#building-and-recc-chat
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Maybe
Yeah. Because I just upgraded my graphics and the mobo I mentioned above is only compatible with it. The ryzen is what is being recommended now for my processor instead of the 10600.
show me your pcpp list
And I can’t jump to a newer model because I’d have to get a new cooling fan and at that point it would be cheaper to just get an entirely new build from scratch.
who is recommending it?
I used a website called mypcbuilder or something. It was recommended via this disc
gronsk
Let me punch in all the components
Use PC Part Picker
Pcpartpicker.com is nice
Yeah that’s the one
Pcpp = pc part picker
what mobo do you have already
Whole list will be good
What a noob move I did. I forgot my top radiator slightly hangs over my RAM slots and now my new memory doesn't fit 🤦♂️
@potent portal did you buy Corsair rgb sticks
so you got it?
:p
And it’s telling me to use ryzen 5 3600/prime X750
Who is?
the new ram
pcpp's algorithm for that sucks
what motherboard do you have already
No XPG rgb sticks, slightly higher profile than my old ripjaws
I actually got to dip so I’ll have to send my pcpp when I get back
Time to move my rad to the front
you put in search filters, it chooses a part for you
try it
Oh that thing
parametric
Yes that’s what I am using
Prime X570 is cheapest? lol
Parametric is nice for price checking
What happens if you don’t get compatible parts
it wont give you incompatible ones
Just give us the list :p
No the ryzen 3600 is cheapest lul. The prime is what they’re telling me to upgrade to
can't recommend upgrade path without knowing what you already have
SEND LIST
Lol okay I will get the list when I get back.
Pcpp still thinks B450 and X470 can't support the new cpu line
rip
For sure, I would love help. Gotta dip out for a few right now. 🥶
yeah, its weird like that
Well the B550 don't support out of the box either lol
It's the same thing with b450 and Zen 3, except this time they're not just technically correct, I don't think any b450 boards ship with Zen 3 bios
i put an HX1200i on my list
so u did get that adata kit

liar
some do
Look at pricing
Right but the agesa updates released earlier this month added support
In my defense I didn't know exactly which kit you were talking about
@sharp tundra hx1200i says 310$, but you can't buy from Corsair for 310$, soooooo
Wack
the one meme 4133 cl19 kit
for like $120
so youre saying imma have to pay more
@hollow grail NVM I'm dumb, this was the kit, price is higher than I thought
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085LY941T
pcpp filter is nice for mixing mATX/ATX mobos with mATX/ATX only cases when the mobos go out of stock
@sharp tundra if you can find it at all that is, other than the wack 600$ amazon listing
Huh
i dont use amazon to find my pc parts anymore
nothing but scalpers on there
$2400 MOBO
no way
3.5x msrp
I just use pcpp parametric selection for my pricing lists
I need to make more of em tho
not worth it
Amazon has garbage searches for pc parts anyway, I search for 2TB and there's 320GB drives in the list
is 3600 too
literally never use their search, use googles

@hollow grail c14
i only use amazon anymore for peripherals and other stuff
Has to be b die
I get very nice results just using google and clicking on Amazon links
or if they actually show msrp price on pc parts
Yeah Google ironically searches Amazon better than Amazon does
3600c14 cl timing wise is better than 4000c16, depending on the kit the actual first word read should be better too
@cursive wharf I use pcpp for finding amazon items >:D
Pcpp doesn't have everything indexed though
Dats the joke
is it better than 4000cl15?
Too lazy to calculate or check, probably not
7.5ns i think on that 4000cl15
:p
FAke?
get the cheapest ram you can find, run at like 4000c25 or smth
Found correct formula again
(tRCD + tCL + BL) / (mhz/2000)
@sharp tundra that's literally like tCL/(mhz/2000)
All it tells you is cl latency
So no, it's not actually first word read
:D
The kit I got has a xmp profile for 4000c18 so I'll tighten the timings and it'll be fine
Probably b-die
Making me do math smh
what happens if separate read/write rcd?
cuz AMD
Laptop won't connect to the internet so I might have to pull our calculator
@cursive wharf hm, I'm guessing use the larger latency, which is usually trcdrd iirc
seems reasonable
"This entire sequence of events takes tRCD + tCL + BL clock cycles. tRCD = ACT to internal read or write delay time"
That's from where I pulled the first word read formula from
u should use thinkpad

@hollow grail dell laptop >:D

Anyways looks like it's 17.5ns for 4000c15 kit, 17.77ns for 3600c14 kit
Just wondering because I found someone selling the same one for 150
And I don't have a monitor
for 150 its still bad
@marsh kiln good 1080p144hz panels are ~190$, usually 144hz starts at ~150$ so
Fine panel
honestly my main display is tn and it looks great
hi
i swear to god if you ask about your stupid fans
no?
yep
@little osprey
isnt 24in kinda small tbh
well i mean considering its a second one that makes sense
but like do you have 2 24ins?
what is a good cheap mobo for this cpu
Yes
@halcyon swallow b560 pro4, 100$ on wegg last I checked
yeooo
B560? That's exists?
got tha link?
Sent a pic
I'll go grab a link
aightly
@halcyon swallow great board compared to any b460 or h410
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977
If I make my game run across both at the same time that's 48" and 3840x2160 at 144fps
Might be cheaper b560 boards that released recently, but pro4 was the cheapest when I first looked
ooo
i have a 27 and a 24
I used to have a 28" 4k and a 24" 1080p
Sold the 4k today and then bought the second 1080p
Hopefully they accept PayPal 😅
What should a used 1080ti go for?
~400
if you're buying, like $300, if you're selling then like $350 - $450
Will this support the i5 10400f ?
me here with my 1070 and 6600k 
@median grotto don't worry I don't even have a computer really compatible with a gpu x16 but I am working of buying a 1080ti
Aaaa! Okie thankie
me here with a 3800x and 3070 
you dont have a x16 compatible PCIe slot?
how old is your computer lol
BRUH DO YOU KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU ARE I CANT FIND A 3070 AVALIBLE ANYWHERE
got it from shuffle
Sara hang on
oof
Ok I have one or two but the motherboard more than likely could not handle it
wht r u tring 2 do?
some MSI or Gigabyte board from a while ago?
I mean I have this as well
asus mobo
it looks like its steel reinforced
whts happeningh?
i find it hard to believe a mobo with a steel reinforced PCIe slot cant handle x16 speeds
r u installign a gpu?
stfu awesomeka
Think the 2nd one can handle it?
yeah
it has an x16 slot, no?
if it has an x16 slot or a slot in x16 size, it means it can fit a GPU
@wanton cliff just wondering 😢
actual clearance in that case is a different issue
The cpu had a thin plastic over it for the cpu cooler
Yea but the cpu would be more than a bottle neck for a gpu I am working on buying
That first computer with this
How is that for a pair?
a 1080Ti????
Yes
yeah, talk about a bottleneck
Very
But I am still going to try
spicy???
Try to get it
what gpu is dat
its likely an expansion card, if anything
What?
not everything that runs off of PCIe is a GPU
of course, night is the only one that can really answer our question
i didnt know that
Capture cards, sound cards, and expansion cards are the main things that arent GPUs that usually run off of PCIe
oh i thought capture cards were connected to the hdmi
pcie fans 🤌🕶️
depends on the card
some of them
some (like the elgato HD60s) run off of hdmi, while others (Elgato 4K60) run off of PCIe
are the hdmi ones lower rez
usually 1080p, yes
so a quarter the size of the 4K60
which is (as the name suggests), 4K
how much would be a cheap capture card
be cause i want to get into creating yt content
on an xbox or what?
pc lol
wont that affect my frame rate
not anymore than a capture card will
cause using one of those caps your framerate at 60fps at 1080p
assuming its an HDMI one of course
i have a 1070 i play 1080p 60 fps anyways lol
plus massive latency
@hollow grail What do you think of your "meme RAM" now?
Wait U can’t use shadowplay?
Bc shadowplay has like no lag at all
I can record anything in 4k60fps with no lag
Then I’ll use it
coughs in OBS
Will a 1070 support shadow play
I still get lag on obs even with the nvenc
with NVENC OBS works just fine, but if you have a 5700 XT or something I can see why you would be worried
oh?
i would check your encoding settings to see why it may lag
I went over them many times
And watched many tutorials to reduce lag
But shadowplay is simpler anyway
I believe I’m just recording 1080p 60fps
still meem ram
I need to check what bit rate I’m running
Streamlabs OBS is what you are thinking of, lili
that makes more sense
ew, shadowplay
Shadowplay is bae tho
OBS is infinitely better for recording due to multi audio track support
I do like my audio...
So I have a problem, when I downloaded windows onto the pc it made a partition i will send pic. It shows as two drives
I am so lost
Is it possible to merge them so it shows as just one drive
Because it is
WIndows Search
Disk management
Create and Format hard disk Partitions
What's on the Main Disk?
Before we go too far here
Nothing at all
Ok, good
It shows as free space
So the entire D drive is empty?
hey guys
my back cpu plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in but i havent put the part with thermal paste yet
This is what it shows as
Yep, WIndows Search, Disk Management, it will show as Create and Format, et
I am in disk mngt but when I right click on the free space it just shows help and new simple volumes
hey guys
my back cpu cooler back plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in but i havent put the part with thermal paste yet
Yeah and have everything show up as 1 drive
Because the partition for windows is 97gb so i would like to judt extend that to the full drive size
Wont let me delete it
With the new unallocated space
Hmm
Does it say why or just grayed out?
Just grayed
The Free SPace also?
What happens if you right click C: and choose Extend?
Can you add the free space to it?
This is it at the moment
RIght Click Boot partition C and see if Extend is an option
Extend volume is grayed
weird that you can't delete the D: partition
I know
Ikr
Yo comfrotable with CMD?
I'd just unmount the D: drive and not mess with it tbh
3GB isn't much space to give up
oh haha
Can you create a new partition on that?
I'd try the CMD or PowerShell route myself
Why don't I understand this o.o
It's supposed to be "easy"
Right click, choose option, done
If they're all grayed out, it's not your fault
OTOH, if this is a brand new install, it doesn't take long to do it all over again. 10-15 minutes and completely wiping the drive from the installer
So just redo the install?
If it's 100% fresh, yes
Aight
During the install, delete ALL partitions
I won't have to buy a new key right?
No
I can just use the same one?
SHould be able to, might be a couple extra steps
Anyway, make sure you delete ALL the partitions
and allocate all the space to the new install
i mightve bricked my mobo while trying to flash bios less goo
i wont know until i get a gpu tho
oof
rip
Hey just wondering has anyone got an email from the shuffle saying if I won or not
Yes
It's delayed for some people
We do t control it
winners got emailed first
Read this from mike #general-chat message
No
Guys how many items can u select
What happened to b and h
They didn’t have any today
still never got an email from newegg about it lol
How many items can u select is there an limit for example can I select all or 1 or 4
@vagrant olive means u didn’t win
yeah ik
@stoic island when u can answer my question or anyone dm me please i gtg have an nice day cya
I selected all lol there's no limit

@vernal pagoda for boards with only 2 slots yes
My power supply doesn’t show why have an rgb one lol
Yayyyy
Foot pic
Mr
mister
My bologna has a first name
You'll never guess my first name.
Idk vintage you seen like a "Mike" to me idk
or a zack

with a k
Yea maybe
What am i
Not even remotely close
applies tinfoil hat and crystals
I telepathically connect thru wifi or bluetooth
I take it the bluetooth failed
i aint on no bluetooth 5.0 bruh
it takes some time to transfer the data
heh
yo 200gb name file is still transfering bruh
vintage you do realize my dramless ssd is having trouble writing the data right?
SO what's my name?
jason
can someone help me build a newer parts list for my pc tower with a set budget
bruh takes a while to put a 200gb name file on a 120gb ssd
budget and use case?
@desert gulch 700$ and i have a h510i micro atx case i believe
it might be full atx
gaming and light streaming
uhh id wait if i were you
cause the budget gpu market is really sstruggling
you can hardly find a good value gpu rn
especially with budget
id go maybe 10400f and 1660s if that would fit in
i have a okay gpu just looking for mobo,cpu,ram,storage and cpu cooler
5500xt
thing about that one is
no video encoders
which will put more stress on cpu when streaming
or rendering
would you ever consider upgrading that gpu?
idk about rendering but yeah def streaming
i wouldnt for streaming
why not aim higher
If you're streaming
I'd highly recommend nVidia
nvidia
Due to the built in encoder cores
my last nvidia card like died in 4 months
that not because nvidia is a bad company
well most come with a warranty i believe
Ouch
although, that's a topic for another day
That can happen to any card though TBH
yeah
it's why everything comes with 1 year warranty
1 year is the usual time nvidia expects any hardware failure to show up
maybe
yeah but ive had 2 nvidia cards and just had issues with both after some time , first was a 780 ti sc a while back and before my 5500xt was a ROG STRIX 2060
unlucky, i guess
tfw GPU is actually idling at room temp
the strix yes the 780 ti no on being new and both were used on seprate brand new psus at 800w
Weird
but what psus specifically?
corsair something i dont remember
hm
well, i dunno why it'd have issues
but both graphics cards i've had from nvidia have had absolutely no problems at all
i had a 760 that still runs well, and a 2070S that just works
to quote a famous man
indeed
lol well i only have a 700$ budget
yeah lmao
just anyone down to help me rebuild my pc ?
Yal my 5700xt wont boot, idk if it's because i cant seat it. My 770 gtx boots but not the 5700xt. It used to work but now doesnt. I even did bios downgrade to see if that was the issue. 5700xt works on other pc. What the heck do i do lol. It has full power but maybe windows rejects it?
Does fans spin when power on?
Does it display video at all?
sythen, you have a case right?
Do you get a warning light?
yes
and peripherals
yes
ram?
no
ah
No video at all lmao fans dont spit just led
pm me @jagged ember
Evga supernova g3 850w
You are sure power works?
Check cables on PSU and into GPU
Heck the cables into the PSU rq
christ prices are actually awful
Can windows block my gpu
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRV8vf
It only works on non asus board
DDU everything, see if it works
assuming you've got a PSU
Lmao i tried that too
@jagged ember ill pm you what i have
Go into BIOS, turn off CPU c-states, turn all devices down to PCIe 3.0
gpu i can't say what's a good deal because it's all bad deals
Reason: Bad word usage
pg13
Holy shiatsu was it gen 3
no swores
The card supports gen 4
It’s a problem with X570 and B550 boards right now and it might be a solution and no, the card does not
yes
how much is this computer in question
600 atm
You could unironically sell the top one for a grand these days
this HP computer has a better CPU, a much much better GPU, same amount of ram, same amount of storage, so you'll get like, triple the performance in gaming cause of it's 1650 super rather than RX 550, cause RX 550 really isnt much of a gaming card @little osprey
ok thank you
np
do you know if it will be easily upgradeable?
eh, prebuilts arent totally meant for upgrade, but i bet you could totally upgrade the graphics card inthe future
hello friends
system build for scythen i made, please fix
also it's missing a gpu lmao
haha my psu fan go rainbow light brr
and storage
oh kk
What’s there budget lol
If they just want to do 700 now then do gpu later for more would do 10600k and dark rock pro 4 probably
It’s like $85 for be quiet pro 4 and it’s black or 90 for the d15 and it’s tan so I don’t know for certain but I would think the noctua is better for cooling but just looks worse
It's quieter and cooler iirc
No pro 4 is def quieter
It’s only slightly cooler
I shall consult
As in barely
Pro 4 seems like the better deal
Ok whatever is cheaper then
Most people they would encounter at school would have absolutely no idea about noctua and not really care that much lol
I’ve tried flexing pc components it doesn’t work unless it’s a graphics card or cpu
Yeah
ehh if they hear a high number like 32 gb of ram then maybe
Idc personally
Well this list is 675 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4tkZDc
But it's not my pc
or like aorus elite b550 extreme gaming motherboard for gamers by gamers
Am regretting decision to get an AIO now lol
Did it explode
It didnt work 😔
Nah, The pump is really loud, pro 4 would cool better and better overclock, and not as ugly as tubes, and pro 4 was slightly cheaper
I was dumb
Of course my ram was slightly too tall for my AIO to be top mounted 
The case is also on the smaller side so that did play a part
Only advantage of AIO is able to see rgb ram better and can populate all slots with taller sticks
With large air cooler it can block of left most slot
They look nicer
Cleaner look for sure
I think custom loop would look much better than AIO cause you have the good looking parts (rad/fans and cpu block) but also get nice reservoir and cool tubing and fittings that can be changed to go how you want.
Yes
thank
Gammax then
gammax is p good
replace my stupid stupid stock cooler
Both are very comparable
Why’s that?
i unthreaded one of the holes on my backplate lmao
one screw won't go in no matter how far inside the hole it is
Oh no
it just pops right back out
so i was like, why not just go get a new cooler instead?
Yeah probably hard to get replacement back plates id imagine
i'll finally be able to run CTR 1.2
gpu backplates are so expensive
They are usually sold by the mobo manufacturer
oh
Or whatever company
lol
Those are custom usually o thought
i'd imagine so, yes
ye i thought so too
but i can't be sure
but i mean they should just keep a standard
like most strix cards have the same backplate right
but you know what i can be sure of? This segue to our sponsor
Depending on size of card
So like the 3060ti might not be the same size as the 3080/3090 strix
Who needs custom back plate when you have that sleek looking founders edition backplate
who needs custom back plate when you have cardboard
i swear if i get a 3060ti founders before july i will be a happy boy
that is the only card i will buy now
its my first time building a pc can anybody help me find a cpu
Sure
What’s your budget, what parts do you already have, if any
budget is 950 and my friend gave me some part suggestions
budget is 950 and my friend gave me some part suggestions
Let’s say 1k for math’s sake
k
What suggestions did your friend give?
here is what he suggested
but not that case i just put one to see the price of what it would add to it
Some pretty good suggestions but he clearly doesn’t realize the state of the current GPU market
Can you link that list please?
Wrong link
ok
k
It’s possible for me to bring it down if you like
yea sure
But that’s about the optimal PC for around that budget
can you bring it down just a bit and i will go from there
can you bring it down just a bit and i will go from there
Sure
is the EVGA XC3 3060 good
Yeah
ok do you think these will be in stock soon
yo
can i stream and play games on this?
what is the difference between a 2080 super and a 3080?
i genuinely dont know if the difference is worth it
k thnks so much
3080 is about 1.7x the performance, has 2 more gigs of (much faster) VRAM, and has second generation Ray Tracing cores and DLSS
like i was thinking about getting a 3070 but i saw the 2080 super and i know the 30 series is the newest but idk the difference
thank you
3070 is around the performance of a 2080Ti, also with second generation Ray tracing and third generation DLSS
3060Ti is 2080 super with, as mentioned, second gen RTX and 3rd Gen DLSS
do you no if they will be in stock soon
You just kind of have to catch one
k thnks
Your best bet is going to be the popular product drawing event by Newegg
do you think the 30 series is worth it?
ok thank you
or is the 20 series still good
I would be recommending one to this chap here if they weren’t
And 20 series is laughed at in comparison
okay so the 30 series is that good okay
Absolutely no reason to get a 2000 series card when you can get a 3000 series one
thank you
Check pins in #general-chat
For shuffle (popular product drawing event)
We call it shuffle here
ok thanks
what doers it mean when a cpu has intel graphics
It means it has integrated graphics
and what is the difference with a cpu that doesnt have it
like is there a performance difference
It means that you don’t need a GPU
Not to display video at least
It’s not a powerful GPU but it’s one that works
and it can scrape by in older or lower spec games
Back in the day, before dedicated GPUs got popular, every GPU was integrated
Or games on low settings
oooh okay thank you
so would you say in performance wise, which is better : Intel Core i5-10600K or the Intel Core i5-10600KF
They're the same performance wise
because honestly the integrated graphics isnt something thats that big since youre getting a gpu anyways with it
right?
the k version can display video and the kf can't
KF just doesn’t have integrated graphics
right
is it even worth to go for the 11th gen intel stuff
benchmarks dont look that great so far, hopefully they are a bit cheaper than 10th gen
thank you
Wut a coincidence
I have the gamers nexus video next to those 2
okay
Z490 AORUS ELITE is similarly priced but much better
but should i get a cheaper cpu? lowkey feel like its overkill
i mean
okay i appreciate that
you bought $250 worth of rgb fans
LMAO
i don't think saving money should be a consideration
the 10700KF is a fine pairing for the 3070 at 1080p
thats for aesthetic
okay thank you
is the MSI Z490-A PRO avaibale in white do you know?
it is not
maybe you could look at the Z490 VISION G if you want something with white accents that isn't garbage
the NZXT N7 Z490 is the whitest motherboard there is but i am unsure how good it is
yeah is aw that mobo but wasnt feeling it
i have a mostly white build
just went with all black mobo though
looks fine to me
why would i ever mind showing off my child
i added another fan on top of the vram and moved the figurine to the right but haven't taken a good pic of that yet
i ordered a 7" monitor today that i will put on top of the psu shroud in front of gpu to use as a decorative panel with animated wallpapers
why are the lian li so damnnnn expensiiivee
how much were theyu origninaly
like the vendor price
like $12 each
you gonna put a vayne splashart on it ?
nah
found this nice animated wallpaper
it has audio indicators at the bottom too
ooo
gonna put this on the third monitor and hide the taskbar
the animation is just simple rain effect but i really like the art
it looks nice
yeah it's gonna be really cool having a screen inside the pc to put whatever
and for much cheaper than getting one of those aios with small screen
lol
i kinda wanted to do that but all my cases were too compact for it
$70
especially now that i have no tg window
hm
technically no glass panel and having a side mounted fan is best for performance
but i can't resist spending too much money making my pc look pretty
yea having a tg window is a double edged sword lol
me like pretty
i lowkey spent a lot to make my old build look pretty
only reason i went with an aio was bc it helped make my build look less empty lol
i bought my aio because it has a pretty snowflake on the block and looks cool
it's totally overkill for my cpu
costs almost as much as my cpu
buying an aio for my ryzen 5>
yup
$130 360mm aio on $146 ryzen 5 3600x
lol
though tbf i was originally planning to upgrade to a 5800x
i got one for my 5600x
but i was gonna get a 5800x at first too
had an order for one on amazon, but realized i dont really need the extra cores anymore
i thought i would need to upgrade to avoid bottlenecking my 3080
tested it and was not the case
you running a 1440p monitor ?
this tbh
R5 3400g
ID-cooling se224 xt v2 argb
Tuf b450m pro gaemin
G.skill trident z rgb 2x8-3200
Team elite mp34 512gb
Wd blue 1tb 7200rpm
Seasonic core gm650 650w
Tecware Vega M case
Case comes with 3 Tecware Orbis F1 argb fans (idk if i rly should rgb an apu build tbh)
Viewsonic XG2405
Keychron K6 plast/rgb/red/hotswap
Viper mini
Corsair mm200 extended
I have zero hopes on being able to get a gpu anymore smh. Will just settle here ig
I'll also prob remove the rainbows too
Hard to light up no gpu build without being disappointed tbh
why do you have a 3400g to begin with?
So what? I'm still in a process of canvassing
It's hard to buy gpu and i'm not biting for one rn
maybe wait till they come back instock?
and? graphics cards arent only sold in the US
where you from?
Philippines
might aswell go with intel lol
Uh
in philippine money?
you use the Philippine Peso




