building-and-recc-chat

[wanton cliff]

cant wait for second generation RTX and third generation DLSS

yeah

id be stupid not to

[fossil halo]

mega chad moves

tru

[wanton cliff]

Vision OC

[fossil halo]

SHIET

thats like the best one

[balmy patio]

dang

[wanton cliff]

no lol

[lone trellis]

is cyber power good

[fossil halo]

well

aesthetics wise

[wanton cliff]

no prebuilt company is good

[fossil halo]

my friend is sweating so hard

[balmy patio]

tbh they should make more white gpu's and mobos

[fossil halo]

to try and get the vision 3070

[wanton cliff]

best bet is the Shuffle

its how I got mine

[fossil halo]

really?

[wanton cliff]

the PSU that comes with it explodes tho

[fossil halo]

the shuffle is stupid asl

[wanton cliff]

so def get rid of that

I won it twice

first time I didnt have the money for it

[fossil halo]

really?

[wanton cliff]

second was yesterday (Vision OC)

[fossil halo]

actual lucky ass

how

i dont understand

i mean then again

even if i won i wouldnt have the money to buy it anyway

[grand orchid]

Thoughts on $350 for a 1070 FE?

Used

[muted patio]

Too much

[balmy patio]

tbh i'd only pay 250 max for one

might as well get a 2060 if you're willing to pay that much

or wait for the 3060

[grand orchid]

what about a 1080ti SC Black for 450?

[balmy patio]

3060ti is a better choice at that price point

[fossil halo]

1070 worth 200$

[fossil halo]

3060ti 450$

with tariffs

unless fe

which is impossible

[balmy patio]

exactly

[balmy patio]

what kinda graphics card are you looking for?

[wanton cliff]

werent FEs discontinued?

also 1080Ti is not worth it anymore

[fossil halo]

yea

old

[wanton cliff]

Great card for it's time

[sullen spoke]

used to be able to find 1080ti for under 200usd sad

[balmy patio]

dang

[wanton cliff]

thats worth it

$450 is not

[balmy patio]

^

[grand orchid]

Something to pair with my 8700K for my gf's build

For 1080p 144Hz gaming

[sullen spoke]

someone found watercooled 1080ti for 75usd few months ago xD

[balmy patio]

jus get like a 5600xt or 1660s

[grand orchid]

low-medium settings

wait

5600XT?

[balmy patio]

you can even get lucky and pick up a 3060 when it releases

[wanton cliff]

I kinda want to put a waterblock on my Vision OC

[balmy patio]

smh

[wanton cliff]

what PCB does it use?

[grand orchid]

How well will the 5600XT hold up for rust and siege and stuff?

[wanton cliff]

well

medium-high settings

[grand orchid]

144fps?

At competitive settings?

[wanton cliff]

yep

[balmy patio]

tbh i like to think of it as 1660s<5600xt≤2060

[wanton cliff]

2060 and 5600xt are both similar iirc

I think 5600 is slightly better

could be wrong

[balmy patio]

yeah they both have their own lil things that make each better than the other in some scenarios

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[grand orchid]

What about the 5500XT?

[balmy patio]

that's like 1650s kinda range

[wanton cliff]

different games require different GPU workloads

[balmy patio]

how much you willing to pay for the gpu?

[grand orchid]

How much would it be worth used?

[wanton cliff]

like $200

[grand orchid]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/255652202595779/

[rich helm]

200 or less

[grand orchid]

Gotcha

[balmy patio]

like, how much are you willing to pay for the gpu

[rich helm]

@grand orchid he says it is broken

[balmy patio]

cuz you can snag a 2080s on ebay for like 400-500 bucks and call it a day

[grand orchid]

wait wut?

[balmy patio]

about the same performance of a 3060ti and at about the same price as one

pretty neat ngl

[wanton cliff]

I would get 3060Ti at that point for RTX gen 2 and DLSS gen 3

[strong knoll]

something is def wrong with this card. wayyy to cheap

[balmy patio]

i see

well, in that case, it's worth waiting what the 3060 has to offer and see if you can snag one @grand orchid

[fossil halo]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2910107695869885/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

this looks worth it

[strong knoll]

link takes us to market place home page

[wanton cliff]

IDK if that one has flashback

[sullen spoke]

there is spomething wrong lol

[wanton cliff]

If it does, sure

otherwise I would go with B550 TUF

[strong knoll]

if ur talking about the button it does lol\

[pale gyro]

I'm looking at two motherboards to pair with a 5600X:
https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-wi-fi-model/
and
https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ELITE-WIFI-rev-1x#kf

Does anyone have suggestions or concerns with these boards?

[balmy patio]

aorus elite 😳

[wanton cliff]

B550 TUF

[pale gyro]

please elaborate

[viral ore]

theyre both fine, but the b550 tuf is well priced for what you get

[wanton cliff]

Aorus doesnt make great boards

[pale gyro]

They're both 209.99

[viral ore]

aorus elite is a great board

[runic oracle]

Aorus boards are fine

[viral ore]

the b550 v2 elite is well priced for what you get

[wanton cliff]

I have had bad experiences with them. They fail or are DOA more often than not for me.

[viral ore]

well, its just the opposite for me

sorry to say

but DOA just happens, and you got unlucky

[wanton cliff]

im usually unlucky

[viral ore]

so dont rule out an entire brand over something like this

[runic oracle]

My friend has had one for almost a year with no issues and I've had one since June with no issues either. It's probably just being unlucky.

[pale gyro]

The B550 is supposedly ready for Ryzen 3rd gen

Has anyone flashed it?

[wanton cliff]

first the DOAs, then the silicon lottery, then the dead 3070

I just am unlucky

[balmy patio]

smh

[wanton cliff]

3rd gen is Ryzen 3000

which has been out for more than a year

[pale gyro]

that's why I asked if anyone's flashed it for 5000 series

[runic oracle]

Both B550 and X570 are third gen Ryzen ready. They both need to be flashed. Some motherboards have a button on the motherboard to flash it so you don't a older CPU to do it

[wanton cliff]

like the TUF B550

[runic oracle]

Usually it'd be on retailers to flash the BIOS

[balmy patio]

well you don't need to flash it to use 3rd gen ryzen

you do for the 5600x and above

[pale gyro]

I'm using it with 5600x

[runic oracle]

yep

[pale gyro]

You recommend the TUF 550 instead of the two I linked?

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119313R

no wifi on this one tho

but its way cheaper to get this and an add on card

[pale gyro]

Ah I need wifi for the time being. Stupid apartment complex disabled the rooms ethernet ports

[viral ore]

then get a cheap wifi card for now

[runic oracle]

B550 boards with a Backflash button I've found are:

MSI:
MPG Carbon
Tomahawk

Gigabyte:
Aorus Pro
Aorus Elite
Aorus Master

ASUS:
ROG F and E
TUF

AsRock:
Taichi

[pale gyro]

DO you have a recommendation?

[runic oracle]

you could always get a board that has an onboard Wifi 6 adapter

[viral ore]

how long are you gonna be without ethernet?

[runic oracle]

I think the B550 Tuf has one

[balmy patio]

cheap generic wifi card will do for the time being

[runic oracle]

that too

[pale gyro]

Most likely a year

[viral ore]

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-wireless-network-Adapter-SoftAP/dp/B008IFXQFU

slap this in the top usb port of your machine

[balmy patio]

if want to save money jus get a huge snakey boi and run it from the router to ur room

[viral ore]

boom

[pale gyro]

thank you

The wireless router only has 1 input, no outputs

[viral ore]

you are in an apartment? i think thats just an access point, not a router

[pale gyro]

and the woman doesn't like the idea of a cable running from the bedroomto the office lol

[pale gyro]

this is true, words matter lol

[balmy patio]

woman moment tbh

smh

[pale gyro]

It techically is an access point

[viral ore]

oh, if you want a smaller case https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gam-b550m-plus-w/p/N82E16813119314

heres a smaller board with wifi

[pale gyro]

I'm using a Lian Li O11 Dynamic lol

[fossil halo]

yo guys

pls

help

[viral ore]

lmaooooo

in that case, do you want a good looking board??

[fossil halo]

zoom keeps crashing my computer

holy cow

[pale gyro]

Yes, that's sorta why I like the Asus 550

I bought the aorus

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-master/p/N82E16813145217

230

has a 50 dollar off promo code

[little osprey]

depends on price

its still good if u can get it for like

200 usd or around

[wanton cliff]

tfw your wifi goes out and you have no idea what people are talking about anymore

[little osprey]

but market is fooked so

[balmy patio]

do you have like, a game running in the background or sum

[pale gyro]

that is a pretty mobo

[wanton cliff]

read the rest of the convo, I said that already

[little osprey]

oh

my bad

[balmy patio]

smh

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-cry-reading-pepe-the-frog-sad-gif-17607942

[fossil halo]

no sir

like zoom just freezes

[wanton cliff]

[fossil halo]

i can still hear all audio

but all my applications just freeze

[wanton cliff]

you still got that GT 710?

[fossil halo]

yea im starting to think its the issue

[little osprey]

gt 710 ? 🤔

[wanton cliff]

obvi

[balmy patio]

gt 710 moment

[fossil halo]

am i going to have to oc my gpu for zoom calls?

[wanton cliff]

mb

[balmy patio]

what cpu do you have?

[fossil halo]

3700x

[wanton cliff]

rip

bottleneck city

[fossil halo]

fr

[little osprey]

bottleneck level 99 😂

[wanton cliff]

Long Night of Bottlenecks

Ardent Bottleneck

[little osprey]

god level of bottleneck 😂

[wanton cliff]

Forward Unto Bottlenecks

[little osprey]

god of bottleneck 😂

[balmy patio]

if only the 3700x came with an igpu

[fossil halo]

literally tho

[fossil halo]

omg

[wanton cliff]

In Bottlenecks Clad

[fossil halo]

would be better thabn gt 710 anyday

isnt vega better than intel grahpics

[wanton cliff]

Bottleneck's Chill

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[little osprey]

lol

[fossil halo]

i want myself some vega

[wanton cliff]

more Intel iGPUs exist tho

[fossil halo]

tru

[little osprey]

bottleneck symphony 😂

[fossil halo]

intel dgpu also exist 🤣

[wanton cliff]

existed*

[fossil halo]

exists

they just released

dg-1

[wanton cliff]

?

[fossil halo]

u didnt hear?

[wanton cliff]

Havent heard about this

[fossil halo]

look it up

[wanton cliff]

link it

[fossil halo]

aight

[balmy patio]

i thought that was only for laptops tho

[fossil halo]

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/9/21058422/intel-dg1-discrete-gpu-graphics-card-announcement-ces-2020

[wanton cliff]

Bottlenecks and Reconciliation

[fossil halo]

nope

they made desktops version

[wanton cliff]

The Bottleneck's Approach

[fossil halo]

only compatible with intel cpu tho

[balmy patio]

smh

[fossil halo]

KEK

[little osprey]

😂

[fossil halo]

rip

might actually be bc of gt 710

the zoom crash

[little osprey]

bottleneck forever

[fossil halo]

bc it goes 100% usage when someone is screensharing

[balmy patio]

hahaha

i wonder what happens when you start screensharing

[fossil halo]

works fine

screensharing is cpu based

when ur screensharing

[wanton cliff]

A Bottleneck Every Day

[fossil halo]

when ur seeing someone else's screenshare its gpu

like i can stream on discord of me playing games at 40 fps without losing fps

[little osprey]

lack of bottleneck xd

[fossil halo]

like i'd get 40 fps if i wasnt streaming

[wanton cliff]

Alls I got it a 10300H right now

its pretty bad

I do have a 1650Ti too

also pretty bad

[little osprey]

I won 3070 yesterday

[wanton cliff]

same

[little osprey]

time to change 1660s

[fossil halo]

better than 710

[little osprey]

lol

[wanton cliff]

literally any modern iGPU is better

just use a 3100 or 3200g or something for now

[little osprey]

intel uhd graphics are much better than 710 lol

[fossil halo]

i dont have 🤣

yea

ofc

[wanton cliff]

Then get one

[little osprey]

basically buy 10400 xd

160$ xd

[wanton cliff]

Needs to be socket AM4

he has an AM4 mobo

[little osprey]

oh crap

buy b460 board too 😂

[wanton cliff]

nah

Z490

[little osprey]

[balmy patio]

man how the tables have turned

[little osprey]

b460 for 80$ z490 for 160$ 🤔

[balmy patio]

amd wins it at high level gaming and intel at low level

[fossil halo]

it says this in reliability mointor

[wanton cliff]

rip

[balmy patio]

it's still cheaper getting 10400 + z490 than 3600 + b550

[wanton cliff]

rip in pickles

[fossil halo]

is that bc i cold killed it?

like i had to press and hold pwr button

[little osprey]

rip amd

[balmy patio]

ikr

[fossil halo]

tru

bc of shortage

[balmy patio]

and the 10600k is cheap rn so like 😳 it's time to stop being amd fanboy

[fossil halo]

3600 was like 14 last summer

[wanton cliff]

AMD CPUs are better, Intel tends to be cheaper board-wise

[fossil halo]

140$*

[little osprey]

i got 10600k for 229$

[fossil halo]

time to head over to china and get meself some gpu

[little osprey]

asus tuf z490 wifi for 200

[wanton cliff]

"My famery from China cry at how he handle product"

[balmy patio]

haha

[fossil halo]

LOL

oc's the sht out of it

makes it live for like

a month

before it just dies

[wanton cliff]

not even

OC it all the way up to 2 gigahertz

better than 3090s in SLI

[fossil halo]

LOL

[little osprey]

china foods

[balmy patio]

put like a 92 mm fan right next to its heatskink and jus destroy the heck out of its lifespan

[wanton cliff]

Japan food

[little osprey]

japan foods better than china trust me

[wanton cliff]

truth

[fossil halo]

mexico food , 💩 ,

[balmy patio]

billie eillish curry 😳 is the best ngl

[still roost]

Komm, süßer Tod#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

I been in china before I only ate potatoes for 2 week lmao

[fossil halo]

india food is pretty good but not if u eat it ever day for the last 14 years of your life

lmfao

sara

[balmy patio]

lol

[fossil halo]

got hit with the mee6

[wanton cliff]

kek

[fossil halo]

what did u want to say

lol

[wanton cliff]

talked about what mexican food does to your digestive system

[little osprey]

lol

[balmy patio]

i'm used to it tbh

[little osprey]

turkish foods best xd

[balmy patio]

my family is mexican so i can take it

[wanton cliff]

Japan food best

[fossil halo]

LOL

i mean indian food and mexican food have a lot of parallels

when u eat street food in india tho it basically gives you colon cancer for the next day

[balmy patio]

never tried japan food except ramen and sushi, and i'm not even sure they're japaneese food tbh

[fossil halo]

7 days*

[little osprey]

welcome to food channel 😂

[fossil halo]

lol i think ramen is vietnamese or thai

iirc

[wanton cliff]

Ramen and Sushi are both japanese, and both very good

[fossil halo]

really

bruh

i mean im veg so i cant eat half that stuff

[balmy patio]

vegan or vegetarian?

[little osprey]

lol

i dont like meat much tho

[wanton cliff]

can veg people eat fish?

[fossil halo]

vegan is going too far

im vegetarian

no lmfao

fish are not floating vegetables

[little osprey]

and no milk and egg either

[balmy patio]

smh

[frozen junco]

Interesting

[fossil halo]

hmmmmmmmm

[little osprey]

lol

[balmy patio]

the fist thing that came into my head when i saw that was among us lmao

[wanton cliff]

[fossil halo]

looks about right

[fossil halo]

literally the impostor 🤣

[frozen junco]

yes 2070 inb a 3070

[wanton cliff]

[little osprey]

🤔

[wanton cliff]

[fossil halo]

my headphones are coming today tho pogchamp

[wanton cliff]

[fossil halo]

done with these stupid earbuds

[wanton cliff]

[little osprey]

earbuds

[fossil halo]

fr

[balmy patio]

which ones?

[little osprey]

i cant wear earbuds

[fossil halo]

status cb-1

[wanton cliff]

Imagine not using $3000 Sennheiser headphones

[fossil halo]

i hate them too but my pc doesnt have speakers

[little osprey]

lol

[fossil halo]

im using the apple ones rn

[little osprey]

i using just 250$ sennheiser

[wanton cliff]

you... you have to plug in speakers

[fossil halo]

bc i lost my samsung ones

[fossil halo]

yea ik that

i didnt buy any

[balmy patio]

smh

[fossil halo]

didnt anticipate my headphones to break

one day

they just

did

[little osprey]

I got studio monitors for listening xd

[fossil halo]

same 🤣

[little osprey]

and studio headphones too

[balmy patio]

anticipate the unexpected smh

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[wanton cliff]

I want AMD headphones

[fossil halo]

||except the spanish inquisition||

cant expect that

[balmy patio]

amd should just make a car tbh

[wanton cliff]

no one expects the spanish inquisition

[little osprey]

they're best xd

[balmy patio]

or a toaster, sum home appliance

[fossil halo]

fr

[balmy patio]

powered by a 3200g

[fossil halo]

KEK

amd smart home?

[balmy patio]

nah, toaster pc to go with my kfc console

[fossil halo]

intel can stick to making dumpsters

[fossil halo]

LOL

[little osprey]

imagine nokia car xd

[fossil halo]

bro

nokia tank u mean

[little osprey]

lmao

3310 is a tank tho xd

[fossil halo]

nokia car

[wanton cliff]

ah, ghost ping

[little osprey]

😂

[fossil halo]

what is ghost ping

[wanton cliff]

literally unbreakable

[fossil halo]

fr

[balmy patio]

dang i just saw linus' video on the m1 macbook air

[wanton cliff]

when you get a ping but it doesnt exist

[uncut pelican]

So i got a question, if I got a new cpu would I have to apply thermal paste?

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[balmy patio]

yes ofc

[uncut pelican]

Thought so

[little osprey]

I liked m1 cpus honestly

[wanton cliff]

yes

[uncut pelican]

I might get a 5800x

[wanton cliff]

always reapply after putting on a cooler

[uncut pelican]

Gotcha ty

[wanton cliff]

what CPU do you have now

[uncut pelican]

Good thing that stuffs cheap

7 3700x

[wanton cliff]

not worth

[frozen junco]

I just thought of the only reason to get the 11900k....... to test cpu coolers

[wanton cliff]

5800x is not worth the upgrade

[little osprey]

[uncut pelican]

I have the opportunity to get it so ima just do it and ill give the 3700x to my friend

[fossil halo]

wow

imagine

[little osprey]

im gonna go straight to hell xd I sold my 1660s more than msrp to my friend 😂😂

[frozen junco]

yes yes you are

[balmy patio]

good friend you are

[fossil halo]

fr

i want myself a standing desk omg

[frozen junco]

but you cant get msrp right now

[wanton cliff]

I bought my 5700xt for $400, sold it for $700

[balmy patio]

woman moment

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff right straight to hell

😂

[uncut pelican]

Same like so bad

[wanton cliff]

tbf I didnt buy it with the intention to scalp

[uncut pelican]

Gell

[little osprey]

I gonna sell that 3070 and gonna buy 3080 tho lol 😂

[fossil halo]

especially for school

online school

[frozen junco]

I want a triple monitor stand

[uncut pelican]

Ok

[frozen junco]

only like 70 bucka

[balmy patio]

they offered her like big monis for it smh

[uncut pelican]

Cool

[wanton cliff]

I should probably order a DP-HDMI adapter

since 3070 only has 3 DP and 1 HDMI

[minor sluice]

the corsair LL 120mm rgb fans in white. I recently replaced the back fan with a single white one and omfg it took forever to find

[frozen junco]

yes 30 bucks a fan

[little osprey]

doesn't ur monitors have dp ?

[minor sluice]

i was trying to find them on offer up but no luck

[frozen junco]

you are not finding those 2nd hand

[wanton cliff]

I have 1 monitor, 2 27" TVs

[minor sluice]

not at all sadly

[little osprey]

rip

[frozen junco]

they make tvs that small

[wanton cliff]

they are from 2007

[little osprey]

you definitely need adapter 😂

[wanton cliff]

1080p, 30 hz

[little osprey]

rip

[wanton cliff]

one is samsung, the other is LG

[frozen junco]

rip

[wanton cliff]

Luckily I already have a 144hz 1440p monitor

[little osprey]

I got one Tv too xd 32inch 1080p 60hz at least 😂

[frozen junco]

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SB220Q-Ultra-Thin-Frame-Monitor/dp/B07CVL2D2S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=specter+22+inch+ips+monitor&qid=1612464887&sr=8-1 i would rather have this

[little osprey]

I using it to check color correction on tv screen lmao

[balmy patio]

when all you need is screen real estate, tv's are the way to go

[wanton cliff]

I am conversing with regulars

oh my

my superiority complex

[balmy patio]

shut

[fossil halo]

imagine

[balmy patio]

you are just a vip rookie

[fossil halo]

i have a 75hz 1080p monitor

[balmy patio]

we are elite rookies, cooler name ngl

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[wanton cliff]

imma be champion in 1k XP

[fossil halo]

wow

[wanton cliff]

check #ranks-and-levels

[balmy patio]

champion rookie

that's a cooler name

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-yas-very-yes-okay-alright-gif-16032440

[little osprey]

smapper 😂

[fossil halo]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-happy-dancing-gif-7419595

"deepfakes are very dangerous"

[wanton cliff]

yall should listen to Spotify with me

[balmy patio]

i don't have premium smh

[little osprey]

i got apple music rip

[wanton cliff]

smh my head

anyways im going to general

[balmy patio]

oh wait what

[wanton cliff]

ping me if there is anyone that actually needs anything

[balmy patio]

i thought this was general smh

[fossil halo]

meneither

LOL

this is just general

but

[little osprey]

lol

[fossil halo]

less people

[wanton cliff]

idiots

[uncut pelican]

Same

[little osprey]

apple music is perfect on phone

[fossil halo]

i use esound

chinese malware scuffed spotify premium

[little osprey]

lol

[little osprey]

just saying.... https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/us

i got one you can too

no one cares about the 5800x lol

[strong knoll]

yeah because people say it gets very hot

[little osprey]

damn

[wanton cliff]

its a WASTE OF SAND

[fossil halo]

lmfao

what

[wanton cliff]

the 5800x

its a waste of sand

[fossil halo]

how sand

[wanton cliff]

it all comes from sand

especially computer parts

[desert gulch]

yeah cause its got silicon in it

[visual dawn]

Hey Hey! question for ya'll. https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157981 can i use 4.0 graphics card or must it be 4.0 x16. what is the difference anyway?

[wanton cliff]

what CPU are you putting in there?

[visual dawn]

Intel i9 but I think I went overboard

[wanton cliff]

which I9?

[visual dawn]

i9-10900KF it's 3.7 GHz

[wanton cliff]

ok

[spice gust]

all i have is an i9 9700

[wanton cliff]

kinda overkill tbh

anyways

what exactly is your question?

[visual dawn]

I wanted to edit videos, have a computer that will laast me ten years or more and play video games too. I was wondering if the graphics card must be PCI 4.0x16 or will a PCI 4.0 work?

[wanton cliff]

any GPU will work

even a Geforce 3

most current GPU that will last you that long is a 3090

which is 4.0 compatible

[visual dawn]

would 3070 do in the meantime? at least for a few years to play a few games? I don't think 3090s are available until the scalping stops.

[wanton cliff]

3090s are easier to get than anything else

[desert gulch]

3070 good

idk for your work idea

[wanton cliff]

3070 only has 8gb G6, dont know if thats enough for your vidoes

[desert gulch]

not the best productivir5y one

yeah

[visual dawn]

i thought 3090 was better than 3070 and better than 3050?

[desert gulch]

if you had a rly low budget, 3060 is your best bet

[wanton cliff]

it is

[desert gulch]

3060 is a budget productivity one

decent vram

[wanton cliff]

but its easiest to get on account of the fact that no one wants to pay $1500 for a GPU that doesnt offer too much more performance than a 3080

[desert gulch]

yeah

has more vram

if thats your thing

[wanton cliff]

its a workstation card at heart

[desert gulch]

and you can bridge them

cant bridge a 3080

[visual dawn]

ooh

so what is the difference between PCI 4.0 and PCI 4.0x16?

[wanton cliff]

nothing

they are both the same thing

[visual dawn]

oh, i thought it changed something

[desert gulch]

x16 is just slot size right?

[visual dawn]

i think so

[wanton cliff]

16x is just the top slot on most mobos

there is also 8x and 4x, which are below

but 8x does basically the same as 16x

16x is just a little faster iirc

16x and 8x are physically the same size

[visual dawn]

ok

[wanton cliff]

only real difference is that the top one is steel reinforced

[visual dawn]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-RX-6800-XT-vs-GeForce-RTX-3070/4312vs4283 was given a link to this website. that thing I should mostly compare is the G3D mark?

steel enforced would distribute heat better?

[wanton cliff]

the 16gb would be good for video editing on the 6800 but 3070 is better for gaming (especially in higher resolutions)

[wanton cliff]

would support heavier graphics cards better

like a 3090

[visual dawn]

ooh, then someday I'll get a 3090 but for now just any 3070 should do? I was after the ones in the product shuffle

[wanton cliff]

that sounds like it will work

also 3070 has much better Ray Traced performance than the 6800

DX12 is simply not there yet

[visual dawn]

What is this ray traced performance? I keep hearing about it.

[fossil halo]

lol

ray tracing

is this technology

[wanton cliff]

Basically allows your computer to trace light paths in real time

[fossil halo]

that changes the way that light is refelcted and stuff in games

yea

[visual dawn]

I'm a newbie, I'm sorry. This is my first build and I'm trying to do it right.

[fossil halo]

more like real life basically

basically any card that has rtx in front should do just fine

LOL

[wanton cliff]

It has been compared to the ability of computers to compute 3D images in real time (as was seen on the Geforce 3)

[wanton cliff]

Looks at 2060

sure bud

[visual dawn]

so water would look like water? honestly I'd be happy to not have 7 fps in a game and to see the stuff I'm standing in before I die. (World of Warcraft).

[fossil halo]

i waas thinking of that

LOL

[fossil halo]

wow

isnt atht

isnt wow a pretty low spec game

[wanton cliff]

That would be up to graphical capability, but reflections would work on the water, yes.

[visual dawn]

yea, my currently computer is 6 year macbook pro. shelf bought.

[fossil halo]

KEK

bro

whats ur budget

[wanton cliff]

hush, bigga

[fossil halo]

@visual dawn

[visual dawn]

Just for the gpu, i was think around $1000. everything else is purchased and ready. waiting for mobo to show up.

[fossil halo]

WOW

OK

[wanton cliff]

Dont insult this uneducated man. Our goal is to teach him, not insult him for not knowing something

[fossil halo]

3080

[wanton cliff]

be tactful

[fossil halo]

easy case

ah ok

i am in the @fossil halo u see

[wanton cliff]

the RTX 3090 is $1500, but the 3080Ti (which is all but confirmed) is supposed to around $1k

[fossil halo]

yea

[wanton cliff]

with similar specs to the 3090

[visual dawn]

hahahaha, I'm not that level yet. I'm happy jsut to talk to someone about computers. this is the first chat room I found.

[fossil halo]

so i would suggest that you wait

[fossil halo]

this is the best chat room to talk about computers dont worry

also food

and basically anything

[wanton cliff]

you are thinking of #general-chat

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[visual dawn]

I wish I could wait. My laptop is having fits of not charging. I need a backup fast for school

[fossil halo]

alright sir

what cpu and motherboard we looking at here

[wanton cliff]

then get a 3080 and resell it when the 3080Ti comes out, I suppose

or a 3070

[fossil halo]

i mean if ur cpu has an igpu ur good

[wanton cliff]

actually wait, whats the total budget for the build?

[fossil halo]

he already has everything

except gpu

[wanton cliff]

he wants to game too

[fossil halo]

1000 budget for gpu

but i mean

ig

i game on a gt 710

[visual dawn]

The totaly budget was around $3k. I was going for $2k, but oops I didn't figure the gpu right.

[fossil halo]

kinda

[wanton cliff]

that may be enough for a 5900x and a 3070

but with that budget a $1000 GPU is too much

the rest would be unbalanced

[fossil halo]

@visual dawn what do u have already

like exact model names

[visual dawn]

sadly i don't have a pc parts picker for it. since my mobo is https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157981

[fossil halo]

thats ok

[visual dawn]

I'm on the waitlist for tomorrow.

[fossil halo]

what parts have you bought already tho

[wanton cliff]

I thought you didnt have spotify?

[fossil halo]

again lol

i have esound on mobile

i use spotify on pc

[wanton cliff]

oh ok

[fossil halo]

web player with an ad blocker

[visual dawn]

Intel i9 10900KF

[fossil halo]

ok

so thats no igpu sadge

[wanton cliff]

at that budget, an iGPU would be an insult

[fossil halo]

LOL

[wanton cliff]

to the rest of the computer

[fossil halo]

true

but like

gpu prices went

https://tenor.com/view/meme-run-race-fat-gas-gif-18322034

[wanton cliff]

still possible to get one at MSRP

[fossil halo]

very hard

very very hard

[visual dawn]

I'm trying for that shuffle, just signed up for all 7 of them.

[wanton cliff]

good idea

[fossil halo]

shuffle is poggers

[visual dawn]

oh boy... the memory cards made a weird sounds just as i flipped it over. that's scary! sounds like something rolling around in there. please be fastening nuts

[fossil halo]

@visual dawn join the evga queue

oh yea sara post in build pics

[visual dawn]

evga queue?

[fossil halo]

the new gpu

[fossil halo]

u can sign up for this queue

with evga

a sort of waitlist essentially

[wanton cliff]

?

[fossil halo]

like the vision

[visual dawn]

gladly!

[wanton cliff]

I literally bought it yesterday lol

[fossil halo]

alr ill get the link

didnt install yet?

[wanton cliff]

its coming from the California warehouse

[fossil halo]

oh

its not here yet

im styupid

[wanton cliff]

hasnt even gotten a tracking number yet

[visual dawn]

I think i need a motherboard to install things right? otherwise I'd gladly try

[wanton cliff]

Motherboard is the nervous system of your system

[visual dawn]

where is the queue at? I'll take a chance at it

[wanton cliff]

cant do much without it

[wanton cliff]

queue is months long at this point

I sent you a link to a Discord monitoring bot

[visual dawn]

thought so, but I had my hopes up since maybe I could put something together

snail monitor?

[wanton cliff]

monitoring bot

shows when GPUs come in stock and such

either donate or refer 5 people to get access to everything that isnt newegg

Amazon, B&H, Asus, Best Buy, etc

[visual dawn]

ooh ok

how do i do the reference link?

[wanton cliff]

simply invite 5 people

right click on the server and press the "invite people" button

[near garden]

So my monitor keeps going black while a game anyone know why that could be ?

[wanton cliff]

any kind of indicators whatsoever?

does it go permanently black or just for a split second?

[near garden]

For like 5 seconds

[visual dawn]

Thank you!

[wanton cliff]

odd

[wanton cliff]

you are welcome

[near garden]

I would game and my monitor goes black all of a sudden for 5 seconds and comes back to normal

[visual dawn]

Thank you, no i didn't install the memory cards yet. should i ask tech about it?

[wanton cliff]

memory card?

you mean RAM?

[visual dawn]

yes

[wanton cliff]

try reseating your GPU and checking drivers

the former with power off, of course

[visual dawn]

yes, there's definitely something crunching around in the box.

[near garden]

All the gpu drivers are up to date but how do I reset the gpu ?

[wanton cliff]

reseat*

[near garden]

Oh

[wanton cliff]

simply take it out and put it back in again

what GPU is it by the way?

[near garden]

I think I know what the problem is

[wanton cliff]

?

[visual dawn]

dust?

[near garden]

The part that secures the gpu fell of

Might be it I dunno

[wanton cliff]

huh

the retention bracket

I think someone else had that problem a little while ago

[near garden]

no

[visual dawn]

ooh soyour gpu possibly wiggling loose?

[near garden]

I’ll send a pic

[near garden]

Yeah

[wanton cliff]

huh

[near garden]

I don’t really mind tho it’s a old pc pre built and I’m probably going to build one soon the gpu is a rx 560 2gb witch sucks

[wanton cliff]

yeah

which*

[near garden]

Cyber power i don’t know the model

[wanton cliff]

no I mean

you spelled which wrong

I was correcting you

[near garden]

Oh haha my bad

[little osprey]

Have a 5800x or 11900k enough cpu power to run a 1440p 240hz monitor as the main and a 1080 75hz monitor as the second one (have a rtx 3090)

[wanton cliff]

the 3090 is going to be the main thing you are going to worry about in that case

and yes

that whole system is extremely powerful

[little osprey]

why

[wanton cliff]

what do you mean?

[little osprey]

the main thing i am going to worry about

[wanton cliff]

...is?

[near garden]

Oh btw is there anyway I can fix that one thing that fell off or should I just give up on it

[little osprey]

why is the 3090 the main thing i am going to worry about

[wanton cliff]

its broken off

the clasp doesnt work

[small osprey]

why only 1080 second

[wanton cliff]

because that is the GPU, which is the thing that controls the pixels on the screen. It is, however, the most powerful GPU you can buy

so you will be fine

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff Ah okay thanks

@small osprey Because it is my old monitor i used with my old laptop

[balmy patio]

mans went from a laptop to a 3090

dang

[little osprey]

It is a Aoc 24 inch one

[wanton cliff]

nice upgrade

[little osprey]

Thanks bruh

[balmy patio]

lmao

[little osprey]

I just worked a lil bit for my mom and dad and i got some money for my birthday so...

[wanton cliff]

"some"?

thats a lot of money

A 3090 alone is $1500 minimum

[little osprey]

Yeah sorry my fault

a lot

[balmy patio]

nah he jus used the couch duplication glitch and duplicated a bunch of dimes and nickels

[wanton cliff]

heh

[little osprey]

🤣

[balmy patio]

that's how he got enough money

[wanton cliff]

Khajit has wares if you have coin

[little osprey]

i got 2000 from my parents and 1200 from my birthday and i invested 200 myself

[wanton cliff]

cool

thats...

$3000

Maybe enough for a 3090 build???

well

$3400

but still

[near garden]

Anyone wanna rate the build ? Or give tips

[little osprey]

Yeah thats a lot

[near garden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KYmC9N

[little osprey]

Main goal now is to save money for the Alienware AW2721D

[wanton cliff]

definetly going to want to go with a 5900x, TUF B550, 32 gigs of RAM in quad channel at 3800mhz or more (preferably Crucial Ballistix), maybe a 3090, a P500a or something, and a 1200w PSU

also a EK 360mm AIO or something

[wanton cliff]

dont buy a prebuilt

they scam you

Especially Alienware

[little osprey]

no its a monitor

its a 1440p 240hz one

[wanton cliff]

Alienware monitors suck

there are other 1440p 240hz monitors

also with a 3090, you want a 4K 144hz monitor

[little osprey]

yeah the samsung g7 but i dont like curved

[little osprey]

Here in Germany these monitors cost 1300

[fossil halo]

lol mf really wanted to buy alienware

alienware = bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gllei-p0ork

indoctrination

[near garden]

Eh i was never a fan of Alienware to pricey and they suck on picking parts

[little osprey]

Yeah I got asked about that many times why i want an alienware

I mean the AW2721d has a good price and performance is also quite good.(Watched some Reviews about it)

[fossil halo]

ok

lets have a look

wait

i thought u meant a alienware pc

still im p sure that alienware monitors arent the best for the price

[little osprey]

Yeah i know but are not many options in this segment

[fossil halo]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-XG279Q-Compatible-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B083Z8JXW6/ref=sr_1_5?crid=QMA03LK73VIJ&dchild=1&keywords=240hz+1440p+gaming+monitor&qid=1612472430&sprefix=240hz+%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-5

same

as the last one

240hz

1440p

g sync

250$ less

1ms response

[little osprey]

Yeah its a good one thanks. But its 170hz though

Will see

[fossil halo]

oh mb

https://www.amazon.com/Omen-HP-27-Inch-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07SCX1JG2/ref=sr_1_6?crid=QMA03LK73VIJ&dchild=1&keywords=240hz+1440p+gaming+monitor&qid=1612472504&sprefix=240hz+%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-6

then this

[little osprey]

I just saw it too but it has a TN panel

[fossil halo]

true

[little osprey]

the colour reproduction is bad

[fossil halo]

idk i feel like 850 for a 240hz 1440p monitor is a bit steep

but like if u got the money go right for it

wait

bro

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-27-inch-Odyssey-G7-Monitor/dp/B088HJ4VQK/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2FV5AZ7TIR1ZI&dchild=1&keywords=samsung+gaming+monitor+240hz&qid=1612472653&sprefix=samsung+gaming+%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-4

this

its a samsung panel too

idk u prob did more research than me

just 850 is big moni

u can get like

a

3080 with that much

[muted patio]

That's really steep. I only paid 300 for my Dell

[fossil halo]

fr

||alienware is dell but ok||

lol semantics funni

[wanton cliff]

Dell is better than alienware

imo

they are technically separate companies

also AyyMD is better than Shintel and NoVideo

[balmy patio]

don't know what you said but i am inclined to agree

[fossil halo]

LOL

yes

AyyyMD

inteloser

[wanton cliff]

*Shintel

[fossil halo]

ah yes

[wanton cliff]

and NoVideo

[fossil halo]

ah yes

gigabot

assus

or ayyysus

depends on what u like

[wanton cliff]

both of which make cards and board for AMD

[fossil halo]

ah yes

gigabot is bot tho

[wanton cliff]

also Asus is good

[fossil halo]

yea

ayyyysusnotsus

[wanton cliff]

bigga, join

oh wait

you dont have premium

nvm

[fossil halo]

LOL YEA

oops caps

not sure if google buggin but...

[little osprey]

It‘s curved Bro. I dont like curved Monitors. They distract me

[fossil halo]

aight ig

i mean

its down to preference then

but like i was gonna start premium

spotify*

[balmy patio]

smh

[fossil halo]

like a family plan with my friends irl

its actually not bad family plan

its like 2.50 per person a month

not bad at all imo

but then covid happened and then the word irl is just gone

[balmy patio]

smh

it be like that sometimes

[fossil halo]

fr

[mental steeple]

A lot more complicated then that.

And a very inaccurate statement if we actually start pitting some drives against eachother...

[spice gust]

naw i think its a perfect statement

[mental steeple]

lol well it's a wrong statement.

There are a fair few dramless drives which outperform other drives which do have a dedicated dram cache.

There are a lot of unique ways SSD manufactures can approach cache levelling at.

[spice gust]

just tell the cache no u and problem solved

[mental steeple]

All SSDs have cache lol

[spice gust]

no u

[mental steeple]

okey dokey

[spice gust]

problem solved

[sonic pasture]

how much should i pay for a 3060 ti

[balmy patio]

400-500 bucks

prob 500 bucks in the future

[sonic pasture]

ok

[spice gust]

just steal it

[sonic pasture]

uh no thanks

[balmy patio]

haha i remember a group of dudes stealing 3090's from msi's factory or sum

[sonic pasture]

is 515 to much or should i wait for it to lower in price

[balmy patio]

for what card?

[sonic pasture]

3060 ti

[balmy patio]

which one

[little osprey]

SSDs like that are rare cases

and i don't think you're gonna find many if at all at a 60-100$ price t ag

500-1000gb

[sharp blade]

When a x570 board has not the bios for 5000 cpu. Can i just put my r5 3600 in it and update to bios?

[little osprey]

yes

[sharp blade]

k

[mental steeple]

There's lots of them.

In fact, that's the price point these drives regularly reside in..

refer to my poop SSD guide and all of those in the budget NVME category

[grand orchid]

hey ya'll

[little osprey]

SN550 is not beating a mp34 and MP33 is supposed to be worse?

P2 is ehhh

[grand orchid]

I was wondering if it would be a better idea to use H.264 to stream instead of NVENC so as to use my 5600x and reduce the strain on my 1080?

[mental steeple]

Why are you surprised that the SN550 doesn't beat the mp34? They are in different price categories.

Mp34 goes into mid end.

[little osprey]

Mp34 is 60-110$

[mental steeple]

And they are completely fine for general consumers.

[mental steeple]

SN550 isn't very relevant in the US market

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BJF48d/mushkin-enhanced-helix-l-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mknssdhl1tb-d8 This however is

And gamers aren't going to notice the difference between an MP34 and a helix-L

And both drives will outlast their useful lifespan to the user.

and if you're going to buy an MP34 right now buy a pilot-E instead because it's $107 😎

[little osprey]

Thats in the same tier as an mp33

[mental steeple]

and...?

[spice gust]

mp3

[mental steeple]

I never said it wasn't?

[little osprey]

mp34 still beats the helix

[mental steeple]

Yep.

[little osprey]

For nearly identical price?

[mental steeple]

"Nearly identical price"

ok

$23 for no tangible gain depending on use case 🤷

[little osprey]

You realize yours is on sale right?

[mental steeple]

Do sales not count?

[little osprey]

if you fairly compare them its a 10$ difference?

[mental steeple]

The relevance of a drive is always based on its price in the moment.

Not on MSRP.

[mental steeple]

Helix-L and silicon power a60 generally sit $90-95.

[little osprey]

i would still much rather pay 20$ more for a better drive

[mental steeple]

Sure.

🤷 depending on what you're doing it wont make a difference at all

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8 This would be preferable to the mp34 though.

While costing less.

[little osprey]

7$ price difference

[cerulean trellis]

@muted patio i got m speaker

my

?

[mental steeple]

And it's essentially better lol

[spice gust]

thats $7 you can use on games

[mental steeple]

This one isn't dramless though, it's SM2262EN

So it's toe to toe with E12 based drives like the MP34