#building-and-recc-chat

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mortal garnet
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xduoo link is nice too but double the price

feral bobcat
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i hate iphone

stoic island
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@feral bobcat I have one so, it's not crazy good, but it's definitely pretty nice for the price.

feral bobcat
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but using imac

mortal garnet
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you dont need a dongle with ur40s, it jus helps since the dongle tends to have a better dac than onboard option

stoic island
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(also phones like my pixel 4 without a jack)

mortal garnet
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i would jus buy ur40s alone to begin with, if you like them then invest in the k5 pro and some more expensive cans

feral bobcat
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thank you all

mortal garnet
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np

feral bobcat
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guys what review site is unbiased

stoic island
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none

mortal garnet
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my case finally delivered

stoic island
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:P

feral bobcat
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of course hardware

mortal garnet
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and audio review is hard

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bc its all preference

stoic island
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Audio reviewers are all biased in some way since it's preference

mortal garnet
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and a lot of reviewers tell you to buy everything

stoic island
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and there's stuff like I believe it was audio science? That really disliked schiit as a company

mortal garnet
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like very few audio reviewers say dont buy this

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etc

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for 250 and lower

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pretty much its 6xx for mids, details and treble

stoic island
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@feral bobcat unless you mean computer hardware reviewers? Those are different, but audio reviews are to be taking with a grain of salt

feral bobcat
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what about gsm arena

turbid blade
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the best audio reviewers present measurement data with the tone of "this is what the product is/does, if this is what you prefer, go for it"

feral bobcat
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do you trust it for phones

mortal garnet
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4xx nice overall (same with 400i)

stoic island
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who

mortal garnet
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dt880s are the only beyers worth buying in that price range if you can stand the treble

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k371/61 are the best close back options under 200

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and cal, ur40s and porta pros for sub 50 price range

muted patio
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Audio is entirely subjective rather than objective performance. NO one will be unbiased since everyone likes a different kind of sound.

feral bobcat
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high trebs damages your ears so fast

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no

mortal garnet
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beyerdynamic is known for aggressive treble

feral bobcat
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kill beyer company

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i prefer bass over trebles

mortal garnet
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some ppl put a piece of tissue or fabric in the inner cups to help with it

feral bobcat
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what about audio technica

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british like it so much

mortal garnet
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overhyped

stoic island
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akg k371 should be nice

mortal garnet
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yup

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might be a bit bass heavy for some people though

stoic island
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after the pandemic passes, I wonder if there's anywhere I could go to test a bunch of headphones so I know what I actually like/want :P

feral bobcat
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akg?

stoic island
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Yea

feral bobcat
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part of harman kardon samsung

turbid blade
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currently keeping my eye on the diy market because I want to build a mini itx server/decent gaming rig (980ti if mine survive), but that probably wont be until AM5.
anyone have any advice for itx builds, in general?
As the market currently stands, I'm looking at getting the H1 once its riser gets properly fixed.
I'm also thinking of going air cooling (since I'm lazy) and getting some small Noctua cooler (since I'm also a Noctua stan).
I'm not interested in going nuts for the build, but I'm accustomed to good performance.

mortal garnet
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h1 is a bit on the larger side

stoic island
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@turbid blade tbh, I'd reccomend Coolermaster NR200p

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it's just a nice itx case :P

mortal garnet
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building ina nr200 rn

turbid blade
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I'll check it out but im not looking to go suuuper small. I'd like some room to work

feral bobcat
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i had 2 cooler master cpu cooler & both of them was terrible

mortal garnet
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https://ssupd.com/products/meshlicious

ssupd
Meshlicious

Pre-order on newegg.com Meshlicious is a combination of MESH and Delicious. There’s so much mesh that your mouth will water. Breathable, mesh panels lets you savor the airflow and minty temps. Mesh panels and well ventilated 14.6 liters in size Support for regular size hardware Easy to assemble in 6 easy steps The upgr

stoic island
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And yea, Noctua L9i fits in every god damn itx case, and then you can fit up to like a u12s in a nr200 I believe

mortal garnet
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get that case

feral bobcat
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their psu too

mortal garnet
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that case is the new standard for itx thermals

stoic island
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Oh yea the meshilicious is going to be out in a bit

feral bobcat
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i dont know about their cases

stoic island
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CM cases are great

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CM PSUs eh

mortal garnet
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cm is on par with phanteks but a bit behind imo

turbid blade
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I care more about thermals and aesthetics than size, that said if there is a case that rides that line better than the H1, I'm happy to hear about it

mortal garnet
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case wise

stoic island
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they do have MWE gold in terms of PSUs

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but the rest of the lineup is eh

mortal garnet
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that case has mesh panels on pretty much all sides

feral bobcat
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what about thermaltake core p5 tg v2

mortal garnet
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thermals on it will be no problem, in fact some reviewers already have it

stoic island
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I'm waiting to see meshlicious pricing

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core p5 is a open air case isn't it?

mortal garnet
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ill take a pic of my nr200 once i get my motherboard in it

hollow grail
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thermaltake

feral bobcat
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yes

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i love open cases

stoic island
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why

hollow grail
turbid blade
mortal garnet
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thermal wise its the best rn

stoic island
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tbh I don't like the meshlicious' shape and look lel

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looks annoying to transport

hollow grail
stoic island
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love the mesh everywhere concept tho

hollow grail
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i hate mesh everywhere

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air should be directed through the front and to the back

feral bobcat
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opens are very easy to build in future components

hollow grail
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only

stoic island
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yea, personally I like more controlled airflow too

hollow grail
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open cases are so dumb

stoic island
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but mesh everywhere in terms of top rear front bot is what I want

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Open = dust

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that's all I have to say

feral bobcat
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open cases are best for rgb

stoic island
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nah

hollow grail
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i like very controller airflow for my systems

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and no

stoic island
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open cases suck for rgb imo

hollow grail
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open is best for looking like an idiot tho

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if ur into that

feral bobcat
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& for water cooling

stoic island
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I love say front of a TD500 mesh, that rgb is great

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water cooling on open depends

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mounting seems lacking

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doesn't p500a fit 420 front 360 top?

hollow grail
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yeah opens are just dumb 99% of the time

turbid blade
feral bobcat
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open cases are open: you can do anything you want

mortal garnet
stoic island
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@feral bobcat my opinion is if you want a open case, don't have a case >:P

feral bobcat
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3 meter gpu, no problem

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😄

hollow grail
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if u want an open case just use a test bench

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at least that doesnt make you look as stupid

feral bobcat
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not that open

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semi open

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i like azza pyramid but

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i cant fit 3080 on it

hollow grail
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rackmount chassis>>>>>>>>>>>>

mortal garnet
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i forgot

stoic island
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100$

mortal garnet
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ooo

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lian li 215 is like 80

stoic island
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I always preach td500 mesh :P

mortal garnet
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thats my new go to recommendation for builds now

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have you seen the 215

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pretty epic

stoic island
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imo, MX410-mesh-g rgb for low end, td500 mesh mid, p500a high

mortal garnet
stoic island
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lancool 215 was really good on paper for me, but then the price is off for me

earnest olive
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oh my god

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someone paid $600 for a gtx 1650?!

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i'm SENT

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GOODBYE

stoic island
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if it's 60$, I'd recommend it

earnest olive
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i have left the mortal realm

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👻

stoic island
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@earnest olive I'm not surprised by any of it after ryo sold his vii for 1600$

mortal garnet
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@turbid blade

feral bobcat
deep skiff
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gpu prices stonks

mortal garnet
earnest olive
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i mean

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radeon vii is a better mining card than 3080

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and 3080s are selling for that much on ebay

mortal garnet
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upside down oops

earnest olive
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it's less ridiculous than a 1650 for $600

feral bobcat
deep skiff
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r7 is like bad every other way tho lol

stoic island
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:P

earnest olive
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yeah but the people buying them are buying them to mine

stoic island
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dunno, 2 year old 700$ msrp card selling for more than 2x MSRP is a yikes in my book

deep skiff
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im just happy somebody bought my 1070ti for 450 lol free upgrade

earnest olive
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O_O

stoic island
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lol

earnest olive
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i got offered 2 1080s for 300 each and declined

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xd

turbid blade
# mortal garnet

What am I looking at? Is the mobo mounted to the floor of the case?

muted patio
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Yes

earnest olive
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i sold my 1080ti for 500, bought a 1060 for 125, sold it for 175, bought a 3080 for 770, have mined $250 with it so far

feral bobcat
stoic island
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well, side of the case

mortal garnet
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with all the panels off and mobo installed

stoic island
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@mortal garnet tbh I know it's big in specs, but it was bigger than I thought lel

earnest olive
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so i have currently profitted $30 off of upgrading my 1080ti to a 3080

hollow grail
stoic island
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nr200 wise

mortal garnet
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yea i was expecting smaller

hollow grail
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i was gonna say "ill sell u a 1080 for 1200 since it's twice as good"

mortal garnet
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but part compatibility with it is op

hollow grail
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but i was scared hed actually buy it keeeek

earnest olive
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lili

hollow grail
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yes

earnest olive
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if you can get 1200 for a 1080 just take it

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lmao

hollow grail
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lmfaoooooo

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it would have been worth the ban

earnest olive
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i'd miss you lili

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ily

hollow grail
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❤️

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fr tho if someone here paid me like $1200 to shut up forever i 100% would

turbid blade
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@mortal garnet nooooooooo the nr200 is just 2mm too small for the nhd15. so close, yet so far.
not that i would need/get an nhd15 for itx lmao

warm swift
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@earnest olive do you know how to choose psu extension cables?

turbid blade
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im thinking of going with the meshlicious because I like the aesthetics and size better; tho, im a bit worried about air cooler clearance and gpu fan suffocation, particularly because I would probably deshroud any gpu I put in and ziptie noctuas to it instead

mortal garnet
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I'm running an ek aio on my build

deep skiff
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optimum tech has a nice review on the meshlicious

turbid blade
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Bruh its company is a daughter company of lianli?? What's with lianli's cases, they've been so on-point lately

deep skiff
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yeah its a daughter company

desert gulch
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yo @mortal garnet the equalizer thing is just making me restart my pc

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its not actually downloading

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on either of my drives

muted patio
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It's not a program tho

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It won't really show anything after you install

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When the system has rebooted, the APO should be active. This will only be noticable by a small reduction in volume and a mild low frequency boost, because this is what the example configuration file specifies.

turbid blade
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I think the mesh panels on the meshlicious would be identical right? That would make machining so much easier for them. If that's true, then id rather install an AIO, turn the PSU around and and put the TG panel on the CPU side since it'll be prettier than a deshrouded 980ti

desert gulch
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ahh i see

warm swift
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question which are the better fans, QL120 or LL120?

severe axle
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ll has slightly higher airflow

desert gulch
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i think ql look better imo

paper jay
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Yo is offerup safe

warm swift
desert gulch
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sometimes

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also vokon ql has rgb on both sides

severe axle
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ql if you are getting an o11

warm swift
desert gulch
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thats ql

severe axle
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otherwise not worth it imo

desert gulch
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thats ll

warm swift
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is the rgb on QL brighter and better than the LL?

desert gulch
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so rgb on both sides on ql

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idk

warm swift
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alright well thank you so much

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the ql does look pretty nice so i think ill be getting that, but if i couldnt ill get the LL which is still good

paper jay
desert gulch
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lol

still roostBOT
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MildZinc#5177 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

paper jay
desert gulch
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lol its pg13 filter here

rancid lodge
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2021 Q1 is just that bad for the hardware industry

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I got an old EVGA 1050 I need to sell, and fast cause of pascal being brought back into production

muted patio
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Rumors

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Nothing more or less

rancid lodge
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really? I thought they'd actually started producing them again

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better for me ig if it is a rumor

muted patio
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Just a rumor

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I mean, even if they DID start it back up again, most likely they would only be sold to OEM's for inclusion into cheap prebuilts.

paper jay
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Is $250 good for a 1070 FE

sacred magnet
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Yea

paper jay
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Alright

sacred magnet
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if u don’t mind spending 100 more 3060 is gonna come out

rancid lodge
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yeah, tbh I don't even want to try to grab a better GPU rn, better off trying to hunt down a 5900x, the GPUs are just far worse rn

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but I totally need to sell my old 1050 while the listing prices are higher

sacred magnet
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The whole market for gpu’s is literally 🐕 💩

rancid lodge
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yeah

sacred magnet
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I have a feeling it’s gonna stay like that for atleast another season

rancid lodge
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that's why I'm just gonna take my radeon XFX 580 from my old build and slap it in my new build and eventually replace it with a 3080

paper jay
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Also if the seller on eBay has no reviews should I avoid buying from them

sacred magnet
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I’m building similar so I’m curious

rancid lodge
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I got 32 GB 3200 CL16 gskill ram last week, and I'm trying to grab a 5900x

sacred magnet
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That’s gonna be a monster

rancid lodge
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got all my components earlier today, except for the case and of course the annoying to get 5900x

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yea

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especially once I get a 3080 in it but that'll prob be 2021 Q2-Q3

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for now my old 580 does a good job

muted patio
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Mmm, if you're going 5900x, try for 4000 mhz ram

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3200 is a bit on the slow side

rancid lodge
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Yeah, I was considering 3600 but

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3200 was on sale

earnest olive
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3200c16 is ultra budget bin stuff

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you got 5900x money

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you can afford the best

muted patio
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Yup

earnest olive
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i put 3200c16 in builds that cost $300 total

rancid lodge
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Yeah I cheaped out a bit on it

muted patio
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Don't hamstring the 5900x lol

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FEED IT!!!

sacred magnet
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I’m trying to buy any of the new 3000s gpu’s but I want fe edition and it’s never In stock

rancid lodge
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shoulda gotten 3600 but 3200 was just on sale sooooo. Should be fine with 3200

earnest olive
warm swift
rancid lodge
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running my i5 on 2133 8x2 ram so

muted patio
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That's Intel

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not AMD

rancid lodge
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true

muted patio
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There's a difference lol

inland parrot
sacred magnet
rancid lodge
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still 3200 should do me fine.

inland parrot
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Hey is this the right way for the cpu cooler fan

muted patio
rancid lodge
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mhm

sacred magnet
muted patio
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Plujs if you downclock, you can tighten the timings

rancid lodge
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for a 5900x its pretty much moderate

muted patio
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Not for Ryzen. Ryzen thrives on bandwidth

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Difference between 3200 and 3600 is 5-15 FPS depending on the game

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Should be more with 4000

rancid lodge
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Yeah, but regardless it won't bottleneck me too badly in most cases so I kinda just settled for 3200 lol

sacred magnet
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Can I have 16gb of ram can I get another 16 from a different brand and have it work ???

rancid lodge
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My monitors are also only 60hz so

sacred magnet
rancid lodge
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well then I wouldn't have a dedicated graphics card lol

sacred magnet
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Well when u get 3080 I mean

rancid lodge
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mhm

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I have two rn

earnest olive
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@sacred magnet naw it does 3600

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even bottom of the barrel b450 mobos will usually do 3600 if the cpu can

muted patio
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I thought it said B460 LMAO

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oops

earnest olive
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times are changing

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b560 spotted doing 4200mhz+ ram

muted patio
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Ye

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B460 won't do 11th gen anyway

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Poopy Intel

rancid lodge
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4200mhz ram 👀

earnest olive
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of course, intel had to say "screw you" one last time for market segmentation

rancid lodge
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it is the intel way

turbid blade
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they'll fix themselves eventually. like any company, it will just take 5-10 years

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at which time, competitors will be in need of fixing once more

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companies frequently go through phases of learning and unlearning

austere herald
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has any one heard/used this AIO ? DEEPCOOL Gamer Storm CAPTAIN 360X WHITE, RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, White LED Waterblock, 360mm Radiator, Anti-Leak Technology Inside, 12V RGB 4-Pin Motherboard Control, TR4/AM4 Compatible

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trying to save some cash but i dont think thats going to happen , ive been looking at the LIAN LI GALAHAD AIO 360 and the EVGA CLC 360 400-HY-CL36-V1

potent portal
rancid lodge
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probably better to just go with one brand unless you know two will work together

potent portal
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But how would you know without trying it 🤔

muted patio
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Get the galahad. Evga clc has crappy stock fans.

wise sorrel
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Anyone else seeing alot of these ryzen 5000 have high failure rates. Is it something to worry about

austere herald
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the lian li is better ?

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dont care about looks as much as i do about quality

stoic island
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Ek aio and freezer ii are the other 2 options, all top tier performance (above clc, unless you want a jet engine next to your ears)

austere herald
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na im good on having an air port in my office

stoic island
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If looks are not important, Freezer ii usually offers the best performance for a very good price.

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Ek aio and galahad are options for when rgb is 'necessary' or when freezer is out of stock

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(out of your options, galahad, but if you're in a position where Freezer ii is at a lower price than galahad, go Freezer ii)

austere herald
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look at the specs now

stoic island
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I'd point you towards testing if possible for the performance.

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GN is a good source:
https://youtu.be/2FTtBHKMOAM

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austere herald
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ya ive seen this guy

stoic island
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Galahad review includes freezer ii numbers, and linked it because galahad came after freezer ii. If you're curious about the quality, defer to the org freezer ii review.

austere herald
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i have him and jays 2 cents and llt

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hardware unbox is cool too

stoic island
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And do note, I believe Arctic is now shipping with new mounting (as explained in the recent Arctic freezer ii 420mm review), so the criticism he had about "needing 3 hands" to mount it may be out of date.

austere herald
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ya the dual mounts dont work as well as the quad mounts

little osprey
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oh

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wtf

stoic island
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The original 'issue' was that the back plate isn't secured when you install it, so it would move around, and you needed someone, or something else to hold it down while you screw it in

austere herald
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the artic is going for a49 atm on ne

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149*

stoic island
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For 360mm? What about galahad?

austere herald
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and that the 360 aio

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the ll is 159 atm in white for the 360

stoic island
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Are you in the US?

austere herald
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yes

stoic island
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Ah, freezer ii went out of stock at the original price

austere herald
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so get the artic 2 ?

ripe wedge
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thats a good aio

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not flashy or extremely pretty but does really well

stoic island
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Also, I believe freezer ii 360mm is 150$ on Amazon with free shipping

austere herald
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im stuck between the 2 atm

stoic island
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And at this point, it's about if white aesthetics is worth 10$ to you

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If you're not going for a white build or don't care, I'd buy the freezer ii

austere herald
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the case i have is the asus tuf GT501 White Edition

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ok so i put the 2 together

stoic island
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I'd say galahad if newegg is the only option, I don't like 3rd party sellers no matter what

austere herald
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not sure what 0.3 stone is for db

stoic island
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Just ignore those specs

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Not comparable

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Different manufacturers have different testing methodology

potent portal
wise sorrel
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@potent portal ty

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I saw a few articles and was worried there haha

potent portal
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That's mostly DOA rates from what I saw too, and I'm sure half of that is user error or insufficient cooling

cerulean trellis
potent portal
cerulean trellis
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So yes?

potent portal
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Yes

cerulean trellis
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Ok thanks

little osprey
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can someone put a pc parts i need for my intel pc build?

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my budget is $600

still roostBOT
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cruz#5857 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

uncut pelican
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Could someone recommend some ram that is under 42mm

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And below 80 bucks

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Its for an intel build

potent portal
uncut pelican
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yes

velvet isle
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What do u guys think of my parts list

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hollow grail
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make pcpp

velvet isle
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Thats not helpful

ripe wedge
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use this and put it together up there

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easier

uncut pelican
ripe wedge
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also that crucial m.2 isnt specified which model

potent portal
ripe wedge
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they have many models

potent portal
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I found some too lol

uncut pelican
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Those are the ones I had

mortal garnet
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if my pc boots it means i dont needa flash bios right

potent portal
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Not necessarily, a BIOS update will usually increase stability and give new features

mortal garnet
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yea im aware, jus curious bc apparently b550 doesnt support new ryzen out of the box

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but i jus turned on my pc for like 10 sec to see if itll boot or not

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since it did that means im good right

potent portal
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What board do you have and what BIOS version?

mortal garnet
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b550i aorus ax or some

rancid lodge
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does it have bios flashback

mortal garnet
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and i didnt get to run setup, i jus wanted to see if i would get anything to display while plugging it in

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yea it supports it

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but in order to flash im p sure i have to uninstall cpu ram etc

rancid lodge
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yeah

stoic island
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no

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not necessary, but good to do if it doesn't work

rancid lodge
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My board won't update with the RAM installed

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it's a x570 though

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so

stoic island
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It can usually flash without uninstalling, but uninstalling stuff is good since it doesn't like to do so sometimes

mortal garnet
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so basically i jus plugged in my and turned it on for like 10 sec since i hve no cooler installed

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and it told me to choose boot drive or some

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i have a usb with windows on it so ill do that later

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but that means im good to go right

potent portal
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If it has BIOS version F13a you're good, that's the latest.

stoic island
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ye

mortal garnet
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can you launch bios without having os installed ?

potent portal
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Yes you can

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Hit delete as it boots a few times

mortal garnet
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ok ill try to check super quick

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since im running with no cooler as of now

ripe wedge
rancid lodge
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I just got my Asus tuf gaming x570 pro today and I still need to check what bios version it has although I'll probably do that once I actually get my CPU lol

ripe wedge
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first of all you should switch the ssd

potent portal
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Don't run it without a cooler, even in BIOS

ripe wedge
#

the p2 is garbage

slate dock
#

hey all, want to build a pc any tips or can someone help me budget?

stoic island
#

where's the gpu

mortal garnet
ripe wedge
#

@velvet isle ill redo your list real quick

#

whats your budget

stoic island
ripe wedge
#

$1k?

velvet isle
#

1.5k

stoic island
#

@ripe wedge I assume they have GPU or have some kind of plans for GPU?

ripe wedge
#

oh yeah 3060ti

austere herald
#

ok i got the LL 360mm rad

potent portal
#

It probably won't pass POST without a cooler plugged in, it'll just throw a fan error

ripe wedge
#

they forgot to add it to the list

stoic island
#

galahad nice

austere herald
#

thanks for the help guys 🙂

stoic island
#

@potent portal usually posts, just screams at you in bios

#

doesn't usually boot tho

mortal garnet
#

ill jus install my cooler

#

i have extra thermal paste anyway

austere herald
#

it will be here in 3 days !! CHEERS

stoic island
#

:)

rancid lodge
#

nice

#

I just got my corsair h150i elite today along with my mobo and PSU

#

almost set for my second build, just need to wait for the case to come in stock then keep hunting down that 5900x

ripe wedge
#

I am disgusted with pcpp

#

that gigabyte psu does not belong to the top 5

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stoic island
#

lol

ripe wedge
#

and it should not have 5 stars

stoic island
#

10 reviews

#

the rest of them had their pc explode and not able to use pcpp >:D

austere herald
#

if you can find a rx 6800 let me know lol

ripe wedge
#

lol

ripe wedge
austere herald
#

im know 😦

#

id be happy with a 57xt at this point

#

whats wrong with the gigabite pcu ?

stoic island
#

blows up

#

literally

ripe wedge
#

^

austere herald
#

well i guess its a good time to say thats the one i have

ripe wedge
stoic island
ripe wedge
#

and it has japanese caps

#

I still have mine in the plastic lol

#

gonna sell it

#

or wait on recall

stoic island
#

ick

#

jake, shall we convert you to the WD Blue CMR drive faith?

#

and that aio.....

ripe wedge
#

thats the aio he chose

stoic island
#

why

#

it's about the price of the chip itself

ripe wedge
#

and I changed the case to the airflow version of the one he chose

#

and idk maybe he wanted that aio badly

#

once he comes back maybe he can explain why he chose it

#

also didnt change it to something else because I dont know corsair aios that well

stoic island
#

:P

main magnet
#

3060ti x AMD 5600x = Good match or nAh¿

rancid lodge
#

sounds good yeah, 5600x are in stock on amazon rn for near MSRP so grab em

stoic island
#

This would have more rgb than the last build :P

ripe wedge
#

oh yeah that looks better but I left most of the corsair stuff cuz assumed he was a corsair fanboy

main magnet
#

Idk if either would be severely bottlenecked

#

Ah

stoic island
#

@ripe wedge then convert them from being a Corsair fanboy, Corsair in general is bad, mediocre at best >:P

ripe wedge
#

lol

#

I guess yeah

rancid lodge
#

wait nevermind they were around 340 earlier today but now they're 370 so

#

USD

ripe wedge
#

well I think imma install my 2tb m.2 now... gotta be very careful with my $1k+ gpu lol

rancid lodge
#

good luck lol

main magnet
#

I ordered a build about a week ago including both but then randomly had doubts recently

#

But I think it’s fine so nvm

rancid lodge
#

ima need to get a 1tb m.2 soon after I upgrade my build

#

cause uh my HDD and SSD combined only have ~50 GB left

#

so

main magnet
#

What’s your total capacity rn

rancid lodge
#

not good™️

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main magnet
#

O hecc

rancid lodge
#

oh boy it's only 45 GB after I installed 3Ds max 2020

#

but I uninstalled 3Ds max 2019-

#

death

#

and don't ask why I have a lower capacity HDD and a higher capacity SSD instead of the other way around, it was my first build okay

hollow grail
#

250gb hdd

rancid lodge
#

I know please spare me

#

mercy

hollow grail
#

i hope you bought it used

#

or not new

rancid lodge
#

I don't even remember at this point

hollow grail
#

as long as it was under $10 ur fine

main magnet
#

What does the little windows icon on one of the storage icons mean; like why’s it only on one

rancid lodge
#

this was like 3-4 years ago okay

hollow grail
main magnet
#

Ah ic

rancid lodge
#

yeah

#

also 3090 in stock

#

scramble

#

I'm not after a 3090 but uh

main magnet
#

👀

hollow grail
#

profit

rancid lodge
#

no resellers bad

main magnet
#

If I pasted the entire spec for a build and asked for thoughts would I get slammed for “flooding” or something

hollow grail
#

reselling good

rancid lodge
#

no

hollow grail
#

yes because you can use pcpartpicker like everyone else in this server

rancid lodge
#

I do use pcpartpicker

#

sMh

main magnet
#

I used PCSpecialist oops

hollow grail
#

im talking to the person whos trying to fill the entire text channel

main magnet
#

Shhhh

#

Lemme check if it has a link option thing

rancid lodge
#

oh boy yeah uh

#

a single link is a lot easier

hollow grail
#

move it to pcpartpicker

#

ez

main magnet
#

Yuh I’ll redo the build on there tomorrow instead

rancid lodge
#

^^

main magnet
#

Specialist aint got no links 😔

rancid lodge
#

pcpartpicker master race

lament oyster
desert gulch
#

I have one

#

You just gaming?

stoic island
#

Change the SSD

desert gulch
#

5600x better for gaming if you don't need the cores

#

Also ram is overpriced

stoic island
#

Prob change PSU too

desert gulch
#

You can get 32 gigs for that

stoic island
#

SSD to at least mp34, optimally p31

#

PSU I'd spend more and get an amp 650w personally

#

B5 isn't bad, just very mediocre

desert gulch
#

Amp 650 is pog

elder wren
#

At the same price:

Is an MSI B460M Torpedo + i5 10600k a better buy than a B450M Bazooka + Ryzen 5 3600?

desert gulch
#

yeah 10600k better imo

ripe wedge
#

I cant remember. is it GPT the one I should use or MBR

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desert gulch
#

mr1 i have a question... so ive heard you cant just get any replacement cable for your psu to make them look better or you can fry pc, but does that extend to extensions? wanted to get some asiahorse psu extensions and are any of those okay to get?

potent portal
ripe wedge
#

ah ok so it is GPT

#

I couldnt remember

velvet isle
desert gulch
#

few things

#

that cpu cooler is not needed at all

#

gammax 400 will work fine

#

its 25 bucks

#

def could get cheaper mobo

#

get a better ssd if you can, mp34, p31, sn750, 970 evo

ripe wedge
#

that ssd is poo

desert gulch
#

psu is fine altho phanteks amp is cheaper i think

#

yeah

ripe wedge
#

sn750 one I had before was better

desert gulch
#

r5 3600 is meh for 200

#

id go 10400f

ripe wedge
#

you will regret spending $5 less for a poopy ssd

desert gulch
#

its like 2 bucks less sometimes lol

#

sn750 on sale for 62 a lot pog

velvet isle
desert gulch
#

well its way better value rn

#

for that price point

velvet isle
#

Then if i want to upgrade, i will have to buy new mobo

desert gulch
#

cant a z490 handle 11th gen?

#

im pretty sure it can

lament oyster
desert gulch
#

crucial ballistix good

#

ripjaws 5 good

#

130 is mega expensive for 16 gigs

#

ig it has rgb and stuf

lament oyster
#

it used to be 106 when i put it on there

#

lmao

#

should have bought it then

velvet isle
#

I would not get the corsair pro rgb

lament oyster
#

im not its to expensive for the 3600mhz

desert gulch
#

lol

velvet isle
#

stfu

#

lol

desert gulch
#

smol you gonna run msfs on this new build?

#

i bet itll handle it rly well

velvet isle
desert gulch
#

air cooling

#

way better value

#

im on a 30 dollar air cooler and overclocked a bit

#

super low temps considering

velvet isle
#

Air cooling is ugly af

desert gulch
#

better value tho

#

and stock cooler does technically work for stock speeds

lament oyster
desert gulch
#

pog

main magnet
desert gulch
#

im rly happy my system is fine with it up on ultra

#

no just a bit overpriced

#

atm

velvet isle
#

I dont want my pc to look like a child barfed in it

main magnet
#

Ahh okay

#

lmao

desert gulch
#

ultra settings look rly nice on msfs

#

thats only 1080p aswell

velvet isle
#

That impressive

#

It looks nice

desert gulch
#

its almost as good as real life tbh

lament oyster
desert gulch
#

like 45 ish

#

out in the country

#

in cities my ram rly hurts me

#

like 20 in cities

lament oyster
#

well thats to be expected tbh

desert gulch
#

but i hardly fly in cities so not worth upgrading ram

lament oyster
#

the cities hurt any pc i think

#

true

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

im more of a bush pilot lol

lament oyster
#

im all of it

#

thats my dream job to be a pilot

#

i wanted to join the airforce but im to tall for jets 😦 lol

desert gulch
#

lol

lament oyster
#

my dad owns a plane so im going to get free flight lessons other than gas lol

desert gulch
#

yeah you lucky

lament oyster
#

cessena 182

desert gulch
#

i went in a flight in one not too long ago

#

o ride

lament oyster
#

very fun

little osprey
desert gulch
#

dont need 64 gigs to game

lament oyster
#

just looked at it for a sec and get a 3700x or a ryzen 5 5600x if you can the 3800x doesnt really help much but its a lot more expensive

little osprey
#

He does audio production

desert gulch
#

psu overpriced

little osprey
#

and wanted more ram

desert gulch
#

phanteks amp 850 is pog

little osprey
#

he found his 32gb ram too little for his audio work

#

it sucks it up too fast.

#

I was thinking RMX850w

#

i know its good

#

but expensive

velvet isle
#

I would get a big hdd for bulk storage

desert gulch
#

amp is rly good i think

velvet isle
#

Hdd is much cheaper

little osprey
#

he wanted all ssd

#

I already asked

#

I gave him a hdd build

#

he said we would prefer HDD

velvet isle
#

You can get much more storage on a hdd than a ssd for the same price

little osprey
#

Basically im trying to convert him to pc masterrace

#

Yeah but his audio files he works with are in tb's

#

Huge amounts of moving audio files around

potent portal
#

Maybe do a SSD cache for a HDD, best of both worlds

little osprey
#

I tried that as well lol

#

He questioned why HDD

#

tech teacher be like

#

the revolt is good right?

#

Like I need to make sure I don't accidently kill a teacher.

potent portal
#

Well if you've got the money for it you can totally go all SSD, there's relatively affordable 2.5 drives that are 8 TB now

hollow grail
#

yeah be sure to only kill teachers on purpose

little osprey
#

Lol

hollow grail
#

falcie u reminded me of the friend i have

#

they built a super smol nas

#

its like 100+tb

little osprey
#

I asked my teacher if I can go over his 2k budget

hollow grail
#

using 4tb 860 evo

little osprey
#

into 42k budget

#

for the 100tb 3.5 inch ssd

#

Lol

potent portal
#

Only 100TB in the NAS? If I was doing one of those I'd need at least 8 bays with 15-25TB each

velvet isle
#

If anyone has the time, could you put together a 1400$ pc for me

little osprey
#

...

#

we don't even know what your going to be doing with it lol

velvet isle
#

gaming and streaming

#

maybe youtube

potent portal
#

Like watching or editing?

hollow grail
little osprey
#

... even more description

hollow grail
#

video editing

velvet isle
#

Editing

hollow grail
#

had like 10+ ppl hitting the box at once

little osprey
#

any ssd's y'all recommend?

hollow grail
#

needed to fit like 4 raw projects at once

little osprey
#

I'd assume either m.2 or 3.5

hollow grail
#

depends on the use cas e

#

but generally the pilot e is a perfectly fine drive

#

same with the mp34

#

if within like $20 of each other id mp34

main magnet
#

970 EVO Pro = Bad¿
(As a boot drive with a couple of games that are played often)

main whale
#

Don't use an M.2 as a boot drive?

little osprey
#

im confused what

main magnet
#

uh

little osprey
#

I use a m.2 as a boot drive

#

its 100% fine

main magnet
#

yea everyone i’ve talked to has said the same

main magnet
hollow grail
main whale
#

I just interpret what Jayden said.

hollow grail
#

oh

#

970 pro good drive

main whale
#

Not an advice, just a question.

hollow grail
#

i like the mlc

main magnet
#

O

hollow grail
#

but it is kind of overpriced

#

i mean not overpriced

#

but there are drives that offer better value to the average consumer

#

for a lower price

main magnet
#

Ahh

#

will upgrade in the future

#

wish i’d used this server before ordering

little osprey
#

I can tell you what's overpriced lol

#

my two gen4 drives kekw

#

Yes, Gen4 has no benefit over gen3

#

avoid

#

just got em on sale

hollow grail
potent portal
#

Ew gen4
literally no point unless you're copying large files from one gen4 to another

main magnet
#

I ordered a PC with a 250GB 970 Evo Pro

#

and then a 1TB HDD

little osprey
#

Lol

#

max ive hit so far is 1.6

#

combined in different files

#

like 8

#

I built my pc

main magnet
#

Will 650W be adequate? Was one of my main concerns

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little osprey
#

for what

muted patio
#

Yes

stoic island
#

Very interesting storage

main magnet
#

For tHat

stoic island
#

Not that PSU though if possible

muted patio
#

650W wioll be adequate if it's a quality one

stoic island
#

Cv650 is eh

muted patio
#

yeah, NOT that one

stoic island
#

It's not "oh hell no it's going to blow" but it's not good either

muted patio
little osprey
stoic island
#

Yea

little osprey
#

Wasn't it CXM

#

Or another one

muted patio
#

CV is bad too

little osprey
#

Oh\

muted patio
#

Tier D IIRC

#

Or C

stoic island
#

CXm coil whine, CV just low quality overall

muted patio
#

i know CXM is C

stoic island
#

I think bad ripple

#

CV 650 was tier c and CV <650 was tier D iirc

#

I don't get it, why does mobile capitalize D and not capitalize c

#

Welp

little osprey
#

it capitallizes c for me.

main magnet
#

Glad I didn’t listen to the website and get 450W then 💀

little osprey
#

Rule #1 of building a pc,
Never cheap out on a PSU

#

you don't need a living room bomb

#

and california wildfires

main magnet
#

Yessir

little osprey
#

That list earlier I sent

#

I specifically made sure the PSU didn't explode lol

#

i don't need a teacher dead.

fossil halo
#

when i built my pc

#

but my dumbass didnt

#

literally i kid you not

#

i like brace myself in the morning when i boot up my pc

#

scared it just wont boot

little osprey
#

what is a psu?

velvet isle
#

Did u just ask that

little osprey
#

I play on a laptop ;-;

#

with 30 fps

velvet isle
#

its a power supply

stoic island
#

Power supply unit

little osprey
#

I've never touched a pc besides the school laptops

#

schools pc i mean

#

lmao

stoic island
#

need some edits

little osprey
#

like?

velvet isle
#

Where is the graphics card

little osprey
#

do I need a graphic card for minecraft ;-;

#

i have intergrated graphics

#

on cpu

velvet isle
#

Ok

little osprey
#

any recomendations to make it cheeper or better?

#

Its just a starting pc when i start working I will upgrade

velvet isle
#

I would say your mobo is way too expensive for your cpu

little osprey
#

its the only one that pcpartspicker offers

#

that is the cheepest

stoic island
#

and use some of the saved money for decent keeb+mouse

little osprey
#

ok

#

thx

velvet isle
stoic island
#

if I make the assumption you can get cards at msrp, yes

velvet isle
#

3060 ti

#

is the card im going for

stoic island
#

need wifi or no

velvet isle
#

no wifi

#

it just needs a ethernet port

little osprey
stoic island
#

@little osprey hell no

little osprey
#

ight

stoic island
#

130$ is already overpriced

#

stock is just crap

#

it should be closer to 100$ flat

little osprey
#

so keep the mobo that u recomeded me?

stoic island
#

Keep it

little osprey
#

ok

little osprey
lament oyster
uncut pelican
potent portal
#

The B5 is a C tier iirc

muted patio
#

What card?

uncut pelican
#

Although maybe a seasonic or corsair would be good too

muted patio
#

Not showing on mobile

lament oyster
#

3070 or 3060ti which ever one i can get my hands on

stoic island
#

B5 is lack of info tier B

#

I'd go for an amp 650w

muted patio
#

Phanteks 650w or segotep modular

stoic island
#

Segotep gp-g 750w is an option too

lament oyster
stoic island
#

yea that works

lament oyster
#

this?

#

ok

velvet isle
#

k

#

i made some ajusments

stoic island
#

bruh why

#

I don't even remember what list I made you but that looks nothing like something I'd make

lament oyster
#

the aio?... why

#

for a 3600x air cooler is just fine

#

if you want to save money

stoic island
#

wait wait wait

lament oyster
#

unless its just something you want

stoic island
lament oyster
#

not x

stoic island
#

and you swapped out 10600k for 3600 :(

lament oyster
#

lmao

stoic island
#

you swapped a helix l 1tb for a p2 500gb..?

#

It's just not a good idea

#

p2 not a good drive

#

500gb as sole storage isn't a great idea either

lament oyster
#

hes also now got a Graphics card

#

or she sorry

#

nvm

#

i looked over the 3060

stoic island
#

@velvet isle In conclusion, the CPU+Motherboard+Ram changes spent more money for less performance, the SSD change went for a worse smaller drive, case is worse, and that case required you to pay more for RGB fans, when the first case came with argb fans.

velvet isle
#

Going with ryzen will give me better choices in the future

stoic island
#

Not really

lament oyster
#

i would say the list Mr1111 made is far more superior

stoic island
#

both Intel and AMD only have 1 more generation on that socket

#

Ryzen past 5000 series is going on a different platform (socket)

potent portal
#

AM4 is probably going out next gen

stoic island
#

And Intel past 11th gen will be on a different platform

#

@velvet isle I know AMD held the crown for a bit, and people still recommend AMD as a whole over Intel, but the current market specifically gives Intel the crown.

velvet isle
#

For me realistically i wont need anything past a ryzen 9 5900x

stoic island
#

And again, Intel also has another generation on the socket, which, if leaks are to be believed, will smack AMD in gaming.

potent portal
#

leaks 🤣

stoic island
#

(Intel already said 11th gen will be supported on Z490 btw)

little osprey
#

1111 why spend 100$ on a weird looking case like the TD500 😩

stoic island
#

@potent portal eh, benches (passmark) are good enough for me to get a sense of the performance of the hardware

lament oyster
#

i like the meshify c

stoic island
#

Since 11900k and 11800k(I think?) already popped up on passmark with benches, I think we have a general idea

potent portal
#

I like my meshify also, and I believe it's on sale

lament oyster
#

its very nice

stoic island
#

@little osprey It's a great case thermals wise, and I love the look lel

velvet isle
#

The mobo that i chose realistically wont need to be upgraded. It already has gen 4 m.2. Gen 4 PCIE. Support up to 128GB of ram, 4733 mhz. Am4. What more will i need

stoic island
little osprey
#

the front panel though 😩

lament oyster
#

...

little osprey
lament oyster
#

build chat.

stoic island
#

@velvet isle I mean, that wasn't the main issue I was talking about, the CPU's performance itself was what we were talking about

lament oyster
#

i just posted it bc the rx 580 is $515

stoic island
#

With the list I gave you, there's another 200$ free in the budget to spend on a better Z490 board that can likely do everything that b550 board can do.

little osprey
#

with how close we are to 11th gen intel

#

don't you think it would be a good idea to just wait lul

stoic island
#

I mean, that's a good option too

#

could grab a z590 board that has native pcie 4.0 support plus 11th gen chip

#

but need something to fallback on if 11th gen sells out

little osprey
#

ye

velvet isle
#

What do you think

lament oyster
#

you can save 15 bucks if you care on the PSU with a amp 650

velvet isle
#

I cant use that board though

#

it only has PCIE 3.0 not 4.0

little osprey
#

Do you live near a microcenter?

velvet isle
#

I wish

main whale
#

Same.

little osprey
#

damn

#

cuz 10850k is 350$

velvet isle
#

What is the socket for 11 gen

stoic island
#

LGA1200

#

same for 10th gen and 11th gen

rancid lodge
#

Is it worth the time or money to return 32 GB of CL16 3200mhz RAM for 32 GB CL16 3600mhz for a 5900x?

#

Starting to question whether 3200mhz really is sufficient for a 5900x

wanton cliff
#

id say yes

muted patio
#

IMO, should be 4000 mhz

#

for 5000 series

wanton cliff
#

for a 5900x you would ideally have low CAS 3800mhz-4000mhz

#

minimum 3600

rancid lodge
#

Yeah alright, I probably will, idk when I’ll get the CPU anyways so it’s not like time is a major constraint

potent portal
#

AMD loves fast RAM, it boosts the infinity fabric speed

strong idol
#

anyone know of some good cable extensions?

#

or just chords in general

muted patio
#

CableMod

rancid lodge
#

prob should grab a link, one sec

muted patio
#

4000 might be cheaper

#

worth a check

#

3800 is in an odd place for ram right now

rancid lodge
#

Huh, alright

muted patio
#

SOunds weird

rancid lodge
#

I’ll see if the 4000Mhz equivalent is cheaper or near that

muted patio
rancid lodge
#

Yeah I’m looking at 32 so two sets of those 16 might be cheaper for sure but tbh I might just go with 2x16 for more expansion

#

Just in case I ever want to go overkill and get 64 GB of ram

little osprey
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how much cooling do you guys think I'll get by slapping another fan to AMD's stock cooler for their A series chips?

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jagged ember
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probably not much

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i'd just go get a better cpu cooler

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those have more thermal mass anyways

little osprey
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my aio stopping working randomlyuh

normal osprey
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Can someone help me with a few psu questions

mortal garnet
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prob should jus ask em so that if someone can they can help u

normal osprey
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What’s the difference between the “ BQ” “BR” and the “BA”

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mortal garnet
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i dont know exactly but I'm pretty sure bq is the best out of all of em

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but theyre still not really good power supplies

sharp blade
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Haha

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Its a prebuild of course

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I think Amazon is a bit confused

dapper geode
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I am unable to get my hands on any 30 series graphics cards here in canada. Any other sources or recommendations?

frank stirrup
little osprey
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newegg shuffle is best 😂

ripe halo
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Paid msrp. Just keep looking!

dapper geode
ripe halo
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Honestly from a local on kijiji

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They were laid off and just needed some bucks. Gave me the receipt and I was able to register warranty no problem

uncut pelican
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I just went to bestbuy and bought a 3070 on release date

dapper geode
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Trust buying 3060ti off etsy?

velvet isle
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send me the link

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so i can see

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im 13 so i cant buy it

muted patio
dapper geode
velvet isle
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I would not buy a graphics card until they are back in stock with trusted retailers

lofty ridge
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someonenee

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I neeed help

wanton cliff
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speak your problem

lofty ridge
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wait

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ok so

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can i use 2 different ram sticks in my pc

wanton cliff
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yes

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wait

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what do you mean by two different sticks?

lofty ridge
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its the same brand

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just a dif model

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same speed

wanton cliff
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which two models

lofty ridge
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corsair vengance pro

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and some other corsair black ram

wanton cliff
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what speed and cas latency

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and how many gigs in each

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(should be a sticker on the side that says)

lofty ridge
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8 gigs each

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3200 mhz

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and for cas latency

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uh

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lemme see