'll still go to some extent to secure that their products remain a somewhat good reputation.

[wanton cliff]

thats false

its easier to censor bad reviews than it is to fix a product

thats just business

plain and simple

[sharp tundra]

What about you tube videos?

[wanton cliff]

im sure reviewers are getting there

[sharp tundra]

Can't just delete those because you as a company doesn't agree with the review

[wanton cliff]

most tech reviewers review the 3070, not every specific 3070

just whatever they have on hand

usually FE or EVGA

[wanton cliff]

also yes they can lol

its been done time and again by just about every company

they have that right

[flint sapphire]

what even?

[wanton cliff]

its their site, their TOS

they control what is being said

[sharp tundra]

So in their terms of service it says, "No bad or slanderous reviews shall be made about Gigabyte products on the social media platform of YouTube"

That sounds like a company would be taking away the creators righta

Which they have too

[wanton cliff]

in their TOS, it says that they have the right to remove comments about them on their site if they want to

whether that be giga's site or their seller pages on wegg or amazon

[sharp tundra]

But not youtube, cause youtube is much more difficult than just saying, "Hey, I don't like their video, take it down"

[wanton cliff]

again, most people dont get to Nvidia because its usually assumed that their product is going to be bad

[sharp tundra]

Even if you are a multi billion dollar company

[wanton cliff]

so they are some of the last to be gotten to

GN will do a review eventually

you will see

[sharp tundra]

But anyways, I'm not saying the vision OC doesn't have a cooling problem, I just don't think it's worth it scensoring all these bad reviews because they don't want to fix it.

[wanton cliff]

youd be wrong

[sharp tundra]

I won't have to worry about that problem anyways cause I'm not getting a vision OC, nor am I getting one with a cooler on it.

[gaunt zinc]

Oh man... the stories I can tell about reviews lol

[sharp tundra]

Big man showed up, lol

[stoic island]

Well, reviews from random people can be very interesting

[little osprey]

@flint sapphire sorry, my discord is glitching

Some of your photos swapped to mine

My bad

[gaunt zinc]

Lol well the other half of my job is moderating Newegg's Reviews and Q&As.

[desert gulch]

Lol

[flint sapphire]

[desert gulch]

And the other half is moderating us?

[stoic island]

Great example was when the MSI B550m Pro-Vdh wifi had 1 eggies on Wegg, and the problems they ran into were 99% user error.

[desert gulch]

Lol

[stoic island]

Like trying to stuff a 3400g onto a b550 board

no support :P

[desert gulch]

Lol

Then they gotta blame wegg

[sharp tundra]

Someone was doing that last night

[desert gulch]

Cause it's def wegs fault

[sharp tundra]

Wanted to at least

[stoic island]

lol

@sharp tundra oh well, that was half AMD not being clear, but one look at support sheet told you what you needed

[sharp tundra]

Yeah, I told him to just get a 3600 and wait for the 3060 like he wanted

[indigo forum]

I WAS SUMMONED?

[stoic island]

maybe

[desert gulch]

maybe

[flint sapphire]

being called a thief while trying to build a castle in valheim

[desert gulch]

oof

[remote kelp]

so like i think i figured out why my card was going derpy

sent it for rma, they tested it, said nothing was wrong, i got it back today and i put it back into the pc and

im 99% sure this didnt happen the first time i put the card in but i heard both pcie cables clicking when i put them in

so basically my noodle arms were incapable of properly inserting pcie cables into the gpu the first time round

[desert gulch]

lol

it works now?

[remote kelp]

so far so good

[desert gulch]

nice

[remote kelp]

no random errors

no "imma crash u the moment u restart"

[desert gulch]

hmm nice

[remote kelp]

will observe for a few days

[desert gulch]

the latch clicked in right?

on pcie slot?

[remote kelp]

yeah 100% sure

both clicked in

[desert gulch]

good

[remote kelp]

and im like 90% sure they didnt the first time i put it

i think i was just like

"how hard do i need to push i dont wanna accidentally break the card"

but then the latch didnt click = power issues on 850w cuz loose cable

headdesk

[desert gulch]

mmmm

[stoic island]

@remote kelp tried furmark yet?

[remote kelp]

not yet, will give it a try

i've been trying heaven

but apparently that's like 9 years old

also i realised i was running heaven without actually doing the benchmark process and it was crashing despite not actually benchmarking

and now it can get through it perfectly

[inland parrot]

Any good dust cleaners for pc and keyboards

[sharp tundra]

Bruh moment

[uncut pelican]

Yeah its called canned air

[wanton cliff]

DataVac

[sage crown]

use a vacuum

[inland parrot]

Can i use a leaf blower

[sage crown]

ya

[wanton cliff]

theoretically

yes

but

[sage crown]

also you can use your car exhaust

[wanton cliff]

the air pressure would be way too high and you would likely damage a part

or the whole system

[sage crown]

will these parts not kill them self in the process of me gaming in ultra settings pls tell me https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GreedyOtter/saved/8N3mD3

[stoic island]

lol what

@sage crown btw, any reason for 10900k over 10850k?

[sage crown]

dont know

just want it you know but pls tell me more tho cause im new

what are the difference between 10900k and a 10850k

[winged lion]

Pretty sure nothing

[stoic island]

could go 10850k, it's slightly lower bin and boost clock, otherwise practically the same CPU

[desert gulch]

price

[winged lion]

^^

[stoic island]

and 50$+ cheaper

[sage crown]

just price really then i might looking into it then

[stoic island]

I think it's 380$ microcenter, but amazon it's 400$
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DHRG2X9

[desert gulch]

i think there is a 10850k and 490 combo

for like 500

[sage crown]

thank god i live by a micro center then

[winged lion]

Same

[desert gulch]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4224641

[winged lion]

Although my micro center is like empty

[sage crown]

lol same

[little osprey]

or wait a month for 11th gen cpus 🤔

thats what i do lol

[wanton cliff]

hmmmm

11th gen right around corner

still on 14nm afaik so it wont be short of CPUs to sell

since no one else uses 14nm

[inland parrot]

Would this work too

[little osprey]

maybe thats why intel have no any stock issues lol

[wanton cliff]

thats exactly why

[little osprey]

i dont think theres much difference between 14nm or 7nm or something

cpu is cpu xd

[wanton cliff]

there is when only 1 company is using 14nm and everyone else is using 7nm

[small osprey]

lmao

nm is just how many transistors can i cram into this cpu

[little osprey]

and yeah 7nm is not 2x better than 14 nm

just 10% or something

[wanton cliff]

7nm is less hot because of it tho

[little osprey]

as it shown it dont mean 7nm cpu have 2x much transistors

[little osprey]

just lil bit much

[potent portal]

The process refers to the space between the transistors, nothing to do with the transistors themselves.
I thought Intel was doing 11th gen on 10nm? I know they said "10nm ported to our 14nm process" but who knows what that really means

[ebon star]

Hello everyone, I have a friend who is currently building a PC and has a budget of $1200 but so far they have a AMD ryzen 5 3600, Kraken Z73 luqid cooler, ASUS tuff X570-plus, 16gb of Crucial ballistix DDR4, 2tb segate barracuda, EVGA gforce GTX 1650 4gb GPU, and for power a 650W seasonic. Is this a good build?

[wanton cliff]

link a pcpartpicker version of it

[little osprey]

eww

r5 3600 with x570 and 1650

[muted patio]

Which seasonic?

[potent portal]

I'm assuming that's to leave an upgrade path to 5000 series and they can't get a better gpu

[little osprey]

psu master fallen here xd

maybe but as a build its eww xd

[ebon star]

they just sent me a screen shot and asked for any change of advice

[wanton cliff]

DM the screenshot

[mental steeple]

its all nand

[potent portal]

Personally I'd go for x470 over x570, the only real advantage of pcie 4.0 isn't worth the extra problems and cost

[sly niche]

What is better: amd ryzen 5 3600 or intel core i7?

[potent portal]

Which i7? There's like 30

[sly niche]

Dunno

Wait

Lemme search

[little osprey]

even i5 10400 is better than r5 3600 lol

and much cheaper xd

[potent portal]

But if it's an i7 6700 there's a major difference

[sly niche]

I like more amd

I find it better

I7 9700F

Thats the intel

[potent portal]

9700f is better, not by much but it is

[sly niche]

The mother-board is compatabile just with amd, what do you reccomand?

[potent portal]

Ryzen 5600X is king of gaming right now

[sly niche]

LoL

Ryzen 5600X goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[wanton cliff]

@ebon star 's list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mmat/saved/

i see problems already

[potent portal]

That kraken is entirely unnecessary

[ebon star]

I know but they want it badly so :/

[hollow grail]

REEEEEEEEgate

[wanton cliff]

why not EK or Arctic

[hollow grail]

also its the only drive

[severe axle]

also bad psu

[wanton cliff]

omg

it is

lol

[little osprey]

mobo is overkill for cpu

[wanton cliff]

no SSD

[potent portal]

A cheap 240mm cooler will more than handle that chip, even overclocked to the max

[wanton cliff]

alright imma remake this list

gimme a minute

stop

you gonna get banned

[severe axle]

no one will subscribe

[hollow grail]

@autumn wolf

ban youtube spammer

[little osprey]

nice emoji xd

[hollow grail]

thanks

i birthed it myself

[ebon star]

yeah they have a limit of $1200 and so far imma tell them to change the SDD,mobo, HDD to SDD and PowerSupply

[wanton cliff]

could I fit a P31 in a $1200 budget?

[hollow grail]

depends what the rest of the parts are

[potent portal]

The kraken is seriously overpriced, you can knock $100 off and get a 240mm of he really wants liquid cooling

[hollow grail]

you can technically fit like 8 p31 in a $1200 budget

[severe axle]

tell them if you don't buy that aio you could get more fps by getting a better gpu

[wanton cliff]

hence "a"

as in one

[muted patio]

Kraken just has lcd display on pump

[ebon star]

yeah thats what they want and the case

[little osprey]

and this build need 3060 at least

[wanton cliff]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kPHmvf $78 overbudget but I can, of course, bring it down

[hollow grail]

tell them what they want is wrong

or just have them join because helping through another person is super annoying

[ebon star]

:() bruh lol

[wanton cliff]

agreed

H510 is an oven

[ebon star]

oh sheeesh is it actually... damn

[wanton cliff]

and NZXT krakens are overpriced

[potent portal]

Oh what, I missed that one. H510 is garbage for cooling.

[hollow grail]

u can get the h510 experience by putting a blanket over a normal case

[little osprey]

lol

[ebon star]

looool

[wanton cliff]

I did that once because my friend didnt want to look at all the lights coming off my pc while he was sleeping

[little osprey]

you can buy h510 if you living in canada 😄

[hollow grail]

make your pc think its night time

[wanton cliff]

it got HOT

[hollow grail]

tell your friend to sleep somewhere else

[little osprey]

omg this emoji is so cool

[ebon star]

damn imma send them the link and see how mad theyll get

[little osprey]

can you send me png lol

[potent portal]

"but the rgb makes it faster!"

[hollow grail]

http://sara.lgbt/

[wanton cliff]

DAMN YOU KALE

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

DOMAIN STEALING KALE

[hollow grail]

[little osprey]

thankssss

[potent portal]

One of these days someone will take you seriously lili

[little osprey]

more rgb = more fps xd

[hollow grail]

wdym lol

[wanton cliff]

do Crosshair mobos have flashback buttons?

[muted patio]

I think so

[potent portal]

Between your troll links and Linux commands that wipe the drive? It's hard to take you seriously sometimes

[hollow grail]

thats not a troll link

[wanton cliff]

heh

[hollow grail]

its the png he asked for

[wanton cliff]

thats not a troll link, thats a domain she stole from me

[hollow grail]

have u gone there

i bought it fair and square

get free marketed

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

kalė

[hollow grail]

[potent portal]

It's a troll to sara every time you link it though lol

[wanton cliff]

a domain stealing [MULTIPLE LITHUANIAN EXPLETIVES] is what she is

[hollow grail]

no i am just super based and pogpilled

[hollow grail]

lmk how it goes

[wanton cliff]

pogpilled

thats a new one

[muted patio]

Now children.....

[hollow grail]

whats up old man

[little osprey]

[little osprey]

Can anybody help me, I’m experiencing something that has never happened to me before

Idk if it’s good bad or normal

[vagrant olive]

whats happening

[little osprey]

So I haven’t used my pc in a few days, I plugged it in and plugged my dp cable to the gpu, my finger touched the metal part and started tingling(electricity) so I naturally unplugged it, felt it again and it was fine. Then thinking the issue was just my pc I felt the bottom of my monitor for the dp port to feel it out and what do you know I feel the electricity again

I’ve never had a issue like this and I’m using a surge protector that I always use

Idk if there’s too much power or something but I don’t want anything exploding when I plug it in

[pliant lake]

it wont explode

[little osprey]

Well I was exaggerating I don’t think it will but I don’t want anything to break

Because I’ve never felt this before

[pliant lake]

What type of flooring do you have?

[little osprey]

Now I know it’s the whole back of my pc

No flooring rn

My house is under construction

But I just tried to take off my side panel and it got me way worse than the other ports

[muted patio]

You said house under construction?

[pliant lake]

it sounds like a live wire is touching the ground

[little osprey]

Only floors right now but yea

[muted patio]

Very possible the ground for the electrical panel is disconnected

Or something is spoop

[pliant lake]

if ground is disconnected it isnt live

[prime plover]

Just assembled my first pc. Now to see if I can install windows.

[muted patio]

I know that's what neutral is for

but if a neutral or ground wire is disconnected somewhere, might be breaking the circuit

[pliant lake]

if his case is electrocuting him, somewhere along the chain a live wire is touching ground

[strong knoll]

Anyone have the viper ultimate wireless if so how does if feel???

[muted patio]

If a live wire were touching ground, the breaker would pop

There's a missing ground or neutral somewhere

[muted patio]

Remove the surge protector from the equation and try again

[little osprey]

Yea I’m doing that rn, and if it’s still a problem I’m gonna test other outlets

All tho if I remove the surge protector couldn’t that damage my pc

If there’s a problem with electricity

[muted patio]

No

Surge protector literally filters surges, nothing more or less

If you want REAL protection, you'd need a UPS

[pliant lake]

real protection from a power outage

[hollow grail]

ups good

[haughty furnace]

Hey guys, which brand that make the best budget m.2 nvme?

[hollow grail]

dont ask for brands ever

[wanton cliff]

Samsung

[brittle tinsel]

why are stream decks nearly $500 right now? they used to be $250

or less

[wanton cliff]

go to best buy and get one

[brittle tinsel]

online or walk in?

[wanton cliff]

also $150 for elgato stream deck

BB walk in or online, probably

straight from their website

https://www.elgato.com/en/gaming/stream-deck

[brittle tinsel]

bb has none available within 250 miles and dont have the xl online apparently

[wanton cliff]

walmart?

gamestop?

[brittle tinsel]

and elgato website has been out of stock for a while

[wanton cliff]

amazon?

wegg?

[brittle tinsel]

ill check

amazon is what lists em for 500-600

[wanton cliff]

Micro Center?

[worn wave]

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-Deck-Controller-customizable/dp/B06XKNZT1P/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Stream+Deck&qid=1614378263&sr=8-1

[wanton cliff]

thats crappy resellers

[wanton cliff]

^^^^^

[worn wave]

Actually in stock on Newegg

[brittle tinsel]

no micro center nearby, only about 400 miles north of me

[wanton cliff]

rip

[worn wave]

https://www.newegg.com/elgato-stream-deck/p/N82E16815131024?Description=Elgato Stream Deck&cm_re=Elgato_Stream Deck-_-15-131-024-_-Product&quicklink=true

In stock and MSRP

[wanton cliff]

I got one only 50 miles away

[wanton cliff]

a whopping dollar off!

[brittle tinsel]

nowhere near msrp

and this is neweggs website

[worn wave]

I sent a link

[brittle tinsel]

wait why does this ship from china? I though newegg had stores in america

[worn wave]

Do you need the XL?

[brittle tinsel]

yes

[worn wave]

Why

[wanton cliff]

^

[brittle tinsel]

I have a lot of uses for one but I am currently using my numpad, and F keys for the ones that allow it

I cant use any of these keys for launching programs

[wanton cliff]

15 keys should be enough, no?

[worn wave]

Just run two normal Stream decks

[wanton cliff]

^

get a USB hub if necessary

[brittle tinsel]

than that would cost more than just buying a 32 key, and only be 30 in total

[cerulean trellis]

Kf means that it overclocks but it doesn't have intergrated graphics

[brittle tinsel]

that wouldnt make sense to do

[worn wave]

Why do you need 32 keys lmao

[wanton cliff]

no one needs 32 keys

[worn wave]

At that point buy a keyboard that can program all keys

[cerulean trellis]

will the TCL 50S425 fit with this mount?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Motion-TV-Wall-Mount-for-Samsung-Vizio-Sharp-LG-TCL-40-42-47-50-55/183548559351?hash=item2abc58bff7:g:XIcAAOSw30JfXuJ3

[gusty abyss]

Or make use of folders on one

[worn wave]

They do have folders

One button can be multiple things

[brittle tinsel]

can you lay a folder inside a folder?

[worn wave]

lmao

[gusty abyss]

I think so lol

[worn wave]

I highly doubt you need that many keys, just buy a keyboard that can reprogram each key

[cerulean trellis]

honestly lol

[brittle tinsel]

but you cant visualize the diff keys like stream decks

[little osprey]

Turns out it was the surge protector it had a surge, now I’m using a big 600watt box that acts like a. Surge protector and no more electricity

[muted patio]

nice! You found it

[vivid pivot]

How do I fix a DRAM problem please ping me

[muted patio]

if it's truly a DRAM problem, you replace your ram

[muted patio]

Replace your ram. have you run Memtest86 yet?

[cerulean trellis]

would the TCL 50S425 fit with this mount?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Motion-TV-Wall-Mount-for-Samsung-Vizio-Sharp-LG-TCL-40-42-47-50-55/183548559351?hash=item2abc58bff7:g:XIcAAOSw30JfXuJ3

[vivid pivot]

My pc hasn’t even show any display

[muted patio]

How do you know it's a DRAM problem then

[stoic island]

Just no post?

[muted patio]

dram LIGHT?

[vivid pivot]

Yes

[muted patio]

CPu and motherboard?

[vivid pivot]

Just motherboard

[muted patio]

No, what CPU and what motherboard?

[vivid pivot]

Ryzen 5 3600 msi tomahawk b450

[worn wave]

Does it support the weight of that TV?

Does the TV have the correct VESA hole pattern?

[muted patio]

Ram is in slots A2 and B2?

[vivid pivot]

I don’t think so

[cerulean trellis]

@worn wave It supports up to 100lbs which is enough but I dont know what you mean by vesa hole pattern

[worn wave]

Look up the TV specs

[vivid pivot]

Also I’m very new to building PCs

[worn wave]

We aint google, people here most likely dont know the specs or support for your specific model of TV

[cerulean trellis]

Yeah ik i was just wondering if it fit

[muted patio]

It needs to be in A2 and B2

Try that

[cerulean trellis]

ok one sec

[vivid pivot]

The that the 2nd and 4th from the cpu

[muted patio]

heck the labeling on your board

But most likely yes

[vivid pivot]

The dram light is still on

[muted patio]

Try a CMOS reset, Unplug from wall, remove the battery for 1 minute, put battery back in, plug back into wall, and start it up

[vivid pivot]

Ok

The light is still on

@muted patio

[muted patio]

Try just one stick in A2

[quasi laurel]

Can someone help me

??

With my pc

[fossil halo]

whats wrong

[quasi laurel]

I just flashed my bios and nothing is happening

The lights for the bios button stored

Stopped

[muted patio]

What board?

[quasi laurel]

But now what do I do

Msi X570 ace

[muted patio]

Is this Flashback without a CPU? Or from within the BIOS itself?

[quasi laurel]

Its with the cpu

[muted patio]

Did you use the Flashback button?

[quasi laurel]

Ye

On the mobo