#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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Gaming

potent portal
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Your board lists up to 4400 RAM in its QVL

little osprey
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Some recording/streaming

sharp blade
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It's ryzen.

muted patio
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3700x is ideal with 3600 mhz

sharp blade
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So better speed would be better

muted patio
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Think of the ram in terms of bandwidth instead of speed

potent portal
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Yeah but if you want future proof as he said...

muted patio
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it should be 3600 MT/s

little osprey
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Meh, got 64GB for a steal.

muted patio
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Ah, so you've already bought

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And are looking for approval

little osprey
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Yeah, I have everything in that list

sharp blade
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eh

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okay xD

little osprey
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I'm trying to change that samsung 4k to 2 more of the LGs

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And swapping the 3 rgb fans from the aio to corsair argb fans

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That's really all I'm planning as far as future upgrades

potent portal
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It might be worth it to sell those sticks and get faster 32GB memory

little osprey
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I got all that ram for $240

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Including taxes

sharp blade
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And with same speed and latency?

little osprey
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Yep

sharp blade
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thats like 50%

potent portal
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Sure, but you're sacrificing performance

little osprey
little osprey
sharp blade
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like 50% of the price

little osprey
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The price listed is the price as of rn

sharp blade
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yeah i know

little osprey
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When I bought them they were cheaper

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MUCH cheaper

potent portal
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▶ Play video
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3200 vs 3600 IS noticeable

little osprey
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Tbh I should've stayed with the 5 3600 and put the money from my 7 3700x into a gpu

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Or the ram

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But I upgraded ram before the CPU

potent portal
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Memory speed determines how fast the infinity fabric goes, which directly affects multicore performance

little osprey
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I really only upgraded ram/cpu because of zoom

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I have two windows for zoom, and like dozen of web pages open for my college class

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It was lagging bad before that

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Also, @muted patio the gpu temp issue is gone

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System still crashes, but not as often

pliant lake
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5900x, its better all around

cursive wharf
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otherwise, AMD wins

sharp blade
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okay

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ty

jagged bane
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thank you!

fossil halo
little osprey
desert gulch
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@little osprey plz dont buy windows for 140

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ebay keys for a few bucks

little osprey
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I’m not going to just haven’t removed it

desert gulch
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ok good

little osprey
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Keeps away the “compatibility issue” flags

desert gulch
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you can set price manually to a few bucks if you want

little osprey
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So sata ports are for the hard drives right?

desert gulch
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or ssd's

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that arent m.2

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so yes

junior mural
desert gulch
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yea they are

little osprey
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Ok so if I do two m.2 ssd two sata ports are disabled which shouldn’t affect me correct?

desert gulch
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shouldnt

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there are many many sata ports on most boards

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are you gonna get a 2.5 inch ssd or hdd?

mental steeple
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sadge

desert gulch
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ik

little osprey
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Plus*

desert gulch
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but they can always get a secondary

mental steeple
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could've gotten an sk hynix p31 gold

little osprey
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Is it faster than 3,500 read and 3,300 write?

desert gulch
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advertises 3500 r 3200 w

little osprey
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So not really much of a difference then

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Is there an affordable gen 4 pcie compatible mother board?

muted patio
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Not for Intel, yet

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CPU's don't support it

little osprey
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Yep sticking with 3 then

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Think there is a better mobo for the build or is it pretty set

mental steeple
muted patio
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Sequentials are EZPZ

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It's the randoms

mental steeple
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One of the least important SSD metrics.

muted patio
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real world stuff

mental steeple
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Random, mixed IO performance is what matters.

potent portal
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Yep Random 4K IOPS

little osprey
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Ohhhh what’s the random on the Samsung

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My first pc sorry for being a nuisance guys lol

still bay
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@muted patio 6tb hdd came today; works perfectly!

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formatted and everything, got a few games on it already

muted patio
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nice!!!

still bay
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thank u and sara (she changed her discord name i cant ping her) very much

muted patio
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They're kinda speedy too for a platter drive

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I'll let sara know

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She's on vacation

still bay
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ah yeah im actually abotu to head out to go skiing and i see an amazon package

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amazon said saturday but guess they decided thursday

muted patio
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HAHAH!

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Nice

still bay
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currently queuing up like 50 games to download lol

muted patio
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OOOOF

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RIP internet bandwidth

still bay
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i was a bit concerned too bc i had a windows update when i rebooted my system after plugging everything in and i thought i might've been in a boot cycle for a minute there

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lol

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i dont really know how that works tho bc im off an extender?

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im guessing its just regular

uncut pelican
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I waited like 40 mins for forza to fully download

severe axle
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its been in beta for like 2 years

fossil halo
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bro that whole game queue is more storage than my ssd has

muted patio
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Mmmm

still roostBOT
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FireTitan#2298 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

muted patio
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Only issue I see is the power supply

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We can do better than the GD for the same money

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Huh, that was a delayed bot response if I've ever seen one

potent portal
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Not bad at all IMO, besides that PSU like vintage said. You've got the limitations of the CPU in mind, so no unnecessary spending on stuff you won't use features of.

muted patio
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Like a 650W Segotep would be fine and better quality than the EVGA

little osprey
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Ok thanks

muted patio
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Lmemme grab a link

little osprey
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also didn't know that was a duplicated text don't know how

muted patio
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Don't worry

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Bot gets weird sometimes 🙂

potent portal
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Bots get a little sensitive sometimes

muted patio
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Otherwise it looked good

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Full send

buoyant birch
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Any suggestions for a laptop? Budget is around 2500 USD and its for university cs and some gaming hopefully. Looking for something that doesn't scream gaming

lean berry
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Alright so I’m getting into streaming/recording for YouTube and twitch. I need to upgrade my cpu and I’m stuck on switching over to AMD or staying with Intel. I currently have an i5 7600k. I want a cpu that’s somewhat current so I won’t have to upgrade for awhile, but also not breaking the bank. Budget is around 600-700 hundred. That’s including mobo and cooler

muted patio
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Ah crap, they went gaming lol

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They don't SCREAM gamer though but they are really nice machines

buoyant birch
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I was kind of thinking of getting a rog flow x13

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with a 2070

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this

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or should I just bring my pc and get a macbook?

fossil halo
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when the class average for ur math test is a 75

potent portal
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If it's a statistics class you could get extra credit if you make a good argument for weighted results lol

mild axle
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Hi

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i need help deciding on CPU.

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Yo @muted patio i need help on deciding between 2 cpus

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core i7 10700k Or i9 10900f

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Hello?

quick wind
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hi

mild axle
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hi

quick wind
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what are u using the pc for

mild axle
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blender, Kdenlive minecraft

fossil halo
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my g

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thats kinda obvi ngl

quick wind
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i like it

fossil halo
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10900f

mild axle
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ye

quick wind
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yeah its just better for big workloads

fossil halo
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its just better lmao

quick wind
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in general

fossil halo
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not unlocked but that doesnt matter quite as much

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assuming its a i9

quick wind
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yea

mild axle
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it just means ill have to get a worse GPu

balmy patio
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you don't have to

fossil halo
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why

mild axle
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Also I fit water cpu cooler in the budget

fossil halo
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oh bc its more expensive?

rich helm
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Just get a noctua

mild axle
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Ye ok

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Honestly I’ve never actually had water cooling

rich helm
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Me neither I’m building myself one with an AIO but only because I had the budget and I think it looks better aesthetically

mild axle
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Ye same

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I forgot they were called AIOs ):

rich helm
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I wish I could do a custom loops just because they look pretty good

mild axle
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Ye

rich helm
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But those are really expensive

mild axle
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The system I have currently made has 32 gb of ram

little osprey
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aio mostly does better job and its more clean and fits everywhere

mild axle
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It is subject to change

little osprey
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no ram clearance problem

mild axle
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Is there?

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I didn’t know there was a no ram clearance problem

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Lol

little osprey
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some coolers having problem with tall rams lol

potent portal
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With an AIO the pump isn't nearly as large as a huge noctua or something

mild axle
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Ye

fossil halo
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custom loops are pain

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not like i know

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just im tryna imagine

potent portal
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And a lot of maintenance

rich helm
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But they look epic

mild axle
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Honestly the hardest part was finding a case with optical drive bays

fossil halo
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ur filling up your 5950x dual 3090 loop

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AND IT LEAKS LMFAOOOO

potent portal
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Usually gotta go full tower to get 5.25 bays these days

mild axle
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I find one on a mid

little osprey
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lol

mild axle
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And the case itself has really nice asthetics

fossil halo
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which case

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i must admit

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I am a O11 fan

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i bet every pc builder is an O11 fan deep down even if they dont wanna say it

potent portal
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Small trick I've used to test for leaks in custom loops, before you fill it put a very small amount of air pressure into the loop with it sealed and see if you hear hissing

mild axle
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What’s 011

fossil halo
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its like the only good looking case with good thermals

fossil halo
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its a case

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best looking case on the market no cap

mild axle
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I’ll see

rich helm
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I’d get an O11 if it fit on my desk

fossil halo
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i want a O11d mini build

mild axle
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Can you put a link/ pic ok

fossil halo
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but it was too expensive

potent portal
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I like my meshify C but no 5.25

fossil halo
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aight

mild axle
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Oooh

fossil halo
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best case

mild axle
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That’s nice

fossil halo
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ever

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no cap

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i would kill for the o11d mini

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such a good case omg

mild axle
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Ok challenge, who can put the worst looking case here wins

potent portal
mild axle
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I kinda like it

small osprey
potent portal
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Oh wait I got a better one

little osprey
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good old dayz xd

mild axle
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Ssenti I honestly like it

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For the drive bays

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And it’s unusualness

small osprey
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really lmao

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looks so bad to me

fossil halo
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nono

potent portal
fossil halo
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i have a better garbage looking case

mild axle
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Lol

small osprey
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cow case

mild axle
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I have a farm

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Not to bad

small osprey
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cool

potent portal
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Awkward location for the plug

fossil halo
small osprey
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LOL

fossil halo
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like these "gaming cases"

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look so ass

mild axle
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Charging up the milk

small osprey
fossil halo
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nah

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not cool

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looks so stupid

mild axle
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Lemme de

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One

potent portal
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Airflow? Who needs that?

mild axle
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Shove a pc in a brick 🙂

potent portal
mild axle
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Kinda cool

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For the effort put in

potent portal
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And it's in a brick... err, bricks

mild axle
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Imagine having a house built with a pc in the wall

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With triple 3090s

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And dual thread ripper pros

potent portal
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Lighting the house on fire are we?

mild axle
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Well watercool it with rain

muted patio
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I've been tempted to fish tank a PC TBH

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I have some older stuff I could put in there

potent portal
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Those are fun looking

mild axle
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I saw a kid on Instagram who put us 4,000$ pc in a bath because a fake mrbeast told him to

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It had a 2080 ti and i9 9900k

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He was spoilt

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@ me if any replies occur

desert gulch
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lmao

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do you know the post?

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or his profile?

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lmao

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imagine

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his mom seems to be encouraging alot

potent portal
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She knew exactly what was going to happen

muted patio
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Uh

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Title

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bad word

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pls

potent portal
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"Let me just take one last look at it"

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Ah but that's the actual reddit link XD

muted patio
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I know

potent portal
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How does Discord handle address shorteners like bitly? Does it fully resolve to the destination or just say "bit.ly"

desert gulch
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technically that pc would still work after just water right?

muted patio
desert gulch
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if you let it dry out before trying to turn it on

fossil halo
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can someone dm me the link lmfao

potent portal
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No water will probably degrade the silicon until it's unusable. And if there's ANY water in it at all when you plug it back in it will short.

fossil halo
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i missed it

rich helm
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Same i would also like the link

half pagoda
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I have an I9-10850k with a RTX 2080.

small osprey
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pretty pog

half pagoda
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#pog

fossil halo
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that kid was so oblivious

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it was so funny

small osprey
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that kid was a fricking idiot

potent portal
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He's pretty much "Oh this will totally work"
And his mom knows it's not going to

desert gulch
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mr beast even said he wouldnt get the kid a pc after the kid did it

small osprey
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i could tell from the fact that he picked that case with a $1.2k budget

desert gulch
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so that ppl wouldnt destroy stuff and expect him to buy them stuff

half pagoda
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Can you guys check my setup out? Its in build pics.

potent portal
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Gotta learn some lessons the hard way, in this case it was DON'T TRUST THE INTERNET

desert gulch
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yup

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unless its mrbeast6000

potent portal
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Just like when people were spreading around that fake "put your phone in a microwave to charge fast" thing

desert gulch
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lmao

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you actually have to be dumb to think that

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otherwise apple and ppl would tell you to do it

potent portal
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And yet people were starting fires

desert gulch
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yup

small osprey
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what did the internet even say to make that kid put his pc in water

small osprey
desert gulch
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@small osprey a fake mrbeast said to pour water on pc and he would buy him a 5k pc

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and his pc was 1.2k

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so he believed "mrbeast"

small osprey
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what

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that guy is just dumb

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if it was mrbeast in real life sure

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but i wouldnt trust ANYONE execpt my close friends online

desert gulch
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well mrbeast does go on twitch sometimes

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yeah

severe axle
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it does sound like something he would do, not on discord though

desert gulch
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i would never take a risj

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risk

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no

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it was on twitch

robust vigil
mild axle
desert gulch
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oof

wicked frigate
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Hey guys what would you guys prefer ek of attic aio

wanton cliff
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We already told you 20 times @wicked frigate

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Either is good

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Whichever you prefer

bronze island
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The Lian li seems like a good case

wanton cliff
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Which one

bronze island
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seems like you have to cable manage cleanly

wanton cliff
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O11, huh?

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How original

bronze island
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Sarcasm?

wanton cliff
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Yes

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It’s a good case but everyone uses it

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Make sure you watercool with it

bronze island
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It seems oriented around watercool.

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But I am nowhere near that level

small osprey
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you need to watercool with that case lmao

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you also need like 6-10 fans

wanton cliff
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An AIO would be good

bronze island
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I like big open cases like that cause I can fully see my build

small osprey
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aio is watercooling

small osprey
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you dont need a custom loop with o11 d lmao

wanton cliff
bronze island
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I have a phanteks case

small osprey
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oh

bronze island
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I forgot which one tho

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I like it but I just like more open cases as stated before

wanton cliff
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P300?

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The small one?

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P500a is big and massive and has great airflow and RGB and included fans

small osprey
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if you could have any case you wanted what would it be

wanton cliff
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Good question

bronze island
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The small one then

wanton cliff
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That one that was in the LTT PC vs MAC video

bronze island
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I might get it, the small one i have has 2 fans only

small osprey
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what was that

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screenshot?

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i would probably get o11d mini or smth

wanton cliff
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Some case that is $2000 or smthn like that and only 60 exist

small osprey
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oh lol

bronze island
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pyramid case

wanton cliff
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No

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Cursed airflow

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No build space

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Horrible cable management

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Doesn’t even look that good

small osprey
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or maybe the p600s

wanton cliff
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Is that even a thing?

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Screenshot?

small osprey
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yea

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uh cant rn

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but you can search it up

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im on phone

wanton cliff
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Oooh

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Vertical mounting brackets built in

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Doesn’t look like it has great airflow tho

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And no tempered glass

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Very efficient looking case otherwise

earnest ravine
muted patio
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Some things are a slightly higher priced than what's on sale right now but it's honestly OK

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Especially for a prebuilt

earnest ravine
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Yea

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They also have the 3070 but im good

muted patio
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IMO, if you don't want to build your own, that's fine

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Good for 1080p/1440p

earnest ravine
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My monitor is 1440p 165hz

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So probably be running 1440 p

soft arch
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crazy how every gpu is up 200+ dollars

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yeesh

earnest ravine
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Anything is better than my xbox one from 2013

wanton cliff
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Yeah

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They made for gaming usually

soft arch
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i mean marked up

wanton cliff
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Requires a lot of processing power

muted patio
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Tariffs do that

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It sucks

wanton cliff
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MSRP for just about any card is way above $200

soft arch
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yeah its just super bad rn

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i got a 3070 for like 500 and now they're 750+

muted patio
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Ye

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Paid $559 for the XC3 Ultra

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Yikes right now

soft arch
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yea man

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thank god i bought when i did lmao

wanton cliff
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I paid like $700 for mine

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A mandatory PSU was included tho

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So

muted patio
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The blow up PSU?

wanton cliff
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I’ll probs resell that and it’ll be somewhere around $600

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Yeah

muted patio
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oof

wanton cliff
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The gigabyte one

small osprey
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blow up psu?

wanton cliff
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I was going to sell it to a friend but I can’t in good conscience

small osprey
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sell on ebay

wanton cliff
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That’s the plan

ripe wedge
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mobo kinda oof tho

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but still decent

wanton cliff
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Doesn’t say RAM speed or PSU model

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Or anything like that

ripe wedge
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yeah

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its prolly 3000mhz ram

muted patio
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Mobo only does 2666mhz anyway

ripe wedge
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2933* iirc

muted patio
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With an i7

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With i5 it's 2666

ripe wedge
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oh

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oof

muted patio
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That's every B460 though

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It's why we steer people to Z490 for better upgrade path

little osprey
wanton cliff
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Heh lol

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That’s the one with zero airflow

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Please don’t buy that one

little osprey
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How does it have zero airflow?

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What about this one?

wanton cliff
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That looks like the same one

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The problem lies in the fact that no air can actually get in

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Plus you don’t need to spend $300 on a case

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A P500a for half that price will do just fine

little osprey
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How can no air actually get in? The filters?

wanton cliff
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No, there is just almost no place for air to get in

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Too many people have had that case and seen CPU and GPU temps go waaaaaaaay up, Morty

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Cable management pepeBleh

little osprey
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So no one has figured out how to flip the front fans to pull air in and the top and back to vent air?

wanton cliff
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It’s just the way the case is designed

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No it’s horrible

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Wdym ‘how’

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Oh wait

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You are a troll lol

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Aren’t you

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You got an AIO, but with something that looks like a GT 1010, horrible cable management, a motherboard ripped from some poor Optiplex, with a 650w power supply

mortal garnet
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ops on this?

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dunno much about z490 boards and would go ryzen route if i can get a 5000 series asap

wanton cliff
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Real quick

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10850 is around that same price rn

mortal garnet
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any links ?

wanton cliff
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What GPU do you plan to get?

wanton cliff
soft arch
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bro the cables

little osprey
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Dunno I see tons of good reviews and not a single one with airflow issues

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Must be people using weak ass fans

wanton cliff
mortal garnet
soft arch
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aight

mortal garnet
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not an option

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and i7 should be more than enough

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would settle for a 5600x but stock op

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im not too sure about the aio tho, i would jus get an arctic freezer but its too thicc for itx

wanton cliff
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Not particularly hard to get a Zen3 CPU tbh

mortal garnet
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yea, but impatient lmao

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i impulsively bought a 5600x a few days ago when i didnt need one but cancelled order

wanton cliff
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Why?

mortal garnet
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at the time i didnt need it

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but i legit ran into issues like the next day or so

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i have a 3700x rn

wanton cliff
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Not worth upgrade

soft arch
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5900x and 3070 here

wanton cliff
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From 3700x to 10700

soft arch
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3700x is good

wanton cliff
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Yeah

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Not worth spending extra money

mortal garnet
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idk what to do with parts

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i was gonna give my sister my old build

wanton cliff
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Never mind then

mortal garnet
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and jus do a whole new itx build and salvage gpu/drives

wanton cliff
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What you gonna put in there for an old GPU?

mortal garnet
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not really an upgrade, jus dont feel liek taking apart stuff

wanton cliff
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I see

mortal garnet
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and i might jus throw in a gt1030

wanton cliff
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Makes sense

mortal garnet
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they dont game, they jus need some type of gpu to display stuff

wanton cliff
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Good choice then

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If you could finish that list with GPU and all that

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Please do

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Easier to check against other stuff

mortal garnet
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i have a 3070

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and i might add a m.2, but i have an ssd and hdd rn

wanton cliff
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You can mark it as bought on PCPP

mortal garnet
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o true

left glacier
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Hello I'd like to ask what Mid tower Case supports micro ATX motherboard?

wanton cliff
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Any mid tower that supports ATX, I think

left glacier
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K

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Thx

wanton cliff
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Np

mortal garnet
#

i have the drives and possibly ram covered

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might add a m.2 but not sure

full atlas
mortal garnet
#

current build to reference

wanton cliff
#

Would the 3070 fit?

mortal garnet
#

yup

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a 3090 could fit too lol

hollow grail
#

weak

wanton cliff
#

What would you suggest, lili?

uncut pelican
strong knoll
#

why is there diff MHZ ram on this list lmao

wanton cliff
#

Wdym?

strong knoll
#

the 3700x list has two diff ram mhz

wanton cliff
#

I think that’s a mistake from him

uncut pelican
wanton cliff
#

Need a better side view

uncut pelican
#

Wow blurry qf

#

Af

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Pentium 4

strong knoll
#

oh well, you should change it to 3600MHz ram for better performance

uncut pelican
#

I got it working today after it crashed twice

wanton cliff
uncut pelican
#

333mhz 2gb ram

wanton cliff
#

It’s his current rig

mortal garnet
strong knoll
#

ohhh

quiet parrot
#

Hey guys, I went down the rabbit hole and now I'm stuck. I have a Dell Precision Tower 3620 iCore7, 32GB DDR4, NVIDIA Quadro K1200. Everything works great. Then I bought an NVIDIA Quadro M600 12GB card and wanted to put it in. Had to buy a new psu. Put in the PSU only to find out the case is too small to accomodate the M6000! Now I'm stuck with needing a new case. I like the fun look of the clear cases with all the RGB colors. This is just my personal desktop at work but I use it for looking at 3D x-rays (CAT Scans) so I needed more video power. I'm not opposed to buying a new Case+mobo but would like to just move my existing mobo and HDD over. I'm looking for recommendations if you have any.

wanton cliff
#

That would be a bit hard, since Dell uses weird first party mobos

mortal garnet
wanton cliff
#

But you would need a new case

quiet parrot
#

That's why I am open to a new mobo. I looked at the z490 but don't really know what I'm looking at (I'm not too techie). I do see that I would need to buy a CPU it looks like. Are they as simple as just buying one and dropping it in?

wanton cliff
#

Not really

#

You would need to know what CPU you currently have

#

Which is a simple as seeing in Task Manager

quiet parrot
#

I'd just buy a new CPU

wanton cliff
#

Ok then

#

Do you know if your programs are more CPU or GPU oriented?

quiet parrot
#

Wow....almost over my head. I think more CPU oriented

wanton cliff
#

Do you know if there is someone you could ask? I find it hard to believe you would buy a $1000 GPU just for something that’s more CPU oriented

quiet parrot
#

The xray program is heavy GPU. My other programs (practice management stuff, email, etc.)

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that's why I jumped at the M6000 when I got it almost 1/2 price.

wanton cliff
#

Can someone else take this one? I’ve got to go

quiet parrot
#

As for asking anyone....no luck. I live in a VERY rural town in the middle of the desert

wanton cliff
#

@muted patio

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Or someone

quiet parrot
#

thanks BA

hollow grail
#

hehehehehehe dell stuff is my specialty

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so iirc those will NOT like going in third party cases

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proprietary front panel IO and fan headers

quiet parrot
#

lol, I'm starting to hate Dell. I'm seeing how proprietary Dell is. I used to put systems together...back in the day. I remember how it was always a guess for which mobos fit in which cases.

hollow grail
#

oh dell is fantastic

quiet parrot
#

I'm thinking it would be better to just buy a new mobo and case. I just need help finding them.

hollow grail
#

well

#

what i7 does it have

#

like what generation

quiet parrot
#

Where do I look?

hollow grail
#

and what doesnt fit about the PSU?

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should show up in task manager

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if its running windows

quiet parrot
#

I needed a new PSU for the M6000 power (didn't have an extra 8 pin). PSU fits just fine, its the M6000 that doesn't fit in the case.

hollow grail
#

ohhhhh

#

i see

#

thats a fun card lol

quiet parrot
#

Its an i7-7700

hollow grail
#

oh yeah id just get a new cpu/mobo/ram at that point

quiet parrot
#

3.6GHz

hollow grail
#

thats only 4 cores

quiet parrot
#

Got ya. I saw that VintageRacer recommended the Z490. What do you think?

#

I can just buy the new case-mobo-ram, but I need help with that. I do want to bring my existing sata hdd into the new system. Don't feel like starting over with all my stuff.

hollow grail
#

so id clone it to ssd

#

personally

quiet parrot
#

I was looking for a case that was fun looking, I like the clear ones with all the lights. If I got the Z490, how to I know which CPU to buy and which case will accommodate it?

#

Love the idea of cloning....but have no idea how to do it.

hollow grail
#

just standard motherboard form factors

quiet parrot
#

what are form factors?

#

types of cases?

crude pecan
#

form fac·tor
/fô(ə)rm ˈfaktər,ˈfaktôr/
noun
plural noun: form factors
a mathematical factor that compensates for irregularity in the shape of an object, usually the ratio between its volume and that of a regular object of the same breadth and height.
the physical size and shape of a piece of computer hardware.
Definitions from Oxford Languages

quiet parrot
#

lol

hollow grail
#

lmfao

#

this lists cpus thatll work with z490

crude pecan
#

In computing, the form factor is the specification of a motherboard – the dimensions, power supply type, location of mounting holes, number of ports on the back panel, etc. ... Traditionally, the most significant specification is for that of the motherboard, which generally dictates the overall size of the case.

Computer form factor - Wikipedia

hollow grail
#

almost any case should be fine

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as long as it supports ATX motherboards

crude pecan
#

unless you got an itx case

quiet parrot
crude pecan
#

I would suggest the asus gamecube Micro-itx 4 controller ports, maximum airflow + personalized dvd drive and slots for sim cards

#

specs @quiet parrot

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cpu (if you can't find the socket type)

quiet parrot
#

I was looking for a clear case with all the cool RGB lights. A traditional tower fits the space I have

mortal garnet
#

p500a is a nice atx case

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lots of space for cable management etc

quiet parrot
#

thats a good looking case and looks like the z490 will fit in it.

mortal garnet
#

yea it def will

storm saffron
#

anyone here experience on their pc not waking up after sleep?

muted patio
#

Can't say as I have, I don't use sleep modes

storm saffron
#

mine sometimes won't wake up

#

i had to restart the pc

muted patio
#

I have 0 experience with that

#

I always just leave my machines on

jagged ember
#

You probably need to connect a peripheral to a usb2.0 port to reliably wake your pc

#

If all of it is plugged to a usb3.0 I cant wake my pc from sleep unless I hit the power button

muted patio
jagged ember
#

Yep, can confirm

#

Just tried it again lol

remote kelp
#

hi guys, (posted this in graphics card chat but this chat is better) - i just recently installed a new 3070 and every time i restart the pc for the first 30mins or so any game i launch freezes and i have to close it, eventually the issue resolves itself and after that everything works perfectly fine, i've tried ddu and underclocking but problem still persists

muted patio
#

DDU in safe mode?

remote kelp
#

yeah

muted patio
#

What size and model PSU?

remote kelp
#

corsair 850w

muted patio
#

RM?

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RMX?

remote kelp
#

yeah

#

oh

#

sec

#

rm850

muted patio
#

Perfect

#

You have two separate power cables to the card and not just one cable with two connectors?

remote kelp
#

oh, one with two connectors

#

is it better to have two separate?

muted patio
#

Yes

#

is the 3070 installed in a riser card for vertical mount?

jagged ember
#

Okay, amendment: you need to plug into a usb2.0 port if you're using usb hubs

#

If you plug directly into your pc doesn't matter what port

remote kelp
#

could you elaborate on that a little please lol

muted patio
#

What case do you have, PC case?

remote kelp
#

meshify c

muted patio
#

Ah, so the GPU is pluigged directly into the motherboard?

remote kelp
#

yeah

muted patio
#

K, good

#

Do you know what the errors in the crashes said?

muted patio
#

Hmmmmm k

crude pecan
#

vintage

#

your welcome for the whocrashed info 🙂

#

that was my doing : )

remote kelp
#

oh, yeah, it was lol

crude pecan
#

good luck mysticalia

#

Then I told them to go to you

muted patio
#

Next time do this in a chat so they don't have to repeat themselves pls

crude pecan
#

Alright my fault.

muted patio
#

Otherwise thx

#

I'd still like to see Event Viewer

crude pecan
#

I like to do it in pms because its more organized and if the chat goes by fast I won't lose messages

#

Search event viewer in the windows search bar

muted patio
#

I understand

crude pecan
#

@remote kelp

remote kelp
#

yup i got it open

muted patio
#

BUt if you can't fix it, now they have to do it all over again here lol

crude pecan
#

Yeah I'm sorry about that.

muted patio
#

Right side, Filter Log

crude pecan
#

I will be sure to do it in here from now on

muted patio
#

Well, left side click Windows Logs then System

crude pecan
#

*in this cord

muted patio
#

Then right side Filter Current View

#

Filter Current Log*

remote kelp
muted patio
#

Yep

#

Check ERROR and Critical

#

then OK

#

Look for Bugchecks and possibly Event Logs

crude pecan
#

as you can see vintage knows what hes doing much more than I do.

muted patio
#

Something with a stop code and file name

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LOL

#

I'm 41 years old, been doing this for 20+ years heh

crude pecan
#

lol I'm 14 and have been doing this for 2+ months

muted patio
#

It's all good, you're doing fine

mortal garnet
#

gonna need some help after youre done helping them lmao

#

i have a cursed problem with my pc

crude pecan
#

I can help you lance

muted patio
mortal garnet
#

its so weird, legit cant find anything about it

remote kelp
muted patio
#

Mmmm

#

Kinda

remote kelp
muted patio
#

NOt what I'm looking for

#

Looking for a stop code like 0x00000005 with a file name like nvidia.sys or something

mortal garnet
#

so basically, my audio gets all satitcally randomly and my mic disconnects and reconnects

muted patio
#

It's not always the graphics card, could be some other software interfering

mortal garnet
#

i thought it was a zapped usb port but it happens when i switch usb ports

#

and it only happens when i have my dac/amp plugged in

crude pecan
muted patio
#

You're not running aPentacon converter are you?

crude pecan
#

this is what I said to mysticalia lmao

mortal garnet
#

nope

muted patio
#

Good

mortal garnet
#

even more oddly, i can get it to go all static when i screenshare discord

#

idk how it connects to my problem

#

but i can get it to go all static when screensharing

remote kelp
#

i just realised i have no idea where the stop code and file name is x.x

muted patio
#

Let me grab one for you

remote kelp
#

oh, maybe this?

muted patio
#

Hmmm, same code

remote kelp
#

yeah

#

that's probably it

muted patio
#

Yeah, that's the same code

#

Was hoping for something with a file name

muted patio
mortal garnet
muted patio
#

Does it do it if you DL a large file like a game?

mortal garnet
#

i tried swapping wires and using different ports

#

and not that im aware of

remote kelp
#

oh this look promising

mortal garnet
#

i had this issue a while back when i got the zen dac and i thought the dac was the issue

#

but now im aware its my pc

muted patio
remote kelp
#

windows defender

#

on old laptop i had 360

muted patio
#

Any software like Armoury crate?

#

Dragon Center?

remote kelp
#

not that im aware of but i noticed armoury crate when i was getting pc files

muted patio
#

Check Programs for it. If you have it, remove it

remote kelp
muted patio
#

Ooooh, hey

mortal garnet
#

oh i forgot to mention, when things go all static, my mic disconnects and reconnects constantly

#

but all my other peripherals are fine

muted patio
#

It's uSB also?

#

The mic?

remote kelp
#

i dont think i have any other 3rd party antivirus btw

mortal garnet
#

yup

#

i tried swapping usb ports still an issue

muted patio
#

What about

#

no mic

#

and screenshare

mortal garnet
#

still static

#

i tested like everything possible but cant pinpoint the issue

muted patio
#

Or just new GPU?

mortal garnet
#

im about to give up and jus build a new system, i think its an issue with the motherboard

muted patio
#

Try a large file download. I want to know if the ethernet is causing interference. Listen to music or something while you do it?

mortal garnet
#

ill try

remote kelp
muted patio
#

If it's ONLY discord, we might be able to change some settings

mortal garnet
#

but this didnt happen when I did not own a dac/amp

muted patio
remote kelp
#

i believe so

muted patio
remote kelp
#

when i first put it together

muted patio
#

If you have an AMD CPU, did you download Ryzen Master and install the drivers from it?

mortal garnet
#

gonna download a random game inna sec

remote kelp
#

i have ryzen master

#

is it safe to assume the drivers wouldve installed themselves?

muted patio
#

Ok, so all that stuff was installed most likely. What motherboard and CPU?

#

No

#

Well, if you downloaded Ryzen Master yes

#

It should have asked you to install some things like Chipset, IO, etc

remote kelp
#

asus rog strix b550f and ryzen3700x

#

and yeah i did all that

#

bios update, chipset, io etc

muted patio
#

All of the errors you're getting are pointing to a driver issue

#

I'm trying to eliminate everything else

remote kelp
#

that's good

#

this might be interesting to know but

#

the first time i got this issue

#

i went into device manager

#

and deleted the driver

#

and let windows auto-reinstall it

#

and it seeeeemed to be fine?

muted patio
remote kelp
#

oooh

muted patio
#

Also, did you install the AMD VGA driver?

#

Can you remember if you did or not?

remote kelp
#

erm, not sure

#

name doesn't ring a bell

muted patio
#

It's an option in the Ryzen Master and from the motherboard site

#

Try the new BIOS and Chipset driver

#

if that doesn't work, we'll nuke and pave all the drivers and start over 😉

remote kelp
#

alright, will do

#

glad to know it's not a hardware issue XD

muted patio
#

Most likely not

#

ALthough

#

Don't forget that extra PCI-E power cable

#

Should be two instead of one

remote kelp
#

so it's fine to leave the second one just hanging?

#

the second branch

muted patio
#

Yeah

remote kelp
#

okay

#

another funny thing

#

i actually plugged in two pcies when i first put it together

#

and someone told me i didnt have to do that and i spent a long time taking it out lol

muted patio
#

Ugh

#

Yeah, the new cards draw a lot of power

#

Needs both cables TBH

remote kelp
#

oh god okay

muted patio
#

It's probably not the cause of your issue but....yeah.

mortal garnet
#

deosnt seem to be ethernet related

remote kelp
#

gna try installing the chipset and bios first then

#

getting that second cable back into the psu is going to be

#

a little problematic to say the least lol

muted patio
mortal garnet
#

rear io wise, mic, dac, keyboard

#

and ethernet

muted patio
#

Front?

mortal garnet
#

both my mice

muted patio
#

both mice

mortal garnet
#

yup, i got 2 lol

muted patio
#

What happens if you screenshare Discord and unplug them?

mortal garnet
#

one for gaming, other is productivity

muted patio
#

Does the static go away?

mortal garnet
#

the mic or mice?

muted patio
#

Cuz I've heard my mouse make static in my HyperX USB headset

#

Mice

mortal garnet
#

oh ok ill try that

muted patio
#

It's very faint and only occasionally

#

Doesn't last long

#

Like a little scritch every now and then when I move it

mortal garnet
#

still an issue

muted patio
#

Also, try turning off Discord Hardware acceleration if it's on

#

Settings - Appearance, scroll down to thebottom

#

Might need to restart Discord

mortal garnet
#

still present

muted patio
#

Got another thing to try

mortal garnet
#

im willing to try pretty much anything thats free lol

muted patio
#

Try this. Requires uninstalling Discord and removing a couple folders then enabling Legacy Sound

#

Follow the steps in the Reddit thread

#

It's unjder Voice and Video

#

Audio Subsystem Drop down menu

mortal garnet
#

gonna try it

mortal garnet
#

rip

#

it was working for a bit then it happened again

fallow fulcrum
#

can someone help make a parts list the budget is $500 and it’s gonna be used to play games like Minecraft and gta as well as some editing

remote kelp
#

@muted patio done flashing bios/chipset, i didn't put the other cable in though, i felt like i'd needed to have done some unholy things to get it inside

#

game just did the freeze thing again, gna pull up some logs

#

it's still running in the background but the frames don't update

#

i think i found something

#

there's a warning in the event log basically saying my display driver froze and recovered

tawdry lance
#

So excited to start building my first PC. Any general tips?

muted patio
muted patio
remote kelp
#

i googled a little bit and someone said apparently it was a bug with the 457 driver?

muted patio
#

You're using 457?

remote kelp
#

oh wait i'm on 461 nvm

muted patio
#

HAHA

#

I was gonna say

#

DDU

#

All the things this time

#

Not just nVidia

remote kelp
#

ah, last time i ddu'd i basically did that

#

just to be safe

#

and i think it was fine until i restarted again

#

@muted patio okay, DDU'd everything

#

intel amd nvidia all gone

#

windows auto-reinstall just happened

#

so far everything works great but i feel like the moment i restart or something it'll begin all over again lol

but i think this means it's definitely some sort of driver issue?

muted patio
#

Probably

#

Just the Windows driver?

#

Nothing from nVidia?

thorn willow
#

this seems interesting

mortal garnet
muted patio
#

But it only does it Discord screen sharing yeah?

#

And the fix i posted worked for a bit?

mortal garnet
#

it happens randomly, but i can trigger it by screensharing

#

i screenshared a few time with legacy mode and it worked for a bit then started repeating the issue

muted patio
#

Hmmmm...can you duplicate with a high CPU load?

#

Like, listen to music and run cinebench?

mortal garnet
#

i can try to trigger it

#

but its happened while playing cold war b4

#

nothing

#

played cold war while rendering a 4k video in ae lmao

muted patio
#

Well poo. I was hoping we could isolate it to the CPU or something

mortal garnet
#

think ima jus start on a new build

#

everything thats empty, i have already

#

gpu is a 3070

remote kelp
#

im kinda tempted to restart to see if it happens again

remote kelp
#

update - restarted, froze, installed v461 from nvidia website (no hd audio driver), froze, relaunched, fine now, heaven benchmark attempt 1 crash, attempt 2 fine

#

added second cable, took opportunity to reseat gpu too

remote kelp
#

appears to still be happening, event viewer gives same error (driver unresponsive and recovered), happens right after a restart but seems to fix itself after a while

mild axle
#

Hello There

#

im working still on my upgrade PC

mild axle
#

what does an "unlocked CPU" mean?

mild axle
#

@muted patio What is a Locked CPU Mean

terse jewel
#

does anyone know if a ryzen 5 3600 and a rtx 3060 ti would run fine with a 650 80+ Bronze psu?

mortal garnet
mortal garnet
#

or refer to a psu tierlist for a good option

mortal garnet
#

np

tame sable
#

Should i get an 10850k or a 10900f

#

i9

hollow grail
#

10850k

#

why the hell would u get a locked i9 lmfao

tame sable
#

well, im not bothered about OC, i will do if i want

hollow grail
#

im saying basically the only reason why the locked i9 exists is for OEMs lmfao

tame sable
#

whats an Oem

hollow grail
#

like dell or hp

tame sable
#

AHH I SEE

#

sorry caps lock

blazing pilot
#

Yo

tame sable
#

yo

blazing pilot
#

Umm can I send a pc and tell me is it be ready

#

Vr

tame sable
#

ok can do

blazing pilot
#

Sending it rn

tame sable
#

the link does not work

still roostBOT
#
JaxsterX2_🤮#0704 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hollow grail
#

yeah itll work

#

but wow thats overpriced

blazing pilot
#

Weird

#

That’s about 3 k usd

hollow grail
#

yeah

#

thats too much iirc

prime fractal
#

3,220 us

hollow grail
#

i mean theyre using this case

#

if thats what u like abt it

blazing pilot
#

Ok I need a 2k usd build

#

Is that hard

#

Gaming be mainly

#

And vr

tame sable
#

should i waait for intel 11th gen or get 10th gen now?

hollow grail
mortal garnet
#

when is 11th gen supposedly releasing?

blazing pilot
hollow grail
#

you said 2k budget

#

this is 2k budget

hollow grail
mortal garnet
#

ggs

#

with a 2k budget i would jus get a 1000 psu

#

jus so you dont have to worry about it for like 10 years or so

hollow grail
#

id do that too if they werent like

#

much more expensive

mortal garnet
#

true

#

and it lowkey seems like he wants a bprebuilt

blazing pilot
#

Ok

#

When can founders

#

And where

hollow grail
#

thats just a placeholder

#

get whatever isnt zotac and ur good

mortal garnet
#

i lowkey like zotac

blazing pilot
#

Ok does it need to be 3080

mortal garnet
#

if youre spending 2k, it should be a 3080

hollow grail
#

why are you begging for a worse pc

blazing pilot
#

Am dumb at pc crap

#

Ok but do I need 4tb

hollow grail
#

true

#

but thats why we're here

#

i mean why not

mortal garnet
#

cant really complain about more storage

hollow grail
#

cloning stuff is expensive

#

like

#

resources wise

#

takes time