building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

mhm, example here

[drifting garnet]

Ok

[stoic island]

I've used both of those on my flashdrive lol

[drifting garnet]

Wait i need both files?

[stoic island]

no

[drifting garnet]

Ok just the rom one?

[stoic island]

@drifting garnet you rename the top file, the bios file, into MSI.ROM

[drifting garnet]

Alrighty

Thx, I hope it works

Or I will cry

At least I can admire the RGB

My floor is a mess because I was looking for the manual

Lol

[fossil halo]

wow my friend actually has a really similar build

same case same mobo same cpu

[drifting garnet]

Wowie

[fossil halo]

he has a rx 5600xt tho

[drifting garnet]

O

[fossil halo]

i have a rather different build

yes

i have a better gpu tho

[drifting garnet]

The latest bios is the one that broke it, should I try flashing a slightly older one?

@muted patio

Anyone please

[fossil halo]

sure

wait

actually

dont go off my word

layering the bios may make it worse

@stoic island

this man is in need of help from a smort person

[hollow grail]

whats going on?

[drifting garnet]

Yes, for sure.

[fossil halo]

tldr

[muted patio]

Ah

Newest is a Beta

[fossil halo]

this dude bios update

computer black

[muted patio]

Reflash the one from 12-17-2020

[hollow grail]

oh its bios related

[fossil halo]

yea lmao

[muted patio]

https://download.msi.com/bos_exe/mb/7C95v25.zip

this one

[fossil halo]

xD

oooof beta bios

[drifting garnet]

I am the dumbest human being to ever live.

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

[formal cosmos]

which one? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KTQG3C/western-digital-sn750-500-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds500g3x0c or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4ZFf7/samsung-970-evo-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v7e500bw

[fossil halo]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[fossil halo]

970\

ask

lili

storage queen

@hollow grail

im p sure 970 is the way to go

[formal cosmos]

mmk

[hollow grail]

i like the 970 more

[drifting garnet]

This file is my last hope

[hollow grail]

better software

[fossil halo]

nate approximately how much poo has come out

[hollow grail]

all

[muted patio]

It's fine

[drifting garnet]

7 pounds

[muted patio]

if you get a DEBUG light, just flash BIOS

All will be good

[fossil halo]

damn

[drifting garnet]

Also

[muted patio]

And DON'T use Dragon Center again lol

[fossil halo]

thats like the weight of a healthy newborn baby

[drifting garnet]

I will be exchanging words with the support team

[fossil halo]

LMAO

[muted patio]

LOL

[drifting garnet]

Do i leave the bios in the folder?

[muted patio]

IDK how MSI works to be honest

Mr1111 said someting about renaming

My ASUS is different

[drifting garnet]

I did the rename

[fossil halo]

transcript
||frick|| you, you pieces of ||shoot|| make better ||freaking|| software stop releasing this ||shoot|| it literally broke my ||freaking|| computer

[muted patio]

If you did the rename, should be good to go

Not sure if you need to remove CPU or not, some do some don't

[fossil halo]

i have gigabyte 😭

[zealous edge]

What even happened lmao

[fossil halo]

bios

this dude downloaded a beta

and it killed his computer

[muted patio]

Flashed Beta Bios, bad things happened

[fossil halo]

and a lot of poo came out

7 pounds if i remember correctly

[zealous edge]

I see

[drifting garnet]

Actually I don't know if it was the beta one honestly.

I will check after my PC works again hopefully

[fossil halo]

lol

[formal cosmos]

so... 970 is the way to go?

[fossil halo]

what the absolute 7 pounds of poo

gt710 problems 😫

[wanton cliff]

Zoom do be breakin your computer tho

😳

when my iGPU is better than your dedicated GPU

[urban trellis]

Lol

[fossil halo]

fr lol

[wanton cliff]

Vega 7 gang

[fossil halo]

wait

i thought u had r7 3700x tho

same as me

[wanton cliff]

Laptop iGPU

[fossil halo]

oh LOL

[wanton cliff]

And I have a 3800x

[fossil halo]

i have this old laptop

has a i7vpro idk what that means

it has garbage integrated graphics

[muted sluice]

@drifting garnet how much u oc that r5

[fossil halo]

like garbage in the face of the gt 710

[wanton cliff]

On my desktop I have a 3800x and 5700xt, on my laptop I have a 4700u with Vega 7 graphics

[fossil halo]

lucky ass

[muted sluice]

amd boy i see

[fossil halo]

i mean i think im gonna get a m1 mac soon tho

so ill be chillin then

[wanton cliff]

Soon to be replaced with a 10300H with a 1650Ti

[fossil halo]

m1 mac 🔥

[wanton cliff]

No

Not really

[fossil halo]

if you get it free

[drifting garnet]

So the bios light is flashing and the pc turned on, no video signal now just waiting for the flashing to stop.

[wanton cliff]

Only as powerful as a 1050

The m1, that is

[fossil halo]

with no dgpu

[wanton cliff]

True

But still

No dgpu period

[fossil halo]

it'll have a better gpu then my pc 😂

[zealous edge]

5700xt gang

lol

[wanton cliff]

Our GPU are great but the drivers are [EXPLETIVE DELETED]

[fossil halo]

LOL

wait my friend has a 5600xt acutally

[drifting garnet]

Hope this bios flash works

[fossil halo]

and his fps in fortnite is ass

[muted sluice]

ur drivers were once detected as a virus

[fossil halo]

but my other friend has a 5600xt as well

[wanton cliff]

Yeah lol

[fossil halo]

and he gets chad fps

[wanton cliff]

Someone has a bottleneck somewhere probably

[fossil halo]

like its xfx vs msi

nah

the dude who has problems has a r5 3600

[zealous edge]

Drivers are fine now.

[fossil halo]

and the other dude has a 3600xt

so not much difference

[wanton cliff]

No they aren’t lol

[zealous edge]

Nah they are lmao

[wanton cliff]

Plus video encode is garbage

[fossil halo]

riot vanguard is a virus

i swear

[wanton cliff]

This is true

[zealous edge]

Well

Video encode, you can use a CPU.

the CPU*

[drifting garnet]

The bios flash light is still blinking

[muted patio]

it'll take a while

it's slow

[drifting garnet]

Ok

[zealous edge]

Idk what problems ur having lmao

[wanton cliff]

A failing GPU, among other things

[drifting garnet]

IT WORKED

[urban trellis]

I have a 1660 ti

[little osprey]

[drifting garnet]

MY LOVELY WALLPAPER

[urban trellis]

Nice @drifting garnet

Lol

[zealous edge]

I have an Aorus 5700xt

Idk lmao

Maybe that ur hardware

[wanton cliff]

Sapphire here

[zealous edge]

Nitro +?

[urban trellis]

Gigabyte

[wanton cliff]

Yes

[urban trellis]

Here

[zealous edge]

That might be why...

[drifting garnet]

I would like to thank who ever helped for saving my ass

[small osprey]

you can thank vintage

[muted patio]

Not just me lol

[small osprey]

and mr1111

and lastly me

[drifting garnet]

@muted patio @stoic island @small osprey tysm

[muted patio]

now, get back in the BIOS and turn XMP and PBO on LOL

[small osprey]

xD

[zealous edge]

LMAO

[drifting garnet]

HAHA

[urban trellis]

Lmao

[drifting garnet]

Ok doing that now.

[zealous edge]

Honestly for me, going into bios is scary lmao

[small osprey]

why

[zealous edge]

Because of my first startup if u remember vint

My hard drive lmaoo

[small osprey]

just restart then CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK

[drifting garnet]

Anything to do with the bios will now be a traumatic experience.

[small osprey]

spam the del

[muted patio]

lol

[drifting garnet]

Ik, done it before.

[zealous edge]

my drive

[wanton cliff]

What do you mean

[urban trellis]

@drifting garnet do u have a msi mobo

[zealous edge]

I thought I broke it my deleting all partitions at first lmao

it wouldnt boot

[stoic island]

yw

[zealous edge]

Kept cycling back to BIOS

[stoic island]

@drifting garnet next time don't use beta bioses and use the bios to update bios :P

[drifting garnet]

Yes

I hate dragon center, will not be using that

[zealous edge]

lol

[drifting garnet]

In dragon center it said nothing about a beta.

[zealous edge]

Dragon center seems pretty cool ngl

[urban trellis]

Facts

[muted patio]

I mean, it's fine just don't update BIOS from within Windows

Never

Ever

[stoic island]

dragon center is doodoo

but yea

[drifting garnet]

Always use flash thing?

[muted patio]

Yes

[drifting garnet]

Ok

[small osprey]

use bios to update bios

[urban trellis]

Dragon centre sounds cool ngl

[drifting garnet]

Good to know.

[small osprey]

if u have flashback use it

[stoic island]

Real men always use flashback to update >:D

[zealous edge]

Lmao

Fr

[urban trellis]

Anyone gotta 3080 for sale

[muted patio]

Ahem

[urban trellis]

Im joking lol

[muted patio]

bet

[wanton cliff]

@zealous edge what did you mean by ‘it might be that then’ after I said what card I had?

[urban trellis]

If anyone got a 3080 I'm a pro scalper

[zealous edge]

That might be a hardware problem.

[fossil halo]

what happened

[wanton cliff]

Sapphire had high quality cards tho?

[zealous edge]

After the latest update they fixed it.

Nitro is good

Might just be that certain card

[wanton cliff]

Sapphire Nitro+ RX 5700 XT?

[zealous edge]

Because the new drivers fixed basically everything

[wanton cliff]

Mmmmmmno

Still having bad crashes under load

Especially while recording on OBS

[zealous edge]

Not sure then

[urban trellis]

@wanton cliff do u have a spare gpu

If you do then test that one on ur pc

To see if it still crashes

[zealous edge]

Ur pc Crashes????

Or ur game?

or OBS?

Or what?

[wanton cliff]

Everything does

Every window turns white and I have to reset my PC

Also get a notification from Adrenalin detecting a driver-related crash

[urban trellis]

Try taking out your gpu and plugging it back in

Oh

[drifting garnet]

IM SCARED

[wanton cliff]

Done that like 3 times

[zealous edge]

Idk then

Ive recorded on OBS

[urban trellis]

Idk

[muted patio]

You don't have a riser card do ya?

[wanton cliff]

Had to replace my mobo a few days ago

Still having same problems

[urban trellis]

I've recorded on 4k on my 1y60 ti no crashes

1660

[wanton cliff]

Me?

[small osprey]

overclock

[muted patio]

yes

PCI-E extension?

[zealous edge]

Jayz problem, haha

[muted patio]

No

Industry wide problem

I ran into it myself

[zealous edge]

Ah

[drifting garnet]

What is HD Audio Controller that was not there last time.

Should I enable it?

[muted patio]

Onboard sound

Yes you should

and install the drivers for it

[fossil halo]

OH NONONONONOOO if he has realtek problems

i will run

far

[muted patio]

Might be GPU though

Cuz that's a thing too

[fossil halo]

very very far very far

[wanton cliff]

No, connected directly to the 16x slot

[muted patio]

Try this

Go to BIOS

[drifting garnet]

I already installed the audio drivers

[muted patio]

Force PCI-E slot into x3 mode instead of Auto

@wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

How do I do that?

[muted patio]

In the ASUS Bios

[wanton cliff]

Ok

Lemme see

[muted patio]

Can't remember exactly where

Long shot but you never know

[drifting garnet]

Like my laptop, there will be horrible static sometimes. I have to re install the driver every time this happens. Haven't occurred on my new pc tho.

[fossil halo]

oof

i just hate realtek

when it works

i happy

when it not work

i not happy

and when i try fix i want to end it all

its funny how that heppens every time i try to fix realtek

[elder estuary]

Hey guys so I’m trying to put my pc together and I was wondering if you can help. So the cooler isn’t fitting. As you can see the backplate from the motherboard it came with doesn’t match the backplate from the cooler I bought. Any ideas?

[muted patio]

What cooler?

and CPU socket?

[fossil halo]

^^

[wanton cliff]

PCI Subsystem Settings?

[muted patio]

I believe so yes

[zealous edge]

Looks like AM4

[muted patio]

Well, the original backplate is yeah

[zealous edge]

Yea

[muted patio]

Need to know what cooler

[muted patio]

That's x570 yeah?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

TUF

[muted patio]

TUF?

Hmmmm

[elder estuary]

So I got the CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler and the motherboard is the ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus

[wanton cliff]

What’s your question exactly

[hollow grail]

they flexin on u

[wanton cliff]

RGB controller is at bottom of board

[hollow grail]

[wanton cliff]

Fan control top right I think

[muted patio]

Use the stock backplate @elder estuary

The all metal solid one

The X is for Intel

https://www.corsair.com/corsairmedia/sys_master/productcontent/WW_iCUE_H100i_H115i_H150i_Elite_Capellix_QSG_Web_AA.pdf

[fossil halo]

corsair doesnt have a display aio

[muted patio]

Page 12 for AMD installation

[fossil halo]

sads

then gigabyte's display aio sucks

[zealous edge]

Nzxt kraken z series

[fossil halo]

and asus one only works with asus mobo

kraken

makes

ur wallet

[elder estuary]

@muted patio the brackets it came with doesn’t match the OEM backplate

[fossil halo]

turn

into

watert

vapour

[muted patio]

Brackets go on the Pump

[stuck gull]

Could anyone reccomend a gaming pc build roughly at 1000$ canadian? and perferbly upgradble

[drifting garnet]

What mode is the best?

[muted patio]

Ok, so this is how that pump works

Reinstall the backplate AND the plastic brackets with clips onto the motherboard

Then use this mounting system on the pump

[wanton cliff]

Upgradeability is dependent on motherboard. If you want something that you can upgrade for a few years, wait for AM5 and Ryzen 6000 CPUs to come out.

[elder estuary]

@muted patio ok I think I got it. Hold on

[dull reef]

i have a b450 tomohawk with cooler master sickleflow argb idk how to setup the rgb on the fans through my motherboard i’ve looked at controllers but don’t know which one will work?any help

[wanton cliff]

Most RGB controllers are at the bottom of the board

[stuck gull]

Oh okay then thats fine

[zealous edge]

I have that same fan, sickle flow 120 aRGB?

[dull reef]

yup my motherboard only has jrgb headers on my board

[wanton cliff]

It’ll be about a year (maybe a few months less)

[stuck gull]

I'm probably not going to upgrade it but I was just seeing just in case

[hollow grail]

yeah ryzen 6000 will b cut

e

[muted patio]

@wanton cliff You might need a BIOS update but it should be under Advanced - Advanced/Onboard Devices Configuration

[wanton cliff]

I’ll get a flash drive

[dull reef]

i believe one of these controllers would work the fans are 3 pin any suggestions

[muted patio]

You need a different fan

aRGB is 5 volt

RGB is 12 volt

They aren't cross compatible

[rotund leaf]

quick question, is the only reason people say get the Team MP34 the cost per GB? or are they super fast as well?

[muted patio]

3 pin = 5 volt, 4 pin = 12 volt

Cost/performance ratio is nice

[dull reef]

so

there is no way for my argb fans can be controlled through my motherboard with any form of controller

[drifting garnet]

After that painful bios update, at least my system boots faster now.

Lol

[small osprey]

its p fast as well

[muted patio]

no. It's 12 volt vs 5 volt

[drifting garnet]

I have this

[muted patio]

3 pin vs 4 pin don't interchange

[drifting garnet]

I have the mp34

[dull reef]

so there’s no possibility

[rotund leaf]

compared to a PCIE 4.0?

[muted patio]

No

PCI-E 4.0 NVME is pointless right now

Just stick with 3.0

My 3.0 drives

[small osprey]

its uh around 3000 mb/s up down

[hollow grail]

cheap and good enough

[small osprey]

yea

[muted patio]

Cost/performance ratio is nice for the MP34 right now

[hollow grail]

pcie4 is pointless unless u like seeing big number go up

[dull reef]

also is mounting radiator on top of case rather than front benifitcal

[verbal quarry]

what is a good aio brand

[muted patio]

It CAN be beneficial

[small osprey]

7000 mb/s

[muted patio]

Main point is to keep the tubes Above the level of the pump

So you don't trap air

[wanton cliff]

this the correct one?

[hollow grail]

my drives kill that

[hollow grail]

beta bios

[small osprey]

what

what are your speeds

[wanton cliff]

so no

[hollow grail]

13000mb/s i think

or close to that

[small osprey]

jeez

what drive is that

[hollow grail]

4x nvme in raid 0

[small osprey]

bruh

lmao

[hollow grail]

theyre cache

[wanton cliff]

i need that lol

[small osprey]

speeeeed

[hollow grail]

owo

[wanton cliff]

4 980s or whatever in RAID0

[hollow grail]

ill run u a vm on it

these are seagate enterprise drives

[wanton cliff]

ew seagate

[dull reef]

@muted patio what fans that can be controlled through my motherboard do you recommend

[hollow grail]

they make some gr8 ent ssds

better than wd

[dull reef]

@muted patio b450 tomohawk max

[wanton cliff]

anyways is this correct

[muted patio]

I'm not an RGB person, sorry. I don't know what RGB products are good or bad

[wanton cliff]

or should I find another one

[hollow grail]

beta bios bad

[muted patio]

No, that's Beta

one befor ethat

[hollow grail]

almost like i said that like 10 messages ago

[wanton cliff]

dont see another bios

[muted patio]

wat

[hollow grail]

hurry uppppppp

[muted patio]

Click down arrow lol

[wanton cliff]

oh wait

nvm

which one should I download?

[dull reef]

rgb is so confusing

[muted patio]

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/TUF_GAMING_X570-PLUS/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-ASUS-3001.ZIP

RGB is confusing

aRGB vs RGB, 3 pin vs 4 pin

[hollow grail]

sketchy link

[muted patio]

I dislike it a LOT

[wanton cliff]

what did I just download

[hollow grail]

the bios

[wanton cliff]

huh

[hollow grail]

from the asus cdn

thats how cdns work

[muted patio]

Yup

[dull reef]

the market for rgb is so dumb

i just want to control my fans color lol

[hollow grail]

they just direct you to the url of the file

which then downloads

literally stopped linking cdn downloads because people were stupid and were like wtf so sketchy

[muted patio]

I mean, it's a direct download link

I make it easy

[hollow grail]

when i only linked the download because i knew they were too dumb to find the button lol

yeah

[wanton cliff]

ok so I downloaded it on C:. Should I send it to the flash drive then?

[hollow grail]

now that i have yelo name im gonna do it again

[muted patio]

Yes and unzip it too

[wanton cliff]

ok

should I just unzip it on the flash drive or send both files to the flash drive

[muted patio]

Send both

Can't remember if ASUS wants zipped or not

[wanton cliff]

when your transfer speeds off your flash drive are only 15 MBps

[hollow grail]

speed

writes on usb drives are awful almost universally

[wanton cliff]

im talking about read

[hollow grail]

babe get a better usb

samsung bar is like $15

[wanton cliff]

so now I just plug the flash drive into my (off) pc?

[muted patio]

Yes

Boot to BIOS

[wanton cliff]

oh wait

need to unzip lol

[muted patio]

use EZFLASH in bios

[hollow grail]

ezpz

[hollow grail]

[muted patio]

its fine

[wanton cliff]

ok

tfw she actually ejects the hard drive through software first

[hollow grail]

true gamers yank it mid transfer

[wanton cliff]

while its flashing

kill the mobo lol

where is EZFLASH

[deft geyser]

How terrible would it be to run an Rx 560 on a 240w psu?

[muted patio]

rough

[stoic island]

bios

[muted patio]

more to the point

[wanton cliff]

almost undoable

[muted patio]

The board may not supply the required power through the PCI-E slot for the card

[wanton cliff]

most ive seen through PCIe on a single mobo is 30w

[deft geyser]

Welp looks like I'm upgrading psu too. Sorry wallet

[muted patio]

Usually 240W is a prebuilt older Dell or HP

[deft geyser]

Yeah I got my hands on an enterprise pc that I'm putting in a new case and putting a gpu on it

[hollow grail]

75w thru pcie

is the spec

[wanton cliff]

In practice I mean

[muted patio]

Some stuff though is only 35W

Typically enterprise/low end Dell and HP

[rotund leaf]

ok, assuming I need more space in an m.2 then the MP34 currently has, are there any brands to stick to/away from? I typically pick up Samsung SSDs

[viral ore]

what do you need more than 512gb of ssd for?

[wanton cliff]

How much does the MP34 have?

[viral ore]

waste of money imo

[rotund leaf]

1TB is the biggest

[hollow grail]

samsung is god tier but u dont rly need more than 1tb

[viral ore]

why you need more than 512gb?

[pine kayak]

1tb ssd is not a waste of money

[rotund leaf]

well, when its my games drive, I do not really want to ahve to keep moving games on and off of it.. Arc and DCS are over 400GB at the moment

[viral ore]

get a 2TB HDD

toss all your games on it

problem solved

[pine kayak]

if he has the money for 1tb ssd why not

[rotund leaf]

that defeats the whole purpose..

[pine kayak]

after he can always buy an other 1tb

[viral ore]

purpose of what?

[rotund leaf]

having fast drives for load times

[viral ore]

so you cant wait 10 extra seconds for your games to load?

[pine kayak]

if you have the money go for it

[viral ore]

and your gonna spend an extra 50 dollars?

[wanton cliff]

More like 2 minutes more

[pine kayak]

ssd now are cheap

[viral ore]

on a brand new HDD? no, not at all

[wanton cliff]

Games like Rust, for example, take about 5 minutes to load on even a 980 pro

[rotund leaf]

its way more then 10seconds

[wanton cliff]

Imagine that on an HDD

[pine kayak]

if he has the money why buy hdd

[viral ore]

i mean hey, you can buy whatever you want, but obviously im going to reccommend the common sense option

[pine kayak]

hdd is great for budget build

[wanton cliff]

Which this is not

[viral ore]

ive got 6TB of HDD in my desktop

[pine kayak]

but on high end build sdd is the way

[viral ore]

along with my SN750

[wanton cliff]

4tb here. Also 2 tb of SSD

Don’t even use the HDD

[muted patio]

500 GB NVME is $50

[pine kayak]

6tb is over kill for game storage and files

[muted patio]

should be in every biuld, OS and a few games

[viral ore]

boy you just love making assumptions

[rotund leaf]

I've got 9 in mine, but its mostly cold storage/backups. I want to move away from spindles and go to SDDs, and have my OS and current games on NVME

[pine kayak]

not everybody needs 6tb

[viral ore]

once again, totally up to you how you spend money, but im not gonna tell you to spend lots of money on ssd

so Im gonna continue to recommend 512gb SSD + however much HDD you need

if you dont want that, then get whatever you want

[pine kayak]

im not saying its bad but on high system most people have the money to go full ssd

so i dot se why cheep out

[viral ore]

and its usually unnecessary

more of a flex

HDDs are simply fast enough in most instances

assuming you have an SSD with OS and programs on it

[pine kayak]

yeah but ssd loading time in some game is not always negligeable

[viral ore]

yes yes, we get it, you're impatient

[pine kayak]

its always depends on people's use case anyway

[viral ore]

also keep in mind that 2TB HDD is 55, 2TB SSD is like 200

[pine kayak]

most people dont care paying more on high end

[viral ore]

going all SSD simply isnt cost effective

[pine kayak]

yes

[small osprey]

best amount of ssd is 500gb

enough for os and some games

not too expensive

[viral ore]

paying more because you have the money for it is the dumbest thing ive ever heard

[rotund leaf]

can we just go back to my actual question, "assuming" i need more then 1TB in an NVME drive, are there brands to stick to, or run away from?" (I know IlIl replied)

[viral ore]

samsung always the safe bet

[small osprey]

uh samsung is good

[pine kayak]

yeah

[small osprey]

so is wd

[viral ore]

WD has good SSDs

i use the SN750

iirc it has a 2TB option (not that i would recommend it)

[small osprey]

sn750 is good

[viral ore]

https://www.amazon.com/Black-SN750-NVMe-Internal-Gaming/dp/B07M9VXSXG

of course, you're looking for a game drive, not an OS and program drive

[pine kayak]

i have the sn550 and its great

but its slower

[fossil halo]

i have sp a60 lmao

it does what i ned it to do

[viral ore]

SN550 would be a good choice for a game drive

[pine kayak]

yeah no need to go faster for gaming

[little osprey]

sn550 is pretty enough to games

[viral ore]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0896SKCDY

[pine kayak]

doesnt do much of a difference

[rotund leaf]

it could be both depending on things (OS/Prog/games or OS Progs/Games etc etc)

[fossil halo]

get a sata ssd for games

much cheaper

[little osprey]

no

[fossil halo]

and still good enough for games

[pine kayak]

not in canada

[viral ore]

get a 512gb ssd for OS and programs, get another ssd for stateless data, such as games

[fossil halo]

like have main stuff on nvme

[pine kayak]

its almost the same price

[little osprey]

sn550 have same price as sata xd

[fossil halo]

wow

[pine kayak]

yeah

[fossil halo]

canada is funny

[pine kayak]

sata is dumb

[fossil halo]

it is but its also cheaper

[viral ore]

sata is not dumb

[fossil halo]

better value as secondary drive

shouldn't boot off anything except an nvme

tho

[little osprey]

1tb samsung evo 860 is 109$ while i got sn550 for 100$ 😂

[fossil halo]

LOL

[pine kayak]

look

same price

[fossil halo]

thats funny

[viral ore]

ok and?

so in this specific instance, sure

but not everyone has an M.2 slot

[pine kayak]

i dont understand why buy sata

ok

[small osprey]

sn550 isnt that great

dramless

[rotund leaf]

that's close to what I currently have, I didnt mention that this is my 10 year build (that is, I build a PC that should last me 10 years w/ little to no upgrades (aside video card) and it worked well on my old system. I might just stick w/ that format on this one then, and just double my OS drive and Program drive

[pine kayak]

but its better than sata

[little osprey]

no it isnt but its pretty enough

[viral ore]

its the best, sensible config. you want expensive, quality ssd for OS, programs, and important files, and what is typically regarded as mediocre ssd for things that arent important, like game files, which can easily be redownloaded should the ssd crap out

[fossil halo]

bc its usually cheaper lmao its not in ur case

if its not cheaper go for nvme no brainer

[hollow grail]

have never seen a sata drive thats over 10usd cheaper than a nvme in a sane market

[fossil halo]

wait

no

i think u can get a good sata 1tb ssd for like 80

[pine kayak]

its in canadian guys

[viral ore]

the difference between sata and nvme drives in this case is literally the shape of the PCB and the onboard controller

thats it

they are practically identical

[muted patio]

Yep, M.2 Sata is still sata

[viral ore]

oh yeah, SN550 is still sata based lmao

[fossil halo]

lol

[fleet pagoda]

I found a site w a cheapish 240hz monitor its called alibaba has anyone heard of it

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

[fleet pagoda]

👺👎

[viral ore]

dont pay more than like 20 dollars for things on alibaba

[fossil halo]

SECOND BIGGEST ECOMMERCE COMPANY IN THE WORLD

[fleet pagoda]

Wha

[fossil halo]

has anyone heard of it

[fleet pagoda]

I havent

[fossil halo]

LOL

imagine

[rotund leaf]

"easily re-downloaded" for me isn't all that easy. I have a very slow connection here (not even 5mbps)

[pine kayak]

i found a cheap rtx 2080ti on wish anyone heard of this site ?

[fossil halo]

nope

never

[fleet pagoda]

No

[blazing aurora]

ehhhh i wouldn't trust wish

at all

[fossil halo]

LOL who would

[rotund leaf]

wishful thinkers?

[fleet pagoda]

Do 240hz monitors exist for 200$?

[blazing aurora]

@fossil halo do you really have a 3700x with a gt710

[pine kayak]

they are spamming me and instagram wish

[fossil halo]

i found this i9 10900k 3090 ti gaming pc on this site called etsy should i get it

[blazing aurora]

lol

[fossil halo]

yes lmfao is there something wrong with that

[viral ore]

doesnt really change your storage options. i mean, its not like the ssd is gonna give out after a few months with all your games on it, because even though it has a much lower write endurance, you wrote to the drive once with all your games, and thats about it

[blazing aurora]

just asking

[little osprey]

dd

[rotund leaf]

true true

[fossil halo]

very good gpu

i get 900 fps in fortnite so i can crank 90s like ninja

and hit snipes like tfue

[small osprey]

ew fortnite gamer alert

[fossil halo]

and i can do fortnite dances

[small osprey]

[viral ore]

dont know if you saw it, but https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0896SKCDY is a really cheap 2TB NVMe ssd, should do just fine for holding 2TB of games lol

[blazing aurora]

cranking 90s at 10fps

[fossil halo]

LOL

[blazing aurora]

that's a 1080, not a 2080

[pine kayak]

what a great deal

i know

[rotund leaf]

Nope, Missed that in all the "you dont need but you dont need" messages LOL

[blazing aurora]

there's not even a price

[pine kayak]

but i also got 2080ti

[viral ore]

lmao

[fossil halo]

i have a 4090ti

[viral ore]

its not only the cheapest, but is TLC, and supports HMB

[fossil halo]

the system jsut recognizes it at a gt 710

its super slim form facotr

[pine kayak]

did you buy it on wish ?

at 60%

[fossil halo]

my 4090ti

[oak jay]

Is installing a WiFi card just play and play or does it require some setup?

[fossil halo]

it is play and play ofc

LMFAO

jkjk idk

look it up

on

this thing

called

[pine kayak]

its anorexic

[oak jay]

Google

[fossil halo]

g o o g l e

[oak jay]

Google

[fossil halo]

ur fast

[small osprey]

needs bios setup i think

[fossil halo]

lmfao

[oak jay]

Lol

[fossil halo]

my mobo comes with one built in so cant be bothered to find out

[pine kayak]

isnt integrated graphics better than a 710

?

[muted patio]

Dpends

[pine kayak]

oh ok

[fossil halo]

yes

[little osprey]

gt 710 might be better than like UHD from intel
but vega is better than 710

though lacks a proper encoder

[pine kayak]

the bottle neck of your pc is huge @fossil halo

[fossil halo]

dude wdym

[viral ore]

"bottleneck"

[fossil halo]

i have the best gpu in the market with a okayish cpu

cpu bottleneck yea i do have

[pine kayak]

go on wish thay have great sale

[fossil halo]

why would i need to tho

i already have a 4090ti

basically

what they did

[pine kayak]

oh right i forgot

[fossil halo]

is it has like this special type of vram

[pine kayak]

you should be ok for the next 4 years then

[little osprey]

Will Corsair A500 clear trident z ram

[fossil halo]

its really low in quantinty but with ai technology it makes the 2gb gddr5 onboard into 69,420 gb gddr69

and also due to this, the onboard technology is really low poer so it is passive cooled

[pine kayak]

nice

[little osprey]

Please ping me if you have a response.

[deft geyser]

another question, Will a Dell optiplex 7010 board fit into an ATX case? and if not, can i convince the case to hold it with a dremel or hand drill?

[little osprey]

uh yes...1050 ti with VGA for a 50$

pretty good deal if you ask me

[fossil halo]

LOL

[dull reef]

i only have jrgb headers anyway i can control the rgb with a software

[fleet pagoda]

How should i go about trying to get a 240hz monitor for 200$

🥺🤷🏿‍♂️

[pliant lake]

best you can do is 144hz, but with a budget increase you can get more, what is your GPU?

[fleet pagoda]

3070 lol i have a 144hz rn

[pliant lake]

i would do 144hz 1440p

[wanton cliff]

240hz for under $200 is nigh impossible

[stoic island]

you should go about getting another 100$
or get comfy with ebay, craigslist, or fb marketplace and pray

[fleet pagoda]

💔💔

Dis aight

[marble hedge]

specs

Mmmm

I mean you going for 1080p gaming?

The nits are a little low for my liking, its VA so its midrange color, midrange refresh

For the price though...

240hz, I would call this a cheap entry right there to high refresh

240, while its a bit over 200, is still really reasonable

[timber isle]

so

I have an msi mobo and a lian li lancool mesh 2 rgb

how do I connect the rgb fans in a way that I can control the lighting with msi software

as opposed to the buttons on the case

anyone

[wanton cliff]

G H O S T P I N G

[marsh kiln]

What is better a gtx 1050, a gtx 1050 ti, or a gtx 1650?

[eager flower]

1650 by far

[next kestrel]

not by too much

[marsh kiln]

Ok thanks I will go with that then

[formal cosmos]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hsxbt6/adata-xpg-spectrix-d60g-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-ax4u320038g16a-dt60 is this ram good?

[wanton cliff]

by far

[wanton cliff]

yes

although you can get better

[formal cosmos]

my budget is under $80

[wanton cliff]

I know

[formal cosmos]

and i need to buy the ram now

[junior crescent]

Could someone make a Gaming and streaming pc for 2000-2100 Australian Dollars in the Corsair Crystal 280x Non RGB MicroATX Mid tower
White

[wanton cliff]

remind me: are you on a Ryzen or Intel system?

jaden

[formal cosmos]

ryzen

[wanton cliff]

One second

[wanton cliff]

what CPU?

[formal cosmos]

ryzen 5 3600

[wanton cliff]

why does it have to be in that tower?

[wanton cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882

[formal cosmos]

thank you

[junior crescent]

then is the Corsair 4000D Airflow white good??? @wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

yes

much better actually

[junior crescent]

Then could you build it in that case

[fallen lake]

Hey I have all the parts put should something be on the screen of I turn it on ?

[wanton cliff]

the problem with the other one was that it was MicroATX, which is small and hard to find parts for these days

[wanton cliff]

Where did you plug it in to? The HDMI/ DisplayPort cable that is

[wanton cliff]

what is the conversion from AUD to USD?

[long dock]

1 AUD per .77USD

[fallen lake]

Hdmi cord

[wanton cliff]

into where though

your motherboard or your graphics card

[fallen lake]

The motherboard

[wanton cliff]

plug it into your graphics card

[long dock]

MoBo port is only if you have integrated Graphics on your processor 🙂 it's always better to use graphics card if you have it, and not all processors have Integrated Graphics.

[little osprey]

Lmao

[wanton cliff]

my friend with a GT 710 is laughing

[long dock]

ok, ALMOST always better, rofl..

[wanton cliff]

who is the best nvidia GPU manufacturer?

EVGA?

[stoic island]

EVGA warranty wise

[wanton cliff]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MQRZGq

[marsh kiln]

I have a video card that makes integrated graphics look like a rtx 3090

[wanton cliff]

a bit overbudget but I can bring it down, Chika

[wanton cliff]

lmao which card

[long dock]

haha still using AGP, @marsh kiln ?

[marsh kiln]

Hang on let me find the pic of it

[wanton cliff]

@fallen lake is it working now?

[fallen lake]

@wanton cliff it my guys project so he won't let me touch it

[marsh kiln]

This is the card I am talking about

[wanton cliff]

Do you know if his problem has been solved?

[wanton cliff]

dont even recognize it

Geforce 3?

[marsh kiln]

I also have

[wanton cliff]

that looks intel

[wanton cliff]

picture doesnt tell me much

everything looks to be plugged in correctly

[junior crescent]

What's a good motherboard for the 5600x

[wanton cliff]

didnt I make a list for you already?

[long dock]

B550 or X570 for sure...

[wanton cliff]

but, to answer your question, any B550 or X570 motherboard above $130 US

[unborn flicker]

So quick question I just did a build about 3 months ago in 10700k 1tb nvme and 2tb nvme drive 64gigs corsair vengance 3600mhz ram Nvidia 2080super 850 corsair fully modular gigabyte z490 vision d mobo and all of asunder from time to time if I leave it running for like 5 hours or so it becomes non responsive like task manager dont work cant minimize nothing ect... ive ran chkdsk and memory test everything comes back good and the cpu temp is good and gou temp never passes 50c any ideas

[wanton cliff]

I reccommend TUF B550 for it's bios flashing without CPU

[wanton cliff]

damn sexy build

[unborn flicker]

Ty

[long dock]

ikr? i want that, unresponsive or not

[unborn flicker]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

wasted money on the RAM though

[stoic island]

windows being wacky

[wanton cliff]

considering Intel doesnt support anything above 3000mhz right now

[wanton cliff]

my conclusion as well. perhaps a reinstall is in order?

[long dock]

yeah should havfe gone with 3200

[unborn flicker]

I have plans to upgrade the cpu to 11th gen

[wanton cliff]

and that still wont support 3600mhz, only 3200

[unborn flicker]

So u think win reinstall?

[wanton cliff]

usually a last measure

did you check drivers and things first?

[unborn flicker]

Yea all upto date and reinstall just to be sure not corrupted

[wanton cliff]

odd

[long dock]

5 hours, though.... hmmm, can't think of what could cause that... other than a) windows trying to access something it can't anymore.... or b) windows..... or c) Microsoft....

[wanton cliff]

I think probably A

something similar happened to me once

had to reinstall

[unborn flicker]

And it drives me nuts only abt 3 month old build lol

[wanton cliff]

save any important files on a flash drive

[long dock]

right

[wanton cliff]

format all your hard drives except the one windows is on

reinstall

[long dock]

it's a sexy 3 month old build, get it right, Joe lol

[unborn flicker]

Hahahha

And 3 27inch asus monitors to boot xD

[little osprey]

These are the parts that I have acquired so far based on recommendations from friends I know who built gaming PC's. I think I have only for more things I need to get left.

[wanton cliff]

makin me jealous

[wanton cliff]

which thing is that?

[long dock]

i have 3 24in cheap-o monitors lmao, they work but nothing like that

[wanton cliff]

I have 3 27" ''''''''''monitors''''''''

only one of them is a monitor

[long dock]

nice, Gatebox! loving what I see there

[wanton cliff]

the other two are 27" TVs from like 8 years ago

[gleaming quartz]

i have like 1 24" 4k monitor and one 27" 1080p "monitor" lol

[wanton cliff]

30hz, 1080p (but it looks like a downscaled version, more like 720p)

[long dock]

haha ok, well, i have ViewSonics... so....

[little osprey]

I have a Ryzen 9 3900x, x570 elite wifi Gygabite motherboard, Geforce RTX 2060 graphics card, G.Skill Xflare ram and Samsung vnand ssd 860 evo.

[dreamy lantern]

ow

[little osprey]

I also have the case

[long dock]

2060 might be underpowered for that 3900x

[wanton cliff]

what part are you waiting for?

[dreamy lantern]

how about a ryzen 5800x and a 1050ti

[long dock]

Power supply is missing

[wanton cliff]

ah

[little osprey]

I have heard that but people said it would still work and play VRChat.

[wanton cliff]

oooh vrchat

[long dock]

oh it will work, very well

[wanton cliff]

I can attest that it will, in fact, play VRChat... at 45 FPS

[unborn flicker]

Cringes at having to re dl 1.4tb steam games lol

[wanton cliff]

imagine only 1.4tb library

[little osprey]

I also want to make videos on the side.

[dreamy lantern]

i have 1tb drive

[wanton cliff]

this post was made by the 3tb gang

[unborn flicker]

I have another 2tb m.2 comming lmao

[wanton cliff]

nice

[long dock]

Should handle that, but the more videos you make and the higher the resolution, you may want to up your graphics card.. not that there's far to go from a 2060, but you know lol

[unborn flicker]

On-sale 50$ off lol

[shrewd geyser]

Hi guys, i'm going to be building a pc for the first time in a couple of days and i'm still clueless on a lot of things xD. Would anyone mind answering some questions I have?

[wanton cliff]

perhaps a 3080

[wanton cliff]

no problem

[long dock]

yeah, but those are leprechauns right now lmao @wanton cliff

[little osprey]

Well thank you for the advice I can upgrade the graphics card later probably.

[long dock]

oh yeah, easily

[unborn flicker]

My buddy scored a 3080 kingpin edition

[wanton cliff]

scalpers are starting to get bored

[long dock]

WHAT!?!?!

[unborn flicker]

Yes

[dreamy lantern]

?

[long dock]

how'd he score that, Joe?

[unborn flicker]

He payed however 2500$ for it

Ebay

[long dock]

jeez

[little osprey]

Do you guys want to see the case?

[unborn flicker]

New in the box

[shrewd geyser]

Thanks I appreciate it! So I already have all of my parts picked out and currently i'm wondering if my case fans will work. I ordered a corsair spec-delta case that comes with 4 fans and i'm wondering what i'll need to do to ensure that they work

[unborn flicker]

I was so jelly

[wanton cliff]

Don't buy from scalpers. Makes them think they can get away with what they are doing

[dreamy lantern]

3090?

[long dock]

i imagine so, Joe, but that's a LOT of money

[unborn flicker]

Im thinking while he's out of town swap my 2080super for it

He won't notice rite

Lol

[long dock]

shouldn't notice 😛

[little osprey]

Buying from scalpers let's them know that they've won and that they can get away with it again.

[unborn flicker]

Hahah

[wanton cliff]

all you need to do is plug them into the motherboard's fan headers. Depending on your motherboard, you might need some sort of splitter (usually included with large fan packs, i think)

[unborn flicker]

How much are to 3080 kingpins Murphy im not even sure

Msrp

[little osprey]

Here's my PC case by the way.

[wanton cliff]

usually around $700-900

[long dock]

how's the airflow on that, Gatebox?

[wanton cliff]

i dont quite remember MSRP

[shrewd geyser]

Alright I have a motherboard with 1 cpu fan header and only 1 system fan header. I was curious if that would be a problem since the case has 4 fans. 3 front and 1 rear

[unborn flicker]

Oooof thats crazy

He spent way to much then

[wanton cliff]

what motherboard?

[little osprey]

If I remember I think it has 6 fans that it comes with

[unborn flicker]

Lol

[long dock]

yeah but Fans aren't the only indication of airflow... location of and size of the air vents also makes a big difference

[shrewd geyser]

this one - Gigabyte H410M S2H Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

[desert gulch]

Yee

[wanton cliff]

Ironic that an Intel motherboard would only have 1 fan header...

ofc

[desert gulch]

Is that for the cpu fan?

[long dock]

Intel mobo has fan headers? 😛 jk

[little osprey]

Let me take a close picture and see if I can point out where all the fans are.

[unborn flicker]

I like my coolermaster hp500 case nice airflow on it

[desert gulch]

Or does it have one for a chassis fan too?

[wanton cliff]

1 cpu fan header, one case fan header, according to him

[desert gulch]

Oof

Don't they make like fan hubs

That are powered off psu

[little osprey]

Oh and my Ryzen 9 comes with an additional fan.

[wanton cliff]

yeah i think

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[wanton cliff]

CPU Cooler*

[desert gulch]

Then ig that could work

[little osprey]

Yeah

[long dock]

yeah, but you really should think about changing that CPU cooler out for a more powerful one..

[wanton cliff]

A wraith won't be able to cool that 3900x well enough tho

[stoic island]

prism should do for stock

[wanton cliff]

for now

[stoic island]

ofc it won't do for oc

[little osprey]

Really? Ok I could look into a better fan. Thanks for the information.

[wanton cliff]

i would go for a 240mm at some point in the future tho

or an Assassin 2

[long dock]

not fan, CPU Heat Sink

[stoic island]

Meh, good air cooler is great

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[long dock]

yeah, even better would be an AIO

[desert gulch]

No

Air cooler better value

[stoic island]

Fuma 2 once it's back in stock for 60$ would be nice

[wanton cliff]

EK AIO or DeepCool Assassin III

[long dock]

not if you OC a 3900, Ryan

[desert gulch]

Scythe mugen 5 is good too right?

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff why the Assassin II?

[desert gulch]

For like 50

[little osprey]

Sorry I'm new to PC building I'm going to mix up the correct terms for a while until I get more experience.

[wanton cliff]

good cooler imo

[stoic island]

you mean III?

[wanton cliff]

ooop

yeah

[stoic island]

Assassin 3 is good but forgot pricing

[long dock]

you're fine, Gatebox 🙂 i could give you a few channels I watch

[stoic island]

another near d15 tier cooler

[desert gulch]

Bequiet makes some good stuff

Like dark rock 4

[little osprey]

I already watch Linus Tech Tips

[desert gulch]

If you looking to go all out

[wanton cliff]

the D15 is really good, right?

[long dock]

eh, linus.........

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[wanton cliff]

linus is ehhhh

[desert gulch]

One of the best

[long dock]

agreed, Sara

[little osprey]

Oh?

[stoic island]

@little osprey Gamers Nexus over LTT any day for cooler testing xD