building-and-recc-chat

[short ruin]

yes

i just didn’t have it in in that photo

[oak harbor]

hi everyone im new here... need some help on getting a gaming p.c needs to have the 3090 and 5950 prebuild please help

[short ruin]

no

no prebuilt

[oak harbor]

why

[short ruin]

bc they had

prebuilt=bad

[oak harbor]

really

[short ruin]

you spend more money than you need to

[stoic island]

if you want to spend anywhere from 1000-3000$ overpriced

[small osprey]

Dont think thats even a prebuilt

[stoic island]

with the same risks of things being doa

[small osprey]

If it is thats def 5000$+

[muted patio]

Prebuilt doesn't automatically mean bad

[oak harbor]

anyone knows one

[small osprey]

Its just overpriced

[short ruin]

prebuilt is bad

[small osprey]

Not bad

[muted patio]

Not always, LTT did a video recently

[small osprey]

Just overpriced

[oak harbor]

im paying here

[small osprey]

Parts can be good

[muted patio]

SOme were at or below parts MSRP

just ayin

I'd have to rewatch to see the brands though

[short ruin]

some

[muted patio]

They did 8 different suppliers

[short ruin]

not all

[small osprey]

Just build ur pc

Much more worthwhile

[muted patio]

Building a PC isn't for everyone

So, remember that

[small osprey]

You learn something and save some money

[oak harbor]

true

[small osprey]

True

[stoic island]

@muted patio it's a little different for high end tbh

[short ruin]

i just built mine today and it’s pretty cool

[muted patio]

For sure it is

[stoic island]

Never seen a high end prebuilt that's not very overpriceed

[small osprey]

But if ur getting 3090+5950x

Thats a different story

[short ruin]

it was def nerve racking but it was fun

[stoic island]

like mid end, 1500$, there are some decent options

[muted patio]

Well, you pay for someone else to do it for you

If you aren't comfortable doing hard lines but can pay someone else, why not?

[small osprey]

Maybe some 10750h + 2060 would be ok

But the high end ones probably really overpriced

[short ruin]

@oak harbor how old r u

[oak harbor]

31

[short ruin]

damn

you’d be able to build your own pc

[oak harbor]

not want to bro

[muted patio]

Exactly

[oak harbor]

dont want to mess it up

[stoic island]

anyways

point is

[short ruin]

just watch a lot of youtube on it, it’s pretty easy

[oak harbor]

i rather buy it prebuild

[stoic island]

if you understand you're paying extra, and is fine with that, prebuilts are an option

[small osprey]

Why do u need 5950x and 3090

[short ruin]

lol

he wants to be ninja

[small osprey]

Maybe you could like ask someone to build for u

[oak harbor]

i really dont mine how much i pay bro just need one

[winged tinsel]

Do I install games on my 1tb ssd or 2tb hard drive?

[muted patio]

ssd if you can

[small osprey]

Then thats no probelm

Maybe u can go to a micro center and ask them to build

[oak harbor]

so dose anyone know where i can buy one

[small osprey]

Or anyone who u trust who knows how to build

Search around

Those parts are rather expensive

Not many prebuilts with those parts

[short ruin]

https://custombuild.overkillcomputers.com/collections/the-armory/products/vulcan

[muted patio]

iBuyPower has them too

https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-Gaming-Phoenix-Pro

[short ruin]

no

no ibuy power

iBuyPower=bad

[muted patio]

They want options, let them shop

[stoic island]

@oak harbor look around https://xoticpc.com/

[muted patio]

xotic is good yeah

[stoic island]

lili vouches for xotic's CS and quality so I'll take her word for it

[short ruin]

there’s also this

https://www.xidax.com/

[frozen junco]

what do you think of this build

[small osprey]

Where?

[frozen junco]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xk9vNP

ops

lol

[verbal quarry]

I mean you don't really need the cooler

Itll save you some money to put it somewhere else

[frozen junco]

ok

[muted patio]

That case also has really bad airflow

[frozen junco]

ok

[verbal quarry]

I can find you a case with some pretty good airflow

[frozen junco]

recomendation

[muted patio]

Getting there

Phanteks P360

[verbal quarry]

Thats a good one

[muted patio]

Fractal Meshify C

Phanteks P400A

[frozen junco]

ok thanks

[small osprey]

Corsair 275R

[stoic island]

CM TD500 mesh

CM H500

[muted patio]

Yeah, that's a bit more money though

[stoic island]

On the cheaper end, MX330-g air, MX410 mesh, neo air

[muted patio]

Trying to stay $80 ish

Oh wow

TD500 on sale $80

[stoic island]

really?

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-td500-argb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811119397?Description=TD500&cm_re=TD500-_-11-119-397-_-Product&quicklink=true

[stoic island]

thought it was 90

[muted patio]

$78.99 argb

[severe axle]

thats not the mesh one though

[muted patio]

AH, that's why it's on sale

[stoic island]

mhm

H500 was on sale for 80 a while ago tho

[frozen junco]

It does not matter to much

the air flow just has to be decent

[muted patio]

Anyone listed here then

[frozen junco]

ok

[bitter flint]

Hey, my beat headphones' mic seems to be inside the earmuff part instead of the little tab on the cord, where it indicates a mic should be. Has anyone run across that before?

[frozen junco]

my dads work computer died. There it guy could not get it to work. I am going to try it and then try to get him a decent prebuilt from work or have their it guy build one but I want like a base line of what it should be for him

[muted patio]

Oh just a work computer, not really for games?

[frozen junco]

but I want a descreate gpu

his old one was like a $1500 computer that was pretty good

[muted patio]

Gotcha

[frozen junco]

It is like 6 years old though

[drowsy dove]

Hey can anyone help me with graphics cards?

[muted patio]

If you can find a 5600X, this build is under $500 without a graphics card

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DBqQht

[drowsy dove]

I’m looking to get a new graphics card but I only have 300

[frozen junco]

ok

[jagged ember]

3600 is that still overpriced

Pcpp show no prices

[drowsy dove]

Is that a good budget graphics card?

[muted patio]

Probs out of stock

[jagged ember]

Heck

That's unfortunate

[severe axle]

and priced very bad

[jagged ember]

1650S I'd say

Or an rx580

[muted patio]

Hard part is finding one in stock

IMO, that 1650 is overpriced

[jagged ember]

The former if you stream

That one is overprices too tho yeah

[drowsy dove]

Okay, thank you. I’m just looking to get a new graphics card because right now my Pc has a cpu and the graphics card is built into it. So I just need anything better so I’m looking for suggestions 😂

[frozen junco]

at that point just wait for the 3050

[jagged ember]

Dude

It's not even announced yet

But, the waiting part is valid

[frozen junco]

good point

[muted patio]

Everything on Newegg seems to be overpriced and not from Newegg

Rough

[jagged ember]

Maybe it will come true

[uneven mist]

lmao this is funny bc im australian we have atleast afew 3000 gpus instock and we have plenty of 5000 series cpus

[frozen junco]

really

[uneven mist]

the only thing we are short of is like the new radeon gpus

[frozen junco]

show me

[uneven mist]

but we got all gpus in stock excspt for afew 3000 series

im on phone rn

so cant

[frozen junco]

ok

[grim fern]

is it just me or is there a delay when changing rgb settings on corsair vengeance pro ram?

[still bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795668007597637692/797287873397129238/image0.png what case is this

or a case like it

[stoic island]

cougar conqueror

[viral rover]

nice but cooling crap

[arctic jungle]

it's not bad..

[stoic island]

mhm

basically open air

[arctic jungle]

it is open air

[mortal void]

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0722WZJST?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[hollow grail]

literally an open air case cooling is great

[viral rover]

I agree my setup is a bunch of pc parts wired up together not in a case

Best cooling ever

doorbell button as the power toggle

rlly good

[thorny tusk]

Now that buttleg

[viral rover]

[little osprey]

i have 1660 ti ventus oc and intel i5 10600kf

[uneven mist]

u can always water cool it

[viral rover]

the shape is just really inefficient and unpractical. AND THINK ABOUT ALL THE DUST!

[next kestrel]

do you also yell at all sff builders

because they're wasting money

on expensive itx cases and psus

while getting worse temps

or open case users?

or people with test benches?

[hollow grail]

to be fair i yell at sff builders

where do the drives go

[next kestrel]

in the nvme slots

[hollow grail]

wrong

[next kestrel]

yes

[gusty jackal]

When you cheap out on a fan cooler because a AIO is too expensive, so shove your PC next to your mini fridge for extra cooling 👀

(Yes that's an empty case, waiting for my PSU and mobo to arrive, coming today)

[viral rover]

That's not how stuff works...

Your computer will be warmer then you would without being next to a mini fridge.

[gusty jackal]

It's a joke haha, I have nowhere else to put it

[viral rover]

As your mini fridge expells hot air not cold air (unless your mini fridge is total crap)

[viral rover]

No... you should put the pc inside the mini fridge

[gusty jackal]

exactly! I keep telling people this

Either way, my mini fridge vents upwards, my PC vents up and backwards

so it's ideal tbf

And tbf, I'm guessing my mini fridge insulation is crap because the sides are cool to touch (not cold, but cool)

So it actually would cool 1 side of the case

[dusk bluff]

Anyone have suggestions for good pcie wifi adapters for desktop?

[severe axle]

I hope this is a joke too

[hollow grail]

no his brain is just too fat for your mortal mind to comprehend

[severe axle]

oh yeah I forgot the fridge will watercool your cpu

[verbal quarry]

whats the required psu for a 3080

fe to be exact

[quasi snow]

nvidia recommends 750w

[little osprey]

Guys do y'all have the 30series cards still available in your country

[uneven mist]

im confused

[analog pulsar]

Hey

[warm swift]

@earnest olive ay you there?

[analog pulsar]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-rtx-3080-rtx-3070-custom-model-prices-unveiled/

Can I trust this site

[earnest olive]

@warm swift yeah

[warm swift]

which is better, gaming x trio, or suprim x? @earnest olive

[ornate solstice]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=06G-P4-1068-KR

is this a good gpu

planning on upgrading my pc i currently have an i3 8100 gt730 and a b360m mobo please help me upgrade it planning on only changing my gpu and psu

[bitter flint]

1660 Super is a good card. Ti would be better

[next kestrel]

that would be a super good upgrade from ur gt730

[pastel anchor]

Does anyone know if RGB on an MSI case (MPG Sekira 500x) could work with an Asus motherboard? (Crosshair VII hero) ?

[stoic island]

Well, it will be usable, but software might get a bit screwy

[pastel anchor]

Ehh, I'm a little late to the game, I got the Sekira and am only realizing after my build that "compatible" isn't all inclusive

[hollow grail]

openrgb

[glass harness]

yall i need to make sure there aren't any bottlenecks in the pc im gonna try to buy and build so ima give yall the parts list /CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 /GPU: an rtx 3070 (when i can get one) /RAM: 2 sticks of 4 slots (for future upgrade's) 16gb 3600mhz ddr4 /SSD: Crucial p5 1tb

cpu might be a little small

its an old list

added the 3070 recently

[pastel anchor]

thanks, I'll look into this

[hollow grail]

:)))

[earnest olive]

@warm swift doesnt ping if you edit it in later so i just saw this, anyways suprim x is higher end model

[warm swift]

ah dang

ik i keep saying that im buying the pc soon, but now i dont know when, because there are some problems with the 3080 in egypt

[uneven mist]

as far as ik your cpu should at least be a R5 3600x or a 5600x

[glass harness]

k ill wait for a chance to get the 5600x then

[little leaf]

@glass harness i doesnt matter

The 3600 will only have minimal bottle necks

[glass harness]

oh well i still have to wait for 3070 availability tho

[little leaf]

Someone did a test eith a 3600 and 3080

I found both of the products u talk about are fairly easy to get if you put your mind on it

[glass harness]

3070 be jacked in price tho

every where

and im not fast enough to catch them while there in stock

[little leaf]

Use instock trackers

[glass harness]

i have

i just cant finalize in time

[little leaf]

Use apple pay

One click

[glass harness]

i got no apple stuffs

[little leaf]

I see

Use pay pall

[glass harness]

i am i think its my internet

just not fast enough

by the time im there there out

ill try again soon tho

[still roost]

Bookmark#9190 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[blazing sky]

Whoops.

I am a first time builder and I have no idea what I am doing.

[stoic island]

And what do you need help with..?

[crude hazel]

Hey guys i got a 3090 and 5900x and was wondering if i OC 850w headroom wouldn’t be enough will it? Should I upgrade to 1000w or nah

[blazing sky]

Okay I think I have everything plugged in and everything looks good. (minus the Cable Management.) But it won't turn on.

[stoic island]

So what happens once you press the power button

[blazing sky]

Nothing. The Motherboard has power. I know because it has two lights go on. But when I push the botton nothing happens. No boot up beeps. The Heat sync fan doesn't start and nothing happens.

[stoic island]

@crude hazel you probably won't get any headroom for OCing gpu, just because of how high ampere likes to spike, but you might get some headroom with extra cpu clocks

@blazing sky what lights are on?

[blazing sky]

The Rainbow ones. That make the Motherboard look nice.

[stoic island]

Weird

Do they light up after you press the power button?

[crude hazel]

yeahh so im worried about that with 850, worth the upgrade to 1000+

[stoic island]

I mean, not really worth if you're dailying it

It's just 3090 spikes really high

Like average draw something like 400w, but spikes can get you to 600w and above

[blazing sky]

They go on as soon as I plug in the power supply

[crude hazel]

offt

[stoic island]

So I wouldn't feel comfy with OCing the gpu, but it'll daily just fine (OCing probably won't make your PSU OCP very happy)

@blazing sky hm, weird, but can you check the front io cluster on the motherboard, specifically if the power switch is connected to the right pins?

[crude hazel]

yeah daily use without OC im not worried, but when I oc i worry my butt. Should play it safe and get a 1000w psu

[stoic island]

Meh, OCing in general is pretty useless as just a way to gain performance if you have to spend a good amount extra for better hardware.

[blazing sky]

I checked them yes

Even disconnected them and flipped them around

[stoic island]

Back to the rgb turning on as soon as the PSU is on, that really shouldn't happen but I'm trying to think why it might happen

[blazing sky]

Do you need my parts list/.

[stoic island]

That might be useful

[blazing sky]

Post it here or DMs?

[stoic island]

Here should work

[blazing sky]

https://newegg.io/bc678c2

[stoic island]

Alright, had a look around the Mobo manual, what does it do if you manually started it by pressing the pwr_sw button on the top right of the motherboard?

[blazing sky]

Nothing.

[stoic island]

Great, guessing you checked power cables already?

[blazing sky]

Eyup. Both of them

[stoic island]

Also, which exact lights are coming on?

There are debug LEDs on there

[blazing sky]

Those two

[stoic island]

Welp, a reset cmos via battery wouldn't hurt until something is figured out
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

Still fairly confused on the Mobo LEDs just coming on once it's plugged in, before power button is pressed

[clever jetty]

guys what’s the best app to monitor cpu and gpu temps

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9QLnj2

opinions

@ me with a response!

that build

[little osprey]

1600af is...uh alright i guess, i would get intel but you make your choice there
the mobo seems overpriced
why there is a a400 there?
1050 ti is ovepriced and terrible for the value, i would take a look at used market instead.

Vrm?

eh, i would spend a little more on a better mobo tho

What kind?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BHBhP6/msi-b450-gaming-plus-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-plus-max

10 bucks more tho
but seems a better choice

[lucid karma]

Is it fine to pair the 3300x with a 2060/2060S? And is 550 watts enough

[little osprey]

it's not the best pair but i think thats ok
though i would go for a ryzen 5 though
as the cores might help in newer AAA games on where they benefit of the extra cores

also yes, 550w should be enough but depends on the PSU model aswell

[lucid karma]

Problem is Ryzen 5 3600 is almost double the price of the 3300X here

The psu is a CX550M 80 plus bronze, is it fine?

[little osprey]

well uh...should be

and you already got a AM4 mobo?

[lucid karma]

Yup

[strong bolt]

what is the recommended power supply for 5600x and 3070

[little osprey]

650-750 watts

@strong bolt for efficiency

[cloud oasis]

my friends 2070 super stopped working

when he turns it on

no fans spinning

lights on and no display

he thinks its psu

[little osprey]

My 2070 got fried 2 days ago massive F no idea why I'm assuming it was the sleeved extensions but im not sure still..
All on my birthday aswell :Bruh:

[regal sparrow]

Oh no

[hollow grail]

its why i dont use those $12 extensions

asking for a bad time

[regal sparrow]

Never go cheap on extensions

That happened to my friend last year and he lost his Pc

[final pawn]

Also, no, not TV, just large monitor.

[little osprey]

is the second pic THE GPU

[little osprey]

😱

[little osprey]

Yes indeed 🤧

[little osprey]

Sadly I got my pc from cyberpower originally and these were the extensions they had included. Sucks because it took 1 year and 3 months before any issues

[little osprey]

f

[sly minnow]

Hey can i have a help

My friend bought a prebuild pc from newegg

There is no name for the gpu brand

Wait i will send you the link

[muted patio]

You can't post links yet but I got it

[sly minnow]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala224/p/N82E16883360021

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala224/p/N82E16883360021

[sly minnow]

Yeah thats the one

Yeah

[muted patio]

You need drivers or something?

[sly minnow]

Ohhh

[muted patio]

Probably a Zotac or PNY

[sly minnow]

Pny

Probably a Zotac or PNY
@muted patio pny

[muted patio]

There ya go. What's the issue?

[sly minnow]

I saw pny is not good

[muted patio]

Not necessarily true

[sly minnow]

Is that true

Ahh ha

[muted patio]

They tend to not overclock as well as the others but a 3060TI is a 3060TI

It'll be just fine

[sly minnow]

Thnks for the help

[muted patio]

YW

@little osprey xotic PC, CyperPower, Origin, Maingear you can get that setup from a few different places if you want a prebuilt

Well

Different parts too

Ye, not bad

[final pawn]

So like I’m having issues now, my pc won’t even display to my monitor even though it was just doing so.

Nvm, got it.

[snow wagon]

Lol.

Anyway I was wondering. I’m about to basically be doing an entire system swap. I’m replacing everything except my GPU and ram(for now). Is there anything I should do with my old MoBo before I list it for sale? Do I need to clear cmos or something?

[muted patio]

no

Not the mobo

Only need to clean the drives if you're selling those

[wanton cliff]

he is probably thinking of XMP profiles or something with the person he is selling it to, messing up their RAM or something without them knowing what to do

[muted patio]

Ah, I mean, you could but

There's no identifying data if you're worried about that

[wet reef]

Ok guys I need help it’s my first time solo building a pc, I’ve got a motherboard with Sata 3 6gb ports, but my psu and the kraken z73 use the old larger sata heads what do I do? Is there a converter?

[muted patio]

Wait what?

The larger SATA stuff is power

The stuff on the motherboard is data

[wet reef]

How to I plug the Sata power to data?

[muted patio]

You DON'T

lol

Here

This is Sata power, for hard drives and things

This is data for drives ONLY

If you need the SATA power, it comes from the Power Supply

For the Kraken

[wet reef]

I have one of those for my kraken z73

Yeah I’ve done that

[wanton mauve]

Has anyone been experiencing long shipping times

[wet reef]

So I don’t need to plug into the mobo?

[muted patio]

Ok, the Sata on the motherboard is for drives

Like an SSD or Hard Drive

[wanton cliff]

for what exactly?

[muted patio]

If oyu have an M.2 drive, you don't need the motherboard sata

[wet reef]

Ok Thankyou! I have m.2 instead

[muted patio]

Ye

[wet reef]

Ok great was worried, couldn’t figure out how Sata linked to Sata 😂

[wanton mauve]

I ordered a prebuilt on Boxing Day and it’s now 3 days late from the last day on the range

[muted patio]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

where did you order it from

[wet reef]

At least I levelled up on here, thanks for your help ♥️

[muted patio]

Shipping times are delayed for many reasons, if you ordered from Newegg, DM NeweggService

YW

Come back if you have more questions

[wanton mauve]

Newegg.ca

[muted patio]

Yeah

[wanton cliff]

DM newegg service

[muted patio]

Please DM NeweggService

[wanton cliff]

Discord user here, company account

look to the right

[wanton mauve]

Ok thank you

[muted patio]

YW

[hushed juniper]

It's been recommended to me in the past to build from scratch vs part by part on an existing build but due to budget issues I've been doing the latter. I've recently purchased new RAM, and an SSD, and a friend is gifting a 2080 super that's about 3 months old once she finds a 3080. I have an i5 processor still am pretty sure the time to upgrade is coming soon. How much of a PITA is it to swap the processor (and obviously MOBO with it) to Ryzen?

[muted patio]

A little work in Windows

Not hard

Link Windows 10 to a Microsoft account

uninstall all old drivers and hardware

Install new part, boot back up, install new drivers

[wanton cliff]

and once windows deactivates, dont worry

[next kestrel]

you'd also have to take the entire thing appart

which is uhh

[muted patio]

10 minutes lol

[next kestrel]

ymmv

[hushed juniper]

I have no problem taking it apart, I expect and enjoy that part of it.

[next kestrel]

alright, then should be easy

[wanton cliff]

thats what I said 2 days ago lol

remember that?

[hushed juniper]

Thanks all, just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting into something that was a serious "NO!"

[muted patio]

Nah

Just a little work beforehand is all

[wanton cliff]

dont worry at all.

just gonna be some long and tedious work

make sure you keep everything organized, thats all

[muted patio]

With drivers and such, 20 minutes lol

[broken basin]

Would it be a bad idea to buy a used PSU

[muted patio]

Depends on how old it is

[broken basin]

Especially one used for mining

[muted patio]

Caps dry out over time which means the PSU doesnt provide it's full power

[broken basin]

Ahh

[muted patio]

So just as an example, a 700W psu after 3 years might only put out 650W or something

There's no set scale but they do degrade over time

[broken basin]

I see thanks

[muted patio]

YW

Best to buy new

Especially since the good ones come with a 5-10 year warranty

[oak jay]

I have an rtx 3060 ti, which takes two 6x2 connectors, I have a cable that is one psu end, then two 6x2 connectors, will that work or should I use two cables?

[muted patio]

Two cables is best if you can

It draws 200 watts, which is about the max one cable can supply

[small osprey]

One cable is ok, but its better to use two

[oak jay]

Ok I have another I’ll use both

Thanks

[small osprey]

np

[little osprey]

where i can buy 3060ti 🤔

[wanton cliff]

anywhere were there is a drop

oop

[wanton cliff]

sent you an invite to a server with a stock monitoring bot

[muted patio]

Nah

I got one Tuesday

[gleaming quartz]

dont worry hes lying

[muted patio]

Nope

[gleaming quartz]

its all a myth

[wanton cliff]

if you are trying to upgrade instead of build something new I would wait till Hopper comes out tbh

[muted patio]

Hopper is 2022 lol

[wanton cliff]

I thought they said sometime this year?

even so

[muted patio]

hopper is still a myth

Just a new architecture

Like AMD's new AM5

[verbal quarry]

hey whats a good cheap mesh case?

[small osprey]

Td500 mesh

[wanton cliff]

P400a

[muted patio]

P360A, P400

[small osprey]

Or lancool 2 mesh

[wanton cliff]

Meshify C

lovelace?

[muted patio]

yeah, IDK what that even is

[wanton cliff]

havent heard of it

[muted patio]

Mobiule APU's I think

[wanton cliff]

Sounds like the codename of a new xbox or something

[muted patio]

Oh I found an article

Rumor

Speculation

don't pay attention to it

[wanton cliff]

like Scorpio or Scarlett or Lockhart

[muted patio]

Exactly that, rumors

Cuz, those specs are now called Hopper lol

Until nVidia makes an official announcement, it's literally all rumor and speculation and shouldn't be trusted

[wanton cliff]

true, but they already booked TSMC's 5nm node

[muted patio]

Yeah but

Booking doesn't = product

[wanton cliff]

also true

I havent even heard the name Lovelace before

who was Lovelace?

[muted patio]

Eh

Rumor and speculation

Not to be trusted

[wanton cliff]

I've heard the name Ada as a pet name for robots

but not Lovelace

ah

she worked on the Analytical Engine

Just like 2000-series was named after Turing and 3000-series named after Ampere

and soon another thing named after Grace Hopper

[muted patio]

"Beware, this is entirely based on rumors, and with how little we know about Nvidia's next GPU architectures, there's a huge chance most of this info is wrong. But, at least this post can give us some clues as to where Nvidia is headed."

[wanton cliff]

Holy [EXPLETIVE DELETED]

dear god

i hope so

lol

[muted patio]

71% increase is not how things typically work

[wanton cliff]

just hope it is relatively cheap to manufacture

[wanton cliff]

not typically

[muted patio]

Typically it's 15-25% increase generation to generation

[wanton cliff]

but it can happen

[muted patio]

Not likely, at all

[viral ore]

the entire turing stack isnt even announced yet, that wont come until at least late 2022

[wanton cliff]

I like to hope

[muted patio]

Exactly Sassy

All this is just headline clickbait lol

Not really

2060 super vs 3060TI for example is about 20-25%

[wanton cliff]

Extremely

[viral ore]

once again, thats all just a bunch of rumors

about lovelace

[muted patio]

Hopper too

Literal clickbait 😉

[wanton cliff]

"Rumors and Speculation"

it'd be nice if it was real tho

might be able to run Cyberpunk

[muted patio]

Depends on which 2080

😉

TI, super or regular

[wanton cliff]

and might not be

[muted patio]

Exactly

[wanton cliff]

I wouldnt say 'yet'

[muted patio]

We don't even have the full Ampere lineup yet

[wanton cliff]

Like we've been saying, Rumors and Speculation

just Dust and Echoes on the internet

[muted patio]

SKU's don't mean products

[wanton cliff]

Prototype

Prototype

seeing how it might look on their website

possibly

JD do be typin doh

what he gonna say

[muted patio]

There have been leaks for a ton of products that are just vaporware

[mortal void]

question, would it be a good idea to order my build in pieces rather than full build all at once?
I'd only order some parts, I was thinking of getting my Case and Extra Fans, maybe Ram, 500GB sn750, PSU. I figure those are fine if warranty runs out before I can get the rest.

[mortal void]

MAYBE

[wanton cliff]

sure

[muted patio]

Nothing wrong with that

[wanton cliff]

best to wait for stock on some things

lol

me with a 3800x:

[verbal quarry]

https://newegg.io/0bc022f thoughts on this $600 build?

[mortal void]

uhhh old ass workstation that has ddr3 1600 and can't even overclock Ram or CPU because HP Sucks

[viral ore]

i3 10100 better and cheaper and in stock

[wanton cliff]

pretty gud

[muted patio]

N1 PSU

PLS now

*no

[mortal void]

I'd be able to get any of those. Everything is in stock ATM.

[muted patio]

"Tier E • Potentially dangerous in multiple scenarios"

EVGA N1

[wanton cliff]

imagine thinking that's the best CPU you can buy

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x/p/N82E16819113621

[mortal void]

but...

AMD

[wanton cliff]

DM me

again

imagine thinking that's the best CPU you can buy

[viral ore]

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

theres the best

3995WX

[mortal void]

speaking of OP CPUs, been playing E-Sports career on PCBS recently, and 2 of the madlads in the "Fortfight" Duos league had Intel X CPUs. It was a #BruhMoment for Me honestly

[muted patio]

The XE's?

[verbal quarry]

im not know in intel but whats a good motherboard for the i3 10100

that cheap

[viral ore]

anything really

get a b460 board tho

[verbal quarry]

the msi b460m pro sound good?

[viral ore]

should be fine, its not full mATX tho, so you just have to be careful installing the 24pin power

[wanton cliff]

wait

can Vintage ban me?

[verbal quarry]

what are some full mATX you know?

[viral ore]

the non full mATX boards are fine

[small osprey]

Yes

[viral ore]

you just have to put your fingers under the 24 pin connector when installing it

so you dont damage the board

[verbal quarry]

whats the rating of the gigabyte GP-p450B

[muted patio]

P650 is Tier C but can't find the P450b

[verbal quarry]

ok and what about the rosewill arc 450

[muted patio]

Tier D

[verbal quarry]

dang ok

[wanton cliff]

is there anything tier S?

[verbal quarry]

now im looking at a apevia atx-as450w

[wanton cliff]

never even heard of apevoa

[verbal quarry]

sorry apevia

[wanton cliff]

still

[muted patio]

I don't have much info on Apevia

[next kestrel]

apevia is decent

[muted patio]

Well

One model is Tier D

[little osprey]

thanks

[muted patio]

The other is C

so

[verbal quarry]

so would going the corsair cv450

be my best bet?

[muted patio]

That is better than all the other PSU's you've listed

[verbal quarry]

sweet thank you

[kindred iris]

What does hybrid mode do on a sea sonic psu

[muted patio]

I believe that's for the fan

quiet vs active

[kindred iris]

Ahh

[wanton cliff]

PSU fans are generally very quiet

relatively speaking

[muted patio]

Yep, not a fan of "quiet mode" PSU's

[small osprey]

Are ocz psus good

[muted patio]

heat bad

[small osprey]

I found one

In my basement

[muted patio]

OCZ is Tier C

[small osprey]

Hm

[muted patio]

Only one on the list

Well there's another one

Tier D

Cheat sheet

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[wanton mauve]

So i don't think Newegg has even shipped my computer

[wanton cliff]

psucultists? lol

[muted patio]

They do a LOT of testing

[wanton cliff]

the name is funny

[wanton mauve]

also @fresh garden is not responding

[muted patio]

Sorry, they're the only ones that can aswer you

There are no other employees here

[wanton cliff]

well

mike

[small osprey]

Taku

[muted patio]

Mike will say the same thing

[small osprey]

Pain

But they offline

[wanton cliff]

but he isnt one you should ask abt this

[next kestrel]

also newegg uses usps i believe

[muted patio]

UPS

[wanton cliff]

fedex

[next kestrel]

oh

[muted patio]

All kinds of shippers

[next kestrel]

yea then it might be an issue on thier end

[muted patio]

Or they're waiting for stock

hard to say

[wanton cliff]

stock? what is stock?

[next kestrel]

items that are available

[wanton mauve]

It says purolator and Canada post for me

[next kestrel]

so for instance, when microcenter says 10 3090's are in stock, it means 10 3090s available

[next kestrel]

you can try asking them if you have a tracking number

[verbal quarry]

hey looking at a evga 400 n1 whats the rating on this?

[wanton mauve]

when I use the tracking number given to me by newegg it says they can't find it and that I should ask the shipper if they have sent it

[muted patio]

Tier E

blow up

don't get

[next kestrel]

80+ one of the worse units

[verbal quarry]

oh god ok

[muted patio]

So is the W1

HOnestly, the CV is your best bet

[next kestrel]

you should ask the shipper

[wanton mauve]

They haven't responded on Discord and their live chat isn't responding even though it says 24/7

andI'm pretty sure it's not a holiday or anything

[wanton cliff]

I was joking about how nothing is ever in stock

[muted patio]

I'm sorry but you'll have to be patient. No one here can help you with that issue.

[next kestrel]

oh lmao

sometimes i cant tell

[wanton cliff]

i have autism and ADHD so i get it

[oak jay]

Can I put a windows installer on an external hard drive?

[muted patio]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

ive been told no

[muted patio]

It'll wipe the drive though

[oak jay]

Ok that’s fine there’s nothing on it

Straight from the store

[verbal quarry]

which is better the i3 10100 or the r3 3200g

[mortal void]

so very weird thing on Mem Express I found. Arctic P12 is $17.99 each and Arctic P14 is only $12.99
Pricing Mix-up? lol

[oak jay]

Will it be useable for other stuff after?

Like if I just delete the windows installer

[muted patio]

Yes

[oak jay]

Ok

Is the ryzen 5 3600 32 or 64 bit?

[wanton cliff]

dang so I could have used my 4tb external HDD instead of searching around the house for 4 hours for a flash drive with more than 8gb?

[muted patio]

64 bit

[oak jay]

Ok thx

[viral ore]

i3 10100

[wanton cliff]

im pretty sure 3200g has better integrated graphics, no?

[verbal quarry]

https://newegg.io/e47a8ed so hows this

[viral ore]

yeah, if you use them

[verbal quarry]

i also have the exact same price amd one

[wanton cliff]

just asking for curiosity. I see the 1650 on his list.

[verbal quarry]

sadly i cant buy used

[viral ore]

1650 still runs circles around the vega 8 igpu

[verbal quarry]

im trying to make it easier to buy from one place

[wanton cliff]

of course

[viral ore]

that only makes it harder by limiting your options

[verbal quarry]

ik but for a friend who doesnt know anything about computers

i dont want him to go on a hunt for stuff he doesnt know

[cerulean pelican]

Any1 know where I can get a good molded 3060 to or 3070 that's less than
50 more than msrp?
If not any where I can get a sapphire pulse 5600xt for less than 50 more msrp

[viral ore]

what is your friend planning to do with this system?

[muted patio]

Gotta wait for drops and stock

[verbal quarry]

game

[muted patio]

nothing in stock anywhere

[viral ore]

does he need peripherals and a monitor?

[verbal quarry]

no he already has it

[wanton cliff]

please dont drop your question in multiple channels

[verbal quarry]

he has a really crappy build

[viral ore]

what does he already have? does he have a case he could reuse?

or is he using a prebuilt system

[mortal void]

is there a way to bring up a pricing error to Memory Express? the P12 Fans are $17.99 whilst the P14 Fans are only $12.99

[viral ore]

nope

[verbal quarry]

he has an i5 8400

and a intel uhd 630

[viral ore]

yeah, so hes using the iGPU

[verbal quarry]

yea

would it be worth using the cpu he has now?

[viral ore]

the 10100 is not significantly better than the 8400. its certainly not 200 dollars better

imo, stick with the cpu and motherboard you have

could you link the prebuilt system he has?

[verbal quarry]

he doesnt know what he has exactly

[viral ore]

could he take a picture of the case?

[verbal quarry]

i had to give him step by step on how to open task manager

[wanton cliff]

lol

[viral ore]

but he knows how to take picture with a phone, right?

[wanton cliff]

ctrl+shift+escape

[verbal quarry]

yes

[viral ore]

good, tell him to take a good pic of the system

[verbal quarry]

i just did and now we wait

[tepid plover]

Can anybody help me find the pins on my motherboard that are supposed to connect to the extra case fans I just bought?

[viral ore]

consult the motherboard manual

[tepid plover]

Problem is I don’t have it..

[muted patio]

uhhhh

where'd you get that fan?

Cuz that's not the right connector

[tepid plover]

No way

[muted patio]

Yeah

[tepid plover]

I was confused on why it only had 2 pins

[muted patio]

WHere did that fan come from?

[tepid plover]

I purchased 2 of them off Amazon

[muted patio]

Looks like an industrial fan

[verbal quarry]

oh god

[muted patio]

Yeah, those are full speed 100% all the time industrial fans

Not really for PC use

[wanton cliff]

Servers

thats what those are good for

[muted patio]

Yeah, or server fans

[mortal void]

on the plus side, PC will be crisp and cool

[muted patio]

You need PWM fans

[verbal quarry]

@viral ore i sent the picture

[muted patio]

Yeah those aren't the right fans

You need

PWM fans

[tepid plover]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[wanton cliff]

Noctua has good PWM fans

[still roost]

iVqya#2576 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wanton cliff]

good fans in general

[mortal void]

Get a refund perhaps iV?

[tepid plover]

Yeah

My gpu has had high temps so I kinda just ordered the first thing I saw

Anybody have any suggestions for 2 cheap fans I can buy off Amazon?

[mortal void]

120mm?

$13.90 for Noctua NF-P12 redux-900

um

[wanton cliff]

worst noctua fans

[mortal void]

wait

[tepid plover]

Are they solid?

[mortal void]

redux-1700 for same price

ah yes, perfect. 5 fan pack for $30 lol

[wanton cliff]

which fans?

[mortal void]

arctic f12. Budget

decent from what I hear

[viral ore]

you could slap a GTX 1650 in there

[mortal void]

is redux-1700 not good? Noctua usually is solid

[viral ore]

easily

it also probably could use a memory upgrade

[verbal quarry]

yea i saw that

[viral ore]

anything noctua is good

you literally cant go wrong

[wanton cliff]

you really could just buy an Optiplex and slap a GPU in

totally possible

[little osprey]

rip xd

[viral ore]

40,529th intel stock cooler joke in this server

[verbal quarry]

so would him just buying a gpu and ram be better then the build i have for him now?

[wanton cliff]

its like the attack helicopter joke

[viral ore]

yep

[wanton cliff]

but slightly more excusable

[verbal quarry]

cool thank you

also with that info could it run a 1660 super?

[viral ore]

1660 super needs a PCIe power cable

[verbal quarry]

oh ok

[viral ore]

i doubt that system has one available

[wanton cliff]

arent optiplex PSUs semi modular?

[viral ore]

it also has a proprietary psu

[viral ore]

its an HP desktop

[viral ore]

this ^

[wanton cliff]

oh

[verbal quarry]

yea

[wanton cliff]

my b

[viral ore]

you could have him take the side panel off and take a pic

might be able to see what loose cables there are

also, some systems like this only provide 35w to the PCIe x16 slot

totally out of spec, but they do it anyway

if thats the case then you cant add a gpu

another thing to check for is an ssd

[verbal quarry]

how would you be able to tell

[viral ore]

researching the board model

forum posts

sometimes OEM systems have spec sheets that list it

but all this info is unobtainable if i dont have the exact model number of the system

[verbal quarry]

so i get the model number of the pc and where would i find that sheet?

[viral ore]

i would find it for you

[verbal quarry]

oh ok

and where would i find the model number?

on the back?

[wanton cliff]

likely

[viral ore]

sometimes, look all around the case for any stickers with numbers on it

they slap em on the bottom usually

[oak jay]

I’m installing windows do I just boot to the external hard drive I have the installer on?

[gleaming quartz]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

you should just be able to plug it in i think. Don't quite remember

[oak jay]

Yeah

[verbal quarry]

this is the best he can get

[oak jay]

Oh the windows install think just popped up

[oak jay]

Cool

[verbal quarry]

just asked him to get the pc model number

[viral ore]

im seeing models of this system that come with GPUs such as the RX 550 and GTX 1050, both of which do not require a PCIe power cable

[mortal void]

hmmmmmmmmmmm
RX 580 8GB for $388.50 (thats my back-up card if I can't get 5700XT when I'm ready for CPU + GPU)
or
5700XT for $700

[viral ore]

you should be able to run a card in this board

[viral ore]

lol none, just wait a month or two

[mortal void]

well I'm not getting money for a long time lol. Future Planning

[muted patio]

neither

[viral ore]

dont

[mortal void]

I like 5700XT. Seems like a good card

[viral ore]

picking pc components isnt something you plan, its something you do in 10 minutes

[mortal void]

No I plan

[viral ore]

no, you dont

[mortal void]

good time killer

[viral ore]

im telling you not to

[muted patio]

new products announced next week

So, forget plans

[viral ore]

oh, yeah, for killing time and stuff, sure, but dont think anything you plan will be worth anything

[mortal void]

I know full well it isn't

I just like to

I like PCs

[viral ore]

then dont burden us with your "planning"

[muted patio]

5700XT is honestly oof. o many issues with those cards

[viral ore]

yeah, thats true

[mortal void]

according to Tech Jesus Sapphire Pulse 5700XT is good

tho

[viral ore]

RX 580 tho, best 1080p60 card

[verbal quarry]

he found it

[muted patio]

Tech Jesus lol

[mortal void]

I'd be pairing with a 3600. I figure its good for Budget

[verbal quarry]

took him a minute xD

[viral ore]

dope

[mortal void]

HP

[mortal void]

ALRIGHT FINE.
R5 5600x and 6900XT then

[viral ore]

👍

[muted patio]

Your planning should happen when you have the money together

[mortal void]

I can always do actual planning that matters when that time comes

which I will do

because PC expensive

[verbal quarry]

ngl its nice to be able to have a base for when you start

[viral ore]

slap a GTX 1650 in that system, along with another identical 8gb stick of ram

[mortal void]

Planning is my life. I Plan everything out alot

[muted patio]

With new products being announced next week, everything right now is kinda moot lol

[viral ore]

the system has an intel optane drive in it, take it out and put in a real ssd

reinstall windows 10

[muted patio]

Optane........

[mortal void]

Yeah but new = more expensive than whats on my current List

[muted patio]

Not really

[mortal void]

I doubt any new Ryzen CPU will be cheaper than a 3600

so

not exactly wasted time

assuming a 3600 is still good enuff

[muted patio]

If 3600 is your target, you should to Intel

More bang for the buck there

[mortal void]

most things I'd wanna play it'll do fine in

ehhh

Intel

[viral ore]

3600 is back to 199 at newegg

[muted patio]

Especially with 11gen just around the corner

[viral ore]

194*

[mortal void]

whats the exact intel equivalent of a 3600 then?

[viral ore]

10600k

[muted patio]

I think more like 10400

Price wise

[viral ore]

10400 limited to slower memory in most cases

[muted patio]

Right but the 10600 is an extra $100 over the 3600

Or $50

[viral ore]

yeah, thats why the 3600 is better

it performs like the 10600k for less

[viral ore]

yes, i missed this part

[muted patio]

Well, 11th gen coming soon too

[viral ore]

lmao

[muted patio]

So, all bets are off

[viral ore]

how intel does this all on the same process node boggles the mind

[muted patio]

I know

[viral ore]

11th gen is gonna be quite the refined chip

[muted patio]

Leaks look good but we wait for benchmarks to see

[viral ore]

me when 12th gen single core performs worse than 11th

[mortal void]

3600 = $310 right now
10400 @ 2.9 Base Clock = $277
10600k = $371 but its on sale with Newegg, regular $423

[viral ore]

cad pricing?

[muted patio]

CAD prices or something?

XD

[mortal void]

yes, included with taxes

I take what I can get

[viral ore]

3600 obv

[mortal void]

Canada sucks for Parts, I'll say it all the time

[viral ore]

worth the extra 40 over the 10400

[mortal void]

and yes 3600 all the way. I prefer AMD and pretty sure by default all or most come Unlocked but I can't speak for intel so

current market AMD seems like a no brainer. Cheap and really solid

[stoic island]

depends on cad board prices too

if like z490 boards are cheap, 10400

[mortal void]

I'll see

z490 is intel I assume

whats a good z490 board Mr1111

[stoic island]

all of em

unlimited ram freq

[mortal void]

2x m.2 slots and 4 fan headers tho?

I need those

[stoic island]

2xM.2 should be on all of em

[viral ore]

fan headers arent an issue

[stoic island]

and 4 fans headers is fairly average

[viral ore]

splitters exist, even if your board doesnt have 4

[mortal void]

fair

[viral ore]

which is unlikely if its already got dual M.2

[mortal void]

on sale b550m for 3600 is $137
z490 is waaaaay expensive. Cheapest I could see was like $223

[small osprey]

Z490 is like x570 of amd

Budget is b460

[mortal void]

I'm fine with b550m

[stoic island]

sad

[mortal void]

expensive side yes, but Mr1111 recommended a very nice board that I like so

I'll stick with it

[small osprey]

What cpu are you getting?

[mortal void]

3600

overkill board I know

well, true overkill would be 3600 with an x570 board

but still

[small osprey]

Which board?

[mortal void]

ASRock b550m pro4

[small osprey]

Hm

Probably not that overkill

Dunno much about asrock tho

[arctic jungle]

i never liked asrock until i found out that it's 100% controllable by synapse

[mortal void]

If I stop being lazy and actually try and get a job this year, even with min wage part time I can earn the money I need easily

[small osprey]

Synapse?

As in razer synapse??

[mortal void]

Razer Synapse

I assume

lol

[arctic jungle]

mhm

[small osprey]

What

[mortal void]

thats cool

I'm just glad that the board I'm looking at doesn't have RGB Accents

the regular b550 does for some weird reason

[fluid escarp]

I’m looking to upgrade my graphics card to make my current PC a decent gaming setup. It currently has a GTX 1060 3GB set up. I purchased a 144hz monitor and upgraded the RAM of my PC from 8gb to 32gb

[mortal void]

32gb is quite alot for gaming

[fluid escarp]

Currently I play on my 60hz tv, but planning on running the gaming to the monitor

[viral ore]

16gb is minimum for gaming, 32gb is a decent amount, 64gb is overkill

[fluid escarp]

It’s mainly a server for my Plex movies. I’m building out a gaming PC as well. I just want this one to be decent so both my kids can play at the same time

[mortal void]

nothing comes to mind as to needing 32gb for recommended spec

least not RIGHT now

[viral ore]

i regularly use more than 16gb

while gaming

[mortal void]

on what?

[stoic island]

16gb is minimum for AAA gaming

[viral ore]

games plus other background tasks

[mortal void]

hm

[small osprey]

32 gb too much

[mortal void]

interesting

[small osprey]

24 gb perfect

[viral ore]

hence why 16gb is minimum

[stoic island]

32gb is situational

[fluid escarp]

Correct, it will be streaming my movies to family and friends and still allow me to play Warzone 😁

[mortal void]

well what CPU does it have right now

[viral ore]

16gb plus a good ssd is all most gamers need, but if your budget is like 2k+, nothing wrong with going 32gb

[mortal void]

mine already 2k+ with only 16 lol

[small osprey]

Whats ur list

[mortal void]

I have 2

[fluid escarp]

I’ll send you the exact computer I purchased. I’m not super savvy. Just want to replace the graphics card. It was a crappy build

[stoic island]

I dunno about 32gb as the recommended middle point, I'd say it's an above average point

[small osprey]

Mm