#building-and-recc-chat
hollow grail
wide estuary
need some help with my build if anyone can help
turbid blade
if i was a miner, I would invest in solar panels
little osprey
LOL
solar panels are horrible for mining
especially if you're doing it at home
only good "renewable" energy for mining farms is windmills
turbid blade
lol
little osprey
lmao
austere vale
I probably won't end up mining. Just more curious than anything. Just glad I have a good work and gaming beast again now tbh
still roostBOT
Bad__Music#2262 has been warned
little osprey
if calculation websites telling truth it looks worthy 🤔
austere vale
oh no, the s-word
Sausages?
potent portal
Solar is good for an average house, not the constant 600+ watts a mining rig will use
austere vale
Nice.
wanton cliff
still no match for gamezoid labs
This is factually false
There is no arguing
No opinions
Just false
hollow grail
wanton cliff
Lililabs is better
mental steeple
lililabs
wanton cliff
No contest
little osprey
🤔
little osprey
Solar is good for an average house, not the constant 600+ watts a mining rig wil...
rigs are almost always 800+ now
mental steeple
not even sure if lililabs are real
hollow grail
gaezoid labs is just a meme company
mental steeple
i have pictures to prove my datacenter exists
mental steeple
lililabs wont post any
little osprey
im on a quarter acre lot
turbid blade
Solar is good for an average house, not the constant 600+ watts a mining rig wil...
You should see the size of the hill below my house. It could power the neighborhood. I doubt a battery and 1400 watts would break the power budget
wanton cliff
Does lililabs have any social accounts besides discord?
hollow grail
no lol
mental steeple
we support lililabs 😂
dont need yo support
gamezoid labs has support from a variety of international investors
including south korea
and the government of lebistan
hollow grail
little osprey
You should see the size of the hill below my house. It could power the neighborh...
it very much would
potent portal
Solar is still too expensive per watt generated, go for combo solar/wind for maximum profit
little osprey
mining isn't gonna last long enough for you to cover the solar cost
mental steeple
it very much would
mando if i see you call the sn550 garbage again i will be mildly upset
turbid blade
it very much would
i'm curious, explain
mental steeple
tell me how many sq/ft of wd blue sn550s it would take to cure my chronic jaundice
little osprey
tell me how many sq/ft of wd blue sn550s it would take to cure my chronic jaundi...
garbage land
little osprey
monke
turbid blade
Tell me how many sq/ft of solar it would take to cover 1000W
I was hoping that was something you would tell me? but will do
mental steeple
bro the ssd has no cache bro i swear
thats what being dramless means bro it has no cache bro
mental steeple
I was hoping that was something you would tell me? but will do
potent portal
It's an average of 15 watts per square foot
viral ore
thats what being dramless means bro it has no cache bro
that bc ssd broke, he got no cash
little osprey
some carterPC 
was trying to tell me a pilot-e performed the same as a SN550
mental steeple
some carterPC <:brainlet:679874985522626634> was trying to tell me a pilot-e per...
saw
not true
but you called sn550 garbo
which it
ISN't SIR
little osprey
pffttt
mental steeple
it's completely fine for the impoverished users who can't afford dram cache bread with their ssd soup
mental steeple
garbage <:PogU:763120540059697212>
not as garbage as your brain when you say its garbage
OWNED
get rolled
mental steeple
rolled
wanton cliff
discord has chinese investors
He says on discord
little osprey
stinky
little osprey
He says on discord
im typing this on triple layer VM
Duh
not exactly easy to have internet friends without discord though 
mental steeple
ok pilot-e garbage
pilot-e isn't gartbage it has the name pilot
a pilot is the stay the course man
who knows the rules
a pilot knows what to do
little osprey
but what about the ones that didn't know how to land
turbid blade
Tell me how many sq/ft of solar it would take to cover 1000W
it's a south-facing hill, so let's assume there is sun for half the day.
the quickest number I found is 150 per square meter.
the fastest ASIC power consumption number I could find was under 1400 watts, but 1500 makes the calculations easier so let's say 1500.
that's 20 m^2. difficult for a roof to achieve, but very attainable for the hill below me.
My main concern is the cost of instillation, cause I'd pay full price for those panels to make sure the power they make is mine.
now if i was committed to mining, I'd be more interested in investing in panels as a long-term investment, but I'm not, so it's too steep a buy-in for me.
turbid blade
until the panels explode?
little osprey
No its because ethereum is moving to proof of stake very soon
wanton cliff
it wouldn't be long term
Plus free renewable energy (which you get tax cuts for) for as long as you have them up
turbid blade
and some companies are willing to buy your excess
turbid blade
the mining wouldn't cover the cost of the panels
right, that's what I said
turbid blade
ASICs don't work for ethereum
you still haven't explained why tho. Is etherium not hashing?
little osprey
ASICs
are
not
as profitable
GPUs are more power efficient for at home use
for what you're talking about you are gonna have to ditch the rigs after a bit and just use the panels
which would mean you would need to rewire the circuit breaker
which would be upwards of 5 grand
for how much power it would be making
Depending on the amperage
and the panels that you don't need are just gonna be sitting there deteriorating because you're not using that power
turbid blade
bro this is not how persuasive writing works, you keep restating your position instead of answering my question
I have already brought up the power investment issues and explained that that's what kills it.
GPUs might work better as a "well i have this thing that i use for other things but it can also make money when im not using it"
but my point is not about casual mining
my point is there is hardware that physically outperforms gpus
little osprey
bro this is not how persuasive writing works, you keep restating your position i...
sure
it outperforms
but it is not as efficient
that is the problem
little osprey
you have nowhere to sell those ASICs once you're done with them
its alot easier to have a ton of cheaper items that use less power for an overall higher profit than less high high power usage expensive items that would end up being less profit in the end
turbid blade
lol since when has making money been about what's good for the environment? Let the ASICs rot for all I care. burn coal, damn the planet, we can colonize another one and be like the evil alien race in a movie
wanton cliff
Oi
little osprey
ASICs are gonna make less money
wanton cliff
Screw you
little osprey
did you even read
little osprey
its alot easier to have a ton of cheaper items that use less power for an overal...
this
turbid blade
missed that one
little osprey
you spend less money for more profit
using GPUs
ASICs are only good for bitcoin
and they get outdated almost every year
ASIC farms are not good either because guess what
you would have to turn your garage into a warehouse
they create way too much heat and don't have fans built into them
desert vine
Thanks for the feedback.
hollow grail
yeah just follow that exactly and youll have a good build
if you really want 4 500gb ssds for some reason
turbid blade
so what's the hash rate and power draw for a 3070?
A good ASIC is the price of 6 3070s so if a 3070 is less than 233 watts while mining and has a more than 6th the hash rate, then yes, a 3070 is objectively more efficient
little osprey
so what's the hash rate and power draw for a 3070?
A good ASIC is the price of ...
62 hashrate 125W
3060ti is a better card for it
even cheaper for identical hash/power
tough gorge
I just installed that cooler 2 weeks ago so that won't be changing for at least a year
turbid blade
62 hashrate 125W
62 what? MH? GH?
little osprey
MH
turbid blade
also you wouldn't happen to also know the watt/hash would you?
little osprey
around 500
turbid blade
are you sure it's MH and not GH?
little osprey
yes
turbid blade
exactly
turbid blade
yes
little osprey
NOT ETHEREUM
turbid blade
money is money
little osprey
you have no brain dude
wanton cliff
Your brain is literally a perfectly smooth square
turbid blade
okay there is something important i'm missing here. how much less money can one make on bitcoin vs etherium and are etherium mining rates not hash dependent?
wanton cliff
^^^^
little osprey
ASICs for bitcoin you have to replace
every year
oh yeah
you also need industrial fans 20 feet wide!
a sufficiently large warehouse
and a couple dozen multi-million dollar windmills
solar is even worse for bitcoin farms
and don't go saying you can put this in a house
the electric system would be hotter than the sun
turbid blade
thank you for answering half of my question.
yes. replacing every year is not feasible. and a GPU can be resold so yearly replacements are relatively not a problem.
but on some of your points, you have backtracked.
I have explained with math that you do not need a giant solar or wind farm.
I have explained that the power consumption is 1350 watts.
The hash/watt is much higher.
I doubt a house would catch fire from 1350 watts.
I am not talking about running 12 of these things, just one
stoic island
btc just doesn't scale well for btc per cost until you get to huge farms
turbid blade
I am unaware of that
little osprey
thank you for answering half of my question.
yes. replacing every year is not fe...
that is a single ASIC
not hundreds
Whats the TH
turbid blade
right. like I said
little osprey
so i can tell you how much you can make
turbid blade
14
little osprey
THAT ONE MAKES 22$ A MONTH
LMAOOO
Acid baths are cool
6 3060tis make 1400
“Asics under go acid baths”
turbid blade
6 3060tis make 1400
due to an eth vs btc valuing thing?
little osprey
Wonder what type of acid
little osprey
due to an eth vs btc valuing thing?
yes?
not the value
how they work
bitcoin difficulty is far too high
its why you need to upgrade them every year
Has 3070 always been bad at mining
deft walrus
whats better removing 500 gb m.2 for my 16a0032dx and getting 1tb m.2 or adding 1 tb to ssd along with 500gb m.2
little osprey
while eth you can keep mining on the same GPU for years and years
frozen axle
so i ran that the chkdsk /r showed a windows cmd thing then just closed after some lines and the sfc /scannow did nothing like nothing evwn pops up
turbid blade
yes?
alright, well there in lies the problem. It's all mostly bubbles, trends, and horse races anyway. one day one is worth more and the next it's not.
sure eth makes 1400 now but once everyone is makeing 1400 off eth, it wont be nearly as profitable, that's the reason btc is so difficult now
it's like regular trading
and at that point options trading is much safer, more scalable, more profitable and requires very little buy-in and almost no up-keep
options trading can make you hundreds of thousands of govt.-backed currency a month off essentially just selling investment security to much bigger fish that can easily afford it.
little osprey
no its just bad ROI time
My electricity provider is a joke lol
desert vine
yeah just follow that exactly and youll have a good build
honestly was just gonna fill the drive bays in the front with them make it look a little more full. having to buy one part at a time. And i suck at saving up monies
little osprey
More electricty you use, kwh goes more expensive
little osprey
More electricty you use, kwh goes more expensive
they don't like miners
whats your kwh use
It was about 300
For the whole night
mines 88000 rn
idk why they're increasing yours
Lmao
Cali
Cali is god awful
oh yeah
Lol
just don't move to texas and vote for stupid people dread 😳
Aight lol
Ive made 2 dollars
wanton cliff
Dread
little osprey
For 5 hours lol
wanton cliff
Why is your name always so weird
little osprey
Why is your name always so weird
why do you not exist
wanton cliff
Damn got me there
little osprey
Why is your name always so weird
Why do you have a concrete basement
Imagine not making it out of wood
wanton cliff
Because it’s below water level
wanton cliff
little osprey
Nzxt having fires these days
Smh
My electricty options are both awful
Tou or tier
Time of use, charge more during certain time or tier and keep going up
wanton cliff
Electricity monopolies are annoying
little osprey
Sce is annoying
Southern California edison reeeee
Thomas edison would never allow such a thing
little osprey
Electricity monopolies are annoying
its because california
stupid people voted for stupid people
hollow grail
our local gov isnt too great yeah
little osprey
Cali people are stupid tbh
Why did i move from chicago to this hell
Its literally hell smh
Always on god damn fire
wanton cliff
Chicago has literally a whole ass lake of drinkable water right next to it (if cleaned a little bit)
little osprey
Chicago has literally a whole ass lake of drinkable water right next to it (if c...
I was in suburbs 20 miles from it
We got our water from michigian
Lake michigian kek
wanton cliff
Yep
wanton cliff
I live 50 meters from the lake
little osprey
Bruh
wanton cliff
I get that water lol
wanton cliff
Also too many fires in Cali
There was one fire in Chicago more than a century ago
And basically none since
little osprey
There was one fire in Chicago more than a century ago
Lol
Idk why we talk about chicago fires in cali history class lol
wanton cliff
We don’t even talk about Chicago fire in Chicago history class lol
little osprey
We don’t even talk about Chicago fire in Chicago history class lol
lmfao
our history class is aids
"The state of cali makes you learn this"
Lol
like you think i care?
wanton cliff
Reminds me of my English class
Like wtf is a gerund
I don’t even know
Not ever going to care either
stoic island
wha
wanton cliff
‘Wha’ what?
sharp temple
Do I really need the RTX 3060 if I currently have the GTX 1050 and play; Dual Universe, Dyson Sphere Program, Minecraft, Hydronere, Terra Tech?
little osprey
gusty abyss
you're playing those games on a 1050 already? Do you have any complaints?
little osprey
^
Only time rtx is good is if you want shaders etc
or something REALLY demanding
gusty abyss
a 3060 will be a huge performance bump, but "need" is a pretty strong word
potent portal
Raytraced Minecraft 🤣
little osprey
a 3060 will be a huge performance bump, but "need" is a pretty strong word
Need
Im gonna die without a 3090
heLp
Cardiac arrest bleh
potent portal
If it's performing well enough for you then there's no real need to upgrade
little osprey
?
little osprey
Is this the right place to ask for help fixing a problem I've run into?
hot totem
Is this the right chat to ask for help on upgrading a pc?
little osprey
Yeha.
Yeah
So I just replaced my motherboard, my cpu, and my cpu cooler, and now I'm trying to boot but it won't go past bios. It recognizes my two ssds as storage devices but won't recognize either as a bootable device
Was windows already installed on it?
Yes, I've been using this pc for a few years now
fully plugged in?
Also it might be the way it is set for boot partition
Ive seen motherboards that sometimes hate certain drives in a certain boot partition schemes such as gpt
I've never had experience dealing with partitions or anything, but I've triple checked everything is fully plugged in, I've also tried changing sata ports, using only the drive with windows, and disabling both fast boot and secure boot. None of it has worked
no idea 🤷♂️
boot mode can couse it 🤔
real flicker
MSI MPG A650GF 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply looking at this power supply to hopefully go with my 6800xt when its actually in stock aha
little osprey
Just tried booting an old hard drive with windows from another computer, wouldn't load that either. Do I need to install the drivers from the disc before it will boot to windows? My old motherboard didn't need to but I don't even have a disc drive to try
little osprey
MSI MPG A650GF 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply looking at this power supp...
Never heard of it
little osprey
Just tried booting an old hard drive with windows from another computer, wouldn'...
which mobo do you have
The MSI z490 a-pro
Not enough info
real flicker
whats up with gold aha
little osprey
You can get gold stamped on any psu
its dirt cheap to stamp it on.
just like the "80+ effeciency"
im not sure where is it on its bios but try to find something like boot mode its like UEFI or legacy
you just gotta have your psu match the standards and you can stamp it on easily.
Yep and they were decently knew.
My options are UEFI or RAID, should I try RAID?
real flicker
also has to be a trusted brand otherwise you might as well plug it into a potato
little osprey
Not true.
Corsair has trash psu lineups
CXM.
And its trusted.
...
Gigabyte made PSU's
some of those specific models caught on fire/had issues.
real flicker
if do enough research into them yeah youd find out they are trash hence why you find trusted ones
marsh kiln
Ok what is a good case for a computer I want running a ryzen 5 3600 and needs to have 2 full slot for gpu and I don't have the budget for a new cpu cooler and I want it to be portable
Has to be a itx case
little osprey
Raid boot mode specificly should be for a raid card.
Why would you use it with a boot card.
"RAID PCIE, Use with raid card, otherwise you may experience issues"
Anything with RAID in the name
should be used with RAID lol.
Well it's not like anything else is working, figured I'd try man
little osprey
implying gigabyte is a brand anyone should trust
No...
Also go to #general-chat someone said they'd take the vision lmfao
hollow grail
number one rule of gigabyte is dont buy gigabyte
hollow grail
gigabyte make a good product challenge
gusty abyss
I thought aorus stuff was usually okay at least
little osprey
gigabyte make a good product challenge
I feel bad for people who don't know how to put new thermal pads on a gpu lol
not only they going to void there warranty iirc. But they might screw up
hollow grail
evga is the only good board partner
little osprey
evga is the only good board partner
tbh thats a fact. idk about evga. never had a card from them.
just using a MSI Gaming X Trio, cause i actually could get it lol.
hollow grail
evga is excellent
my 980 died whike out of warranty
they answered my warranty claim
sorry we dont make that card anymore
we will send you something else
tfw they sent me their best 1080
free
and i still have the 980
and it works now
customer for life
gusty abyss
lmao dang
hollow grail
the 1080 is purring away in my mom's pc right now
hollow grail
and my evga 2080 has been perfect
little osprey
im sure i could get a 3080 with a 3070 msi gaming x trio+cash
or save up for a 3080
to have a 3080 and a 3070
hollow grail
gonna grab a 3090 from them once i have the $ and a need for a 3090
little osprey
gonna grab a 3090 from them once i have the $ and a need for a 3090
I have 34k in kollege funds
Brain idea
Spend 34k on pc parts
Buy 3090 for 1080p
and then ascend.
and you can use the rest for 3060ti and mine and make back your college fund
tawdry lance
That moment when you realize you forgot to turn off enhance pointer precision for two weeks
prime plover
My 4k monitor arrived. 😍 It is amazing.
tawdry lance
Nice
potent portal
You don't have to run 4k on a 4k monitor... 1440 works for games that are too demanding
little osprey
You don't have to run 4k on a 4k monitor... 1440 works for games that are too de...
im on 1080p, 60HZ.
Blender 3070
austere vale
I'm also still on 1080. Would like to get a new 1440 monitor soon
potent portal
Ditto. Now that my CPU isn't holding back my 2070 I need to upgrade my 1080p
little osprey
and like, i don't game as much anymore on it
3700x, and 3070. And atleast i do get decent fps in some games i still play
🤷♂️
lol. I don't think i'll see an improvement if i mostly use blender
Maybe for fps games
but i don't play those.
wide estuary
can anyone help me out with a pc build (actually building it rn)
tawdry lance
just ask away
wanton cliff
tfw they sent me their best 1080
I need to get (and not resell) an EVGA 3080 or something
hollow grail
true
austere vale
3700x, and 3070. And atleast i do get decent fps in some games i still play
The pc I just built has 3700x and 3070. Goes like a champ for me in games. First desktop in 13 odd years though so..
stoic island
@wide estuary ask any questions you got
little osprey
I mean, i used to be running sandybridge.
i5-2500
Released in 2011 lol
so cpu getting old
robust tide
Should I wait for all my parts or build as I go I can put my ram and storage into mobo already if thats fine
potent portal
Better to buy it and build it all at once
little osprey
@stoic island @potent portal Ty guys again for helping me with my ssd. Just messaging to let yall know I figured it out. I booted my pc on my existing ssd and then connect the second drive with usb. Opened up my disk manager made the second drive online from offline. An then I deleted the storage on the partition of second drive.
So it succesfully worked
Can anyone tell me ryzen 9 3950 vs intel i9-10850?
A game I like to play, r6, on the i9-10850 and the 3089 is 18% cpu bottleneck. Can anyone clear up bottleneck as far as learning it?
lyric thistle
stoic island
:)
jagged ember
little osprey
What about threadripper 
little osprey
^
stoic island
depends on gpu
little osprey
I mean at 1080p your still getting above 240 fps with either
Lol.
Try getting 240 fps with a gt 1030
tawdry lance
I would imagine that most people do not run a 1030 with either of those cpus
little osprey
Laughs in Titan Blower XP card
austere wagon
So i have a 650 watt power supply which should be plenty for everything i have which is a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU a 1070 Ti, 2 case fans, a tomahawk max something motherboard i forget the full name, and a 1 terabyte SSD but that shouldn’t take up much wattage if any yet i keep getting Kernal Power critical errors and my PC fans go super speed and my screeen goes blank and i gotta shut it down
Is it that I dont have enough wattage or a faulty power supply?
It only happens every so often usually when I’m playing high graphics games or run too many things at once
muted patio
Kernel Power simply means your PC shut down without a clean restart
It doesn't mean you have a power issue
I would download HWINFO64 and check your temperatures since you mention it only happens under a big load @austere wagon
austere wagon
So its most likely a temperature error, ok understood i thought that at first but then i saw the error and assumed power supply
charred compass
hi guys i have a question which cooler would be better originally i wanted to get the kraken z73 gif one but someone said to buy the corsair icue h150i
austere wagon
I plan on ordering more fans anyways
muted patio
Well, not most likely but it's something to check (the easiest to check)
If not temperature error, most likely a driver/software issue
austere wagon
Alright
muted patio
hi guys i have a question which cooler would be better originally i wanted to ge...
If you need RGB, the EK 240mm one is the best there is
placid rampart
this is true
muted patio
Arctic Freezer is top choice but no RGB
wise sorrel
Prebuilt help question #777
Is this any good? For a friend. Playing Ark1 and 2 when it comes out. Warzone. Velheim.
charred compass
thanks i’ll look into them rn
muted patio
Prebuilt help question #777
Is this any good? For a friend. Playing Ark1 and 2 ...
That actually looks decent at 1080p
wise sorrel
Nice
muted patio
The only concern is upgradability
It's Lenovo with no motherboard listed
They tend to use proprietary stuff
wise sorrel
How Long would this last in your opinion.
muted patio
The ram is a little slow at 3200 instead of 3600 but it should do OK at 1080p.
wise sorrel
Minus upgrade
muted patio
The 1660 Super is a little long in the tooth
For Ark 1 it should do fine
No way to tell with Ark 2
I'd expect med-high settings at 1080p with good fps
In 1-2 years a GPU upgrade will probably be needed
wise sorrel
Ok cool, ty my good sir
muted patio
YW
heady sand
I ordered this PCIe WiFi card (https://www.amazon.com/Cudy-WE3000-3000Mbps-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B082NZYDDM/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Cudy+AX3000&qid=1613881225&sr=8-2) and plugged the extra cable into the card leading to a USB header on my motherboard but my speeds are painfully slow does anyone have recommendations or fixes for this (about 2 mbps download and less than 1 up)
potent portal
And how far are you from the router? How many walls between you and router?
fleet portal
im currently running XFX RX 580 8GB CrossFire and im looking to upgrade and my budget is $700, any help would be amazing
pliant lake
if you are upgrading your GPU for $700 get a 3080, but there are stock issues @fleet portal
frozen junco
When windows manager takes more gpu power than your video game
muted patio
Task Manger for GPU useage is broken
final hound
Hey guys, just a quick question, Can I install nvme ssd to my current running system?
I just got the WD SN750 and would like to run it as an additional storage to my current SSD(windows) and my other hard drive and will use it specifically for gaming
muted patio
What motherboard?
pliant lake
you can as long as there is a available m.2 slot
final hound
MSI z490 gaming edge
muted patio
Some M.2 slots are SATA only, just an FYI
Yeah, for sure with that board
Keep in mind though it will disable some SATA ports when you install it
final hound
So i wont face any issues installing it? Because i heard some rumors saying I need to reinstall a new windows
muted patio
"SATA2 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA SSD in the M2_1 slot.SATA5 & SATA6 will be unavailable when installing M.2 SATA/PCIe SSD in the M2_2 slot."
If it's just additional storage, there's no issue
Just go to Disk management and allocate the space
muted patio
YW
wanton cliff
Damn, Vintage taking up all the support things
Can’t have crap on the Newegg server
wanton cliff
Heh
haughty furnace
Hey, guys. I try to find more information about Coolermaster “masterair” G200P that is it worth to put on ATX Motherboard or is for Mini ATX?
muted patio
For what CPU?
haughty furnace
The Ryzen 5 3500X
wanton cliff
3500x doesn’t exist
wanton cliff
3500 does but I don’t think 3500x does?
haughty furnace
It does exist.
wanton cliff
Goddamn China making me look dumb
haughty furnace
Lol
muted patio
if this fits, I'd take a Noctua over the Cooler Master https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-L9a-Premium-Low-profile-Cooler/dp/B075SG1T3X/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=Low+Profile+CPU+Cooler&qid=1613887614&sr=8-6
wanton cliff
^
haughty furnace
Anyway, does it goes on ATX or is this for only mini ATX?
muted patio
ITX
wanton cliff
Even smaller
haughty furnace
I seem some videos on YouTube that they all use it on mini ATX.
wanton cliff
Micro
haughty furnace
Oh, er. On micro motherboard.
muted patio
Are you looking for a cooler for an ITX board or ATX?
haughty furnace
ATX
muted patio
Got it
wanton cliff
Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua
haughty furnace
I just bought it, but I can return it (recipe) in case if does not perform well.
wanton cliff
Can’t remember the name of the cooler, dammit
wanton cliff
The one weird string of numbers and letters I can’t remember
wanton cliff
I concur with all these (for whatever my opinion is worth)
haughty furnace
The one you @muted patio just listed out?
muted patio
They're cheap and honestly fantastic
The Vetroo V5 kept a 5900X at 67C
Imagine what it will do with a 3500x lol
wanton cliff
Jay, huh? Well, a benchmark is a benchmark.
muted patio
Yeah I know but proof is in the numbers
haughty furnace
@muted patio oh just watched 10 minutes ago.
muted patio
Kinda hard to screw up a cooler test. it's not noise normalized but let's face it, noise normalized isn't real world use either
wanton cliff
Idc about noise at all
Some people do but I find it useless
Performance > looks/noise
wanton cliff
Aren’t those the ones Dennis got?
muted patio
HA!
wanton cliff
From LTT?
wanton cliff
It’s been less than an hour and I’ve already had to recharge my phone to max twice while using discord
Darn old iPhone 6s
haughty furnace
.......er.....I don’t think the vetroo v5 won’t work well on my motherboard the processor socket is good, but the connection....no good.
muted patio
connection?
wanton cliff
Why is that?
haughty furnace
3 pin to 4 pin
muted patio
Oh
haughty furnace
4 pin for the power
wanton cliff
EZ
muted patio
Just change the fan in the BIOS to DC mode instead of PWM
haughty furnace
.....my motherboard only have 3 pin pwn
muted patio
i THINK you can use 4 pin on 3 pin also, let me check
muted patio
Last year was CPU/MB/RAM, etc
wanton cliff
I also got a 32 gig RAM kit for VR
haughty furnace
Damn, you are lucky to get some good GPU. @muted patio
muted patio
Took me a month and a half
wanton cliff
I just got mine from Dallas lol
haughty furnace
For me, only got a decent 1050 ti. 😞
wanton cliff
Rip
muted patio
Ok, so you can run a 4 pin fan on a 3 pin header
no problem
Motherboard has DC fan control so it will work
haughty furnace
@muted patio really?! Thanks!
wanton cliff
My specs are
3800x
3070
32 gigs 3600mhz CL16 A-Die
TUF X570
Stock cooler
2x Noctua intake fans
2x stock phanteks exhaust fans
750w Phanteks AMP PSU
You two?
haughty furnace
.....gave me sec.
muted patio
haughty furnace
I just started purchasing a few components parts. Here is the list:
MOB: Asus b450-F
GPU: Cerberus 1050 IT
PSU: Montech Century 850w 80 Gold certified
Case: NZXT H510 Red/Black
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB (Got 3 of each)
CPU: Hiatus
Fans: EZDIY-FAB Moonlight 120mm RGB Case Fan 6 packs ( only need 4 )
M.2: Hiatus
RAM: Hiatus
Still need to purchase a gaming monitors. ( only need 2 ) Including a Gaming keyboard ( I already got a gaming mouse ) and that’s it.
muted patio
Wait, that board has 4 pin fan headers
haughty furnace
Wait!!
muted patio
Are you talking about RGB?
stoic island
Is it time to preach for Keychron keyboard again?
wanton cliff
Why do you need all that space, Vintage?
wanton cliff
Huh
muted patio
She's a photog
wanton cliff
Just cold storage?
muted patio
RAW images take a lot of space
desert gulch
for homeowrk
muted patio
I know, I know, NAS but I don't wanna yet
wanton cliff
lili is the only one who is gonna yell at you for that lol
muted patio
If I can't do ethernet I don't want a NAS and the house isn't wired for ethernet
wanton cliff
Unfortunate
My dad had this house built for us in 2008
So everything is brand new
haughty furnace
Sorry about that have to edit my comments for the fan case. ( not cooler CPU )
So, yeah that’s my listed.
wanton cliff
SSD?
haughty furnace
Uhh, do I need one? I’m planning to get a M.2
wanton cliff
I mean
It would be a hell of a lot faster than an HDD as a boot drive
It’s the difference between a minute or more to load windows and about 10 seconds or less
haughty furnace
Hmm.....I’ll see if I have some sata cables to my motherboard for now, I’m heading back to sleep. Since I have work tomorrow ( I means this early morning ) damnit I hate to wake at 5 am.
kindred kraken
What if I said I'm running my build which has a ryzen 5 3600 with a 12 year old graphics card until I can get a 3060ti 🤣
potent portal
I still have this tucked away for emergencies https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-5770.c250
uncut pelican
@twin spruce What are your specs
analog hearth
@twin spruce What are your specs
uncut pelican
:|
twin spruce
@uncut pelican @analog hearth 5900x, 6900XT, Aorus Master X570, 4x8GB DRAM @ 3600Mhz 16CL, RM1000x PSU and a ton of EKWB, AquaComputer and Radikult Watercooling components
analog hearth
:|
twin spruce
Didn't need the additional cores of the 5950 and the 5900 with a heavy OC in PBO2 on AEGIS 1.2.0.0 can really skyrocket the temps. Im sitting at 75°c load temps with a very aggressive overclock
twin spruce
I really enjoy it, but I know some ppl don't enjoy the maintenance. I enjoy it and it gives me a reason to work on my rig
analog hearth
i’d rather not get into custom water cooling. it scares me lol. don’t wanna have to do so much maintenance
it looks amazing though lol
wispy nest
hello
i want to build a pc. can you recomand me some components? the budget is 615 euros
pls
still roostBOT
TRY M1hay#4319 has been warned
warm swift
ay can i show you my RTX 3080 ranking and you tell me if im right or not? @muted patio
muted patio
If it's userbench, it doesn't really mean anything TBH
warm swift
If it's userbench, it doesn't really mean anything TBH
honestly its just some youtube video i saw and some guy just ranked all the 3080's
muted patio
Some guy?
muted patio
Never heard of them
Let's be honest here, unless you're going for max overclock or mining performance, any of them will be fine
main whale
Even Zotacs?
stoic island
Doesn't TPU do testing on most aib models too?
ah they do a good amount, not all
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-3070-twin-edge-oc/
muted patio
Even Zotacs?
Yes
Zotacs are fine if you're not looking to overclock
They're just a meme
stoic island
Even Zotacs?
Hey, take a look at that, that was one of the MSRP Zotac cards, and performed better than FE, only downside is a low vbios PL, and not even a hardware PL
main whale
Zotac should be feelin' proud of itself.
muted patio
Their customer support also tends to be kinda oof but the hardware itself is fine
stoic island
We can be here in lieu of Zotac CS >:D
muted patio
You gonna RMA it for them?
stoic island
nah, returns go through wegg tho
final hound
Folks, I installed NVME SN750 and Its not showing in windows, however, it is showing under device manager
final hound
Disk management is an app?
stoic island
It's a program in windows
stoic island
Aka. This thing
muted patio
It will show as Create and Format Hard Disk Partitions
final hound
yeah I'm there now but when I right click the device there is no allocate spaace
stoic island
No, you need to create new simple volume
muted patio
Yes
final hound
stoic island
See that big black box area at the bottom? Right click on it
Should be a "new simple volume" option
final hound
its grayed out
muted patio
What options are there??
final hound
just properties
stoic island
Might need to initialize first
muted patio
isn't that RAID tho?
final hound
to be honest I have no idea 😄
muted patio
Yes
little osprey
Best gpu for i7-10700k? after three shite prebuilts just gonna return and wait to build
stoic island
Depends on the budget, you should always try to get the best GPU you can afford with a decent system
little osprey
Budget is 300-500 depending on if I get my stimmy lmao
austere wagon
so vintage racer i tried to download the software you recommended which was HWINFO64, but it requires a business email which i dont have and when I tried to enter my normal email it kept asking for a business one
stoic island
Well, 3060ti should fit in there, 3070 if you get lucky with a best buy drop at MSRP.
muted patio
so vintage racer i tried to download the software you recommended which was HWIN...
wat?
stoic island
@austere wagon hwinfo64 doesn't need an email, you might've done the wrong version
muted patio
I think you downloaded the wrong one
little osprey
Thanks mate hopefully I get lucky and snag one I put up auto notifications for evga, best buy and newegg so here's hoping
austere wagon
ah ok thanks which one should i download it gives like 5 choices
stoic island
The installer from fosshub should work too
https://www.fosshub.com/HWiNFO.html
little osprey
Can I link a case and tell me if it's decent? I like the looks of it lol
little osprey
Phanteks Eclipse P350X
austere wagon
alright i downloaded it thank you
stoic island
little osprey
This?
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p350x-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16...
Yeah
stoic island
Can I interest you in this?
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-edition-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854097
little osprey
Can I interest you in this?
https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p300a-...
What's the difference this one better quality?
austere wagon
alright so i found it wattage is fine its definitely temp
I was looking into RGB fans what do you recommend
little osprey
It's cheaper too so why not, just liked the drip of that other case lol
I found RGB phanteks fans (3 pack) for reasonable price but idk if it's exactly the best you could get
uncut estuary
good morning people
austere wagon
i can tell you one thing it sure isnt wattage ive somewhat added most of the wattage up and it does not add up to 650
little osprey
Good mornin friend
muted patio
i can tell you one thing it sure isnt wattage ive somewhat added most of the wat...
Keep in mind that TDP ratings only apply to base clocks
austere wagon
true
muted patio
My 65W TDP 3700x will pull 120+ watts
austere wagon
I have one more question should my GPU fans be running constantly because they are off right now, im not running any games atm though
muted patio
A lot of newer GPU's have an idle fan feature
little osprey
Ya'll got any knowledge to share for a newbie builder? Maybe a few videos on yt or somethin? This is gonna be my first build kek
muted patio
So the temp has to get to 40-50C before the fans come on
austere wagon
its a 1070 Ti does that count as newer
ah ok that makes sense so when fans turn on of course the power spikes so I guess it could be related to power still
muted patio
Yes, some of those have an idle fan feature
austere wagon
because it really only happens when im running big games
muted patio
Ya'll got any knowledge to share for a newbie builder? Maybe a few videos on yt ...
Videos as in how to assemble?
little osprey
Videos as in how to assemble?
Yeah building and what to do after it's all built, sorry if I seem clueless I actually am
little osprey
I'm real excited to build though felt it'd be a nice little side project for me
Plus I know what kind of quality is going on lmao
little osprey
Thanks mate I appreciate it ^^
muted patio
What I mean by specifics
BIOS settings for example
Will be different depending on hardware you get
So take all of those with a grain of salt
little osprey
Gotcha my aussie friend helped me with parts he picked out a Gigabyte z490 aorus pro
the only thing I'm missing is a gpu so that'll take quite a while to get lol
muted patio
Yes, patience will be required for that part!
But the onboard Intel GPU might get you by for a bit until that happens
hollow grail
having igpu only is kind of a blessing for a bit
helps u find some banger indie games
little osprey
I mean I have a older rig with a 950 in it I was debating throwing that in for a bit but that'd probably be terrible lol, either way im okay with waiting after the three month debacle with prebuilds lol
I got a backlog of xbox one games to finish up anyways
austere wagon
So I forced a crash because I wanted to see what caused it basically I ran a high graphics game and my GPU wattage totaled around almost 400 or so
muted patio
3080?
austere wagon
No 1070 Ti
muted patio
wat
stoic island
whew
muted patio
how did you measure the wattage cuz that sounds oof
austere wagon
I used the app and ran the app well in game
stoic island
That's not possible with stock vbios I don't think
muted patio
That's unpossible
austere wagon
There were 3 things running at like 150
stoic island
~220w absolute peak
austere wagon
No it was only looking at my GPU wattage
stoic island
what
stoic island
I'm gonna guess it's 3 sensors reading 150w and you're just adding them up ?
austere wagon
Ah probably
stoic island
Because 150w makes a lot of sense, considering that chart from TPU testing
austere wagon
Ok I’ll just try to screenshot before it crashes of entire thing
stoic island
take a picture/video, that'd be more reliable in looking at it
muted patio
more interested in temps as a cause for the crash than wattage TBH
stoic island
heh, usually temps just make game crap from throttling, dunno about crashing
muted patio
Well, they have ae 650W psu and are crashing
650W should be more than enough for what they have
Base issue is system crashing
Personally I think it's a driver/software issue or faulty 1070TI
stoic island
Yea, I think that's still top issue
it's possible something is crapping and it's drawing too much power from PCIe slot still though
stoic island
lol
muted patio
BSODS were all over the place
kernel System, WDFILTER,
too many to name
Well, it was either that or the EVGA CLC software
Drove me nuts
austere wagon
im a complete moron how do i screenshot my full screen without using the print screen button that i dont have
wait nvm
nope still didnt work
austere wagon
ah finally ok im gonna force crash now
stoic island
@muted patio what's the windows snipping tool shortcut? I don't use it so I can't remember
wanton cliff
im a complete moron how do i screenshot my full screen without using the print s...
Snipping tool
austere wagon
yee i found it
muted patio
windows key shift s?
austere wagon
thank you
wanton cliff
windows key shift s?
That’s it
little osprey
New build question - I am building the following machine:
ASUS Z390A Motherboard
Intel Core i3 CPU 1151 (i3-8350K)
DDR4 2x4 GB 2666 MHz (on the QVL list)
Kingston SSD 250GB Drive
Corsair HX1200 PSU
Graphics Card - GTE 1070
Here is the issue. On first boot, I cannot get it to BIOS. It freezes on the yellow memory light.
At power on, the machine flashes the red light on and off (CPU check) and freezes on DRAM.
Wondering if anyone has had this issue. ASUS support has been less than helpful. DRAM is seated correctly and I have tried two different types that are on the QVL, also tried one chip and both. On the machine it has the following troubleshoot lights, in this order:
Red - CPU
Yellow - DRAM
White - Graphic Card
muted patio
Um
wanton cliff
Why is the psu 1200w
muted patio
Which EXACT i3 CPU?
little osprey
crypto miner
muted patio
need the model number
because not all 1151 CPU's are the same
Intel is poopy like that
little osprey
Updated in original message
wanton cliff
Might not even be a 1151 compatible i3
stoic island
Generally, the issue the debug LEDs point to is the last light that stays on, so does the white light stay on in the end?
wanton cliff
8350k
little osprey
No cant get to the white light - yellow lights stays on
muted patio
What slots are the RAM in?
stoic island
Interesting
muted patio
Could be board or CPU TBH
little osprey
i3-8350k LGA1151
stoic island
Have you tried to reset cmos?
muted patio
Since the memory controller is on the CPU
stoic island
Quick instructions for battery method if necessary:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html
austere wagon
That was very odd I was checking wattage, and temp and nothing seemed off the charts weird
GPU temp at the hot spot maxed out at like 70
stoic island
Likely not the issue then, you could make sure temp is not the issue with furmark if you wish, but otherwise, it's most like some kind of driver or software issue.
austere wagon
What would be the software issue
muted patio
Drivers
stoic island
Other software screwing you over, like how Vintage was having issues with LG_Updater.exe or whatever
muted patio
What motherboard is this?
stoic island
it's a piece of crap to find if it's random software screwing you over, so just try drivers
update drivers, then DDU and reinstall as necessary
muted patio
What BIOS version does it have?
I see a new BIOS that lists this: - Improved system boot up time
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.
austere wagon
I’m unsure where do I check BIOS
muted patio
let me check something
austere wagon
I’m completely new to PCs so that’s why I’m so clueless I’ve barely ever messed with any settings
So I went to my device manager
muted patio
taht won't tell you anything we need
austere wagon
And there are 3 things that have caution symbols
muted patio
yeah, missing drivers
austere wagon
PCI devices
muted patio
Hold up
austere wagon
Ok
muted patio
Download and run this: https://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.95-en.exe
Go to the motherboard tab
It will list BIOS version there
Let's check that and then we'll get you drivers
austere wagon
It’s asking me to purchase stuff
stoic island
uh, just click the download
muted patio
yeah
stoic island
no purcahses necessary
muted patio
Click the DL link I posted
stoic island
the paypal thing is for donations
muted patio
And then the big Download now button
austere wagon
It says 3 out of date drivers which I found
muted patio
Yes I know
we'll get to those
Check BIOS version in the Motherboard tab
Once you run CPU-Z
austere wagon
Hmm it keeps bringing me to a buying page
muted patio
wat
Click the link I posted
Then the big Download Now button on the left
big Pink Download Now button
austere wagon
Sorry it brought me to random other website and I missed it
Umm it brought me to notepad
austere wagon
Ight doing so now
muted patio
i forget about the ReadMe opening after install
austere wagon
I went to bios
muted patio
Ok, that's fine
I'll post the driver links here you need
They'll come as a ZIP file, right click them and EXTRACT
Then run the program inside the folder that gets made
austere wagon
alright
austere wagon
so many windows open lmao
muted patio
no windows should open
It should just download the file
What browser are you using??
austere wagon
Google Chrome
muted patio
So am I
When I click those links, it literally just starts a download
no windows open
austere wagon
I closed all my stuff and it asked to restart
stoic island
just a download for me too
austere wagon
I had all my windows open prior
Downloading second
with the second link what should i open i extracted the main folder but what after that
austere wagon
I take it thats the one labeled set up
austere wagon
alright onto the last link
The last one didn’t ask for a restart is that normal
Am I done or is there another step
muted patio
Yes
woeful torrent
can anyone tell me if this fan controller is the same one that comes in my case https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali485/p/N82E16883360080?Description=3080&cm_re=3080-_-83-360-080-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali460/p/N82E16883360045?Description=3080&cm_re=3080-_-83-360-045-_-Product
I bought a new prebuilt PC on newegg, and the fan controller power cable melted in 6 hours
Newegg tech told me to come here and wont help me
muted patio
install all of them then reboot
austere wagon
They are all installed and I restarted my computer as I got them because they asked
austere wagon
So I should be good now?
muted patio
Potentially