building-and-recc-chat

[blazing pilot]

Ok

[hollow grail]

wow im tired

its $100 so why not

[jagged ember]

Yeah why not

[hollow grail]

considering 2tb is like $50

and this is a very good drive

[mortal garnet]

o lili, is the 970 plus worth 20 bucks more

over the non plus version

[blazing pilot]

Am change 3080 founder to I think it’s calledmsi-geforce-rtx-3080-10-gb-suprim-x-video-card-rtx3080-suprim-x-10

I copied and pasted and am on phone

That’s why I left the dash

[mortal garnet]

suprim card is gonna be like 300 more lol

if not more

[blazing pilot]

Oh shoot

[jagged ember]

If you want to pay that sure

But I wouldn't lol

[mortal garnet]

ftw3 and aourus master is priced really nice

for what theyre giving u

[blazing pilot]

Any good gpu

[hollow grail]

at that point the p31 gold is the best

[mortal garnet]

ima be getting 50 bucks in samsung credit, so ima be sticking with samsung drives

[hollow grail]

oh makes sense

[mortal garnet]

its gonna come down to like 120 at most

if i go with the plus

if not then maybe like 90 for non plus

[hollow grail]

id get the plus then just cause it has their better nand

[mortal garnet]

kk

[hollow grail]

will hopefully last longer

[mortal garnet]

and bruh, i think you replied my msg in peripheral

but typed it in displays

youre down bad lili

[hollow grail]

did i

[mortal garnet]

yea

you should sleep lmao

[hollow grail]

nu

sleep is for SUCKERS

im setting up a cdn

[mortal garnet]

what time is it for u

[hollow grail]

like 4

[mortal garnet]

ggs

pst best time

[blazing pilot]

So what gpu is good to pick cus when I picked it was overpriced

[mortal garnet]

legit any other card lmao

you picked one of the most expensive model

[blazing pilot]

Well question does the case come in black

[mortal garnet]

yep

[blazing pilot]

Ok

[mortal garnet]

id look at the p500a too

i personally think that case is better

but its preference

[blazing pilot]

Does the cooler come in black

[mortal garnet]

i think their is a black version

yup there is

chromax edition

[blazing pilot]

P500a is more expensive

Tho

[mortal garnet]

if youre going for an all black build id go with evga xc3 3080 and a arctic freezer instead

ye true

[blazing pilot]

Can u edit it’s hard on phone

[mortal garnet]

well my version is gonna cost more

[blazing pilot]

By how much

[mortal garnet]

more expensive case and cooler

and gpu

and im not sure

[blazing pilot]

Sure let me see

[mortal garnet]

fe is the only 3080 at 699

everything else is like 800+

[blazing pilot]

Kk

[mortal garnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQgwF8

didnt touch the drives bc lili might crucify me for picking something bad

[blazing pilot]

Ok

[stoic island]

I will if she doesn't >:D

X300 is great

@mortal garnet why no Revolution D.F.?

20$ less than leadex iii rn

[mortal garnet]

i didnt change psu

[warm swift]

guys 1 question, would you rather have SAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB Or SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB

[ocean ether]

970 2tb

[warm swift]

why?

[ocean ether]

More storage

[warm swift]

you dont care about that speed difference?

[ocean ether]

Not really

I’m running a seagate 2tb sshd and it runs fine

I’d rather have more storage than a little more speed if that makes sense

[ashen depot]

AYOOOOO

Hello Everyone

🥰

[old hearth]

Have al my parts and 5900x on back order top of list, but I can’t get a ducking 3080

I got x570 32gb ram, 1.5 tb of ssd and 4 tb hardrive with 850 watt platinum supply

[mortal garnet]

gpus are bouta be even harder to get

[old hearth]

Ik

Why can’t nvidia get a thumb out of their ass

[mortal garnet]

i gave up on trying to get a 3080

settling with my 3070

are you hunting a specific card or any 3080

[uneven mist]

i think if you can get just a 3080 most people would be happy

im still stuck with my 1660 super

grrr

[paper jay]

When do the GPUs on the Nvidia website normally come back on stock? They’re the only ones I can find that don’t have a scalped price

[earnest olive]

shoutout to ebay 3080s at $1650

[muted patio]

They don't. Only Best Buy sells the FE cards

[earnest olive]

saw a scary post today

apparently best buy's FEs ship through a really scummy company

someone bought a 3070 FE and delivery driver really obviously stole it

then came back later pretending to be a different delivery driver (maybe realized the crime wasn't worth it?) and handed him a wet and damaged box

[muted patio]

That's a driver issue not a shipping company issue

[earnest olive]

depends

[warm swift]

@earnest olive ay sips whats up

[earnest olive]

one isolated issue is a driver issue

but the company having a long history of not caring about its drivers stealing stuff is a company issue

hey how did your builds go?

[paper jay]

And some eBay prices seem too good to be true I saw an “open box” 1070 for $210

[earnest olive]

i don't trust anything on ebay anymore personally

as a buyer or a seller

[warm swift]

honestly i didnt build it yet, because im trying to find the right store in egypt to buy them parts from, plus im thinking of ordering a Lian Li O11 Case online, and i have some problem picking things

[earnest olive]

didn't you get 2 3080s already

letting them sit in the box? O_O

[warm swift]

nah i didnt buy them yet, in egypt they are saying if you want to buy a 3080 you have to build a computer, which is annoying so

no i didnt buy them yet

[earnest olive]

that's good

helps them get to more gamers and less scalpers

[warm swift]

yeah lol

btw do you think i should get that lian li case?

the o11dynamic

[paper jay]

What store are u ordering from

[earnest olive]

it's a good case

[warm swift]

some store in egypt why?

[paper jay]

Cause I’m trying to find a GPU that isn’t scalped

[warm swift]

same

[earnest olive]

what's your idea of not scalped?

because msrp is not $700 anymore

[paper jay]

Not 3x the original price lol

[earnest olive]

i got my 3080 for msrp after monitoring stock discord for 3 months

recently got my friend a 3070 for msrp after winning newegg shuffle

[warm swift]

sips like, do i get Lian Li O11 Dynamic, or the O11Dynamic XL?

like which is better

[earnest olive]

he didn't even tip me for spending so much time looking for his 3070

gonna make him take me out for dinner or something

do you need the XL?

[warm swift]

no

[earnest olive]

then get normal one

[warm swift]

i just want a case that i will probably have for a long time without any airflow issues

[earnest olive]

neither one will

O11 was designed by a well known professional overclocker

you won't have issues in it

[warm swift]

ok but about the Normal O11 Dynamic, is there a different between the normal one and the Razer? or its the same thing just the Razer one has Razer logo and rgb?

[paper jay]

Where did u order it from afterward

[warm swift]

ooo thats really cool

[earnest olive]

yeah don't pay a tax for rgb lol

[earnest olive]

newegg

[paper jay]

Oh

[earnest olive]

got both 3080 and 3070 from newegg

they were in combos

but i didn't really mind

[wanton cliff]

I got a 3070 from Wegg, still trying to get a 3080

[warm swift]

so i guess Lian Li O11 Dynamic Black it is, but can you help me with something else?

[earnest olive]

my 3080 was bundled with an 850W PSU that i just put in a customer's build for full price

[wanton cliff]

At which point I will sell my 3070

[earnest olive]

my friend's 3070 was bundled with a decent Z490 mobo so i just had him build an intel pc instead of the 5600X he was looking at

[wanton cliff]

Was it one of those explodey Gigabyte ones?

[earnest olive]

m

750W was the explodey one no?

[warm swift]

explodey?

[wanton cliff]

Idk

I know the 750w one explodes

But isn’t that whole line just explodey?

[wanton cliff]

The caps are made cheaply and explode very easily

Fire hazard

[warm swift]

dang

wtf

[wanton cliff]

Came bundled with my 3070

Going to sell

[earnest olive]

let's be fair to the psu

the TPU review where it exploded

apparently was pushing 978 watts

when the psu is rated for 750

still bad that it exploded

but... not exactly a standard use case

[wanton cliff]

Where is OCP in that case?

Simply gone?

Nonexistent?

[earnest olive]

apparently just set too high

gigabyte overestimated what it could handle

i'm not saying it's a great psu

[wanton cliff]

Understatement

[earnest olive]

but it's not going to explode with a 1660 super lol

[paper jay]

Can u send me an invite

[wanton cliff]

I simply wouldn’t trust it anyways

[warm swift]

sips do you mind helping me with Fans/Cooler?

[rich helm]

I’ll send you one

[earnest olive]

i paired it with a 350 watt build

[wanton cliff]

Nvidia and other AIBs are cutting down on the amount of 3080s being produced

[paper jay]

Ok thanks

[wanton cliff]

I would wait for 3080Ti or get a 3070 or something, cause a 3080 is impossible to get right now @paper jay

[paper jay]

I’m not rlly aiming for a 3080 or something high end like that I don’t wanna spend too much money

[earnest olive]

@warm swift just get noctua if you don't care about rgb, if you care about rgb then the options get messy

[wanton cliff]

You could get an aftermarket fan

Theoretically speaking

[warm swift]

i do want a good looking pc tbh, so yeah im sorry but i want RGB, but idk what do you, do you have list of good fans?

[earnest olive]

hard to say because i don't know what's available in egypt lol

[wanton cliff]

If you want RGB that bad I would try and get a AIO

[earnest olive]

i bought a ton of id-cooling argb fans on a pricing error

[warm swift]

i mean, i can probably buy anything with the case

[wanton cliff]

Most high end air coolers don’t have RGB

[earnest olive]

custom loop with rgb reservoir, pump, and fittings

[wanton cliff]

^^^

[warm swift]

no no i dont want air cooling

i do want an AIO

[wanton cliff]

That’s what I’m saying

An AIO would be your best bet for RGB

[earnest olive]

anyways sara i know the gigabyte psu is not a good buy and i wouldn't have bought it on its own

but i put it with a 3600 + 2060

i'm not losing any sleep over it

i was forced to buy it might as well offload it somewhere sensible

[warm swift]

i mean do you have a list of the best fans to get?

[wanton cliff]

Just make sure you inform that customer that anything near to or higher than the rated wattage of that PSU will likely make bad things happen

[earnest olive]

if a 3600 + 2060 manages to draw 1100W i'll film myself eating my 3080

[wanton cliff]

I’m talking about upgrading lol

I would love to see that happen tho

[earnest olive]

i think you'd struggle to hit 1100W with a 10900K and 2x 3090

[wanton cliff]

Weeeeell

2x 3090

That’s cutting it a bit close

But yeah, fair point

[earnest olive]

250W CPU + 700W GPU

realistically it's probably going to throttle lower

[warm swift]

@earnest olive @wanton cliff can i ask you about ssd's?

[wanton cliff]

Uh

Sure

[warm swift]

SAMSUNG 980 PRO 1TB Or SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB

[earnest olive]

the inside of that case will be comparable to the lowest circles of hell

[wanton cliff]

Evo plus

[muted patio]

2 TB

[wanton cliff]

980 pro very not worth the money

[muted patio]

Yo uwon't notice the speed difference with the 980

[earnest olive]

gen 4 is complete nonsense in a gaming rig

[warm swift]

yeah but isnt the 2tb evo plus slower than the ps5, and im sorry if this sounded dumb lol

[earnest olive]

there's like almost zero difference in game loading between a gen 3 and a budget sata ssd

or boot times

[wanton cliff]

By less than a second in most applications

[earnest olive]

gen 4 is useful for a very small niche set of users

and gamers are not part of that niche set

[warm swift]

alright then evo plus it is, and plus i think ill really need them 2tb

[wanton cliff]

yet

[earnest olive]

that's true

but with high end boards packing multiple nvme slots now

wouldn't be hard to put your gen 3 high capacity drive in the other slot if you wanted to get a gen 4

[warm swift]

i mean i can always upgrade in the future tho right? like if i get the evo plus and some new ssd came out i can just remove the evo plus and put the new ssd in easily right?

[earnest olive]

but i don't see gen 4 becoming a necessity that soon

[muted patio]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

Not exactly

[earnest olive]

don't even have to remove it

my $150 mobo can support a gen 4 nvme and a gen 3 nvme at the same time

[wanton cliff]

You would still need to clone the drive if you want all your same stuff on the new drive, and maybe set up boot order and such

But otherwise, yeah

[earnest olive]

only one of them gets an ssd heatsink but you really do not need a heatsink on gen 3

[warm swift]

yeah i get that, but honestly i dont plan on changing that evo plus for atleast some years

[earnest olive]

you will be fine

lol

[wanton cliff]

Tell that to my SX 8100

[earnest olive]

does that drive have thermal issues?

[wanton cliff]

Very much so, yes

Was my only SSD for a year, would overheat about once a month

[earnest olive]

get a lililabs ssd

[warm swift]

what do you think about the Lian Li uni fans?

[earnest olive]

they're like

$160 for 3?

no thanks

[wanton cliff]

Anyways, that was my time in this chat for today

[stoic island]

unifans are just

ll120 but more expensive

[wanton cliff]

I’ll see y’all later or tomorrow

[earnest olive]

i have 5 great looking argb fans in my case for $15

[warm swift]

see ya

[stoic island]

do you have the id-cooling ones or the rosewill ones

[warm swift]

yeah but the lian li fans are much better than the LL120 fans right?

[earnest olive]

id-cooling xf12025

[stoic island]

excuse me?

much better?

in what way

lmao

[warm swift]

im asking

idk

i just looked at it rn

but at cooling at stuff idk

[earnest olive]

i don't even like how they look

i prefer lighting on the fan blades over lighting on the frames

[warm swift]

alright

so the Corsair LL120 fans yeah?

[earnest olive]

[stoic island]

I don't like the looks either

[earnest olive]

buying anything from corsair that's not a power supply

[stoic island]

no

[earnest olive]

yuck

[stoic island]

In general, everything from corsair is bad :P

[warm swift]

ok then whats a good fan with great rgb?

[earnest olive]

well actually

power supply or case

[stoic island]

PSUs has some exceptions

[verbal quarry]

what are some good cheap case fans then?

[earnest olive]

corsair has some good cases too

[stoic island]

Just 4000d is good imo

[earnest olive]

corsair 4000D ❤️

220T is not bad

[stoic island]

the full tower ones I'd go phanteks

and 220t is just so mediocre

[earnest olive]

like it's not the best case ever but it's not bad

4000D is amazing

[warm swift]

ok then whats a good fan that has rgb and has some good cooling stuff idk

[earnest olive]

show us what's available

we have no way of knowing what they have in stock in egypt

lol

[warm swift]

i mean, i can tell you whats available in egypt, but im asking in general because im buying the lian li o11D case online so i was thinking of getting some of them stuff like fans aswell and probably psu extensions

[worn wave]

Why the O11

[warm swift]

because its good wdym

[worn wave]

I dont understand why people like it so much

its overused and looks ugly imo

[verbal quarry]

because it has a glass front

[earnest olive]

ugly is subjective

[warm swift]

i mean, i respect your opinion but imo i like its design

[stoic island]

O11 is meh

It's not bad not great

[earnest olive]

people like what they like

[stoic island]

Cooling wise

It's good but only when you spend a semi-absurd amount on fans, therefore just meh

[earnest olive]

but anyone buying an O11 is throwing around an absurd amount of money to begin with

lol

[stoic island]

yea 150$ for a case without fans

[muted patio]

Lol

I don't wanna post my current build price

[earnest olive]

never seen an O11 with lower end than a 3080

just doesn't make sense

[verbal quarry]

please do

[stoic island]

is it 5000$

[muted patio]

Nah, some stuff in there is stupid priced right now

Like, my Dell monitor for some reason is $650

[verbal quarry]

good lord

[earnest olive]

i'm pretty happy with my setup price

my whole pc is about the same price as people are asking for my gpu on ebay

[muted patio]

It's at $4400 right now

[stoic island]

lol

[verbal quarry]

jesus

[muted patio]

Mostly due to the 3070 and Dell monitor price

[earnest olive]

$4400 with a 3070?

O_O

[verbal quarry]

mines at $1500 with a 3070

[earnest olive]

i'm at $2184 with a 3080 including all peripherals

[muted patio]

PCP lists my 3070 at $1100 right now lol

[stoic island]

it is what it is

[muted patio]

Dell 24" monitor at $650

ridiculous

[verbal quarry]

oh i just went with the fe

[earnest olive]

oh i manually set prices on builds i've already completed

[stoic island]

yea that's nice

[earnest olive]

set them to the price i bought it for

[verbal quarry]

you got the acer monitor for free?

[earnest olive]

i found it in my garage lol

it's like 14 years old

but it does its job

using it to display discord right now

[verbal quarry]

oh makes sense

[earnest olive]

my pc itself is $1625.31

[warm swift]

so can you suggest a fan?

anyone

[verbal quarry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hgYT3Z

this is my build at $1493.87

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case-fan/#s=120&l=400000&B=33,43

nice build

[verbal quarry]

thanks

[earnest olive]

i intended to upgrade my 3600x to a 5800x after getting the 3080

but after testing it my 3600x wasn't bottlenecking

so decided not to

now i have a cooler that's almost as expensive as my cpu

[verbal quarry]

nice call

[earnest olive]

lol

[small osprey]

5400 rpm

reeee

[earnest olive]

5400 rpm is common in higher capacity drives ssenti

[verbal quarry]

what hdd would you recommend?

[earnest olive]

my 6tb is 5400 rpm

[verbal quarry]

thats the same price

[earnest olive]

still gets a solid transfer rate

[small osprey]

tbh, 5400rpm isnt bad

[earnest olive]

about 210 MB/s

also, you can't beat the price i got it for

[small osprey]

hdds are for mass storage not speed lol

[earnest olive]

free

[small osprey]

what

YOU GOT A 6tb HDD FOR FREE

[verbal quarry]

lol

[earnest olive]

yeah my friend has an IT job and his boss wanted to upgrade one of their NAS setups

was only a year old

[small osprey]

oh lol

this my 1.5k build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KZDDTJ

[earnest olive]

so my friend replaced all the hard drives with 16TB

[verbal quarry]

you think he has another one?

[earnest olive]

and he was allowed to keep all of the 6tb hard drives

so he gave like 4 of them to our friend group

really nice guy

could have sold them for like $100 used

[mortal garnet]

ssenti ur partlist is like perfect lmao

[earnest olive]

no it's not

[small osprey]

perfect?

[earnest olive]

trash pc not enough rgb

😤

[small osprey]

LMAO

no rgb this time

[mortal garnet]

like every part

[earnest olive]

you don't have enough rgb to blind a unicorn

[mortal garnet]

is something we'd recommend in this server

[earnest olive]

hmm

that motherboard is a bit iffy with an i9

[hollow grail]

big cpu weak gpu

[earnest olive]

but otherwise yeah

[hollow grail]

kinda cringe

[small osprey]

it was on sale

was gonna get a 5600x

lmao

[hollow grail]

and no p31 gold

[earnest olive]

it's a good combo for 1080p

[hollow grail]

dying

[muted patio]

If you're gonna stream, let the CPU do the render

Better quality than NVENC and the horsepower to do it

[mortal garnet]

bruh 330 for that

where did you order it from lol

[small osprey]

microcenter

[verbal quarry]

makes sense

[muted patio]

Sale?

[mortal garnet]

rip

[earnest olive]

intel is the budget king nowadays

[small osprey]

yea sale + openbox

[muted patio]

Sweet

[stoic island]

is fun

[earnest olive]

i've seen 10850K around that price a few times

lol

[mortal garnet]

wish the arctic freezer had tubes that can swivel

[muted patio]

Yeah, my CLC doesn't swivel either. Only slightly annoying

[mortal garnet]

no swivel is a dealbreaker for me

[earnest olive]

huh, i thought that was standard

[muted patio]

But the tubes come straight out of my pump

[mortal garnet]

atleast for the freezer

[small osprey]

expensive

[muted patio]

Not the side

So it works just fine

[earnest olive]

every aio i've bought has tubes that can swivel

even the dirt cheap ones

[hollow grail]

$20 more

smh

[small osprey]

expensive

[mortal garnet]

if i were to get the arctic freezer, the tubes would basically bending with a 90degree angle

[earnest olive]

lili when can i buy lililabs ssd for my next build

😔

[stoic island]

I mean, is it the asetech designs that can swivel?

[small osprey]

well not counting the no rgb aspect, is my build good lol

[muted patio]

No, mines an Asetek lol

[earnest olive]

i was joking btw

[muted patio]

but it's a weird one

[earnest olive]

it's a good build

[stoic island]

huh

fun

[muted patio]

Gen 5 I think? One of the few

Gen 5 kinda skipped IIRC, most went straight to Gen 6

[stoic island]

I mean, asetech doesn't do much between generations lol

had a monopoly basically

[muted patio]

They did for 5 and 6

Changed the pump rotor

Tubes come straight out the front

[small osprey]

yea ik lol

[stoic island]

oh yea doesn't the clc have a tiny plastic impeller, and gen 6 uses an actually decent impeller

[verbal quarry]

how good are the evga aio?

[earnest olive]

this bugs me more than it should

[muted patio]

I can't remember

CLC got good marks from GN

[small osprey]

which one then lol

[hollow grail]

never

[muted patio]

and I got it on sale

[hollow grail]

u can buy lililabs vps tho

[stoic island]

I'll look it up again later, but it was this lil thing irc

[earnest olive]

i would have spent a little bit more on better vrms but if you're not trying to oc it to the limit it doesn't matter

[hollow grail]

make urself a website

and host it on lililabs infrastructure

99.99 SLA uptime

[mortal garnet]

from reviews i watched, i think ek's aio slightly performs worse than the arctic freezer

prob what ima go wth

[earnest olive]

can i host minecraft server on lililabs

[small osprey]

is the msi gaming carbon good

[earnest olive]

z490 aorus elite is the best bang for the buck z490 in terms of vrms i think

[muted patio]

yeah, it's a Gen 5 pump

Plastic impeller instead of metal

[earnest olive]

why gn no review my aio

😔

[muted patio]

"With an Asetek Gen5 pump, we’re staying on the plastic three-pronged impeller rather than the newer metal impellers, but performance is overall unchanged between Gen5 and Gen6 – the differences are mostly in focus on reduction of permeation in the tubes."

[mortal garnet]

any recommendations for z490 itx

[muted patio]

I did change the fans on it tho, EVGA fans are stupid loud

[mortal garnet]

what did you swap to ?

p12s?

[muted patio]

Silent Wings pressure optimized

[earnest olive]

Z490I UNIFY

[stoic island]

UNIFY IS GREAT

[hollow grail]

yes

we do game hosting now

[earnest olive]

what a cute little mobo lol

[hollow grail]

ryzen instances

[earnest olive]

it looks so small

[stoic island]

it's so cute

[small osprey]

this one

[stoic island]

and op for oc

[mortal garnet]

so pricey

[earnest olive]

only problem is the $300 price tag

but

[fast dust]

No sips

[earnest olive]

ITX has always been a price premium

[hollow grail]

lmk how many cores and ram u want

[fast dust]

Host a Minecraft server with my i5-2400 and 8gb ram system

[earnest olive]

@small osprey ye or the non AC version

i'm not actually looking to host a minecraft server

[fast dust]

Awe

[earnest olive]

i stopped playing that after 9th grade

[hollow grail]

[fast dust]

No fun

[hollow grail]

u can host whatever on lililabs ™️

[earnest olive]

can i host a website dedicated to promoting the fattydove racing ssd as the best ssd to ever exist

😳

[small osprey]

nah i need wifi

[earnest olive]

i mean

[small osprey]

no ethernet

[earnest olive]

if you already built the pc there's no reason to swap out the board

[small osprey]

no some parts didnt come yet lol

[earnest olive]

your board is ok there's just better for similar price point imo

oh

[fast dust]

Same smh

[earnest olive]

you don't have board yet?

[small osprey]

no

[earnest olive]

then yeah id cancel that board and get the aorus elite ac

[small osprey]

mk

[hollow grail]

wow im vibing hard rn

[fast dust]

Vibe harder

[hollow grail]

[earnest olive]

you can have a sips stamp of approval now

[small osprey]

lotta stuff outta stock lol

[earnest olive]

oh wait

[hollow grail]

im helping a sub set up a fabric server rn actually

epic minecraft time

[earnest olive]

the Z490 AORUS ELITE AC is like $55 more than non AC

[small osprey]

ok maybe time for wifi card

[earnest olive]

and it's only wifi 5

[small osprey]

yea lol

[fast dust]

At that point

[earnest olive]

yeah i would just get a wifi adapter at that point

[fast dust]

Power line adapter

[stoic island]

ax200 cards op

it's like 30$ for an ax200 pcie card

[muted patio]

Whatever wifi card is in my TUF it's OP

[small osprey]

this one good https://www.amazon.com/WiFi-AX200-PCs-802-11AX-Bluetooth-NGW/dp/B082T4P19W?th=1

[fast dust]

Purple

[earnest olive]

why does it have to be purple

LOL

[fast dust]

SSenti you doing a mini ITX PC?

[earnest olive]

would be a perfect product if it was black..

[warm swift]

ay can someone help me with picking a motherboard? which is best ASUS B550-E or ASUS B550-F?

[fast dust]

I believe B550-E just has a few more features than B550-F

Like another ARGB header

Idk I’m probably wrong tho

[verbal quarry]

i have the b550-f its a nice board

but i havent looked at the b550-E

[stoic island]

Lmao

Purple pcb

That's a new one

[verbal quarry]

ive seen a pink one

[stoic island]

Example slightly less sus one
https://www.newegg.com/fenvi-fv-ax200-pci-express/p/0XM-00JK-00060

Purple is just so

Yea

[verbal quarry]

lol

[muted patio]

I mean, hopefully you have an AX router or access point lol

[stoic island]

It's backwards compatible afaik

[fast dust]

Imagine having AX

AC gang

[tame sable]

Hi

[stoic island]

That antenna is kinda crazy tho

[tame sable]

I need help

[stoic island]

Hi

What is the need

[fast dust]

Help about what?

[tame sable]

picking parts

[fast dust]

👀

[stoic island]

What budget, what country, when building

[earnest olive]

i gotta step out and do some work

[tame sable]

ive already got a case

[stoic island]

Bai bleach

[fast dust]

Bye

[small osprey]

na

[earnest olive]

have fun

[tame sable]

my case is an ATX whatever that means

[fast dust]

What case do you have, do you know?

[stoic island]

Still need answers to this btw

[small osprey]

4000d

[fast dust]

Was talking to the other guy but nice lol

[tame sable]

fractal design Focus G blue

[fast dust]

Oh sick

[tame sable]

?

oh

[fast dust]

*sick

Lmao

[stoic island]

Lol

[fast dust]

Can you answer those questions Mr1111 asked

[tame sable]

im in uk and my budget is £1500

[mortal garnet]

you have a pic of the build?

[fast dust]

Any specific requirements you have?

[stoic island]

What workloads

[hollow grail]

tfw someone said they wanted to host a vpn on digitalocean

[tame sable]

uhhh blender]

[small osprey]

not everything here yet lol

[stoic island]

Anything else?

[tame sable]

Minecraft

[mortal garnet]

o rip

[tame sable]

Kdenlive

that kinda stuff

[mortal garnet]

what are you waiting on ? @small osprey

[tame sable]

im new to building stuf

[muted patio]

Wait, didn't we already build you one?

Those specs seem familiar

[stoic island]

Fun times

[tame sable]

ive incrased the budget

[stoic island]

I'll go make a list

1500gbp including or not including the focus g?

[tame sable]

excluding

[hollow grail]

ugh i want a gpu with like

pink pcb

[warm swift]

ay can i ask a question without you guys hating on my lol

[mortal garnet]

isnt there some chinese brand that does gamer girl parts

[hollow grail]

yeston

[hollow grail]

no

but go ahead

[warm swift]

would i be a terrible human being if i get a deepcool castle 360 v2 and replace the fans with ll120's?

[small osprey]

like everything but the cpu/case

[fast dust]

iGame

They actually make some sick looking cards

[hollow grail]

nah it was yeston

i mean both do it

[fast dust]

Yes does too

[hollow grail]

but yeston made the waifu cards

[fast dust]

*yeston

[hollow grail]

and the cute pet

[fast dust]

iGame makes some Waifu cards too

[muted patio]

No

[hollow grail]

yeston walked so igame could run

[small osprey]

this one look good, but needs a usb 2 header for some reason?? https://www.amazon.com/Network-PCIE-Wifi-6-Card/dp/B089FCX3C3/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=pcie+wifi+card&qid=1613145033&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyNkFHT1UwQjU3UTRZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTk4NDg3MTEzTEZSWjY3MUZQNSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwODMxMDYzMjROTjIyNVlSRk9HQSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

jeez big link

[muted patio]

For bluetooth

Often times the Bluetooth on the card goes through a USB header

[tame sable]

has anyone got a pc yet?

[muted patio]

patience

[mortal garnet]

if i remember correctly, edup is a nice budget brand for pcie wifi adapters

[hollow grail]

yea

[fast dust]

I have no name WiFi adapter

I need a new one fr

[hollow grail]

it literally doesnt matter who makes the pcb

99% of them rebrand from same factory

all that matters is ax200

[muted patio]

Yep

[stoic island]

@tame sable whew this took a while, not used to editing lists on mobile without good wifi
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R8YHLP

[verbal quarry]

jesus almost had the entire build on amazon

[stoic island]

That's assuming you get 3080 at msrp

If not, some corners can be cut

[muted patio]

You sure about that Gammax for the 10700k? It'll do 150W under load.

[warm swift]

does the 3 pack ll120 fans come with lighting node?

[muted patio]

Dang, UK has good pricing on the X300

[stoic island]

Hm

[muted patio]

On my list it's like $250

[stoic island]

I have trust in gammaxx 400 but eh

[muted patio]

Yeah

180W TDP max rating

Technically under the limimt

[fast dust]

I got my X300 for around $100

[muted patio]

SO did I but right now price is high for some reason

[fast dust]

Says $104 on pcpp

[muted patio]

really

OHHH

Mine is 6TB

that's why

[fast dust]

That’d make sense

[mild axle]

Hi

[tame sable]

Yo

[stoic island]

@muted patio welp, no other good coolers that'll be at a reasonable price until mugen 5, which puts us over budget

[fast dust]

I like ya specs

[tame sable]

old stuff i know

[mild axle]

Is it

[stoic island]

But gammaxx 400 should do fine stock

[mild axle]

Yes it is

[stoic island]

Although editing might get it a bit toasty

[tame sable]

ok

can you show it me?

[stoic island]

This was the list
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/R8YHLP

Mugen 5 here would be 20$ more
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

[mild axle]

couldnt you maybe squeeze an i9 if you tried

[tame sable]

whats the difference?

[stoic island]

I mean, the main thing is blender afaik, so that 3080 is gonna stay

I don't think you can fit a 10850k in the budget

[mild axle]

lemme se what i can do

[tame sable]

ok

[mild axle]

whatare you using it for

[stoic island]

I personally wouldn't cut back on anything in the list atm

Blender, minecraft, and editing iirc

[mild axle]

ah ok

[tame sable]

RTX Minecraft

[stoic island]

The 4tb drive is in there because blender+editing might mean a lot of files to store

[mild axle]

i know him

he uses my NAS

[tame sable]

oh ye

[stoic island]

Oh then you can get away with no hdd and 10850k probably then

[mild axle]

although he may need a little storage as the nas is quite slow

[stoic island]

Eh

[small osprey]

what about ax3000

[stoic island]

500gb ssd should be fine for temp storage, and just offload to nas

@small osprey ax200 is the name of a chip

[mild axle]

ye maybe daily

ok ill see what i can do

[stoic island]

Ax3000 is marketing for an 802.11ax card that does 3000mb/s

Intel ax200 is a great 802.11 m.2 card

[fast dust]

Did you say M.2 card

[stoic island]

@fast dust a lot of pcie cards have m.2 cards

And therefore there are ax200 pcie cards

[fast dust]

Could I

[small osprey]

m.2?

[fast dust]

Could I use it on my B450 steel legend

[stoic island]

Probably

[fast dust]

Or does it need the funky M.2

[warm swift]

guys, is the Bitfenix Whisper M 850 W PSU a good PSU?

[fast dust]

Can u link 👀

[stoic island]

Look at the rosewill card for example, m.2 card on the PCIe card

This thing
https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rnx-ac3000-pci-express/p/N82E16833166144

@warm swift whisper m pretty good

[fast dust]

Omg that Rosewill card might work for me too

[earnest olive]

just be mindful that it might not be the same key as SSDs

[stoic island]

Ya

[warm swift]

thank you

[stoic island]

Because it's on a PCIe card it'll likely work for yams

[fast dust]

Yeah that’s why I’m wondering if I could use it on my steel legend. Idk what shot it has

[mild axle]

the reason he picked the focus G is because it has optical drive bays

i think

[fast dust]

I have my GPU vertical mounted, so if I get PCIe WiFi card it’s gotta be short

[stoic island]

Focus g does have 5.25in bays

[small osprey]

oh that's what you meant by m.2

[mild axle]

he has a lot of CD's from when he was younger

[earnest olive]

i wanted to vertical mount my gpu

but from what i've read there are still a lot of problems with gen 4 gpus and vertical mounting

so decided against

[small osprey]

imo

vert mount is completely useless

[fast dust]

It is

[earnest olive]

i mean it's for looks

lol

[fast dust]

Just for looks

[small osprey]

worsens temps, and doesnt look all that good either tbh

[earnest olive]

subjective

[mild axle]

somehow its cheaper to use newegg part picker that pcpartpicker

idk how

[stoic island]

Not always worse temps

[fast dust]

Do you think I could get an M.2 M to M.2 E adapter?

[stoic island]

@mild axle because you can choose out of stock things and show msrp

[small osprey]

that's bc pcpp might pick overpriced parts

[earnest olive]

also doesn't make temps worse unless you're using a built in vertical mount that shoves it into the glass

[small osprey]

well still does make it worse

bc instead of drawing air through bottom of case you're drawing it from the glass wall

[earnest olive]

either way my 3080 runs pretty cold after the mod

[stoic island]

Afaik it can be even better sometimes

[earnest olive]

it's barely audible while mining right now

[stoic island]

Using vert mount with brackets that allow for a lot of space

[earnest olive]

yeah it depends on what kind of airflow setup you have

[muted patio]

nah. Just set the slot to GEN 3 in the BIOS

Works perfectly fine

[earnest olive]

yeah but people have said stuff like

every time you update bios you need to take it out and mount normally to get into the bios to set it to gen 3

[fast dust]

do you think something like this will work

[muted patio]

I haven't had that issue

But maybe some folks do

[earnest olive]

vertical mounting also means i lose my table for my figure and charms

[small osprey]

oh you got the thermal pads?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[warm swift]

can i send me pc list and you guys tell me if its alright or not

[earnest olive]

i dunno if i want to post about it on pcpartpicker

sure

[warm swift]

CPU: AMD RYZEN 9 5900X
CPU COOLER: DEEPCOOL CASTLE 360 RGB
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS ROG STRIX B550-E
RAM: idk yet but it will be a 32GB and im just trying to find a good one in Egypt
STORAGE: SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 2TB
CASE: LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC
POWERSUPPLY: BITFENIX WHISPER M 850W PSU
FANS: 3x CORSAIR LL120 3 PACK FANS
GPU: it will be a 3080, but dont know which one yet, and might wait for 3080 TI if there is one atleast

Might get also some PSU extensions

[small osprey]

ooh what're your vram temps now

[earnest olive]

looks fine

[warm swift]

its an expensive one thats for sure but its alright

[small osprey]

never heard of that psu

[earnest olive]

was 68C with the same fan speed, running 90C now with much quieter fans

[small osprey]

ooh nice

[muted patio]

new rumors are the TI is only going to have 12GB VRAM, just FYI

[small osprey]

dropped from 100-110 to 60-70

pog

[warm swift]

wasnt it 20?

[earnest olive]

nah it was just pinned to 110 all the time

[warm swift]

or idk

[muted patio]

Was

[earnest olive]

i wish it was 100-110

[muted patio]

new leaks are 12 GB

[small osprey]

those temps would be scary to me lmao

[muted patio]

So who knows

[small osprey]

but i mean vram so its fine

[earnest olive]

yeah that's why i modded it

[warm swift]

so a 3080 and a 3080 ti might not make a difference huh, i guess ill just wait to the announcement just to make sure

[idle compass]

do u guys think this is a legit listing

[muted patio]

It may have more cores

[small osprey]

no

[muted patio]

and better speed

[earnest olive]

did you click the listing? facebook sets a $500 maximum to allow shipping

[warm swift]

bruh what, 3090 for 500? thats definitely not legit

[idle compass]

i mean its in person pick up

[muted patio]

No. If that's FB marketplace

[earnest olive]

so they probably posted 500 but have a real price in the description

[muted patio]

They just doing that to get around the $500 shipping limit

[earnest olive]

common practice

[idle compass]

its pick up only

[earnest olive]

yeah scam then

[muted patio]

Yep

[idle compass]

yeah thats what i thought

[small osprey]

obvi not real

[warm swift]

i do hope so, plus im assuming that there will be enough of them available because alot of ppl bought the 3080, so idk why they would want to upgrade again

[small osprey]

who would do that

unless that's mr beast or smt

but he would give them away for free lmao

[muted patio]

Well, people can't get the cards in stock right now

I wouldn't imagine that launch would be any better

Still, it's just a pipe dream at this point

SO you might be waiting quite a few months

[warm swift]

yeah...

[uncut pelican]

Sup

[warm swift]

that is true, ill probably build the pc and stay with the 1080ti and then if the rtx 3080ti does happen ill get it replace the 1080ti with the 3080ti, but if not then ill just get the 3080 i guess

[muted patio]

I mean, just get the 3080

[warm swift]

why?

[muted patio]

Because is it worth paying the premium for likely only ~10% more improvement?

[small osprey]

get the 3080, then if you want to upgrade, sell it

[muted patio]

You could be enjoying it now

[small osprey]

yea, and if you absolutly have to upgrade to that ti, then you get your money back and then some first

[muted patio]

EVGA also has a 90 day step up program

So if it comes out within that time, trade in and upgrade

Just pay the difference in MSRP

[warm swift]

yeah i guess i can do that

[muted patio]

Or wait if you want. I just don't see why you wouldn't really enjoy a 3080 instead of waiting for a TI version.

[small osprey]

buy 3080, enjoy, wait till 3080ti launch, scalp your 3080, buy 3080ti, profit

[warm swift]

that is a good idea, i guess i can do that

thing is idk what to choose from those

ASUS RTX 3080 ROG STRIX
ASUS RTX 3080 TUF
EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3
GIGABYTE AORUS RTX 3080 MASTER
GIGABYTE AORUS RTX 3080 XTREME
MSI RTX 3080 GAMING X TRIO
MSI RTX 3080 SUPRIM X

like can someone rank them?

from least to best?

[earnest olive]

1. whatever you can buy
2. whatever you can't buy

[muted patio]

IMO, EVGA for the warranty and trade up program

Plus EVGA has fantastic resale value

When the market isn't brutal lol

[warm swift]

yeah but if we were talking like, performance wise and stuff which one is the most powerful and stuff

[warm swift]

yeah but i can probably find like all of them or something idk

[muted patio]

EVGA also

Top Tier

[earnest olive]

bold statement

[muted patio]

but honestly

All of them are fantastic

[warm swift]

yeah all of them are pretty great

[muted patio]

I've heard Gigabyte customer service is a PITA but no personal experience

[warm swift]

yeah well honestly id be happy with any card aslong as its a 3080 so yeah

question i see like alot of different brands of PSU Extension cables, but are they actually different? like other than looks and brand

[small osprey]

i would rank it

1. evga
2. fe
3. strix
4. tuf
   the rest are all similar, aorus > msi tho

[warm swift]

alright, but even aorus over the msi suprim x?

[small osprey]

personally, idk much about those lol

but aorus is really good

[warm swift]

yeah aorus is pretty good

yeah id be happy with any 3080 from that list tbh

[mild axle]

im back

[tame sable]

ok

[mild axle]

ill make you something on newegg

[tame sable]

Ahhh ok

[verbal quarry]

what's their trade up program?

[muted patio]

If a new GPU releases within 90 days that you want, say 3080TI, you return the 3080 you got and pay the MSRP difference and get a new GPU

[verbal quarry]

oh wow

[muted patio]

Yes, it's their Step Up program

https://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

▶️ 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

[verbal quarry]

@little osprey hey man no selling on this server

[little osprey]

I was joking

[muted patio]

uh huh

[little osprey]

Didn't plan on it

[muted patio]

That's why you keep reposting

[little osprey]

I saw that it got deleted and didn't know why

[muted patio]

You missed my post?

[little osprey]

Just wanted to make a funny

[small osprey]

maybe go read the rules

[muted patio]

▶️ 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

[small osprey]

#rules

[little osprey]

Yea wasn't paying any attention

[warm swift]

alright, thank you so much @muted patio

[tame sable]

hai

[muted patio]

YW

[tame sable]

is universe working on the pc

i asked for

[mild axle]

Yes

[muted patio]

uh, you missed the reply?

It was a while ago

Mr1111 built you one

scroll up

[mild axle]

ye

i know

i'm making him one

on the newegg parts list to see if he can gat one cheaper

or with better specs

[muted patio]

Like, there's a really good build right here

@tame sable

[jaunty willow]

Hey what's good guys

[muted patio]

That someone did for you

[warm swift]

btw question, in the pc im building ill be getting an EVO PLUS 2TB and in my old pc i have a 2TB HDD, so if i download all my games and windows on the evo plus and use that 2tb HDD for putting videos/picture etc. ik 2tb is overkill for videos and pictures but i dont want to throw it away, so you think that would be a good idea? to take my 2tb hdd and also put it in the new pc build?

[mild axle]

can do

[small osprey]

yes

thats a good idea

dont just throw the old one out

[muted patio]

yes, put it in the new build

use it for mass storage like pics and videos

Save SSD for games and OS

[small osprey]

but when you're installing windows unplug the hdd first

so you dont accidentally wipe your hdd

[warm swift]

alright thank you so much vintange and ssenti

[warm swift]

wipe as in like removing everything?

[tame sable]

ye i know

[small osprey]

yea

if you accidentally install windows on your hdd it'll remove everything else

[mild axle]

put it in after installing wiindows

[small osprey]

and its kinda hard to tell which drive is which bc they're both 2 tb, so you should unplug the power of your hdd when installing

[warm swift]

alright ill keep that in mind, thanks again

[small osprey]

no problem

good luck

[mild axle]

yo @tame sable can you go a little over budget?

[tame sable]

@mild axle A little

[mild axle]

How much?

[tame sable]

uhhh

[mild axle]

Ok ill give 2 options

2 pc options

[tame sable]

Ok ive decided i can go £50 Over Budget

[mild axle]

ok

how about

https://newegg.io/439d735

[tame sable]

good

ok thx

[paper jay]

Is the 1060 better than the 1660

[mild axle]

nah

[paper jay]

Ok

[uncut pelican]

Did you just use newegg part picker

[muted patio]

I can't even get that link to work

[uncut pelican]

Me either

[mild axle]

i did use newegg part picker

[muted patio]

in any of my three browsers

[uncut pelican]

Just use pcpp

[mild axle]

it sows out of stock stuff

[uncut pelican]

Thats good

You will have more of a selection

[mild axle]

it also shows components at msrpp

[uncut pelican]

Pcpp will show every part you see at newegg and more

[mild axle]

and when in stock you can buy at msrp i believe

[uncut pelican]

Pcpp is just better

[mild axle]

i suppose

[uncut pelican]

Newegg works but only for newegg part

If yk what im saying

[mild axle]

i do

[uncut pelican]

I gotta go back to school now

[mild axle]

ima now do some blender

on my fx

and 1050 TI

[wanton cliff]

That sounds painful

[mild axle]

TBH its not to bad

im also on my dads pc with a worse CPU

im not sure about GPU

[uncut pelican]

get yoself a pentium 4

[wanton cliff]

You can check in Task Manager

[uncut pelican]

then you will know what slow means

[mild axle]

i know what slow is

[wanton cliff]

My dad, still using an Athlon II on Windows 10

[uncut pelican]

LOL nice

[mild axle]

yay

[wanton cliff]

I built him a PC with a 3600x and 1660 super, and offered to clone his old 500gb 5400rpm hard drive myself, but he refuses for some reason

[mild axle]

well

my parents honestly won't let me buy a pc because my FX Machine is still 'MID RANGE'

[wanton cliff]

[mild axle]

like its my money

[wanton cliff]

It’s considered so low range that no one even sells parts for FX anymore

[mild axle]

ikr

[wanton cliff]

What is it, Piledriver?

Bulldozer?

[mild axle]

Vishera architecture