building-and-recc-chat

[wanton cliff]

They make TVs in more than 60hz?

[alpine thunder]

Yes yes they do

[jolly furnace]

for a while actually......

[alpine thunder]

There's trumotion, motion rate, and regular refresh rate

[full atlas]

45$ 2700x, good
45$ ballistix, good
Hdd/gpu, got for free
Case, it’s 20$ and fine Bc I will never run with front panel Bc idc about looks

[alpine thunder]

The first 2 are fake refresh rate

[full atlas]

Looks fine like this to me anyways

[alpine thunder]

@jolly furnace

[wanton cliff]

[alpine thunder]

Any other ideas?

[jolly furnace]

rgb lmao

[alpine thunder]

I think don't worry

Way ahead of you

[jolly furnace]

theres alot i could say

[alpine thunder]

A majority of the stuff you don't see is razer, and phillips hue under the desk

[jolly furnace]

i swear to god you better not buy a goddamn funko pop

[alpine thunder]

Pls say more

[alpine thunder]

Heck no

[full atlas]

Like the only questionable thing I’ve purchased was the case, but that’s only if I ram the front which I won’t

[alpine thunder]

Not that kind of person

The anime stays

[jolly furnace]

only degenerates buy funko pops

[alpine thunder]

I could probably find a controller rack to open up that space

[full atlas]

I literally put the front on, take the photo, and take it off

[alpine thunder]

And there's still many things to move around

[jolly furnace]

the best thing to do is just go to your search engine and type "pc gaming setup"

and just find one you like

[alpine thunder]

The general idea I was going for

[jolly furnace]

like this

[alpine thunder]

Is having my pc and consoles all on display on the desk

[jolly furnace]

???

[alpine thunder]

Eh kinda yea kinda no

Definitely don't want the TV above the monitor

The laptop serves as a second monitor to me

It's a 96inch desk so trying to make due with the space I got

[tough gorge]

can someone tell me why dell motherboards use 5 pin fan headers

[desert gulch]

cause the fans they use might be 5 pin

[tough gorge]

they are

its just annoying because I want to add 3 pin fans

[desert gulch]

you can prolly buy adapters

or buy a hub

that goes off one

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/prLKbh Will this run fortnite low settings 1080p at 165fps

[desert gulch]

what settings?

like comp settings?

[little osprey]

yes

[desert gulch]

prolly

look up benchmarks for 10400f and 1070

like those video benchmarks

where they test them in games

thats your best bet

[quasi snow]

@little osprey https://youtu.be/J4TMV5Mr0Nc
looks like you're good

[earnest olive]

did you already buy a 1070 for $330? @little osprey

that's really not worth it

[wanton cliff]

I think he thinks it’s more worth it than waiting for a 3060 to be in stock

Even tho they haven’t even released yet

[mortal garnet]

so shiny

[jagged ember]

Shinyyy

[brittle tinsel]

whats all this I hear about 3060 having 12gb vram and 3070 only has 8?

wouldnt the 3060 be worse than the 3060 ti?

[pliant lake]

It is worse, but it has more ram.

[little osprey]

wouldnt it be better for mining?

the 10400f is 150

atm i think thats an amazing deal

[brittle tinsel]

So for 1080p highest settings in warzone which of the 2 is gonna persistently keep 144 FPS on the table

[pliant lake]

Don’t have real numbers yet but chances are that both will

[brittle tinsel]

I’ve been told the 3060ti will keep 144fps 1080p “ultra” settings with no problem, but I want to make sure before I just at the next available slot

Stock* damn autocorrect

Would you happen to have a link to anything comparing the nvenc capabilities of each new 30 series card?

[earnest olive]

@brittle tinsel bandwidth is more important than capacity for mining

a 3090 doesn't outperform a 3080 by all that much despite 2.4x the capacity

[brittle tinsel]

???

I wasn’t talking about mining?

[earnest olive]

it's like 120 mh/s vs 100 mh/s

you were earlier

[brittle tinsel]

No

[earnest olive]

oh wait

my bad someone else was

sorry

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t have anything to do with mining or any interest in it, I’m a gamer lol all good

[earnest olive]

i'm both

i mine when i'm not gaming so i don't feel like i'm wasting my card

[little osprey]

dont u need mining drivers to mine?

idk how it really works

[brittle tinsel]

Doesn’t that cost more in power than it makes?

[earnest olive]

nah

makes $11/day

works on normal drivers

[little osprey]

what card do u have?

[earnest olive]

3080

modded

[little osprey]

what does the mod do?

[earnest olive]

i just modded thermal pads on the vram

[wanton cliff]

I need to get some of those

[brittle tinsel]

Hey would anyone happen to know what motherboard would support 4 internal capture cards?

[wanton cliff]

Any mobo with 4 internal PCIe slots

So probably a server board

[brittle tinsel]

Pcie 4x or 16x

[wanton cliff]

Doesn’t really matter for a capture card

[brittle tinsel]

Do stream PCs need a gpu or will intergrated work fine ?

[wanton cliff]

Wait hold on

Why do you need 4 Capture Cards?

[brittle tinsel]

Long story?

[wanton cliff]

Sure

Tell it

[brittle tinsel]

Does a streaming pc need a gpu or not?

[wanton cliff]

Depends

Do you want your stream to be in high quality?

[brittle tinsel]

Preferably

[wanton cliff]

If the answer is yes, get something with an NVENC encoder

[brittle tinsel]

Will any NVENC do or will I need a 30 series

Cause when I get my new pc built, I’ll have an old 1060 3gb laying around

[little osprey]

16/20/30 series

[autumn wolf]

1660 and above

pretty sure the 1650 uses pascal nvenc

[brittle tinsel]

Pascal NVENC?

[autumn wolf]

the nvenc used on the 10 series and older cards

1650 uses it

not as good as whats used on the 1660 series and higher but decent

[brittle tinsel]

Does 20 series and 30 series all use the same NVENC?

[autumn wolf]

would recommend a 1660 series or higher for the new nvenc

yes

1660 and higher use the same nvenc

[brittle tinsel]

Or would a 3070 have better NVENC than 3060 ti

[autumn wolf]

theyre the same

[brittle tinsel]

So would a 3070 and r9 3900x be a good single pc stream setup?

[autumn wolf]

ye

more than good really

[little osprey]

3900x is unneeded

get something like a 3600

or 3700x

preferably 5600x

[brittle tinsel]

Would I need to turn my settings down say for like warzone and such or will NVENC not be bothered when I’m using higher gpu settings

[autumn wolf]

no

nvnec you can think of as a capture card built into the gpu

to really break it down into simple terms

[brittle tinsel]

Really? I’ve heard it uses like 10% of the gpu

[autumn wolf]

it doesnt use much and you wont get hit with a performance issue

and if it does get hit, then itll be very few frames

[brittle tinsel]

3900x will work for the other programs I use that are cpu heavy was just seeing how it would handle gaming since this pc will be used as a gaming, streaming, video editing and script compiling

[frank stirrup]

I think a ryzen 7 should handle all that just as well but you do you

[brittle tinsel]

My buddy just got a 3900x and it’s amazing, I have yet to see that thing go above 20% but all he does is game

[mortal garnet]

a ryzen 5 would be enough

[little osprey]

no

[frank stirrup]

I would use a ryzen 7 and spend more money on the graphics card

[mortal garnet]

workflow on editing software are more ram dependent

[little osprey]

5800x/5900x

[frank stirrup]

no

[mortal garnet]

i use to edit with a ryzen 5

[frank stirrup]

Compiling is a pain with a ryzen 5

[mortal garnet]

how much ram do you have

[frank stirrup]

Especially on 10000+ lines of code

[mortal garnet]

o compiling code

[frank stirrup]

16 gigs

[frank stirrup]

No....

[brittle tinsel]

I managed to get a 3070 and 3900x with a lot of high speed ram and even throw in a 32 key stream deck and the whole budget came to just shy of $2600

[little osprey]

so u already have the 3900x?

[frank stirrup]

Unless you import 10 4k files ram really isnt an issue... 16 gigs is MORE than enough

[brittle tinsel]

No, I’ve working towards that budget, COVID is making it really hard to get people to pay to clean there yards and such

[little osprey]

Get a 5900x

price difference is usually only around 100$

[mortal garnet]

when editing in after effects, 16gb of ram was holding me back more than my ryzen 5

[little osprey]

way better single core perf and up to 20-30% better multi

[brittle tinsel]

$100 difference between a 3900x and 5900x?

Like ryzen 9?

[little osprey]

484$ vs 550$

from what im seeing

yep

[brittle tinsel]

Link?

[frank stirrup]

Get a 5800x and a rx6800x

imo

[little osprey]

Just wait for a restock on best buy/amazon

[little osprey]

ehhhh

[brittle tinsel]

Nah amd gpus are ass

[little osprey]

If hes streaming amd is out of it with a 5800x

[little osprey]

they aren't ass

just not good for what u want to do

[frank stirrup]

You would be surprised mate

[frank stirrup]

The 5800x is more than enough for streaming and editing as well as compiling tbh

Unless you plan on going 4k

[little osprey]

5800x performs worse than a 3900x

[brittle tinsel]

My brother bought a prebuilt pc on payments and the company sent out an amd card instead of the 1060 we ordered in it, that think would not get more then 3 FPS in menus of games and wouldn’t even update the driver

[little osprey]

on multi

[frank stirrup]

Yeah but single core is far superior so more frames in games

[little osprey]

thats called RX5000

which was a bad lineup

due to the drivers

[frank stirrup]

RX 5000 series was trash

[little osprey]

What resolution are you planning to play on?

[brittle tinsel]

Nah this was a rtx 570

[frank stirrup]

Yeah very important question

[frank stirrup]

rtx 570 isnt a card that exists

[brittle tinsel]

All my monitors are 1080p I personally don’t find 1440p worth it

[little osprey]

it was easy mistype

[brittle tinsel]

Rx*

[hollow grail]

gtx 570 moment

[frank stirrup]

and if ur talking about the rx570 im running it right now and i get 60+ fps in warzone while using my graphics card to record

[frank stirrup]

XDDD

[little osprey]

RX570 good card

[brittle tinsel]

Well this one must have been faulty

[little osprey]

no it was driver problems

[brittle tinsel]

It was the worse gpu I have ever had

[little osprey]

guaranteed

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[hollow grail]

rx570 god card tbh

[brittle tinsel]

The company’s tech support couldn’t even fix it so they sent out the 1060

[little osprey]

RX5700 though

stinky

[hollow grail]

i used to run like 12+ rx 470

for a little bit

[frank stirrup]

Bruh im running an rx570 and a ryzen 5 3600x on an x570 board

[frank stirrup]

very trash

[hollow grail]

was super fun

[little osprey]

sounds like definition of

[hollow grail]

made some epic cloud gaming pcs

[loud wave]

do you guys think this is a good setup?? orrr should i switch some stuff up

[hollow grail]

post a pcpartpicker list

[little osprey]

i keep seeing that damn power supply

💩 tier

[frank stirrup]

Hahaha i built my entire pc in october so i wanted to make sure i could upgrade later...

[hollow grail]

ikr

i bet one of those braindead techtubers told ppl to get

[frank stirrup]

Imma get the rx6800 soon

[hollow grail]

lmfaooooo

imagine actually wanting an amd card

[frank stirrup]

Then my pc will actually justify my motherboard

[hollow grail]

[mortal garnet]

with that case and ram, you may run into clearance issue in the future with aios

[little osprey]

@brittle tinsel but yeah dude if you really don't care aslong as you get 144+ FPS i would just get a 5900x/3060

[brittle tinsel]

Never above 1080p I would prefer to be able to stream warzone on medium-high settings if not high and maintain 144 FPS

[frank stirrup]

Ryzen 5 is enough for you then XD

[little osprey]

no

[loud wave]

idkkk this is my first time building one thats what my cousin told me to get so im not sure

[brittle tinsel]

3060 or 3060 ti?

[little osprey]

he said compiling and the other stuff

[little osprey]

3060

3060 has 4GB more VRAM

[brittle tinsel]

I’m confused here is the vram or speed and amount of cuda cores what determines high Gfx gaming

[little osprey]

you're on 1080p

[brittle tinsel]

Ye

[little osprey]

so a better CPU is more important

[frank stirrup]

Yee

[brittle tinsel]

Is a 5900x really all that much better than a 3900x, and if it comes down to cpu couldn’t I just go with a 3070 or 3060 ti

[little osprey]

3060 is better for what you want to do

more VRAM for the editing compiling etc

[frank stirrup]

3060 and a ryzen 9 yeah

[little osprey]

5900x has 20% better single core and up to 30% better multi-core

for a minimal price difference

[brittle tinsel]

Ok

I don’t use Adobe or anything high class like that

I just use a $20 editing software

[frank stirrup]

Mando what are ur pc specs

[brittle tinsel]

Works just fine on my 3gb vram

[little osprey]

2700x 3080 why

[frank stirrup]

Oooh nice

2700x was a great cpu

[little osprey]

got it for 189$ in dec 2018

[frank stirrup]

Thats a steal

[brittle tinsel]

I mean realistically here I’d planned on going 3900x to avoid stock issues with the 5900x and a 3900x Is all I’d ever need

[hollow grail]

i remember buying like 4 or 5 of those at thatt price in 2019

yeah i have a bunch of 3900x

theyre cool

lotta cores

[normal osprey]

Is 3200 mhz and 3600mhz ram a big difference

[little osprey]

on amd system yes

on intel not that much

since their prices are similar theres no reason to not buy 3600mhz xd

[scenic turret]

Nah 3600 is more expensive rn, stupid market

But it's more worth it

[little osprey]

yeah market is so messy right now

yeah maybe for upgrading room

[fossil cedar]

1st make sure your mobo supports but 3200 is better value 3600 will mb add a 2% improvement

[tame sable]

this blender is taking forever on this pc

[stoic island]

send link

dew it

[safe dawn]

Here are my SPEC'S

[stoic island]

smh just use pcpp

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[safe dawn]

What

[stoic island]

oh well, good enough ig

oo M27q is even cheaper now, get it
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018

[safe dawn]

I need a good monitor

[stoic island]

That's a great monitor

M27q is godtier in terms of panel you get for the price

chart topping response times with no overshoot on the default setting

[vapid bay]

you would want a 1440p 144hz monitor

[stoic island]

@vapid bay which the M27q is

1440p 170hz

[safe dawn]

Okay

144 hertz I need ok?

[vapid bay]

can

can underclock a 170Hz monitor to 144Hz

[stoic island]

I mean

[safe dawn]

Ok

[vapid bay]

but that's virtually no reason to do so

[stoic island]

170hz is better than 144hz, why not run at 170hz

[safe dawn]

I mean u cn suggest me more better coz I don't have alot of ideas I have money

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018

[safe dawn]

So tell the the high end

Monitor

[stoic island]

This is the mid-high end

[jagged ember]

Someone send him a tv

[stoic island]

Unless you want to spend double it's price, there aren't much better

[jagged ember]

Honestly tho that monitor is already pretty good

[safe dawn]

Ok

[jagged ember]

I wouldnt want more lol

[stoic island]

The next step up would be a g7, which is more than 2x the price of a M27q, and VA, and you might not be able to run 1440p 240hz

2080 super would probably struggle

I'd just go M27q

[vapid bay]

1440p is mid-range

[stoic island]

Considering the GPU, I wouldn't go 4k 144hz

[jagged ember]

1440p is a pretty good res

What mr said also

[vapid bay]

not much fps fr 4k on a 2080s, but yea it can still rub it well

[jagged ember]

Yeah

But more frames are better

[vapid bay]

but 1440p is best option for that card

[jagged ember]

It gives you a competitive edge

[stoic island]

mhm

[vapid bay]

i can only have entry level lol

so 1440p gaming is too much for me

but hey, keychron k6 or a rx 5600 xt

if 5600 xt, i'll prob play some games on our 4k tv

don't care if it's 60 fps cap it'll only run 50+ fps on 4k lol

[jagged ember]

But why even game at 4k

Oh, cause the tv is 4k

[vapid bay]

for the games that's visual heavy

gonna make use of them tv since they all watch on the other tvs

[jagged ember]

True, visual based games

[vapid bay]

then i'll go full dumb and play league on 49" tv lol

gonna see my death anim. in high res lmao

[jagged ember]

At 30fps

4k

Hdr

[uncut pelican]

So I got a question

Can someone recommend a mini itx case

That can fit in a large backpack

[vapid bay]

wut

[uncut pelican]

Yes

Idk I thought that was pretty straight forward

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican Try NR200p to start off (Checking dimentions)

Velka case 3 will likely fit but annoying and iirc very expensive and annoying to work with

[uncut pelican]

Alright thank you

[remote kelp]

can mobo issues potentially trigger event viewer error 4101 / 13 / 14?

[rich helm]

That sounds more like a google question

Since I don’t think most people would know that exact error code

[uncut pelican]

Whats the difference from micro atx and mini itx

[stoic island]

ITX is very small

mATX is just less tall ATX

@uncut pelican I don't think mATX will fit in a backpack

[uncut pelican]

Alright thanks I think I found a good mobo for the case

[remote kelp]

4101 = display driver nvlddmkm has stopped responding and recovered

13 = save_restore_addr_oob, missing_macro_data (there are others like some warp exception, but these two are most common for me)

14 = something with a lot of zeroes

spoke to the gpu shop today and reinstalled windows, they said if that doesnt work call them back and they'll take a look at the card

[rich helm]

Well if it’s a display driver I would guess it would be a problem with the gpu

[remote kelp]

okies tyty, it's probably gpu at this point lol, this whole thing has just got me pretty paranoid

[stoic island]

I mean, if you have some time, might as well go through some windows debugging, it won't hurt anything, just as a precaution

General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

[remote kelp]

tried the sfc a few times already, will try the dism ones and see what happens

although i just did a pc reset

[stoic island]

eh, it wouldn't hurt to try

[warm swift]

@stoic island can you help me?

[stoic island]

I can try

[warm swift]

i yesterday said that i want to upgrade my current pc for my brother because im buying a new one

i can tell you what parts i have

ik what i want to upgrade but you tell me if there is anything else to upgrade

ok?

[stoic island]

Okay

[warm swift]

CPU is I7-7700K

Motherboard is Strix Z270G Gaming

i have RipJaws V DDR4-2800Mhz CL15 ram

[uncut pelican]

I have looked and I can't find which size psu to use

[rich helm]

I believe it’s sfx

[uncut pelican]

ee

[warm swift]

so thats all the parts ik so can i tell you what im planning to upgrade?

[rich helm]

What gpu

[warm swift]

Asus Strix 1080 Ti

but im planning on changing that too

[rich helm]

1080ti is perfectly fine

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican it supports SFX and SFX-L

[warm swift]

i didnt say it isnt

[rich helm]

Hard to find anything better in this market

[uncut pelican]

how did you. . . .

[stoic island]

@warm swift Yea, CPU mobo ram to start off

[warm swift]

what

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican Newegg specs listing are godly
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-nr200p-small-form-factor-mini-itx/p/N82E16811119403

@warm swift To upgrade, CPU mobo ram would be the first ones I'd upgrade.

GPU can chill for a bit

[uncut pelican]

Oh and that case isn't on pcpp which is sad

[stoic island]

It should be?

[warm swift]

that would be too much, it would be like buying another pc

[uncut pelican]

I couldn't find it

[civic tusk]

not really

[stoic island]

It is, you might have something that's incompatible in your list.

[civic tusk]

you replacing 3 of the components

[warm swift]

i want to change psu/graphics card/storage

so

it is like buying a new pc

and new fans

[uncut pelican]

NR200 ooo

[civic tusk]

why would you need to change the 1080ti

it is a perfectly good gpu

[warm swift]

i dont want to change it, but my dad wants to

i tried to convince him to not change it and he still wanted to

[civic tusk]

upgrading from a 1080ti in the current gpu market is pointless

nothing is available and anything that is available is usually overpriced

[warm swift]

yeah well that is true, im not saying that what your saying is wrong, but he wants to change it not me

[civic tusk]

fair enough

[rich helm]

Is he or you paying for it

[warm swift]

he is

and even for mine

[rich helm]

Oh well if he wants to pay for it then he can try to get one

Pretty difficult

[warm swift]

there are alot of them in egypt i think, because not alot of people buy them because they are pretty expensive

[paper jay]

Do aero models have worse performance

[uncut pelican]

Hows this

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/_Phil/saved/3bbPXL

Its a work pc

[warm swift]

but yeah so im planning to keep the CPU and Motherboard , i want to change the case to either the Cooler Master Mastercase H500 or MasterBox TD500 Mesh, or the Corsair 220T Airflow, thats all for the case, i will also get him a 2tb EVO PLUS ssd, going to change the graphics card to a 3080 ima try to convince him to get a 3070 tho, im going to get the BitFenix Whisper M 850W PSU, i think he has some type of aircooler i think ill probably keep it idk, and i want to get him some new case Fans @stoic island

[rich helm]

Not that good I can fix it for you

[uncut pelican]

Don't change the cpu, mobo, or psu

Because I know those are fine

For what they are doing

[rich helm]

You can get better for cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yp3ky4

Here’s one @uncut pelican

[muted patio]

Yeah, there's no upgrade path there at all

[stoic island]

Fair I guess, might want a ram upgrade then @warm swift

[muted patio]

with 9700k

[warm swift]

16gb or 32gb?

[little osprey]

sir..what is this

[rich helm]

Work computer

[little osprey]

[stoic island]

Faster, I'd try to get 3200mhz at least, maybe 2x16gb if you want to keep the ram for a recent upgrade, but 2x8 should do fine for the normal person

[rich helm]

You can find keys for that much sometimes

[stoic island]

eh

[little osprey]

yes those are pirated keys sir

[rich helm]

Well the other person didn’t have it for any price so I’m assuming they’d pay for it

[stoic island]

eh, you don't know

It could be pirated, it could be recycled win10 machine keys, it could be recycled win7 machine keys, etc

[haughty sable]

My power supply makes this noise every now and then and I've looked it up and i think its a cord that is hitting the fan inside the power supply. Should I consider replacing my power supply soon or is it fine? The power supply is a thermaltake 80 plus smart series.

[stoic island]

Uh, generally fan hitting a wire isn't a huge issue that'll cause people to replace em, but TT smart 80+ is worth replacing if you want to use it for any more builds down the line

[haughty sable]

ok, what power supply's would you recommend if I do replace it?

[wanton cliff]

You won’t get in trouble for them

Microsoft goes after the seller if anything at all

Not the consumer

[little osprey]

yea but u will get into trouble with discord kekw

[wanton cliff]

No?

[little osprey]

pre sure its against tos to promote any type of illegal keys indirect from microsoft

[wanton cliff]

I don’t think it is

[little osprey]

or retailers that have a contract

[wanton cliff]

But either way

A: how can Discord catch you?

B: Again, they would go after the seller

Not the buyer

[little osprey]

i meant promoting such things

[warm swift]

alright, btw the motherboard that i have, can it handle a 2tb evo plus?

[little osprey]

even then this is a partnered server so we gotta kinda abide by tos otherwise we go kerplunkd

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

Wait

What board

Isn’t it an A360 or something?

[stoic island]

It should be able to, z290 I think?

[warm swift]

Strix Z270G Gaming

[wanton cliff]

Huh

I mean

If it has an M.2 port

It should be able to

[warm swift]

alright so

lemme get this right

[uncut pelican]

ty

@rich helm Why an aio

Its legit a work pc not for gaming or graphic design

[wanton cliff]

10600k gets hot

Don’t really matter what you do

[little osprey]

doesnt need a 240mm aio kekw

will run fine on an se 224 xt - 33 usd

[uncut pelican]

^^

[wanton cliff]

Might as well go for aesthetic

[little osprey]

unless u wanna oc the crap out of it

[uncut pelican]

But it may not fit

I need everything to fit the first time rather than trying then returning

[wanton cliff]

Moreover, why are you getting a new pc if it’s just going to be for work? You already have a really good 8 core CPU and one of the best graphics cards you can buy right now

[warm swift]

MotherBoard: will keep it
Cpu: Will Keep it
Ram: minimum of 3200MHz and either 16gb or 32gb
SSD: 2TB Evo Plus
Graphics Card: 3080 or 3070
Case: Either Cooler Master MasterCase H500 or MasterBox TD500 Mesh
PowerSupply: Bitfenix Whisper M 850W
Fans: Idk yet
Cooler: i think ill keep the aircooler
@wanton cliff @stoic island

[uncut pelican]

Its not for me

[warm swift]

good enough?

[stoic island]

What exact air cooler is it?

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/_Phil/saved/3bbPXL This is the list I was going to do

[wanton cliff]

What CPU do you have?

[warm swift]

i honestly dont know i think a cooler master one?

[warm swift]

i7-7700k

[wanton cliff]

Lemme guess

[stoic island]

212 evo?

[wanton cliff]

Hyper 212

[stoic island]

oh well

[wanton cliff]

Damn, you got there first

[warm swift]

its black and it got some gold pins

the cooler

[wanton cliff]

Also wait

[stoic island]

@warm swift 2x8gb or 2x16gb of 3200mhz cl16 ram at mininum, but yea

[wanton cliff]

Which Evo Plus is it?

That’s not a very specific term

[warm swift]

yeah

[warm swift]

whats the latest evo plus?

[wanton cliff]

980

But that’s useless to you

[warm swift]

oh

they made a 980?

[wanton cliff]

PCIe Gen 4 is not able to be used by your board

[stoic island]

wait what

there's no 980 evo plus

[uncut pelican]

How about this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbcvCz

[wanton cliff]

I’m thinking of 980 pro aren’t I

[warm swift]

do you mean 980 pro? or 980 evo?

because i never heard of a 980 evo

[stoic island]

Just leave 980 alone, you won't be able to use it

[wanton cliff]

I don’t even think 970 can be used by your board well enough

[rich helm]

@uncut pelican the case says it supports up to 280 mm aio so 240 should fit fine. Though if you did want to do aio maybe get Corsair lpx ram instead

[warm swift]

im not even gonna get it for myself, i think that 1tb isnt enough for me, so ill also get a 2tb evo plus

[desert gulch]

@uncut pelican isnt that ram overpriced?

[warm swift]

yes i am getting the 970 evo plus

[wanton cliff]

Don’t recommend Corsair RAM

[warm swift]

for me and my brother

[desert gulch]

i paid like 80 bucks for 3600 c16 lol

[stoic island]

Ehm, I'd get 1tb ssd and a bigger hdd personally

but it works

[wanton cliff]

Same

[stoic island]

2tb evo plus really expensive

[wanton cliff]

Like $250 or something

Large and fast but expensive

[stoic island]

250$ on sale iirc

[wanton cliff]

Exactly

[haughty sable]

What companies make the best power supplies?

[stoic island]

[wanton cliff]

Seasonic

[stoic island]

Go by model

[wanton cliff]

Usually

[stoic island]

every company makes good and crap PSUs

[desert gulch]

@uncut pelican that psu seems overpriced imo

[stoic island]

Seasonic S12iii is trash

[warm swift]

honestly i have no problem with paying that much, i just want to get something that ill probably have for a while

[desert gulch]

100 bucks for a 500 is meh

phanteks amp 650 is like 100 i think

[stoic island]

@desert gulch sfx

[wanton cliff]

Phanteks AMP, Seasonic Focus Gold, Corsair RM...x? It was the RMx ones that were good, right?

[desert gulch]

ohhhh

rmx good

[stoic island]

@haughty sable Give me a budget and your use case

I'll give you more specific options

[desert gulch]

superflower leadex 3 good aswell

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff need to specify newer Focus plus GX, old focus plus fx kinda sucky

[desert gulch]

goes on sale on wegg every so often

[wanton cliff]

My bad

Focus Gold GX is the first one that pops up on Wegg or Amazon anyways

[stoic island]

Not on pcpp

[wanton cliff]

Huh

Odd

[stoic island]

pcpp shows both under just Focus plus gold

[rich helm]

That cooler is fine

[stoic island]

So you need to be careful

[haughty sable]

Budget is no more than $150 and my case is a ibuypower case so i'm not sure the name of the case

[wanton cliff]

PCPP’s search engine is dumb sometimes ngl

[warm swift]

is there something else i should change? @wanton cliff @stoic island

[wanton cliff]

First cooler it usually recommends is Hyper 212 Evo. Not even black edition.

[desert gulch]

@uncut pelican you gonna get a gpu in that build or going integrated?

[wanton cliff]

If your budget allows it, I would personally try and get a new board and CPU

Mostly board

But that’s only if you have extra to spend

[warm swift]

i cant, its like getting another pc

it would be too much

[wanton cliff]

Not too hard

[full atlas]

Should I cop?

[wanton cliff]

Just unscrew and screw back in

[desert gulch]

no

[wanton cliff]

Hell yeah

Use it to mine

[stoic island]

@warm swift should be good

[desert gulch]

mehh you used to be able to get 5700xt new for like 360

[warm swift]

alright thank you

[wanton cliff]

“Used to”

It’s 2021

[desert gulch]

ik

ig better deal than a 1660s for 500

[wanton cliff]

Much

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hNW8sX this is the list I’m gonna get (I will run no front panel Bc there is dust filter and idc about looks)

[warm swift]

i honestly cant change the motherboard and the cpu that would be alot, i would be paying like 8.3k dollars

[haughty sable]

Budget is no more than $150 and my case is a ibuypower case so i'm not sure the name of the case

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican Actually, you could go for Corsair SF 600w for not much more

[wanton cliff]

In what world would you be paying 8.3k?

[warm swift]

because im also getting a pc for myself

[uncut pelican]

I originally had that but its only a 200w system

[stoic island]

@haughty sable Well, Enermax Revolution D.F. 850w is a great option, Phanteks amp or Leadex iii 750w

@uncut pelican Are you not going to put in a GPU?

[desert gulch]

you rly going integrated gpu on that thing?

[uncut pelican]

no gpu

[desert gulch]

oof

[stoic island]

oh

[wanton cliff]

Work PC

[uncut pelican]

^^

For easy travel and stuff

but with this list i dont know if the cooler will fit on it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbcvCz

[stoic island]

I can check, I'm pretty sure l9i fits

I think it fit up to l12a, I'll make sure tho

[uncut pelican]

because that noctua fan is pretty big

[haughty sable]

Thank you

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican l9i pretty small actually, fits for sure, even the L12s fits

[haughty sable]

Whats the difference between 80+ gold and bronze?

[uncut pelican]

Thanks 🙂

[stoic island]

Efficiency, that's all

[wanton cliff]

The amount of power lost between transfer from AC to DC

[stoic island]

Don't use the efficiency rating to mean quality, good bronze units can beat bad gold units, good gold units can beat bad plat units, etc.

[uncut pelican]

the mobo only has wifi 5. . .

why did he change it

[full atlas]

The apevia prestige is tier c and gp600g is tier b tho

[stoic island]

What's wrong with wifi 5?

nahhh

sg-g op

[uncut pelican]

my client needs as fast wifi speeds as possible

[stoic island]

gp-g kinda niche

[wanton cliff]

Then get a PCIe WiFi card

Like $30

[full atlas]

Wrong server lol

[uncut pelican]

although I may have to put a wifi card in it anyway because he also needs bluetooth

[haughty sable]

How should i know if i should get a 80+ gold or bronze?

[stoic island]

@full atlas But you should reccomend SG-G on Newegg

@haughty sable don't need to worry about it, PSU quality matters, that bit doesn't matter

[wanton cliff]

Ask what PSU, not the efficiency of the PSU

In terms of rating

I have a friend who has a 3600x and a 2080 on a white rated 500w psu

Works just fine

[stoic island]

uhhh

oh 2080 og

[desert gulch]

80+ gold just means more efficient

no way indicates good quality

[haughty sable]

Super flower flow Leadex III 750w 80+ gold

[stoic island]

I can see 2080 og working, might get spikey tho

[wanton cliff]

It’s the Strix one too

[stoic island]

Leadex ii is good, should be ~125$

[wanton cliff]

Works just fine

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff thought you said 2080 ti for a sec

[wanton cliff]

Heh

No

That would probs break the PSU tbh

A good 650w could do the 2080Ti easily enough tho

That’s about the minimum I would recommend

[haughty sable]

Thank you for the help

[stoic island]

Yea

:)

[wanton cliff]

It’s some no name thermaltake PSU

I’ll ask him for a pic of the box

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yk7qXb hows this looking

[uncut estuary]

just bought an old gateway laptop

[uncut pelican]

This is the final product

[uncut estuary]

10 bucks

ran vista

[wanton cliff]

Ew

Vista

[uncut estuary]

ikr

[uncut pelican]

xp the bomb

[uncut estuary]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

XP great

Vista bad

[uncut estuary]

i did a video called "making a youtube video in windows xp"

now imma do "making a youtube video in windows vista... on vista hardware"

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican could get wifi card for cheaper lel

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rnx-ac3000-pci-express/p/N82E16833166144

[uncut pelican]

ikik but thats the one I got and it was easy and its got bluetooth

[uncut estuary]

im checking the drive turns out the original owner upgraded to 8

i mean 7

and its corupted

it does the boot animation, freezes, restarts, than opens recovery mode

should i downgrade it to vista or xp?

it has a dual core pentium and 1.5 gb ram

1.7 GHz

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

Vista

[warm swift]

i cant change the cpu and motherboard

[wanton cliff]

Downgrade it to vista

[uncut estuary]

ok

[wanton cliff]

Make a YouTube video with it

Or bench it with Heaven

[uncut estuary]

i need to find an iso I canm use

[warm swift]

cant i just keep the motherboard and cpu?

[wanton cliff]

You can

I said if budget allows

As in

Not completely necessary

But would help your system

[warm swift]

ik but like

im actually paying like

7k dollars

on both systems

so that would be alot

[uncut estuary]

ok i got a copy of vista pro x64

[wanton cliff]

@stoic island https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/smart-500w.html

It’s that PSU

[stoic island]

lmao

smart 80+

brrt

[wanton cliff]

Hehe

Somehow runs a Strix 2080 and a 3600x

[warm swift]

actually do you think that, a 3070 is more than enough for my brother?

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[warm swift]

instead of a 3080

[stoic island]

3070 should be good

[wanton cliff]

What does he play, Cyberpunk on ultra settings?

[warm swift]

nah

[wanton cliff]

He’ll be fine

[warm swift]

alright

[wanton cliff]

Unless he’s getting a G2 and plans on playing VRChat in large lobbies and needs the extra VRAM

He will be perfectly fine

[warm swift]

actually i feel like ill get alot of hate for saying the games hes going to be playing on a 3070 card

[wanton cliff]

Lemme guess

Roblox and some light minecraft

[warm swift]

no

he likes to play Fortnite and WarZone

[uncut estuary]

you guys remember the original unreal tournament?

[wanton cliff]

Fortnite likes powerful GPUs but Warzone is more CPU bound

[uncut estuary]

yeah

[warm swift]

so your saying warzone will be bad on a i7-7700k?

[wanton cliff]

Not necessarily

[hollow grail]

i host those

lol

[wanton cliff]

Just might have to play at lower settings

High instead of ultra

You know?

[uncut estuary]

i got one

[hollow grail]

from?

[wanton cliff]

Lili.gay

[hollow grail]

tru

sara did i tell you im moving them all to a self hosted cdn right now

[warm swift]

oh thats pretty ok to me, i mean in fortnite he likes to play on low settings, even tho i think it can handle atleast medium or high, but he likes the looks of low settings

[uncut estuary]

i had a vista pro disk that i made to an iso

[hollow grail]

1fichier is fine but this is a nice project

[wanton cliff]

What’s up with people asking for Uber powerful systems but then saying they are going to play Fortnite at low settings?

Like wth?

[uncut estuary]

i think my dads old pc had vista pro i can use the product key from that

if not then idk

[wanton cliff]

Easy enough to find a key online

[uncut estuary]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

It’s abandonware at this point

[uncut estuary]

oh yeah

[hollow grail]

nah iirc ms still doesnt want u activating it

https://lili.gay/site/msdn/

if u still want iso

[uncut estuary]

oh nice

thx

[wanton cliff]

Need Rufus and stuff too

Obviously

[uncut estuary]

you have a copy of ultimate?

[wanton cliff]

Ultimate?

[uncut estuary]

i actualy need an 8.1 iso to complete my colection

and 8

can you install vista off of a usb stick?

because thats all i have

[wanton cliff]

I assume so

[uncut estuary]

wait i dont even have a usb stick

[wanton cliff]

Your lappy has a type a?

[uncut pelican]

Whats better for software developing and having many processes running at once, intel or amd

including having linux and windows

[uncut estuary]

i dont have a charger for the laptop so i just pluged the hard drive into one of my pcs

[wanton cliff]

Arguably AMD but you need a GPU

None of the higher end AMD CPUs has an iGPU

[uncut pelican]

it will have a 1060

[tawdry lance]

Cores, amd

[hollow grail]

is it on my site?

[uncut pelican]

This is for a different build now

[warm swift]

so you ok with any other part? @wanton cliff

[uncut estuary]

can you install vista off an sd card?

[wanton cliff]

It seems fine @warm swift

[wanton cliff]

Probably

[uncut estuary]

good

[wanton cliff]

Might need to burn it onto a disc

[uncut estuary]

i cant use my disk drive

[uncut pelican]

I might just go with intel because my clients need these pcs asap

[uncut estuary]

the psu on my test build only has one sata power

thats the only spare i have

it was an old hp compaq that i overhauled

[uncut pelican]

r9 3900x or i9-10900k

[uncut estuary]

sff

[wanton cliff]

10900k

[uncut pelican]

very good

[uncut estuary]

i could try and get the original psu up and running

the fan controller on it broke so its at a constant speed

[wanton cliff]

Rip

[uncut estuary]

so its super lout

[wanton cliff]

At least you get good cooling?

[uncut estuary]

yeah

loud cooling

It's a weird shape

also thats the laptop under it

[wanton cliff]

Not weird

[wanton cliff]

That’s pretty standard for old Inspirons and Optiplexes or whatever

[uncut estuary]

its hp

[wanton cliff]

Still

[uncut estuary]

also the hard drive is running 7

and its corupted

[wanton cliff]

Huh

Ofc

By what

[uncut estuary]

the drive from the laptop

idk

it wont start

[uncut pelican]

How do we feel about this for software dev and having multiple os

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CQvky4

[stoic island]

aio change

[uncut pelican]

aight

[stoic island]

change drive and hdd imo

[uncut pelican]

I might also change case

[stoic island]

change case

[uncut estuary]

it does the startup animation, then freezes, and the restarts in recovery mode

[stoic island]

PSU can be better

[uncut estuary]

i need a new instalation

[stoic island]

Focus plus GM is great, core GM is just meh iirc

that gpu I assume you already have it

[uncut estuary]

i need to write an sd card

disk drive is busted and i dont have a flash drive

even if I had a dvd drive, i have no disks to write it to

[hollow grail]

bad hdd

and

[stoic island]

@uncut pelican I'd go Freezer ii 280mm (~120$), SK Hynix P31 Gold 500gb SSD, either Toshiba x300 4tb ($100) or WD Blue 2tb with -AZ part nubmer (60$), Cougar MX410-mesh-g air,

[hollow grail]

id go 2x 500gb ssd

and 1x 4tb x300

[stoic island]

why's that?

[hollow grail]

cause they said multi os

[uncut pelican]

she wanted 500gb ssd and 2tb hdd

[hollow grail]

and booting 2 os off of one drive is stupid as hell

[muted patio]

You see the GN Freezer 480mm review?

[stoic island]

I mean

[uncut estuary]

i just looked in my parts bin and found a windows 10 disk

lol

[stoic island]

@muted patio yea, really interesting offset thing

[muted patio]

I know!!!

[uncut pelican]

What do you suggest for a gpu

[muted patio]

I'm intrigued

[uncut pelican]

it doesnt need to be good

[stoic island]

Are they going to do that for the rest of the lineup?

[muted patio]

3c difference

and yes, brackets are available for their other AIO's

[stoic island]

imo, GTX 1650 super as mininum nowadays

[muted patio]

GN sayus not worth the disassembly tho

for 3c

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DNHDXb

[stoic island]

hm?

I thought you just have to change the bracket

not like open up the pump or anything

[muted patio]

Right but it also doesn't fit all boards

IDK, he said not worth it to change the brackets

[stoic island]

I'll just edit the list

[hollow grail]

cant u get leadex iii for same as seasonic

but 750w

[muted patio]

I kind of agree for 3c delta

Interesting nonetheless

[stoic island]

I like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCW8sX

well GPU is prob worth a change

but too lazy

PSU same thing but cheaper, case moar airflow, better hdd, better aio, CPU basically the same

[hollow grail]

i still think 2 ssds

as someone who like

actually runs several os off of individual drives

[stoic island]

fair

but uh

@hollow grail what about just a crap ton of different vms that get like 200gb per on the hdd

[hollow grail]

thats what i host

[stoic island]

:P

that's one reason to go x300 4tb

but eh, blue works

@uncut pelican tbh I'd still try to get a better GPU for this system

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dCW8sX

[hollow grail]

oh no u dont run vm off of hdd

i tried that in my LA datacenter

i mean i cached them with ssd

and like

yea

but

[stoic island]

I mean

[hollow grail]

dont

[stoic island]

I kept running different virtualbox vms off my hdd

it was working fine

[hollow grail]

iops eat ass on hdd

[uncut estuary]

i swaped drives, going to write windows vista to am sd card, then hope you can boot off an sd card

[old dust]

anyone have any good recomendations for 60% keyboards?

[muted patio]

#peripherals-and-displays

Keeb peeps are there

[wanton cliff]

Razer Huntsman, whichever one is 60%

Keychron is good too

[old dust]

@wanton cliff i was thinking about the razor huntsman, but i have so many razer products its generic and boring... anything else?

razor hunts man is rlly good, but i already have the razor blackwidow elite

[small osprey]

keychron

[wanton cliff]

Idk where you are getting ‘generic and boring’ from but I’ll respect your opinion

Keychron

[small osprey]

dont get razer, expensive, and not that good either

[old dust]

i have like 5 or 6 razoer stuff

so i have too many, ergo generic

[wanton cliff]

Arguable

[stoic island]

@old dust #peripherals-and-displays is nice

But also, for 60%, something like a GK61 will do just fine

[small osprey]

its really not that good

[wanton cliff]

Matter of opinion

[old dust]

not generic as in its not cool (rgb is rlly good) but generic as in i need more

[wanton cliff]

Have you started watching Eva?

[old dust]

ty guys

[small osprey]

if they would just improve the case quality and reduce the switch wobble it would be much better

[wanton cliff]

I don’t notice any wobble

[small osprey]

the keycaps are rather wobbly

and its not that bad, just if your paying that much for a keyboard, have it be better

[wanton cliff]

That can be fixed with third party caps

But if you are paying for it you shouldn’t need to tbf

[small osprey]

for some reason, the netflix free trial thingy doesnt show up for me

[small osprey]

yea exactly

[wanton cliff]

Weird

[small osprey]

and cant watch anywhere else rip

without buying dvds or smth

[muted patio]

Sara

-_-

[wanton cliff]

What

[muted patio]

Unmentionables

[wanton cliff]

Nothing in rules about talking about pirating

[muted patio]

It's a given

[wanton cliff]

I mean

...

Fine

[uncut estuary]

yeah so my sd card reader is busted

[wanton cliff]

Rip

[hollow grail]

rip

[uncut estuary]

yeah i had 2

both dead

[paper jay]

Is using the legs on the case of my pc fine for putting it on the floor or will it still suck up dust

[quasi snow]

it's fine as long as you don't put it on carpet

[stoic island]

It's fair

[wanton cliff]

I use one of those things from ikea

That hang from the desk

[wary tundra]

@safe dawn is that your build?

[uncut estuary]

i just spent 10 minutes trying to put in the old psu into the computer

my computer sounds like im on a plane now

i found a blank disk i can burn

[icy idol]

Ryzen 5 3600x
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060ti
Gigabyte B450m DS3H V2
Corsair Vengeance 16GBs of ddr4
Western Digital 500GB SSD
Corsair CV series CV650 Power supply
Montech X2 Mesh ATX Mid-Tower case

How does it look

[wanton cliff]

Get the B550 DS3H

[muted patio]

And the corsair CV is a no from me

[wanton cliff]

And we don’t know ram speed

Or which WD SSD it is

[muted patio]

For corsair, CX or better

no CXM

[wanton cliff]

Also Veangence RAM generally kinda sucks

[muted patio]

For that system though, Segotep 650W is fine

[stoic island]

CV is uh yea

Segotep 600/650w will work fine

[muted patio]

Ye

https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Supply-Certified-Gaming-Fully-Modular/dp/B0832F6NS8

[stoic island]

SG-G should be on wegg for 60$

[wanton cliff]

The more I look at Vintage’s PFP the more I appreciate how sexy that bike is

[icy idol]

Ryzen 5 3600x
Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060ti
Gigabyte B550M DS3H
Corsair Vengeance 16GBs of ddr4 3200MHz
Western Digital 500GB WD Black SN750 SSD
Segotep 650W Power supply 80 Plus Gold
Montech X2 Mesh ATX Mid-Tower case

Better?

[muted patio]

Yes

[little osprey]

would be 3600mhz rams too 🤔

[muted patio]

Not so inmportant with 3600x TBH

[wanton cliff]

It’s useful but not as important

[little osprey]

yeah sometimes 3600mhz is just 2$ more so its worth it xd

[sharp blade]

haha some "millionare" bought a Gtx 1060 3gb for 4000€

[wanton cliff]

Why

[slender owl]

What’s a good set of 128gb ram?

[wanton cliff]

What literal brainlet would do that

[wanton cliff]

Only one I know is TridentZ Neo

Maybe Crucial has one as well?

[sharp blade]

and he's writing "supper fast but a little overkill but i like overkill so whatever dont buy this unless your a millionaire"

[wanton cliff]

Huh

[sharp blade]

i think its a joke

[wanton cliff]

I hope so

[sharp blade]

yeah its definitely a joke

he says he has a aio but in the pic there's a custom xD

[languid nimbus]

lots of snow this morning

[little osprey]

so you might be onto something

[wanton cliff]

7 inches, which adds up to 5 feet over the past 2 weeks

Gonna be fun driving home

[languid nimbus]

Not that much here but a lot for us

Never snows here hardly

And considering we weren’t supposed to get any, but it’s still snowing and we’ve got maybe 4 or 5 inches rn, dang

[wanton cliff]

Where?

[languid nimbus]

• 1” of ice underneath tho

Alabama

[wanton cliff]

Ah lol

Poor you

[languid nimbus]

It was 70°F a couple days ago

lmao

We don’t know how to deal with this weather

Just tornados and meth heads