building-and-recc-chat

[hollow grail]

idk lol

i know im like 50 or smth

[uncut pelican]

:O 78

[hollow grail]

50th*

on leaderboard

[uncut pelican]

Gg

I'm like uhh 1000?

[ripe wedge]

meant like new, ofc used market is better

[hollow grail]

the 980ti bangs

is basically 1070ti

[calm dove]

4gb vram is not enough

[hollow grail]

6gb

[calm dove]

yeah

[shrewd charm]

anyone want to head down Tosche station to pick up some power converters. I think that 980ti droid is going to work out i'll transfer my application to the academy this year.

[muted sluice]

and a 2060

[zealous edge]

Anyone know of any cheap pre-built companies

[uncut pelican]

You can try nzxt prebuilts

[zealous edge]

I checked

[hollow grail]

redux

[calm dove]

@hollow grail you know some good speakers ?

budget 100-200 $

[hollow grail]

#peripherals-and-displays

theyre the sound people

[calm dove]

ok

[hollow grail]

i just do drives mostly

[calm dove]

thank you

[zealous edge]

Hmm ok

[junior crescent]

Can i stream with my cpu, the 5800x??

[uncut pelican]

yes

[calm dove]

yes

[ripe wedge]

yes

[hollow grail]

yes but ideally youd also have an nvidia gpu for nvenc encoding

[ripe wedge]

^

was about to type that

[hollow grail]

less weight on your cpu

[ripe wedge]

use obs to stream

OBS is an app

[junior crescent]

Cause i recently just got a 6800 xt and i heared the encoder is bad

[hollow grail]

if you're unfortunate enough to have amd trash then itll be a worse time

you heard right

[zealous edge]

Why don't hate on all other brads that you don't like?

First gigabyte

Now AMD

[hollow grail]

amd gpus just suck

sadly

for anything besides gaming

i hate amd and nvidia equally tho

actually i think i like amd more

[zealous edge]

Not rlly

[hollow grail]

yes rly

[zealous edge]

Last gen cards were honestly good

[hollow grail]

they sucked even more than this gen lol

[zealous edge]

Before

2060 super is bad

[ripe wedge]

2060 super is fine

[zealous edge]

2070 super is worse compared to the 5700xt

[zealous edge]

That's rendering

[hollow grail]

lul

i use gpus to render

[zealous edge]

Thing is

[hollow grail]

im saying amd is garbage at anything that isnt raw fps

if you disagree with that then ur actually just wrong sorry

[hazy sandal]

I play

pokemon

go

everyday

jk

[zealous edge]

I have a 5700xt and do it in 113

[hollow grail]

opencl?

[zealous edge]

Control

[hazy sandal]

what pcs do u guys have?

[zealous edge]

Er

Opencl

[hazy sandal]

or want to build

ooo

[hollow grail]

with those settings?

or are you just throwing random benches out there

[hazy sandal]

coding software?

[zealous edge]

Nah

What 5700xt was that test done with?

[hollow grail]

iirc all reference at stock clocks

for everything

[zealous edge]

Nice

[zealous edge]

Reference

Do you know how bad the 5700xt ref was??

Do you have any idea how bad that garbage was

Testing with amd ref is just idek.

All amd reference cards are complete garbage..

[hollow grail]

why cherrypick cards when nvidia's reference designs are functional

[zealous edge]

True

[hollow grail]

not a fair bench otherwise

[zealous edge]

Ik but

[hollow grail]

if you cherrypicked cards nvidia would just win even more

[zealous edge]

Only thing is

Nvidia FE cards are actually good

The gap is bigger between AMD ref and other AMD cards

However, not as big on the Nvidia side

[woven sinew]

e

[zealous edge]

5700xt ref

Vs 2080

Another one

With AMDs absolutely garbage ref card

[stoic island]

Confusing

@zealous edge tell the people that made that to make better charts

Go do what GN does

[sinful hornet]

wasnt the 5700xt mean to be compared to the 2070/2070 super in terms of the price?

[zealous edge]

Yes

[zealous edge]

Its confusing?

[stoic island]

Bro dunno about you but mobile the numbers are so small

[sinful hornet]

if thats the case then why are they comparing it to a 2080..?

[stoic island]

And I have to look at it sideways to see what it's measuring

[pliant lake]

small on desktop as well

[zealous edge]

Why not?

Lol?

[zealous edge]

Rlly?

Mb

Its with an S9+ idk

Lol

[sinful hornet]

because its not really a fair fight if one of the card is like 200$ more or whatever it is

[zealous edge]

But the 5700xt is still evening out with the 2080

How is that not fair?

[sinful hornet]

ok, that means its good

not bad

which is what you're saying is it not?

[zealous edge]

I'm saying the 5700xt is NOT a bad carf

As lili is claiming

[sinful hornet]

o

i dum

[zealous edge]

Productivity wise it can compare to a 2080.

And its bad?

[sinful hornet]

i think i see what you were talking about

[zealous edge]

They are neck and NECK

NECK AND NECK

[sinful hornet]

how it beats the 2080 even when the reference card is really bad

[zealous edge]

"Not good for productivity"

[sinful hornet]

well, a bad design

[zealous edge]

It only beats it in a few, but it's a 2080.. it costs more, they are neck and neck in mostly everything. Plus AMD ref cards are not good.

[sinful hornet]

yeye, i see what you mean now i thought you were talking about how the 5700xt was bad

but then i got confused cause the graphs you pasted showed the opposite lol

[zealous edge]

No lol

I have a 5700xt its awesome

[tepid wind]

hey

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W7FM2V

my budget is 300

is this good?

?

[little osprey]

What're you looking to do with it?

[tepid wind]

uh, just use for school

but everyone says prebuilts and laptops are cringe

so here i am a nerd building pc

[hollow grail]

no

[little osprey]

That would be a perfectly serviceable PC in 2006

[tepid wind]

whats the problem with it

[hollow grail]

is this a troll lol

[tepid wind]

no?

[little osprey]

@proven torrent very clean build

[tepid wind]

if its not good change it so it is good, just please under 300$

[little osprey]

core 2 duo...just no

get a xeon

[hollow grail]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-3040-i5-8GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-Win10-Pro-24-Inc-Screen-2GB-Vid-Card/233866036126

[little osprey]

or that.

[ripe wedge]

thats a bid one

[tepid wind]

but im not gonna be cool

because its a "prebuilt"

[little osprey]

ye, optiplex is best option if you budget is 300

[hollow grail]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-7050-i5-7500-3-40GHz-16GB-RAM-500-GB-NVMe-Samsung-970/203257052168

[little osprey]

or xeons

[ripe wedge]

thats actually a steal

[tepid wind]

did you guys realy fall for this joke lmao

anyways uh]

[ripe wedge]

id get that and throw it into a better case

[little osprey]

7th gen tho

[ripe wedge]

yea

its still better than lower end stuff

for that price not bad at all

[tepid wind]

can you guys make me a entry level amd pc? under 800$ USD

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/

[tepid wind]

thanks

🙂

[ripe wedge]

kek, sent all the builds

ill make one real quick @tepid wind or try

[tepid wind]

thanks bro

[little osprey]

Mid range AMD? Nothing too serious?

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3rLJ7P

[little osprey]

amd only?

[tepid wind]

i guess yea?

[hollow grail]

lmao dont he wasted 30 seconds of my time

[ripe wedge]

lol

too late

have a full build already

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZtPxNP

@tepid wind

[hollow grail]

[tepid wind]

tysm

[ripe wedge]

you can find a cheaper gpu elsewhere

like used

but just threw that in cuz it fit the budget and was decent

[tepid wind]

hmm

i could use a 550

w

[ripe wedge]

maybe but then it would be like $15 out of budget

cv550

[tepid wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QncCK3 better?

[hollow grail]

worse

[tepid wind]

brh

why

[hollow grail]

but whatever lul

[tepid wind]

whatever i edit its horiible to you

[hollow grail]

no u just got a worse gpu

[tepid wind]

its probably because youre an intel fanboy

why it worse

[hollow grail]

i hate both chip companies and am a girl

[ripe wedge]

go cv550

ill fix it

[tepid wind]

thanks

[hollow grail]

gpu has less vram and worse raw perf

[ripe wedge]

^^

also OOS

out of stock

[tepid wind]

its ok

id rather buy it when on sale

[ripe wedge]

wait lmao

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mQTwp2

[ripe wedge]

the gtx 1650 costs more and is also actual garbage

[tepid wind]

hmm

not sure about that

well remember im entry level

[ripe wedge]

wym

[hollow grail]

then go make ur own list

[tepid wind]

ive neveer had a personal computer

[ripe wedge]

well if you get a 1650 it will be poop

[hollow grail]

2 ppl are telling you the 580 is better

[tepid wind]

but idk if its good, thats why i ask you guys

[ripe wedge]

1650 super is better but the current pricing on them is dumb for what it is

[hollow grail]

yeah

[tepid wind]

ok fine ill go 580

[hollow grail]

id take the 580 just for vram tbh

[ripe wedge]

rx580 is an amazing 1080p gaming gpu

[tepid wind]

what is rx 580 comparable to

[ripe wedge]

I think its like a gtx 1660 iirc but let me look

[tepid wind]

👍

[hollow grail]

time to defrag 80tb

[tepid wind]

80,000 gb?

damn

[hollow grail]

yea lol

this jbod being rude

[tepid wind]

so this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mQTwp2

this is final, correct?

[hollow grail]

ehh thats fine ig

[ripe wedge]

yeah its not bad. ive used the case and the psu before and the ram

[tepid wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/600222758999162880/791063808125960232/image0-38-1.gif

time to order the parts!

lol jk i dont have 800+ yet

[ripe wedge]

well when will you have the money for it? because these parts wont stay at these prices

[little osprey]

Need an OS too

[ripe wedge]

when u have the money, come back here

[tepid wind]

oh yea lol

[ripe wedge]

you can run windows 10 without a license or use linux

[tepid wind]

ill probably get banned

[little osprey]

Didn't know that, do people still use Windows?

[tepid wind]

yea

people use windowss

[little osprey]

I was just going to tell him to install Gentoo

[tepid wind]

what linux?

[ripe wedge]

I use windows 10 lol, activated it for like $15

[little osprey]

What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

[tepid wind]

copy paste?

[ripe wedge]

I mean im on windows for windows exclusive games

also im working on a linux class rn lol

[tepid wind]

nice

hmmmm

i have idea

so basically my os is gonna be windows

[hollow grail]

A lamer Ubuntu-using script kiddie corporate shill professor was teaching a class on Mark Shuttleworth, known corporate spy and Linux ’programmer’.

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Shuttleworth and accept that he was the most highly-evolved programmer the world has ever known, even greater than Richard Stallman!”

At this moment, a brave, i3-using, bash scripting Poweruser who had over 1500 vertically-segmented Terminator windows and understood the necessity of systemd and fully supported all design decisions made by the Arch developers stood up and held up his sister’s netbook.

”What’s this computer doing, pinhead?”

The arrogant professor smirked quite graphically and smugly replied “It’s clearly using apt-get to update Ubuntu with all the latest software.”

”Wrong. It’s been 5,000 years since these packages were released. If it was actually installing the latest and best software, as you say… then it should be running Arch by now.”

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his Ubuntu phone and list of Amazon referral links. He stormed out of the room crying those shill corporate bloatware tears. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Robbie Williamson, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a GNOME Unity user. He wished so much that he had a some privacy to shield himself from embarrassment, but he himself had sent his search history to Canonical’s servers!

The students applauded and all installed Arch that day and accepted Aaron Griffin as their lord and savior. An eagle named “linux-ck” flew into the room and perched atop the American Flag and shed a tear on the chalkboard. The ArchWiki was read several times, and Judd Vinet himself showed up and enacted a rolling release system across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. His system experienced kernel panic and he was forced to reinstall Windows for all eternity.

[tepid wind]

what if i have a laptop with the activation code and its been used once?

[ripe wedge]

wont transfer over

[tepid wind]

but my brother used it and it worked for him

[little osprey]

Don't even touch Windows, literally just install any Linux distro and sleep soundly knowing you're using FOSS

[tepid wind]

well when the code hasnt been used

[little osprey]

Even Fedora

[tepid wind]

ehhh

[ripe wedge]

im learning redhat atm

[tepid wind]

i want to acces microsoft store

[little osprey]

Microsoft Store wants to access you

Intimately

[hollow grail]

cring

[little osprey]

Eternally

[tepid wind]

i want to use windows

you cant change my mind

[hollow grail]

just use manjaro

[little osprey]

^

[tepid wind]

wtf is manjaro

[hollow grail]

arch for pissbabies

[little osprey]

^

[tepid wind]

some mexican spam thing lol

?

jarabe tapatio

[hollow grail]

literally just garbage insecure arch

[tepid wind]

taco burrito

i dont use google

i use duck duck go

[ripe wedge]

idk sounds spook. id rather use el capitan MacOS

[hollow grail]

imagine not hosting your own searx server

[little osprey]

Why do you use ddg if you also want to use windows

[hollow grail]

!g

https://duckduckgo.com/bang

get ur mind blown

[tepid wind]

woahh

[tepid wind]

because google can sometimes lie

[muted patio]

Seriously?

[hollow grail]

they also allow you to search other sites and search engines

proxied through ddg to keep anonymous

[tepid wind]

i dont have a mom, i lost her in car accident

[muted patio]

PPL been banned for saying that just so you know

[hollow grail]

oh rly

[muted patio]

Just yesterday

[ripe wedge]

https://www.google.com/search?q=do+a+barrel+roll&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS923US923&oq=do+a+b&aqs=chrome.0.0i67j69i57j0i67i433j0i67i395l3j0i131i395i433j0i395l3.1451j1j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

this is better

[tepid wind]

i really dont like people joking about mums

[hollow grail]

fine vintage

[muted patio]

It wasn't me it was MIke

I'm being nice

You're wlecome

[tepid wind]

mums are important person in life

[hollow grail]

true

[tepid wind]

and joking bout them isnt making people happy nor mums are gonna be happy about it

so stop joking about mothers people

❤️ all mothers

[ripe wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-a-barrel-roll-the-show-down-gif-20002982

[tepid wind]

lol

[hollow grail]

that vid was great

and tru i love my moms

[tepid wind]

thank you everyone for helping me today

[hollow grail]

❤️

[tepid wind]

i gotta go

[ripe wedge]

np, next time if you want a list make sure u have the money

[tepid wind]

[spiral lake]

@uncut pelican what was the cost for the build?

[uncut pelican]

Around 2k with tax

and os

[ripe wedge]

lol

[short ruin]

yo guys i need help

@stoic island

@leaden dawn

@cursive wharf

I NEED HELP

please

[ripe wedge]

whats up?

you dont have to ping everyone

[cursive wharf]

Its easier to help if you just explain now instead of waiting for a response from the very people you ask. Thus one or more out of the thousands of people here can also help

[ripe wedge]

^

eventually someone will get to you

[muted patio]

Rule #1, just ask your question

[ripe wedge]

but whats your problem? @short ruin

[short ruin]

my pc doesn’t have a cpu fan and it’s saying it won’t boot because it has an error

[ripe wedge]

[short ruin]

i can get into the bios but i cant go past that

[muted patio]

AIO?

[short ruin]

yeah

[muted patio]

Plug your pump into either the CPU fan header or the AIO pump header

that will solve your problem

[ripe wedge]

^

[short ruin]

okay

[ripe wedge]

was typing that out but vintage was faster

[short ruin]

how do i do that though

[cursive wharf]

Also say what the error is, specifically

[blissful aspen]

its labeled near the cpu

[ripe wedge]

there is a header on your motherboard

usually top right

[muted patio]

The header labeled CPU-FAN, plug your AIO pump into that

[cursive wharf]

But anyways need to go back to do my stuff so probs will be unavailable for a bit

[ripe wedge]

aios can be plugged into fan headers

[muted patio]

Plug your 4 in AIO pump power

INto the CPU fan socket

or AIO pump socket

[small osprey]

why are tubes at bottom

[stoic island]

tubes buttom are the way

[ripe wedge]

thats how it should be

[short ruin]

it wouldn’t fit on the top

[stoic island]

@small osprey might be time to point to GN vid if you say otherwise

[small osprey]

what i thought the rad was supposed to be higher than block

but ok

[viral ore]

thats AIO and Chassis fan, not cpu btw

[stoic island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk

[muted patio]

Top of rad

[stoic island]

Yes, rad should be higher

tube should be lower

[muted patio]

Higher than block

Tubes don't matter if you watch the whole thing. Tubes can be at the top as long as the pump is lower

[ripe wedge]

kek well aio one should work, but yeah ur right. I just grabbed the top image on google

[stoic island]

@muted patio iirc it's the tubes that's supposed to be lower than the highest point everywhere

[muted patio]

Nay

Just the pump

so air doesn't get trapped in it

[stoic island]

I'll go check

[muted patio]

I already have lol

Multiple times

Because I had it wrong for a while

[ripe wedge]

I have my rad top mounted so I shouldnt have those issues at all. ive never heard gurgling lol

[small osprey]

so the rad should be higher than block

but tubes dont matter?

[muted patio]

This is a summary of GN's video lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwA7ygTJn0

If you find GN boring to listen to

[balmy patio]

^

watching gn makes me fall asleep smh

[muted patio]

SOmetimes he is too technical

And the message gets lost in the technicalities

[balmy patio]

lmao after he released the aio orientation vid, people were getting the wrong idea

[muted patio]

I did for a while

Then researched more

I top mount all of mine anyway because flooded pump

[strong knoll]

So the way @short ruin had it mounted is correct right?? From what I heard and seen

[muted patio]

It's fine

[balmy patio]

he did the optimal way of mounting it

[muted patio]

As long as the pump is below the highest point in the rad

Tubes or not

[short ruin]

it still says there’s a cpu fan error

[muted patio]

what motherboard

[short ruin]

asus b550-a gaming

[muted patio]

what aio

AIO power goes in the upper right, one labeled CPU_FAN NOT CPU_OPT

[short ruin]

coarsair h100i

[short ruin]

where?

[muted patio]

In the picture

very top by the ram

CPU_FAN

[short ruin]

oh you said upper right ok

i didn’t see that

[muted patio]

Well, it's the upper right lol

It's a 3 pin pump

So connected right it will stop that error

[short ruin]

okay thanks

i was putting it on the aio pump near the m.2 slot

[muted patio]

Can do that too, just connect AIO fans to the CPU fan header

It should have detected that though

[short ruin]

is there a way to download windows 10 for free?

[balmy patio]

yeah

[muted patio]

Yes

[stoic island]

@muted patio Alright, GN calls it sub-optimal, because the tubes are the highest point, air can sometimes get stuck and block intake/exhaust, and this might be the cause for noise
https://youtu.be/BbGomv195sk

[muted patio]

can download

[stoic island]

oops

didn't do the right link

one sec

here
https://youtu.be/BbGomv195sk?t=1119

[strong knoll]

Lol

[stoic island]

that has the right timestamp

[strong knoll]

Oh I thought u posted it again

[muted patio]

"sub optimal", IMO better than tubes at the bottom. Why? Because air can get trapped in the pump with the hoses at the bottom

[short ruin]

how do i download windows 10 for free

[balmy patio]

this https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

[regal sparrow]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[muted patio]

And you have to remove either pump or radiator to get it out

[short ruin]

okay

[stoic island]

uh

[ripe wedge]

you dont have to activate windows either

[balmy patio]

then you can use it for free or pay like a few bucks on ebay for a key

[ripe wedge]

you can use windows for free

[stoic island]

I think that's what steve is saying about tubes up

lemme just listen to this over again

[muted patio]

Think about it

Just use brain

WIth the tubes at the bottom

[regal sparrow]

You can get it for free

[muted patio]

the pump would have to force the air DOWN and back into the rad against all that water

[short ruin]

what do i do to download windows 10

[muted patio]

Won't happen

[muted patio]

And go in and right back out of the pump

WIth tubes at the bottom

[stoic island]

the section right after the timestamp in the vid, tubes up

[muted patio]

Once the air is in it ain't getting out until you remove something

[short ruin]

how do i download windows 10??

[strong knoll]

You have to download it onto a USB

[muted patio]

It doesn't though

[stoic island]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[short ruin]

yeah but how do i download it

[muted patio]

Think

All cars are tubes at the top

Air doesn't get stuck at the radiator hoses lol

[stoic island]

I don't look at cars lel

[hollow grail]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

[muted patio]

Same as AIO, literally

[regal sparrow]

You have to download it onto a USB with nothing in it or it will erase all un the USB recommended to use a 8gb USB (if I remember)

[short ruin]

YES BUT HOW DO I DOWNLOAD IT

[stoic island]

but it makes sense to me in terms of a closed system, being stuck in one end with the barbs vs the end where the inlet/outlet is for the pump

[hollow grail]

you need to burn it to a usb

[muted patio]

There's a reason there is a hose at the top and not both at the bottom

[short ruin]

IM ON THE PAGR

[hollow grail]

look at link

[balmy patio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpAPQH1RsI just watch this

[hollow grail]

stop typing in all caps lol

[strong knoll]

dude chill out

[hollow grail]

hurts my eyes

[short ruin]

y’all are saying the same thing over and over again

[muted patio]

it literally says download

[regal sparrow]

Oh thats right it’s only fo F series intels

[short ruin]

i’m on the link

[strong knoll]

Look on YouTube then

[ripe wedge]

ah yes burning plastic and metal

[short ruin]

yeah but the tool won’t work

[regal sparrow]

This dude doesn’t know how to read

[muted patio]

You have to run what you download

"To get started, you will first need to have a license to install Windows 10. You can then download and run the media creation tool. For more information on how to use the tool, see the instructions below."

[hollow grail]

what

[strong knoll]

Thought it was 16gb that u needed?

[balmy patio]

nah, it's at least 6gb iirc

or less, i don't remember

[hollow grail]

8gb minimum

[ripe wedge]

you dont need a license tho for windows 10

[strong knoll]

Ohhhh

[regal sparrow]

That is why I typed (8gd if I remember)

[hollow grail]

u need an active license on the pc youre burning the installer on

[ripe wedge]

really? dang shoot

didnt know that lol

[balmy patio]

same

[hollow grail]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-star-rainbowstreak-nbc-gif-4884642

[regal sparrow]

[hollow grail]

also for upgrade

needs license

[balmy patio]

wait i've got a friend who has a bunch of windows 7 keys, can i upgrade to windows 10 from that or nah

[hollow grail]

win7 keys activate 10

[balmy patio]

oh sweet

thx

[hollow grail]

no workaround required

literally install 10 and enter the win7 key

and bam

[ripe wedge]

ooga another thing I learned today

https://tenor.com/view/brain-brain-cells-unlock-your-brain-gif-14425366

[balmy patio]

storage woman just gave us her wisdom about windows

man if only they taught these things at school

society will be fixed and war will be over

[hollow grail]

true

[tender oriole]

@sweet breach That's finger prints and other stuff my cousin did to the panel not fog 😂

[hollow grail]

@acoustic dawn is that vue?

[junior crescent]

What the Msrp of Corsair Rgb Vengeance 16gb 3600mhz ram cause i can't seem to find it??

[ripe wedge]

like $80-100 I think

hmmm no clue why this is $200 almost

for 16gb of ram

[clever eagle]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/NBNnCz

Is it a good build

[muted patio]

Don't need that CPU cooler, the 10100 comes with one. If you want an aftermarket one for $20 that's better, get a Gammax400

If it will fit in your case

[ripe wedge]

id suggest 16gb of ram

[ripe wedge]

also its Australian money so gammax one might be like $30 there

[zealous edge]

Funny

[cerulean trellis]

@muted patio on the thing you sent me on amazon how many beeps are there and what do they mean like what does 2 beeps mean or 3.

[muted patio]

You're getting beeps?

[cerulean trellis]

No on the speaker

[muted patio]

Depends on the BIOS type but here's a cheat sheet https://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm

[small osprey]

how many beeps r u getting

[cerulean trellis]

I was just wondering what each beep means because I bought it

[regal sparrow]

LMAO

[cerulean trellis]

@muted patio how do I find out my bios type

[muted patio]

It'll be Phoenix most likely

[cerulean trellis]

Ok thx

[uncut pelican]

I bought those for 90 bucks. . .

[ripe wedge]

yeah pretty strange

[uncut pelican]

Like dang newegg

[ripe wedge]

that newegg is pricing it

[uncut pelican]

I bought it from newegg too

?

[balmy patio]

that looks like an ok price to me for rgb ram at those speeds

[mossy light]

I’m building my first computer, is this a good gpu?

[ripe wedge]

yes but not at that price

[meager citrus]

I need to reflash the bios on my Gigabye AB350N but i uhh.. don't have a second gen ryzen cpu around to update bios to be 3000 compatible.. any ideas? I'll edit if i figure it out before a response

[muted patio]

hmmm

The F40 BIOS is from last year

2019 ac tually

You sure you need to update it if it's a new purchase?

[meager citrus]

it's not a new purchase i got it used

[muted patio]

Do you know what BIOS is on it?

[meager citrus]

just sort of looking for ideas somewhere where i know theres people smarter than me

no idea what bios

probably one thats ready for ryzen 2000

[muted patio]

I mean, pop the CPU in and see what happens

Worst case is the CPU light comes on, then you'll know for sure

[meager citrus]

thats my issue it has no display

[muted patio]

best case is it works

[meager citrus]

the mobo isnt ryzen 3 compatible before the bios flash so i need a second gen to fix that

[muted patio]

Probably no debug led's either?

Nope, just checked

Well, you need a CPU to update the BIOS then for sure

[meager citrus]

thats my issue

i need a cpu

[muted patio]

Ok

[meager citrus]

like i said i dont have a second gen lying around atm

all i have in all my builds is ryzen 7 3700s lol

besides this ryzen 3 itx build

[muted patio]

Ya, was just checking to if any way around it

There isn't

So sell board or buy CPU lol

[meager citrus]

im trying to see in the manual

ill look to see if i still have the 2200g from a while ago in a drawer somewhere

[muted patio]

Don't need it

Can update without a CPU

[meager citrus]

how?

[muted patio]

Wrong channel lol

Sorry

[meager citrus]

dang lol

[zealous edge]

950 @ MSRP??

[meager citrus]

third party listings

[zealous edge]

I can see that its sold by the MSI store.

[meager citrus]

They can list it third party under the MSI name

[zealous edge]

Hmm

Right

[mossy light]

Yes it’s stupid on new egg it around 650 msrp but thier all sold out

[zealous edge]

I see.

Knew something was wrong

[ripe wedge]

yeah amazon third party trying to scam people

[meager citrus]

I CAN UPDATE THE BIOS

i found my 2200g sitting in one of my spare motherboards lmao

[balmy patio]

were you able to update with that

[meager citrus]

still reassembling '

it posts

i am happy

now to find where one of my ifixit bits floated away to

located

[meager citrus]

bios updates will need to be gradual like going from f20 to f25 to f30 then f40

[wheat geyser]

yo guys i’m getting ready to build my first pc and am looking for some advice

[karmic vale]

Careful with cpu

[wheat geyser]

i’m pretty sure a 650 w power supply will be enough for a 5600 and 3060ti with a bunch of fans and what not, but i’m second guessing myself

will it?

[muted patio]

Yes, if it's a quality one

[wheat geyser]

yeah it’s 80 plus gold

[muted patio]

That does not mean quality

[wheat geyser]

well it’s corsair

the rm series i think

[muted patio]

RM means quality

Gold and Brand name don't mean much TBH

[karmic vale]

Kinda wanna boost the server so I get pink name

[muted patio]

They all make good and bad power supplies

But Corsair RM is top notch

You'll be fine

[wheat geyser]

ok thanks appreciate

i just got my 3060 ti today so it’s kind of like it sight now

[muted patio]

NICE

[wheat geyser]

Micro center is amazing

last one too

[muted patio]

OH yeah they are

[civic tusk]

If it's 650w you looking for and in the US get the antec earthwatts gold Pro 650w

[muted patio]

They even update BIOS for you if you need it

[stoic island]

RMx > RM tho

:D

if it's 650w you looking for and in the US get the phanteks AMP 650w

[wheat geyser]

oh yeah that’s another question i had the 5600x on pcpart picker said it was only compatible with b450 mobos

it’s that right?

[stoic island]

excuse me

what

[muted patio]

No

Not at all

[wheat geyser]

ok

[muted patio]

B550/x570/B450

[wheat geyser]

i thought it was wrong

[muted patio]

but all will need BIOS update

[stoic island]

b450 is one of the chipset it might not even be supported on

[muted patio]

Microcenter will do that for you

[wheat geyser]

ok great

[stoic island]

Some B450 boards can take 5600x, some can't

[civic tusk]

B450 is supported in alot now with bios update

Msi for definite

Asus too

[stoic island]

I actually haven't seen the MSI bios update for 1.1.0 beta or whatever it's called

[wheat geyser]

and my friend is also building one so we’re kinda both in it together, will a 5 3600 be fine in a b550 just out of the box

[little osprey]

Yes

[stoic island]

lmao it was released 4 days ago, that was why

[muted patio]

Yes but if going 3600

Consider 10400

more FPS less money

[wheat geyser]

what is 10400

[muted patio]

Intel I5 10400

[wheat geyser]

oooh

[muted patio]

More FPS and performance than 3600

Less money

[wheat geyser]

ok got it

[muted patio]

Just get a Z490 motherboard

so you have an upgrade path down the road

[wheat geyser]

and that would be fine with a 3060 ti

?

[muted patio]

Oh yeah

[wheat geyser]

and is the 3600 also good with the 3060 ti like good combo

[muted patio]

yes

[wheat geyser]

thanks i appreciate the help a lot man

[muted patio]

10400 is 5-15 FPS better depending on the game though

[wheat geyser]

yeah

ok thanks have a good night

[muted patio]

You too

[clever eagle]

Why has the price of everything gone up

[muted patio]

Tariffs

Demand

Low supply

[ivory barn]

Hi everyone, I am new here. I want to know which control board should I choose for my display B140QAN02.0. Any help will be appropriated.

[muted patio]

14", 1440p, interesting. Unfortunately, I have no idea what control board to use for that.

[ivory barn]

it's ok, thanks for taking your time~

[muted patio]

I looked at that display, what are you using it for?

[ivory barn]

to make a portal external display

[muted patio]

I did find out that it came from a Lenovo Thinkpad

But I don't know any more after that lol

[ivory barn]

yes, it is from thinkpad

I could hardly find any information about the control board for this specific display model in the internet, so I think maybe this is the place that I should get help from.

[hollow grail]

wdym portal external display

[short ruin]

i need help

my ram speed it 3600mhz and it won’t change

it’s set to 2133 and it won’t let me change it

[muted patio]

XMP/DOCP

[short ruin]

huh

@muted patio what do you mean

every time i try to change the ram frequency it doesn’t work

@sullen spoke

[sullen spoke]

he means turn on xmp/docp to auto set the ram freq to advertised oc, then save and exit bios and check in windows

[plush mist]

Did u try doing the xmp profile in bios?

[short ruin]

so when i turn it on i should put the ram back to auto?

it’s on D.O.C.P

[plush mist]

Welp, that’s out of my expertise

Sorry

And good luck

[wanton cliff]

What motherboard do you have?

[short ruin]

asus b550-a gaming

this is what it’s on right now

[wanton cliff]

You may have to go into advanced and change RAM speed manually

From auto to 3600mhz

[short ruin]

i am in advanced

[wanton cliff]

Or whatever the closest option is

[short ruin]

see

[wanton cliff]

Ok you should be fine

Exit and save

[short ruin]

it won’t boot though

[wanton cliff]

Oh?

[short ruin]

yeah

that’s what it’s been in

on

and it won’t boot

[wanton cliff]

Can you underclock it real quick?

[short ruin]

it keeps wanting to stick to 2333

what do you want me to underclock it to

[wanton cliff]

Underclock to whatever is lower than 3657 or whatever

[short ruin]

i tried that

[wanton cliff]

Also can you tell me the exact name of the kit?

[short ruin]

i’ll just send you a picture of it

[wanton cliff]

That may be better

[wanton cliff]

Huh

And it will not boot at that speed?

3600mhz?

At all?

[short ruin]

nope

it just boots back into safe mode

[wanton cliff]

You may have a faulty kit

If so you can ask whoever you bought if from for an RMA of some sort

[short ruin]

should i try to other two slots?

[wanton cliff]

What slots is it in?

[short ruin]

1 and 3

[wanton cliff]

2 and 4 is dual channel

Always put them in those slots

[short ruin]

i thought my mobo was 1 and 3

[wanton cliff]

Make sure power is off

[short ruin]

it said it in the manual

[wanton cliff]

All mobos are 2 and 4

Dual channel

[short ruin]

oh ok

lemme do that rq

[muted patio]

usually A2/B2

[wanton cliff]

Vintage, am I wrong in that?

[muted patio]

Furthest from CPU

skip a slot

[short ruin]

ok

[muted patio]

then that slot

[short ruin]

do i have to let it cool off first

[wanton cliff]

Odd it isn’t A1 and B1 tbh, especially considering those are closer to the CPU

[short ruin]

it’s been on for a while

[wanton cliff]

Nah you’ll be fine

[short ruin]

okay

[wanton cliff]

Make sure you hear a click

@short ruin is it good?

[short ruin]

now only one stick is lighting

[wanton cliff]

Reseat it

[short ruin]

i am

it’s working now

[wanton cliff]

It booted?

[short ruin]

i just gotta see if i can change it to 3600

[wanton cliff]

We shall see

Running RAM in 3600mhz in single channel generally isn’t a good idea I don’t think

[short ruin]

okay

[wanton cliff]

Tbf I haven’t seen much of what happens on it

But still

[short ruin]

yay it worked

[wanton cliff]

Great

[short ruin]

thanks

[wanton cliff]

Np

Thank @muted patio too, he is the one who asked the dual channel vs single channel question

[short ruin]

thanks @muted patio

quick question

@wanton cliff

what does faster ram do

[muted patio]

i didn't ask anything though

[wanton cliff]

On AMD, it increases FPS

[muted patio]

Just confirmed what you thought

[short ruin]

do faster ram=more fps?

[mossy flower]

Anyone know a good keyboard for under 100

[short ruin]

with my two beautiful rare items

@mossy flower gk61

[wanton cliff]

On AMD, yes, especially 3600mhz

[short ruin]

sick

[frozen junco]

how do I update the bios on my aourus mobo

[wanton cliff]

Got a flash drive?

[frozen junco]

The computer works

[wanton cliff]

Ok but do you have a flash drive?

[frozen junco]

and is on I thought I had to do something on their website

yes

i do

[wanton cliff]

Get the flash drive

Download latest mobo drivers

[short ruin]

im on my pc rn lol

[wanton cliff]

Go into bios and into the ‘update bios’ option

Click the file

[short ruin]

I had to do that for my b550 mobo bc i have the 5000 series processor

[frozen junco]

ok

[wanton cliff]

You may have to unzip it, and it’s generally a good idea to clear the drive as well

[wanton cliff]

Doesn’t that mobo have bios flashback anyways?

[short ruin]

yeah it does

but i still had to download the update onto a flashdrive and update it

[wanton cliff]

Oh true

[short ruin]

I had to take out everything except the cpu power and the 24pin power

after i had just put everything in lol

[wanton cliff]

24 pin is a chonker

[muted patio]

Yeah, those are typically no CPU. With the CPU in it won't work

[short ruin]

yeah

i was worried i was gonna break my cpu lol

[wanton cliff]

Also vintage

[short ruin]

im just happy bc i got 2 sorta rare items in my pc without botting

[wanton cliff]

Check my messages in special chat

[wanton cliff]

I wouldn’t say rare, just hard to get

[short ruin]

yeah

thats y i said sorta

[frozen junco]

I dont know why I did such an overkill fan config

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220

[short ruin]

you think 800 rpm for 6 fans is good?

[muted patio]

Heh, I have 7 fans total

It's not overkill

[frozen junco]

3 frount intakes 2 bottem intakes 3 outtakes. and the nhd15 with both fans

[muted patio]

4x140mm and 3x120mm

[frozen junco]

the bottem intakes blow into the gpu

but far enough to not overspin

[short ruin]

i have 6 120

[frozen junco]

The one downside of rgb

Hard to take pics of

[short ruin]

i have one more question @muted patio @wanton cliff

[short ruin]

how come my 2tb hdd doesnt come up in "My PC" in files

[frozen junco]

is it configged

[short ruin]

how do i do that

[frozen junco]

trying to remeber what the word is

can you save stuff on the drive

[short ruin]

no

[frozen junco]

is this a really new pc

[short ruin]

i just booted it up today

like 4 hours ago maybe\

[frozen junco]

partition

have you partitioned it

[short ruin]

how do i do that

[frozen junco]

go to disk management

[short ruin]

how

[frozen junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYoCXh2gtw&t=6s

[wanton cliff]

Nani

Oh

We talking about initializing disks

[short ruin]

yeah

i can save aything onto my hdd

[wanton cliff]

Right click on the windows button and go to disk management

[frozen junco]

skip to 10 min

[short ruin]

im in it

[wanton cliff]

Then right click on the HDD and initialize it

Or format or whatever it says

[frozen junco]

sorry 11 min

[wanton cliff]

Gonna want NTFS

[short ruin]

hold on

i dont see anything that says hdd

[wanton cliff]

It wouldn’t

[frozen junco]

watch the video and if you dont want to do that it is the 2tb one

[wanton cliff]

Just something that is 2tb or close to 2tb

Probably closer to 1,900 GB

[frozen junco]

it would be liek 1.8

[short ruin]

i see it but when i right click it it just says properties

[wanton cliff]

Pictures please

[short ruin]

how do i ss

[frozen junco]

is the disk black

[wanton cliff]

Yeah is it black around it

[short ruin]

how do i ss on windows

[frozen junco]

just watch the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYoCXh2gtw&t=6s

[short ruin]

no

i refuse

[frozen junco]

skip to 11:20

why

[next kestrel]

snipping tool

[wanton cliff]

If you refuse then give me pictures

[short ruin]

how do i ss

[wanton cliff]

SS?

[short ruin]

screen shot

[wanton cliff]

Open snipping tool

[short ruin]

how

[frozen junco]

alt f4

[short ruin]

lol

no

[wanton cliff]

No

[frozen junco]

jk

[short ruin]

i know that one lol

[frozen junco]

prt scan

is you have a 70 or 100%

[wanton cliff]

Open Snipping tool

[short ruin]

how

[wanton cliff]

With the windows key

It’s an app

Open it, press new, make a box around what you want to show us, it automatically copies to clipboard, paste it here

[frozen junco]

do you have discord on your phone

if you have one

[next kestrel]

i think he's trolling?

can't tell

[short ruin]

im not trolling

[next kestrel]

and you seriously dont know how to open snipping tool?

[frozen junco]

I use gefore experience lol

[next kestrel]

click windows button and type in snipping tool

and it should pop up

[clever eagle]

Is the 1650 better than the 1070

[short ruin]

there

[clever eagle]

Yes

[next kestrel]

right click unallocated

and create partition or smth

[muted patio]

no

[clever eagle]

Ur drive is unallocated

[frozen junco]

ohh no ohh no ohh no no no no no

[clever eagle]

Wot bout the 1050

[frozen junco]

watching the video would have made this so much better

[next kestrel]

lol just google that

[short ruin]

lol

[next kestrel]

and you can see it

[frozen junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYoCXh2gtw&t=6s

watch it

11 min 30 sec

[short ruin]

i did

[frozen junco]

do you know what to do now

[short ruin]

i did

it

[frozen junco]

ok

[short ruin]

thanks

[frozen junco]

now it should show up and you will be able to save files on it

[short ruin]

yuh

[strong knoll]

@short ruin what mobo do u have??

[nocturne vigil]

Looking for a montage editor or fortnite and cod

[gleaming quartz]

for free or like an actual paid one?

[bold glen]

what's the best way to "de electrify" yourself when building as to not zap the parts

[gleaming quartz]

by wearing one of these connected to the chassis of your build

[uncut pelican]

You can also just connect it to for say your psu

[jagged ember]

Or just touch your psu plugged into the wall

[gleaming quartz]

yeah

[jagged ember]

Afterwards don't go touching pins or metal bits on the Mobo

Assume you're always charged and handle things by the edges

[gleaming quartz]

true

[jagged ember]

You can grab your Mobo by the heatsink on your io tho

[gleaming quartz]

but if you’re doing a build from scratch where you don’t have a psu in yet, you should have a electric strap on at all times

[jagged ember]

It's safer, sure

And it's not too expensive

[bold glen]

ok

[little osprey]

With these parts, can I stream well?

[gleaming quartz]

sure...? I mean it looks like meets minimum requirements, I guess

but i don’t think you need 6 rgb fans on your pc

4 work just fine

[little osprey]

How bout 3?

[gleaming quartz]

3 works too if you have 2 in front 1 in back

[little osprey]

And also, should I sell all my pc parts because I can’t get my pc to work. And I was thinking of selling them all and getting a prebuilt

[gleaming quartz]

hmm... did it just stop working or did you just build it and not get it to work?

[little osprey]

Just built

Can’t get it to even work

[gleaming quartz]

have you tried troubleshooting it?

[little osprey]

I might take it in for an inspection

[gleaming quartz]

since parts sell for way less out of the box, just saying

[little osprey]

I know