#building-and-recc-chat

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restive nebula
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what is

ripe wedge
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the z73 kraken

restive nebula
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no way bruh

muted patio
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Threadripper needs a TR4 cooler

ripe wedge
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nhd15 works on tr4 right?

rich helm
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Like a noctua tr4

hollow grail
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with like 500 delta fans

rich helm
muted patio
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Yes

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Specifically made for TR4 with a larger contact area

ripe wedge
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interesting list tho

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would you raid the 980 pros together?

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or separate?

rich helm
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Would a 1500w even be enough for 2 3090s and a threadripper 3990x

ripe wedge
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prolly not overclocked lol

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you would prolly need multiple psus

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like 2

rich helm
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I think a 1600w would be better right

ripe wedge
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I think there are 2000w psus right?

rich helm
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Not really consumer ones I would guess

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
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yeah but not spook ones

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I think evga makes a really high end one

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supernova

worn wave
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FSP makes a 2000w one

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but its for mining

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EVGA does have a 2000w

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you cant get it in the US though

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250v only

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Also they made a EVGA 2200 P2

fallen urchin
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So I'm working on my first build and I found a Asus X570-P Prime AM4 motherboard for 120 at mirco center. Just was wondering if it was a good deal for the board and if it was good for a first build?

verbal quarry
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well on newegg it shows its 224 so i would say it is

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@fallen urchin ^

fallen urchin
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Okay. it was an open box but

verbal quarry
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for open box thats not bad

ripe wedge
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I mean as long as it works

wanton cliff
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Isn’t that one mATX though?

ripe wedge
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no

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thats an atx

lean badge
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Hello

ripe wedge
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so whats the issue right now @lean badge

lean badge
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Can you get into a call?

ripe wedge
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why?

lean badge
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I’m not good at explaining things

ripe wedge
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just send pictures of your motherboard ill look over it

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is it not booting?

desert gulch
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make sure to dm pics

lean badge
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No I’m building it

desert gulch
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cause you arent lvl 3 yet

ripe wedge
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the pics can be sent here

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in build chat

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ah

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which part are you on

desert gulch
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oh just not general?

ripe wedge
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yeah not general lol

lean badge
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I have a few things to plug in and idk where they go exactly

ripe wedge
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which plugs

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send a pic if you dont know the name

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fpanel connectors?

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like says hdd light

lean badge
ripe wedge
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ah argb plugs

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and a fan connector?

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you need to plug in your cpu power

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far left of your pic

lean badge
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And what wire goes there

ripe wedge
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the wire

lean badge
ripe wedge
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yeah

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top is cpu fan

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bottom argb

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which mobo is that

lean badge
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B365m ds3h micro atx

ripe wedge
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ah

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next to ram is where you plug in one of those

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its the one that obviously fits

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thats connected to your cpu fan

lean badge
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There’s that all it says on it is ktc

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And number 31

ripe wedge
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im thinking its a gpu connector but not 100%

granite lily
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Anyone point me on where to choose RAM

lean badge
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@ripe wedge where would it go

restive nebula
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pcie?

lean badge
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Ktc numbers 31

restive nebula
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idk

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then

fossil halo
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which cpu do you have

granite lily
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I wont the newegg shuffle lottery today for the right to buy a 3800x but I have had a 5600x on order from BB for a couple weeks

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Been reading all night and it seems like the 5600x is the better value for my new build

desert gulch
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depends on what you want

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for streaming and such 3800x better

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it just depends if you need those extra cores or if you want the gaming perf

granite lily
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Just bought a ASUS - ROG Crosshair VIII Hero mobo too

desert gulch
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why

granite lily
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I am a very light gamer, msotly on my xbox series but play LoL on PC

desert gulch
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thats a really nice mobo for a meh cpu

granite lily
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Well I picked up a 3090 rtx as well....

fossil halo
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WAIT NEWEGG SHUFFLING THE 3800X CPU NOW AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

fossil halo
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if u got that kinda cash

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get the trident z royal

desert gulch
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5600x may bottleneck the 3090

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depending on stuff

fossil halo
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^^^^^^^^^^

desert gulch
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in games it may

granite lily
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Well the 3090 was more because I couldnt get anything else

fossil halo
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that is actually true

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5600x may bottleneck the 3090

desert gulch
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id get a better cpu

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since you got the nice mobo and gpu

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get like a 5800x

granite lily
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OK sure which one(s)?

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OH SHOOT

desert gulch
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5800x very nice

granite lily
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thats what I meant I won the shuffle for

desert gulch
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ohhhh

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yeah then go for it

granite lily
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AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Desktop Processor

desert gulch
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mhmm

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thats a rly nice cpu

granite lily
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But given the choice is it worth it to jsut get the 5900x? over it

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but I dont have a window to get the 5900x

desert gulch
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i mean 5900x is better

granite lily
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just thinking about cost effectiveness

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Lower power requirements on the 5600x, 50% less than 5800x

desert gulch
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yeah thats cause it can do less

granite lily
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basically same clock speed right? just two mroe cores?

desert gulch
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i mean basically

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but you want something more powerful for a 3090

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for sure

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especially in gaming

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what resolution are you gonna game in tho?

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like 4k or 1440?

granite lily
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lol I havent got a new monitor

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so 1080p

desert gulch
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oof

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3090 way overkill for that lol

uncut pelican
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Yo

desert gulch
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id go for a 3070

granite lily
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my TV is 4k for my XSX

desert gulch
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3070 plus 5600x is a rly good combo

granite lily
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ya but Ihave been trying for months and this 3090 I already have is all I could ge tmy hands on

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I did have a 10% off birthday coupon though lol

desert gulch
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still id reccomend going for a 3060ti or 3070

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lol

granite lily
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aight ill pray BB ships my 5600x and just pass on the 5800x shuffle

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cant justify paying the 9 shipping charge lol

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I might be cheap

desert gulch
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lol just be aware 5600x will bottleneck that 3090 like crazy

granite lily
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ya but not for crypto right?

fossil halo
desert gulch
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prolly not

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but for games

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it will %100

granite lily
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Ha what can I say the government wants to send me a stimulus check I spent it

wanton cliff
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You can def get a better CPU but the 3090 at heart isn’t a gaming card

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It’s basically a 3080 with more VRAM when it comes to gaming

granite lily
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annnnnnd now its ten I really was this close to getting 3800x lol

granite lily
desert gulch
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rendering

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video editing

wanton cliff
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Heavy workstation stuff

granite lily
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Slicing models for my 3d printers?

wanton cliff
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Sure

granite lily
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look im just hoping it has some benefit to me lol Id trade it in a heartbeat for a couple 3080s

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$1444 was SO much for a GPU

wanton cliff
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Also futureproofing

granite lily
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ya thats true thanks!

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Thanks for all the input peoples

desert gulch
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lol at least you got a better value than buying a scalped 3070 or 3080

fossil halo
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3080ti is going to be the 3090 type gaming card or so i heard

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or the specs that we heard leaked earlier were wrong or smth

sharp osprey
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Yo can someone help me? I just upgrade MB and it won’t boot into windows

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I got asus b550 rog strix

fossil halo
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what cpu

sharp osprey
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R7 3700x

desert gulch
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boot order

fossil halo
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yea

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that thing

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check which drive its booting off

desert gulch
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you used the same drive?

sharp osprey
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Using same drive

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I had one ssd and one nvme ass

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Ssd

wanton cliff
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You did load windows onto it, right?

sharp osprey
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Yes, all I did was switch MB

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I also added a nvme ssd

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So now I have one ssd and 2 nvme ssd

wanton cliff
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NVMe is SSD but ok

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I forgot how to get the boot order from that mobo

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Look it up on le google

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How to get to the boot order area

sharp osprey
hasty tendon
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anyone know any good looking black atx cases with decent airflow?

muted patio
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P500A

wanton cliff
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You are sure that you loaded windows onto it?

wanton cliff
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Oh damn vintage got there first

hasty tendon
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i just search that up? no brand name?

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P500a

wanton cliff
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It’s the first thing that pops up

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Phanteks P500A

muted patio
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Phanteks

hasty tendon
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ok thanks

wanton cliff
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P500A digital is cool but like $50 more

sharp osprey
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I’m 100% sure I have windows loaded on my ssd

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All I did was switch mb

wanton cliff
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There should be no reason that you can’t change boot order

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What CPU are you using?

sharp osprey
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R7 3700x

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Yeah the only thing I did was changed motherboards and add a nvme ssd

wanton cliff
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Keep trying I suppose

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What do you have in the Kingston drive?

sharp osprey
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What

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Wait what is raid mode?

wanton cliff
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Any important files?

wanton cliff
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Unless it’s on

sharp osprey
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It’s not on.

wanton cliff
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Ok

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Anyways

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Do you have any important files on the Kingston drive?

sharp osprey
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Yeah

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I’m not going to clear and download new windows

wanton cliff
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Just download it on the Kingston drive I was going to say

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Get the files off using another computer or laptop or something

sharp osprey
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Wait what bios am I supposed to have

wanton cliff
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Doesn’t matter because you don’t need to download a new one

sharp osprey
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Should I update bios?

wanton cliff
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No

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You can’t anyways

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Not right now

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It would simply not benefit you

sharp osprey
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Reset my bios?

wanton cliff
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Probably not

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@muted patio resetting bios just resets all settings like a CMOS clear right?

sharp osprey
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AMI Native NVMe Driver Support is on

wanton cliff
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That’s fine

muted patio
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Look for legacy or csm

sharp osprey
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Yeah I see it

muted patio
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On?

sharp osprey
muted patio
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Boot from storage uefi

sharp osprey
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Dw those qtips are not dirty lol

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Ok

muted patio
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Was csm on?

sharp osprey
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No it was off

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I had to enable it

muted patio
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Hmmmm....try it this way

sharp osprey
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Ok

muted patio
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Dave and restart

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Save

lyric thistle
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Dave sailormoonhappy sailormoonhappy

sharp osprey
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Should I just take out my new nvme that I put it?

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Because I added one. It has nothing on it.

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Wtf

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It just booted up after I did it again

wanton cliff
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I suppose that’s an idea

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Make sure PSU is off

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Where is windows by the way? The 970?

sharp osprey
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No it’s on the Kingston. I was going to clone it to the nvme so I can have the 970 as boot drive

wanton cliff
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Wait so it’s on the Kingston, which it’s booting from

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But it doesn’t detect an OS

muted patio
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Dont question

sharp osprey
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No it didn’t, but after I changed it to boot from UEFI it booted

muted patio
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Copy while its working

sharp osprey
wanton cliff
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Ofc it’s working now

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What did it?

sharp osprey
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Switched from legacy to UEFI

wanton cliff
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I see

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Alright

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If it’s fixed, it’s fixed

sharp osprey
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Wtf

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Now it’s not showing my new ssd lol

wanton cliff
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You need to initialize it

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Right click windows button

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Go to disk management

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Right click drive and initialize

sharp osprey
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No, I know how to do that. It’s not showed the drive at all

wanton cliff
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Hm?

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Odd

sharp osprey
wanton cliff
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Is it not the black one there?

sharp osprey
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Is it?

wanton cliff
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I believe so

sharp osprey
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New simple volume

wanton cliff
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Initialize it?

muted patio
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Yes

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500gb 970 yeah?

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Thats it

sharp osprey
wanton cliff
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New simple volume

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Yep

sharp osprey
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Do I leave or changed that?

wanton cliff
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Leave

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Unless you want a different partition size to put Linux or something on there

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If so, leave like 200gb

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I don’t think you want to do that though

sharp osprey
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Alright I got it.

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Thanks I’m going to restart and hope it boots with no problems. Thanks

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Lol now I don’t have Ethernet.

still roostBOT
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sharp osprey
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Oops

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Heck to asus

wanton cliff
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Asus is good

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Don’t diss my boy asus

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@sharp osprey you could RAID0 your two NVMe SSDs

outer ember
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i was wondering if any one knows of a pc case with tow i/o panel two motherboard trays and can support a atx and a (m-atx / lintel flex atx) at the same time

rich helm
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Asus is good but overpriced sometimes

sharp osprey
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What does raid do? Combined them into one partition?

wanton cliff
wanton cliff
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Makes the drives faster

muted patio
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P500A lol butis atx and itx

wanton cliff
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2x the chance of failure tho

outer ember
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@wanton cliff yes

sharp osprey
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Okay but I don’t have Ethernet though. Some window popped up saying something about Ethernet but I closed it

rich helm
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Is there one with atx and matx I think you can get atx and mini itx

sharp osprey
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Something with asus though

muted patio
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Phanteks p500a is dual pc

wanton cliff
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Is it?

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Nice

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P500a good for everything

muted patio
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Yes

outer ember
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but what is the 2nd try size @muted patio

wanton cliff
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I should get one

muted patio
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Itx

rich helm
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Isn’t the p500a just that one mid atx tower lol

outer ember
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that will not work

rich helm
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Or am I thinking of a different t one

muted patio
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Gotta be matx?

rich helm
muted patio
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Big case then

outer ember
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i was told by Phanteks they do not make on

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one

sharp osprey
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So you recommended me putting my two nvme ssds into raid mode?

wanton cliff
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Not necessarily

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Just something neat you could do

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Also @rich helm your name is a lie

rich helm
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Is the Corsair 4000d an atx + matx

wanton cliff
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Because I am the worst ness

outer ember
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LIAN LI PC-D666WRX Black / Red Aluminum Computer Case
Item #: 9B-11-112-456|Mfr. Part #: PC-D666WRX|UNSPSC: 43201601
this is the best i can find but it may not be made any more

rich helm
sharp osprey
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If it would my my loading times better I would do it. Does it?

wanton cliff
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Second worse ness then

wanton cliff
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But it’s more of a neat little feature than something that is recommended

wanton cliff
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Idk about that particular case

outer ember
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i do not think it is still made @wanton cliff

muted patio
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THere's another case but it's $500

sharp osprey
wanton cliff
muted patio
wanton cliff
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Is the P500a mid tower or full tower?

fair birch
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isnt it mid

sharp osprey
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Anything here look wrong because I have no Ethernet connection.

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muted patio
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mid

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But danged near full tower size

main whale
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Is it better to sell off my old motherboard and CPU at eBay or Craigslist?

wanton cliff
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Whichever you prefer really

outer ember
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i was almost thinking of a MetallicGear NEO Qube, Dual Tempered Glass Design, Dual Chamber ATX Mid-Tower, Digital-RGB Lighting, Dual System Support, Black

sharp osprey
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I suggest fb market place local

main whale
wanton cliff
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Imagine FB

rich helm
wanton cliff
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Good name

muted patio
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Lol, I posted that above XD

rich helm
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Oh lol

outer ember
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no no to much

muted patio
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spendy as heck

rich helm
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I don’t think many of the other cases will have dual io panels tho will they?

wanton cliff
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It’s that or spend equally as much on ITX

muted patio
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Yeah, IDK about dual PC cases much

rich helm
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Or fit another matx board in it

muted patio
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I know ATX/ITX but not ATX/M-ATX

rich helm
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Yeah that Thermaltake seems to be the only one at least on this article I found

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Nobody wants to make cases that big lol

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I’m sure they are really had to ship

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And very niche

outer ember
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it is is not big it is just wide

rich helm
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Most people don’t need a double pc case

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Just get two cases

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And two PCs

muted patio
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Well, yeah, double thickness makes sense for two full systems

rich helm
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Honestly might be cheaper

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Then putting it in one case

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Also more space effective

outer ember
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trying to clean up a desk the 2nd is not used as much as the main

sharp osprey
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Anyone know why switch mb caused me to lose Ethernet? Some window popped open from asus saying something about it but I closed it

rich helm
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Any of the cases would take up as much or more room as 2 PCs

muted patio
wanton cliff
rich helm
sharp osprey
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Do I get them from asus?

muted patio
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yes

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From the motherboard support page

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One more time Worple and it's a ban

rich helm
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Usually if you have a driver disk or a driver package it will be part of it

muted patio
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no buying or selling here

outer ember
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have fun i am off for the night

muted patio
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night and good luck!!

sharp osprey
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How do I download them if I have no Ethernet

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Lol

muted patio
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Connect phone by USB

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Turn on Hotspot connection sharing

sharp osprey
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👍

muted patio
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Use phone to get WiFi or internet

wanton cliff
rich helm
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If I needed two PCs really close together I would get a mid tower atx and then a sub 10l mini itx build

muted patio
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SOmeone who keeps trying to sell a card to "billy"

rich helm
outer ember
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or go to a free internet place and put them on a usb and up load it from there

rich helm
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How to get banned 101

wanton cliff
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Anyways I gots to go now

sharp osprey
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Holy poop my hotspot is so slow

wanton cliff
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See y’all tomorrow

muted patio
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night

sharp osprey
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I have unlimited too

muted patio
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Fall asleep to some Linsey Stirling 🙂

wanton cliff
wanton cliff
sharp osprey
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Wait

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My drivers used to be Realtek now there TAP windows adapter

muted patio
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that's your phone via USB

sharp osprey
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No, I see my apple one

muted patio
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That's a VPN adapter

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You have a VPN?

sharp osprey
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No

muted patio
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Did you grab the drivers?

sharp osprey
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My phone really slow for some reason

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Which is weird cause I have Verizon

muted patio
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Might be missing USB drivers too

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so it's using a default one

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Once you get ethernet grab all the drivers from the mobo website

sharp osprey
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Jesus, is there a place where it downloads them all at once?

muted patio
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Not anywhere I'd trust. Should only be like 4-5 at most

sharp osprey
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Wait does my mb have onboard WiFi? B550- F asus rog stick

muted patio
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No

sharp osprey
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Wait, it’s not my Ethernet drivers

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Says I have them. But it used to be Realtek

muted patio
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Old motherboard lol

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New motherboard == new drivers and hardware

sharp osprey
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So do I have the right drivers?

muted patio
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Just those three. Might be using a default Windows driver for the LAN/Ethernet

sharp osprey
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My phone is speedy now

muted patio
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nice

sharp osprey
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It’s making me download armory crate

muted patio
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I hate that software, it' sbuggy and interferes with things

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You can use it to get all the drivers then uninstall IMO.

sharp osprey
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That’s what popped before and said something about ethernet

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But I closed it

muted patio
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based on what you posted there, it looks like a VPN is also installed

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Maybe from ASUS or something? IDK

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That's what TAP is and probably why your ethernet isn't working

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The LAN should be Intel, not TAP

sharp osprey
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Should I uninstall it?

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Idk that was there with the other motherboard. I had a asrock b450 pro4

muted patio
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Interesting, I only see that when I turn my VPN on.

sharp osprey
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Okay well I have Ethernet now.

muted patio
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sweet

sharp osprey
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Now there was talk about me putting my two nvme into raid mode. Should I do it?

muted patio
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IMO, no

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NVME fast enough as it is

sharp osprey
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IMO?

muted patio
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In My Opinion

sharp osprey
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Would moving all my files from my ssd(including my windows) to my nvme Samsung evo plus worth the time and effort ?

muted patio
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Current drive?

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Honestly, you most likely won't notice a difference in loading times

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NVME is fast for loads no matter what

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It's the writes where things like DRAM start to matter

sharp osprey
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My current drive setup is a sata drive with my os on it and nvme 500gb with no dram and a 500 evo plus.

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The evo plus has nothing on it

muted patio
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The difference in load times between SATA and NVME is a couple seconds at best

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The no DRAM NVME will suffer for large writes like moving a bunch of photos and stuff to it but

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loading times, not gonna matter much

sharp osprey
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What about download gaming and applications?

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Games*^

muted patio
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Not really

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SATA maxes out at 500+ MB/s

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doubt your DL is faster than that

sharp osprey
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I have gb Ethernet

muted patio
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It's only transfers and writes where stuff really matters

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Right

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but

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1 GB internet

sharp osprey
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Nah I’m kidding lol

muted patio
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is in megabits

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translate to megabytes, it's only 125 MB/s

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divide bits by 8

sharp osprey
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Nah my download speeds are like 150 mb/s or something like that

earnest olive
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MB/s and Mbps is a very big distinction

muted patio
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Ye

sharp osprey
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Wtf is it then?

muted patio
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In my opinion, it's not worth the effort

earnest olive
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Mbps = MB/s * 8

muted patio
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megabytes vs megabits

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Internet is always megabits

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data is always megabytes

sharp osprey
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So when I do a speed test what’s it measuring by

muted patio
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Bits

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Megabits

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mbps

sharp osprey
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O

muted patio
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not MB/s

sharp osprey
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Okok

muted patio
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Ye, take your internet speed, divide by 8 to get megabytes

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Slimy move by ISP's since the dawn of time

earnest olive
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they just want to market bigger numbers lol

muted patio
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Exactly

sharp osprey
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So I’m getting 18 MB/s?

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That bad or good

muted patio
#

It's fine

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nothing you can do about if your iSP doesn't offer faster speeds lol

little osprey
#

@severe axle why does it matter its the ones closest to the cpu and there is 4 channels

sharp osprey
#

My dad is the owner or something. He buys from a big brand and resells to people who can’t get internet via satellite or other ways

earnest olive
#

@little osprey your memory config is getting suboptimal performance

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most 4 dimm slot motherboards will want you to put the modules in slots 2 and 4 from the cpu

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with 1 being the closest one

little osprey
#

well thats what my friend told me years ago

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its best to have it in the one closest to the cpu

earnest olive
#

i mean if you don't believe me read the manual

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i've built like 30 pcs this year

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and every single one that had 4 slots wanted them in slots 2 and 4

little osprey
#

So slot 2 and 4 then?

earnest olive
#

yes

little osprey
#

Is it significant ?

muted patio
#

There aren't 4 channels though

earnest olive
little osprey
#

like how can one tell thats the thing

muted patio
#

There are two

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A channel

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and B channel

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Read the motherboard manual

#

It will say what slots it prefers

earnest olive
#

you lose up to 40% of your gaming performance in single channel

muted patio
#

Or give us motherboard manual

little osprey
#

Don'

muted patio
#

And we can check for you

earnest olive
#

i didn't say anything about 4 channels

little osprey
#

dont even notice it lol

earnest olive
#

4 slots

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almost every motherboard with 4 slots wants them in 2 and 4

little osprey
#

Aorus Elite x570 Wifi Board

#

Hey, I was wondering if anyone could answer a few questions about a laptop I have ... Its hard drive crashed.... 😦

muted patio
#

B450 or B460, can't remember

earnest olive
#

single channel memory has more of an effect on frame drops and minimums than it does on average fps

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my laptop used to have single channel 16gb

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got average of 100 fps in league with drops down to 25

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upgraded to dual channel 16gb without changing anything else

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now averages 150 fps with drops down to 120

muted patio
#

So that x570 board

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It doesn't matter

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1 and 3

little osprey
#

LOL I havent had frame drops in league

muted patio
#

or 2 and 4

little osprey
#

or any other game

muted patio
earnest olive
#

well you haven't compared it to dual channel

muted patio
#

Side by side is bad

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every other slot is good

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Rule of thumb

earnest olive
#

interesting, does that mobo have t-topology?

muted patio
#

IDK

earnest olive
#

my b550 aorus elite is daisy chain

little osprey
#

english

muted patio
#

Pretty much every X570 is this way though

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In my experience

earnest olive
#

just checked and it is daisy chain

#

not sure why they are saying both configs are the same then

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one is better than the other

muted patio
#

IDK

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Of course

#

but either will work

earnest olive
#

most likely 2 and 4

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or A2/B2

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in this case

muted patio
#

I'd be curious to see the testing differences between A1/B1 and A2/B2

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Might do that one day

earnest olive
#

shouldn't be huge

little osprey
#

so 1 and 3 then for the channels right?

earnest olive
#

might have some difference if manually tightening timings

little osprey
#

ill do the switch then i suppose

earnest olive
#

use slot A2 and B2

little osprey
#

2/4

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gotcha

earnest olive
little osprey
#

Proper right

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@earnest olive

earnest olive
#

hard to tell with that angle and lighting lol

little osprey
#

2 and 4

earnest olive
#

i can't exactly see the slots

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but yes 2 and 4 is correct

little osprey
#

budget is 1000 what is the best you can offer for that

verbal quarry
#

a computer

paper jay
muted patio
#

probs 3rd party seller

paper jay
#

I don’t think it is

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It’s been like that for like a few weeks

#

All the GPU prices are through the roof rn

fossil halo
#

the person who reacted

muted patio
#

Sopld and SHipped by Slava computers

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Not Newegg

fossil halo
#

not to be a fed

#

thats just sus

paper jay
#

The price is the same on Amazon

muted patio
#

Thx, I'll deal with

#

Probs same seller

paper jay
#

The only 1660 I can find that’s actually the normal price is on scam websites

muted patio
#

The one on Amazon is Bonbon electronics

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XD

fossil halo
#

then

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dont get a 1660 ti

#

rtx 3060 dropping feb 25th

verbal quarry
#

oh i was wondering when they dropped

earnest olive
#

look for used gpus, shortage is making new gpus not exist

ripe wedge
#

^^^

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fb marketplace or offerup are decent

#

ebay eh but has buyer protection

paper jay
ripe wedge
#

no

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that just goes to the msi store

fossil halo
#

yea lmao

paper jay
#

Oh nvm

ripe wedge
#

shows a collection of what msi has

fossil halo
#

wait to

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yo

#

what do u guys think

#

should i go for the 3060 on launch day

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or should i wait for radeon

ripe wedge
#

eh

fossil halo
#

6600xt 6700xt type

ripe wedge
#

grab what you can

fossil halo
#

ig

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tbh ill wait

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i lasted like 3 months so far on a gt 710 i can do 3 more

earnest olive
#

try to get both lol

ripe wedge
#

^

fossil halo
#

bruh

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im not going for the hassle of selling one

ripe wedge
#

lol

earnest olive
#

no

fossil halo
#

and i dont have the money to buy both 🤣

earnest olive
#

you don't understand what i mean...

fossil halo
#

nah i see

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try to get both

earnest olive
#

buy whatever you can buy regardless of brand

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lol

fossil halo
#

keep what i can get

#

yea

ripe wedge
#

which is why fb marketplace and offerup better

earnest olive
#

3060 is going to have even higher demand than the higher end stuff

fossil halo
#

tru

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but i mean

ripe wedge
#

@paper jay also dont bypass the filter

fossil halo
#

less demand then from the miners i would assume

#

tho

earnest olive
#

i wouldn't be surprised if 3060 stock doesn't stabilize until 2023

fossil halo
#

LMAO

ripe wedge
#

lol

fossil halo
#

i mean i think

ripe wedge
#

yeah its gonna be awhile

fossil halo
#

im ready to buy a rtx card

ripe wedge
#

people buy cards up so fast

paper jay
#

What’s the difference between the evga and regular versions

fossil halo
#

i "practiced" with the 3060ti

#

like signing up for notis and stuff

ripe wedge
#

what do you mean regular versions

#

founders editions?

muted patio
#

higher clocks

paper jay
#

Sorry

earnest olive
#

especially considering that news sources are reporting the shortage is only going to get worse

fossil halo
#

founders cheaper tho

paper jay
#

I replied to wrong thing

ripe wedge
#

yeah and better cooling a bit

fossil halo
#

i mean

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well

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kinda

muted patio
#

it is going to get worse with the Lunar new Year here

ripe wedge
#

yeah

#

because of the 3 weeks

muted patio
#

Factories short on workers for a month

ripe wedge
#

yeah

fossil halo
#

bc pandemic low key starting to wrap up

#

tho

#

like

#

beginning of wrap up

ripe wedge
#

its almost been a year

muted patio
#

It's the Chinese Lunar new Year

fossil halo
#

with the first vaccines coming out to ppl who need them mose

#

most*

muted patio
#

Month long vacation basically for hte factory workers

paper jay
#

Will the shortage end after the pandemic?

fossil halo
#

well

#

not like

#

shortage done

ripe wedge
#

the shortage will stop when they mass produce enough of them for the consumers to not instantly drain the stock

paper jay
#

Yeah ik

#

But like

fossil halo
#

but it should get marginally better after the pandemic

ripe wedge
#

the pandemic isnt going anywhere for awhile

fossil halo
#

should be drawing to a close by aug september tbh

ripe wedge
#

its gonna be here for a few more years I expect

fossil halo
#

the worst will end by the end of this year

balmy patio
#

prolly when demand stops being more than what they produce

#

bigga 😳

fossil halo
#

unless those new variants are like

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bad bad

#

then we screwed LOL

balmy patio
#

and people don't end up wanting them lmao

fossil halo
#

i want

#

a card

#

that

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is not

#

2gb of ddr5

balmy patio
#

gt 1010 moment lmao

paper jay
#

Are CPUs on a shortage as well

fossil halo
#

with dogwater clock speeds and dogwater performance

#

yea

balmy patio
#

new stuff that no one wants cuz the 1030 exists

fossil halo
#

cpu and gpu mainly

#

i should have gotten 1030

#

1030 is playable

balmy patio
fossil halo
#

for some games

#

cpu prices are inflated tho

#

r5 3600 for 199$

#

psssshhh

balmy patio
fossil halo
#

nah fortnite 1080p low is 60fps

balmy patio
#

better than the 30 frames my switch pushes

balmy patio
fossil halo
#

i get 40-70fps on my gt 710 with the new performance mode

#

with view distance on epic tho

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everything else low

balmy patio
#

saw an old pc that had like sum 3rd gen i3 and a 1030 branded as "fortnite gaming pc"

fossil halo
#

and oc'ed to the max

#

like

balmy patio
#

it even had a fortnite sticker on the side panel

fossil halo
#

wehre if i do it further

#

it crashes

#

FORTNITE GAMING PC LMFAOOOO

balmy patio
#

i wonder what the benefits are

fossil halo
#

performance mode basically mobile

#

literally

#

mobile graphics on pc

#

i think basically switch graphics

paper jay
#

What’s a good entry level GPU that can run most games decently

fossil halo
#

rx 570

#

well

#

rx 580

#

or a gtx 1070

#

entry level=old basically at this point

#

assuming used*

balmy patio
#

1070 is a nice card

#

entry level new would be 1650s and above

fossil halo
#

like this type of offer

balmy patio
#

1070/ti if you can snag it for like 150-250

fossil halo
#

gtx 1070 is not worth more than 250

#

yea

#

this is probably not real

earnest olive
#

just a PSA... offerup "buyer protection" is not real

#

at $500 shipped you are more likely to get a box full of rocks than a 3070

#

nobody sells new high demand items at a loss

fossil halo
#

yea

#

ikr

paper jay
#

Does the 1070 or 1660 perform better?

earnest olive
#

1070

#

1070 also has 2GB more VRAM so that's cool

#

1660 is more power efficient

paper jay
#

Ah ok

#

Thanks

earnest olive
#

the difference is not that large, both are good cards, depends on the price you get them

paper jay
#

Is power efficiency normally a problem?

earnest olive
#

usually no

paper jay
#

Oh alright

earnest olive
#

it can be if you're building a small form factor pc

#

or upgrading a prebuilt with a bad power supply

#

for example when upgrading an optiplex with no pcie power connectors, you'll be limited to a 75W graphics card with no external power (1050Ti, some 1650s)

desert gulch
#

I should def start selling cards at a deal

#

Since no sales tax here

#

Big brain time

little osprey
#

Lol

#

I got a new case the other day for a build I might be doing

#

Bare ones Rosewill Thor v2

tawdry lance
#

about how long should a pc build take for a beginner?

#

from unboxing everything to complete windows installation

main whale
#

Always have a spare day for a build.

earnest olive
#

my first build took 3 hours

#

your results may vary depending on how much research you've done and how complicated your build was

#

mine was all air cooled with nothing fancy so not that hard

austere wagon
#

It took me a few hours I still have yet to set up windows cause I’m getting a key today so if you wanna start from unboxing to installing windows it’s a good month for me

#

But that’s also cause I’m a moron and didn’t have everything when I started

obsidian delta
#

Thoughts on this build? I'm going to put my old 970 in it until I can get my hands on a 3080

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stoic island
#

The 212 evo kinda bothers me, I'd prob get a Fuma 2 or similar, and the motherboard, might as well get b550, ram is meh, but current ddr4 prices kinda bad. Might also want to change case to something like MX331-Mesh-G at the same price that should give you better airflow. @obsidian delta

civic tusk
#

In the UK you can get the aerocool aero one eclipse for that price

#

also £140 for a 970 evo is completely unnecessary for a gaming system

#

You can get the 1tb sn550 in the uk for £85 right now

stoic island
#

eh

#

lemme see if there are better hmb drives around the price

#

I don't like the sn550

civic tusk
#

why

stoic island
#

iirc weird hmb implementation

civic tusk
#

sn550 is one of the better hmb drives

stoic island
#

I thought it didn't even have hmb for a while

civic tusk
#

Yeah it implements hmb as a slave cache for slc cache misses

stoic island
#

P1 is an option for 90gbp, although drive is meh

civic tusk
#

sn550 is a better drive than the p1 imo

stoic island
#

eh, they're similar in testing iirc

#

Rocket Q also an option at 95 gbp

civic tusk
#

Just not a fan of qlc drives tbh

stoic island
#

fair but an option

civic tusk
#

I just think it is hard to beat the value of that sn550 at £85

stoic island
#

I personally dislike the drive, so I'd personally grab P1 at 90gbp

#

looks like it was the small slc cache that isn't great with the sn550, but good performance

civic tusk
#

that doesn't matter for gaming

#

in any way shape or form

#

it's not like you doing heavy sustained load on the ssd while gaming

#

looks like the crucial p1 dies pretty easy there tbh

#

p2 is probably a closer comparison to performance there

#

crucial p1 there ends up being slower than a HDD

stoic island
#

fun

#

and average of 106MB/s is actually around HDD speeds lel

civic tusk
#

yeah really not a good drive imo

stoic island
#

decent nuff

civic tusk
#

depends on price and what else is available i guess

stoic island
#

also, they need to color code better lel

worn wave
#

Not when there's better SSDs for similar pricing usually

stoic island
#

can't tell which is SN500 or P34A60

#

keep thinking about p32a80 smh

obsidian delta
#

I'm also going to be using it for productivity, specifically I need a VM that I want to live on the SSD hence the large size

foggy bough
#

guys are the behringer bh470 good for 27.50 euros?

quasi snow
foggy bough
#

yeah ikr

mild axle
#

Hello

uncut pelican
#

Hello there

mild axle
#

hayo

worn lily
#

anyone have any recommendations for a motherboard for around $180-$190 US for a 5900x + 3080?

muted patio
#

You want 2 M.2 drives or just one?

worn lily
#

just one for now ig bc i already have an hdd

muted patio
#

That's basically the difference between B550 and x570

worn lily
#

hmm

muted patio
#

Let me rephrase

worn lily
#

im guessing b550 has the 2 drivers?

muted patio
#

Two M.2's at PCI-E 4.0

#

If you don't care about PCI-E 4.0 drives, B550 is fine

worn lily
#

I would try to get a 4.0 motherboard for future proofing

muted patio
#

Well, all the boards would be 4.0

worn lily
#

hm alright

#

but any specific motherboards to go with?

muted patio
#

It's just how many drives at 4.0

worn lily
#

ive been considering an asus rog strix b550-f

#

but i heard stuff about driver issues with the ethernet

muted patio
#

Hmmm, X570 is a bit out of that price range

#

So I'd say TUF B550 or the B550 Strix would be fine

#

Haven't heard of driver issues

#

Other than needing to get them from ASUS

worn lily
#

yeah i'd stick with asus motherborads but those reviews were from months ago

#

so im guessing asus fixed them

versed pine
#

hey I just built a PC and I ran into two problems. My first problem is that I cant get an image to display to my monitor. The GPU is in correctly and it isn't a faulty monitor or HDMI cable because I tested them both on a different PC and they are working fine. My second problem is that every time I try and turn it on the mouse/keyboard do not work they briefly light up then shut down. Any suggestions on either problem?

#

All the fans are working and the motherboard lights up if that helps narrow down the problem

half briar
#

Hopefully I can get my build going in a couple months because lacking the money now...

#

But I am a little nervous

versed pine
#

Ive only built two so far and was nervous both times as well, first build went fine and got it up in like 4 - 5 hours but the one I am working on currently I can't figure out the problem

muted patio
half briar
#

I just think I will need someone to help me, like hands on but idk

versed pine
#

ryzen 5 3600 and msi b450 tomahawk max

half briar
#

Because of covid...

versed pine
#

I dont have to do a bios update do I? I thought the Max variant of that board comes with an updated bios

muted patio
#

Shouldn't have to no

mild axle
#

Hello There

half briar
#

Hellos universe

muted patio
half briar
#

I already got a few things from my old pc

mild axle
#

just to make sure, is the hdmi plugged in the GPU

#

and not the motherboard

versed pine
#

Ram is in correct dim slots and HDMI cable is hooked into gpu

muted patio
mild axle
#

good

mental steeple
#

b550-f is underwhelming at its price point

versed pine
#

Yes there was a red light when I booted it

uncut pelican
#

Hi

mild axle
#

hi rocco

half briar
#

I just need ram, motherboard,case , processor and thermal paste, spreader, idk about tools,and some other things like two monitors

uncut pelican
#

Hru

muted patio
#

Need to know

#

CPU, DRAM, VGA or BOOT

half briar
#

I already got one from my old pc

worn lily
versed pine
#

Let me hook it back up and double check, had to hook in my main PC to do some research

uncut pelican
#

My boot light is always on

#

Like bruh

mild axle
#

what ram SPECIFICALY do you have?

mental steeple
# worn lily what's the difference between them and the b550-f?

for the two aorus boards you're just spending less money for essentially the same quality of componentry being used on the strix b550-f, the a-pro is cheaper but is also completely fine for any zen 3 processor. motherboards dont directly affect performance

#

also please don't buy pcie gen 4 ssds thanks

#

go buy sk hynix p31 gold instead

worn lily
#

im def not buying gen 4 ssds

mental steeple
#

base

worn lily
#

i just want pcie 4.0 motherboard overall for future proofing

muted patio
#

That's pretty much any AMD chipset motherboard

worn lily
#

alright

mental steeple
mild axle
#

im also thinking of upgrading to an SSD

versed pine
#

DRAM @muted patio

worn lily
#

so what's the best motherboard for the rtx 3080 and 5900x overall for 180-190 pricepoint

versed pine
#

Thats the light thats currently red on the rightside of mobo

worn lily
#

is it just any b550 motherboard i can get?

muted patio
#

Double check

half briar
#

is it ok to show a screenshot of my cart?

muted patio
#

Also check that it's fully seated

half briar
#

for my build

mental steeple
versed pine
#

should I shut pc off or can I take ram off and reslot it

#

while its on

muted patio
#

Never plug anything with the power on lol

versed pine
#

okay

half briar
#

never a good idea to work on a pc while it on

#

many of things can happen to the pc and yourself

mild axle
#

like having a fry up

muted patio
half briar
#

yep

mental steeple
half briar
#

or you the one getting fryed

#

well up to you

worn lily
mental steeple
half briar
#

also depends on your build

mental steeple
muted patio
#

5-12 VDC ain't gonna hurt you

mild axle
#

also make sure it has a click. according to Linus "it sounds wrong but its right"

muted patio
#

Sometimes a crunchy click

worn lily
#

ah okay thanks

half briar
#

i know power weird sometimes

#

lol

versed pine
#

ram was in a2 and b2 slots

mild axle
#

ive also never actually built a pc

versed pine
#

i reseated them and ima try and see if it works

mild axle
#

ye

muted patio
#

if it doesn't work, try just one stick in A2

mental steeple
half briar
#

XD

muted patio
#

I used to work on 300kv equipment. High voltage does really weird things

mild axle
#

what is it like building a pc|?

#

300,000 Volts Wow

muted patio
#

yes

mild axle
#

what current

muted patio
#

Depends, anywhere from 0.5mA to 10 mA, maybe more

mild axle
#

sorta low

muted patio
#

Xray machines

half briar
#

shesh

mild axle
#

ah i see

jagged ember
#

you don't really want high tube voltage ig

mild axle
#

do you rekon i could OC my fx to infinity with that 🙂

#

loo

muted patio
#

incorrect

mild axle
#

lol

muted patio
#

You DO want high tube voltage

jagged ember
#

but that increases patient dose

muted patio
#

you DON'T want high tube current

#

It wasn't for people

mild axle
#

ye

jagged ember
#

unless you increase external filtering