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The motherboard manual
What is it
Come on
Mother board what is it
mpg z390 gaming edge ac
You're looking for pins on the mobo not the case
Looking at case manual won't do you any good
this too hard to explain
Jared got you
ik where the plug are in the motherboard bruh
but they are routed into two separate cables
all 4 fans are in 2 cables
those cables run into a box
two
Yes
and one open slot
I got 8 he only has 7 :p
ok one of the cables running out of the box is an rbg strip
the other is the hd audio cable
You don't need the rgb
no they are not
Wtf
ik i don’t need rgb
Cable, I mean
Plug them in any where
it’s a separate rgb strip
In those
Plug in the fan header anywhere
No rgb
Your saying the fans go into a box and an audio cable comes out lmao
Where there's a red circle
That comes later
Wtf u saying
yes lmao it doesn’t make any sense
Yeah I dunno what magic box he has
Plug the fans in
Wtf this man on
It's a fan hub obviously
Rgb comes last
idgaf about rbg
Yes
U sure its not a usb cable lol
hol up i’m gonna try to take a pic
@jagged ember can I get help lol
with what
My monitors will not connect and my gpu will only output though hdmi
Show the connecter that is on the other side
Alright I can’t reinstall cpu because I don’t have thermal paste with me
I saw something about this having someone thing to do with it though
The coin battery
Yes
Should I replace that
But that is only for off time
No need to replace
No that is if your time on your time is off
If necessary, take the battery out for 10 minutes
I’m just confused man. I don’t think I need to reinstall cpu. I just dusted out the inside my of pc
@wanton cliff for some reason my gpu will not give an out put on my monitors on li hdmi
I think one of the connectors is not plugged in correctly in the mobo. It would be the mobo right?
Oh then you don’t need to do a CMOS reset
No he was just dusting and he is now getting cpu error
Did you reseat RAM?
On his mother board
Take your ram out and put it back in
Only thing I did besides take my glass panel off is replug connectors for cable management.
Red is usually DRAM (not always tho)
May have plugged in the wrong thing or something. Maybe that’s it
Like I said, take RAM out and put it back in.
Alright hold on
Then when you do get it working re enable xmp
No not yet
We need to make sure it’s working normally first
Then we can do XMP/DOCP
I know I just don’t want it to not get turned on
Sucks to pay for what you don’t use
@wanton cliff can I get help now
With?
Nooo
Alright
It runs
Just to be sure, you have drivers installed? Shouldn’t be that important for output but just making sure
No, and now let’s look at your CPU real quick. Anything out of the ordinary?
No, nothing changed. Everything is the same
Wait did you put your ram back in?
And you heard the click when the RAM went in?
Yes both
Ok
Pins are up
Possibly
have you tried replugging it?
If it’s the DP out then it’s either the cable, GPU hardware, or monitor
I have 3 of them and non wort
The monitors worked today on my other pc
Gpu is a week old and is working with hdmi
All of the DP outputs don’t work?
Tried 3 different dp cables
Would it be something with this cable?
Let me try the ones that came in the monitor box
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/J26My4
This build good? Money isn't too much of a problem - will be purchasing a SATA SSD and RTX3090 to complete the build in the future (currently own a 2080)
If I can find them
Also not likely. What’s the other part of that plugged in to?
i think thats an rgb cable
Your CPU cooler is very poor for a 5900x, and your PSU won’t be nearly enough for a 3090
Also maybe go 3600 speed RAM
Should go with 3600 for Ryzen
Would you be able to suggest anything different? What I should look for? I'm relatively new to this
Try a 1000 watt
@stoic island can you look over his list? I’m dealing with 2 other people rn and you know CPU coolers and things like that better than me
To this under the power button
wat
Sorry for the ping
Look up a bit
I’m helping with troubleshooting
Someone needs build help
thanks guys ^.^
1000 watt is a little overkill. Anything 850 watt and up should be just fine
Can I have a few pics of the full build and where some of the problem cables are going?
But as long as it's modular...
He wants a 3090
gimme a sec
Maybe not for a 5900x tho. Also it’s good to go a bit over with the Ampere cards, on account of power spikes
So if I sub the current ram for
G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Which is actually cheaper, it would be better?
That works
yeah
nah I'm not fussed about RGB
But the extra frames 😂
haha
That is usd
At least
So less than pounds
someones actually gonna believe that tbh
I know
It is going to be so funny when it happens
I don't doubt it @little osprey
And subbing the PSU for
Corsair RMx 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
is good? Couldn't find a 850W that was >£5 cheaper than the 1000W
Aio
Any recommendations?
Baby
P500A is large, you can fit a good Air cooler in there
Or nh-d15
Safer and easier
@gusty jackal Looks like the variant of the case in your list is not the mesh variant..?
@stoic island oh?
Just make sure it fits the case. I've had people try to cram older high watt psu into cases that very much don't work. Not a big problem nowadays because they can be so much smaller.
At least from the overclockers.uk listing
The current case is ATX Mid, the 1000W is ATX, does that matter?
For nvida graphics cards you should be able to plug it in and the monitor gets picked up as a second right @stoic island
the image was just low res on my end, nvm
oh yeah it does look non mesh
@frozen junco Gets picked up as a display, it should, but it'll likely be on some random resolution and refresh rate without dealing with settings
so my case is good?
yeah
My gpu will not output a video other than hdmi
Check the other cables are actually working
I have a rtx 3060 ti
Okay so I saw someone suggest a better cooler - does anyone have any recommendations for 3900x?
he tried 3 dp cables none worked
Both ways on each
@gusty jackal rev 1
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vbdnNP
shaved cost down quite a bit
and 750w will work just fine if it's a 2080s
Reason for 2080 is I currently own one
That psu and case are compatible. So no worries there, just keep it in mind if you change the psu.
what a good gpu for gamer and streaming
I want to get this working
How much money you got
You could always get a $1500 rtx 3090
Lol
got that ltt mousepad 
Yep
don't matter
1200 mm by 700mm
If price doesn't matter, then as he said, RTX 3090 at 1500$
What’s your budget and current specs?
I wish I could get a 3090 and say ,”I am going to use it for gaming and streaming”
didnt nvidia say it was a more work based card?
i have Asus Radeon RX 590
coughs in LTT
Or with pockets a mile deep
Yeah but all the driver optimizations are for gaming
It’s just marketing
Who can really say they need a 3090 for work
true
Case deepcool matrexx 55
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i RGB
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (WI-FI
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB
Storage Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB M.2
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 590
Power Supply CORSAIR - CX-M Series 650W
Keyboard CORSAIR - Gaming K70 RGB MK.2
Windows 10 Pro
@frozen junco Could there be a setting for the monitors that's preventing DP?
In most cases a 3070 will be plenty
What’s your budget?
A surprisingly amount of people here would say they can use a 3090 lol
For a new GPU
and that CXm 650w is gonna be interesting
No it goes through hdmi vga then do
that my budget
Why 2 m.2
Just get a 2tb
How much can you spend on a GPU
Why not 2 m.2
that's what we're asking about
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TYhP7X
Okay so this is what I have now, is this good? Or should I change anything
sadly yea
I got a 1tb SX2800 and then a year later a 970 Evo plus, maybe he got them at 2 separate points in time
I can't find any good 850w psus for the price in the UK
I thought he is buying a brand new system
Just get a 1k watt then
130$ 850w Revolution D.F. so nice for US lists :P
Nah I think it’s his current build
I would get 1k watt. Ampere spikes power a lot and he has a 5900x
Id get 1600w
What if it did
5900x prob only gonna pull like 200w at the max
@frozen junco , are you getting just a black screen constantly or even a message saying no display port signal?
No signal
So you reckon this build can sustain 4k gaming?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/TYhP7X
@frozen junco actually now that I think about it, in windows settings, try this
maybe a bit more GPU power, but yea
Already did
Yeah, I'm gonna be upgrading to 3090 in future - but once there I should be grand right?
My monitors are not picking up the gpu
and have you tested the cables?
Leave everything plugged in. But unplug power for the monitors then then plug it back in and turn it on
No I have tried 3 different ones
Monitors only
Let me try to find the ones in the monitor box
Leave your pc on
@frozen junco one for streaming
Did not work
@frozen junco Have you tried using the currently working hdmi cable, and plugging into each monitor to make sure the monitors all work, then try different cables with the currently working display to make sure the cable is working?
I used the monitors this morning and they worked
With hdmi though
Could it be something with gpu settings
as long as you have drivers
Are your windows settings allowing for extending the desktop to X display?
I takes the hdmi cable and each of the monitors work
maybe just hope it's a coincidence and all of your DP cables failed xD
How do I do that
Like does the computer recognize that it should be using more than one output?
@wanton cliff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFkBNq this my budget
Please do me a favor real quick and look up the definition of ‘budget’
Ewww light mode
Ok lol
Have not logged into anything
700 to 1500
@wanton cliff Don't think Nvidia control panel has a dark mode lol
Oh I thought that was windows
One is
I have AMD cards
Radeon Software (or Adrenalin or whatever they call it) is in dark mode by default
The red on black actually looks pretty nice
Is that for the whole build or just the GPU?
oh yea, wonder if anything shows up here when you have DP plugged in @frozen junco
It is only showing the hdmi monitor
GPU
RTX 3090 Founders Edition is $1500 at MSRP.
How much for gpu
He said $700-1500
@wanton cliff they have a CXm 650w so
What’s the best budget build for 240fps?
Or 3080 for 700 gettable
prob step it down to like 3070
That’s right, forgot
What is the aMD card
or a 3080+PSU upgrade
That’s what I was thinking
the 6800xt stock is more non-existent than 3080
You would need to be on 1080p lowest settings
And there are no ‘budget’ 240hz monitors
@wanton cliff yeah that’s a given lol
The monitor is not the issue
More like pc components
gotta specify what you call "budget"
So like the cheapest you can do for 240fps
really really really depends
And what game
F
and run to run variation will destroy you
Apex, 2077, Overwatch
so it's better to just start off with a budget, and get the best PC you can get for the budget
2077 240hz xDDD
Hahahah
2077 240 fps
that's
lmao
impossible atm
Lol
3090 sli with DLSS performance doesn't get 240fps on 1080p iirc
rtx 3090 founders edition haveing in stock
if you have a 1080p 240hz monitor
you can just go like 3060 ti
So
I have a 3060 ti with dlss at 1440 p some epic it stays above 160 FPS
CPU light was on on my mobo. Took it off and I see it’s stuck on my stock cooler
Never drops below
Reason: Bad word usage
have any preference?
if you want get something cheap, go 10400/10400f since they are the best budget 6 cores CPU ATM
@frozen junco Last thing I can think of is a full restart where you have only a display cable plugged into a single monitor. Turn everything off, then turn on the monitor, then your pc and hope that it resolves its internal settings on its own. Best if luck to you!
this is the lowest I'd go @wheat onyx
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tk32z7
@little osprey I was looking at maybe the Ryzen 5 3600
*no HDMI use
they you have to wait few months for 3600 to reach a decent price
@stoic island thank you!!!!!
@scarlet gazelle sometimes it can happen. Take a Qtip with some alcohol and use it to get it unstuck
I messed with some stuff in settings and now it works
Let’s go
Okay
and this is why we twist when getting it out on ryzen :)
@scarlet gazelle twist
Thank you @cunning sundial @stoic island @wanton cliff and some others
all I did was play hoi4
😂
Sorry, me again...
Those who have experience with the P500A case, can you confirm that this build with fit together without any space issues?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/DLBDmk
Also if it will fit with a 3090 instead of 2080?
not decided yet
How do I connect the internet to my pc without a Ethernet
Probs Strix
WiFi
MSI Suprim is longer @wanton cliff
The zotac one
Yea but they are not showing up
I would probably choose the Strix, would that fit?
There’s my FE 3070 in a p500a case, for size reference
The zotac trinity garenty is longer
Trinity is 318mm from what I can tell..?
Ohh
Am I seeing that right or is it just barely fitting?
Barely fitting what
@gusty jackal By the way, the max supported GPU length on the P500a is 435mm, which is a LOT longer than what we're looking at
Fabulous, thanks guys 😄 (and gals)
Np
yw
and gals
Euphoria time
Day 56 of not being able to get a 6800, slowly dieing.
just go with a 3070 lel
Oof chat gamers
you'll have better luck
Now I need to cable manage every thing and do some stuff
Does it matter which way the cpu goes
Yes
It does
Did you get the cpu off the cooler
Yes
Ok there should be a golden triangle on the cpu
I think
No. Don’t have any
I’ll get some first thing tomorrow
I just wanna see if it’ll run
Ok
Screw in CPU cooler now (make sure it isn’t upside down)
Those things last centuries if kept right
He stopped using it because it was making crackling sounds
What was it?
What game is this
What was the crackling from?
Can someone find me a CHEAP kit of DDR4 16GB ram
Only requirement is not green and to be in dual channel
Define cheap
What speed
And what CPU
I can get a 2133 kit
CL?
How much
What speed
I mean speed would be preferably 2666
What CPU do you have?
But uh higher is fine OFC
If it’s Intel then you can go higher than... 2993?
10100
Ok so no higher than 3000mhz
Yeah
Like what price
Sub 50
Oof
Lowest possible price
Cheap
That is hard
Ripjaws is cheap right?
I can’t think of anything cheaper tbh
I mostly go AMD
*only go AMD
also 11th gen gonna have a new memory controller, to allow for a max of 3200mhz ram
Oh cool
I don’t need that fast
It’s not AMD but it’s still pretty high
It is not cheaper slower
thats is indeed nice and finally intel is making something good with their CPUs
You would think that it would be
Off brand from China
Where do you live you could try to get some 2nd hand somehow
Shipping is going to cost more than the ram itself I’m betting
Good point
Let me try Amazon
Not on the Newegg discord server you aren’t going to
There is nothing good. Newegg beats them once again
Yep
Here comes the guy who was having CPU issues
These holes don’t have any threads in them
How is that 3060Ti btw Jared?
Also the spring loaded screws don’t move idk how to explain it
I love it. Maxed out my monitor but they are not that demanding
What
why does his cpu look like shaved...
Reason: Bad word usage
It may have slipped through the back
I thought the screws were stuck in there XD
Thing just fell off behind the pc I didn’t even see this
did you rub sandpaper on your cpu?
He can’t reapply thermal paste rn so he is keeping the old thermal paste on until tomorrow
Pop the plugs out lol
lmao
Life Is A Highway is a good song
Or 5800xt
ty ty
Ted, what is your PFP?
@scarlet gazelle for an i9 you would need a new mobo
I know that song from cars
Was a great movie
Indeed
Intel and their weird sockets...
Does the backplate need screws
Or it just sits like that
And the cpu cooler screws are it’s screws
Can’t remember
Sits like that
Nice
Cooler screws hold it on
We ain't perfect
Speaking of, mind putting in a good word for me?
Decision isn't up to us
No, but it’s up to the mods, no?
Did you install the cooler?
Yes
Tbf this is a company server so I don’t expect that
Voting/nominating for what? Higher roles?
Never heard of that on a server, especially smaller ones
No for techie
Mike decides atm
People who have helped for many different things and can prove their knowledge
it just happens
Ok
It has worked in the past
Yes
Ryzen 5 3600
MSI Tomahawk B450
Worked everyday for the past 6 months
Just took off the glass and dusted it
It just stoped when he unplugged some stuff and dusted it
Just fans. Nothing with cpu nothing with like pcie ports
Mmmm
Just 4 pin connectors
Is that for sound?
There's your problem
Didn’t unplug that
Needs to be on the CPU FAN header
CPU_FAN
header
Lemme grab manual
upper right of board
By top of RAM slots
CPU_FAN1
Hmmm I just looked at a pic that I took of my pc a month or two ago when it was working
It was in that same place it is now
Plug into CPU_FAN pls
Ah but it looks like you had A fan plugged into CPU_FAN header
Below cooler
Gotcha. Can’t find cpu cooler though
That way if the CPU fan breaks it shuts down so you don't kill processor
Top right of board right next to RAM slots
JRGB and SYS FAN is all I see
Make that cpu cable look neater
Ye, probably a system fan that's not working
Or isn't PWM
Which is why the CPU light
Well, I hope it's that and not some damage when the backplate fell off the back of the motherboard
Which is entirely a possibility
I think the backplate fell off after all of this, when I unscrewed the cooler but couldn’t get it off
All fans are working though I don’t get it
And still CPU light?
Yeah
Mmmm, reset CMOS?
have you done that?
Ram sticks in the right slots?
A2/B2?
You're SURE the 8 pin CPU power is in correctly and not off by a pin?
Yes Ram sticks right slots, been taken out and put back in
What’s cmos
And yes I didn’t touch it. I’ll replug it
A guy had a similar problem and flash bios fixed it’s
Tried that button and it didn’t do anything
Monitor isn’t reading the pc either. It’s just blank
Well yeah, it will be until the CPU light goes out
No CPU, no initialization of anything
CMOS reset
Unplug from wall
Remove button battery
wait 3-5 minutes
reinstall battery
Start back up. BIOS reset
What i just described above
Do it. Last resort hail mary type thing, else mobo or CPU might be damaged.
Oh gotcha
Nope
Replugged these. They’re in the right place right?
I guess it’s possible I damaged a part by blowing air into it? I don’t know that’s all I did man
So I’m trying to download something off Firefox and it keeps opening tabs
There’s always a setting for download within tab not open tab on download
It’s for my wifi usb card
That's what happens when you go to the Optifine download page
You can prevent popups with a plugin
However
That sounds sketchy af
How do I download stuff from Firefox then
Don't download that thing lol
Go to the manufacturers website for the drivers
I need it or I don’t have wifi
NOT the first link in Google/Bing
There's an official Microsoft database for drivers and such
Yeah, I'm surprised windows 10 doesn't auto install a driver?
What card is it exactly?
Go to the Downloads folder
Is it there?
Windows Explorer, Downloads on the left side?
They're opening the zip in Firefox?
Yes
Open it in File Explorer
@scarlet gazelle I mean, it's possible, but if it worked before you took it apart and now doesn't, usually means something you plugged in is not correct
Right click file, choose Extract
I only took it apart after it showed the cpu light though
Anyone know how to use the flash bios button?
Do I just hold it down?
When you are cpu bound while playing on 1440 p
With dlss on to be fair
And fortnite is more on the cpu than gpu
That is what I was thinking
But it was weird that it was just from dusting
he says it happened before dusting
Cpu should get power form the 24 pin too so it is not like he plugged in the wrong cable
No no
It's POSSIBLE the PSU died too
After dusting
What did you use to dust?
Ok I unzipped them from my downloads
But I just blew air into it ;-;
Air from a can? Air compressor?
What is your cpu
Ryzen 5 3600
i'll check your connections
Cx650M PSU
Whoops I accidentally used my water gun instead of my blower to clean
Lol imagine
Can you try a different cpu connection
So in the pic they sent there was power to GPU assembled but not in the PSU pic they sent
So, wondering if something left unhooked?
@scarlet gazelle
Someone tell me Zadak Shield works with Asus Dark Hero...
Should have two power connectors bottom row of PSU
It lists Aura Sync compatible so it should
Hmmm
Yes
left hand bottom 8 pin to CPU
Sorry, right hand bottom 8 pin to CPU
left hand to GPU
Upper row is for sata drives, etc
Right okay let me check
Only able to do this
Because cpu won’t fit in the bottom left
It’s 6 pin
Yup. needs to be every other slot. Good catch!
Me?
Except for the pSU power cables. I think some are not installed right
@scarlet gazelle you with me?
Should have two 8 pin cables
One has 8 pin both ends, that's CPU power
The other has 8 pin one end, 6+2 on the other, that's GPU
Yeah, those are right
What you’re saying is all correct. But all that connects to the actual parts
The parts connecting to the PSU are 6 pin and 8 pin
Hmmm, lemme check the corsair site again
That doesn't sound right
Ohhh, I see
Kk
So the CPU power comes from the main big bundle
Okay
kkkkkkkk
Yes
Time for a new mobo?
Mmmm
I just dont understand
Gonna be hard to say without another CPU
Could be either
Take out everything
GPU, disconnect drives, take out the ram, leave just the cpu
CPU and power
See what lights you get
Something else just came to mind
Was the cooler hard to remove?
Did you pull hard to get it off?
@scarlet gazelle
Wondering if you pulled the CPU out of the socket slightly or did you take it out and put it back in>
Yes it was hard to remove
Removed cables from gpu and the ram, just cpu light still
Did you remove the CPU at all or just clean it?
Ok, take the cooler off. Lift arm, take cpu out. Check very closely for bent or broken pins
Okay
It's possible when you removed the cooler it pulled the CPU out of the socket a bit
Hm okay. But when I removed cpu the light was one
Yeah, without another CPU to test it could be the motherboard OR the CPU
All the CPU light means is the motherboard can't detect it
:/
I’m just going to get a new mobo tomorrow
Been doing well on the stock market and wanting to upgrade my pc anyways
This a good one?
Yeah! It's a bit overkill though.
Not sure if it’s what I’m going for I don’t need a wifi card
x570 edge wifi had bad vrm cooling
For a 3600?
Gotcha
but there are better options
Limted to Best Buy M-ATX?
Nah not limited to anything
Does it need to be mATX?
Just a mystery. Don’t know what caused this
Okay let’s assume all connections are working and in the right slots. Also that my cpu is fine physically. No bent pins or anything. What else could it be? Bad motherboard? Anything else?
Bad CPU
I mean I could issue the warranty on both
You could, yes. WIthout another CPU to test can't really know for sure.
Unplug from wall
Remove battery
wait 3-5 minutes
put battery back
plug into wall
Push button to boot
How tf do I remove this battery
WTF
that wasn't supposed to happen
I just told you to take the battery out
RAM just sparked and started smoking
Not blow it up
I was putting the Ram back in
Well
Only a bit though
not with it powered up??
LOL CPU LIGHT IS GONE
LMFAO
Hahahahahha
JUST HAD TO CATCH FIRE
... isn't the dram smoking
Idk man I just smell metal right now
Only visible damage I can see is this on the mobo
FOUND THE PROBLEM
So I’m guessing pc won’t work worth a damn now
LOL
Not going to lie my RAM stick straight up was smoking
Unplugged the PSU. Will update you guys tomorrow!

my fan speeds are cranking up even though the card barely gets hot
Lmao that's the reason why it's not getting hot

rip mobo
anyone heard when the 3080 ti is coming out?
@lime forge @muted sluice
GIGABYTE GAMING OC 5700XT
No, it came with the OC, I just disabled the power limit
Looks broken
does like 340W before it hits 110C
I already asked gigabyte support and they said that it was completely normal
I tried doing that
That behaviour is as determined by AMD and completely safe and expected. The GPU will raise voltage and clock speed until it hits 110C so the user is able to have the maximum performance avaiable.
And also what were u doing with the card that it hits a 110c
why did gigabyte say 110C is fine then?
And what there telling u is lies
people told me my 1060 should have been below 70C but I always had it at 92C
it still works
I have the H510i by NZXT