building-and-recc-chat

[wanton cliff]

Vishera was a codename, wasn’t it?

[mild axle]

yes

[wanton cliff]

That’s not the name of the architecture then.

[mild axle]

ye i dont know

[wanton cliff]

So it was a pile driver.

[mild axle]

idk

and on top of having an fx and a 1050TI i only have 8gb of ram

i remember when 1gb was overkill

[wanton cliff]

8gb is enough but it’s only DDR3

[mild axle]

ye

[warm swift]

whos here good at seeing whats in really blurry photos

[uncut pelican]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-pentium-4-2-4a/p/N82E16819116178?Description=pentium 4&cm_re=pentium_4-_-19-116-178-_-Product

[wanton cliff]

Idk

Me I guess

[uncut pelican]

should i buy?

[muted patio]

Why

[uncut pelican]

because I have an old 2005 system that has that cpu and it would be a good work machine

new mobo, new ram, new hdd

it would cost me 250 to redo it

[muted patio]

That's gonna struggle with Windows 10 a bit

[uncut pelican]

theres the issue

its got xp pro rn

[wicked frigate]

Did the neweggshuffle end

[uncut pelican]

works fine

[wanton cliff]

Only Monday through Thursday

[wicked frigate]

Ohhhh

Thx

[tame sable]

Hello again#

[muted patio]

XP isn't even supported anymore. I hpe that machine won't be connected to a network or the internet

[uncut pelican]

its a great pc

easiest to hack tho

[wanton cliff]

AMD equivalent of pentium 4?

[muted patio]

Athlon

Like, Athlon 64 or something

[uncut pelican]

tbh I was going to just redo everything

like just use the case

use it as a sleeper

[wanton cliff]

My dad had an Athlon II, couldn’t even open chrome in W10

[muted patio]

Yup

I have my Athlon 2 in my shop toolbox lol

First CPU I ever cooked

[uncut pelican]

imagine cooking a cpu

silly goose

[muted patio]

Looks like this

[tame sable]

put a steak on it 🙂

[muted patio]

Thermal paste dried out

[wanton cliff]

How to keep a computer on without letting it thermal throttle so you can cook with it?

[muted patio]

Didn't know and it burned up

[uncut pelican]

and it would cook is the best part

[muted patio]

You can disable thermal limits in the BIOS on some boards

[tame sable]

lol

[warm swift]

question, ASUS B550-E or Gigabyte B550 Aorus Master?

[wanton cliff]

It’s an old emachine board, I don’t even know what the key to get in is

B550-E 100%

[muted patio]

Asus because I dislike Gigabyte BIOS with extreme prejudice

[warm swift]

why?

oh so because of the bios?

[tame sable]

imagine me on my pc and i hear mum on the floor and she has a steak. she says "making tea on ur cpu "

[wanton cliff]

All around better in every aspect, and ASUS bioses have always been awesome as hell

[uncut pelican]

LOL

[warm swift]

alright, asus it is

[muted patio]

I've had gigabyte boards

Meh

[uncut pelican]

I like my msi board

[wanton cliff]

Gigabyte is all around eh

Especially their crappy PSUs

[warm swift]

but they do make good gpu's tho right?

[wanton cliff]

No

[warm swift]

so the 3080 aorus master or xtreme is bad?

[wanton cliff]

I would say

Yeah

Although Aorus isn’t gigabyte

Not completely at least

[viral ore]

aorus is gigabyte

[wanton cliff]

Aorus is owned by gigabyte

[viral ore]

gigabyte is the brand, aorus is just the product line

like asus rog

[wanton cliff]

Gigabyte also has their own product line

Separate from Aorus

[viral ore]

i mean i guess you could phrase it like that

but aorus isnt a company

its more like a department of gigabyte

or a sub-division

[wanton cliff]

I suppose that’s true

[remote kelp]

@muted patio i think i found some sort of breakthrough for my issue

nvm it's being weird again

[viral ore]

either way, aorus mobos are pog. yeah, bios is meh, but you use the bios once and forget about it

[wanton cliff]

Not if you overclock a lot

[viral ore]

imo, whatever is cheaper

[wanton cliff]

But otherwise yeah

I 100% prefer Asus for my mobo needs tho

They’ve never once let me down

[worn wave]

Most manufacturers have good and bad products

[wanton cliff]

100%

But Asus generally makes good products

Their GPUs have been iffy in the past

But are good right now

[worn wave]

That's the only thing I would say also

[warm swift]

but i thought that the aorus master/xtreme 3080 gpu's are good tho

[worn wave]

Obviously all manufacturers have lower end boards that ain't the best compared to higher end boards

[wanton cliff]

They are eh

People like them because of those LCD panels on the side

But that’s pretty much it

They are heavy cards with iffy cooling

[mild axle]

whats goin on

just about to do some microscopy on my blood cells

[uncut pelican]

||rickrolled||

[wanton cliff]

Kek

[remote kelp]

okay i have no idea what's going on any more x.x

still getting "display driver has stopped responding and has recovered", but this time it blocked the heaven benchmark from accessing hardware

and then idk if this is related

[muted patio]

Did you ever install the nVidia driver or just let MS install it?

[warm swift]

do you know how to choose the right PSU? i want a 850W i chose i good one already the Bitfenix Whisper M 850W, but i just dont know if its the best one you know?

[remote kelp]

i tried both, seems to happen on both versions

i left the pc to sleep when i slept, woke it back up and it was fine

then tried a restart and boom

[muted patio]

that's a good one, it's fine

[warm swift]

alright but question, if i wanted to buy PSU extension cables, can i just get anyone, like even if its one from amazon? or will that affect something in the pc?

[remote kelp]

i managed to add a second pcie cable for the gpu btw, and also reseated it

in terms of driver version im using 461.4 (found the gpu always running on max thing, it was because max performance)

[wanton cliff]

I am here

@crude pecan

And the other person

[crude pecan]

hi

[wanton cliff]

I am here to help

[crude pecan]

I'll @ him

[fossil halo]

bruh sara really did me dirt tho ok i am in the LEARNING STAGES OF TECH SUPPORT

[crude pecan]

@abstract geyser also @wanton cliff the prebuilt is in the newegg giveaway I was saying if I got it I was going to swipe that 3060

[fossil halo]

wait what is the tldr pls

@crude pecan

[crude pecan]

wym

[fossil halo]

like what do you need help with

[crude pecan]

MikeOGame02/01/2021
Giveaway time: https://www.newegg.com/promotions/nepro/21-0121/index.html?cm_mmc=snc-discord-trf-_-sweepstakes-_-valentine-giveaway-vday-lp-_-020121

I don't need help

I'm here to help someone

but hes not switching to this channel

[fossil halo]

did he win that?

[crude pecan]

noo

I thought you were asking for that

he wants to build a pc for 1.1k

or find one

[fossil halo]

ah i see

[crude pecan]

yeah

[fossil halo]

sounds like 5600x 3060ti

[crude pecan]

I'm trying to find out if they want it future proofed or?

Yeah

probably

[fossil halo]

5600x b550 3060ti

easy case

[crude pecan]

maybe a little less on the cpu

[fossil halo]

nah

5600x 3060ti fits beatifully

[crude pecan]

because I see the 3060 = 650 5600x = 400

[fossil halo]

in a 1.1k budget

nah bro

what

3060 is 399

[crude pecan]

I've seen most 3060's for 600

really?

[fossil halo]

nah bro

[crude pecan]

Where?

[fossil halo]

best buy

[crude pecan]

ohh

[fossil halo]

like 450 maybe

[wanton cliff]

3060Ti*

[crude pecan]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

3060 is $330

[crude pecan]

oh the founders edition looking one?

[fossil halo]

tea

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-xc-gaming-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6444445.p?skuId=6444445

this one is like 460

[wanton cliff]

That’s EVGA

[fossil halo]

ima try and cop the 3060 one

evga is good

[wanton cliff]

Yeah ik

But also expensive

[fossil halo]

nah

other than the foundres

i think its the cheapest

[crude pecan]

oh yeah you're right

[wanton cliff]

And that’s an XC too

[fossil halo]

jsut bc founders kinda hard to get

[crude pecan]

I'm tryna get the 3070 from evga

[fossil halo]

bro just wait for the bb drops

[crude pecan]

I needa get the money first man

[fossil halo]

my friend just got one in the drop this tuesday

oh

u just gotta wake up on time for the drops

they start at 8 am here i think

usually on tuesdays

[crude pecan]

alr

sounds simple enough

[fossil halo]

it just is tbh like stock was really bad in january

bc no cards were given to retialers in jan

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nDjXp2
Would I be able to get stable 144-165 fps on a 1440p 144hz monitor with this build? Low-medium settings

[fossil halo]

most likwely

[abstract geyser]

do you find anything ?? @crude pecan

[crude pecan]

I need to ask you questions first

[abstract geyser]

yep

[crude pecan]

#1 would you like it to be future proofed?

[muted patio]

Oh heck yeah

[fossil halo]

rgb? wifi? upgrades in the future?

[crude pecan]

Meaning that you probably won't have to upgrade in the future

[muted patio]

Probs even high settings

[small osprey]

what's your budget @little osprey

[muted patio]

or better

[fossil halo]

1.1kl

[crude pecan]

*edit

editedrug92 is 1.1k

mcr idk

[abstract geyser]

yep

[crude pecan]

Once you answer my first question, what games are you trying to play?

[little osprey]

@small osprey 1000-1100 usd

[abstract geyser]

like gta

an things like that

[small osprey]

ok hold up

[fossil halo]

1k-1.1k is 5600x 3060ti

[crude pecan]

yeah

[fossil halo]

maybe like 3600+ 3070

[crude pecan]

Thats the best build for it

[abstract geyser]

ok wich one

[crude pecan]

Edit would you like it to be future proofed?

[little osprey]

@fossil halo How does the build look in genral. Could i go for 5600x over 10400f

[crude pecan]

Meaning you can upgrade to a rtx 3080 ti and be fine

no upgrades required

[abstract geyser]

yeah

[crude pecan]

Ok so thats atleast 650 watts, atleast 1 tb storage, 16gb ram all you need probably

[abstract geyser]

ok perfect

[small osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sMGcPV

[crude pecan]

I'll make you a buil-

[small osprey]

if you're near a microcenter that build is good

[crude pecan]

^ that build isn't for you editedrug

Its for mcr

[abstract geyser]

oh ok

[little osprey]

@small osprey Thank you

[small osprey]

np

[fossil halo]

below 1500 oyu can either go performance or looks

[small osprey]

you could spend the extra $50 on a mobo upgrade or smt

[little osprey]

What is better, 10600k or r5 5600x

[crude pecan]

in my opinion r5 5600x

[fossil halo]

5600 by far

[crude pecan]

but I don't like intel so

idk anything about intel cpus

[slate ore]

5600x

[small osprey]

10600k is good, with a healthy oc it can come close to 5600x

[little osprey]

Should I go 10600k or 5600x @small osprey

[small osprey]

thing is the 10600k is $190 and the 5600x is $300

and 5600x is outta stock a lot too

[little osprey]

Oh then I might have to go for 10600k to stay under budget

[slate ore]

Do yall know any good builds for 600 or under?

[crude pecan]

nope

not good perse

[small osprey]

i can find one, wait a second

[crude pecan]

I can find one

but it won't be good

[slate ore]

I wanna use it for forza and valorant

maybe VR

[crude pecan]

the gpu market is skyro-

600 for vr?

[slate ore]

ik

[crude pecan]

just get an oculus quest

or one of the ones that can run it without console / pc

[little osprey]

Is 10600k better than 10400f?

[small osprey]

yes

by quite some

[slate ore]

Well i also want to use it for pc only games

[little osprey]

So its worth the 40 usd

[small osprey]

yes

you can also oc it - oh wait no z490 board

[fossil halo]

in the cpu and gpu industry 90% of the time bigger number = more performance and more price

[little osprey]

Cool. I like your build that you gave me @small osprey

[crude pecan]

yeah

[small osprey]

lemme see if i can fit a z490 in that build

[little osprey]

How does the rest of it look, like psu, ram, and case

[crude pecan]

unless you see the radeon 5500

[crude pecan]

for this

[small osprey]

its pretty good, for the price

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wd8MK3

z490 board, will allow you to get some more perf

and get max ram speeds

[little osprey]

Ok nice thank you

[slate ore]

My current build is an intel pentium gold UHD 630, Asrock steel legend, G.skill aegis 3000mhz, Cooler Master masterbox Q500L, and EVGA BR

is there any parts i should change?

also a kingston 480gb ssd

[small osprey]

oh btw that processor is only that price at microcenter

so if you aren't near one its gonna be more expensive

[little osprey]

What is it online usualyl ?

[small osprey]

220 ish

[warm swift]

if i bought 3x corsair ll120 3 fan pack, which each one has a lighting node, will i need a commander pro?

[tropic ginkgo]

uhhhhh guys I am building my younger brother a pc for his Bday and what tha frik

[small osprey]

everything is like that now

[balmy patio]

yeee weird stuff is happening rn

not the best time to buy a gpu rn

[tropic ginkgo]

yes frik bitcoin

[small osprey]

its not bitcoin

[small osprey]

uhh i dont think so

[tropic ginkgo]

cripto in general

[small osprey]

no

[balmy patio]

demand > product and shipping costs are rising

[small osprey]

its mainly tariffs and stock shortage

[tropic ginkgo]

I think that its the ppl with nothing to do at there home and they try to buy gaming components

[little osprey]

is this a solid build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xJxcPV

[tropic ginkgo]

lemme see

[small osprey]

you could get much better stuff, whats your budget @little osprey

[tropic ginkgo]

sorry dude no graphics card no gamin

[little osprey]

this is a build i already have im looking to upgrade mobo gpu and ram

[tropic ginkgo]

oh

[balmy patio]

what gpu to you currently have?

[little osprey]

rtx 2080 superblower i think

[small osprey]

pny

[balmy patio]

well, the best noticeable upgrade might be a 3070, 6800/xt, or 3080

[remote kelp]

@muted patio i just ddu'd my driver again (since it had a fit with heaven benchmark and blocked it from the gpu) and i'm using MS's v457 right now, heaven benchmark runs great but i suspect it'll only last until the next restart

[balmy patio]

maximum would be a 3070 with that psu

[small osprey]

would say don't buy 3070

get 3080 or above

and upgrade psu to 850w

[tropic ginkgo]

@little osprey a meh for the blower but no prob dude you just need to give me that GPU!

[small osprey]

phanteks amp, focus gx, corsair rmx, enermax revolution d.f

[balmy patio]

@little osprey what's your budget for upgrading?

like, how much are you willing to pay for the upgrades

[quiet parrot]

I'm building a new system and need some advice. See anything wrong with this build or suggestions? https://newegg.io/37b85b5

[little osprey]

500

[small osprey]

everything is good except for that psu

what gpu are you planning on getting?

[balmy patio]

what are you gonna use the system for?

[quiet parrot]

Why, psu needs more watts?

[small osprey]

its a bad one

and yea

especially for those parts

[quiet parrot]

What PSU would you recommend?

[tropic ginkgo]

for your pc to work

[small osprey]

well, first what gpu do you plan on getting

3080?

[fossil halo]

amp

[small osprey]

3070?

[quiet parrot]

I have an NVIDIA Quadro M6000

[balmy patio]

ight, i'll see what i can do

[autumn aurora]

Build update

[little osprey]

ok

[small osprey]

hm i would get either the 750w phanteks amp, or the 850w enermax rev d.f.

[balmy patio]

how many fans do you currently have in ur case?

and what memory config do you already have

[mild axle]

hi

[quiet parrot]

Corsair isn't a good brand or what?

[mild axle]

im making stuff on blender tht will probabaly turn into a mame

[tropic ginkgo]

hi old school gaming config

[balmy patio]

it is, but it's pricey in the us

[abstract geyser]

is it an good graphic card ??

[tropic ginkgo]

no

[fossil halo]

@autumn aurora is that an igpu build?

[small osprey]

for workstation, yes

[mild axle]

this rig is actually my best rig 😦

[quiet parrot]

ok, thanks

[fossil halo]

its not bad its just outdated

still works well enough today

[small osprey]

^

[autumn aurora]

Nope , the build is not done , Will get a 3070

[tropic ginkgo]

no prob dude I am just saying that its old and who am I to talk I have a laptop xD

[abstract geyser]

Radeon Rx 570 is it good ??

[small osprey]

not really

[autumn aurora]

For 1080 it is

[mild axle]

laptops aint bad

[tropic ginkgo]

and for some reason the pc I have planned to build MOUNTHS ago got the gpu and cpu canceled

[hollow grail]

laptops are pog

[small osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-19259515

[muted patio]

Interesting. Are you sure WIndows is 100% up to date? 20H2 with all updates?

[hollow grail]

just not good value

[muted patio]

Even the optional ones?

[tropic ginkgo]

R U SURE

[fossil halo]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-gif-19259515

[balmy patio]

laptops are cool if you need the mobile aspect

[mild axle]

ye

[torpid jewel]

Can I share my build here for advice?

[mild axle]

cool fluid sim

[remote kelp]

@muted patio yeah 20H2

[severe axle]

still within safe operating temps

[small osprey]

yes

[small osprey]

yea uh huh i bet

[remote kelp]

i found out something weird too though, it ran heaven just fine, but then i started another game which caused it to blackscreen (god knows why) in the intro loading sequence, and it started triggering the error again

[tropic ginkgo]

I got an HP 450 G1 4 gb ram DDR3 1300mhz

[hollow grail]

honestly idc how hot my stuff gets

[quiet parrot]

enermax is the company or a model? I only find phantek

[hollow grail]

as long as it doesnt throttle

enermax company

[torpid jewel]

Would love advice on this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NfgJ2V

[small osprey]

the full name is revolution d.f.

enermax is the company

[hollow grail]

https://enermaxusa.com/

[quiet parrot]

got it!

[small osprey]

5600x kinda bad deal, are you near a microcenter?

[tropic ginkgo]

no HDD?

[small osprey]

you dont need a hdd

[torpid jewel]

nope :/ Im prolly just gonna wait till they go back to $300

[tropic ginkgo]

bulk game storage

[torpid jewel]

dont need it atm

ill prolly add hdd later

[tropic ginkgo]

trust me you will

[small osprey]

you dont need it

[autumn aurora]

Get a better m.2 like WD black , get an aftermarket cpu cooler (air or liquid)

[small osprey]

who said he's gonna install loads of games

[remote kelp]

@muted patio maybe one of my games is doing weird things to the display driver / gpu

[balmy patio]

you can upgrade storage in the future smh

[small osprey]

get a better cooler tho

[abstract geyser]

what can i have for 1.1k

[tropic ginkgo]

I just bought a 3tb hdd 5200rpm for my laptop its allready half full

[balmy patio]

it's like the easiest and cheapest upgrade besides fans

[muted patio]

It could be a game issue yeah, if it's only with one game

[small osprey]

well thats you

not everyone needs that much storage

[hollow grail]

lol anything over 2tb in 2.5 inch form factor is cursed

[hollow grail]

dont try to flex storage space while im in this chat

[autumn aurora]

Buy an HDD only if you need to store lots of stuff , for speed go SATA SSD or m.2 SSD

[small osprey]

3.5" ssd

[remote kelp]

after ddu heaven worked fine, then i started up this one game, the screen went black temporarily on the startup sequence, and then it started giving the event error for everything else again

[small osprey]

here i come

[hollow grail]

ehhhhhhhhh

[muted patio]

What game?

[hollow grail]

imo every 500gb of ssd should have 2tb of hdd behind it

its cheap enough to make sense

[autumn aurora]

I bought 2 m.2’s 1tb each

[torpid jewel]

what do yall think of the case? better case under $100 with good airflow?

[remote kelp]

twin saga, the startup sequence where the company logo appears makes me blackscreen temporarily

[tropic ginkgo]

The laptop only got minecraft and RAVENFIELD installed so yeaaaah MC is 4gb and RF is 789mb the rest of the 1.578tb is docs and important things

[tropic ginkgo]

YES GOOD SIR!

[remote kelp]

i could try dduing it again and launch something else, see if the same thing happens

[muted patio]

OH my

[autumn aurora]

Hdds are cheaper because of their speed lol

[muted patio]

I see why now

It's DIrectX version 9

[remote kelp]

wait what

[hollow grail]

small

[torpid jewel]

is microcenter the only place I can get the 5600x for MSRP?

[quiet parrot]

For $30 more, how about the Phantek Revolt Pro, 1000W?

[muted patio]

You probs need to install some stuff you don't have

[remote kelp]

ooooh, maybe

[balmy patio]

the case is good, you should also look into the p400a digital, lancool II mesh and 220t rgb airflow, others do exist put at a higher price range

[muted patio]

Ye

Lemme look

[autumn aurora]

I don’t plan on using too much stuff

[hollow grail]

weak

[tropic ginkgo]

@torpid jewel ATX or MATX or ITX

[torpid jewel]

ATX

[tropic ginkgo]

k

[fossil halo]

itz

itx is poggers

[small osprey]

why do you have 1.5tb of docs

[tropic ginkgo]

work

[hollow grail]

get crushed nerd

[small osprey]

google drive much

[small osprey]

72 cores at 3ghz?!

[tropic ginkgo]

no effect xD

[hollow grail]

yea baby

[small osprey]

wtf

[autumn aurora]

Bruh

[hollow grail]

thats a shared server

[small osprey]

how hot does that get

[hollow grail]

not entirely mine so i wouldnt be able to tell you

[small osprey]

oh lol

[hollow grail]

my stuff is cooler than that

[tropic ginkgo]

my google drive is allready full with the thing I payed for 50gbs @small osprey

[balmy patio]

i wonder how loud it gets

[hollow grail]

probs decently quiet

[small osprey]

well i wouldn't know

[autumn aurora]

Wtf do you store in there

[hollow grail]

rackmount wise

[small osprey]

i haven't even filled up this 1tb ssd yet

[remote kelp]

@muted patio i ran dxdiag and it says i have directx 12

[hollow grail]

im close to 1pb of data actually

but that box just has like

[balmy patio]

yeah, what kinda stuff do you store there

[muted patio]

Yeah, it should, it came with Windows 10

[hollow grail]

12tb on that one

[hollow grail]

seedbox

[tropic ginkgo]

I bet you don't have more than 5 game installed with more than 50 gigs

[small osprey]

i have like one game installed

on my mac that is

[tropic ginkgo]

logic

[remote kelp]

ah i see, but would i still need directx 9?

[small osprey]

lili gibe me music

[autumn aurora]

2tb should do me good for what I want lol , if not then I will buy a 8tb HDD

[muted patio]

No but possibly some other files. investigating..........

[hollow grail]

2tb is like

a day

for me

lol

[small osprey]

lili gibe music

[tropic ginkgo]

make sure you install CoD:Warfare with the warzone and Full assets and skins with all DLCs

[small osprey]

who still plays cod

[tropic ginkgo]

every one

[small osprey]

no one

[tropic ginkgo]

not you but 60% of morocco plays CoD and trust me america is no different

[balmy patio]

i sometimes turn on my 360 and play some bo2, feels good tbh

[tropic ginkgo]

what is BO2

[balmy patio]

black ops 2

[tropic ginkgo]

oh

I used to play it on my old office pc but I do talk about the first

[muted patio]

Try grabbing the lastest C++ stuff to be sure it's up to date: https://aka.ms/vs/16/release/vc_redist.x64.exe

[remote kelp]

ah, psy gave me that yesterday

[muted patio]

Hmmmmm

Lemme investigate more

[autumn aurora]

I’m a noob , what is seedbox

[muted patio]

Stuff we shouldn't get too deep in here because it involves torrents and mostly illegal file sharing

[hollow grail]

just a vps with high speed internet that you can run bittorrent off of

[remote kelp]

i also uninstalled some previous c++ versions so the only ones installed are the 2015-2019 for x64/86

[autumn aurora]

Oh, like a torrent/ pirate stuff server

[hollow grail]

i use mine to help host a bunch of archive projects

such as flashpoint

[muted patio]

Not all but a lot of it is, yes

[hollow grail]

and some others

bittorrent is just peer to peer file sharing

[autumn aurora]

So you are using all that as a server rather than a personal use pc

[hollow grail]

i mean i have several servers

i literally like

sell virtual machine instances

[autumn aurora]

So you make good money out of them

[hollow grail]

i mean decent money

[tropic ginkgo]

yo @torpid jewel

[remote kelp]

@muted patio oh this is interesting, something automatically reinstalled the 2008 c++

[hollow grail]

i just like helping people host their projects

[autumn aurora]

Nice

[remote kelp]

i'm pretty sure i got rid of that yesterday

[muted patio]

Probs your game 😉

[hollow grail]

that server has 400gbps internet so i use it mostly to host

[remote kelp]

probably, it's a 2016 game so wouldn't be surprised

[tropic ginkgo]

@torpid jewel I gotcha sumthin

[hollow grail]

not that i see that speed ever

im lucky to get 40-10gbps

since its a shared server

[tropic ginkgo]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353140?Item=N82E16811353140 @torpid jewel

[hollow grail]

recently we introduced amd ryzen hosting

so thats fun

[torpid jewel]

That is sick!

[hollow grail]

most of lililabs only runs at 1gbps

[tropic ginkgo]

there are more led colors cus its RGB

[hollow grail]

but some of it gets that sweet 10gbps

[remote kelp]

@muted patio heaven benchmark still dying after 5 seconds though

[tropic ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/rgb-rgb-intensifies-intensifies-intense-corsair-rgb-gif-13433637

[hollow grail]

i sell those instances for the big moners tho

[autumn aurora]

Nice hehe

[hollow grail]

only 200/month

for like 5tb of 10gbps goodness

[autumn aurora]

My wifi card can go 4gb per second but I rarely get 10mb per second of wifi here , lol

[hollow grail]

lmfao

https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/58dd76ad-0cb9-4af5-ab24-54ac04d1fb0c

lililabs speedz

test is old as hell because i max out every speedtest node

[autumn aurora]

😧

Fast af

[tropic ginkgo]

in heaven

[visual dawn]

LOL I tried the speed test. I should quit.

[autumn aurora]

Lol

[visual dawn]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/10920341904

[hollow grail]

lol

[visual dawn]

omg 9.73 is actualy worse than me. congratz!

[tropic ginkgo]

want to get me embarrassed?

[hollow grail]

yeah the main reason why i sell vps is so people can host their own projects

every lililabs instance has 1 gigabit internet

up and down

i dont believe in settling for less

[autumn aurora]

I can’t afford 200 month , ouch

[tropic ginkgo]

https://www.speedtest.net/result/10920348948

😦

[visual dawn]

ooh, you win the turtle war

[hollow grail]

oh no my actual stuff is cheap

if u dont want 10gbps

[fossil halo]

im supposed to have like 300 but sometimes i get like 350

[desert gulch]

at least ping isnt that bad

[hollow grail]

like maybe 100 a year or so

[desert gulch]

20 ping aint horrible

[tropic ginkgo]

yeah yeah

say watcha want

[autumn aurora]

1gbps and I’m happy

[tropic ginkgo]

imagin me downloading CoD warzone

[desert gulch]

i can

a week

[hollow grail]

then yeah like

i dont sell on here

[autumn aurora]

Dm me

[tropic ginkgo]

that means you can download 40 times warzone in 1 second

[visual dawn]

probably like me with internet provider dropping the speed and upping the price every year.

[tropic ginkgo]

so true

[visual dawn]

So in true noob fashion, I'm having trouble telling what is the better mobo. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157981?Item=N82E16813157981 or https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z590-a-gaming-wifi/p/N82E16813119371

the first one is the one i purchased but not it's not in stock, I'm considering just getting the other one and a cheap gpu just to survive

[desert gulch]

what cpu?

[tropic ginkgo]

@visual dawn I advise you to be a bit patient tho

[visual dawn]

i have an 10th gen intel i9

[desert gulch]

what i9?

i9 is just a tier

[visual dawn]

3.7 GHz

[desert gulch]

like a 10900k or 10850k?

[visual dawn]

10900KF>

[desert gulch]

ok

id wait tbh

[visual dawn]

the steel legend is better?

[desert gulch]

i think the asus one is

but its way more

[remote kelp]

@muted patio i think it just re-stabilised itself, but only until i decide to restart the pc again

[muted patio]

You're not gonna like

Seriously try the second power cable

I know it's a PITA

But everything else seems to be in place

[visual dawn]

I'm just trying to future proof as best as possible.

[remote kelp]

@muted patio i kinda already like put in the second cable yesterday

[visual dawn]

hey Vintage!

[muted patio]

Orly

Well crap

[remote kelp]

i mean all i gotta do is

never restart the cpu right

;-;

oh benchmark just crashed again

OH WAIT

a ton of errors just

popped up

hold on

new stuff

[fossil halo]

i like hummus and falafel too

HAHAHAHA IM SO FUNNY EVERY ONE LAUGH NOW

[small osprey]

ha

ha

ha

[remote kelp]

@muted patio

gpc4 same thing, gpc3 same thing

[fossil halo]

i just got back my grade for a math test which i failed

and im just redoing the questions

and im so confused how hard can one brain fart during a test

[remote kelp]

gpc 0 to 5 all have that "save restore addr oob" thingy and then there's a graphics exception for each of those

with the same code

[visual dawn]

I joined my calculus three weeks late. yea i didn't do too hot on the exam either. at least you have a redo

[remote kelp]

@muted patio googled it and found something on microsoft response, someone suggested that it was because the driver didnt support everything for the gpu?

[muted patio]

Mmmm, no

[fossil halo]

nah i dont have a redo

im just doing it to see if the problems were actually hard

and surprise surprise theyre not

its not even calculus

literal algebra 2

[small osprey]

f

[remote kelp]

@muted patio could it be openGL? i don't think i have opengl on this pc

[potent portal]

That's built in to the drivers

[remote kelp]

ah, hmm

[muted patio]

I doubt it

The more I look into this

The more it looks like you may need to RMA

We've done everything or just about everything I can think of

[little osprey]

Do you think a ryzen 9 5900x can handle a 64gb 3600c16 Kit

Just for curiousity

[muted patio]

Yes

[potent portal]

Of course, why wouldn't it?

[little osprey]

I thought ryzen can’t handle higher Storage with faster speed

[potent portal]

Mmmm no. It can definitely handle 4000+ RAM if you just set the infinity fabric to a level where it doesn't crash.

[tropic ginkgo]

guys how about doing a gaming pc parts list contest

[potent portal]

They tested 5000s before launch and said it's a decent chance you could even get 1:1 speed up to 4000, so the fclk is at 2000. 1800 (with 3600 RAM) is easy.

[potent portal]

We kinda do that every day lol. Every time someone asks for a list with a budget you get 3 different lists posted.

[tropic ginkgo]

no like an ACTUAL contest where ppl try there best

not like yeah good GPU/CPU

you get what I mean

[small osprey]

with any budget?

[balmy patio]

^

[small osprey]

like unlimited?

or what

[balmy patio]

it'll prolly be better if it were on a fixed budget

[tropic ginkgo]

no

[balmy patio]

but that happens everyday like fal'cie said

[potent portal]

I think all us builders keep a dream build tucked away on pcpartpicker

[balmy patio]

hehe

[tropic ginkgo]

like there are 2 sweet spots

[muted patio]

Nah, I have mine.

[small osprey]

ikr

[tropic ginkgo]

1000$ and 600$

[muted patio]

Only thing that could change is CPU but not worth it

[balmy patio]

what's your current setup?

[small osprey]

nah, 1k and 2k

[potent portal]

$600? You'd need an iGPU build for that price these days

[small osprey]

^

[tropic ginkgo]

is this a rich people joke that I can't understand

[small osprey]

not really

[balmy patio]

1k isn't that bad nowadays

[small osprey]

nowadays you need 1k to be able to work with lol

[tropic ginkgo]

HOLD UP

give me like 5 minutes to make a 600$ Worth it 2021 build

with a gpu

[balmy patio]

you won't find a decently priced gpu nowadays

nothing close to msrp or recommended price

[muted patio]

Heh. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V83B9N

[potent portal]

Yeah, with a crappy case, mobo, and psu. $600 is the cost of a good GPU right now.

[tropic ginkgo]

xD yeah

[tropic ginkgo]

just wait for next summer things will clm down

[worn wave]

NZXT Refurbished has some somewhat decent GPUs

[little osprey]

How is the 6700xt and 6700 compared to the 3060ti?

[remote kelp]

@muted patio would it help if i mentioned this is a msi ventus 2x oc card?

[balmy patio]

1660s for 190 dang

[remote kelp]

like, maybe if i removed the overclock somehow?

[worn wave]

yeah not bad at all especially rn

[small osprey]

this ur setup?

[muted patio]

[potent portal]

Pretty well, 6700XT is equal or better

[little osprey]

evga makes AIOs?

the hell

[muted patio]

Have for a whlie now

Check the GN tests for it

😉

[muted patio]

You can underclock with MSI afterburner

BUt if you have to do that, it needs an RMA anyway

[remote kelp]

oh, i kinda underclocked it already

[muted patio]

Yikes

[potent portal]

Yeah if it can't maintain factory clocks, or overclocks as case may be, it needs a RMA

[muted patio]

I'd honestly RMA/return it. Seems to be defective

Temps are fine

Drivers are fine

PSU is good

Card goes bork

[remote kelp]

what about ram?

[balmy patio]

there is no 6700/xt 😳

[potent portal]

Not with those errors, highly unlikely

[worn wave]

This is also somewhat decent

[muted patio]

No, those errors are very specific to GPU

[potent portal]

And if you're talking about the $600 builds that's more than half the total

[little osprey]

@potent portal Would it be worth it to get the 6700 with this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/48y4mk

[worn wave]

?

[little osprey]

@balmy patio its coming out feb25

new amd card

[worn wave]

I diddnt say anything about $600 builds?

[potent portal]

We were just talking about that, sorry disregard

[potent portal]

With a 10400f? Yeah that would work fairly well

But maybe wait for the B560

[balmy patio]

fr? well if it is true then no one would know how it compares to sum like a 3060/ti

besides amd and "leaks"

[little osprey]

@balmy patio true but there have been some leakes

if 6700 is better than 3070 might be a bottleneck at 1080p

esp with 2666mhz ram

[potent portal]

If it scales like the higher end cards compared to nvidia then yeah the 6700 should match or beat a 3060

[little osprey]

@potent portal should I upgrade to 10600k or stay with 10400f if im on a budget

under 1k ish

[balmy patio]

10600kf is at 215 bucks rn

[potent portal]

If you go for a K processor you'll want an overclocking motherboard too

[balmy patio]

or get a 10700f + b560 mobo when it comes out

[little osprey]

Na

for 10700 prices you can just buy a 10850k

350$ rn at mc

[balmy patio]

fr?

[little osprey]

Yep

[balmy patio]

i don't live near a micro center smh

[little osprey]

they can ship it to you iirc

nvm

Im prolly gonna stick with 10400f, and try and get 6700.

I heard the 6700 will be around $350

[balmy patio]

the 10700f should be 230-250

[little osprey]

if tariff doesnt go away 400$

Meaning if 3060 ti beats it 3060 ti will be a better choice

@little osprey Yeah ill just get the better specs gpu

@balmy patio when is the 10700f coming out?

FE cards dont get affected by tariff so watch best buy if 3060 ti is better

[balmy patio]

the 10700f has been a thing since like april

[little osprey]

Oh is it an i5?

[balmy patio]

no

i7-10700f

[remote kelp]

it's definitely not something like the gpu socket on mobo?

[little osprey]

Oh shoot ive been looking up the wrong thing

[muted patio]

Try it in another slot to rule that out if you want

[balmy patio]

smh

[muted patio]

x8 vs x16 won't hurt anything

[little osprey]

@balmy patio how do the 10400f and 10700f compare?

[potent portal]

2 more cores, 4 more threads

[balmy patio]

^

and on the b460 chipset, you get capped at 2933mhz instead of 2666

[tropic ginkgo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qcj2fP did my best and I failed the 600$ but 750$!

[balmy patio]

1650s for almost 400 bucks smh

[worn wave]

you can get one for $189 NZXT refurb

[balmy patio]

refurbished smh

[worn wave]

1660 super*

[tropic ginkgo]

DAAANG

[balmy patio]

not that bad tho for a refurbished 1660s

[tropic ginkgo]

that even better than MSRP

[worn wave]

Those NZXT refurb parts are most likely just parts from returned NZXT BLD PCs

[tropic ginkgo]

yeah xD

[remote kelp]

@muted patio oh right, is it normal for gpu to sag a little when you slot it in?

[wanton cliff]

What are we talking about

[wanton cliff]

A little bit

And you don’t need to ping him every time

[muted patio]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

I would get a sag bracket if it is sagging too much (a lot of GPUs these days actually come with one)

[remote kelp]

It was sagging until i screwed it in, was wondering if that affected anything

[wanton cliff]

Wait

It wasn’t screwed in?

[balmy patio]

you should always screw in the gpu

[wanton cliff]

Check to see if there was any damage to the PCIe thing

[balmy patio]

steel armor on the pcie slot isn't enough for a chonky new shiny gpu

[wanton cliff]

Especially with the thicc heatsinks they come with nowadays

[remote kelp]

Lol dw it was screwed in

[fossil halo]

should i take 2 aps junior 3 aps or 4

[wanton cliff]

Not really the right place to ask

#general-chat

[balmy patio]

smh

[desert gulch]

yes there is

looks like itll have half the vram

[wanton cliff]

False

It’s the card that’s in the Xbox Series consoles

Which have 16 gigs of shared VRAM/RAM from the card

[balmy patio]

i thought that was the 6800

[desert gulch]

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-rx-6700-6gb-memory-capacity/

[wanton cliff]

It’s a slightly underpowered version that people think it the 6700 XT

Wait

[balmy patio]

meant to say it as, unreleased, like the 3060

[wanton cliff]

6 isn’t half

[desert gulch]

6 is half of 12?

6700xt has 12

[wanton cliff]

Oh lol

[desert gulch]

lol

yeah

[wanton cliff]

My brain small

[balmy patio]

sara smh

what a smoothbrain smh

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-smooth-brain-gif-19433430

[wanton cliff]

My brain is square and I am often confused

[balmy patio]

understandable

[uncut pelican]

My brain is not here

[alpine thunder]

Gonna need some assistance here

[wanton cliff]

Ask away

[alpine thunder]

Nothing will display on my.monitor

[heady crest]

i have an rtx 3080 + R7 3800X @uncut pelican

[wanton cliff]

What motherboard, CPU, and GPU do you have?

[alpine thunder]

So its gonna be a lengthy post

But just give me some time to type

[balmy patio]

have you tried different ports on the monitor and gpu?

oh ok, will do

[wanton cliff]

I’m asking the questions here

[balmy patio]

: (

[wanton cliff]

Lemme handle this one

[balmy patio]

i'll jus spectate smh

maybe find a new pfp

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

[alpine thunder]

Deepcool tristellar
Asus rog strix itx
Ryzen 7 3700x
Samsung 970 evo plus 2tb m.2
32gb ddr4 4000Mhz
Asus ryuo 120 aio
Lian li strimers
Msi rx570

That's basically everything

[wanton cliff]

ITX?

[alpine thunder]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

Odd

[balmy patio]

what case?

[wanton cliff]

A 120mm AIO was a mistake but we are well past that point already

[alpine thunder]

Deepcool tristellar

[balmy patio]

prolly the best cooling solution for his case

[wanton cliff]

Coulda gone 240

100% better performance

[balmy patio]

oh wow

that case looks awesome

[wanton cliff]

Anyways what GPU do you have @alpine thunder

[alpine thunder]

Rx570

Msi

[wanton cliff]

Also nice halo references in your name and PFP

[balmy patio]

i see why he went with a 120mm aio

[alpine thunder]

Yup

[wanton cliff]

Screenshot case

[alpine thunder]

Scroll up a bit

[wanton cliff]

Send here

[alpine thunder]

You'll see legit everything involved

[wanton cliff]

I thought you mistyped X570 as in the board

[wanton cliff]

Certainly... interesting

[alpine thunder]

The board is x570 as well

[wanton cliff]

Ok cool

[alpine thunder]

So

[wanton cliff]

Can you see indicator lights on it?

Should be top right, next to RAM

[alpine thunder]

I thought it was the gpu, I took it to a pc store here and it's displays fine

No issues

White led post state is on

And it seems like the thing is continually cycling its boot

[balmy patio]

did you just build it?

[wanton cliff]

So it’s a VGA issue then

[alpine thunder]

Yup

Just built

[wanton cliff]

You sure the thing is plugged in correctly?

To power?

[alpine thunder]

I most certainly

[wanton cliff]

Also what PSU do you have (specific model)

[alpine thunder]

Fans spin up

1000w seasonic gold

[wanton cliff]

Is it fully modular or semi?

[alpine thunder]

Fully

[wanton cliff]

Check GPU cables on it

And plugged into the card as well

[small osprey]

make sure everything is connected securely

[alpine thunder]

Yup

Indeed

[small osprey]

check all connections

front panel connectors

gpu/psu connectors

[alpine thunder]

Yup all in

Idk if I can send picture here

Can i?

[wanton cliff]

Yep

Sure can

[alpine thunder]

I took the m.2 out to test something

[wanton cliff]

Ok well def plug that back in

Is that RAM in dual channel?

Oh wait

ITX board

Nevermind

[wanton cliff]

Just take the VGA power out of both the GPU and PSU and plug them back in as soon as you turn your PSU off, please

Even if something looks fine it might not be in all the way

[alpine thunder]

Take them out while it's on?

[wanton cliff]

No

turn PSU off

Also just out of curiosity why did you go with a 570 instead of literally any other card?

[alpine thunder]

It was free

Since we're in a pc recession right now

[wanton cliff]

Oh yeah

Alright

[alpine thunder]

Part of a package deal

[wanton cliff]

Well get that replaced when you can, it’s gonna be the bottleneck

[muted patio]

It's bootlooping

[wanton cliff]

Did you fix the power cables?

[muted patio]

We been through this in DM's lol

[wanton cliff]

You and prophet or you and me?

[alpine thunder]

Vintage has been my care taker

[wanton cliff]

Vintage is everyone’s care taker

[balmy patio]

vintage is the care taker

[wanton cliff]

Everyone loves vintage

[muted patio]

NOt everyone

[alpine thunder]

I've replaced into psu

[wanton cliff]

He’s gonna be more popular than any of the mods when he becomes one

[alpine thunder]

Now im replugging into psu

[balmy patio]

naed is also a cool dude but he hasn't been online inna long time : (

[potent portal]

I've been here less than a week and I figured that out the first day lol

[muted patio]

God I hope not

Anyway

It bootloops according to prophet

GPU isnt the issue

But interesting part

[wanton cliff]

It’s stuck on VGA light tho?

[muted patio]

WIth no drive installed, there is no BOOT LED

Nah, only sticks on VGA when we remove the card

Like it should

With card in, it just cycles

[wanton cliff]

That’s not what I was told from him but ok

[muted patio]

Well what did they say here?

[wanton cliff]

He never explicitly stated that the card was or wasn’t plugged in, he just said it was on the VGA led

[muted patio]

Still sticks on VGA?

[alpine thunder]

Alright

[little osprey]

what even happened

[alpine thunder]

Plugged back in

I never got to finish explaining everything

But thats ok

Here now so

[wanton cliff]

Well then, explain

[heady crest]

where are the rats lol?

dont feel bad @alpine thunder mine looks the same way dude

[remote kelp]

update, put it in x8 slot, tried phasmophobia, seems to be fine so far

[muted patio]

Orly, interesting. Full clocks?

[wanton cliff]

Odd that a card would work in 8x but not 16x

[muted patio]

Might be mobo slot

Or defective card still

[remote kelp]

oh wait

that was a spike but still fine

it's like

1500

1500-1700

maybe i didnt seat it properly in the top slot

cuz i have an aio

[heady crest]

gj

[remote kelp]

with heavy tubes

[heady crest]

imma oc mine to 4.2 ghz soon

[alpine thunder]

So I turn on the system and nothing will display. That's the big issue. I've tried running it with 1 stick in each slot and without the m.2, the motherboard works fine it seems. No issues with anything else. The the post state led's will cycle and mainly either stay white or stay yellow. Occasionally turning red then switching to the others.

[muted patio]

Right

[wanton cliff]

Why would you do it without the M.2?

[muted patio]

if you don't touch anything, do they continuously cycle?

[alpine thunder]

Yup

[little osprey]

damn that memory is slow

[muted patio]

Right, so it's bootlooping

[little osprey]

but then again its gddr6

[alpine thunder]

Vintage why did I do this?

[muted patio]

Because we got it to stay on VGA with no VGA

[wanton cliff]

Ah

[heady crest]

oof your right, i got a 3600 kit

[wanton cliff]

You want it to post?

[muted patio]

next step was to see if it paused on BOOT LED

And it doesn't

[little osprey]

no thats vram

on that picture

[muted patio]

IMO, board bad because even with one stick it still doesn't work.

No way to flashback either

Already did CMOS reset

Anyone else?

[remote kelp]

kay nvm i actually started a game and it did the thing again

game freezes but still runs in background

[muted patio]

That same game?