building-and-recc-chat

[split latch]

The only thing the usb has is the windows install tool

[earnest olive]

go to "This PC" in file explorer

right click the usb drive

[zealous edge]

Had a feeling it needed BIOS update from the start.

[earnest olive]

click properties

[zealous edge]

But like 1111 said,better to try the easy steps first.

[earnest olive]

this should say FAT32

[split latch]

That’s what i was thinking

[earnest olive]

mine says NTFS because that's my internal hard drive not a usb stick

so don't worry about that

[split latch]

But I didn’t know because mr 1222 or what ever said it prob won’t be

[zealous edge]

Mr 1222 lmao

[earnest olive]

the number g r o w s

[hollow grail]

@stoic island haha mr 1222

[split latch]

Where do i go from here

[zealous edge]

Its Hella funny isn't it?

[split latch]

It says fat 32

Is that good or bad?

@zealous edge @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

that's what it should be

[split latch]

Okay

So follow the instructions now?

[earnest olive]

just follow the steps in the guide i sent you

[zealous edge]

Thats good

[earnest olive]

and you will be fine

[zealous edge]

Went to the washroom sorry

[earnest olive]

if you got to the POST screen then you most likely do not have a hardware problem

so your build should be good to go after bios update

[split latch]

Okay

@earnest olive yeh i got to the screen then it like froze or what ever

That one dude had the same issue as me

[earnest olive]

yeah that's completely expected

[split latch]

@little osprey

This person

[earnest olive]

you just need to understand what a bios actually does to understand why that's expected

[little osprey]

Lol I think it was just because I hadn’t configured the bios

[zealous edge]

Yeap

[earnest olive]

bios is responsible for talking to everything and starting things up

but ryzen 3000 and ryzen 5000 speak a different language

and it only knows how to speak to ryzen 3000 out of the box

so the bios update teaches it the language of ryzen 5000

[zealous edge]

And thats why it doesn't know what to do with that chip.

[split latch]

Ahhh

[earnest olive]

it's stuck there without update because they don't understand each other so it can't proceed

[split latch]

Makes more senses

[past harness]

You were the guy helping me earlier right

[earnest olive]

maybe

got a lot on my plate right now don't remember everything :d

[past harness]

I have the boot issue

[split latch]

I don’t see my motherboard on here?

[earnest olive]

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/TUF-GAMING-B550-PLUS/HelpDesk_Download/

you can download bios from here

the instructions are talking about a different motherboard but it's the same process

you just need the bios for your own motherboard

[past harness]

Wdym

[earnest olive]

not you

[past harness]

Ok

[split latch]

Ahhh

[earnest olive]

tell me more about your boot issue @past harness

it was a metaphor for having a lot of things to do.. lol

no i have not been sitting here slowly eating food for 4 hours

[zealous edge]

Ikik lmao, I'm just messing with you haha.

[earnest olive]

slowly making my way through a nice strong coffee though

[zealous edge]

I love coffee

I have a giant mug for it lmao

[split latch]

So far

[earnest olive]

my girl looks at me like i have 3 heads for liking black coffee

[zealous edge]

Haha

[earnest olive]

🙃

it happens

[split latch]

This look right?

[zealous edge]

Black coffee is the best

[past harness]

Basically I’ve been told many ways to try and fix this nothing has worked I can boot to my other hard drives that have windows but not my m.2 witch has my windows and some other stuff on it from before I switched the mobo and it shows a m.2 connected in bios but I don’t get an option to boot to it

[earnest olive]

unzip it

[zealous edge]

Ppl are like how do you drink that

[earnest olive]

have you verified that the m.2 drive actually works?

[past harness]

Yes

[earnest olive]

what motherboard do you have?

[zealous edge]

Cpu and mobo?

[past harness]

I can boot to with my old mobo

[split latch]

What do i press

[earnest olive]

extract all

[split latch]

I’m a mainly Mac user so i don’t understand this sorry

[earnest olive]

all good

[past harness]

I have a R7 3700x and my new mobo is a mpg b550 gaming plus

[earnest olive]

so your issue is that the m.2 drive doesn't show up when you're configuring boot priority in bios?

[split latch]

Do i press extract

[earnest olive]

yes

[past harness]

Yes

[zealous edge]

M.2

[earnest olive]

have you tried booting with all other drives detached?

m.2 drives do not need external power

[past harness]

Yes

[split latch]

How do you connect a m.2 to sata

[zealous edge]

Lol mbmb

[earnest olive]

does it boot with other drives detached?

[past harness]

No

[earnest olive]

interesting

[past harness]

It won’t even show up as an option

I can boot to other drives tho

[zealous edge]

Thought it was an hdd for a sec idk why lmaoo

[earnest olive]

m.2 hdd

cursed

never speak of this again

[past harness]

Lol

[zealous edge]

Frfr

Lol

[earnest olive]

which m.2 slot is the drive plugged into?

i believe your board has 2

[past harness]

The main one

I’ve tried both slots they both do the same

[earnest olive]

so the one directly below the cpu?

okay

[past harness]

Yes

[split latch]

What now

[zealous edge]

Did you make sure to put it in the right way?

[earnest olive]

it only fits in one way

so

[zealous edge]

Ik

But

[past harness]

Eternxl I’m not the special

[zealous edge]

Ppl force it

[split latch]

You could put it in wrong

[zealous edge]

I've seen it first hand

[split latch]

Technically

[earnest olive]

so your old mobo booted into it no problems?

[zealous edge]

Lol

[past harness]

Yes

[split latch]

What to i do with the tile

[earnest olive]

does your new pc recognize it when booted into a different windows install?

like

in windows

[past harness]

Yes

[earnest olive]

so your pc sees it fine but it won't boot into it

[past harness]

I think so I can check if needed

Yea

[earnest olive]

when you go into board explorer in bios

it shows that the m.2 drive is detected?

[split latch]

Did i do it right?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[split latch]

Okay

[earnest olive]

now eject the usb and use it to flashback on your pc

[past harness]

I go into bios and click the storage icon and it pops up saying m.2 slot one is taken and the id of the drive next to it

[earnest olive]

okay

hmm

perhaps you can try loading defaults in the bios

[calm dove]

yo

[past harness]

Did that

[earnest olive]

and then see if m.2 shows up in the boot priority

have you tried a bios update?

[split latch]

@earnest olive it says to do this too tho

[earnest olive]

shouldn't theoretically be necessary but perhaps something is wrong with your bios

[past harness]

I tried but I gave up trying to figure it out

Idk how to

[earnest olive]

you don't need to use the button if you are able to get into bios rn

[calm dove]

are 4k tv worth it in 2021 ?

[split latch]

Yes

[zealous edge]

I'm going to go now

[earnest olive]

just put the file on a usb and use the flash utility built into the bios

[split latch]

Me)

[earnest olive]

@split latch yeah just follow the directions

no

[split latch]

Okay

[earnest olive]

ah

this is hard talking to two people at once lol

[past harness]

I can wait

[split latch]

I see

I just don’t understand what I’m supposed to do at this party

[earnest olive]

see the m-flash button at the bottom left @past harness

you can just use that

m-flash from bios is quite a bit more straightforward than bios flash button

[past harness]

Yea but I gave up trying to download the update on to a flash

[earnest olive]

https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C56v152.zip

file is right there

[split latch]

@earnest olive what do i do on that root step

[earnest olive]

just make sure the bios file is not in any folders

when you click to open the usb

that's the root directory

[split latch]

Like this

[severe axle]

@ember frost you should also flip those bottom fans

[split latch]

Or is this wrong ?

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

yeah

that's the right place

[split latch]

Okay so take it out now? @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

yes you can eject from your laptop now

[split latch]

Okay

Should the pc be on or off ?

@earnest olive

When doing this

[earnest olive]

off but plugged in with power supply switched on

[split latch]

Okay

I can’t even press the bios flash button down

It’s like stuck

Oh never mind i did it

[earnest olive]

[split latch]

but idk if it’s actually gonna work

It’s just blinking fast

Ima give it like 15 minutes

Just in case

@earnest olive it’s been going for about 12 minutes now

Is that bad

Actually 15 now

And the light hasn’t stopped

Should i unplug it

Or what

[earnest olive]

umm

keep waiting

[split latch]

The lighting slowed down for like a minute and now it’s going fast again @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

if it's not working it should be fully solid light

blinking means it's working

[left gull]

is it cool if i put my pcpart picker link for someone to look at?

[earnest olive]

sure

[left gull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/422pW3

sweet

[oak jay]

so im gonna get some files off a hdd i have that has an os on it, if i plug it into my pc, and boot the pc up, will it automatically boot to my normal drive or will i have to select it?

[split latch]

@split latch these people on Reddit tecfomendded to press the button again and wait

His is doing exactly what mine did

@earnest olive *

[balmy patio]

what budget are you aiming for?

[earnest olive]

@left gull looks fine but there is cheaper same performance memory available

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x2tKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaad

or not much more expensive for higher performance

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

@split latch i'd let it sit for a while longer

[left gull]

oh cool thanks for the advice!

[earnest olive]

if it's still not done after 30 mins you can try

@oak jay define normal drive? it'll boot to whatever boot priority in bios is set to

you can manually choose which drive to boot to

[oak jay]

i have a drive with my main os

im trying to get stuff off another drive

[earnest olive]

then just make sure your bios is set to boot off of your main drive

[oak jay]

if i plug it in the boot up withh it defualt to my main drive or get confused

ok

so when it boots up selsct the main one

will it prompt me?

[earnest olive]

no, it's a bios option

you can tell the bios in what order to look for a bootable drive

[oak jay]

can i set a drive to always boot off of

?

[earnest olive]

just move its priority higher

[split latch]

My bios flash back button is like stuck in place, and recommendations on how to fix it

Like it’s stuck

[oak jay]

needle nose pliers

[earnest olive]

might be a manufacturing defect on the button

[oak jay]

ok gonna try that

[split latch]

Then what do i do know

Oml

Like I’m so fricked

[earnest olive]

you're unable to press the button again?

[split latch]

yeah

I couldn’t even press it i the first place

@earnest olive what shall i do

[oak jay]

Where do I change the boot priority?

[earnest olive]

click F7 to go into advanced mode first

[oak jay]

Ok

[earnest olive]

it's been a while since i used an msi bios so you'll need to provide pictures along the way

[oak jay]

Ok

Ram is also only running at like 2133

It’s 3600mhz ram

[earnest olive]

new build?

[oak jay]

Yes

[earnest olive]

turn on xmp at the top left

just click profile 1

[oak jay]

Ok

[earnest olive]

for boot priority you will go to settings>boot

[oak jay]

Did that

[earnest olive]

what do you see now

[oak jay]

I’ll send pic

[split latch]

Oh frick

This ain’t good

[oak jay]

?

[split latch]

WE DID IT

WE FING DID IT

[earnest olive]

bios is updated?

[split latch]

LETS FING GOOOOO

ABBYYYY

[stoic island]

nice

[earnest olive]

congrats

[split latch]

LETS FO

[earnest olive]

did you have to press again or just wait?

[oak jay]

What?

Press what?

[earnest olive]

the other person

[split latch]

@earnest olive I LOVE YOU @stoic island @zealous edge

I LOVE TALLLLL

[split latch]

I just turned psu off and back on

Lol

[oak jay]

Oh

[earnest olive]

oh

well congrats

[split latch]

What do i press now

F1?

[earnest olive]

yeah

that will take you back into bios

[split latch]

Okay

WERE IN BIOS

[earnest olive]

so you can configure stuff like xmp

[split latch]

AIII

[earnest olive]

@oak jay looks fine i think you should just give it a try

[oak jay]

Ok

So boot down and plug in the drive?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[oak jay]

I’m booting off an ssd

Ok

Looks like it says hard disk

[split latch]

THANK YALL

@earnest olive what should i do i bios

In

[earnest olive]

most users only need to turn on xmp

[stoic island]

@earnest olive was the issue bios update? wasn't paying attention

[split latch]

Yes

@stoic island

[stoic island]

fun

good to know

[earnest olive]

yes, 5600x in b550

[split latch]

Is that bad

[earnest olive]

not at all

[split latch]

The temp

[earnest olive]

just needs an extra step

[split latch]

Is the temp bad?

[earnest olive]

that's normal

[split latch]

Okay

How do i turn on xmp

[stoic island]

anything <85c you don't even need to care about normally

[earnest olive]

well

that's motherboard temp

[split latch]

28

[earnest olive]

i don't think motherboard should ever be hitting 85C

lol

[split latch]

Lol

[stoic island]

oh VRM temps? <100c should be fine

iirc 105c they start throttling

[split latch]

I’m talking about cpu

The cpu is at 48

46*

[earnest olive]

is that the vrm temp?

[split latch]

No

[stoic island]

ahem, x570 gaming edge wifi would like to have a word with you

[small osprey]

48 is fine for cpu

[split latch]

Okay

[earnest olive]

my motherboard reports a motherboard temp and a vrm temp

[split latch]

How do i turn xmp on?

[earnest olive]

so i think motherboard temp is something else

[small osprey]

wait but thats at idle

its meh

[earnest olive]

ryzen idling at 48 isn't a big deal

[stoic island]

hehehehe

[earnest olive]

mine sometimes shoots up to 60 at idle under a 360mm liquid cooler

LOL

[stoic island]

anyways, I'd imagine a temp sensor on the VRMs

[earnest olive]

ryzen spiky

[split latch]

It’s on stoic cooler

Stock

Btw

[stoic island]

I mean, where else would they slap a temp sensor

[wanton cliff]

The numbers, mason, what do they mean?

[earnest olive]

@stoic island i'm fairly certain motherboard temp and vrm temp are not the same thing

[split latch]

How do i put what my boot drive should be

[earnest olive]

my motherboard has 2 temp sensors for the motherboard that are separate from vrm temp... don't ask me why

[split latch]

Anyone know

[earnest olive]

@split latch you will choose that when you are installing windows

[split latch]

Yeah but it says boot priority

[earnest olive]

i think you need to go into advanced mode to turn on xmp

so press f7

[split latch]

What about fans?

[earnest olive]

you can do that later

[muted patio]

I SEE RESIZE BAR

[split latch]

It’s at 3.7 ghz is that bad

[muted patio]

I'm excited now lol

[earnest olive]

that's normal

[restive nebula]

what cpu

[earnest olive]

5600x

[restive nebula]

i think

[earnest olive]

3.7 is the expected base clock

[oak jay]

Does the hdd have to be in the proper area or can it sit outside the case?

[split latch]

Ah

[restive nebula]

its supposed to base 4.2 no?

[earnest olive]

no

lol

[split latch]

Where do i go now

[restive nebula]

3.7 jr right

[muted patio]

Base 3.7 boost 4.6

[earnest olive]

@oak jay you can literally dangle it from the top of your case like a pinata as long as it stays plugged in

[oak jay]

Ok

[stoic island]

@muted patio iirc AGESA 1.2.0 rolling out in the recent few days too

[split latch]

Where do i turn xmp on at @earnest olive

[muted patio]

My board has Resize BAR available but it's BETA BIOS so I'm noping out for now

[earnest olive]

@split latch not familiar with asus bios it's either under ai tweaker or advanced

try ai tweaker first

[muted patio]

It will be DOCP

Not XMP also

ASUS thing........

[earnest olive]

some boards call it xmp some call it docp

[muted patio]

Asus is all DOCP

[earnest olive]

docp is technically the correct term on ryzen

since xmp is an intel trademark

[muted patio]

Yeah, you have to pay Intel to use that acronym

It's silly

[earnest olive]

but everyone just calls it xmp because it's literally the same thing

[split latch]

Do i put it on profile one?

[earnest olive]

except asus

[split latch]

?

[earnest olive]

yes

[split latch]

Okay

It’s going at 3200 now

I think

What do i do now?

Just noticed one of my fans isn’t spinning

[little osprey]

is it plugged in...

[muted patio]

@stoic island Interesting BIOS notes....... "Version 3402 Beta Version
2021/01/1420.22 MBytes
TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) BIOS 3402
Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.0"

[split latch]

@little osprey i can’t remember

It might be

[little osprey]

WELL GO LOOK LOL

[split latch]

I CANR

Case is closed

[little osprey]

...

[split latch]

And it was a pan. In the ass getting that back panel closed

i don’t wanna imagine doing that again

Hahaha

[stoic island]

Yas

[little osprey]

Turn pc off and open it. I have ASUS and it only says NA when not plugged in for Me

[stoic island]

@muted patio do you have any sticks that can do 4000mhz?

do sum testing

[muted patio]

No

my 3700x won't do that either I'm pretty sure

[little osprey]

Can't G.SKill do it?

[stoic island]

ah

[little osprey]

I know G.Skill 4000 but for zen3

[muted patio]

It's not the ram

It's the processor

[stoic island]

prob ask forky bout it laster

[split latch]

So where do i go now?

[earnest olive]

ugh

[muted patio]

FCLK won't do go that fast

[split latch]

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

gigabyte is being lazy

[little osprey]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

they're still on agesa 1.1.0.0

😔

[little osprey]

My 3700x can only do 1800 ish like you said

[split latch]

Do i press save and exit

Or do i have more to do?

[earnest olive]

i want 1.1.9.0 at least so i stop getting whea errors

did you set xmp/docp to profile 1?

[split latch]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

then that's all you need to do

now you can save and exit and install windows

have fun

[little osprey]

Is timing them basically just halfing FCLK

Because I tried 2000, 4000MHZ yeah impossible

But 1800 3600 worked

[earnest olive]

zen 2 is very unlikely to hit 2000 fclk

most do 1800-1900

[muted patio]

Yup

[little osprey]

Well Yeah I heard that. But thats the gist of OCing right?

Trial and error lol

Pulling out cmos

[earnest olive]

mine does 1900 but i had an older one that only did 1867

[oak jay]

Is this bad

[little osprey]

with FCLK

[muted patio]

not when it comes to FCLK

[little osprey]

Any other settings I need to tweak?

[muted patio]

Zen 2 won't do 2K

[oak jay]

The video is for sound

I know my desk is bad

[little osprey]

Well yeah I get that

[muted patio]

Zen 3 won't really either until BIOS updates

[little osprey]

Zen2 max is like 3600

[earnest olive]

ain't true

[little osprey]

But to overclock

[earnest olive]

👀

[little osprey]

all I have to mess with if FCLK?

No other processor settings?

[earnest olive]

just always leave fclk coupled to ram speed

uncoupled ruins latency

[muted patio]

Head to the overclocking channel

Read the pins

[little osprey]

Ok

[split latch]

Ok i got more questions

[earnest olive]

1900 on zen 2

[muted patio]

I haven't tried that yet

I need to

[split latch]

So i plugged in my windows 10 usb what do i do now?

Any ideas

[earnest olive]

just save and exit

[split latch]

How do i save

[earnest olive]

f10

[split latch]

Yeah but how do i make that my driver

?

[oak jay]

Is the sound in the video I sent bad?

[split latch]

My boot penh

One*

[earnest olive]

it'll do it automatically

you don't need to mess with boot priority usually

[split latch]

I’m just sends me back to bios tho

Maybe not

I can’t tell

[earnest olive]

that means it's not recognizing the usb as bootable

[split latch]

It’s loading

[earnest olive]

you ran the windows 10 installation media creation tool on it?

[split latch]

WIDNOWS

[earnest olive]

oh

okay

good

[earnest olive]

congrats

[stoic island]

do da thing

[split latch]

Thank you

[earnest olive]

@oak jay can you tell what's making the sound?

fan? hard drive?

[split latch]

Does anyone have the windows keys that work when your offline?

[oak jay]

Hard drive

[split latch]

Like for free

[earnest olive]

are you doing things with the hard drive

[oak jay]

Yes

[stoic island]

Don't need a windows key

[oak jay]

It’s opening something

[earnest olive]

normal

[stoic island]

just use unactivated

[oak jay]

Ok good

[earnest olive]

hard drives are pretty loud when you are doing something that requires constant seeking

[stoic island]

@split latch like when it asks for a windows key, there's like a skip for now button in the corner

[oak jay]

I have lost data to hdd faliure once it’s not gonna happen again

[earnest olive]

data redundancy is important

:d

[oak jay]

I freaking hate hard drives now lmao

I want to go all ssd

[split latch]

Do i do windows 10 home or pro?

[little osprey]

My hdd died yeah

[split latch]

Which one boys

[little osprey]

Or is starting to

[earnest olive]

just laser each bit of data into a block of steel and give it an epoxy finish

now your data is preserved

😛

[little osprey]

Whatever key you got

[stoic island]

your choice

[split latch]

I don’t have a key

[stoic island]

home for now

[split latch]

What would you do 1111

Okay

[earnest olive]

you don't need a key to use windows

[stoic island]

you can upgrade later if you want

[earnest olive]

it will just annoy you about activating it occasionally

[stoic island]

without key you won't be able to use the stuff pro gives on top, might as well go home

[oak jay]

I’m in the hdd folder what thing do I open to access the files?

[split latch]

Okay

[little osprey]

Damn you were right

[earnest olive]

well we don't know what files you're trying to move off of it

[little osprey]

I can run 1800 fclk fine

[oak jay]

Stuff on the desktop and all that

[earnest olive]

desktop files from the old windows install?

[split latch]

What type of installation do i want?

[earnest olive]

D:\Users\<username>\Desktop

[split latch]

?

[oak jay]

Ok

[stoic island]

I mean

[oak jay]

Opening that

[split latch]

Upgrade or custom?

[oak jay]

It stopped towards the end

[stoic island]

I think Zen 2 can do 1900mhz FCLK max if you get good bin

[split latch]

@stoic island

[oak jay]

Of the loading bar

[earnest olive]

yeah 99% of zen 2 chips can do 1800 fclk

but good samples can go higher

mine does 1900 fclk completely stable

[quiet root]

i am looking for a PCIe x16 2.0 video card that is window 10 compatible. i can not seem to identify such a card ?

[stoic island]

I believe custom

[earnest olive]

very rare to see any zen 2 going higher than 1900

[split latch]

Which do i want

[earnest olive]

@quiet root pcie 16 x3.0 and x4.0 video cards are backwards compatible

[split latch]

Well i just pressed custom

[stoic island]

@quiet root Do keep in mind PCIe is backwards compatible, you can slap a PCIe 3.0 card (most cards) in a PCIe 2.0 slot without much problems

[oak jay]

It’s loading into the user folder but it stopped at the end is that normal?

[muted patio]

They don't make them anymore. So get any GPU which will work just fine

[split latch]

So i guess custom it is

[earnest olive]

if you were to get something like a gtx 1650 super it would work fine

and not be bottlenecked meaningfully by pcie 2.0

[split latch]

Do i install windows on my ssd?

[stoic island]

Yes

[oak jay]

Yes

[split latch]

Okay done

It’s installing now

Does it take a while

[earnest olive]

pcie 2.0 is pretty old you'd be looking at a gtx 580

[stoic island]

shouldn't take that long

[earnest olive]

gtx 600 series was pcie 3 already

[oak jay]

This normal?

It stopped there

[split latch]

I TINISHED MY PC BOYS

[earnest olive]

hard drives can take a while to seek

[split latch]

are you proud of me

[earnest olive]

give it some time

[oak jay]

Very

[split latch]

Thank you @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

np

[oak jay]

I remember when I finished mine

[split latch]

And everyone

[oak jay]

2 weeks ago

It feels great

[split latch]

Can i use wall paper engine without windows being activated

[earnest olive]

no idea sorry

[stoic island]

3$ ebay key if not :P

[oak jay]

I paid full price for some reason

I regret it now because I’m broke

Still not making progress

Should I be worried

[balmy patio]

eh it really isn't something to regret

[oak jay]

It’s like 400 go of data so maybe it just has to read it all

[sharp viper]

question. so i was throwing old parts together because i had enough for a whole pc and it was working fine and i got windows installed and everything. but today when i went to power on, it stays on the bios screen and i cant do anything. ive tried removing one ram stick at a time and it still did not work. any suggestions?

i also think it could be a failing motherboard but i havent had this issue before

[exotic marten]

Does the windows circle come on at all?

Just goes right into the bios?

[muted patio]

Plug your SATA drive into a different port on the motherboard

Or the drive died

[exotic marten]

Make sure right boot drive is selected

[sharp viper]

drive works

but its stuck on the bios startup screen

i cant even access the bios

[muted patio]

What's the message at the bottom?

F1 to enter setup or something?

[sharp viper]

Yeah

[muted patio]

How old is the board?

[zealous edge]

@split latch Np man

[sharp viper]

Not sure on the exact age but it’s old

[muted patio]

Ah

CMOS battery went dead

Lost the BIOS settings

Get a new one

F1 to enter setup then, check BIOS settings, save and exit

I'll bet it boots

And I'll bet if you power it off it does it again until you get a new BIOS battery

[sharp viper]

Keyboard won’t work with this pc

It’s stuck on this screen

And I know it’s not the keyboard because I use it for my main rig

[muted patio]

If the board is that old it might not accept usb keyboards until a vuos setting is changed

Older buos had a setting for that

[sharp viper]

it worked before

it was setup already

but i got home and whent to turn it on for my nephew and it will not boot

[zealous edge]

Vint

Curious question

Do you know how long the CMOS battery can last for

I had a 10 year old Dell PC and the battery never died once.

[sharp viper]

they can last for a decade i believe

around there

but im betting the old motherboard is fried... imma look into getting a replacement but i built this for my nephew so he can learn how to upgrade, but i never got it to him. might move him up to am4

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hYm6PV

i have this list

and i had a 3060 saved as a gpu

[muted patio]

If youre getting a bios screen its not fried

[little osprey]

but realized i didnt really need it

what should i use instead

[muted patio]

Probs needs a ps2 kb or an adapter.

[little osprey]

im really only gonna use my pc for work and some games like valorant, overwatch, and minecraft

so could i do with a 1660 or maybe a 2060?

[sharp viper]

Like I said it worked fine with a usb motherboard when I had it as a main pc, and when I rebuilt it

[little osprey]

i think my only requisite for the list would be to play games at like 144 fps consistently

[rich helm]

@little osprey change out that storage for a 500gb m.2 nvme ssd

Team mp34 is a good budget one

[stoic island]

helix-l decent

[little osprey]

smash player?

because same

also that doesnt answer my question but

okay

[tame hazel]

How high of an overclock can a AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU have with an AIO cooler?

[sharp viper]

so i just took the cpu out and put it back in and the same thing. tried messing with the ram and that didnt help either. i literally have no idea whats happening and cant find answers lmao

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-wholesome-redditor-heckin-chonker-big-chungus-gif-18690103

[wanton cliff]

Depends on the cooler, depends on the quality of the silicon, depends on the board and how good you are at overclocking, and a few more factors

[muted patio]

I told you. Cmos battery dead need a ps/2 kb

[sharp viper]

turns out the mobo is actually dead

found a broken capacitor

[winged tinsel]

Is it bad if my pc completely loses power for like 5 seconds while I’m gaming?

[ripe wedge]

sad

[wanton cliff]

What PSU do you have?

[winged tinsel]

Phanteks amp 750w

[wanton cliff]

You should be fine then

Check your connectors and wires

Especially the one connecting into the PSU

[winged tinsel]

Yeah the power went out to my house just for like 5 seconds

[wanton cliff]

Oh that’s what you meant

We’re you plugged into a surge protector?

[winged tinsel]

Yeppers

[wanton cliff]

You’ll be fine then

[winged tinsel]

Thanks for the help

[fast dust]

Can anyone put me together a good value AutoCad build? Ive asked about it here before, but I really have no idea what id look for/whats good for the software.
Dont have a price range, just a good value, maybe mid range one?
Thanks in advance, if anyone knows what autocad does well with

[wanton cliff]

I don’t even know what AutoCAD needs

[earnest olive]

@fast dust https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-AutoCAD-134/Hardware-Recommendations you might found puget systems a helpful resource for these kinds of workloads

they have a lot of writeups for different productivity softwares

[little osprey]

autocad needs everything lol

[earnest olive]

the cpu recommendation is a bit outdated, get a 5600x if you can, otherwise look for the 10600K

[fast dust]

GPU?

And 32gb ram, right?

[earnest olive]

it's recommending a quadro p2000 as the highest end option that makes much sense

[little osprey]

min 16gb ram i7 and if you doing 2d modelling gpu is not that important . but for 3d modelling autocad recommend Quadro card

[earnest olive]

16gb enough outside of fringe cases

[fast dust]

So, 10600K, P2000, 32gb ram, then?

[earnest olive]

don't need 32gb unless they plan on having multiple projects open at once

[fast dust]

Alright

[cunning sundial]

Anyone know if you can customize the postcode display on a mobo? It'd be pretty cool to put cpu temp on it.

[earnest olive]

a quadro P2000 isn't strictly required

they said that it's the highest end model that they can recommend

[little osprey]

p2000 is not good model for 2021 to be honest

[hollow grail]

@fast dust i have a laptop that can do autocad if they need one

[little osprey]

actually rtx series have same render performance

[hollow grail]

[fast dust]

What’s the laptop specs doe

[earnest olive]

the cheapest quadro rtx i can find is $893

that's not mid range

lol

[hollow grail]

i9 8950HK @4.5GHZ 32GB DDR4 2666 Quadro P3200

[fast dust]

Dang

Think I could get a used quadro?

Since gpu market

[little osprey]

yeah you can

I had quadro k5000 before .its not bad card

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3WVZZ

just an example ig

[fast dust]

Gotta have the ID-Cooling Cooler lmao

[earnest olive]

it's a good cooler

[fast dust]

I know it is

[earnest olive]

you don't need something super beefy to run single threaded workloads on a 10600K

it will do a great job

[hollow grail]

i sell quadro rtx cards

for like 3k

[fast dust]

[hollow grail]

i mean 3.5k but whos counting

[earnest olive]

lili do you sell gtx 550ti renamed to gtx 1050ti 😳

my favorite gpu

[sharp viper]

i basically have a useless 1050ti now..

[hollow grail]

i dont lol

i only sell server pulls

[earnest olive]

smh

guess i'll have to go get them from wish then

[fast dust]

How much would you pay for a P2000?

[hollow grail]

true

[earnest olive]

the msrp is 425

[hollow grail]

like uhh 300 max?

[earnest olive]

300 used sounds reasonable

[fast dust]

Hikers

[hollow grail]

thats pascal

[fast dust]

*yikers

[hollow grail]

kinda old

[fast dust]

Going for 350 on eBay

Hmm

[earnest olive]

do any miners use quadros? lmao

[hollow grail]

some

but theyre more expensive than consumer

so

[little osprey]

quadro is good for modelling and rendering

[hollow grail]

theyre just binned consumer cards with better prod drivers

[fast dust]

What’s the difference between 2000 and 2200

[little osprey]

I also loving pascal cards

anyone wanna hop in vc to help me fix this corrupt ssd

or chat

[hollow grail]

https://www.techpowerup.com/

use their database

[earnest olive]

holy crap this case

[hollow grail]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-p2000.c2931

[cunning sundial]

Lili, what rgb software do you use to link all your rgb?

[hollow grail]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/quadro-p2200.c3442

[gusty abyss]

I have an old quadro lying around, I wonder which model it was

[hollow grail]

https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB

[fast dust]

More cores and little faster clock

[earnest olive]

i want to build a pc in the big chungus unit edition

[fast dust]

Same

[gusty abyss]

K620

2 gigs of ddr3

[hollow grail]

basically 560ti

[earnest olive]

power

[fast dust]

Sips, I’ll just use your list as a baseline, maybe try to get used quadro, thank you

[earnest olive]

np cutie

[fast dust]

😚

[earnest olive]

oh btw

apparently the silicon power sponsorship offer was legit

i got a response from them

[hollow grail]

oh wdym sponsorship?

dm

[little osprey]

rip

[fast dust]

Oooo poggies

Which products they sendin you doe

[earnest olive]

they just said some of their gaming dram

didn't specify exactly

wonder if they will send the 4133mhz stuff

xmp is 4133c19 which is worse than my 3800c16 but i wonder if i could drop the clocks and tighten the timings

might be b-die

[fast dust]

That’d be sick

[cunning sundial]

@hollow grail What rgb software do you use to sinc all your rgb?

[fast dust]

Read above lol, she sent it

[solid dust]

Ok, I’m kind of a noob at PCs, I can build them and know what each part does but I’m not sure with compatibility and stuff like that, is this is a decent part list?

The case was just for me to get an estimate, my cooler comes with a back fan so I don’t need one in the case

[quasi snow]

what's your overall budget?

[muted patio]

That power supply NO

[fleet pagoda]

Are u gaming?

[quasi snow]

that ssd and psu both aren't good choices

[muted patio]

They literally blow up lol

[earnest olive]

that cooler price offends me

[muted patio]

Phanteks AMP for $109

[solid dust]

@quasi snow around 1500, I have a monitor already

[earnest olive]

$165 for a 240mm aio

[muted patio]

Canada?

[fleet pagoda]

@muted patio did i tell u i got my pc built and running

[solid dust]

@fleet pagoda the majority yes, but also running other programs like solid works

[fleet pagoda]

I finally got a good mobo

[solid dust]

And blender

[muted patio]

But yeah, please change that PSU

They literally blow up

Phanteks Amp. Seasonic Focus, Superflower Leadex or something else

[solid dust]

Ok. Thanks

[quasi snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fq4BD3/phanteks-amp-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p750g_us01

[fleet pagoda]

Spent all my money on my pc now i cant afford games😹

[quasi snow]

this is the cheapest between amp and focus

[fleet pagoda]

I have the AMP 750w gold

[muted patio]

Also, that SSD. haven't heard of em

[solid dust]

Same, I just looked up random ones

[quasi snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101
get this for ssd

[muted patio]

It's TLC with a good controller

It'll be fine

[slim gate]

hey guys, anyone care to help me figure out an alternative to the 3080?

[muted patio]

probably an OEM for other brands

[earnest olive]

really expensive though

[muted patio]

I mean

ON par with Sabrent and Samsung and SN750

for the same thing essentially

[quasi snow]

the 3080 doesn't really have any alternatives because it's a brand new high end card

[muted patio]

800 TBW

Little low but not bad

[quasi snow]

there's the 6800 xt but that's not gonna be any easier to find than the 3080

[fleet pagoda]

Yah

[slim gate]

@quasi snow what if i just got a 3090?

[quasi snow]

3090 is like 700 dollars more

[fleet pagoda]

I got my 3070 off bestbuy surprisingly i was so late to getting on there when they were in stock and lucked out

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jm9sPV i replaced the cooler, ram, ssd, and psu @solid dust

$165 for a 240mm aio made me throw up a little

😄 😄 😄

[slim gate]

i literally just need to get my render rig up and running. would the 3070 be better for rendering than 2x2080s? @quasi snow

[quasi snow]

what are the advantages to a z490 if you're using a locked processor

[earnest olive]

ram oc

and you can just drop an 11th gen K chip in it later on

[muted patio]

Upgradability down the road

[quasi snow]

I don't think so but I'm not as knowledgeable as other people here for that sort of stuff

[muted patio]

Also, I wouldn't trust those Liqmax AIO's as far as I could throw one

They clog up

grow stuff inside

[solid dust]

@earnest olive thanks, I don’t know prices so I can’t tell if I’m getting ripped off or not 😂

[fleet pagoda]

My friend wants to upgrade his pc he told me his specs and ive never heard of the processor

Its a AMD FX(TM)-4300 Quad Core Processor

[muted patio]

New motherboard time

[earnest olive]

i know what you're talking about @muted patio and those were the TR liqtech ii coolers

they fixed it

[muted patio]

Wasn't just TR though

[muted patio]

Time for new MB, RAM and CPU

[earnest olive]

liqmax iii is a newer revision

i used it in a build it was fine

[fleet pagoda]

And its he has a 1050ti w it

[earnest olive]

yeah nothing worth upgrading to on the fx platform

just replace the board

[muted patio]

How old is it?

[earnest olive]

how long ago did i do the build?

4 months

considering it's been 10 months since GN talked about them

and i'm sure he would have something to say if the third revision had similar problems

i don't see a reason to not use it

i've had bad experiences with asus before but i'm not writing off the whole company

[solid dust]

Other than everything else would you say my mother board is good at least? It’s the MSI MPG Z490 ATX lga1200

[earnest olive]

for a 10400F it'll be fine, and i kept it there because i assumed you liked the design or something

but it's not great

[solid dust]

Idk I picked a random one

[earnest olive]

the cheaper Z490-A Pro actually has better vrms

something to consider if you are planning to upgrade later on

but if you're just going to keep the 10400f in there then it doesn't really matter

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg/edit#gid=0

you might find this resource helpful if you're considering upgrading to an overclockable chip down the line

[solid dust]

Ok, I revised everything, and just wanted to make sure everything was right. I really appreciate all of your help!

[ripe wedge]

is that a mesh case?

yeah it is

thats fine

[solid dust]

The case was just sort of to slap on there, I need to check the sizes

[ripe wedge]

the main thing spook to me is that aio

[solid dust]

More for a price estimate

[ripe wedge]

do you want an aio or would you be fine with air cooling?

[solid dust]

I kind of wanted an aio, I found this Corsair one but it was 165

[ripe wedge]

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-U9S-chromax-Black-Single-Tower-Cooler/dp/B08HH6G48J

might be worth looking into this if you wouldnt mind an air cooler

[solid dust]

The main reason I wanted an aio is because I’d keep my pc on the floor, I have hardwood and no pets and just to limit cleaning I guess

[ripe wedge]

ah well a radiator would still get stuff stuck in it

id rather suggest getting an air cooler that for sure will last rather than a cheap aio that might not last a very long time

[solid dust]

Ok. Thank you!

[ripe wedge]

ill look and see if there are any decent cheap aios real quick tho

[solid dust]

Price isn’t really the biggest issue

[ripe wedge]

ah

[solid dust]

Like, I made more because of covid based on my location so I’m not short on money

I guess, idk

[ripe wedge]

so maybe ill look for something that will be overkill for now but if you wanted to upgrade your cpu down the line it will handle it amazingly

so you like the aesthetics of an aio better?

[solid dust]

I originally had the Corsair h100i platinum se

[ripe wedge]

that ones not bad

[solid dust]

I don’t really mind the aesthetics that much so anything goes

[ripe wedge]

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NH-D15-chromax-Black-Dual-Tower-Cooler/dp/B07Y87YHRH

this is like extremely overkill for an i5 10400f but will give you tons of room for upgradibility

cpu wise

[solid dust]

I might upgrade to an i7 in a couple years, but I don’t necessarily plan on it just for the things I’m doing

[ripe wedge]

id just need to make sure that case would fit it tho

[solid dust]

Yeah, I’m changing it rn lmao

It wouldn’t have enough room for everything and good cable management

[ripe wedge]

TD500 mesh is a nice case

thats what I have

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WNJCVNW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

this would be a really good aio if you wanted an aio

[solid dust]

My brother bought a like a custom 32 inch case and he has a 650 graphics card and only uses his for RuneScape

[ripe wedge]

gtx 650? lol

[solid dust]

Yeah

[ripe wedge]

oof

I mean im sure it handles runescape fine

[solid dust]

Yeah just his case can fit like a mini fridge inside it

[ripe wedge]

geez lol

[solid dust]

I got the cooler you said to get, and sorry to keep asking, but would you have any better recommendations for my motherboard or is that one fine?

[ripe wedge]

wait which cooler?

the nh-d15?

[solid dust]

The second one

The all in one

[ripe wedge]

ah the 360mm freezer II?

[solid dust]

Yea

[ripe wedge]

well lets for sure make sure a case can fit it

[solid dust]

I plan on just getting a big ass case so I can put whatever I want in later and so building it is easier

[ripe wedge]

let me take a look at that mobo

ah ok then I think I have an idea of what would be good

let me see if I can find it

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Enthoo-PH-ES719LTG_DAG01-Performance-Tower/dp/B07TTDW37B/

theres a big boi

let me see what else I can find full tower

ah this is the dual pc case I think

[proper badge]

I just built a new pc and whenever I launch destiny 2 it jumps my cpu usage to 100% and it definitely shouldnt be hitting that with a 5800x anyone have any idea why?

[glass dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PlainRicey124/saved/ Is this build goood for a sub 1k range?

[ripe wedge]

does it go back down after the game launches? @proper badge

[proper badge]

no it stays at a constant 100%

[ripe wedge]

as for that mobo its fine for now but it might struggle down the line with upgrades.

like if you tried to put a 10900k in it for example it might not do as well

[ripe wedge]

ah. hmm im looking

[muted patio]

Are you playing WIndowed-Borderless?

[proper badge]

Im on fullscreen

[solid dust]

Thanks so much for you help @ripe wedge I really appreciate all you’ve done for me

[still roost]

vintageRacer79#5330 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[muted patio]

dang nabbit Weggbot

GO here

Method 2

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/high-cpu-usage-because-of-antimalware-service/b20c6fef-0ce1-4ad1-8874-f76c8a89523a

[ripe wedge]

id look into the corsair 4000D airflow case rather than that case, also the psu is meh, id recommend getting something like an rm750x or even rm650x

[glass dome]

well I have the 3 rgb fans bundled up plus the rgb controller for a less of a cost so I don’t really know

[ripe wedge]

np, if you have anymore questions just come here and ask. people love to help here

[glass dome]

and the psu I can’t return

[ripe wedge]

oh well it might be fine

just keep in mind that case has less airflow than like a 4000D airflow

[glass dome]

I plan to have all the places with fans filled so I guess it would be fine

[ripe wedge]

yep should be alright

otherwise solid choices other than the psu

well

[glass dome]

yeah I kinda made that while

[ripe wedge]

actually one thing

[glass dome]

there was no stock

[ripe wedge]

the ram, id suggest getting 3600mhz ram instead of 3200

[glass dome]

mk

[ripe wedge]

ryzen prefers faster ram like 3600

[glass dome]

You think the 3600 will bottle neck the 3060 ti?

[proper badge]

Its definitely not the anti malware

[ripe wedge]

nah

[glass dome]

mm ok

[muted patio]

Heh

[ripe wedge]

a 3060 ti will be fine with a 5 3600

[muted patio]

Valorant ANti Cheat is nasty

[ripe wedge]

3060 ti is about 2080 super level, and a ryzen 5 3600 can handle a 2080 ti fine which is rtx 3070 level