building-and-recc-chat

[hollow grail]

even then its pricy for what it is

[viral ore]

cpu and cpu cooler choice are good

[hollow grail]

for $30?

that cooler is not worth 30 lol

[viral ore]

thats whats even better about it

that cooler is worth a fair bit more imo

[hollow grail]

yeah but locked cpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x2JmP6/deepcool-gammaxx-400-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx400v2-bl

id get this and call it a day

[viral ore]

oh

whoops, didnt realize there was more than one gammaxx 400 LMAO

[hollow grail]

yeah hehe

sorry sassy im gonna throw you in the pond

cause youre a silly goose!

[viral ore]

i really do be

[hollow grail]

so literally

only the ram and cpu are good

[viral ore]

well, the ram is also kinda meh, teamgroup ram is, kinda cringe

[hollow grail]

im trying to be generous

i remember they argued with me a bunch

cause they were like

need cheap sata ssd

and i was like

why sata

and they were like stfu

then i was like ok well get an 860 evo for $55

and they were like too expensive

[viral ore]

oh, you've dealt with this person before?

[hollow grail]

and later they linked a wd blue that was $5 MORE than the evo

congrats they got trash nand and no dram in that ssd

and saved five entire dollars

[hollow grail]

yeah theyre interesting

[severe galleon]

i run 37-40c on idle, i have a 3700x with stock cooler, will it be fine?

[viral ore]

imma do em a list brb

[viral ore]

idle is irrelevant, put a load on that cooler

[normal osprey]

Whats the link for pc part picker

[severe galleon]

i hit 67, with ambient being 25

[hollow grail]

get ready for them to say its bad

[severe galleon]

stressed it on cinebench

[hollow grail]

because not cheap enough

actually sassy

[viral ore]

and?

[hollow grail]

honestly just dont waste your time

[viral ore]

use HWinfo64 to record the min and max temps

[severe galleon]

nothing? thought i mentioned

[hollow grail]

theyre either beyond help or trolling at this point

[viral ore]

oh i see

67 wont throttle any time soon

so ya fine

[viral ore]

yeah, ive dealt with many people like that, ill take your word for it lmao

[hollow grail]

inb4 they build their crapbox and come here to complain about it

[viral ore]

cough kenzie cough

[hollow grail]

[coarse coral]

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/37gQzy/intel-celeron-g5900-34-ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80701g5900

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FvCFf7/intel-pentium-gold-g6400-4-ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80701g6400

Which is better?

[fluid raven]

....

[little osprey]

I know NOTHING about pcs so I wanted someone opinion

[hollow grail]

both are bad

[little osprey]

Why

[hollow grail]

so many reasons lol

what do you want to use the pc for

[little osprey]

Legit like 2 games

[hollow grail]

what games

[little osprey]

Modded sims 4 & MC with some texture packs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3xFHz

This is the build I currently have

I WANT Ryzen but it doesn't fit with this build

[hollow grail]

that build is more than fine

id get a ssd and move the os to it

[little osprey]

os?

[hollow grail]

windows

[little osprey]

How big of an ssd do I need

[viral ore]

128gb minimum, 512gb maximum

[little osprey]

And what brand would be a good one?

[viral ore]

128 and 256 dont make that much sense to buy tho, because 512 is really cheap

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4ZFf7/samsung-970-evo-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v7e500bw

So this

[viral ore]

comparatively

thats a good one

[little osprey]

Wtf

[hollow grail]

that is a good one yeah

[little osprey]

When I was looking to build a pc at first, I wanted that one and everyone said no wtf

[stoic island]

It's just meh now

At the start it was way overpriced

[hollow grail]

those people had four brain cells

[little osprey]

Not here- but in another servers

[stoic island]

@hollow grail we don't all simp for sammy :p

[hollow grail]

you cant say they arent the best out there though

[stoic island]

What if I said

Mp510 for endurance

[viral ore]

for 5 dollars over the mp34, its worth it

[stoic island]

Mp34 for price to performance

[hollow grail]

they use samsung drives

[little osprey]

My list?

[stoic island]

:p

@hollow grail not if you stuff it with Sabrent Rocket 4 plus

[hollow grail]

honey badger is just a lame pcie card that bifurcates by itself

[stoic island]

Which are faster than 980 pros

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZFv6y4

It's like 100-200$ over budget 🤷‍♂️

Why

[hollow grail]

true the 4 plus is great

i cant wait to see what the comeback will be from the bigger brands

@stoic island if i made ssds would u buy

[stoic island]

No because I no monie

[little osprey]

580?

[stoic island]

But yea we'll just have to wait for the next "wave" of drives on Phison E16 or similar

[little osprey]

For?

[stoic island]

Was it e16 or e18, forgot, need to check

It was E18

Hmmm

@hollow grail have you heard of the Addlink S95 before?

Never seen it before, 7100/6800 rated r/w

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3JdFf7/msi-radeon-rx-570-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-570-armor-8g-oc ??

[stoic island]

ebay.com

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hdypF8

[fluid raven]

jesus christ did that guy even try to cable manage

[hollow grail]

who

jesus christ

[little osprey]

i am a female
I also know nothing about pcs

[hollow grail]

im a girl

[fluid raven]

why does he have a 1070 paired with a new i7

[hollow grail]

[fluid raven]

[hollow grail]

that has to be the worst looking pc ive ever sen

seen

[fluid raven]

well that sure makes me feel better about my cable management

that makes more sense than what he did

[hollow grail]

inb4 i7 2600 with a 2060 or smth

[fluid raven]

just gonna pair my gt 730 with my 3700x rq brb

LORD

[hollow grail]

with?

i was close

[fluid raven]

you could at the very least get a 3570k with that socket

but that wouldn't be worth it...

can't beat free

but jesus christ

get an upgrade at some point

[hollow grail]

i mean 4c8t isnt the worst

you just might beat a new pentium

[fluid raven]

sc or mc

Thieaudio Phantom

I have 3700x it gets about 12.2k mc at stock

yeah...

how would you say the bass on those is

open back =/= bad bass

say for example, my thieaudio phantoms

at least in my case these things have as much bass as any closed back

the only difference is the perception of the pressure against your head

and how is say, the resolution on the treble

I was thinkin about buying some philips for someone as a gift

about 1:40, the ultimate treble test

even these have trouble with it

I'd be curious how it sounds on electrostats

course not

wish they weren't so dang ugly

how hard is it to make a circular enclosure

smdh

just make them humongous and circly

either way they look silly you don't wear them for the looks but maaan

fortnut insisted that the koss 95x could trade blows with them

and apparently the jade sound, not great

even though they're like.. $18k?

something ridiculous like that

ah nvm

jade just headphones is $800

sucks that they dont' sound great apparently cuz they're so darn pretty

[hollow grail]

im so darn pretty

hell yea just closed 400 tabs

[fluid raven]

they need to figure out how to make electrostatics run on a friggin normal headphone port of some kind

or at least agree upon each other a standard port that could be included in other amplifiers

they use a very tiny and thin membrane suspended between two polarized magnetic coils which alternate polarity (x) times a second to move the membrane, thus creating sound

technically same thing as planar magnetic, just with a non-magnetic diaphragm

requires an absolutely stupid amount of volts I guess, hence why they all require an energizer of some sort

?

wouldn't do enough voltage

no matter what it's gonna have to be a 5 pin or something

but if they could just agree on the on pin layout that would at least be a step in the right direction

the energizers as they are now can be....

[muted sluice]

@buoyant flame yo bring your rad up a bit more. it looks like its below the pump and there might be air bubbles in it

also u need some exhaust fans

[still bay]

the 2 rules are the top of ur radiator should be above the pump, and the tubes should be below the top of the radiator

second one isnt as importnat

[muted sluice]

second one is kinda optional. it should be always top mounted if possible tho. tubes up and tubes down is ok

[normal canyon]

why the heck would you not mount it on the top

[muted sluice]

i just said to top mount if possible

[normal canyon]

It seems to be possible. This is why i said why would you not lol

[muted sluice]

oh

oops

[normal canyon]

man i have so many ideas for good pc setups

yet so little money i cant even buy a new chair 😭

[idle hawk]

https://youtu.be/DKwA7ygTJn0

[muted sluice]

yea i watched this before

[idle hawk]

he posted this the other day

[next kestrel]

why is there no b-stock 😦

[cyan stone]

When swapping aio rad fans to lower static pressure, specifically from 2.71mm H2O to 1.6mm H2O... Is that necessarily a big hit in performance?

[blazing aurora]

does newegg restock the 3060tis every weeknight

[cyan stone]

No lol

[cyan stone]

Best bet is to use a stock-bot, or run a stream of one in the background

[blazing aurora]

oh alright

[blazing aurora]

noted

[buoyant flame]

Ik the thing is there's literally not mounting holes another level up and I can't flip it because the psu shroud blocks the tubing if I do

And couldn't mount it up top as it is a 280mm rad

[normal canyon]

ohhh ripppp

[buoyant flame]

I might do what hei suggested tho and move it up a level, but only screw it to the case by the bottom 4 fan screws

And exhaust fans are coming :)

[raw crane]

When should you put the fans exhaust or intake

[muted patio]

Typically, front intake, top and back exhaust

More intake than exhaust for slight positive pressure

[idle hawk]

throw out the whole computer and start over lolol jk

id recommend a new case

[daring berry]

Does Anybody know we're I can download a Graphic Card 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[gleaming quartz]

you have to install and mount it in one of your pcie 16x slots

which should be right here

if you have a bigger graphics card make sure to also install your mounting bracket so that you can have it be stabilized

[little osprey]

I think he was joking....

[little osprey]

He said how to 'download'...

[gleaming quartz]

idk i was just assuming it was an error in translation or something lol

[idle hawk]

no he wanted to download faster ram too

[wanton cliff]

Hey does anyone know a good website to download some more RAM? I need to edit this really big 4K video but I only have 8gb

[idle hawk]

lmaoo

[little osprey]

yeah but he added some emojis so..... having fun with the chat

[wanton cliff]

[warped river]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XBr7y4 this is my build, any opinions?

[severe axle]

don't get that gpu at that price

[wanton cliff]

I would get a better GPU

yeah

[warped river]

i already bought the gpu and with hindsight i should have waited but i was impatient

[wanton cliff]

and maybe some faster memory

[severe axle]

try to get 3600 cl16 ram

crucial has rgb 3600 c16 for $90

[warped river]

im in aus just an fyi

[wanton cliff]

if you want RGB, TridentZ has that for relatively cheap too

for RGB RAM, that is

[muted patio]

Crucial RGB ram for like, $80

[wanton cliff]

really?

hold on

[warped river]

i was really impatient with alot of these and have already bought the parts, though i shouldn't have, i was just exited

[gleaming quartz]

theres also g.skill which is pretty good for its price

[severe axle]

I remember it being $90

[muted patio]

Sorry $90

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164221?Description=3600 CL 16 ram&cm_re=3600_CL 16 ram-_-20-164-221-_-Product

[wanton cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164221?Description=16gb 3600 cl16&cm_re=16gb_3600 cl16-_-20-164-221-_-Product

impresive

lemme check G.Skill

[muted patio]

Better timings than G Skill

[warped river]

for me that would be 130$

[muted patio]

better chips

[little osprey]

wait why is corsair vengeance rgb pro so famous?

[muted patio]

Micron Rev E chips

[little osprey]

latency?

[muted patio]

Corsair ram overhyped

[wanton cliff]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232898?Description=16gb 3600 cl16&cm_re=16gb_3600 cl16-_-20-232-898-_-Product

[warped river]

AUD$183.70

[wanton cliff]

best G.Skill RAM for cheap I could find

[warped river]

ram pricing is inflated rn

[muted patio]

Tridentz has slightly worse sub timings

inflated?

Oh dear, you haven't been around enough. It was terrible last year

[gleaming quartz]

im sure the minor details dont really matter as much

[wanton cliff]

I do prefer the look of TridentZ RAM tho

[warped river]

i have been stupid and i should have just waited, i plan to upgrade eventually to a 3070 maybe

[muted patio]

Bang for the buck though, Crucial better

[wanton cliff]

crazy inflated

[wanton cliff]

sell your 5600XT as fast as you can after you get a 3070

[gleaming quartz]

yeah just wait until the market deflates

[wanton cliff]

Falcodrin on twitch has a monitor bot set up for you to watch on Amazon and Newegg for not scalped 3000-series cards

streams 24/7

[warped river]

if i was going to it will be much later in the year

i don't have nearly enough money

[wanton cliff]

by that time Hopper architecture will probably be out

[warped river]

That is the plan

[wanton cliff]

which is most likely going to be more worth it, as it is rumored it is going to be on 5nm

[warped river]

god damn

thats crazy

do u think it will ever get smaller than nanometer? or is it a hard cap?

[wanton cliff]

at the very least, Nvidia booked TSMC's 5nm architecture for something, although noone knows exactly what yet.

[wanton cliff]

ever heard of a Picometer?

[warped river]

i think so

it like quantum mechanics isn't it?

[wanton cliff]

not necessarily

just a really small unit of measurment

specifically, the next level smaller after a nanometer

[warped river]

crazy that if you look like 10 years ago there is so much change in sizes tho

[wanton cliff]

25nm vs 5nm

5 times smaller

and we do have 5nm CPUs, most specifically the Apple A14 Bionic processor

[warped river]

if stuff gets too small it becomes hard to use for computing isn't it becasue particles just start moving around and stuff

like moving through other particles

[wanton cliff]

thats not quite how math works

look at SSDs for example

all the electrons - billions and billions of them - are held inside a nonometer's worth of space

thats what the storage and information is

[little osprey]

My friend told me that the a14 chip scored much similar to a AMD 5000 series cpu (single core)

[wanton cliff]

probably true

[little osprey]

damn that's crazy

[wanton cliff]

obviously a desktop processor is going to be much more powerful than a phone processor

but Apple really does have something going with their ARM architecture

[warped river]

do smaller chips create more heat the like would a 5nm create more than a 10nm even if they ran at the same clocks?

and settings and all that sorta stuff

[little osprey]

yeah like the M1....

[wanton cliff]

a 5nm process node creates the same amount of heat as a 10nm process node, I believe

i do not know for sure

A 10nm probably produces more heat tbh

i mean, look at Intel

[warped river]

but intel brutes clocks to high numbers

[wanton cliff]

14nm++++++++ (or whatever they are calling it now) and some of the hottest CPUs you can buy

[still bay]

qwerty

whats ur budget?

[wanton cliff]

uiop

[tardy kindle]

um like 1500

[still bay]

for just gaming?

or other stuff

[wanton cliff]

thats a pretty good budget

[tardy kindle]

gaming

i play minecraft

[still bay]

what games

okay a bit overkill for minecraft but thats ok

[wanton cliff]

AMD boost clocks extremely high tho too. My 4700u goes from 2ghz to 3.9 just like that and no change in temperature

[still bay]

qwerty brand new pc?

also r u okay with waiting for some parts

[wanton cliff]

and my 3800x goes from 3.9 to 4.5 with also almost no change

[tardy kindle]

ok

i found a pc on amazon

[wanton cliff]

almost

[tardy kindle]

https://www.amazon.com/iBUYPOWER-Element-MR-9320-i7-10700F/dp/B08FPXPGJW/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=pc&qid=1609953188&sr=8-4

[warped river]

and no change in fan speeds or anything?

[wanton cliff]

dont buy prebuilt

[little osprey]

ooh yeah i had an issue these days....with my ryzen 3500u

[still bay]

oof do not buy a prebuilt

[wanton cliff]

correct

[still bay]

1660ti for 1.4k lmfao

[tardy kindle]

but idk how to build pc

[still bay]

its not hard and theres millions of guides

[wanton cliff]

you can find out through youtube

its not hard

[tardy kindle]

is there tutorial video?

[still bay]

watch bitwit's guide

[wanton cliff]

at all

[still bay]

yes theres hundreds of them

[warped river]

there are hundreds of vid on utbe

[tardy kindle]

link?

[wanton cliff]

plenty of tutorial guides

[still bay]

1 sec

[severe axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MYOpFONCU

this one is pretty good

[still bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q&

bitwit > ltt

[wanton cliff]

true dat

[still bay]

but bitwit never uploads

[wanton cliff]

stfu

[still bay]

also hes kinda dumb

[tardy kindle]

ok

[wanton cliff]

no

[still bay]

he bricked a 1k board lmfao

[wanton cliff]

on accident

[still bay]

"on accident"

[wanton cliff]

could happen to anybody

[still bay]

lol im just kidding man

[wanton cliff]

he unplugged power during a BIOs flash

could happen to anyone

[still bay]

wathc that and let me know if u think u can do it

bro im kidding its not that deep

dw

[tardy kindle]

i kinda want a 3090 for pc build but too expensive : (

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[wanton cliff]

3090 is as expensive as your budget lmao

[still bay]

well u could get a 3090 for ur budget

[wanton cliff]

and thats the cheapest 3090s

[still bay]

just nothing else

[tardy kindle]

hm

maybe 3080

or 3070

[still bay]

u should do 3070 5600x for ur budget

[little osprey]

don't forget about the stock

[wanton cliff]

3080 would fit the budget pretty good

[still bay]

do u wanta parts list?

[still bay]

wasnt it 1400?

[tardy kindle]

doesnt geforce go best with intel proccesor

[still bay]

no

that isnt how it works

[wanton cliff]

3080 MSRP is $700

[still bay]

i know

i menat budget

[wanton cliff]

budget is 1500

[tardy kindle]

OH NO ITS SOLD OUT

[still bay]

yeah u can do a 3080 if u cut some corners

its all sold out

[tardy kindle]

i lokk on newegg

[wanton cliff]

everything is sold out

[still bay]

lol

u gotta wiat a few months probably

[tardy kindle]

WHAT

[still bay]

what

[tardy kindle]

: (

[wanton cliff]

qwertyuiop, if you dont mind my asking, how old are you?

[still bay]

im over here starving with a 10900k and a 1070ti

yeah qwerty

[wanton cliff]

you dont have ti answer

[tardy kindle]

im 17

why

[wanton cliff]

curiosu

[still bay]

im not so sure if i believe that

[gleaming quartz]

[still bay]

but ok

[wanton cliff]

me neither lmao

but its whatever

[tardy kindle]

why do you even want to know how old i am

[still bay]

just curious

[tardy kindle]

you wanna know my address?\

private info

[still bay]

nope

[wanton cliff]

no lol

[still bay]

do not share that

[tardy kindle]

so u kidnapper

[still bay]

nope

[wanton cliff]

dont ever share that, especially on discord

[tardy kindle]

hmm

[wanton cliff]

someone is going to SWAT your house lmao

[still bay]

i think amazon's trying to kidnap me

[tardy kindle]

ok

[still bay]

they asked for my address

qwerty just so

wait a few months

[tardy kindle]

they do that whenever you order something dumass

[still bay]

LMFAO

[little osprey]

my reaction is your pfp

[wanton cliff]

or watch Falcodrin's stream on Twitch for a few days nonstop

[still bay]

bro i was kidding...

[tardy kindle]

oh

whos falcordin

link?

[wanton cliff]

https://www.twitch.tv/falcodrin

has a monitoring bot set up for every product on Amazon and Newegg

[tardy kindle]

maybe i can get 3080 from microcneter?

[wanton cliff]

from Ampere, that is

[wanton cliff]

possibly. Def worth a shot.

[tardy kindle]

ok

[still bay]

3080 in ur budget is hard

[tardy kindle]

should i go right now to check if they have any?

[still bay]

maybe try calling

[tardy kindle]

ok

[still bay]

also ask for a 6800xt or 6800

those are good too

[little osprey]

guys i had an issue with windows.... the explorer crashes and the desktop goes black when i turn it on (it's solved when i restart it couple of times) but the file explorer works rarely

[wanton cliff]

also: ofc a 3060 12gb variant was just confirmed by Nvidia

[tardy kindle]

ok

[still bay]

interesting that a 60 would have more vram than 70

[tardy kindle]

well i gotta go rn

[still bay]

tf are they smoking

[wanton cliff]

wth is Nvidia doing lmao

[still bay]

go for it

ikr

[wanton cliff]

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-readies-a-new-entry-in-the-ampere-gpu-lineup-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-ultra-variant-asus-tuf-oc-pictured/

[still bay]

so but why would they do not

3060 12 gb but 3070 10gb makes 0 sense

what are they smoking over there lmfao

[wanton cliff]

apparently new 3060 is higher specced than 3060Ti

[still bay]

is it just a cut down 3070 but with 12 gb of vram?

[wanton cliff]

gonna be called 3060 ULTRA

[still bay]

3060... ULTRA

why

[wanton cliff]

all caps

[still bay]

what happedn to super

[little osprey]

yall know what to do instead of removing windows and adding linux

[junior sky]

haha ultttrraaaa

[wanton cliff]

pictured: Nvidia CEOs and Engineers right now

[still bay]

3060 ULTRA

its ULTRA

[wanton cliff]

which distro are you using? One does not simply download Linux like you do with Windows

there are a metric fckton of different versions of Linux, from Arch (what I use) to Manjaro to PopOS and a ton others

just had to flex that im an Arch user, as all Arch users do

its an unwritten contract

[wanton cliff]

it might be more powerful than 3070 tbh

if its cheaper than 3080 I might get one

assuming our assumptions are true

[still bay]

someone just said to me "nah imma hold off for the 3060 pro max"

[little osprey]

i tagged the issue here

[gleaming quartz]

theres no way the 3060 is going to be more powerful than a 3070

[still bay]

@little osprey im sorry i owuld help u but idk whats wrong

[wanton cliff]

its 3060 ULTRA

[still bay]

@gleaming quartz literally has more vram

[gleaming quartz]

weird

[wanton cliff]

supposed to be more powerful than 3060Ti

[little osprey]

it's fine (windows is hell)

[gleaming quartz]

how much vram does a 3060 ultra have?

just curious

[still bay]

@wanton cliff someone just told me its a meme

"A guy I know in the Nvidia Discord literally photoshopped that"

"Yes
A guy I know in the Nvidia Discord literally photoshopped that
And "leaked" it to a couple of sites
It's complete BS"

[wanton cliff]

according to pcgamer.com: it has fewer CUDA cores than 3080 (which is what they are comparing it to), a 192-bit memory bus rather than 256, and a 2.7 slot.

they also say it is supposed to give the 3070 a run for it's money

[wanton cliff]

the TUF variant was confirmed already so idk what you're talking about lol

[still bay]

its a photoshop

by someone in the nvidia discord

who leaked it to a bunch of websites who believed it

unless asus or nvidia makes a statement dont believe it

[wanton cliff]

So you are telling me that every single PC website believed it?

literally everyone is reporting on it

[still bay]

apparently so.

i am telling u a fact

that image is photoshopped

idk if its an acutal card

but the image is fake

[wanton cliff]

The image shown on every website was that of the TUF 3060Ti

because according to them: "no picture has yet been found"

sooooo

yeah

[still bay]

its literally a fake photoshop by someone in the nvidia discord

[wanton cliff]

no picture is here yet lmao

[still bay]

well we will see

[wanton cliff]

SR, PCgamer, DSOG, and a bunch of other people are reporting on it. The TUF variant specs were leaked somewhere. No one has any pictures, so a photoshop is not the source of this

[still bay]

bro

the box literally says 3060 ultra

very clear photoshop

@wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

the PCgamer one said 3060Ti

[still bay]

talkg about dsog

that photo is the photoshop i am talking about.

[wanton cliff]

on the other hand, did you know that light wavelengths are larger than today's process nodes by more than a hundred times?

on average

light: 390-700nm

CPU Process nodes: 5-14nm (today, at least)

and the 14 is kind of an outlier because Intel

[still bay]

lol 10900k wya

actually no

im inclusive

14nm gang wya

[wanton cliff]

eh

AMD, Qualcomm, and even Apple to an extent are all better

altho I prefer Apple to use Intel CPUs

handicaps them a bit more so they arent a complete monopoly

oop

my printer just printed 8 of the same picture in color

why you do this printer?

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff btw, the 3060 leak came from Asus' website like on Christmas iirc

[wanton cliff]

so it is legit?

[stoic island]

Not sure, but they came up as listings on their website for long enough for people to get screenshots off

[muted patio]

Well

[wanton cliff]

...

[muted patio]

now there are ECC listings for 3060 Ultras as well

So, we wait for CES next week to find out

[stoic island]

Yea

[wanton cliff]

just going to ping @still bay again

[upbeat lodge]

Are they making rtx 2060 s anymore

?

[wanton cliff]

no

and dont buy one

get a 3060Ti

[upbeat lodge]

I can’t find one in my budget

I ordered one

Last night tho

[wanton cliff]

a 2060s or 3060Ti?

[upbeat lodge]

But they’re already back ordered

3060

[wanton cliff]

yeah they are sold out everywhere

[muted sluice]

no 2000 series got discontinued

[wanton cliff]

you are lucky to get one on backorder

[still bay]

what

[wanton cliff]

look up

[upbeat lodge]

I ordered before back order

There was only seven left

[wanton cliff]

so one is arriving?

[upbeat lodge]

Idk

[still roost]

Komm, süßer Tod#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[upbeat lodge]

I think

It’s coming on the 21

I bought it off shop blt

[muted patio]

Huh, never heard of that place

Website looks old but working

Cards in stock seems SUS though

[upbeat lodge]

Idk

[muted patio]

"We will perform a quote for you with the best possible pricing on expensive items, based upon your payment method."

I mean, wat

Truspilot.com

[upbeat lodge]

I ordered a 2060 before because I was talking with some guy he said they were end of life so I also ordered a 3060 and I can get my money back anytime

[muted patio]

Yeah, 2060 is honestly not great

I have one

[upbeat lodge]

It’s a super

[muted patio]

It's good if you just want good 1080p or decent 1440p performance

Ray Tracing, not so much

[wanton cliff]

1440p on a 5700XT is really good

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah I just want my gpu

[wanton cliff]

2060 is close to that

[muted patio]

5700XT is 2070

😉

[wanton cliff]

closer to 2060s

[upbeat lodge]

I have every part except for my GPA

Gpu

[wanton cliff]

this mans on mobile

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah lol

[muted patio]

I mean, if you have a 3060 coming, I'd return the 2060

[azure flame]

If anyone is an experienced PC builder I am interested in your input. This is my first PC build, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hm949N

[muted patio]

Or sell the 2060 on Ebay

[wanton cliff]

sell the 2060

[muted patio]

They're bringing silly money right now

[azure flame]

“sound card” is a PCIe card that gives me 4 more USB.

[wanton cliff]

lol

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah i have be looking on eBay

There a lot

[muted patio]

That PSU is grossly overpriced

Phanteks AMP 750

$110

Top tier

[upbeat lodge]

500-700 a lot

[azure flame]

Unfort

[azure flame]

It needs to be SFX for that case

[muted patio]

Ah, missed that

nevermind then, SFX is spendy

[azure flame]

😉

[severe axle]

that gpu is overpriced

very bad deal

[muted patio]

Asus raised prices

Dual is now $600

So

Everyone else raising prices too, Tarriff exemption expired

[severe axle]

strix 3070 for 800 👀

[muted patio]

That's basically MSRP now lol

It's stupid

ASUS DUAL reference card for $600

Yikes

[azure flame]

I have 2 3090’s being delivered which are both here in south Florida. That pays for the markup on my 3070

[muted patio]

Also, just an FYI with 2 M.2's you'll lose 3 sata ports

[azure flame]

They are both being delivered and they are both already sold**

Will be running raid on the mobo. Still will lose 3 sata?

Do I need more sata? Lol

[muted patio]

Just informational, it's how Z490 works

[azure flame]

Gotcha

[muted patio]

It's an issue when people go to build and drives don't show up because it's plugged into a disabled port

[azure flame]

I didn’t want to go 3080 or 3090 and spend that much more + CPU for the performance. I think I’ll be happy with the 3070

[azure flame]

Understood

[tepid agate]

RTX 4060, 4070, 4080, 4090?????

[muted patio]

Next year

[tepid agate]

damn

that will be HUGE

16k gaming

[muted patio]

wat

[tepid agate]

a huge jump

[wanton cliff]

no

[muted patio]

haven't even done 8k gaming

XD

[wanton cliff]

1080Ti was the first 4k GPU and it was barely able to do it

[muted patio]

Can barely do 4K gaming

[tepid agate]

only the 3090 can

[wanton cliff]

...

do a little research before arguing about which GPUs can do what please

3090 is only 10% better than the 3080 at 4k

and the 6900XT can do 8k too

[tepid agate]

didnt Nvidia say they will soon be building 3070-3090 Ti?

i heard them say im pretty sure

[wanton cliff]

rumors

false ones too

[tepid agate]

ah

got it

im just chilling with my GTX 1050

[muted patio]

Anything not released is a rumor at this point

CES next week though, expect REAL news then

Why did you tag mike?

[still roost]

Fetch#2033 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

Fetch#2033 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[stoic island]

Yea I'm excited for ces

[tepid agate]

ima play cool math games with a 30 series card

[muted patio]

I'm excited for Monday

[gaunt zinc]

Aw. Poor guy. He tried

[wanton cliff]

broh

[wanton cliff]

RIP that guy lol

[tepid agate]

sheeeeeee

is a 2060 Super with an i5 10600k a good build?

[muted patio]

Mmmm, I wouldn't spend the money on a 2060 right now

I mean, it's good 1080 and decent 1440p performance until you turn on Ray Tracing

I would expect on Monday nVidia to announce 3050, 3060 Ultra GPU etc

[tepid agate]

what about 1660 Ti?

[muted patio]

So definitely worth waiting

[tepid agate]

im on a budget so

first time building

[muted patio]

I know

but, new cards announced next week

[tepid agate]

i dont have a lot of money to spend on pc parts

[muted patio]

Likely from both nVidia and AMD

[tepid agate]

how much will they be?

[muted patio]

Don't know yet, that's why we need to wait.

[fossil halo]

sub 300 most likely

[muted patio]

might be affordable models, might not

[fossil halo]

for 3050

[tepid agate]

i might do an Ryzen 2600x

[muted patio]

Well

[fossil halo]

if u can get6 one

[muted patio]

Tarriff exemption expired so

[fossil halo]

yea

i heard about that actually

[muted patio]

Motherboard, GPU prices etc going up anyway

[fossil halo]

so maybe a bit more

yea

[tepid agate]

is the 2600x and RTX 2060 Super good?

[muted patio]

Don't expect ray tracing on the 2060

[wanton cliff]

nah

not anymore

[tepid agate]

ik i just want solid high performance

[muted patio]

For what you'll pay for the 2060, you can probably get a better GPU after next week

[tepid agate]

not looking for high quality

[muted patio]

Just hang tight a little longer

[wanton cliff]

a week more

[cursive haven]

can someone please help me with setting up my pc

[tepid agate]

why?

will the price change by any chance

[muted patio]

Probably

[tepid agate]

i mean i havnt bough my stuff yet

[muted patio]

but need to wait.

might be able to get a lot more performance for the same money

It's worth waiting a little longer

[tepid agate]

not gonna start my build in a few weeks

ima get the 2060 Super because i just want 1080p high fps

low settings

[muted patio]

There aren't any of those in stock anywhere either........

[tepid agate]

i said im not buying them now

[muted patio]

I know. Which doesn't make sense to make up your mind with new stuff coming next week for the same or lower price

[tepid agate]

ok ig

[muted patio]

2060 super MSRP is $400

so is the 3060TI

A much better card

[lusty gazelle]

So i got both an HDD+M.2 SSD but for some reason files only save on my SSD and i cant save any on my HDD even tho when i go to check it says my HDD is on and active anyone know why?

[muted patio]

What....kind of files? Whatever program you're using to download, you need to tell it where to save the files instead of the default location.

[lusty gazelle]

like documents for school and such i wanna have mainly games on my ssd, not all of my games but the ones im gonna play the most. Also i tried that it said can't access file location.

[muted patio]

Which drive is the OS on?

[lusty gazelle]

For ex i downloaded steam and when it said where do you want to save this file i chose my HDD for it and it kept saying cannot access this file location

[lusty gazelle]

SSD

[muted patio]

Where did the HDD come from? Previous Windows installation on it?

Brand new?

[lusty gazelle]

No both are brand new storage drives

[muted patio]

Ah

KK, stand by

Need to initialize it

Follow this guide to make it useable

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/disk-management/initialize-new-disks

[tepid agate]

im not into AMD but how well does the 2600x perform?

[rich helm]

Decent

If you can find one on sale for like 150 or so it would be a deal

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nqVG3C/msi-geforce-gtx-1650-4-gb-d6-gaming-x-video-card-gtx-1650-d6-gaming-x

Is there anything wrong with this

[rain scarab]

guys quick question do you know if the intel i7 9700k is compatible with the asus prime H310M-R R2.0 motherboard?

[lusty gazelle]

Alr i think it works now, took me a while. Thanks!

[gleaming quartz]

just look at the chipset of the cpu and the chipset compatibility of the board

[rain scarab]

Thanks i will take a look now

[muted patio]

YW

[tepid agate]

just match the socket type

[muted patio]

Uhhh

that doesn't work with intel

Just matching sockets

IN this case though, the 9700 will work in the H310

[tepid agate]

oh, idk about amd because ive never used it

my csgo knife :)

70 bucks

[verbal quarry]

so how much ram does one person really need for gaming?

[tepid agate]

8

[verbal quarry]

i plan on multitasking alot and playing big games

[muted patio]

16

minimum

[tepid agate]

8 will do fine

[verbal quarry]

well i have 8 rn and it runs pretty slow

[muted patio]

16, actually

[tepid agate]

its the speed

[muted patio]

Depending on how many tasks, 32 might even be needed

[severe axle]

@verbal quarry in dual or single channel?

[verbal quarry]

dual

[stoic island]

dual channel over raw capacity

[tepid agate]

3200MHz is best

[severe axle]

no

[stoic island]

2x8 mininum for triple a games

[severe axle]

3600 c16 is the sweet spot for ryzen

[verbal quarry]

i am going ryzen

[stoic island]

and intel does have boards with locked max freq

and then theres mobile

[severe axle]

crucial has a 2x8 3600c16 kit for $75

rgb one is $90

[stoic island]

oos atm

iirc

[muted patio]

White one still in stock

[tepid agate]

GDDR4X

[muted patio]

White w/RGB

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164221?Description=3600 C16&cm_re=3600_C16-_-20-164-221-_-Product

[stoic island]

don't think a g4x exists

[muted patio]

It got skipped

[tepid agate]

ima put rgb ram in my laptop

[severe axle]

thats not a thing

[tepid agate]

its a joke

[muted patio]

Hate to say this

[tepid agate]

wat

[muted patio]

But you can get RGB SODIMM's lol

[gleaming quartz]

really?

[tepid agate]

ik

[gleaming quartz]

huh

[tepid agate]

yea

haha

[severe axle]

ooh where

[muted patio]

ADATA had them i 2018

Maybe not anymore?

[severe axle]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12279/adata-unveils-xpg-rgb-ddr4-spectrix-d60-4600-ds40-led-sodimm this one?

[muted patio]

Yeh

[tepid agate]

yeh

[muted patio]

But I'm not finding anything in stock

Or even available so mebbe didn't really happen

[rain scarab]

thanks i will get that one instead 😄

[tepid agate]

get the G 100

300 Fps

and the Intel 4004

best for gaming

[muted patio]

@quasi scaffold What motherboard? Any error LED's lit up?

Can you take a pic of the connections to the motherboard inside the case?

[quasi scaffold]

Msi b450i gaming plus ac

I’m not even getting any error leds

[muted patio]

CPU fan connector

ON the top

Is it connected to the left or right port on the motherboard?

[quasi scaffold]

The mb connector is in

[muted patio]

CPU fan connector at the top

Of the motherboard

What's plugged in there?

[quasi scaffold]

Cpu power is in too

[muted patio]

Easier to diagnose in here

Without all the extra chatter

CPU fan connector at the top

Where is your CPU fan plugged in?

[quasi scaffold]

Cpu fan header

[muted patio]

The one on the right closest to the ram?

[quasi scaffold]

My case fans are plugged into a hub which connects to the pwm connector on the board

That’s the usb connector above the mb connector

[chrome arch]

Monitor not picking up

[muted patio]

how many fans on the hub?

[muted patio]

hoenstly, I would go back and check ALL your cable extension connections

[quasi scaffold]

I have 5 fans total

[chrome arch]

3 top 2 cooler

[quasi scaffold]

I’m gonna try removing the extensions entirely and see if that helps

[muted patio]

is the hub powered?

Like from a sata power connector?

[quasi scaffold]

Yes it’s sata powered

[muted patio]

Ok good

[quasi scaffold]

And it’s plugged in

[chrome arch]

@muted patio u sad king me or Caleb ?

[muted patio]

I would check all of your extension connections

[chrome arch]

Asking

[quasi scaffold]

The fans will kick on when I press the power button but then they go right back off

[muted patio]

It seems like something is unplugged

[quasi scaffold]

The ram will light up too but that’s it

[muted patio]

You said you cable managed and then it wouldn't start so

Somewhere in that is your issue

[chrome arch]

Yea.

[quasi scaffold]

I’m just gonna remove the extensions

[muted patio]

Try that first

[chrome arch]

@muted patio should I open the build ?

[muted patio]

Wait what?

[chrome arch]

My pc

Does CPu need two connection

Gpu

[muted patio]

GPU?

Yes, it needs both power connections

Without them it won't work

[chrome arch]

I have that in

The 6 pin

[muted patio]

In the pic there's only one cable though?

With a spot next to it on the right for another?

Upgrade from what?

So that's what you HAVE

Not what you want to upgrade to

[chrome arch]

Do I need HDMI and Dispaly in motherboard

[muted patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2W3yF8

No, one or the other

Not both at the same time

[chrome arch]

Thank god

Ya the Goats

What I do now ?

[muted patio]

Put Windows 10 on a USB drive, stick in a USB port and install

[chrome arch]

Good looks

Does it matter what port a HDD in ?

Sata

[muted patio]

No

no

[chrome arch]

I have my drive in but clicked m flash.

[muted patio]

Mflash is BIOS flash

[chrome arch]

How I locate my Usb

[muted patio]

Wait, what are you trying to do here, install the operating system?

Windows 10?

[chrome arch]

Na I did that

[muted patio]

Ok....so, what's the issue then?

[chrome arch]

Locate the the usb with window 10 downloaded

[muted patio]

So you haven't put Windows 10 on the PC yet?

[chrome arch]

Na

It’s on my lexar connects thou

Connected

[muted patio]

If the Windows 10 install media was set up properly, it should just boot from that

When you restart

If the Windows 10 install media was set up properly, it should just boot from that

[chrome arch]

So I need a 🔑

[muted patio]

not necessarily

Just go past that and keep installing

Can either not use a key or get one from Ebay or something later

[chrome arch]

Should I put pro

Or home ?

[muted patio]

Home is fine

[chrome arch]

What’s N?

[muted patio]

Windows 10 N?

[chrome arch]

Yea

[muted patio]

No media player

Just 10 Home

[chrome arch]

Is the 86 x 64 the micro architecture ?

[muted patio]

64

[chrome arch]

Upgrade or custom ?

I never done this

[muted patio]

custom

[chrome arch]

Sdd or HDD

[muted patio]

You mean SSD?

[chrome arch]

Yea

[muted patio]

ssd

[chrome arch]

Want me to sub to your twitch or yt

Any way I can help

[muted patio]

Nah man, I don't have either

let's get this thing running

[chrome arch]

Is second keyboard wlayout worth it

Layout*

[muted patio]

No

[chrome arch]

Can a Ethernet from a router extender work or my Xbox for internet ?

[muted patio]

Ethernet should

[chrome arch]

She’s done I’m heading to the store to get a longer Ethernet

Good looks

[muted patio]

Sweet!

Hve fun with the updates, worst part of a new install.

[chrome arch]

Have a great day

[muted patio]

You too!

[pseudo forge]

Hey does anyone know why blue stacks crashes my pc while installing?

[plush mist]

uh

do you have enough hard drive space?

tim cook

@pseudo forge do u have enough harddrive space

[pseudo forge]

Yeah lol

[remote bobcat]

extreme big brain

[paper temple]

You got virtualisation on?

[still roost]

kotoxri#5471 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pseudo forge]

How do I check that @paper temple

No @next flax

[paper temple]

Check the bios

[plush mist]

ok if he doesnt know if virtualization is on, then he probably doesnt have it on

not gonna lie

[remote bobcat]

probably

[hoary wren]

wat goi on

[remote bobcat]

bluestacks

[hoary wren]

no

[plush mist]

bluestacks is a pain in the ass

[hoary wren]

bluestack is bad

use haram hamood allahinator 3000

[plush mist]

you have to get an outsider uninstaller to be uninstall bluestacks

[pseudo forge]

Is there any other way to download psn app on pc without bluestacks?

[plush mist]

you cant just uninstall from windows

it just stays on your computer

you have to download software to uninstall bluestacks

[pseudo forge]

How do I pause my antivirus

[plush mist]

probably open the application for it

[remote bobcat]

is it windows built in or something else?

[pseudo forge]

Windows

This what happens when I’m installing

[remote bobcat]

;-;

dam

[plush mist]

daanggg

[pseudo forge]

I guess I’ll just leave it don’t wanna break my pc lol

I just wanna use the app for the psn app

What’s that?

[desert gulch]

@pseudo forge psn has an online website i think

id go that way

[junior locust]

Hi, im helping my friend get into PC gaming and he is looking to build his first computer and was just looking for a second opinion on the build i speced out with him. We used PCPartPicker to lay out the build and i was going to sell him my GTX 1080 as thats what he said he can afford and he also wants an intel build. If you want to reply just @ me https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FKq6K3

[verbal quarry]

so which is better 2700x or the 3700x?

because i see the 2700x has a better core clock while the 3700x has a better boost clock

but idk which one to go with

[eternal meteor]

I have a 3700x and it is fantastic,

[verbal quarry]

what ram are you running?

[eternal meteor]

4x8gb corsair low pro

the 2700x has CMOS
12nm FinFET and is gen 2, the 3700x has CMOS
TSMC 7nm FinFET and is gen 3

i think the 3700x will be better in the long run

corsair vengeance low pro to be exact

[verbal quarry]

whats the Mhz on that ram?

[eternal meteor]

3200mhz is what i went with

[verbal quarry]

ah ok

i was about to spend more for 3600 but i saw the 3700x only supports 3200

i just need to clarify with someone that its actually true