building-and-recc-chat

[lone trellis]

?

[fossil halo]

bc of gpu and cpu prices

especially if u on a budget

but i mean if u cant wait i can give u alist

[lone trellis]

can i have the list pls

[fossil halo]

but its gonna be dogwater compared to one u could make when prices were normal

[lone trellis]

idc

[fossil halo]

do u ned wifi/

?

[lone trellis]

no

wait like a wifi card

i have one already

[fossil halo]

oh ok pogchamp

[edgy orchid]

HI i need heko

help

[lone trellis]

?? what do yo uneed help with

[edgy orchid]

I havent built a pc before so I am a bit lost but I have a list

https://newegg.io/7d9fdc6

tips/ things I need to fix?

Is the graphics card worth it or should i wait for prices to drop

[fossil halo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XCR7dD

@lone trellis

[lone trellis]

well you can search for tutorials

[fossil halo]

perfect

[lone trellis]

but its really eaisy to build one

[fossil halo]

999.91

[lone trellis]

ok thank you

[fossil halo]

10400f+3060ti

ohohohohoh

[edgy orchid]

Ive been binging tutorials

[fossil halo]

scary monster

[edgy orchid]

yessir

[fossil halo]

there are a couple things

[balmy patio]

nah don't get a b460 mobo, you'll be capped at 2666mhz

[fossil halo]

1. use pcpartpicker.com for ur lists
2. u always want at elast one ssd in ur buld because booting off a hard drive is like jumping off a cliff into shark infested waters
3. 32 gb of ram is really a waste unless ur going to be doing heavy video editing

4. nzxt cases are garbage

5. 1070 for 700$ its worth like 200

[edgy orchid]

Yeah I do video editing

[fossil halo]

6. who actually buys windows

[edgy orchid]

loll

Okay thank you I needed that

[fossil halo]

7. last gen ryzen bad upgradeability

[edgy orchid]

Damn okay so restart

[fossil halo]

yea

whats ur budget

[edgy orchid]

2K

[fossil halo]

i can try and help you

oh ok

[edgy orchid]

But I want to be able and upgrade later

[fossil halo]

2k for jsut pc or 2k for whole setup

like pc monitor keeb mouse, audio etc

[edgy orchid]

whole thing and I want two monitors

lol

[fossil halo]

oh aight

scary omonster

are u gamer like do u need high refresh rate monitor

or is any old panel aight

[edgy orchid]

I want to game on it but I don't go crazy

[fossil halo]

aight so i think one 144hz and one 60hz should be fine

[edgy orchid]

Okay wait I have work but you are being so helpful are u around later

[fossil halo]

yea sure

ill make a list and send

then we can talk later

just ping me

[edgy orchid]

Saint

[fossil halo]

but dont make any final decisions until someone with a yellow name confirms it they are the big daddies

ill make a foundation

[balmy patio]

big daddies lmao

[fossil halo]

fr tho

(and mommies) like lili

no sus tho

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fwdfP that's the best i can do at 1k

[balmy patio]

sus 😳

[fossil halo]

oh wait

guesswhatguyss

i missed a cpu cooler

[balmy patio]

it's fine

[fossil halo]

might push the price a bit over 1000

[small osprey]

downgrade the mobo

[balmy patio]

stock cooler is the best bruh

[fossil halo]

intel stock cooler is [EXPLETIVE DELETED]

done sara style

[small osprey]

no u forgot the “by wegg”

[fossil halo]

right

[small osprey]

intel stock cooler op

[balmy patio]

^

it wouldn't hurt spending 20 bucks on a gammax 400 tho

[small osprey]

^

[ivory juniper]

guys i need help

iim building a list for pc parts for a friend and im getting this warning but i have no clue what it means

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wC7Qgt

[small osprey]

uhhhhh

wtf is that list

why do u have a $500 mobo

@ivory juniper

[ivory juniper]

i had someone else do research and said thats good lmso

and im not to sure about it either

atx

[balmy patio]

not for 500 bucks tho

[small osprey]

uh who said thats good

[ivory juniper]

its not actually its like 250 on amozon

[small osprey]

anyways

whats the budget

what use

[ivory juniper]

he said doesnt matter i made it 2k

game and work so all around

[small osprey]

doesnt matter?

ok hold up

[fossil halo]

500 mobo

[balmy patio]

2k for the pc alone or with the monitor?

[ivory juniper]

bro its $250 on amazon

pc

i put the monitor i have in the lsit

list

[balmy patio]

for 250 you can get a better mobo

[small osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3vPZHz

way way way better for 2k

[little osprey]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tMzQgt Im not buying a gpu yet

[ivory juniper]

yea ima show him that list

thansk for the help @small osprey

[small osprey]

no problem

[little osprey]

Could u help me?

[ivory juniper]

[fossil halo]

@edgy orchid

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WDG9Bc

this is what i got

it is slightly above

the budget

but tweaks can be made

and the price for the gpu is estimated

u can get a 3070 anywhere from 650-800

[cyan rain]

you should get a better monitor

[fossil halo]

wdym

true actuallyu

i dont know much about monitors

i think my friend got the aoc 144hz one

[cyan rain]

if you're gonna have a 3070 get a better resolution

[fossil halo]

true

but i mean hes a video editor

and not much of a gamer

which is why 1080p 144hz and 3070

[balmy patio]

well a 3060ti will do then

[wanton cliff]

^^^

[balmy patio]

and a 3700x will prob do better then a 5600x in those types of scenarios

[wanton cliff]

also ^^^

the extra cores definetly help

most games dont use more than 6 cores but this aint about games

[balmy patio]

@edgy orchid do you think that you'll need 32gb of ram or are you fine w 16?

[edgy orchid]

I am fine with 165

oops 16

[little osprey]

Anyone know an affordable 3-1 DP multi monitor splitter

[balmy patio]

how much storage do you thing you'll need?

[edgy orchid]

I mean as much as possible but like 1TB

[stoic island]

prob 512gb ssd boot + 2tb hdd

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9TGwz that'll do for now

case is your option tbh, jus get sum that doesn't compromise airflow for aesthetics

[edgy orchid]

Thank you heh I also don't need headphones or a mouse and for the graphics card where the hell can I get that they sold out EVERYWHERE

[stoic island]

3700x weird choice

oh well, 10700k price went up a bit, I'd still take 10700k imo

[balmy patio]

how would a normal 10700 do?

[edgy orchid]

This is a foreign language

[stoic island]

I like -k Intel chips, because one day, zen 3 chips will come back in stock, and then you'll ask yourself "why didn't I wait to grab one of those", and you can tell yourself, for overclocking xD

but yea 10700+b460 will work

[muted patio]

B460 no fast ram tho

Or is it 2933?

[stoic island]

2933 for i7

b560 gonna be sweet

I'll make my edit to the list

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/Adaptermvp-Switcher-Splitter-Supports-Projector/dp/B07WZTKPM8/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=displayport+multi+monitor+splitter&qid=1612217574&s=electronics&sr=1-34 looking for something like this but for DP ports

[fossil halo]

um

so with graphics cards

anywhere

you have to do some hunting

[small osprey]

no oc

[fossil halo]

ill send to you in dm's how to go about doing so

[edgy orchid]

okay

[stoic island]

Gonna try something new for case today, @edgy orchid my edits: Shaved off 80$ from the other list without really compromising on performance
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dHN8mk

[little osprey]

dang, almost $1200 flat

[edgy orchid]

I do like the sound of this

[little osprey]

intel 10th gen is on sale at BB theres a good deal

[stoic island]

tbh MX410 mesh rgb might become my go-to budget-ish case from now on, looks real good on paper

4 rgb fans in there, with mesh, from a reasonable seller (because montech still sketch), for 66$ after shipping

[edgy orchid]

Yum

so the worst part about buying rn is the video card

[balmy patio]

i wonder what they skimped out on to make it cheap

[stoic island]

me?

3700x to 10700

and then cheaper ram

[balmy patio]

no, cougar

for the mx410

[stoic island]

Hm? I don't think they skimped out much, I'm guessing it's just using the same tooling as something else, and therefore can be made cheaper

[balmy patio]

ah i see

fair enough

[stoic island]

@balmy patio I'm going by what I know about mx330-g air, which is a 55$ case with 3 included fans with led, Demonmit built in it, and it was quite decent

[edgy orchid]

@stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dY94j2 does the tech dad have any additional comments before I spend all my money

[rich helm]

@stoic island why did you mark the 3060ti as 500 and not 400

[little osprey]

Cause rounded up, the 3060ti is 500

[rich helm]

What do you mean

The founders is 400 flat

[stoic island]

Well, on the peripherals, there are definitely better keyboards, I'd prob grab this for the main monitor:
https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg24vq-90lm0570-b011b0-23-6/p/N82E16824281027
and something like this for secondary
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-s22e450d-21-5-full-hd/p/N82E16824022315
@edgy orchid

@rich helm tariffs happened

[rich helm]

Even for the founders?

[stoic island]

Founders just haven't restocked since tariffs yet, so no correct price

[rich helm]

They did

[stoic island]

And yes, 99% chance founders price will go up

[rich helm]

It restocked two weeks ago on a Friday

[stoic island]

I haven't seen founders restock since tariffs

[rich helm]

I got one in cart

Still salty

[stoic island]

I'm pretty sure it'll change

Right now, we can basically take for granted it'll be closer to 500$

[rich helm]

All the others changed but nvidias didn’t even got the restock

[stoic island]

And I'd much rather be safe than sorry when it comes to budget allocation

[rich helm]

The restock was on 1/22/21

[stoic island]

where?

stock discords I use don't have FE restocks ig

But even if they did actually restock, their price will probably go up by the time the next restock comes

[little osprey]

Microcenter in Dallas has about 15 3060tis as of this morning

[stoic island]

@little osprey I don't think MC sells founder's?

Thought it was down to BB only

[little osprey]

It might've been aftermarket

[muted patio]

FE is Taiwan. Pretty sure tariff exempt.

[little osprey]

Idk

[muted patio]

Best buy is the only fe retailer.

[little osprey]

Nope, still tariffed

Let's hope not for much longer

[neat reef]

what do most people do to get windows 10 nowadays? pay the $130? the most seeded pirated one says theres trojans so im not bothering with pirating it at all

[stoic island]

Gonna try to stray from politics, but in guessing it'll be something that the current president will oppose relative to the last one

@muted patio and yea I think it was a blanket tariff on all imports, not just like China

[little osprey]

Ebay and hope

[neat reef]

ah so hoping the $30 keys work and dont stop working

[little osprey]

Nah, more like $3 keys and hope you actually recieve it

[neat reef]

oh lol

theres the kinguin site

[little osprey]

Tbh, I haven't heard about TOO many that don't receive it

[muted patio]

Mmmm desktop is down, give me a few

[little osprey]

about to get a rosewill thorv2 btw

[neat reef]

im not seeing any $3 ones on ebay

all around $30

[little osprey]

there used to be

[neat reef]

a big problem i read is that if its not OEM then they can give it to someone else and you lose it

or the real owner of the key when they activate it, yours deactivates

[potent portal]

I'd never spend more than $12-14 on a key, and never had a problem. If it's an OEM key make sure to get OEM copy of Windows.

[neat reef]

i cant find any cheaper than $30

[potent portal]

Some of those keys may have originally been Windows 7/8 but will still activate

[neat reef]

my only issue with the unactivated version is the watermark, which a CMD command got rid of, but pretty sure it comes back

i'll see how i handle this unactivated version, id rather put in a CMD command and restart my PC every few hours than spend any amount of money lol

but if i change my mind about that ill bite the bullet on the cheapest ones (probs $30)

[potent portal]

The price of keys has likely gone up for the same reasons as literally everything else in the computer, more people are buying it right now

[neat reef]

luckily software can be basically copy and pasted and not manufactered like products that have to high demand for the speed they can make them

[quaint cape]

So I have been having an issue where my pc randomly powers off and it blue screens sometimes and idk what to do about it. Anyone know how to fix it?

[stoic island]

@quaint cape too many possibilities, need more info, like stop codes to start off

[quaint cape]

Irql not less or equal

Something like that

[stoic island]

Go check event viewer

Any OC?

[muted patio]

Those are typically driver issues

Make sure they're all up to date

[main stone]

hey do we got any tech experts about PCs because im building one and im a noob and need some help if you can help plz dm me and ill you information and what i need help with and ill appreciate it a lot

[stoic island]

Just ask

Dms no fun

[little osprey]

JUT ASK

JUST*

[potent portal]

@quaint cape You can either send your error dump to someone that can analyze it (like me) or if you don't feel comfortable doing that you can install either Windbg or Whocrashed

[rich helm]

@stoic island It was on bestbuy

[quaint cape]

i think it will resolve itself when i buy a new ssd and transfer windows over there, because i will have to reinstall drivers anyway

[neat reef]

is 50-60 degrees for the CPU with just a twitch stream and steam open normal?

[little osprey]

Yep

[neat reef]

k cool

[little osprey]

Mine maxes at 57

While liquid cooled

[neat reef]

makes sense, mines air cooled and max is 66.4 on the "cpu package and 63 on the cpu ccd #1

oof it just went up to 71.4 max on the cpu package

averaging low 50s tho

well the averge is probs 57

[muted patio]

3600 with stock cooler?

yes

[neat reef]

yeh

[muted patio]

Yep, that's normal

[neat reef]

should i use the water cooler from my old PC? from 2012

[muted patio]

Mmmm

[neat reef]

not a well known brand

[muted patio]

If the water cooler is that old

I wouldn't

[neat reef]

k

[muted patio]

Evaporation can happen over time

With no way to check, it's hard to say

[neat reef]

i wonder what the water in there looks like

probs black

[muted patio]

Yeah, that's what I'd be afraid of

most of them aren't water but are propylene glycol

[sinful hornet]

@autumn aurora do you mean for your top and front fans to be exhausting and only the back as an intake?

[muted patio]

Whoa

Yeah, those are all backwards lol

[sinful hornet]

like, each one is the opposite of what it should be lul

wait, except for back

[muted patio]

No, back is wrong too

You want that exhaust

Only proper ones are the top, pulling air out of the case

[sinful hornet]

oh wait yes, big dum

thought it was exhaust for a sec

lmao, the back fan takes in air only for it to be sucked out by the top fan

[autumn aurora]

In my defense

It’s my first pc build

HEEELP

[muted patio]

Just flcip the front and back fans lol

[autumn aurora]

Didn’t understand a thing lol

I want a setting in which the radiator fans stay as they are

[muted patio]

Nay

That goes against all the good airflow rules

[autumn aurora]

Dang

I guess I will have to change them lol

[muted patio]

You're pulling hot air from inside the case through the rad lol

You want outside air through the rad

[potent portal]

If you do a front mount rad pulling air in, that's ideal, but a top mount rad is usually fine too.

[muted patio]

Yeah, could do taht

and keep fans the way the are

[final hound]

Hello Guys, I'm new here and was wondering if this Ram will work fine on an intel upgrade i9 10850k https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Item=N82E16820232861

I purchased it based on my Ryzen 9 3900x but I changed my mind and would like to upgrade to an intel system now

Shall I consider the Trident Z Neo or go for the Trident Z RGB the normal one for a safe spot? keeping in mind that there are both the same price
https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906?Description=G.Skill TridentZ RGB Series 3600&cm_re=G.Skill_TridentZ RGB Series 3600-_-20-232-906-_-Product

[muted patio]

But the front fans no matter what will be facing away from you

[autumn aurora]

I tried top rad configuration but the pump tube was kind of bothering the front panel

As in pushing the panel

[potent portal]

Yeah, this would be a case of "general advice doesn't always apply to specific cases"

[autumn aurora]

So putting it in the side gave more space for the tubes

[muted patio]

my rad is top mounted exhaust, works fine

[potent portal]

Mine too. I never break 50C

[muted patio]

Well, I break that but I also push it hard lol

PBO is tweaked to the high side

[potent portal]

I've only got a 2700 non-X lol. Waiting for a 5600X/5700X

[autumn aurora]

So , I flip front and back fans and I’m good right ?

[potent portal]

Yeah, front intake, rear exhaust

[autumn aurora]

Thanks for the help !

[potent portal]

Otherwise your back fan is pulling hot air from the GPU

[autumn aurora]

Its my first build so it’s the trial and error one hahaha

I’m more of an expert on smartphone and tablet repair (android iOS) than pc building

[sinful hornet]

but y tho

lmao then deletes them

[autumn aurora]

Ok

[muted patio]

What is going on here

Discord gotta be glitched

[twilit salmon]

Yeah discord is breaking

[little osprey]

discord fine

[uncut pelican]

[main stone]

hey do we got any tech experts about PCs because im building one and im a noob and need some help if you can help ill give you information and what i need help with and ill appreciate it a lot

[muted patio]

Just ask your questions here

[uncut pelican]

@main stone whats the qusstion

[full atlas]

Well I’m back with another list. Old gpu, but it’s enough for me, and no ssd, but that will be first addition as soon as I save up for one . https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpGy9N

[oak jay]

Computer exited game and has now frozen should I be worried

[main stone]

@uncut pelican so I'm building a PC and what is better I'm confused for the first drive witch is better the 2tb M.2 NVMe or the 2tb standard SSD so I'm confused so if you know or anyone does plz text me or dm me

[quasi snow]

nvme is faster than sata ssds and are only a bit more expensive

[main stone]

okay thx @quasi snow

if anyone has any other tips for me plz text me im starting off and im a noob and i would really appreciate it i have no idea what to put in it so help would be much appreciated

[potent portal]

Make sure if you go the nvme route your motherboard supports M.2 PCIe mode

Or get a PCI slot card as an adapter

[bold glen]

is it somewhat normal to get blue frowny face screens when first building a computer?

[potent portal]

Yeah pretty common tbh. Usually something is loose.

Or too tight.

[bold glen]

ok

ive been having a lot of issues with my new pc

more than i hoped

[potent portal]

What error does it say on the blue screen?

[bold glen]

ill try to get another here then tell you

[potent portal]

Or you can download WhoCrashed and it'll tell you

[little osprey]

So I need an opinion on my build. This is my very first one & I’m not super knowledgeable on PCs so please don’t bully me lol

Ryzen 7 3700X
MSI 3070
MSI X470
CORSAIR Veng. 32GB (4x8)
Hyper 212 Air Cooled
650W PS

[gleaming quartz]

3070 on your first build, nice

but why do you have quad channel ram?

[little osprey]

I was gonna get a 2070 but my friends told me I should just spend a few hundred more for the 3070 lol

& there’s 4 slots, no? Dont you have to fill all 4?

[gleaming quartz]

no?

[little osprey]

O

So I just have extra RAM now? Lol

[gleaming quartz]

you can dual slot 2 16gb ram sticks for the same results

[little osprey]

Ohhh yeah, I just didn’t wanna spend like $250+ lol

[gleaming quartz]

I’m not sure the specifics on dual vs quad channel ram but I just found it kind of weird for a first build

[little osprey]

I found all 4 of the ones I have for like $120 from my cousin

[bold glen]

ok ill do that

[gleaming quartz]

tbh you could have gotten 2x 16gb ripjaws for cheaper

but that sounds pretty good nonetheless

[little osprey]

Oh

[muted patio]

What speed?

[little osprey]

Well

3200 I think?

[muted patio]

mmmm not bad

[little osprey]

You’re talking ab the hertz right

[muted patio]

ye

[little osprey]

Or whatever it is

Oh okay lol

[muted patio]

The deal is

4 sticks of ram on Ryzen is hard to overclock

[little osprey]

I’m still trying to learn everything lol

[muted patio]

Most of the time it's better to get two sticks of what you need so you have room to upgrade down the road

BUt it

[little osprey]

& I don’t think I’m going to oc rn

[muted patio]

it's fine

[little osprey]

I was told to get liquid cooling before oc

[gleaming quartz]

I don’t think you even could with your cooler tbh

[bold glen]

crash dump file: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP
This was probably caused by the following module: watchdog.sys (watchdog!WdLogEvent5_WdCriticalError+0xE0)
Bugcheck code: 0x119 (0x2, 0xFFFFFFFFC000000D, 0xFFFFE983DC237960, 0xFFFFCE08B4D722F0)
Error: VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR
file path: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\watchdog.sys
product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
company: Microsoft Corporation
description: Watchdog Driver
Bug check description: This indicates that the video scheduler has detected a fatal violation.
The crash took place in a Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.

this is what the who crashed tells me about me most recent crash

[muted patio]

clear and reinstall GPU drivers

[potent portal]

And pull the GPU out and reinstall it, could be loose

[gleaming quartz]

or you could try ctrl + shift + windows + b

it’ll just refresh your vram

[bold glen]

alright ill give it a try thank you

[little osprey]

Should I be good to run like 240 FPS on something like Apex or R6 Siege?

@gleaming quartz

[blazing aurora]

yes

[gleaming quartz]

yeah for sure

[little osprey]

Oh okay cool

[bold glen]

how do i uninstall the drivers for gpu

[blazing aurora]

3070 is very powerful and apex is not a demanding game

[muted patio]

DDU in safe mode

[blazing aurora]

r6 is also very optimized

[gleaming quartz]

I run 220 average on r6 with ultra 4K settings

[bold glen]

is it just as simple as deleting the thing in my folder?

[muted patio]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

No

[little osprey]

Oh okay bet

[bold glen]

ok

[blazing aurora]

wait really?

nice

[bold glen]

how do i put a pc in safe mode

[little osprey]

With what setup? For the 220

[gleaming quartz]

I don’t oc my gpu, I’m not actually sure how I get that high of an average

[little osprey]

Oh okay

[gleaming quartz]

maybe I’m just lucky on the silicon lottery

[little osprey]

So without an oc I should be good for 240 on High?

[gleaming quartz]

yeah

[little osprey]

Oh okay cool

[cursive wolf]

hi

[little osprey]

I don’t plan on playing something like cyberpunk so I hope I’m good for every other game I play

[gleaming quartz]

yeah you should be

I can play alyx at ultra fidelity 80 fps average

[little osprey]

As long as I don’t have to buy any new part anytime soon lol

Is valorant demanding in any way?

[gleaming quartz]

no

hell no

you can probably get around 300 average

[little osprey]

Lmao

[gleaming quartz]

I haven’t played the game but I’ve seen benchmarks on it

[little osprey]

All I really plan on playing anything other than those types of games tbh

Cs, Valorant, R6, Apex, Warzone

[gleaming quartz]

warzone might be an issue tho

I struggle to stay at 70 fps just because of how cpu dependent the game has become

so you’ll probably have the same results

(at least 70 fps with 4K)

[vernal urchin]

dang, warzone is cpu dependant?

[muted patio]

Kind of

[gleaming quartz]

no, but it has become very cpu heavy

[vernal urchin]

gotcha, what i meant to say lol, kinda glad I upgraded then

[gleaming quartz]

I kinda want to upgrade to a 5000 cpu but i also want to wait out the garbage market rn

[little osprey]

Even with the X470? I was told I shouldn’t have any CPU dependent problems. Is it that bad?

[gleaming quartz]

actually idk tbh

[vernal urchin]

I'm currently running a 10850k that i bought just before rocket lake was announced

but 5000 series has been tested to be faster

[muted patio]

Motherboards arent the source of a bottleneck

[vernal urchin]

just super expensive

[little osprey]

Oh

He said CPU dependent so I wasn’t sure

[vernal urchin]

I was asking if the game had really gotten more cpu heavy but that is beside the point

[gleaming quartz]

yeah it just lags to hell with ultra settings and stuff with 4K

just because of how unoptimized WZ is

[little osprey]

Is the difference between High & Ultra that significant?

[gleaming quartz]

prob not

[vernal urchin]

yeah, the highest i can probably run right now on warzone is 1440p ultra, 4k is a no go for my hardware

[little osprey]

I feel like I’m asking a bunch of stupid questions lmao

[gleaming quartz]

no it’s fine

ask away

[little osprey]

Gotta start somewhere I guess

[gleaming quartz]

yeah exactly

[muted patio]

No stupid questions

There is no such thing

[little osprey]

True

[muted patio]

let me rephrase that

The only stupid question is the one that you don't ask.

[little osprey]

I’m super excited for my GPU to come

[vernal urchin]

ooh, what did you get?

[little osprey]

3070

[gleaming quartz]

which one did you get?

gaming trio?

[little osprey]

Uhhhhh

[vernal urchin]

cries in unable to purchase

[little osprey]

It was the MSI compatible one

My tech friend linked it to me a while back & said to buy it so I did lol

[gleaming quartz]

yeah alright

[little osprey]

I’ve been waiting for like two weeks now

[gleaming quartz]

the wait is worth it, trust me

[little osprey]

I sure hope so

[muted patio]

MSI compatible?

Any video card will work in any motherboard....there is no compatibility per se

[gleaming quartz]

I think he means the msi rgb software

[little osprey]

Well, the one that “ talks “ with my mobo the best

[muted patio]

Ah

[little osprey]

Of however he said it

I’m not sure lol

[gleaming quartz]

msi dragon center?

[muted patio]

If RGB, it makes sense

[vernal urchin]

yeah, rgb software is really picky

[muted patio]

If not RGB, it makes no sense

[little osprey]

Idk lmao he just said since my mobo is MSI to get a MSI style GPU too

[muted patio]

OOF

Please don't listen to that next time

😉

[little osprey]

Did I do something bad lmao

[muted patio]

It's OK, not going to hurt anything

It's just innaccurate

[gleaming quartz]

msi mobos are awesome but their gpus are questionable

[muted patio]

I dislike their BIOS with extreme prejudice

[gleaming quartz]

which is why I have an msi gpu

[vernal urchin]

I used to have an msi mobo, the VRMs ran at like 90

and that wasnt even under load

[gleaming quartz]

the msi bios runs at like 2 fps lol

[muted patio]

It's not that, it's the layout

Where they put some things in there is beyond questionable

[potent portal]

Was that a X570 MSI board? That was a real problem for that line

[little osprey]

I’m so lost

[muted patio]

It's ok, just watch and learn

[vernal urchin]

x470 gaming pro carbon, But it was also holding a 2700 at 4.15 ghz so its understandable

[potent portal]

4.15 all core? Got mine beat by a tick lol

[vernal urchin]

used to lol, I've gone to intel since then

[gleaming quartz]

I don’t like the whole “ez mode” and advanced thing they have in their bios, it’s so dumb

[muted patio]

All boards do that now TBH

[little osprey]

What’s the Quadro RTX4000

[muted patio]

Part of the UEFI thing

[little osprey]

I just had an ad pop up for it

[muted patio]

Graphical design GPU, not for gaming

[little osprey]

Oh okay

[gleaming quartz]

I heard nvidia is making a mining gpu too

I’m pretty excited for that

[cursive wolf]

i want a 1008.56 USD gaming setup anyone help me

?

[little osprey]

That’s extremely specific

[cursive wolf]

yes i know

[gleaming quartz]

lol

alright I’m gonna head to bed gn

[vernal urchin]

you could probably save around 300 if you dont use corsair argb

[little osprey]

I was told logicalincrements.com was good for budget builds?

[cursive wolf]

i thought pc parts picker was

[little osprey]

That too, I think?

@muted patio

[muted patio]

Never heard of that

[little osprey]

That’s what I used to base my build around

I can’t send links in here can I?

[muted patio]

THeir suggested builds are ALL AMD

That's not good

Because the Intel 10400 will beat the AMD 3600 in games

FOr less money

[balmy patio]

^

[little osprey]

Ah okay

Should I have went intel Instead?

[muted patio]

IDK what you even have

[cursive wolf]

wow extremely offordable

RTX 2060
$320
R5 3600
$258
NH-U12S AM4
$60
GIGABYTE X570 UD
$153
16GB DDR4
$78
4TB
$100
1TB
$105
Corsair 650W (B)
$86
Lancool II
$90
Fuma
$60
ASUS X570-P
$156
6TB
$215
2TB
$240
EVGA 650W (G)
$109
P500A

1021 dollars

[little osprey]

Ryzen 7 3700X @muted patio

[muted patio]

Ah, that's a good one, I have that

I mean, the Intel 10400 will beat the 3600 in games by 10-15 FPS for less money

CPu is like $150

[rancid bronze]

Is R 5 5600x and 3060 ti combo good for $1,000?

[muted patio]

Yes

With some fast ram

3600 or 3800

[strong knoll]

^^

[rancid bronze]

What about 3200?

[little osprey]

Oh okay cool

[strong knoll]

Ryzen likes faster ram

[rancid bronze]

Oh okay

[muted patio]

Leaving performance on the table with 3200

Depending on the game, 5-10%

[rancid bronze]

So Where I be gettin the R 5 5600x and 3060 ti?

[strong knoll]

Huh?

[muted patio]

patience and hunting

[somber knot]

I'm questioning myself do i really want rgb so much i will pay extra lol

[muted patio]

No rgb is so clean.....

[earnest olive]

as someone who has an obscene amounts of rgb

blackout builds are classy

just depends on you

[muted patio]

Yup

RGb often costs performance

IE, dollars spent elsewhere

[earnest olive]

@muted patio did you see the only blackout build i've ever done?

[muted patio]

Don't think so

Build pics?

PS, my pump block lights up red. It's not really no RGB lol

[earnest olive]

small budget build but i like how it turned out

i didn't sacrifice any performance for rgb in my build

just paid extra to have both

[hexed flame]

that is nice

pretty

[muted patio]

So clean

[earnest olive]

it hurts me a little on the inside when people sacrifice a lot of performance to put corsair rgb everywhere

[muted patio]

yes, me too

[earnest olive]

i remember seeing a build where the guy was using an i5-9400 with integrated graphics but had $200 of corsair rgb fans

[muted patio]

I mean, if you have the budget for RGB go ahead

But if you're sacrficing a lower tier CPU or GPU for it, meh

[earnest olive]

😔

[light raft]

I wish there were more acrylic window options for PC cases

don't trust myself with glass at all

[upbeat lodge]

Umm

Soo

My motherboards was not dead it was my psu but it was putting out power sooo my psu coming on Wednesday and gpu ships this week I think

I will share my pc when my gpu comes

[little osprey]

i was on facebook marketplace

and i found a pc for 650 that had an rx 580, 3600, b450 d3sh, 3600 16gb, and a 600 psu

i got it down to 600 and thats my current build

:)

it came with a 500 gb ssd and nzxt h510

[earnest olive]

@light raft acrylic is a lot easier to scratch/damage than tempered glass

tempered glass is pretty strong

I've dropped a tempered glass panel 1ft with no damage

[sinful hornet]

corsair fans don't even look that good doe

hotspots galore

[light raft]

hit any of the cornerish areas then you get a million pieces

[balmy patio]

screw it in, boom it's over

[next kestrel]

acrylic is literally a magnet for dust

[light raft]

tempered glass any different?

[muted patio]

Dust no like tempered glass

Plastic is a dust magnet because of static electricity

[light raft]

my previous case had acrylic window, doesn't seem to have a dust problem

I agree with the scratches however...

[earnest olive]

i had a corsair carbide 275r with acrylic window

changed to a td500 mesh with thick tempered glass

never looking back

[jagged ember]

If you ignore the scratches

Acrylic is fine

Maybe if you never look at it

[hazy citrus]

anyone here available to help me out

with upgrading my pc

ive never replaced a mobo and a cpu before so its first time for me

[blazing pilot]

@stoic island i got 2 ssd instead

[blazing pilot]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hazy citrus]

hey can anyone help me out

and these are my shopping cart

what you guys think

[broken solstice]

It's pretty good

[hazy citrus]

i have a question though do i need to fresh install windows after installing the new mobo

or i can just plug my ssd in

and it will work

[worn wave]

Just plug it in

Are you using a Microsoft account?

[hazy citrus]

ya

[worn wave]

Alright then your license key should stick to your microsoft account

[hazy citrus]

another question

rgb are perma rainbow

or i can change the color lol

i really hate rainbow

lol

im more of a blue guy lol

[worn wave]

What brand of RGB device

[forest nexus]

what do yall think of my pc /

?

[worn wave]

Each company has their own software

[forest nexus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7yxXZZ

[hazy citrus]

oo

wtf

64 cores

I CAN RUN STAR CITIZEN NO PROBLEM LOL

[forest nexus]

lol

[hazy citrus]

danm 2k wats

this is a mother computer

[tight sorrel]

have one. love it. built like a tank. excellent features. good for cooling.

[hazy citrus]

lol

i cant wait

[tight sorrel]

you can control the lights through a button on the top of the chassis, or connect to an ARGB header on the mobo and control it through the mobo software

[little osprey]

what is your budget

[hazy citrus]

atleast 800

800-1k

do u wanna help me build lol

[uncut pelican]

Need a part list? @hazy citrus

[hazy citrus]

ya

i cant decide between intel or ryzen

can i tell u the parts i have before we build

basically the parts i wanna transfer over

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tkKqVc

[uncut pelican]

Oh yeah sure

[stoic island]

I got the swiss army knife, I'm prob good

[wicked frigate]

Hey can someone help me pick out an aio

[small osprey]

this is wrong

no one uses the thermal paste applicator

[little osprey]

who has a build for 20k dollars used for editing and gaming

[wicked frigate]

Your building an 20k?

[hexed prawn]

Hey everyone, I have an AsRock z97 extreme and I need to pick up some new ram. I run a lot of After Effects, Maya, etc. I am looking for four, eight gig sticks. So 32 gb total. I suck at shopping for this stuff and just need something good, that doesn't have me rendering for ever every time I change a keyframe...

[wicked frigate]

Crucial ballistix

That’s what I got

[muted patio]

It's DDR3 though

[hexed prawn]

I am pretty sure the z97 only supports ddr3

but this is where I was getting a lot of mixed messages from benchmark sites and such

some say I can use ddr4, others say I can't

[muted patio]

You can't

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[hexed prawn]

ahh, yea. I thought that was the case

which is why I am here lol

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio

When your free can u help me pick out an aio

[hexed prawn]

so I would usually just default to Corsair but I am having the hardest time finding anything that looks decent, and I can't seem to locate the approved ram spreadsheet usually provided by a mobo

[muted patio]

I assume you have a 4790k or something in there?

[hexed prawn]

yes

exactly

and a gtx 970 if that matters at the moment

(my machine is getting old )

[little osprey]

ddr3 1600mhz 🤔

[hexed prawn]

I don't think I am limited to 1600 am I?

I could have sworn my current ram was 2100 or sumthin

I do this like once every 4 years though so I don't remember

[forest nexus]

when is it normal to upgrade pc?

just wondering

[hexed prawn]

for me...lol...when I can afford it, or I absolutely have to

at which point I sell blood and pawn old vcr's

[forest nexus]

cool

[hexed prawn]

love the hat bro

[forest nexus]

lol

[muted patio]

Well, looking at DDR3 2400 ram

It's $130 for 32gb

[hexed prawn]

thats not bad

I can go higher if there is a better option

but I also know I can't make up for old gear with amazing ram

so on balance, I guess

whatever you can lead me to, I have to something about my memory. Pretty sure it is failing me

gotta do a memtest after this chat

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007611 600006145

Even a cheap I5 10400 build would run circles around that in multicore

[little osprey]

10400 is perfect cpu for that price

much better than older i7s xd

[hexed prawn]

maybe my vpn is messing with my search? but I don't see any 32gb for $130..what brand?>

[muted patio]

There are no 32 GB kits

Gotta buy 2 2x8 kits

[hexed prawn]

which ram were you looking at exactly?

I am not certain who is playing the mem game strong right now

[muted patio]

Well, whatever fits your budget

It doesn't really matter in the end

[hexed prawn]

it looks like besides the hyperx, which I am not going to spend $400 on ram lol, there is the ripjaw and sniper series

why do they even bother making such similar ram

[muted patio]

IMO, investing $130 into DDR3 on a 7 year old CPU isn't worth it. Especially for rendering like you are.

[hexed prawn]

this gives me thoughts

Is the gtx 970 still viable?

just wondering what I would have to do to get a major update on the machine-what could stay, and what needs to go

but if I am swapping out cpu's, I have to upgrade the mobo-like you said-7 year old parts in some places

[muted patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3CL7Yg

GTX 970 viable for games?

kinda

That 10400 would get you a 35% or more multi core speed boost

[little osprey]

u can start with upgrading cpu mobo ram

[hexed prawn]

well, I don't do so much gaming as I do rendering in AE and Maya

[little osprey]

10400 for 160$ b460 motherboard for 80-100 $ and 16gb ram for 70-80$

thats good start

4th gen to 10th gen lol

[hexed prawn]

yea lol

life is hard as a broke ass artist mane! xD

[muted patio]

I get it

Just not confident that more ram is going to solve your issues

[hexed prawn]

I bet I could donate bone marrow. I hear that gets a pretty penny on the black market xD

and you are prolly right

[muted patio]

How much ram do you have now?

[little osprey]

yeah 16gb ram is usually pretty enough

[hexed prawn]

just gonna have to bite the bullet

[muted patio]

Well, not for what they're doing

[hexed prawn]

16gb atm

[muted patio]

But the fact that it renders forever may not be a ram issue

If both CPU and ram are at 100%

[little osprey]

ae using gpu for rendering

[muted patio]

or even the disk

[hexed prawn]

I am seeing other signs of memory failure so I thought it would be a good first step

[muted patio]

Such as?

[little osprey]

and ram for playback

[hexed prawn]

the SSD is brand new

but I am getting web issues

where tabs crash, clients crash

not just one client, but all of them

things like that

well, it depends on if I am using cinema 4d or classic

[muted patio]

That could be anything from CPU heat, bad drivers, malware, or possibly ram yes

[hexed prawn]

the rendering and playback gets complicated lol

hmm, didn't consider cpu heat

I guess I could pop it out and check my paste

alright, well, you have all given me a lot to consider

I am gonna run memtest and hit the hay

thanks for the advice guys ❤️

[wicked frigate]

Can someone help me pick out an aio

[little osprey]

which cpu

[wanton cliff]

we have already helped you pick out an AIO a hundred times

[wicked frigate]

Umm it’s 5900x

Cause I change my cpu

@little osprey

[wanton cliff]

any EK or Arctic 360mm AIO

[wicked frigate]

Ek??

[little osprey]

hmm I'd go arctic freezer 2 280mm or 360mm 🤔

if you don't care about rgb much

[muted patio]

Yes, EK

[little osprey]

or deepcool castle 360

[muted patio]

the waterblock company

[little osprey]

im not sure what you need to look first when you look for aio xd

i just experienced that models xd

[muted patio]

How well it cools, just like an air cooler

EK and Arctic are top of the charts

[little osprey]

personally i like deepcool castle and corsairs

[quasi snow]

the lian li galahad is close to the ek and arctic ones as well with a bit higher of a pricepoint

[wanton cliff]

keep in mind he is building in an O11 as well

[wanton cliff]

for a 5900x I would go 360mm, especially in an O11 where watercooling and AIOs are the main thing to look at

[little osprey]

yeah ofc 360 is better

[proven granite]

So I have a ryzen 5 3600 build with stock cooler and 16 gigs of ram and I got a 600w psu really cheap on sale at best buy

Would I need to upgrade that if I got a 3060 or 3060ti?

[wanton cliff]

no

You wouldn't need to

[proven granite]

Alright

[wanton cliff]

but it would be a good idea to, just in case

[proven granite]

Cuz I built my pc on a tight budget

[wanton cliff]

Better to have something that you dont need than need something that you dont have

[proven granite]

Yeah

I will keep my eye out for sales then

[wanton cliff]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W5RSX99/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

idk what your budget is but this is really high quality, 750w

[proven granite]

I already built the pc with an rx 560 that has been handed through my friend group I am just looking to upgrade because it isn't as good as I would like my gpu to be

I built my pc with 450 bucks and a dream

[wanton cliff]

understandable

The PSU i recommended is pretty cheap rn

[proven granite]

Considering I built it in 2021 that didn't cost me much at all

Alright

The hard part is getting my hands on an rtx 3000 card

lol

[wanton cliff]

truth

[little osprey]

Guys I screwed down my m.2 but the m.2 doesn’t look straight

[wanton cliff]

if it boots correctly then you will be fine

if not, unscrew and then screw back in more straight

[restive nebula]

@fiery hill y tf did u need 15 case fans

[wanton cliff]

some cases just need 15 fans

what can we say

[proven granite]

Are they at least rgb?

[restive nebula]

yes

he bought 15 uni fansd

@proven granite

[proven granite]

At least they are rgb lol

Imagine having 15 beige colored fans

[restive nebula]

:0

me with my lancool II stock fans

[gleaming quartz]

how does this even work

lol

like is this counting cpu/psu/gpu fans?

[wanton cliff]

nah man just 15 case fans

sometimes you just need 15 case fans

[gleaming quartz]

[blazing pilot]

anyone

i need help

[stoic island]

wat

[blazing pilot]

proof that amd ryzen 9 5900x is better i9900k thing

i9

[pastel barn]

just google it lol

its on user benchmark website

[blazing pilot]

ok nvm i got the proof i needed

[balmy patio]

don't use user benchmark 😳

[pastel barn]

Why?

[blazing pilot]

it shows for a random i9 is beyyer

[stoic island]

@blazing pilot yes, look at GN Testing and coverage, or look at passmark comparison

[blazing pilot]

ok i got my proff

anywyas

[stoic island]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5900X-vs-Intel-i9-9900K/3870vs3334

Yes 5900x over 9900k btw

[blazing pilot]

10900k

is that better

[stoic island]

no

[pastel barn]

It is

[stoic island]

better than 9900k, not better enough than 5900x
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5900X-vs-Intel-i9-9900K-vs-Intel-i9-10900K/3870vs3334vs3730

[little osprey]

amd benchmark results

[pastel barn]

Make sure to buy a lot of RGB, it makes the system very fast

[sharp blade]

1 rgb = 5% better performance

[sinful hornet]

is rgb measured in units now?

how much rgb is "1"

[wanton cliff]

add an extra zero and you right

[blazing pilot]

wow

am mad

ish

[sharp blade]

That's why you go FX cpu and a gt 710

Then you have money for alot of rgb

My old pc had an fx 8300

And it had some temp issues

So my clock went from 3.9ghz to around 140mhz

Had it for almost 2 years

[balmy patio]

rgb software smh

[sinful hornet]

people needa learn that they can't type in build pics ;-;

[balmy patio]

unless you have a pic

[wanton cliff]

shoutout to that one FX CPU that went up to 8.7 ghz

[sharp blade]

XD

That poor cpu

[wanton cliff]

LN2 is nice

[sharp blade]

With stock cooler

[little osprey]

intel finally have new stock cooler lmao

on i7 10700 and i9 10900

non K ofc xd

[balmy patio]

didn't they have a black one for the 10700?

not sure about the 10900

[little osprey]

yeah the black one for both

looks better than old one but still

who needs stock cooler on i7 or i9 anyways 🤔

[wanton cliff]

its mATX

in other words

smol

@full atlas

[small heron]

Bruh

I had no idea you coyld just buy a 5xxx series cpu from amd

There all in stock on Amazon

😐

[wanton cliff]

yep

how did you get 10.5ghz on a 5950x?

wait nvm

your whole name is a troll

[hollow lily]

lmao

[gritty ruin]

Msi Z490 A pro a good Mobo for i5 10400f?

[blazing aurora]

no

too expensive for the 10400

b460 is fine

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rfkhTJ how’s this?

[ripe wedge]

bad ssd

you should get 3600mhz ram

970 evo or sn750 would be better

[full atlas]

Why would I get 3600mhz ram for a zen + system?

[ripe wedge]

I mean it would help a bit.

but if not that ram is fine

[full atlas]

If I got it to run that fast

[ripe wedge]

oh I see you got it for $45 then yeah its fine

but yeah id swap out that m.2

sn550 is bad

its dramless

[little osprey]

is this a good budget build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NzvhdD

[main stone]

guys for a cpu witch is better Ryzen 5 or corei5

[little osprey]

ryzen 5

[main stone]

okay thx

[little osprey]

wait which i5 vs which ryzen 5

[pastel barn]

get a better power supply if you're gonna oc

[little osprey]

its for a friend he doesnt want to

[pastel barn]

Its pretty good, but that gpu is too expensive (prolly cus of demand)

[little osprey]

would a 10100f be an ok replacement for the 3 3100 if the 3 3100 doesnt come back in stock

[balmy patio]

yes

i'm making a list with that chip rn

[pastel barn]

the 10100 would be okay, but I suggest putting on push notifications for when the 3 3100 comes back in stock

[balmy patio]

it's actually slightly better then the 3100 iirc

[long meteor]

can someone call to help me with my pc just dm me

[pastel barn]

@little osprey its only for gaming right?

[little osprey]

he wants to do very light streaming and recording

like just stream mc and geometry dash

[severe axle]

might be worth getting a 1650s or better

you can use nvenc with it

[pastel barn]

^

[little osprey]

oh yeah nvenc

isnt the 570 better value that the 1650 tho

[severe axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zxCRe-uOHo

[little osprey]

whats the tldr?

[severe axle]

1650s has higher fps in those games

[little osprey]

ok

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZwTDc this'll do @little osprey

[somber ferry]

guys

[little osprey]

ok thanks

[balmy patio]

i'll prolly get sum like a segotep gp for future upgrades, it's tier b psu, 600w and 50 bucks

[somber ferry]

I have gtx 1660 super

should I buy 3060 this month?

[balmy patio]

if you want to

[little osprey]

thats a pretty good epgrade path but tbh wait for 40 series

[somber ferry]

people keep telling me to wait 2 years for AMD

and 40 series

yeah

[little osprey]

as long as your on 1080p 1660 super is great

[balmy patio]

the 1660s is still a great card

[somber ferry]

1660 super is amazing

[little osprey]

i have a 1660 super actually

[somber ferry]

suprised it only came out in 2015

[little osprey]

does 60 fps 1080 high to max

[little osprey]

1660 super is 2019

[somber ferry]

my bad

I meant 1660

[balmy patio]

@somber ferry what does the rest of your system look like?

[little osprey]

yeah lol 16 series came out after 20 series

[somber ferry]

but I have super @little osprey

[little osprey]

1660 and 1660 ti came ou then few moths later the 1660 super came

[balmy patio]

if you have a 60hz monitor and planning on getting a 3060, your best bet is to upgrade your monitor first then the gpu

[somber ferry]

it was leaked long time ago

that is what I am refering to

[little osprey]

oh ok

[somber ferry]

I knew about 30 series in 2018

[main stone]

guys witch motherboard is better the ASRock A320MHDV or the Asus B450M Tuf Gaming

[somber ferry]

I was supposed to get 3090 because I can get it from this medical center

they have direct contact with NVIDIA

NVIDIA was only giving cards out to people who needed them

[balmy patio]

tbh b540m tuf gaming, what cpu are you pairing it with?

[somber ferry]

like medical centers for imaging

they ordered 2 3090s and a 3080

[main stone]

im pairing with rayzen 5

[balmy patio]

which ryzen 5

[main stone]

2600

[olive flume]

my friends brother got a 3090 but doesn't know what a 3090 is

[little osprey]

yeah because when 20 series came out what else would come out 26 series?

[somber ferry]

yes

of course

[little osprey]

no of course 30 series would be next