building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

im making a pcpartspicker list

i hope @stoic island helps

or @foggy hazel

[wanton cliff]

im offended

[little osprey]

oranyone

[wanton cliff]

they arent the only people who know PCs on this server

and naed is rarely on anymore from what I can tell

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/offended-offensive-rude-mean-personal-gif-13474228

[wanton cliff]

anyways

when you are done with that pcpartpicker list

[little osprey]

gimme 15mins

[fossil halo]

woah

best buy got a drop for 30 series going on

[muted patio]

Ye

I got one 🙂

[wanton cliff]

and they are all sold out

just like that

[muted patio]

Ye, gotta be on top of the drops

[wanton cliff]

snail monitor is useful

[muted patio]

Been hunting since October

XD

[wanton cliff]

which one did you get?

[muted patio]

EVGA

Of course

🙂

[wanton cliff]

i mean which card

3070, 3080, etc

[muted patio]

3070 XC3 Ultra

[wanton cliff]

a respectable card

[muted patio]

Same as my 2060

[wanton cliff]

ill take that 2060 off your hands

[muted patio]

LOL!

I have to make sure my order actually gets complete and I has the 3070 in my hands first

I mean, that they don't cancel the order

[slim escarp]

I need help

My cooler fits but when I slightly screw one side in the other side doesn’t reach the screw and if I screw it any looser the other side just pops out

[muted patio]

What cooler?

[slim escarp]

The stock one for ryzen 1600

[muted patio]

Screws are spring loaded

Push them down a little bit?

use a screwdriver too not your fingers

[wanton cliff]

why are they spring loaded?

i see no reason for that

[muted patio]

Even pressure

Keeps people from over tightening

[wanton cliff]

ah

[muted patio]

Even if you crank on it only X amount of pressure is on the CPU

[slim escarp]

I think I got 3 screws in but the forth doesn’t want to screw it

[muted patio]

Kitty corner

Loosen the one opposite of it across the cooler

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys for the lian li o11 dynamic case would I be able to install all my fans first then put the mobo

I am talking about putting the fans on the bottom

[muted patio]

MATX or ATX board?

[wicked frigate]

Atx

[muted patio]

mobo first

Then fans

[wicked frigate]

Why?

Would it not fit

Also should I get an aio

[muted patio]

I mean, it will be more of a pain if the fans are installed

So do whichever first you like

[wicked frigate]

How???

Ok

Should I get an aio

@muted patio what’s better Meg ace or rog strix both x570

[verbal quarry]

is crucial ram better or worse then trident z?

both are 3600 cl16

[wicked frigate]

I have crucial

I think crucial

What’s cheaper

[plush mist]

if they have same speed and are both cl16, theres not gonna be one that is so much more or less better than the other

in my opinion

[wicked frigate]

Guys what mobo is better Meg ace or rog strix

[muted patio]

Crucial tends to have tigher sub timings

[wicked frigate]

Both x560

570

I meant

[muted patio]

I mean, do you really need a $350 motherboard?

[cyan aspen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TcT3W3

What do you guys think of this build?

[muted patio]

overclocking heavily or something?

[plush mist]

Mmmmmm yet again i am giving out terrible advice

i should probably stop

[wicked frigate]

Maybe

[plush mist]

are you going for a maxed out build or smt??

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio which one is better

[muted patio]

Asus

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Does it have bios

Flat

Flashback

[muted patio]

yes

[wicked frigate]

Isn’t bios flashback where I insert a usb with the mobo latest update and plug it on the mobo right ?

[muted patio]

yes

no cpu

[wicked frigate]

Also should o get an aio

Ok

[muted patio]

Depends on the processor, case and other factors

[wicked frigate]

5600x Qi to lian li

3080

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FFcy4

@foggy hazel

@stoic island

[muted patio]

You're buying a $350 mobo for the 5600x?

[wicked frigate]

I am doing 6 intake with 3 exhaust

[muted patio]

Why?

[little osprey]

@wanton cliff

[wanton cliff]

nani

[plush mist]

yes if you are planning to overclock, buy an aio

[muted patio]

If 5600x, then B550

[plush mist]

much cooler temps

[wicked frigate]

Ok

So should I get an aio

Is it better than stock coolers

[muted patio]

You should spend less on the mobo for sure

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[little osprey]

what u think

[muted patio]

and yeah, AIO's are better but

[plush mist]

YES

ofc

u are overclocking

[wicked frigate]

Maybe

[wanton cliff]

cant comment

[plush mist]

right?

[wanton cliff]

dont know enough about intel

[muted patio]

Maybe

Depends on the AIO

[plush mist]

yea, with that big of a budget, you should be getting an aio

[muted patio]

Some air coolers are better

[plush mist]

or at least a beefy air cooler

yea

[wicked frigate]

So? Air cooler

??

[plush mist]

ummm

[muted patio]

DEPENDS ON THE CASE

[wicked frigate]

Lian li

[plush mist]

how heavy of overclocking

[wicked frigate]

O11

[plush mist]

like HEAVY or light

[wicked frigate]

Dynamic

Light maybe

[plush mist]

okok

[wicked frigate]

Idk yet

[plush mist]

then a rlly beefy air cooler will save some pain

probably

just my reccomendation tho

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2FFcy4

this

[wicked frigate]

Because if I shouldn’t get an aio than I will start putting my fans on that’s why

[plush mist]

so are u just going for a top of the line build?

[little osprey]

ANYONE

[plush mist]

@little osprey honestly prety good to me

solid

[little osprey]

ok

[plush mist]

so im guessing, u dont have ethernet?

[little osprey]

i have 1tb drive

[little osprey]

yes :c

and 120 boot

[wicked frigate]

Should I do 6 intake and 3 exhaust

[plush mist]

its ok

i dont either

[plush mist]

i reccomend neutral

[wicked frigate]

So?

[plush mist]

since you have such a powerful build, theres not a need for more intake

i think

[wicked frigate]

So 6 exhaust

[plush mist]

i get high temps, so i do 5 intake 1 exhaust

NONONONO

thats full negative pressure

[wicked frigate]

Oh

So 4 and 4

[plush mist]

yea

[wicked frigate]

?

[plush mist]

wait but u have 9?

[wicked frigate]

Yes

[plush mist]

ok, just do 5 in, 4 out

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[severe axle]

that might look weird

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[plush mist]

positive pressure is better for temps, but make sure to clean it out often

[wicked frigate]

Clean with

[hoary lichen]

Is this case good for airflow?

[wicked frigate]

Wut

[plush mist]

canned air, or just about anything

just wipe dust off

[hoary lichen]

I have a black case rn and want to buy a white one to match my desk

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[plush mist]

like do it once every 3 months

and youll be good

[severe axle]

@hoary lichen eh its alright, would not recommend it though

[plush mist]

like just clean the filters

its not too hard

[wicked frigate]

So should I do 4 and 4

[muted patio]

Glass front case = no good airflow

[plush mist]

wait dont you have 9 fans tho?

[severe axle]

probably better than h510 though

[wicked frigate]

Yes

[blazing aurora]

not necessarily

[plush mist]

so, 4 and 4 would be 8

[wicked frigate]

Yah

[plush mist]

so you would need 5 and 4

[hoary lichen]

The glass sticks out a bit

[blazing aurora]

your fans will be choked in the front with a solid front panel though

[muted patio]

Any time air has to turn, it slows it down. A lot

Even with spacers, it's not ideal

[verbal quarry]

doesnt the case he have top down airflow?

[muted patio]

Better than NZXT with holes but

Top down?

[severe axle]

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3515-corsair-icue-465x-rgb-case-review heres a review

[muted patio]

Heat rises, don't fight it

[verbal quarry]

lian li right?

[plush mist]

loll yea

[verbal quarry]

well i mean bottom top

[plush mist]

wait

[wicked frigate]

Wait so should I do 3 exhaust on top and 6 intake

[plush mist]

the lian li case is vertical airflow?

uh

[muted patio]

It CAN be

[verbal quarry]

with the glass front i thought it was

[wicked frigate]

Wait I am so confused I am new so I don’t know

[plush mist]

bruh i thought most cases were just from right to left

[muted patio]

Lian Li has fans on the backside

[hoary lichen]

Im have a bad cooler master case rn

🗿

[muted patio]

The side panel you only open to look at messy wires

It's weird

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio can u help me out

[plush mist]

ok, so do a lotttt of research, like know what each component does, research the case, everything, how to build from beginning to end, it will save ur ass

trust me

[hoary lichen]

Any recommendations for a white case under $110

I can spend 300 but dont want to on a case

🗿

[severe axle]

4000d airflow white

td500 mesh white

[plush mist]

td500mesh

comes with fans pre installed

[verbal quarry]

i plan on getting a rosewill prism case. i dont plan on oc anyways

[wicked frigate]

@plush mist help

[plush mist]

yes?

[wicked frigate]

Wut should I do

[plush mist]

for?

the fans?

[wicked frigate]

And the case yah

I am so confused

[plush mist]

yea im gonna have to look up the o11

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[plush mist]

not familiar at al with that case

[severe axle]

for o11 I see 6 intake 3 exhaust

[plush mist]

is it the dynamic

[wicked frigate]

I friended u

Yes

Do me

[plush mist]

yea

[wicked frigate]

Dm me

[verbal quarry]

the best i can say is to 3 exhaust at the top and then do intake

[hoary lichen]

The td500 mesh white looks good

🗿

[verbal quarry]

since it has a glass front

[hoary lichen]

Ill get it

[hoary lichen]

Thx for the suggestion

[wicked frigate]

Should I do 3 ex and 6 in

[severe axle]

with the exhaust on top

[wicked frigate]

What’s better 980

Or sn 850

Yes

@severe axle yes

[muted patio]

@ornate flume what board do you have now? for the 9700K

[slim escarp]

I did a test beck and everything worked do you think one screw being loose in the cooler is that much of a problem

[muted patio]

Yes, it is

needs even pressure

[slim escarp]

Ok

[ornate flume]

I have a gigabyte Aorus pro wifi

[muted patio]

What chipset?

IE, Z390, etc?

[ornate flume]

z390. it's a

its a 9th gen i7.

i7 9700k

[muted patio]

Are you on the latest BIOS?

[ornate flume]

up. that's the first thing I do is bring the bios up to current.

[muted patio]

KK

What ram exactly?

[ornate flume]

Patriot viper ddr4 2x16 3200mhz

[muted patio]

And it won't XMP to the rated speed past 2666?

[ornate flume]

nope. I've been trying since 6am this morning to figrure out why. I cant see an xmp setting in the bios and the bios only recognizes 1 DIMM

[muted patio]

Side by side slots?

Or spaced out?

[ornate flume]

this is the 3rd board that's done that. the other 2 were RMA'ed. Meh... semi spaced. there's enough rooom for heatsyncs

and yes, 4 side by side.

[muted patio]

Ah, 4 dimms total. Not two sticks

[ornate flume]

no, 2 sticks.

[muted patio]

Sory, you said 4 side by side. Should be A1/B1 or A2/B2

Every other slot

[ornate flume]

yep. I have the ram in a2/b2

[muted patio]

And it's only recognizing one stick?

SOunds like defective RAM then

Or possibly a defective CPU with a bad memory channel

[ornate flume]

3 different sets?

2 cpus??? lol. Trust me, it's sad.

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio what better sn850 or 980 pro

[ornate flume]

I have a 9700 (no k) that does the same thing.

I've heard that if it's not on the QVL you're toast.

[muted patio]

Eh, that's an old wives tail TBH

More importantly with that many different combos

[ornate flume]

I know... that's why Im befuttled.

[muted patio]

It sounds like something isn't mounting properly

What CPU cooler?

[wicked frigate]

@muted patio what better sn850 or 980 pro

[muted patio]

I don't know about those drives

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[muted patio]

haven't read reviews

[ornate flume]

I have a deep cool and a thermaltake. I've tried both. Ive evened loosened one so it's not go so much downward pressure. (They still have more than enough though).

[mossy pine]

Hi. I have a very, very old laptop that runs extremely slow. Is there any way to speed it up

The laptop is a compaq presario cq57-229wm running windows 10 with 2gb mem

[ornate flume]

the mem would help. getting a faster HDD or an SDD would help. I don't recommend SDDs for laptops if it's going to sit.

[sonic pasture]

I have a question because I want to get a new computer and I have saved up so far a total of 800 dollars and was wondering if there is a prebuilt that you know of having good specs

[mossy pine]

So upgrading it and maxing it to 8gb would make a big difference?

[muted patio]

Yes

https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/hp---compaq/presario-cq57-229wm

two 4 GB sticks

[mossy pine]

I think its too old for ssd

[ornate flume]

It makes some. I have a 2nd gen i5 that pepped up after adding another 4gb

[muted patio]

It's SATA 300 so an ssd would work but I'd get a 7200 RPM hard drive instead or something

[ornate flume]

definately 7200rpm. those 5200's will make you like the morning newspapers lol.

[mossy pine]

It take 10 minutes now just to load chrome browser

[ornate flume]

yeah.... more ram. it's cheap.

[little osprey]

LMAO

[muted patio]

Dual core processor gonna be slow no matter what though

[little osprey]

nice one

[ornate flume]

no... actually considering what it was.... it's a step up.

not a flight of stairs but a step lmao

[slim escarp]

I looked it up I guess it’s a problem that occurs a lot with the 1600

[mossy pine]

Id like to get a faster one or tablet but dont really have the money

[muted patio]

Try rotating the cooler 90 degrees

[mossy pine]

I have 2 laptops one is intel and other is amd bith basically same model

[ornate flume]

on the gigabyte? did that too.

[muted patio]

no, @slim escarp

[slim escarp]

If I do that should I worry about thermal paste because I don’t have any

[muted patio]

oof. You'll need some

Or loosen the screw opposite and put the PITA one in then the other one?

[slim escarp]

Huh

[ornate flume]

no screws. It has those push/click pins

[muted patio]

Not the Rzyen 1600 that Novey has

[ornate flume]

oh lol

[muted patio]

Your situation

I mean, if a ram stick isn't showing in BIOS through multiple CPU and motherboards, the ram is most likely bad

[mossy pine]

Thanx all

[muted patio]

https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/hp---compaq/presario-cq57-229wm

That link is to the ram

[slim escarp]

I can here the screw scraping so it’s needs like 1 mm more

[muted patio]

$45 for a kit for your laptop

[mossy pine]

Couldn't i get a newer tablet for like 60?

[cyan aspen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TcT3W3
How is this build?

[small osprey]

What if it was 100ghz

Not slow

[ornate flume]

2nd set of new dimms, 3rd new board, 2 different brand new processors... still the same thing. The bios says it's got a measily 1gb for A2 and doesn

doesn't show any timings.

swap the chips between A and B and both register.

[slim escarp]

The worse part of this is I’m in the middle of class

[ornate flume]

I've been putting boards in PC's since the 386 and this one has me utterly baffled. That's why I asked if Asrock had something comparable?

[plush mist]

whats a rlly good aio

[muted patio]

EK

[ornate flume]

or Asus... or ANYTHING other that a Gigabyte.

[muted patio]

Z390 yeah?

[ornate flume]

yea

[slim escarp]

I got it in but it won’t screw down any lower it’s like the screw is too fat or something

[queen moth]

Will this increase performance?

[outer heart]

oh no

poor guy

[dull wyvern]

OH GOD

[ornate flume]

I have a z170 MB that recognizes all the new ram I put in it. The issue is it's a 7th gen i5. My Haswell i5 4690k ate it for breakfast.

[dull wyvern]

top ten images taken moments before disaster

[muted patio]

Asrock has one yeah

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157852

Or the Asus TUF

[ornate flume]

ok, cool. has the wifi, the bluetooth and all the other goodies? lmao

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-z390-plus-gaming/p/N82E16813119153

Cheapest Z390 WiFi boards

[ornate flume]

I can pass on the LED stuff. I need a 22120 M.2 that has windows on it.

[slim escarp]

Yay I got it after 1 hour of screwing my arm hurts

Should I screw it until the bottom screw reaches

[muted patio]

Yes, until they all stop

[slim escarp]

That screw is so f’d up it makes a loud noise when I’m screwing it in and it looks thicker than the rest I think that’s why it was so long of a process

[ornate flume]

I'll look into the two boards you suggested. Gigabyte tech support doesn't exist.

Thanks for the help!!! wish I could figure this giga.... trssshshh out... lol

do you think 8gb is it's limit per DIMM?

Nah... still beating my head over it is all.. Thanks. Honest.

[muted patio]

no

Limit is 128GB so, 32 per dimm?

[ornate flume]

well gang, Im off to eat. my stomach's called a cab to the airport so ty again!

[vernal delta]

I was trying to upgrade the RAM on an ASUS mini desktop. The new module causes the computer to randomly reboot. Any ideas why it isn't accepting the new memory? Crucial said it's compatible.

[muted patio]

Did you leave the old stick in or replace it?

[vernal delta]

I put back in the old stick. It works fine

[muted patio]

Probably need a Clear CMOS for the BIOS so it can recognize the new ram speed and timings

Easiest way is to shut it off, put in the new stick, unplug from the wall, remove the button battery for 2-5 minutes. Reinstall battery, plug back in and boot it up

[vernal delta]

OK will try it one more time. Otherwise I will live with the original configuration. Thanks

[slim escarp]

2 questions what do I do with the metal things on the back of the io shield and is this supposed to be like that

Look at the hdmi

[severe axle]

that is the wifi antennas connect to

[wanton cliff]

what are we talking about here

troubleshooting I hope

[muted patio]

There's metal tabs in front of the HDMI port

Fold them down

[zealous edge]

Hey Vint

Whats a good CPU benchmark software?

[wanton cliff]

Cinebench R20 is usually a good one

[zealous edge]

Ok

[wanton cliff]

Dont look at it for a stress test tho

[zealous edge]

Ok

[hoary lichen]

My wifi has been dog water today

🗿

[wanton cliff]

me when my modem got sprayed with feces water from my boiler room

[zealous edge]

72C For a 9900k 100% load is good right?

[muted patio]

I'd say so

[zealous edge]

Alright

[wanton cliff]

Considering how hot intel chips get

id say yeah definetely

[slim escarp]

What do I do how to I move those things on the shield

[muted patio]

You don't

They're like springs

Just push a little bit and put a screw in to hold it

[slim escarp]

Ok

[bold glen]

if I send my pc fart picker list could someone give me some tips / rate it

it's my first time building a pc

[wanton cliff]

fart

funny

[bold glen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LT7M4d

rate the build ⁉️

[wanton cliff]

2 things

well 3

a 2060 is very not worth it

i would get a 3070 for that money

[bold glen]

ok I was thinking of getting a 1660

[wanton cliff]

no

that is even worse

if you have 700 to spend on a gpu then get a 3070 or 3080 FE

[bold glen]

i only have like 300 left to buy a gpu

[wanton cliff]

then why did you put down a $700 gpu?

[bold glen]

also I have a hard drive in the list it just didn't update for some reason

I plan on buying used

I just put it there for aesthetics

[wanton cliff]

ok

[bold glen]

or I'll just buy a new 1660

[wanton cliff]

for 300 you get a 1660Ti or spend a hundred more to get a 3060Ti, which is much better

and by much i mean MUCH

[bold glen]

ok I'll consider it

[wanton cliff]

as for your storage

512 would be good for your OS and maybe a few of your favorite games

[bold glen]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

but you are going to want a 2tb hard drive or something along with it

[bold glen]

I have a 2 tb hard drive

yeah

[wanton cliff]

ok nice

and last things last

your cpu and cooler

[bold glen]

ok yeah 3060 looks pretty good

[wanton cliff]

a R5 2600 for $200 isnt good

[bold glen]

I know

it's super inflated in price rn

[wanton cliff]

MSRP for a R5 3600 is 10 bucks less and its a better CPU

and that one you can actually find a lot better than most other things too

[bold glen]

what's the difference between r5 and r5 2600

[wanton cliff]

R5 3600 is a generation ahead

better performance

to put it simply

[bold glen]

ok

I'll have a look

[wanton cliff]

also the Hyper 212 Black edition is not the greatest of coolers, but I suppose it'll do for a 2600 or 3600

[bold glen]

ok

is a cpu something I should buy used

or new

[wanton cliff]

Also one more thing I just noticed: a Ryzen 2000 CPU cannot utilize more than 3200mhz RAM. You have 3600mhz RAM on your part list. Ryzen 3000 can, however, utilize this and more.

[bold glen]

ok I'll probably get the 3600

[wanton cliff]

and you can get a B550 (like a DS3H or something) for $10-30 bucks cheaper, it being a better board than a B550

[bold glen]

is the wraith stealth cooler that comes with the 3600 better than the one I have on the list

[wanton cliff]

sorry for being so thorough

[wanton cliff]

no

[bold glen]

no worries man any tips help

ok

[wanton cliff]

no problem

[bold glen]

ty 😊😊

[wanton cliff]

im here to help the uneducated

[bold glen]

also on pc part picker it says that the m2 slot shares bandwidth with sata 6.0 gb/s ports

will this be a problem I should worry about?

nd if so how should I edit the list to fix

[wanton cliff]

no

this is on every list as far as i know

just know which Sata ports dont work

[bold glen]

ok!

thanks for the help again

[wanton cliff]

np

[muted patio]

Only the 2nd M.2 slot will affect the SATA Ports

So use the top one

@bold glen

[wanton cliff]

lmao

i used the bottom M.2 port on my dad's pc that I built for him

totally forgot

I should switch that at some point

eh, he doesnt use HDDs anyways

or SATA SSDs

[fossil halo]

bruh

[bold glen]

ok

[fossil halo]

gigabytes rgb software is a$$

[wanton cliff]

facts

Aura and Chroma are where it is at tho

[fossil halo]

isnt even detecting my ram

kekw

[wanton cliff]

hate it when that happens

Aorus is kinda a joke

[bold glen]

my friend was telling me how my psu was non modular, will this be an actual problem or more of just a visual/ cable management thing

[fossil halo]

wait bruh

the picture came wrong

the fans were all green

and the ram is stuck at that color

[muted patio]

non-modular isn't an issue

Just a pain to cable manage, that's all

[fossil halo]

yea

omg fr tho

i have a non modualr

[wanton cliff]

itll be more of a 'itll be a little bit more annoying to build this' kinda thing

[fossil halo]

real lpain bc i dont even use half of the sata power connectors

[muted patio]

This is non modular. Works just fine.

[fossil halo]

and also i have a gt 710 which draws all the power fromthe pcie slot kekw

so then i dont even need the gpu power cable

[wanton cliff]

nice

[fossil halo]

wow

vintage racer thats really nice cable management

[muted patio]

That's a really nice case XD

[wanton cliff]

ketchup and mustard

[muted patio]

Phanteks P500A, only $100

[wanton cliff]

ew

[fossil halo]

my technique is called shove everything into the hard drive bay

[wanton cliff]

cheap

[muted patio]

Color doesn't matter if you can't see the cables

Not cheap

[little osprey]

@muted patio 🔥

[bold glen]

coom worthy cable management

[muted patio]

old

[fossil halo]

fr

i mean my case is dlm 21 mesh

[wanton cliff]

first rule of Cable Management: if you can't see it, it doesnt exist

[muted patio]

Exactly

except I know what's in there

[wanton cliff]

no you dont

no one does

[muted patio]

I wire my cars and motorcycles the same way

Loomed and everything

[wanton cliff]

I dont do cars lol

[fossil halo]

fr

[muted patio]

Can't tell anything has been added

OCD sucks

[wanton cliff]

ADHD sucks too

[fossil halo]

lmfao lemme send a picture of my cable management

[wanton cliff]

I actually did my cable management really well for my first time

on accident too

[wanton cliff]

only cables you can even really see are 2x8 pin for GPU and fan cables (which are under the GPU and totally out of the way)

[fossil halo]

beauty

[muted patio]

I mean, that ain't bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

my usb mic isnt working anyone know any solutions to fix. its a headset mic(sry if this wrong channel)

[little osprey]

🤣 @fossil halo

[muted patio]

Try USB 2.0 instead of 3.0

[wanton cliff]

which mic

[gleaming ginkgo]

headset mic

[wanton cliff]

brand name?

[fossil halo]

cehck if its the right audio input source

[wanton cliff]

model name?

[muted patio]

Yeah

Input source or USB 2.0 vs 3.0

WIndows Sound settings

[fossil halo]

like in the app

[wanton cliff]

shoudnt matter too much

[muted patio]

Actually

It does

[wanton cliff]

does it?

[muted patio]

A LOT of them pitch fits if used in USB 3.0 ports

[gleaming ginkgo]

onikuma is brand

finding model rn

[wanton cliff]

thanks

Im going to be using this thing a lot

[fossil halo]

jeez

looking at that brand

[muted patio]

Yeah

[fossil halo]

i wouldnt be surprised if the headset is dead

[muted patio]

USB only for lights looks like

And OP will need a Mic/Speaker splitter

Cuz the one cable is a dual mic/speaker 3.5mm

[fossil halo]

wait what does op even mean

[muted patio]

Like for cell phones

[fossil halo]

i see it everywhere

[muted patio]

Original Poster

[fossil halo]

oh

[wanton cliff]

nice web design but the products look like the dump I took last week in the woods

[fossil halo]

and what is oc

[fossil halo]

fr lmfao

[muted patio]

oc is usually overclock

or

Of Course

[wanton cliff]

or Original Content

[fossil halo]

yea i think its what sara said

like ik it for overclock

and for of course isnt it ofc more than not

idk i use thta

[muted patio]

@gleaming ginkgo you probably need one of these https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Splitter-Computer-Smartphone-Headset/dp/B01MQZ2023/ref=asc_df_B01MQZ2023/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=226131567976&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17874030332214934900&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033547&hvtargid=pla-382920953199&psc=1

[wanton cliff]

ofc is 'of f*cking course' but I read it the way you said

[muted patio]

Those headsets have a combo 3.5mm jack, won't work with a PC

[fossil halo]

lmfao

i actually didnt know that

[fossil halo]

or just get a proper mic

[muted patio]

Or spend $7 to make what they have work

[fossil halo]

fifine k669b#1 best choce

[wanton cliff]

snowballs are pretty good

[fossil halo]

i have a k669b

i think it sounds better than snowball

[wanton cliff]

Snowball is better. Go ahead, @ me

[fossil halo]

cheaper too

[muted patio]

My HyperX is actually pretty good

[gleaming ginkgo]

Onikuma K5-M

[fossil halo]

@wanton cliff i would like to say that the fifine k669b is better than the blue snowball and is of less price, offering the assumption that is it superior

[wanton cliff]

there isnt a search function on the site

[muted patio]

Ok

USB is only for lights

Need the splitter cable that came with your headset

[fossil halo]

yea

i used to have that issue

then i used to use my webcam mic

then i got a proper mic for christmas

[wanton cliff]

we can both agree that the Wave3 is the best streaming/recording mic tho for everyday use

[muted patio]

Bottom picture

[fossil halo]

idk much about expensive mics

[muted patio]

@gleaming ginkgo

[wanton cliff]

from Elgato. Look it up.

[fossil halo]

i mean my mic sounds fire anywayt

so i dont think i need anyrthing more

i need a boom arm thats about it

i would very much like a boom arm

[weary galleon]

for gaming/VC just get a semi-decent headset mic and use VoiceMeeter

[wanton cliff]

same

[fossil halo]

tf is voice meeter

[gleaming ginkgo]

oo ok ty

[wanton cliff]

DE-DE-DE-DE-DELAY!!!!

[muted patio]

YW

[fossil halo]

this unremovable cord kinda annoying

tho

[wanton cliff]

snowball cord is removeab;e

comes with dragonpad too

[fossil halo]

yea maybe the one thing that is better

[weary galleon]

I haven't had any issues with delay, there's obviously a little but nothing major

[fossil halo]

wiat but what is voice meeter

[wanton cliff]

probably some sound cleaning software

[weary galleon]

https://vb-audio.com/Voicemeeter/index.htm

[wanton cliff]

a good sound card does that the same

[fossil halo]

i mean mine is just plug and play idk what thing it came with

liek some drivers or something

but i have outemu blues

so then when i type apparently its hella loud

[wanton cliff]

Razer Mamba wireless here

clicks wake the house

loud as demons straight outta hell

a mouse not kb but still

[weary galleon]

same with my deathadder elite actually

mostly the left click

[wanton cliff]

deathadder elite is a lot quieter in comparison

[weary galleon]

really?

dang

[wanton cliff]

i have one right here next to my mamba

clicking both of em side by side

mamba is a hell of a lot louder

dont get me wrong, both are pretty loud

but still

[fossil halo]

i got a g703

[wanton cliff]

the thicc mouse?

the heavy one?

[fossil halo]

nah i think its just a wireless g403

[wanton cliff]

ah

[fossil halo]

yea its literally just a wireless g403

[wanton cliff]

pretty bland looking tbh

especially compared to a Mamba or Deathadder

[fossil halo]

I mean I like it

And I got it for 20$

[wanton cliff]

I suppose they look similar from the top

only main differences in Logo and RGB on the wheel

and the DPI button I suppose (never liked Logi's DPI button)

[raw mist]

anyone know when the r5 5600 non x model will come out?

[wanton cliff]

dont know if it even will

no announcements or leaks

[muted patio]

hasn't even been announced yet

Yup

[wanton cliff]

considering the lack of leaks i doubt there will be one

[little osprey]

🤷

[severe axle]

didn't they only release one version of each cpu for a reason?

they wanted to prevent everyone buying the cheapest one(non x) and no one buys the x/xt

so then why repeat it

[wanton cliff]

plenty of people buy x

not xt tho

[severe axle]

the value of the non x though

[muted patio]

I mean, they always do it that way

Then they start taking the silicon that doesn't make the cut and start making other processors with it

If yields are good, takes a while to get the lower binned stuff

[gleaming ginkgo]

I found the split thing and the mic and audio works but the audio is worse now

but when i plug the two into the bac its way better

but the mic doesnt work

[muted patio]

Green for green and Red into pink?

[gleaming ginkgo]

yea

[muted patio]

Windows SOund Settings, make sure the Mic is selected there

[wanton cliff]

sacrificing audio quality worth imo unless its really bad

[gleaming ginkgo]

but at the front of the pc when i plug the two things in the mic works

[wanton cliff]

control panel too

[gleaming ginkgo]

ok i do that

[wanton cliff]

wait

front panel works but rear I/O doesnt?

lol

[muted patio]

Yeah

that's.....odd

[wanton cliff]

i mean

if it works

it works

lol

[wicked frigate]

Guys what’s better sn850 or Meg ace

[wanton cliff]

for mobos?

[wicked frigate]

Also what’s a good aio

Name

[wanton cliff]

hold on

[severe axle]

arctic freezer ii

lian li gallahad

[wanton cliff]

A: why you want an AIO

B: are you talking about Mobos?

[wicked frigate]

What do I mean mobo

[gleaming ginkgo]

ty now it works

[wanton cliff]

motherboard

[gleaming ginkgo]

i didnt change anything but now it works for sum reason

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Ik

[wanton cliff]

ok, odd

[wicked frigate]

Yah

They go on mobo

Samsung 980 pro and wd sn850

Which one is better

[wanton cliff]

oh

980 pro by a mile

[wicked frigate]

How

[wanton cliff]

faster

and PCIe 4.0

[wicked frigate]

Sn has 5.3 write speed

[wanton cliff]

hold on

[wicked frigate]

And 980 has 5k

[wanton cliff]

@hollow grail

[wicked frigate]

@wanton cliff I want an aio for better performance

[wanton cliff]

both are the same in 1tb models according to amazon

[wicked frigate]

And does it keep cooler temps than air coolers

[little osprey]

depends

[wanton cliff]

except 980 pro has PCIe 4.0 supports

[wicked frigate]

What’s the read and write sipped

[wanton cliff]

sometimes

[wicked frigate]

Speed for both

Ok

[little osprey]

good air cooler might be better or equal as a AiO

[wicked frigate]

Like which . One

And I am going for performance

[wanton cliff]

Asus ROG Raiju

no lmao

dont do that

[wicked frigate]

Is 980 better

[wanton cliff]

yes

[wicked frigate]

How

[wanton cliff]

short answer

better for gaming

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Because I sn has better

Write apples

I thing

Speed

[wanton cliff]

in 1tb models they are both the same except 980 is PCIe 4.0, 850 is PCIe 3.0

a full generation ahead

either way you are getting a good deal

970 EVO Plus is best price to performance

980 pro is just best

[wicked frigate]

Is this right

[wanton cliff]

yes

why else would I say it?

[wicked frigate]

That

[wanton cliff]

lol

oh

[wicked frigate]

That why I am asking if it’s better

[wanton cliff]

yeah one sec

samsung doesnt say the write speed on amazon

[wicked frigate]

Ohhhj

It’s 5k

So sn better

[wanton cliff]

on paper, yes

[wicked frigate]

What’s paper

[wanton cliff]

I trust Samsung more with hard drives than WD tbh but they are both good companies

[wicked frigate]

Like actual paper

??

[wanton cliff]

metaphorical

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Also

[wanton cliff]

is english not your first language?

[wicked frigate]

What’s great aio

Nooo

[wanton cliff]

makes sense

[wicked frigate]

What’s a great aioooooooo

[wanton cliff]

IDKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[wicked frigate]

Ok

What’s good mobo

[severe axle]

arctic freezer ii

[wicked frigate]

Any other ones

[severe axle]

lian li gallahad

[wicked frigate]

I want a 360

[wanton cliff]

like Vem said tho, you can get just as great or better performance on a aircooler

[wicked frigate]

Which air cooler than

[wanton cliff]

240 is the only worth it size IMO, after that temps stagnate

[wicked frigate]

Oh I am 9 fans

[wanton cliff]

DeepCool Assassin III

[wicked frigate]

Lian li o11

That’s why

[wanton cliff]

ahhh

yeah

[wicked frigate]

So I shouldn’t get a aio

[wanton cliff]

thats a good watercooling case

[wanton cliff]

what he said i guess

[wicked frigate]

I am not doing water cooling

[wanton cliff]

an AIO is watercooling

[wicked frigate]

Ok

But I am not full water cooling

I meant

Only an aio

What’s better rog strix or Meg ace

[wanton cliff]

yeah but an AIO is watercooling for people who have never watercooled before

[wanton cliff]

which strix or meg board? B450, X570, B550, etc

[wicked frigate]

This is my first time

Build a pc

X570

[wanton cliff]

TUF X570

not strix or meg

[wicked frigate]

Why

I don’t like tuf

I want rgb

[wanton cliff]

Asus TUF X570 has best VRMs and PCIe lanes on the market

and it has RGB

source: I have a TUF X570 board

[wicked frigate]

Any other ones

Beside that

[wanton cliff]

TUF X570 is hands down the best

[little osprey]

👀

[wicked frigate]

Besides that

[wanton cliff]

like I said, best VRMs and best PCIe lanes

[wicked frigate]

Is that true

[wanton cliff]

unless you got something to share, keep quiet please

[wicked frigate]

Why not rog or Meg

[wanton cliff]

yes. Why else would I say it?

[wanton cliff]

Asus is both TUF and Strix. ROG is their gaming brand. Meg is from MSI, who makes ok~ish motherboards

better than Aorus at least

[wicked frigate]

Ok I am using my pc for gaming and streaming

Nothing else

[little osprey]

I dont think its better than aorus to be honest

[wanton cliff]

so go for the TUF X570

[wanton cliff]

even better then

[wicked frigate]

Is there any beside that or no

[wanton cliff]

sure there are, but the TUF X570 board is the current best you can buy

relatively cheap too

[little osprey]

aorus elite have better vrm i heard

[wanton cliff]

people use that board?

lmao

[tender peak]

Hey people spend money for godlike, shrug its their dime lol

[wanton cliff]

lol

best TRX40 board in your guys opinion?

[tender peak]

Can't say, haven't really messed around with threadrippers tbh. Usually I stick with msi or asus when ti comes to mobo's never had a bad one.

[little osprey]

rog series is best as trx40 ig

[wanton cliff]

Zenith II is my favorite

[little osprey]

extreme ?

[wanton cliff]

yep

[tender peak]

I'd lean more towards the Zenith 2 as well, rog is usually just overpriced because of a name

[little osprey]

its good one yeah

[tender peak]

Kind of like the fatality series was for headsets.

[wanton cliff]

tbf rog boards are VERY good

[tender peak]

They have their ups and downs just like anything.

[little osprey]

Asus and Msi is still best as mobo ig . I like more msi couse components are really high quality

[tender peak]

I've been using both since athlon came out, also used other ones.

[muted patio]

MSI has/had really crappy VRM's for AMD though

[tender peak]

Its why I stick with them mostly lol

Build quality is there and you generally get what you pay for, just be sure to compare the components/slots and sizes first.

[wanton cliff]

Asus has best looking boards, best VRMs, best PCIe lanes, etc etc

[little osprey]

yep . in high end lines asus is much better

[tender peak]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=13-144-277%2C13-144-276%2C9SIAN0MBM84008%2C13-119-227%2C13-119-219 I hope the compare shows up right

Might be subtle changes in the compare but might be missing out on something you want more so than the other

[little osprey]

also I usually dont like gigabyte products but aorus series look real good

[wanton cliff]

it looks nice, yes

but the products are trash

[tender peak]

Yeah.

[wanton cliff]

especially for intel

do NOT buy Aorus for Intel

[tender peak]

Never liked them much to be honest, got better performance/realiability out of other products

[little osprey]

I using b450 aorus elite rn its pretty nice but yeah ordered msi mpg z390 for my new i7 9700k

[wanton cliff]

rip your 9700k

[little osprey]

d!ck]

[wanton cliff]

not saying its going to be fried but the chance is greater on that mobo in particular

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/deez-nuts-wild-hype-gif-17148593

[wanton cliff]

wait nvm wrong board

[severe axle]

wait what how are you using amd board with intel cpu

or do you mean b460

[wanton cliff]

z390 for intel?

he said new 9700k

[little osprey]

yep z390 is good for 9700k

[little osprey]

lol I have r5 3600 with b450 aorus elite but im not happy with it . ordered 9700k and msi mpg z390

[next crystal]

trying to get a friend some memory for his new 5600x. I don't think the samsung B die tax is worth it, so I'm trying to get him some E die. I think that any Crucial 3600 CL16 should be E-die, but I'm not sure. Any thoughts?

@celest horizon since you seem to know things

[celest horizon]

It'll be micron rev.e, yes

[wanton cliff]

whats the difference between the different dies?

[next kestrel]

different binned chips

for diff overclocking capabilites

[little osprey]

why people trying overclock lol just get better one xd

[tender peak]

Meh, slightly better performance for a shorter lifespan of the components never made much sense to me if done in extremes unless ya don't give a damn about your stuff.

Minor oc with a tweak here or there, no biggie won't really affect it that much in lifespan.

[little osprey]

yeah right . I just don't think it's worth it to everclock . i using cpu at stock speed and rams with xmp

[cursive wharf]

major OC is fine if you do it right, and depending on what you're OCing that's 10%+ more perf.
XMP RAM is usually kinda bad. Pretty hard to "just buy a better one" when stock timings/freq comes bad for the exception of very few high end dimms.

[strange hinge]

Y’all think a Ryzen 5 3600 & an ASRock B450 Pro4 is a good route to go for a first pc? I got a recommendation to go with a i5-10400 and a B460 Mobo but idk what is truly better since i am new to this

also hopefully something that doesn’t break the bank

[little osprey]

for gaming intel is best )

[little osprey]

For upgrading your rig in the future I would suggest the r5 3600

[wanton cliff]

until Zen4 comes out and Zen3 chips are cheaper

[wanton cliff]

Also Zen4 is going to be on AM5 so it dont really matter

[cursive wharf]

3600 gets better results then 10400 due to RAM compatibility.

[hollow grail]

intel cuter

[wanton cliff]

stfu lili

the one thing we dont agree on

[little osprey]

intel is still best for gaming xd

[hollow grail]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[little osprey]

Woah zen4 is coming!!!

[wanton cliff]

hasnt been announced yet but at some point, yes

[cursive wharf]

plz dont meme when helping others, it causes confusion

[little osprey]

meh amd is good for render performance but not that good for gaming

zen3 is decent for gaming
but too expensive imo

[cursive wharf]

if you get z390/z490 and get good RAM, yeah

[wanton cliff]

Zen3 better than new intel chips

[little osprey]

Zen3 just came out and the best processor is 5900x now (for gaming) which is also am4 but I would be expecting mobo issues

[severe axle]

well they can price it higher since it performs better right?

[cursive wharf]

also, Zen3 is pretty much equal or cheaper then Intel last I check
price isnt something to worry over to say "no zen3"
stock is the issue

[little osprey]

5900x is not the best processor for gaming lol
i don't think there is a game that uses 12 cores yet

[strange hinge]

do you say this because the chip is going to be compatible with a lot of new upgrade paths? or chip + mobo

[little osprey]

Wait then it's 5950x

???

[little osprey]

i7 9700k with z390 is performs much better than my firend's r7 3700x

5950x is 4 cores more than 5900x

[hollow grail]

chip and board will work with up to 5th gen ryzen

well board

[cursive wharf]

that isnt the issue. You dont need a game to use 12c+ to see gains on a 12c CPU. Lower CPU utilization means lower latency, thus either gives higher throughput (fps) or better input latency

[wicked frigate]

What’s better rog strix or Meg ace

[little osprey]

ah

[cursive wharf]

That's Zen2 for one, and for two you proved my point of needing z390/z490 mobo to get equal/better pef

else RAM speed is locked and perf is lowered

[little osprey]

yes 9700k and 3700x is about same price ( 9700k is cheap actaully ) and 3700x have much more benchmark pionts while its not that good in games

[cursive wharf]

and 5600x is also same price and outperfs both

in games

[little osprey]

Yeah the single-core performance

[cursive wharf]

also dont forget to compare cpu cooler+mobo costs

[little osprey]

Guys I need help with my aio can someone video call me to help

only thing i like amd is all mobos are unlocked xd

[hollow grail]

yeah im thinking of moving to amd sometime soon

just not sure on details

[little osprey]

@hollow grail no xd

intel is still best xd

[hollow grail]

right now im all intel except for one system

[little osprey]

Sorry for my question but Is the VRAM of the rtx 3080 enough for a 1440p 240hz gaming monitor and a 1080p as the second monitor for youtube, discord etc.( mainly playing Fortnite, Warzone, Apex Legends and CP). Also planning for the 5900x

Can someone video call me so I can get help with my aio

[cursive wharf]

yes, 10GB is fine for that

pretty much only run into issues sometimes at 4k

[little osprey]

Ah okay because Warzone does already take 8,5gb vram at 1440p

[little osprey]

I have one r5 3600 system but ill change it to 9700k too im not happy with it

[hollow grail]

i wouldnt do that lol

[little osprey]

Whats the issue (I was gonna build this year with r5)

[muted patio]

I mean

My 3700x is a beast at gaming

[cursive wharf]

are you sure it takes that much rather then allocates that much

[muted patio]

Not sure why you're 3600 isn't?

[hollow grail]

if ram is free, stuff will use it

[little osprey]

@hollow grail Thanks @cursive wharf Idk man

[cursive wharf]

What are you using to see usage?

[little osprey]

actually couse my storage problem . i have b450 aorus elite mobo and if you connect 2 x nvme ssd , you losing 4 sata ports that means it only have 2 m2 and 2 sata

[wicked frigate]

What’s a good aio

I need 360

[hollow grail]

thats an issue with the board

[muted patio]

That's a board issue lol

Not a processor issue

X570/B550

[hollow grail]

and if you need more than 4 drives you need a nas

[muted patio]

Pffff

[little osprey]

i know but if i dont like amd anyways lol xd

[wicked frigate]

@anyone

[hollow grail]

tell me im wrong smh

[little osprey]

Yeah I was worried with my build