#building-and-recc-chat

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wanton cliff
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both are on same socket

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mobo upgrade not needed

sharp tundra
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Maybe

dawn cosmos
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Yeah. Because I just upgraded my graphics and the mobo I mentioned above is only compatible with it. The ryzen is what is being recommended now for my processor instead of the 10600.

sharp tundra
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show me your pcpp list

dawn cosmos
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And I can’t jump to a newer model because I’d have to get a new cooling fan and at that point it would be cheaper to just get an entirely new build from scratch.

dawn cosmos
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I used a website called mypcbuilder or something. It was recommended via this disc

wanton cliff
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gronsk

dawn cosmos
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Let me punch in all the components

sharp tundra
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Use PC Part Picker

stoic island
dawn cosmos
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Yeah that’s the one

stoic island
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Pcpp = pc part picker

gusty abyss
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what mobo do you have already

stoic island
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Whole list will be good

potent portal
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What a noob move I did. I forgot my top radiator slightly hangs over my RAM slots and now my new memory doesn't fit 🤦‍♂️

stoic island
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@potent portal did you buy Corsair rgb sticks

stoic island
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:p

dawn cosmos
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And it’s telling me to use ryzen 5 3600/prime X750

stoic island
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Who is?

sharp tundra
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the new ram

wanton cliff
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pcpp's algorithm for that sucks

gusty abyss
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what motherboard do you have already

potent portal
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No XPG rgb sticks, slightly higher profile than my old ripjaws

dawn cosmos
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I actually got to dip so I’ll have to send my pcpp when I get back

stoic island
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Pcpp has an algorithm?

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What

potent portal
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Time to move my rad to the front

wanton cliff
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try it

stoic island
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Oh that thing

gusty abyss
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parametric

dawn cosmos
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Yes that’s what I am using

stoic island
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That thing just gives you cheapest options iirc

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Lol

wanton cliff
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Prime X570 is cheapest? lol

stoic island
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Parametric is nice for price checking

dawn cosmos
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What happens if you don’t get compatible parts

wanton cliff
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it wont give you incompatible ones

stoic island
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Just give us the list :p

dawn cosmos
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No the ryzen 3600 is cheapest lul. The prime is what they’re telling me to upgrade to

gusty abyss
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can't recommend upgrade path without knowing what you already have

dawn cosmos
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Lol okay I will get the list when I get back.

sharp tundra
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please

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-_-

potent portal
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Pcpp still thinks B450 and X470 can't support the new cpu line

wanton cliff
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rip

sharp tundra
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just send now, its copy and paste

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simple

dawn cosmos
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For sure, I would love help. Gotta dip out for a few right now. 🥶

stoic island
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Side note, 1200+w PSUs are wack

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@potent portal and they can't out of box :p

wanton cliff
potent portal
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Well the B550 don't support out of the box either lol

stoic island
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It's the same thing with b450 and Zen 3, except this time they're not just technically correct, I don't think any b450 boards ship with Zen 3 bios

sharp tundra
hollow grail
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liar

stoic island
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Look at pricing

potent portal
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Right but the agesa updates released earlier this month added support

potent portal
stoic island
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@sharp tundra hx1200i says 310$, but you can't buy from Corsair for 310$, soooooo

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Wack

hollow grail
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for like $120

stoic island
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There's an interesting xpg 4000c16 kit iirc

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It was like 130$

hollow grail
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c19 i think

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i know the kit tho

potent portal
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$110 with Amazon coupon

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I'll be running it at 4000 with tightened timings

sharp tundra
stoic island
cursive wharf
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pcpp filter is nice for mixing mATX/ATX mobos with mATX/ATX only cases when the mobos go out of stock

stoic island
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@sharp tundra if you can find it at all that is, other than the wack 600$ amazon listing

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Huh

sharp tundra
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i dont use amazon to find my pc parts anymore

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nothing but scalpers on there

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$2400 MOBO

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no way

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3.5x msrp

stoic island
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I just use pcpp parametric selection for my pricing lists

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I need to make more of em tho

sharp tundra
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not worth it

potent portal
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Amazon has garbage searches for pc parts anyway, I search for 2TB and there's 320GB drives in the list

stoic island
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Lol

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Yea their search and filters suck

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Wegg filters are amazing

cursive wharf
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literally never use their search, use googles

hollow grail
stoic island
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@hollow grail c14

sharp tundra
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i only use amazon anymore for peripherals and other stuff

stoic island
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Has to be b die

cursive wharf
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I get very nice results just using google and clicking on Amazon links

sharp tundra
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or if they actually show msrp price on pc parts

potent portal
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Yeah Google ironically searches Amazon better than Amazon does

stoic island
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3600c14 cl timing wise is better than 4000c16, depending on the kit the actual first word read should be better too

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@cursive wharf I use pcpp for finding amazon items >:D

potent portal
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Pcpp doesn't have everything indexed though

stoic island
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Dats the joke

stoic island
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Too lazy to calculate or check, probably not

cursive wharf
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at this point you should be using other timings to check

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cl isnt everything

stoic island
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Yes, use actual first word read

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But mobile is hard for that

sharp tundra
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7.5ns i think on that 4000cl15

stoic island
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No

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That's fake first word read

hollow grail
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gonna use 4133 cl19 and just tell people 4133mhz and nothing else

stoic island
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:p

sharp tundra
cursive wharf
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get the cheapest ram you can find, run at like 4000c25 or smth

stoic island
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Found correct formula again
(tRCD + tCL + BL) / (mhz/2000)

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@sharp tundra that's literally like tCL/(mhz/2000)

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All it tells you is cl latency

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So no, it's not actually first word read

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:D

potent portal
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The kit I got has a xmp profile for 4000c18 so I'll tighten the timings and it'll be fine

sharp tundra
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so the timings for this 4000cl15 is 15-16-16-36

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what can you tell me from that

potent portal
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Probably b-die

stoic island
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Making me do math smh

cursive wharf
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cuz AMD

stoic island
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Laptop won't connect to the internet so I might have to pull our calculator

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@cursive wharf hm, I'm guessing use the larger latency, which is usually trcdrd iirc

cursive wharf
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seems reasonable

stoic island
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"This entire sequence of events takes tRCD + tCL + BL clock cycles. tRCD = ACT to internal read or write delay time"

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That's from where I pulled the first word read formula from

stoic island
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@hollow grail dell laptop >:D

hollow grail
stoic island
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Anyways looks like it's 17.5ns for 4000c15 kit, 17.77ns for 3600c14 kit

hollow grail
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75hz

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for 200

marsh kiln
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Just wondering because I found someone selling the same one for 150

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And I don't have a monitor

hollow grail
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for 150 its still bad

stoic island
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@marsh kiln good 1080p144hz panels are ~190$, usually 144hz starts at ~150$ so

stoic island
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Ew

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@hollow grail 27in 1080p

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Why

hollow grail
stoic island
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Fine panel

stoic island
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Dell panel is tn rho

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Sad

hollow grail
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honestly my main display is tn and it looks great

gusty pasture
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hi

hollow grail
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i swear to god if you ask about your stupid fans

gusty pasture
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no?

hollow grail
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ok good lmfao

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then what was your question

hollow grail
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oh nice

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vibin

gusty pasture
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yep

fossil halo
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@little osprey

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isnt 24in kinda small tbh

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well i mean considering its a second one that makes sense

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but like do you have 2 24ins?

halcyon swallow
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what is a good cheap mobo for this cpu

little osprey
stoic island
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@halcyon swallow b560 pro4, 100$ on wegg last I checked

halcyon swallow
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yeooo

little osprey
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B560? That's exists?

halcyon swallow
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got tha link?

fossil halo
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oh lmao

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idk im j used to a 27in

little osprey
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Sent a pic

fossil halo
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idk why i feel like its such a big difference bc its not

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yea

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i saw

little osprey
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👍

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Well I have 48", kinda, for $300

stoic island
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I'll go grab a link

halcyon swallow
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aightly

stoic island
little osprey
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If I make my game run across both at the same time that's 48" and 3840x2160 at 144fps

stoic island
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Might be cheaper b560 boards that released recently, but pro4 was the cheapest when I first looked

halcyon swallow
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ooo

fossil halo
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i have a 27 and a 24

little osprey
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I used to have a 28" 4k and a 24" 1080p

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Sold the 4k today and then bought the second 1080p

halcyon swallow
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Hopefully they accept PayPal 😅

marsh kiln
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What should a used 1080ti go for?

fossil halo
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~400

marsh kiln
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What about a light used of of these?

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@stoic island what do you think?

cursive wharf
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if you're buying, like $300, if you're selling then like $350 - $450

halcyon swallow
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Will this support the i5 10400f ?

marsh kiln
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Yes

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@halcyon swallow neweggs web site says it is

median grotto
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me here with my 1070 and 6600k Cringe

marsh kiln
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@median grotto don't worry I don't even have a computer really compatible with a gpu x16 but I am working of buying a 1080ti

halcyon swallow
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Aaaa! Okie thankie

wanton cliff
marsh kiln
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Happy to help

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Who's a lucky duck

wanton cliff
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how old is your computer lol

median grotto
wanton cliff
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got it from shuffle

marsh kiln
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Sara hang on

gusty pasture
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oof

marsh kiln
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Ok I have one or two but the motherboard more than likely could not handle it

wanton cliff
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you likely have one x16 slot and one x8 slot in x16 size

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what board is it?

marsh kiln
gusty pasture
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wht r u tring 2 do?

wanton cliff
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some MSI or Gigabyte board from a while ago?

marsh kiln
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I mean I have this as well

gusty pasture
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asus mobo

wanton cliff
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it looks like its steel reinforced

gusty pasture
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whts happeningh?

marsh kiln
wanton cliff
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i find it hard to believe a mobo with a steel reinforced PCIe slot cant handle x16 speeds

gusty pasture
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r u installign a gpu?

wanton cliff
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stfu awesomeka

marsh kiln
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Think the 2nd one can handle it?

wanton cliff
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yeah

wanton cliff
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it has an x16 slot, no?

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if it has an x16 slot or a slot in x16 size, it means it can fit a GPU

gusty pasture
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@wanton cliff just wondering 😢

wanton cliff
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actual clearance in that case is a different issue

marsh kiln
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The cpu had a thin plastic over it for the cpu cooler

gusty abyss
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the dark blue slot is pcie2.0 x16

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light blue slots are pcie

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gray is pci

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lol

marsh kiln
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Yea but the cpu would be more than a bottle neck for a gpu I am working on buying

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That first computer with this

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How is that for a pair?

wanton cliff
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a 1080Ti????

marsh kiln
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Yes

wanton cliff
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yeah, talk about a bottleneck

marsh kiln
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Very

median grotto
marsh kiln
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But I am still going to try

median grotto
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spicy???

marsh kiln
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Try to get it

median grotto
wanton cliff
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its likely an expansion card, if anything

marsh kiln
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What?

wanton cliff
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not everything that runs off of PCIe is a GPU

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of course, night is the only one that can really answer our question

median grotto
wanton cliff
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Capture cards, sound cards, and expansion cards are the main things that arent GPUs that usually run off of PCIe

median grotto
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oh i thought capture cards were connected to the hdmi

balmy patio
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pcie fans 🤌🕶️

wanton cliff
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depends on the card

balmy patio
wanton cliff
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some (like the elgato HD60s) run off of hdmi, while others (Elgato 4K60) run off of PCIe

median grotto
wanton cliff
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usually 1080p, yes

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so a quarter the size of the 4K60

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which is (as the name suggests), 4K

median grotto
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how much would be a cheap capture card

wanton cliff
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idk tbh

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why?

median grotto
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be cause i want to get into creating yt content

wanton cliff
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on an xbox or what?

median grotto
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pc lol

wanton cliff
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then just use OBS

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software capture

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free too

median grotto
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wont that affect my frame rate

wanton cliff
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not anymore than a capture card will

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cause using one of those caps your framerate at 60fps at 1080p

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assuming its an HDMI one of course

median grotto
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i have a 1070 i play 1080p 60 fps anyways lol

wanton cliff
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plus massive latency

potent portal
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@hollow grail What do you think of your "meme RAM" now?

winged lion
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Bc shadowplay has like no lag at all

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I can record anything in 4k60fps with no lag

median grotto
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Then I’ll use it

wanton cliff
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coughs in OBS

median grotto
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Will a 1070 support shadow play

winged lion
wanton cliff
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with NVENC OBS works just fine, but if you have a 5700 XT or something I can see why you would be worried

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oh?

winged lion
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Yep

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Idk why

wanton cliff
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ive never had even a drop of lag

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not once

pliant lake
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i would check your encoding settings to see why it may lag

winged lion
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I went over them many times

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And watched many tutorials to reduce lag

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But shadowplay is simpler anyway

pliant lake
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What resolution and bitrate?

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also fps

winged lion
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I believe I’m just recording 1080p 60fps

winged lion
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I need to check what bit rate I’m running

hollow grail
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obs isnt for recording screens

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oops

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obs is for streem only

wanton cliff
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Streamlabs OBS is what you are thinking of, lili

hollow grail
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obs shouldnt be used to record screens*

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when shadowplay exists

wanton cliff
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that makes more sense

cursive wharf
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ew, shadowplay

stoic island
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Shadowplay is bae tho

cursive wharf
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OBS is infinitely better for recording due to multi audio track support

wanton cliff
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I do like my audio...

uncut pelican
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So I have a problem, when I downloaded windows onto the pc it made a partition i will send pic. It shows as two drives

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I am so lost

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Is it possible to merge them so it shows as just one drive

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Because it is

muted patio
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WIndows Search

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Disk management

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Create and Format hard disk Partitions

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What's on the Main Disk?

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Before we go too far here

uncut pelican
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Nothing at all

muted patio
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Ok, good

uncut pelican
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It shows as free space

muted patio
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So the entire D drive is empty?

uncut pelican
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But windows as made multiple partitions

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Yeah

muted patio
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Ok

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Go to Disk Management

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AKA, Create and Format Partitions

ember crystal
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hey guys
my back cpu plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in but i havent put the part with thermal paste yet

uncut pelican
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This is what it shows as

muted patio
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Yep, WIndows Search, Disk Management, it will show as Create and Format, et

uncut pelican
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I am in disk mngt but when I right click on the free space it just shows help and new simple volumes

ember crystal
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hey guys
my back cpu cooler back plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in but i havent put the part with thermal paste yet

muted patio
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Gotta do the main D part

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You're trying to get rid of the D: drive right

uncut pelican
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Yeah and have everything show up as 1 drive

muted patio
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Or make the D: drive bigger?

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Ok, yeah

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Right click D: and choose Delete Volume

uncut pelican
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Because the partition for windows is 97gb so i would like to judt extend that to the full drive size

muted patio
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Yep

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After deleting volume, Right Click Boot Partition and Extend it

uncut pelican
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Wont let me delete it

muted patio
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With the new unallocated space

uncut pelican
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Hmm

muted patio
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Does it say why or just grayed out?

uncut pelican
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Just grayed

muted patio
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The Free SPace also?

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What happens if you right click C: and choose Extend?

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Can you add the free space to it?

uncut pelican
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This is it at the moment

muted patio
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RIght Click Boot partition C and see if Extend is an option

uncut pelican
muted patio
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And you can't delete the D or Free space part

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Interesting

uncut pelican
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Nop

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Which seems odd

celest horizon
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weird that you can't delete the D: partition

muted patio
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I know

uncut pelican
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Ikr

muted patio
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Yo comfrotable with CMD?

celest horizon
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I'd just unmount the D: drive and not mess with it tbh

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3GB isn't much space to give up

muted patio
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Forks

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There's 800 GB there

celest horizon
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oh haha

muted patio
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In free space we can't get to

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XD

celest horizon
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Can you create a new partition on that?

uncut pelican
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Uhhh

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Lemme try

muted patio
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I'd try the CMD or PowerShell route myself

uncut pelican
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Why don't I understand this o.o

muted patio
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It's supposed to be "easy"

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Right click, choose option, done

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If they're all grayed out, it's not your fault

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OTOH, if this is a brand new install, it doesn't take long to do it all over again. 10-15 minutes and completely wiping the drive from the installer

uncut pelican
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So just redo the install?

muted patio
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If it's 100% fresh, yes

uncut pelican
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Aight

muted patio
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During the install, delete ALL partitions

uncut pelican
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I won't have to buy a new key right?

muted patio
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No

uncut pelican
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I can just use the same one?

muted patio
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SHould be able to, might be a couple extra steps

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Anyway, make sure you delete ALL the partitions

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and allocate all the space to the new install

vagrant olive
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i mightve bricked my mobo while trying to flash bios less goo

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i wont know until i get a gpu tho

muted patio
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oof

wanton cliff
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rip

wicked frigate
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Hey just wondering has anyone got an email from the shuffle saying if I won or not

stoic island
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Yes

wicked frigate
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I haven’t got one

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I called and they said I have to wait

stoic island
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It's delayed for some people

wicked frigate
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We do t control it

stoic island
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winners got emailed first

wicked frigate
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Oh

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Did u win

muted patio
wicked frigate
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Oh ok thx

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@stoic island u won???

stoic island
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No

wicked frigate
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Guys how many items can u select

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What happened to b and h

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They didn’t have any today

stoic island
vagrant olive
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still never got an email from newegg about it lol

wicked frigate
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How many items can u select is there an limit for example can I select all or 1 or 4

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@vagrant olive means u didn’t win

vagrant olive
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yeah ik

wicked frigate
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@stoic island when u can answer my question or anyone dm me please i gtg have an nice day cya

stoic island
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dunno

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I don't know so I didn't give an answer

little osprey
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I selected all lol there's no limit

vernal pagoda
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ram sticks go in slots 1 and 2

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thank me later

muted patio
stoic island
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@vernal pagoda for boards with only 2 slots yes

austere wagon
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My power supply doesn’t show why have an rgb one lol

little osprey
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Yayyyy

uncut pelican
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Foot pic

wanton cliff
muted patio
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Mr

wanton cliff
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yall know my first name

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tell me yours

desert gulch
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What's your first name

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Sara, what's your first name

balmy patio
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bruh

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smh

stoic island
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mister

desert gulch
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Bruh tell us

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You know mine and saras

muted patio
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My bologna has a first name

limber light
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You'll never guess my first name.

desert gulch
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Idk vintage you seen like a "Mike" to me idk

wanton cliff
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or a zack

muted patio
wanton cliff
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with a k

desert gulch
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Yea maybe

limber light
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What am i

muted patio
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Not even remotely close

desert gulch
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H

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Hmmm

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Ill try to telepathically connect with vintage

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And get his first name

muted patio
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applies tinfoil hat and crystals

desert gulch
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I telepathically connect thru wifi or bluetooth

little osprey
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@uncut pelican

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Anyways. It’s a monster

muted patio
wanton cliff
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mmmmmm

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bob

desert gulch
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i aint on no bluetooth 5.0 bruh

wanton cliff
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jason

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hes def a jason

desert gulch
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it takes some time to transfer the data

muted patio
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Bruh

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It's a name

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not Ark

wanton cliff
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heh

desert gulch
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yo 200gb name file is still transfering bruh

wanton cliff
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brains store files differently

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it takes time to transfer a .txt into a .brain

desert gulch
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vintage you do realize my dramless ssd is having trouble writing the data right?

muted patio
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SO what's my name?

wanton cliff
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jason

little osprey
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can someone help me build a newer parts list for my pc tower with a set budget

desert gulch
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bruh takes a while to put a 200gb name file on a 120gb ssd

little osprey
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@desert gulch 700$ and i have a h510i micro atx case i believe

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it might be full atx

desert gulch
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hmm

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gaming or editing or streaming?

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what are we looking at here?

little osprey
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gaming and light streaming

desert gulch
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uhh id wait if i were you

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cause the budget gpu market is really sstruggling

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you can hardly find a good value gpu rn

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especially with budget

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id go maybe 10400f and 1660s if that would fit in

little osprey
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i have a okay gpu just looking for mobo,cpu,ram,storage and cpu cooler

desert gulch
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which i think it would

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oh ok

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what gpu?

little osprey
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5500xt

desert gulch
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thing about that one is

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no video encoders

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which will put more stress on cpu when streaming

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or rendering

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would you ever consider upgrading that gpu?

wanton cliff
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idk about rendering but yeah def streaming

little osprey
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yes

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i wanna get a 5700xt

desert gulch
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i wouldnt for streaming

jagged ember
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why not aim higher

muted patio
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If you're streaming

desert gulch
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3060ti better

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for that

muted patio
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I'd highly recommend nVidia

desert gulch
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same price

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mhmm

jagged ember
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nvidia

muted patio
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Due to the built in encoder cores

little osprey
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my last nvidia card like died in 4 months

jagged ember
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that not because nvidia is a bad company

desert gulch
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well most come with a warranty i believe

muted patio
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Ouch

jagged ember
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although, that's a topic for another day

muted patio
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That can happen to any card though TBH

desert gulch
#

yeah

jagged ember
#

it's why everything comes with 1 year warranty

#

1 year is the usual time nvidia expects any hardware failure to show up

desert gulch
#

mhmm

#

maybe they bought used

jagged ember
#

maybe

little osprey
#

yeah but ive had 2 nvidia cards and just had issues with both after some time , first was a 780 ti sc a while back and before my 5500xt was a ROG STRIX 2060

jagged ember
#

unlucky, i guess

desert gulch
#

both new?

#

when you bought?

wanton cliff
#

tfw GPU is actually idling at room temp

desert gulch
#

also was the same psu used for both?

#

bad psu could shorten life by a bit

little osprey
#

the strix yes the 780 ti no on being new and both were used on seprate brand new psus at 800w

desert gulch
#

Weird

jagged ember
#

but what psus specifically?

desert gulch
#

What psu?

#

Ye

little osprey
#

corsair something i dont remember

jagged ember
#

hm

#

well, i dunno why it'd have issues

#

but both graphics cards i've had from nvidia have had absolutely no problems at all

#

i had a 760 that still runs well, and a 2070S that just works

#

to quote a famous man

languid nimbus
#

time for 3090 then

jagged ember
#

indeed

little osprey
#

lol well i only have a 700$ budget

jagged ember
#

yeah lmao

little osprey
#

just anyone down to help me rebuild my pc ?

wide sigil
#

Yal my 5700xt wont boot, idk if it's because i cant seat it. My 770 gtx boots but not the 5700xt. It used to work but now doesnt. I even did bios downgrade to see if that was the issue. 5700xt works on other pc. What the heck do i do lol. It has full power but maybe windows rejects it?

wanton cliff
#

Weird

#

Lemme think

desert gulch
#

Does fans spin when power on?

wanton cliff
#

Does it display video at all?

jagged ember
#

sythen, you have a case right?

wanton cliff
#

Do you get a warning light?

little osprey
#

yes

jagged ember
#

and peripherals

little osprey
#

yes

jagged ember
#

ram?

little osprey
#

no

jagged ember
#

ah

wide sigil
#

No video at all lmao fans dont spit just led

jagged ember
#

okay fair

#

PSU?

little osprey
#

pm me @jagged ember

wide sigil
#

Evga supernova g3 850w

jagged ember
#

i'd rather do it here lol

#

i want professional eyes on my build list

wanton cliff
#

Check cables on PSU and into GPU

wide sigil
#

Just sayin my 770 works with same cables

#

I think its windows or gpu seating

jagged ember
#

bruh moment

wanton cliff
#

Heck the cables into the PSU rq

jagged ember
#

christ prices are actually awful

wide sigil
#

Can windows block my gpu

wanton cliff
#

No

#

Is it drivers?

#

Do you have the correct drivers installed?

wide sigil
#

I ddu'd the amd

#

I had it up to date before

#

But nothing loads

jagged ember
wide sigil
#

It only works on non asus board

wanton cliff
#

DDU everything, see if it works

jagged ember
#

assuming you've got a PSU

wide sigil
#

Lmao i tried that too

wanton cliff
#

Wait

little osprey
#

@jagged ember ill pm you what i have

wanton cliff
#

Go into BIOS, turn off CPU c-states, turn all devices down to PCIe 3.0

jagged ember
#

gpu i can't say what's a good deal because it's all bad deals

still roostBOT
#
nicegame#6990 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

jagged ember
#

pg13

wide sigil
#

Holy shiatsu was it gen 3

jagged ember
#

no swores

wide sigil
#

The card supports gen 4

wanton cliff
#

It’s a problem with X570 and B550 boards right now and it might be a solution and no, the card does not

wide sigil
#

U serious

#

B r u h

wanton cliff
#

Turn CPU C-states off and all PCIe devices down to Gen 3

#

In BIOS

wide sigil
#

Well ill be

#

Ill try it

fast dust
#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

yes

fast dust
#

how much is this computer in question

little osprey
#

600 atm

fast dust
#

terrible price

#

get this instead

#

better, everything pretty much

wanton cliff
#

You could unironically sell the top one for a grand these days

fast dust
#

this HP computer has a better CPU, a much much better GPU, same amount of ram, same amount of storage, so you'll get like, triple the performance in gaming cause of it's 1650 super rather than RX 550, cause RX 550 really isnt much of a gaming card @little osprey

little osprey
#

ok thank you

fast dust
#

np

little osprey
#

do you know if it will be easily upgradeable?

fast dust
#

eh, prebuilts arent totally meant for upgrade, but i bet you could totally upgrade the graphics card inthe future

jagged ember
#

hello friends

#

system build for scythen i made, please fix

#

also it's missing a gpu lmao

vagrant olive
#

haha my psu fan go rainbow light brr

vagrant olive
jagged ember
#

ye

#

they have storage

#

is fine

vagrant olive
#

oh kk

jagged ember
#

just updated ram and cpu to have an igpu

#

to hold out until they get a gpu

rich helm
jagged ember
#

700

#

I forget to say these things

rich helm
#

700 no gpu

#

Or with

jagged ember
#

With if possible

#

But currently market is ass

rich helm
#

Then why do you have z490

#

And a more expensive one at that

jagged ember
#

Idk

#

That's why I'm looking for feedback

rich helm
#

Well there’s this

#

@jagged ember

jagged ember
#

True, true

#

Nice cooler too

rich helm
#

If they just want to do 700 now then do gpu later for more would do 10600k and dark rock pro 4 probably

jagged ember
#

Eh I like noctua

#

Flex material

rich helm
#

It’s like $85 for be quiet pro 4 and it’s black or 90 for the d15 and it’s tan so I don’t know for certain but I would think the noctua is better for cooling but just looks worse

jagged ember
#

It's quieter and cooler iirc

rich helm
#

No pro 4 is def quieter

jagged ember
#

Well, it's up to the person

#

Not me so

wanton cliff
#

It’s only slightly cooler

jagged ember
#

I shall consult

wanton cliff
#

As in barely

rich helm
#

Pro 4 seems like the better deal

jagged ember
#

Ok whatever is cheaper then

wanton cliff
#

I prefer the dark rock pro 4

#

Looks better

#

Usually cheaper

jagged ember
#

But flex

#

Lmao

rich helm
#

Most people they would encounter at school would have absolutely no idea about noctua and not really care that much lol

#

I’ve tried flexing pc components it doesn’t work unless it’s a graphics card or cpu

jagged ember
#

Loll

#

Only the elite understand

#

Dark rock tho

#

Thanks

desert gulch
#

i like dark rock more

#

looks way better

#

noctua ugly

#

color wise

jagged ember
#

Yeah

still bay
jagged ember
#

Idc personally

rich helm
jagged ember
#

But it's not my pc

still bay
#

or like aorus elite b550 extreme gaming motherboard for gamers by gamers

jagged ember
#

Is true

#

Will consult build paths

#

Thank you

rich helm
#

Am regretting decision to get an AIO now lol

jagged ember
#

Did it explode

rich helm
# jagged ember Did it explode

Nah, The pump is really loud, pro 4 would cool better and better overclock, and not as ugly as tubes, and pro 4 was slightly cheaper

#

I was dumb

wanton cliff
#

Tubes look nice

#

Imo

#

Rads and AIOs in general

rich helm
#

IMO

#

Top mounted, yes
Front mounted, no

wanton cliff
#

Arguable

#

Never done a top mount actually

rich helm
#

Of course my ram was slightly too tall for my AIO to be top mounted Bruh

#

The case is also on the smaller side so that did play a part

#

Only advantage of AIO is able to see rgb ram better and can populate all slots with taller sticks

#

With large air cooler it can block of left most slot

wanton cliff
#

They look nicer

rich helm
#

Cleaner look for sure

#

I think custom loop would look much better than AIO cause you have the good looking parts (rad/fans and cpu block) but also get nice reservoir and cool tubing and fittings that can be changed to go how you want.

jagged ember
#

while we're on coolers

#

gammaxx 400

#

good for a 3600?

wanton cliff
#

Yes

jagged ember
#

thank

wanton cliff
#

Ventroo V2 as well

#

Both are very good

jagged ember
#

no ventroo available here :(

#

i will get later this week

wanton cliff
#

Gammax then

fossil halo
#

gammax is p good

jagged ember
#

replace my stupid stupid stock cooler

wanton cliff
#

Both are very comparable

jagged ember
#

also i need a new backplate so

#

two birds with one stone

wanton cliff
#

Why’s that?

jagged ember
#

i unthreaded one of the holes on my backplate lmao

#

one screw won't go in no matter how far inside the hole it is

wanton cliff
#

Oh no

jagged ember
#

it just pops right back out

#

so i was like, why not just go get a new cooler instead?

rich helm
#

Yeah probably hard to get replacement back plates id imagine

jagged ember
#

i'll finally be able to run CTR 1.2

fossil halo
#

gpu backplates are so expensive

wanton cliff
fossil halo
#

oh

wanton cliff
#

Or whatever company

fossil halo
#

like the standard ones tho right

#

the cool rgb ones are really expensive

jagged ember
#

lol

rich helm
jagged ember
#

i'd imagine so, yes

fossil halo
jagged ember
#

but i can't be sure

fossil halo
#

but i mean they should just keep a standard

#

like most strix cards have the same backplate right

jagged ember
#

but you know what i can be sure of? This segue to our sponsor

rich helm
#

So like the 3060ti might not be the same size as the 3080/3090 strix

#

Who needs custom back plate when you have that sleek looking founders edition backplate

jagged ember
#

who needs custom back plate when you have cardboard

fossil halo
#

that is the only card i will buy now

jagged ember
#

but what about a 3070

#

or a 3080 or 3090?

#

i'd be happy if i got any of those

echo lark
#

its my first time building a pc can anybody help me find a cpu

fossil halo
#

nope

#

only

#

the 3060ti

#

founders edition

wanton cliff
#

What’s your budget, what parts do you already have, if any

echo lark
#

budget is 950 and my friend gave me some part suggestions

echo lark
wanton cliff
#

Let’s say 1k for math’s sake

echo lark
#

k

wanton cliff
#

What suggestions did your friend give?

echo lark
#

here is what he suggested

#

but not that case i just put one to see the price of what it would add to it

wanton cliff
#

Some pretty good suggestions but he clearly doesn’t realize the state of the current GPU market

#

Can you link that list please?

echo lark
#

sure

#

sorry one sec wrong list

wanton cliff
#

Wrong link

echo lark
#

shoot i didnt log in sry

#

but im not sure how to send it to you

wanton cliff
#

It’s the link right above the actual parts

#

Not at the top

#

In the search bar

echo lark
#

oh ok

wanton cliff
#

Alright that’s... not the greatest

#

One sec

echo lark
#

ok

echo lark
#

k

wanton cliff
#

It’s possible for me to bring it down if you like

echo lark
#

yea sure

wanton cliff
#

But that’s about the optimal PC for around that budget

echo lark
#

can you bring it down just a bit and i will go from there

echo lark
wanton cliff
#

Sure

echo lark
#

thank you 🙂

#

is the 3060 Ti out of stock?

wanton cliff
#

Yes

#

All new graphics cards are

echo lark
#

is the EVGA XC3 3060 good

wanton cliff
#

Yeah

echo lark
#

ok do you think these will be in stock soon

raw crane
#

yo

echo lark
#

can i stream and play games on this?

wanton cliff
#

Also one of the only ones for around MSRP

#

Yes

#

Very easily

raw crane
#

what is the difference between a 2080 super and a 3080?

#

i genuinely dont know if the difference is worth it

echo lark
#

k thnks so much

wanton cliff
#

3080 is about 1.7x the performance, has 2 more gigs of (much faster) VRAM, and has second generation Ray Tracing cores and DLSS

raw crane
#

like i was thinking about getting a 3070 but i saw the 2080 super and i know the 30 series is the newest but idk the difference

#

thank you

wanton cliff
#

3070 is around the performance of a 2080Ti, also with second generation Ray tracing and third generation DLSS

#

3060Ti is 2080 super with, as mentioned, second gen RTX and 3rd Gen DLSS

echo lark
wanton cliff
#

You just kind of have to catch one

echo lark
#

k thnks

wanton cliff
#

Your best bet is going to be the popular product drawing event by Newegg

raw crane
#

do you think the 30 series is worth it?

echo lark
#

ok thank you

wanton cliff
#

Don’t get a 1050Ti

#

It’s a bad card

raw crane
#

or is the 20 series still good

wanton cliff
#

And 20 series is laughed at in comparison

raw crane
#

okay so the 30 series is that good okay

wanton cliff
#

Absolutely no reason to get a 2000 series card when you can get a 3000 series one

echo lark
#

where is the popular product drawing event

#

on there website

raw crane
#

thank you

wanton cliff
#

For shuffle (popular product drawing event)

#

We call it shuffle here

echo lark
#

ok thanks

raw crane
#

what doers it mean when a cpu has intel graphics

wanton cliff
#

It means it has integrated graphics

raw crane
#

and what is the difference with a cpu that doesnt have it

#

like is there a performance difference

wanton cliff
#

It means that you don’t need a GPU

#

Not to display video at least

#

It’s not a powerful GPU but it’s one that works

quasi snow
#

and it can scrape by in older or lower spec games

wanton cliff
#

Back in the day, before dedicated GPUs got popular, every GPU was integrated

wanton cliff
raw crane
#

oooh okay thank you

#

so would you say in performance wise, which is better : Intel Core i5-10600K or the Intel Core i5-10600KF

quasi snow
#

They're the same performance wise

raw crane
#

because honestly the integrated graphics isnt something thats that big since youre getting a gpu anyways with it

#

right?

quasi snow
#

the k version can display video and the kf can't

wanton cliff
#

KF just doesn’t have integrated graphics

raw crane
#

right

wanton cliff
#

That’s what the F means

#

K means it’s overclockable

raw crane
#

right

#

but they perform the same?

wanton cliff
#

Basically yes

#

I expect f version to be a bit cheaper

runic hound
#

is it even worth to go for the 11th gen intel stuff

#

benchmarks dont look that great so far, hopefully they are a bit cheaper than 10th gen

wanton cliff
#

No one knows yet

#

It’s not out

raw crane
#

thank you

halcyon swallow
#

I cant buy anything on eBay faak

#

Ima try new egg...

mortal umbra
#

Wut a coincidence

severe axle
#

I have the gamers nexus video next to those 2

raw crane
#

is this a good build

#

or can i change the cpu to something cheaper

earnest olive
#

change the mobo

#

asrock's entire z490 lineup is bad

raw crane
#

okay

earnest olive
#

Z490 AORUS ELITE is similarly priced but much better

raw crane
#

but should i get a cheaper cpu? lowkey feel like its overkill

earnest olive
#

i mean

raw crane
#

okay i appreciate that

earnest olive
#

you bought $250 worth of rgb fans

raw crane
#

LMAO

earnest olive
#

i don't think saving money should be a consideration

raw crane
#

WAIT

#

okay but

#

youre right didnt have to expose me

#

but i mean

earnest olive
#

the 10700KF is a fine pairing for the 3070 at 1080p

raw crane
#

thats for aesthetic

earnest olive
#

at 1440p you can get away with cheaper

#

10600K + MSI Z490-A PRO would be fine

raw crane
#

okay thank you

charred compass
#

guys i have fallen to the scalpers. 🙏🏻

#

rip

raw crane
#

is the MSI Z490-A PRO avaibale in white do you know?

earnest olive
#

it is not

raw crane
#

damnit

#

😦

earnest olive
#

maybe you could look at the Z490 VISION G if you want something with white accents that isn't garbage

#

the NZXT N7 Z490 is the whitest motherboard there is but i am unsure how good it is

raw crane
#

yeah is aw that mobo but wasnt feeling it

earnest olive
#

i have a mostly white build

#

just went with all black mobo though

#

looks fine to me

raw crane
#

can you send a photo?

#

if you dont mind

earnest olive
#

why would i ever mind showing off my child

#

i added another fan on top of the vram and moved the figurine to the right but haven't taken a good pic of that yet

#

i ordered a 7" monitor today that i will put on top of the psu shroud in front of gpu to use as a decorative panel with animated wallpapers

raw crane
#

OWW

#

WOW

#

THAT LOOKS GREAT TOO!

#

i love

earnest olive
#

those argb fans cost me $3 each

#

pricing error by retailer

raw crane
#

why are the lian li so damnnnn expensiiivee

#

how much were theyu origninaly

#

like the vendor price

earnest olive
#

like $12 each

raw crane
#

oh woowww

#

what a steal

mortal garnet
earnest olive
#

nah

#

found this nice animated wallpaper

#

it has audio indicators at the bottom too

mortal garnet
#

ooo

earnest olive
#

gonna put this on the third monitor and hide the taskbar

#

the animation is just simple rain effect but i really like the art

mortal garnet
#

it looks nice

earnest olive
#

yeah it's gonna be really cool having a screen inside the pc to put whatever

#

and for much cheaper than getting one of those aios with small screen

#

lol

mortal garnet
#

i kinda wanted to do that but all my cases were too compact for it

earnest olive
#

$70

mortal garnet
#

especially now that i have no tg window

earnest olive
#

hm

#

technically no glass panel and having a side mounted fan is best for performance

#

but i can't resist spending too much money making my pc look pretty

mortal garnet
#

yea having a tg window is a double edged sword lol

earnest olive
#

me like pretty

mortal garnet
#

i lowkey spent a lot to make my old build look pretty

#

only reason i went with an aio was bc it helped make my build look less empty lol

earnest olive
#

i bought my aio because it has a pretty snowflake on the block and looks cool

#

it's totally overkill for my cpu

#

costs almost as much as my cpu

mortal garnet
#

buying an aio for my ryzen 5>

earnest olive
#

yup

#

$130 360mm aio on $146 ryzen 5 3600x

#

lol

#

though tbf i was originally planning to upgrade to a 5800x

mortal garnet
#

i got one for my 5600x

#

but i was gonna get a 5800x at first too

#

had an order for one on amazon, but realized i dont really need the extra cores anymore

earnest olive
#

i thought i would need to upgrade to avoid bottlenecking my 3080

#

tested it and was not the case

mortal garnet
#

you running a 1440p monitor ?

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

would definitely be a bottleneck at 1080p

mortal garnet
#

o nice

#

lotta ppl underestimate the 3600

desert gulch
#

this tbh

vapid bay
#

R5 3400g
ID-cooling se224 xt v2 argb
Tuf b450m pro gaemin
G.skill trident z rgb 2x8-3200
Team elite mp34 512gb
Wd blue 1tb 7200rpm
Seasonic core gm650 650w
Tecware Vega M case
Case comes with 3 Tecware Orbis F1 argb fans (idk if i rly should rgb an apu build tbh)
Viewsonic XG2405
Keychron K6 plast/rgb/red/hotswap
Viper mini
Corsair mm200 extended

I have zero hopes on being able to get a gpu anymore smh. Will just settle here ig

#

I'll also prob remove the rainbows too

#

Hard to light up no gpu build without being disappointed tbh

sharp tundra
vapid bay
#

So what? I'm still in a process of canvassing

#

It's hard to buy gpu and i'm not biting for one rn

sharp tundra
#

maybe wait till they come back instock?

vapid bay
#

Uh huh

#

I'm not in us nor near it

sharp tundra
#

and? graphics cards arent only sold in the US

vapid bay
#

Exactly

#

And here the prices of the cards is doubled

sharp tundra
#

where you from?

vapid bay
#

Philippines

mortal garnet
#

might aswell go with intel lol

vapid bay
#

Where 3060 is like

#

Almost a thousand

vapid bay
#

If i can clutch 1 gpu

sharp tundra
#

a 3060 should be 14629.50 for you

#

right?

vapid bay
#

Uh

sharp tundra
#

in philippine money?

vapid bay
#

No

#

It's basically sold here for like $930 if were gonna talk about the 3060

sharp tundra
#

you use the Philippine Peso