#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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an i7-8700k is worse than an i5-10600k

crystal solstice
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o ok

earnest olive
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thermal paste under the ihs

jagged ember
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Whoa, they do that?

stoic island
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o right

jagged ember
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Also SIPS YOU'RE MOD ASSIST

earnest olive
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yeah they used thermal paste under the ihs until 9th gen

stoic island
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the gap under ihs

fossil halo
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ripp

earnest olive
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and i think it's only 9700k and 9900k that have solder TIM

fossil halo
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i didnt know about monitor

earnest olive
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yeah there are a lot of new mod assists

stoic island
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didn't they advertise shaving the IHS down to fit as one of the benefits for 10th gen?

earnest olive
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yeah

jagged ember
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Wide man is not mod assist

earnest olive
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i am not sure if that applies to the whole stack though

stoic island
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Mr1 not mod assist

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:(

earnest olive
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or just the 10700K/10900K

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i don't remember

jagged ember
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This too

stoic island
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Too lazy to check tbh

earnest olive
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either way

stoic island
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and it doesn't really matter for lower power parts anyways

earnest olive
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it's definitely better than the 8700K

crystal solstice
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i feeel like a rtx 2070 is good enough rather than a RTX 3080

stoic island
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uh

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3070

crystal solstice
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price wise toh

stoic island
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@crystal solstice the problem is, there are no 2070/super out in the wild now

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they're all gone

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unless you want a used card

crystal solstice
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danggg

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nah i dont want used

earnest olive
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a 3080 is a very big performance difference from a 2070

fossil halo
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it is

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but it is also

earnest olive
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i upgraded to 3080 from a card that was stronger than a 2070

fossil halo
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bery expensive

stoic island
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2080ti = 3070

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think about it that way

jagged ember
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Ye

earnest olive
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3080 is almost double the perf of a 2070

cursive wharf
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tho, 2080Ti has XOC vBIOS

jagged ember
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I'm sad I have a 2070s

stoic island
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@cursive wharf just rough stuff :P

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and go away kinpin

cursive wharf
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ye, but like even meh 2080Ti can usually get an XOC vBIOS

fossil halo
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wait actually

stoic island
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was it also a 1kw vbios on the 2080ti kinpin?

fossil halo
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@crystal solstice

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mr111

crystal solstice
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ye wassup

fossil halo
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check out that build

crystal solstice
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is that the one

stoic island
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why tho

fossil halo
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its my attempt

cursive wharf
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I thought it was 2kw, but idk

stoic island
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I don't like it xD

jagged ember
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Why

fossil halo
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at a 1650 build

stoic island
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like

jagged ember
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Why 3600

fossil halo
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i mean

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why i5

stoic island
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10400 beats 3600 with decent ram

jagged ember
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I wouldn't get one even as a current user

fossil halo
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it doesnt even come with a cooler

stoic island
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p2 is sad

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mp34 much better

jagged ember
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P2 also meh

crystal solstice
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is there a CPU cooler

fossil halo
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i was going to ask about the ssd

jagged ember
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Yeah lol

fossil halo
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idk ssd

stoic island
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oh yea lemme change my 1550$ list

fossil halo
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3600 comes with a nice cooler

stoic island
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and update it with stuff

jagged ember
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The cooler is alright

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It's not the best

stoic island
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@crystal solstice do you need wifi

fossil halo
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yea he said

crystal solstice
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ye i need a wifi card

jagged ember
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Idles at 54 c

crystal solstice
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i dont use eternet

bold vale
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I hate reading rules Is this where I go to get upgrade advice

jagged ember
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But that's with aftermarket paste too

stoic island
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@cursive wharf do you have the link to a cheap-ish m.2 key e wifi kit?

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802.11ac works

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@bold vale this chat is all purpose really

bold vale
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Cool thanks I just have a general question really

stoic island
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don't want to slap another 40$ into the motherboard to get wifi

bold vale
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I using the Goldilocks rule how would you upgrade a Z87 sabertooth for the ability to produce music. As in have all the equipment but you can't hear it because of many many years of not abuse but definitely not taking care of it

stoic island
fossil halo
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jsut get a b550 with wifi right

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they are not too expensive

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or whatever mobo intel has

stoic island
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@bold vale What kind of program to produce music?

bold vale
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I hate Wi-Fi I'm LAN when can.

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Right now I'm I've been getting used to FL Studio but the audio interface that I got was pro tools first

stoic island
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hm

bold vale
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I'm just dabbling

stoic island
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So the PC is not working, or is it too weak to run the programs..?

bold vale
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I don't expect to be the next Rihanna especially cuz im Not a woman. The reason it's not working is because of the fact that it just does not have the I don't even know why it won't work I spent 4 days trying to get it to work but two different audio interfaces is spent about 2 hours with Microsoft and guitar Center told me flat out it should just be plug and play

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Sorry I changed mid-sentence there

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One of the problems is that it's possible that my USBs are just not the correct ones but I doubt that because of what other people have said. the front panel of my cooler master I would step on cables over the years

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I really think it's just the motherboard I need upgraded and I just don't gain too much anymore but I'd like the ability to. What I'm looking for is to not have to pay for another motherboard for a long time

stoic island
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So does the PC runs, but the audio doesn't work..?

earnest olive
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if you're doing a $1650 build please get an ssd that has dram lol

bold vale
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The audio works is fine just as long as I'm not trying to produce music myself at least through audio interface because I got a microphone in XLR connection

cursive wharf
earnest olive
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3600C18 ram is questionable with such a high budget too

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also evga bq... for $126

bold vale
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It's it's still a damn good computer It should honestly last a while longer but I don't know why this just does not function

stoic island
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also, I thought there were some 20$ kits (amazon), hm

bold vale
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I mean literally Microsoft didn't guitar Center couldn't even figure it out but I did go to the website for the first interface that I got and they had a list of compatible devices and I saw nothing that I had

crystal solstice
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the Monitor didnt have to be 170hz, i would much rather have a 144hz 1080p 1ms monitor because of it being 130 dollars cheaper

cursive wharf
stoic island
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oh interesting

cursive wharf
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and Intel only certificate thing for that model
I looked into it and it should work

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It was some "pro" model I think

stoic island
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@crystal solstice Yea, but it's also IPS, and had very good color, the 170hz was just a cherry on top

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and also it's 1440p

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not 1080p

crystal solstice
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so is this build the final one or is @fossil halo still in progress with the build

bold vale
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And mid-range price in mind what is the mid-range price nowadays for a motherboard? And what else would be absolutely necessary to get with it

fossil halo
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i think just go with the one mr111 gave

cursive wharf
fossil halo
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he knows a lot more than me im trying to get good

bold vale
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Pretend that I've been out of the game for a while and I don't understand lol

fossil halo
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lmao

stoic island
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Well, you'd likely have a pretty out of date CPU, with ddr3 ram, and relatively bad other bits

bold vale
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4770 k

fossil halo
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i must be his disciple

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of mr111 lili and sara

crystal solstice
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LMAO @fossil halo

jagged ember
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Trust the techies

fossil halo
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to learn the secrets of being a good pc build helper

crystal solstice
fossil halo
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yea

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techies are the ppl who are v v smort

bold vale
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I've collected four round trips that were pretty badass over the years but those are probably outdated.... I did get some shiny new LED lights

fossil halo
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actually i would trust sara too

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shes only vip rn but shes really smort too

bold vale
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Damn voice to text

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RAM chips

fossil halo
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lmao

bold vale
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Hey it hurts to type anymore I don't know why but it does lol

stoic island
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new keyboard maybe ;)

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anyways, how much are you willing to spend for it?

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We could either start anew with modern stuff

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or try to see what's broken, and fix an outdated machine

bold vale
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My graphics card is still all right but turns out I hadn't even been utilizing it correct. Pretend I have$600 and I don't want to spend it all

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I don't often game anymore but when I do it's usually on console so. I just don't have a situation where I sit at a computer to play a game

stoic island
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What exact graphics card do you have?

bold vale
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A gigabyte GTX 970

stoic island
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nice

bold vale
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I hadn't even been overclocking or even had it in the right damn slot

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Let's put it this way I didn't even understand that there was a better slot to put my video card in, But beyond that I was just exploring since I kind of just stopped learning once I started having sex. And then I tried out a raid drive situation and nearly lost everything yesterday

fossil halo
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lmao

bold vale
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Now I'm actually learning about security because I'm just interested

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Thank God for Samsung though They have some redundancy that saved my ass

fossil halo
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what

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"once i started having sex"

bold vale
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Yeah I stopped learning about computers then

crystal solstice
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👀

bold vale
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I mean I played on them but I stopped actually actively learning

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I have BPD I have very very different focuses

fossil halo
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ok maybe i am too young yo understand these

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reasons

stoic island
crystal solstice
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how old are u @fossil halo

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if i can ask

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its k if u dont wanna answer

fossil halo
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im a

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t e e n a g e r

crystal solstice
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lmao

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same

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16 baby

fossil halo
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well

crystal solstice
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we get those dubs

fossil halo
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not quite there yet

crystal solstice
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no way ur 14

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or 13

bold vale
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Did you just pick that all of those?

stoic island
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choose those out because they're good parts

fossil halo
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i think thats one of the baseline builds ig

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yea

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intel baseline build

stoic island
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The SSD isn't sus btw, it's got Phison E12 controller and has dram

fossil halo
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wow

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imagine doom girl really thought her gpu was bad

bold vale
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And cheaper than I was expecting I was literally kind of expecting to have a $400 motherboard upgrade and that was it, Is it better to do this option upgrade more with less I mean.... Upgrade less with more..... They're cheaper but more.... Okay now I'm confused lol

fossil halo
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||cries in gt 710||

bold vale
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If you're new check out my name you are wrong

fossil halo
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oh bruh

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doom gir*

bold vale
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There shall be no l in my name

fossil halo
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aight

bold vale
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Don't worry it's a mistake that everyone makes

fossil halo
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wait

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am i stupid

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or was there never an l

stoic island
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Well

bold vale
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Everyone is

crystal solstice
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... i tohught there was a L

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..

fossil halo
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do my eyes decieve me?

bold vale
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At times

fossil halo
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i mean i know i have thiccc af glasses

stoic island
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A mobo replacement won't be THAT expensive, but it will be extra expensive for being an old chipset

fossil halo
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but i thought that i can see with the glasses on

stoic island
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If you have the ability to spare say 600$, a new build sounds great imo

fossil halo
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yea

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600 is not bad for a new build

stoic island
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hell that list can be cut down too

fossil halo
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1tb ssd 😳

bold vale
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Yes that's kind of stuff that I need to read up on is chipsets and stuff like that. But that builds right there will be good for how many years do you think as far as gaming and obviously it will have the capacity to produce the music out loud through multiple sources right?

stoic island
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Well, I made the list making the assumption you'll use your 970

fossil halo
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u can throw in a new gpu too tbh

bold vale
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Yeah and I'll read on learning how to use that correctly too. But I do have a lot on my plate

fossil halo
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maybe cut a couple things and get a 570

stoic island
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Music will be a "cheap" thing to achieve

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@fossil halo 970 should beat 590

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970 pretty decent gpu

fossil halo
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really?

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oh ok

bold vale
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Yeah cuz I still got a realtek from the motherboard itself. Just doesn't seem like that's a good thing

stoic island
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meant to type 580

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but might beat 590 too

bold vale
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I don't know why it just doesn't sound like a good sound interface. "Realtek"

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It's like they're trying too hard

stoic island
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the B460 board has a realtek ALC887

bold vale
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I could be wrong but the name just misleading to me

stoic island
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I mean, they are decent in terms of onboard audio

bold vale
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I've got the 650 watts for the power supply but......Anybody want to laugh really really hard?

stoic island
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maybe

crystal solstice
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so are 3 case fans and a cpu fan enough for the pC

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PC

fossil halo
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i want to run away

crystal solstice
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to prevent thermal throttling

fossil halo
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bc i heard realtek

stoic island
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@crystal solstice 2 fans and a decent cpu cooler is good enough

crystal solstice
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cuz the case that u gave me got 3 case fans

fossil halo
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3 fans is i think optimal

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2 intake one exhaust

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right

stoic island
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any internal audio chip is hell when it comes to debugging, but otherwise realtek fine

fossil halo
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check if it really comes with 3 fans

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pictures lie

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a lot

stoic island
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mx330-g air does have 3 fans included tho

crystal solstice
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uh ye the reviews say that it got 3 fans

fossil halo
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k i have a english paper due today

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ima work on that cya

crystal solstice
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lmao

stoic island
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good luck

crystal solstice
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peace

fossil halo
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lmao im like past halfways done so im good

bold vale
fossil halo
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HOLY COW

bold vale
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I've been busy lately

fossil halo
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I WAS ABOUT TO LEAVE

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AND KABOOM KABLAM

crystal solstice
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that looks musty af

fossil halo
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^^^^^^^^^

bold vale
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When mental health becomes your obsession and goal you neglect electronics

fossil halo
stoic island
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damn that dust

crystal solstice
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good that u prioritize mental health tho

bold vale
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But as far as the power supply should I get one that's modular?

fossil halo
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yessir

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modualr just makes cable management easier

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modular is more of a convenience looks type thing

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afaik

bold vale
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That one's powerful enough for what you suggested but it's been a pain in the ass

stoic island
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I mean

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The issue isn't exactly wattage

bold vale
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Ooh do explain?

stoic island
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but the reliability of a few years old PSU that I haven't heard of

fossil halo
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old psu

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have chance of go

stoic island
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overexaggeration

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but yea

fossil halo
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lol

stoic island
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Won't literally go boom, but chance of frying everything

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or going up in smokes

bold vale
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I got it from a pretty reputable store though, But I do get it

stoic island
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heh

bold vale
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All right before I go one more laugh?

stoic island
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Sure

bold vale
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Okay this is the condition of my PlayStation 4 after years and years

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It takes like 30 tries to get it to turn on and stay on

crystal solstice
fossil halo
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wow

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nice

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fish

patent cove
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anyone have an opinion on strimers vs regular cable extensions?

fossil halo
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says in vegetarian

bold vale
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Yeah I think I got it at Valhalla..... Please recognize reference

stoic island
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lol

bold vale
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All right thanks again guys appreciate it

stoic island
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:)

gusty abyss
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my old pc was about that dusty

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it was a prebuilt from some office supply store and they set it up with negative pressure, meanwhile I didn't know anything about computers or cleaning them

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years of dust kekw

drifting garnet
# bold vale

This is probably what my dads HP Pavilion is gonna look like when we open it up.

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It is from like 2010 and It hasn't been cleaned in like probably at least 3 years.

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Probably longer tho.

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I'm not really sure.

stoic island
wicked frigate
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Guys is the 3060 better than 3080 for gaming because it has more gb????

stoic island
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what

muted patio
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Wat

stoic island
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@wicked frigate by that thought, a RTX 3080 performs the same as a Rx580 because it's the same size of vram?

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The answer is no btw

wicked frigate
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So is it waste of money for getting 3080 @stoic island

stoic island
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no

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GPU itself matters a CRAP TON

wicked frigate
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Okkkk

stoic island
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ignore vram 90% of the time

wicked frigate
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Wait I have a questions for internet

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Um so if I have a wifi extender and I plug that Ethernet to my pc will I get good internet

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Or should I get. Card

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WiFi 6 card

stoic island
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Ethernet whenever you can

wicked frigate
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But it’s an extender

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It’s not an router

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????

jagged ember
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extenders reduce your throughput

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you basically get less internet than you should compared to a direct connection to router

wicked frigate
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Rn I have an extender that doesn’t plug into my main router

stoic island
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like mesh network extender..?

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because usually the extender would be plugged into the router

jagged ember
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wifi performance sucks even more if you're using the extender

wicked frigate
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And if I plug Ethernet would o get good internet

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It keeps on cutting out

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Wut should I do

cursive wharf
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@stoic island ye good deal, tho, if you dont need the actual PCIe thing you can save a few $ by going individual route.

stoic island
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fair

wicked frigate
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@stoic island what extender should I get Han

cursive wharf
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Also, good example to disprove more VRAM perf is 4gb 1050Ti vs 3gb 1060

wicked frigate
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Than

stoic island
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but it is nice to not have to check if a mobo has m.2 key e or not

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@wicked frigate I mean, best case is always Ethernet right into router

jagged ember
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id rather not use an extender

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if i had the choice

wicked frigate
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I can’t reach

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That’s the problem

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Any other solutions

jagged ember
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i mean there's powerline

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but that also usually sucks

wicked frigate
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What should I do should I run an extender form router to my room or router to enter to another extender than to my room????

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@stoic island

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Also can I see your build

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@stoic island

stoic island
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if you're doing mesh network, single extender somewhere inbetween your room and the router

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why tho

wicked frigate
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Idk

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Just want to see your build u don’t have to

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Ok

stoic island
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it's in build pics somewhere

wicked frigate
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Can u pin

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??

stoic island
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nah

wicked frigate
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Nice

trail dove
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Hey all question. I'm putting a liquid freezer 360 into a p500A. There is enough room to mount on top with the fans as a push config with exhaust out the top, but there is one small screw on the back of the case that prohibits the radiator from sliding back enough.
It does not allow me to install more than 4 screws. Instructions say to install all 12. Am I ok with 4 or should I mount on front or flip the fans to pull through and exhaust?

muted patio
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huh, my EVGA CLC 360 fit there no problem

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Tubes at the front or back

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I use 8 screws.

crystal solstice
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wait yo dude

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uh my build

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theres no windows 10

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is that fine or nah

trail dove
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It's hitting that middle threaded spot on the case

tranquil pike
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i need help picking parts for my pc

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my price range is up too $1300 Canadian

crystal solstice
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some of the techies that helped me are offline rn

eager flower
tranquil pike
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yeahhhhh

eager flower
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send it

tranquil pike
eager flower
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That GPU looks to be too much, but I really dunno CAD

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Honestly looks like a really solid list

tranquil pike
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its my first pc build so i really wanna get it right

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thanks for the help

eager flower
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Yeah its a solid list, good job

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OH WAIT

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A CPU cooler would but helpful but not needed

molten cedar
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You don’t need a 750 W psu for that built you can go to 600 or 650 and save a couple bucks @tranquil pike

tranquil pike
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ok so get a cpu cooler and lower watt power supply

eager flower
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Yes, gammax is decent and cheap for an air cooler

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and lower watT PSU ISNT necessary

tranquil pike
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ok cool thanks

ripe wedge
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or even 550w

junior crescent
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Could someone make a pc list for Gaming and streaming for 2100 Australian Dollars, In the Corsair 4000d Airflow white, I would like lots of rgb

ripe wedge
eager flower
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I could in a bit

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how much aud makes 1 USD

ripe wedge
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not too familiar with australian pricing though

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but Australian prices tend to be higher

eager flower
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you couold go t3070-3080

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roughly 1.6k USD

ripe wedge
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assuming he could get one

eager flower
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true true

junior crescent
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the 3070 is 1000 and 3080 is 1400-1500

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expensive

ripe wedge
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ill look and see what I can find

eager flower
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what currency?

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OH

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lol dumb

ripe wedge
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AUD

junior crescent
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yea

ripe wedge
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wifi or no wifi? @junior crescent

junior crescent
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Is wifi nessesary

ripe wedge
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no thats what im asking

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do u need wifi or can u do ethernet

junior crescent
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no wifi

ripe wedge
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like a wifi card

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ah ok

wanton cliff
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X-570 TUF WiFi was cheaper than non-WiFi variant by $20 yesterday

ripe wedge
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we are in australia right now

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so prices wack

wanton cliff
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True

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Australia generally has pretty good internet connection, no?

ripe wedge
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also x570 is pointless

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b550 would be the way to go

wanton cliff
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Just saying

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Commenting

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Not saying that’s the board to go with by any means

ripe wedge
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yea

wanton cliff
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I don’t even know the budget, I just got here

ripe wedge
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2100 aud

wanton cliff
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So about $1500 US?

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Don’t remember the conversion

ripe wedge
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$1600

wanton cliff
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You could get an X570 with that money

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Should he ever want to get into over clocking

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Or anything like that

eager flower
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dont go zx570]

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DO NOT

ripe wedge
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but b550 is significantly cheaper

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and is more than enough

eager flower
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B550 is better and they won't need an x570

junior crescent
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@ripe wedge If you need i can go another 200 dollars

wanton cliff
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Not at all

ripe wedge
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ah ok then I think you should have enough for a decent build. hold on let me see if I can find cheaper parts. I have to analyze a lot of the parts

eager flower
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Jake send it now i can help

ripe wedge
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and pricing

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ah ok ill send what I have so far

gusty abyss
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did an x570 board kill your mom or something

ripe wedge
wanton cliff
ripe wedge
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x570 ruined my life

eager flower
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x570 is not needed

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waste of money

ripe wedge
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based on story from an intel fan boy

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@eager flower also he requested that case

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
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so was trying to go for a white theme for the parts

eager flower
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Ill look att it in a bit

ripe wedge
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ah ok

eager flower
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im flexing to koopa rn

wanton cliff
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4000D is good

ripe wedge
#

yeah its a good case

wanton cliff
#

Just as long as it isn’t an H510

eager flower
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4000D is good, but an x570 is just completely unneccesary

plush mist
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he is flexingf

ripe wedge
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I have the asus rog strix b550-a in it

smoky marsh
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qwq

My baby x570 I love theee

ripe wedge
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its a white mobo and was decent for price

wanton cliff
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I’m just saying it’s in the realm of possibility. Price to performance on those things is, of course, horrible. They are definitely high end mobos

smoky marsh
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I got mine for 100 bucks

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2nd hand

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
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x570 does usually have better vrms but b550 should be able to handle all of the cpus

smoky marsh
#

x570 msi carbon wifi pro

wanton cliff
#

*will be able to

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
#

yeah thats a decent mobo

eager flower
ripe wedge
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the msi carbon

ripe wedge
eager flower
#

any bb550 and x570 board at the same price, B550 is a lotbetter

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yeah tag sips

gusty abyss
#

isn't the price difference super marginal anyway?

eager flower
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No not at all

ripe wedge
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eh I trust ya

gusty abyss
#

like if you want to save money get an itx board

eager flower
#

for a good quality board of each a B550 is better

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
smoky marsh
#

im doing an Msi build cause Dragons are cool

Also I have an old msi laptop that served me well

ripe wedge
#

still not finalized

wanton cliff
gusty abyss
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matx?

wanton cliff
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mATX is better

ripe wedge
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itx threadripper

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matx is cheap

wanton cliff
eager flower
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itx is expensive as hell

wanton cliff
#

DS3H

gusty abyss
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my brain just says smaller = cheaper lol

eager flower
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matx is not so much

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
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itx is so small it makes it prolly harder to manufacter

eager flower
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here

ripe wedge
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to cram so much stuff

gusty abyss
#

that makes sense

eager flower
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Exactly why ITX costs more

wanton cliff
#

I’ve seen ITX products that are the exact same product but half the size being more than double to price of the original component

gusty abyss
#

bluh

eager flower
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Makes sense

wanton cliff
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Slappy

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You trying to become a regular here?

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Just out of curiosity

eager flower
#

@ripe wedge why is there no GPU

ripe wedge
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because hadnt found one

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I didnt really look

gusty abyss
#

idk I'm just talking about pc components 'cause I'm bored and recently learned a bunch

wanton cliff
gusty abyss
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didn't know a whole lot before I built a new system in november

ripe wedge
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lmao a 3080 would make it like $2800 aud

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so maybe 3070

wanton cliff
#

Depends on the 3080

ripe wedge
#

asus tuf

smoky marsh
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Bruh any gpu rn is just nice to have

ripe wedge
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$1399 aud

wanton cliff
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For $1600 you can fit a 3080 relatively easily

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USD that is

gusty abyss
eager flower
ripe wedge
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yeah but then you would have to go cheaper route and go intel

wanton cliff
eager flower
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fixed it a tiny bit

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changed PSU and SSD

smoky marsh
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Im stuck waiting for a worth while GPU to come in stock rn

wanton cliff
ripe wedge
gusty abyss
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tuf reliable as hell 😤

ripe wedge
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especially when pairing with a 3000 card

smoky marsh
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till then Im gaming on a 1660 ti i7 msi laptop

eager flower
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changed it didnt realize

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then all i changed was the sn750 to a 970 evo

ripe wedge
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also why not SN750

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cheaper sn750

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and super good

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I use an SN750

eager flower
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theres a $5 and 970 evo is still faster

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$5 diff between sn750 and 970 evo

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and a speed inc

ripe wedge
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well either way

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I think the 970 evo gets hotter

eager flower
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sn750 isnt bad dont get me wrong

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it has a heatsink itll be fine

gusty abyss
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corsair mp600 gang kekw

eager flower
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oh god

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lol

wanton cliff
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Never run a benchmark or anything but I kept the Magician software open for a day downloading and moving files and such

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Just watching

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Also happy January 16th to everyone on Central Time

ripe wedge
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hmmm

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500gb 970 evo has 500mb cache

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p sure the sn750 has 1gb for the 500gb model but let me check

eager flower
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Cache isnt everything

wanton cliff
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A whole gig of cache?

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Damn

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Also yeah cache doesn’t matter too much after a certain point

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tfw you can download the original Doom game on your L3 cache

ripe wedge
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yeah but windows likes bigger cache pretty sure

wanton cliff
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After a certain point it doesn’t really matter

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Do games load extremely fast?

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Yes

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Are you going to be bottlenecked by your drive?

gusty abyss
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I'm just here for that boot speed

wanton cliff
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Not any time in the near future

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Now this argument could go both ways

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But I would go with the 970 just because it runs cooler and is a bit faster

ripe wedge
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either way

wanton cliff
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Gonna go see what the idiots in general are talking about

eager flower
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Who you callin an idiot

smoky marsh
#

Hey... Im the biggest Idiot I know

prisma edge
#

I am exetremely confused I have a z63 kraken aio I am trying to use in my brand new build and I think the pump is working but the lcd display is not working at all and I have tried unplugging and replugging in everything does anyone have any possible fixes?

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Dm me if you do I dont mind

crude hazel
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Guys i got a big question. Can 2 PCIE 8 pin (6+2) cable power a 3090?

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Building my computer now and im freaking out that I need to buy seperate cables

thorn garnet
#

What am I doing wrong? I’m trying to screw in the cpu cooler screws for AMD and they just won’t go in? I’m turning over and over and the screw isn’t even close to the hole

uneven mist
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does anyone know which way ek fans pull

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through the logo out the bacj

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or through the bakc out the logo

pliant lake
ripe wedge
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yep

crude hazel
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Is there a specific configuration i need to do for it not to be damaged?

ripe wedge
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I wouldnt use 1 cable with the one where it comes off of 1 cable tho

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I would use 2 cables if it has 2 8 pins

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and if it has 3 8 pins then a 2 cable + 2 8pin + a extra cable coming off of it to power it would be fine but another separate cable would be recommended

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if that makes sense

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do ya get what I mean?

crude hazel
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I’m a bit confuaed

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Confused

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😅

ripe wedge
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so you would want 3 of these cables singular but if they have the ones that split off I wouldnt use it

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so if it splits like that I would only use 1 of them

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and then use another cable for another

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this basically

ripe wedge
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id just make sure everything is plugged in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GQW9omloPw&t=443s&ab_channel=GearSeekers @prisma edge this video should be able to help ya. I have a Z73 Kraken personally

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if it doesnt work after following those steps id RMA it

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meaning its defective

ebon wing
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^

crude hazel
ripe wedge
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makes sense now? @crude hazel

crude hazel
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Yup @ripe wedge

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Thanks

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I have to resort to buying other cables

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Don’t trust then split ones

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Dang jt

celest glade
#

i have a problem with my pc that I haven't bothered dealing with until now

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my pc always boots only on the 2nd try

ripe wedge
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the ones that come with your psu are fine and recommended to use @crude hazel

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so if they have the split on them they are fine but just dont use the split

celest glade
#

the 1st try, it just keeps showing the ASRock logo (I have ASRock mobo), and it never shows the windows spinning dots

ripe wedge
#

weird

celest glade
#

I have to turn it off and on again and then it boots into windows

ripe wedge
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I wonder if its booting in a safe mode or something

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in the bios

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have u done any OC at all?

celest glade
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no

ripe wedge
#

hm

celest glade
#

i tried GPU oc but I gave up

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and I don't think I applied anything

ripe wedge
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gpu oc is easy

celest glade
#

I used afterburner

ripe wedge
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yeah that shouldnt affect this

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shouldnt

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lol

celest glade
#

yeah

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it's been like this for like always

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I think think

ripe wedge
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I mean

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as long as it works fine

celest glade
#

but yeah, it should be a mobo problem

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it's still an inconvenience

ripe wedge
#

yeah thats kinda annoying

celest glade
#

damn why did I have to get banned from PCMR

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well imma go for now

#

ty

ripe wedge
#

huh

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why were u banned from pcmr

crude hazel
#

@ripe wedge oh oh oh what i meant it was split the end is 6 pin + 2pin and not pure 8pin straight to gpu

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Idk if that makes sense

ripe wedge
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yeah so 6+2 is normal

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thats fine

crude hazel
#

Oh okay

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And thats fine

ripe wedge
#

yup

crude hazel
#

Just dont use the split

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Use 3 cables

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Of the same

ripe wedge
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if it has 3 8 pins yeah

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for a 3090

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which model

crude hazel
#

Okayyy

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Rm850x

ripe wedge
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meant gpu

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but thats a good psu I have it

crude hazel
#

Asus strix

ripe wedge
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it should have 3 gpu cables

crude hazel
#

3090

ripe wedge
#

ah I think thats 3 8 pin

crude hazel
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Wouldn’t recommend using 6pin +2pin?

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The 2 pin part wont go all the way in

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It’s halfway which worries me

hollow grail
#

you did something wrong then

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the 2 pin clips to the 6 pin

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makes it even

ripe wedge
hollow grail
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if it isnt even you didnt attach it correctly

ripe wedge
#

yeah they should clip in

crude hazel
#

Like the manufacturer put the 2 pin 5mm shorter

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And it wont clip

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One of the cables

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The other 2 cables are fine

ripe wedge
#

send a pic of it

hollow grail
#

show?

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90% chance its just user error and we can get it fixed in like 30 seconds :))

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then you can get to enjoying that gpu hehe

ripe wedge
#

^

crude hazel
ripe wedge
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yup user error

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make sure ur lining up the notches

hollow grail
#

these

ripe wedge
#

^

hollow grail
#

the like

ripe wedge
#

it should fit in evenly

hollow grail
#

idk how to describe im super baked

ripe wedge
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move it in from the side

hollow grail
#

jake describe the top thing going under the other thing

ripe wedge
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the +2 should go up more

hollow grail
#

like this

ripe wedge
#

^

crude hazel
#

The tape doesn’t help me move it up

ripe wedge
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move the 6 down

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then

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dont be afraid to pull it a bit

hollow grail
#

what tape

ripe wedge
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theres like a bundle of tape

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I know what hes talking about

hollow grail
#

oh like one the semi sleeved cables

ripe wedge
crude hazel
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Oh my god

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Okay

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Its done

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All connected

hollow grail
#

ezpz

ripe wedge
#

very good

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id recommend for a build that nice to get custom cables

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I can recommend some

crude hazel
ripe wedge
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I use Asiahorse cables

crude hazel
#

But the split cables make ot so freakin ugly

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Oh my god

ripe wedge
#

yeah that looks like a mess

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ill send what I have

crude hazel
#

I’ll use it temporarily

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Then but custom cables

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For sure

ripe wedge
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but be aware

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it only comes with 2 8 pins

crude hazel
#

Yes air

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Sir

ripe wedge
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the other is a cpu power cable

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also I see ur trident royals

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lol

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kinda gross

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but nice I guess?

crude hazel
#

Ahahahaha

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I love them

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XD

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When I’m finished

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Taking photos

ripe wedge
#

im not a fan of the diamond on the top

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shape

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kinda tacky

hollow grail
ripe wedge
#

for real?

hollow grail
#

ymmv

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yeah

ripe wedge
#

oof

hollow grail
#

i just use cablemod stuff when i need to

ripe wedge
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ah

hollow grail
#

big trust to them

ripe wedge
#

well im glad my pc didnt blow up lol

hollow grail
#

yet

ripe wedge
#

no

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never

hollow grail
ripe wedge
#

I cry if my 3080 gets destroyed by a power cable

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lol

hollow grail
#

id laugh my ass off

junior crescent
#

Could someone make a list for gaming and streaming for 2000-2200 AUD, i would like no rgb just performance

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i would like to play cod, apex, gta, battlefield, Assasins creed and other triple a games at high or ultra settings at 1080p or 1440p

hollow grail
#

@junior crescent

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pretty sure thats alright but am tired

pliant lake
#

I don’t think if you can find $1000 3080s there as the 3070 starting price is $800

hollow grail
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i just converted usd msrp to aud

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so 3080/70 whatever

crude hazel
#

Got my comp working. The split cables look horrendous @ripe wedge @hollow grail thanks for reassuring me the cables work and recommending me cablemod since i heard asiahorse is bad xD

hollow grail
#

yeah cablemod is good

ripe wedge
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lol apparently yeah

hollow grail
#

asiahorse is alright but like

ripe wedge
#

guess I just got lucky

hollow grail
#

idk after seeing that

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i wouldnt use it in any of my personal builds

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and i dont tell people to use stuff i wouldnt use myself

ripe wedge
#

me neither

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but didnt know about that with asiahorses cables

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but now I know

hollow grail
#

well to be fair i wouldnt use a mp34 and i still tell people to get them

tough kettle
hollow grail
hollow grail
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its aud tho

tough kettle
#

yep I would be pretty surprised if an RM for 200 was the cheapest

ripe wedge
#

mp34 should be fine

hollow grail
#

but i only tell ppl to use what ive used before

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most of the itme

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time

ripe wedge
#

which is why I recommend the SN750

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970 evo also good

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but dont have one

tough kettle
#

Don’t need 850 though

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750 would be fine

ripe wedge
#

hmmm

hollow grail
#

lmao looks like ass but i trust decks

tough kettle
hollow grail
#

i literally only do storage for the most part keeeeek

ripe wedge
#

I am trying to learn more about storage devices but there do be so many

hollow grail
#

u have me

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no learn needed

ripe wedge
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lol

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i sleep now

muted nymph
#

Hii evryone

Have q about hardware

What should i choose? I7 10700 or I9 9900k ?

hollow grail
#

10700

muted nymph
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Why?

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And with what motherboard and memories card ?

little osprey
muted nymph
#

And why i7?

little osprey
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because i7 is the same as i9 9900k

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but the socket has better upgrade path

muted nymph
#

I saw i9 have a better bench mark..

little osprey
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depends

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both can OC if you are getting the K variant

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also bench mark doesn't really translate to real word usage.

formal cosmos
#

i need help with my new pc

muted nymph
#

Ill ask that :
I can choose agift from work between those 2 cpu...
I9 9900k or I7 10700. (Have 250 dollar giftcard)
The thing is that i can buy the i9 + gigabyte auros elite z390 by adding 100 dollar.
If ill buy the i7 i dont have motherboard on work store so ill need to buy from my own money...

So what do u think?
Im not a trully gamer...

formal cosmos
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everything is working perfectly but i just don’t know how to change the fan speeds(120mm fans not gpu fans)

muted nymph
formal cosmos
little osprey
tough kettle
#

@muted nymph what purpose?

civic tusk
#

i7 10700 is non overclockable if that matters to you though

muted nymph
muted nymph
little osprey
cyan canopy
#

So I got windows installed on my ssd but it won't show up as a boot device, how can I get it to boot from it

muted nymph
# little osprey should be.

Thanks Kad
The cpu memory type is ddr4-2666.
Pleass recomend me of Ram for the i9 9900k and the z390 Elite motherboard.
And cooling as well please

tough kettle
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@muted nymph what is the price for a 9900k?

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and a 10700?

bold vale
#

Mr1111111111, you here?

blazing aurora
#

that's a lot of ones

analog hearth
#

too many

bold vale
#

Yeah I think there was only four ones but I just wanted to emphasize lol. Anyone as knowledgeable as he seemed to be

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Wanted to ask a couple more questions

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Well I'll just hope that there is.

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Not that I think it's better or anything I'm just learning

muted nymph
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@tough kettle 200 usd

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160 usd

bold vale
#

As I'm still learning seriously a lot of stuff .......

tough kettle
bold vale
#

It does have a whole another +10 numbers after the Z

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I'm just wondering what the difference is between the z97 versus my Z87

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Hey you start by learning the basics

muted nymph
bold vale
#

I'm trying to understand what the difference is here is all

tough kettle
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As fuc because no cursing allowed in servers

cyan canopy
#

This is the screen I get when I boot from my m2

tough kettle
#

The motherboard is on a different socket

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10400 is LGA1200 that is LGA1150

muted nymph
muted nymph
tough kettle
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Price for 10700?

bold vale
#

And the only reason why I'm questioning is just because if possible I was only hoping to just get a new motherboard that's all. as of now I'm not really gaming a whole lot It's just that the damage and wear and tear is seemingly limiting my abilities here

muted nymph
bold vale
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This is just the first example I found

tough kettle
bold vale
#

I could buy his build and I would like to but I'm a cheap bastard.

muted nymph
#

Ill ask that :
I can choose agift from work between those 2 cpu...
I9 9900k or I7 10700. (Have 250 dollar giftcard)
The thing is that i can buy the i9 + gigabyte auros elite z390 by adding 100 dollar.
If ill buy the i7 i dont have motherboard on work store so ill need to buy from my own money...

So what do u think?
Im not a trully gamer...

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@tough kettle

tough kettle
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Oh mobo for free?

muted nymph
#

What is mobo?

tough kettle
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Motherboard

bold vale
#

Damn I couldn't think of a funny acronym fast enough

tough kettle
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Why don’t u add 100 usd to the 10700 and buy a mobo

tough kettle
bold vale
#

Let me see if I can find an actual real example of what I would try to actually do if I were going to not spend as much. Plus I'm like trying to get it ordered ASAP so I can get it today got to love prime

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I suppose I should ask is there such thing as backwards compatibility for a processor? Like I'm seriously thinking like can I buy it PlayStation 5 and and use a PlayStation 3 controller. Just as the only metaphor I can think of right now

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If I throw in $300 am I going to be able to use my chip or do I have to upgrade the chip to

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Sorry $200

tough kettle
#

It’s not really backward compatibility if it’s on the same socket

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Like 11th gen will work with Z490s because of the same socket

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But if you take a 9th gen mobo it won’t since different chipset

muted nymph
bold vale
#

Just to get a better frame of reference

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Hell does anybody have a link to a motherboards for dummies video series on YouTube

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A cliff notes lol

cyan aspen
#

Could someone help me with a lighting problem with my rgb cpu fav

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Fan*

hushed juniper
#

I'm newer to building, trying to help a friend who has no clue. She plays the Sims and Overwatch and will probably play some more lighter games that are similar. No streaming, video editing or anything like that. Any suggestions on improving this (lowering the cost) without making it massively underpowered or cheap? Or any glaring issues that anyone sees?

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little osprey
#

5600x is kinda overkill for that tho

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i would go 10400f

muted patio
#

Yes

little osprey
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unless she has a big budget

hushed juniper
#

Perfect. My part knowledge is pretty limited so I appreciate any and all input. I can put it all together.

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Any mobo recommendations to pair with the 10400f?

little osprey
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uh...i gotta check the price of mobos rn

hushed juniper
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Awesome, thank you so much for putting in the effort to find that.

little osprey
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z490 is a option but only if she is going to OC but i highly doubt it.
also need to buy a K chip aswell

hushed juniper
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No, she won't OC

little osprey
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ah alright

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then that mobo is gonna do fine for her.

hushed juniper
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Perfect. Outside of the CPU (and subsequently the mobo) the rest of the build seems fine?

little osprey
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the case uh...idk, not a expert on that
the 1660 is alright if you find it for it's price.
the ssd idk aswell
the psu is alright
ram swap to cl16 if it's the same or nearly the same price

muted patio
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Case is oof for airflow. Looks nice and that's about it.

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For that budget, maybe a Phanteks 360a/400

hushed juniper
#

CL16 is only about $10 more, so I'll swap it

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I'll look into the other cases as well!

scenic turret
hushed juniper
#

Just wanted to say that everyone on this Discord (that I've run into at least) is super helpful and always willing to provide great advice without belittling the person asking. It's been a great resource whenever I've had questions, so thank you.

fossil halo
#

well looks like kyle hasnt talked to lili about building a laptop psp

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LMAOOOO

#

thats when the belittling starts

#

lmao

#

but like fr this chat real helpful

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apparently newegg support just tells people to join and ask here sometimes

little osprey
#

we are newegg support 2.0

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except we don't get paid

muted patio
#

Yeah, and we should actually help instead of telling people their stuff is ass

muted nymph
#

I7 10700 vs i9 9900k ?

vagrant olive
#

9900k

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better, and also is k series so you can overclock if you want

fossil halo
#

lmao

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i mean

#

its kinda the difference of

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i7 aned i9

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if u can afford the i9 go ahead

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but yea if u want anything intel always look for that k

#

it means that the processor is unlocked

#

i think all ryzen are unlocked?

#

right

slate zenith
#

10th gen intel will use a 500 series board, which will also support 11th gen cpus in the future

#

purchasing a 9th gen cpu means locking yourself to a 300 series chipset days after the 500 series was dropped

#

neither of those two CPUs will make a tangible difference to you if you cant discern this difference between them

#

get the new board and new chip

#

dont spend the same on old tech

fossil halo
#

that is a rather compelling argument

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or you know

#

you could kinda

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g o r y z e n

slate zenith
#

or go ryzen

fossil halo
#

yeappers

slate zenith
#

both the intel and amd 500 series platforms are dead at the end of 2021 regardless

fossil halo
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5600x beats some i9's

slate zenith
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neither has an advantage over the other

fossil halo
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iirc

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5600x is a goated processor

slate zenith
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the rocket lake cpus are going to be in the ballpark

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idk who will win

fossil halo
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tru

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bc now

slate zenith
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itll be close regardless

fossil halo
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they have an ace up their sleeve

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p a t

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g e l s i n g e r

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apparently hes good or something

slate zenith
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yeah intel has better leadership now

wanton cliff
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5600x beats most Intel processors

fossil halo
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like is it gel singer

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or is it

wanton cliff
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Hi bigga

fossil halo
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jel singer

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hi sara

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how do u say it tho

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g sound or j sound

slate zenith
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hard G

fossil halo
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got it

slate zenith
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regardless, the capabilities of the x570 and z590 platforms and the CPUs that go in them imo will be close enough that purchase decisions should be about preference, price, and availability

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ryzen 5000 vs rocket lakes

fossil halo
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yea

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rocket lake aint out yet and i assume when it comes out it too will be a paper launch

slate zenith
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intel finally caught up and added +4 more pcie lanes on the cpu for nvme storage

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and doubled the dmi bandwidth

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that matches them with AMD