building-and-recc-chat

[fleet pagoda]

Yeh nothing happend

[lime jacinth]

Can someone help me with my cooler

[muted patio]

No fans, no lights?

[fleet pagoda]

Nope

[next kestrel]

1. power switch

[muted patio]

Ok, big picture motherboard

Whole thing pls

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[lime jacinth]

I’m having trouble with the thumbnuts

[next kestrel]

which cooler?

[lime jacinth]

Kraken x63

[next kestrel]

well uhh instructions are therer

because from what i remember it was pretty straightforward

[muted patio]

Unplug HD audio

Just for grins and giggles

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[muted patio]

Now, the FP connector you're using for the power switch on the top, is it labeled PWRSWTCH

[fleet pagoda]

Ye

[muted patio]

Or PWR

Dumb question

is the switch on the back of your PSU on?

[fleet pagoda]

The bottom right is reset sw and bottom left is hd led

Yes

[muted patio]

Unplug all FP except power switch

Reset might be stuck

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[muted patio]

Ummm

Where's your second M.2 cover screw?

Is your M.2 screwed in like it's supposed to be?

[azure cairn]

Alright

One last question

[fleet pagoda]

There isnt a screw for it

[azure cairn]

How do I connect this?

I feel so dumb and tired

[muted patio]

So is your M.2 screwed to the post or no?

Or just slotted in and held down with the heatsink?

[fleet pagoda]

When i touch the m.2 it pushed down

[muted patio]

Ehm

M.2 needs to be screwed down under the cover

Take M.2 out

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

M.2 is out

[muted patio]

Push button

[fleet pagoda]

Now what

I completely took it out

[muted patio]

The M.2?

It's fine

[fleet pagoda]

Should i still try and turn it on

[muted patio]

heck yeah

[fleet pagoda]

Nothing

[muted patio]

-_-

[desert gulch]

Big sad

[fleet pagoda]

So is the mobo dead

[muted patio]

NOt yet

[next kestrel]

try shorting it with a screwdriver

[muted patio]

NO

Don't do that

[next kestrel]

the power switch

[muted patio]

Where your other two fans are

[next kestrel]

might be an issue with the button

[muted patio]

Connected to the motherboard on the bottom

Pic of that area pls

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[hollow grail]

there are some people who should just buy prebuilts

tbh

[thorny tusk]

What would go better with a 5800x a 3070 3080

[muted patio]

Then I'd have nothing to do

I see a missing standoff and motherboard screw in that pic

[fleet pagoda]

Would that really matter

[hollow grail]

3080

[muted patio]

The missing one? no

But, it makes me wonder if there is one out of place somewhere it shouldn't be

[hollow grail]

my x399 board is held in with like 3 standoffs

[muted patio]

how did you test the power supply BTW?

[thorny tusk]

Would the 3070 still work

[hollow grail]

literal professional system builder btw

[fleet pagoda]

I was told to put a paper clip into the 3 and 4th thing on the 24 cable

[muted patio]

Shhh, it's our secret lili

No colors on those wires?

[next kestrel]

did the fan spin?

[fleet pagoda]

No

Nothing happend

Wait thw psu did

[next kestrel]

ok so its not a psu problem

[fleet pagoda]

Thw psu fan did spin

[muted patio]

Ye, PSU should have fan spin, you told me that

[next kestrel]

wait, vintage, why not try shorting the pins to see if it turns on?

[muted patio]

lThere were other things to try first

[next kestrel]

ok

[fleet pagoda]

He told me to put a paper clip into the power connector to see if that worked and it didnt

[muted patio]

I was gonna have them do the paperclip ATX connector trick but with no colors that's too risky

[next kestrel]

oh

[muted patio]

Are you SURE you got the right holes?

[fleet pagoda]

Wym got the holes right

[muted patio]

For the paper clip

[fleet pagoda]

Im pretty sure

Idk how i wouldnt of

[muted patio]

is the clip on the left or right side of the power connector as it sits now?

The big main one

[fleet pagoda]

Uh idk wym i put both ends of the paper clip in the 2 two holes on the pwr thing

[muted patio]

The big power connector on your motherboard

There's a clip you press with your finger to remove it

Is it on the left or right side looking down at it?

[fleet pagoda]

Roght

Right

[muted patio]

Ok, if it's on the right, paperclip goes on the right hand row

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

[muted patio]

3rd and 4th holes up from the Bottom

[fleet pagoda]

I did 3rd and 4th at the top

[muted patio]

Not right

If the clip is on the right, it's from the bottom

[fleet pagoda]

Ok so only the psu fan spins

Nothing else happens

[muted patio]

At this point, I'm suspecting a bad power supply

This is the second motherboard

[hollow grail]

is it too late to return everything and get a prebuilt

[muted patio]

Odds of two bad boards are very slim

unless you have a volt meter to test things with?

Just because fan spins doesn't mean power is coming out

[fleet pagoda]

I have another psu but its like 500w

[muted patio]

Do it

It's fine, just testing

[fleet pagoda]

Lemme grab it

[muted patio]

🙂

Don't even need to put it in the case, just nearby so the big connector can reach

[fleet pagoda]

Its in my old pc

[muted patio]

And pls no paperclip

Use the power button

XD

Ok, it'll take you a bit

No problem

[fleet pagoda]

Everything is still connected do i just disconnected move the 24 pin

[analog pulsar]

What cpu can run VR like what’s the lowest cpu that can

[muted patio]

No, need to plug in CPU power also

It's gonna be a remove and hook up I'm afraid

[thorny tusk]

What a good mother board for 5800x

[muted patio]

Something with BIOS flashback since most motherboards don't ship with the right BIOS for those yet

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119348?Description=ASUS B550&cm_re=ASUS_B550-_-13-119-348-_-Product

[fleet pagoda]

Ok wait so do i unplug evwrything from the old pc

Or just move the 24 pin

[muted patio]

Yes, need to hook up CPU power and ATX power

The 8 pin and the 24 pin

Unless it can reach lol

BRB, feed cats

K

Remove power supply from old PC best unless everything reaches

[fleet pagoda]

Its so hard to get the cpu pine in

Pins

[muted patio]

Ohhh

It's either upside down

OR

you have the PCI-E cable

Dont force it

[fleet pagoda]

1 went in

I didnt force

The left one wont go in

[muted patio]

You have two 4 pins?

[fleet pagoda]

Yea

[muted patio]

Switch them

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

I switched them but still the left one wont go in

[muted patio]

If switching them doesn't work, flip them upside down

Should be hooks to the top

[fleet pagoda]

There is

[muted patio]

Are both 4 pins labeled CPU?

[fleet pagoda]

There werent any labeled cpu its labeled p2

[muted patio]

What power supply please?

[fleet pagoda]

Antec 500w

[north cloak]

Any recommendations on good mobos for a ryzen 3700

under 200&

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus/p/N82E16813119348?Description=ASUS B550&cm_re=ASUS_B550-_-13-119-348-_-Product

Is it gray or black?

Are all the cables going to the 4 pins yellow and black?

Or is there an orange and red wire in one of the 4 pins?

[fleet pagoda]

Green

Yellow and black wires

[muted patio]

Ok, those are the right ones

I mean, leave em out if they don't plug in right I guess

[fleet pagoda]

Omg there i

[muted patio]

lol

k

[fleet pagoda]

And the 24 pin is in

[muted patio]

Now, hook up power switch and push button if big connector is in too

cross fingers

[fleet pagoda]

Nope nothing

[muted patio]

At this point we down to 2 things

Take motherboard out of case

Pic of standoffs pls

Test motherboard on the motherboard box

out of the case

[fleet pagoda]

Ok and i never plugged the reset sw and hd led back in from when u told me to take em out

I jus realized

[muted patio]

Don't need em

Um

B550 board

What CPU?

[fleet pagoda]

3700x

[muted patio]

K whew

K, take board out and test on a box

so it's not touching the case

and pic of standoffs for patter

[fleet pagoda]

So k lemme unccrew

[muted patio]

Yup yup

[muted patio]

If it still doesn't work after this, take the CPU out and hit the button. We should at LEAST get a CPU Error LED lol

[fleet pagoda]

So i remove the cpu now?

[fading kiln]

yooo im running into a small issue

[muted patio]

Hang on, looking at something

Dom

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[fading kiln]

the rad fans for my AIO are being blocked by my cpu header so i'm having to mount the rad diagonally or else it won't fit

[muted patio]

Dom, part I circled in blue

Is that UP or DOWN

[fading kiln]

I dont want to get slim fans, would it be fine if I just mod the fan a little and cut the corner

[muted patio]

Cut the tirangle part of fan?

It's fine, it's just for mounting it

[fading kiln]

yeah

[fleet pagoda]

Wym up or down

Its pushed down

[fading kiln]

alright i'll probably get to it

[muted patio]

Ok, down into the case

[fading kiln]

thx

[muted patio]

YW

[fleet pagoda]

Ye

[muted patio]

Test mobo on box with cpu

[fleet pagoda]

Ok so take cpu out?

[muted patio]

No

Leave in for now

[fleet pagoda]

Then what do i do

[muted patio]

Connect to power and turn on

[fleet pagoda]

W the power sw?

[muted patio]

if it'll reach

If not, touch something metal to the two power switch pins on the MB

[fleet pagoda]

Ok so what do i connect to the mobo

[muted patio]

CPU power and 24 pin ATX power

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[muted patio]

Either supply at this point

[fleet pagoda]

Ok there in

Now what

[muted patio]

power switch

Or

use something to touch the two pins where the switch goes

FP header, top row, far right and the next pin to the left

[fleet pagoda]

A screw driver?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NJ9nL

dont mean to interrupt but anybody got any recommendations for 4x16 3600mhz ram? i dont have any theme so i dont really care how the ram looks

[muted patio]

Sure, screwdriver would work

4x16GB sticks?

[little osprey]

yes

[fleet pagoda]

Whats supposed to happen

[boreal quiver]

anybody got a good idea for a pc 800-900 good for gaming

[muted patio]

This is the most affordable of the 4x16Gb kits

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232916?Description=3600 CL 16 ram&cm_re=3600_CL 16 ram-_-20-232-916-_-Product

With good speed and timings

2x32 significantly cheaper

[fleet pagoda]

Whats supposed to happen w the screwdriver

[little osprey]

thanks

[muted patio]

CPU fan spin hopefully

YW

[fleet pagoda]

Nothing happens

[muted patio]

-_-

last test

is your ram still in?

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

[muted patio]

Take it out, pins again

Then if that doesn't work, CPU out, pins again

[fleet pagoda]

Didnt work and ok

[muted patio]

SHould get a light on the bottom of the MB

Nex to the fan headers

[fleet pagoda]

What should be plugged in now just the 24 pin and cpu pins

[muted patio]

Yep

[fleet pagoda]

K

Yeah nothing happend

[muted patio]

Well my friend, buy a lotto ticket

[fleet pagoda]

😦

[muted patio]

and a new motherboard.

😦

I have exhausted all my tricks

[fleet pagoda]

I wonder can we go 3 for 3

[muted patio]

This time though

don't put it in the case right away

Connect the CPU and ATX power and hit the pins

RIght after you get it

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[muted patio]

To make sure it works

Sorry man

I really thought it had to be something else

You were doing the power pins not the reset pins right?

[fleet pagoda]

Yes

[boreal quiver]

Is it his psu?

[muted patio]

Yeah, even with no CPU the CPU light should light up

Not his PSU

tested two of them

[boreal quiver]

so its the board

rip

[muted patio]

Ye

:/

[boreal quiver]

brand new>

?

[muted patio]

2nd one

I actually assemble and test mine outside the case before I install

CPU and ram and power

[boreal quiver]

I just built it and our psu didnt turn on

[muted patio]

Switch on on the back of it?

[fleet pagoda]

Im gonna go to bestbuy tmr and tru and get one

[muted patio]

Different mobo?

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

No more asrock

[muted patio]

oof

[fleet pagoda]

This is sad mane

[muted patio]

Indeed

[fleet pagoda]

Going to bb tmr and getting a new mobo

And never getting asrock brand again

[muted patio]

Cant blame you

Im an Asus guy myself

[fleet pagoda]

Idek if bb will have amd mobos

Last time they only had intel

[robust birch]

Boyos

What symptom does it shows when ram isn't compatible with other ram sticks?

[muted patio]

No post

[robust birch]

Or how do I fix it

Hmmm

Does this count?

[muted patio]

Clear cmos can help

[boreal quiver]

you cant fix incompatibility

[boreal quiver]

if its on a hardware level

[muted patio]

Mmmmm

Clear cmos

[robust birch]

Ait

[muted patio]

Bios freaked because new ram

[robust birch]

I can run bios and post without docp

[muted patio]

Ye

Oh docp wont work

Becuasw sricks dont match

[robust birch]

Fuc

Nah then it isn't worth it cuz I was running 3200mhz

Better than 32gb at 1866

[muted patio]

With amd? Heck yeah

[robust birch]

Really?

[muted patio]

3600 even better

No 3200 better

Not 1866 lol

[robust birch]

Oh that's what I said

1866 is like running a ddr2 almost

[fleet pagoda]

I demand a refund replacement with over night shipping

[robust birch]

Well at least I have lower cas

16 18 18 36 from 16 18 18 38

[muted patio]

Cas is 16

The 36 vs 38 doesnt matter much

[robust birch]

Welp it better do cuz I have no refund😋

[muted patio]

I mean if thats the only difference

Manually set ram to slowest timings

[fleet pagoda]

What are the chances i messed up the mobo

[muted patio]

Should work

[fleet pagoda]

I was grounded and tried to he extremely carful

[muted patio]

Low

[fleet pagoda]

Am so sad

I just wanna play games :c

[robust birch]

Nah just lower 1 by 1

[fleet pagoda]

😦

[robust birch]

Yo @muted patio

I was expecting this to be a bit more straightforward

[muted patio]

Indeed

[muted patio]

Earing dinner lol

[robust birch]

Why 3 18?

[muted patio]

Dont worry about those. Fisrt number is 16 run with it

[robust birch]

I was trying to oc it

1 by 1 see how it reacts

[fleet pagoda]

Literally no mobos instock at bb near me that are under 200

[little osprey]

amazon

[fleet pagoda]

Should i get the asus strix b450-f axt

Will that work w my 3700x

@muted patio

Also a msi x470 which is alot cheaper

[robust birch]

Eh was too complicated I just bumped up speed by 66hz

[robust birch]

I'd say get a better mobo to avoid incompatibility or flashing bios

[fleet pagoda]

Max i wanna spend is what that one costs

[robust birch]

Dang

I read you need to update bios

[fleet pagoda]

Idk how to do that so ill get the other one

[robust birch]

You have to flash it and download the update on another pc to a usb stick

But wait @fleet pagoda

Check the official page of Asus

Some motherboards do have compatibility

[raw crane]

Hold up

For the wires that plug into the PSU, do we buy them separately?

[robust birch]

@fleet pagoda

Is it this one?

[raw crane]

That’s a good motherboard

I like the 550

[fleet pagoda]

Ye

[robust birch]

Gimme a sec

[muted patio]

B450 dont have to ypdate for 3700

[robust birch]

Some do

[muted patio]

Not today. Back when they were new they did. Check the cpu compatibility list and bios release date

[robust birch]

Yup

No compatibility only 1st and 2nd gen

[muted patio]

Ryzen 3700 supported since bios 2301. Theyre on 4007 now -_-

Bios released may of 2019

Current boards will support

[desert gulch]

Yup

[muted patio]

Besides even with no cpu we should have had the cpu error led light up. It didnt.

[next kestrel]

did u determine that it was a faulty mobo?

[drifting garnet]

is their some adapter that I can use to connect 3 pin fans to a 4 pin header on a motherboard? this is what the connector on the fan looks like.

[next kestrel]

u dont need an adaptor, just plug it directly in

[drifting garnet]

wait rlly?!?!

[next kestrel]

right there

[drifting garnet]

how did i not figure this out sooner lol. thx a lot.

[jagged ember]

Seriously yeag

Just plug it in

But line up the plastic bit

[next kestrel]

lol yea its fine if u figured it out

[drifting garnet]

ok i will do it tomorrow then.

[jagged ember]

Sure

[little osprey]

How long will 9600k be viable for gaming

[next kestrel]

as long as you want

the i7 920 is still "viable" for gaming

[little osprey]

let me see on my crystal ball and...

it blue screened

anyway there is not really a way to see how a cpu is viable for X years
and meep has a point aswell

[little osprey]

Not really

I mean triple A title

[muted patio]

Minesweeper doesn't count

[fleet pagoda]

Wait so the asus strix b450-f will work w 3700x without bios update?

[muted patio]

Yes

[fleet pagoda]

Alr ima order one

[raw crane]

Is hardwiring your pc going to affect the rest of the households internet (like make things slower for them)

[muted patio]

Only if you use up all the bandwidth

[raw crane]

Can you explain a little

[muted patio]

If you're doing a ton of downloading, you'll be using all the "internet" so to speak

Doesn't matter if it's wifi or wired, the end speed all depends on what you pay for from your ISP

Ethernet doesn't give you "faster internet"

[raw crane]

Thank ylu

[muted patio]

YW

[raw crane]

You da best homie

[potent prairie]

Ey! I got my money back on this!

I bought it for $940 from Amazon about six months ago

[muted patio]

O.o

[potent prairie]

Just sold it for $1100

Now I can buy the 3080ti when it launches

😁

In under three hours too

[viral ore]

ahh, remember when everybody was panic selling their cards only a few months ago?

what a joke

[potent prairie]

Happy I waited. Now I gotta sell my waterblock

[potent prairie]

Looks to be an international buyer too

Too bad I can't do the same with my i9

[spiral basin]

Wait have u ordered yet? B450-F is known to have some pretty low quality VRMs...

[sharp tundra]

Haha, like what you did there ^^

[outer heart]

one fan in the back as exhaust would be ok for 2 days right?

waiting for splitters to hook up 4 more fans

[muted patio]

VRM's are fine unless you're slapping in a 3900x and overclocking

[potent prairie]

Check your temps, if they are low enough you're fine

[outer heart]

would leaving the front panel off help?

[muted patio]

Only ONE fan in the case?

[potent prairie]

Maybe, depending on the front panel

[muted patio]

Period?

If so, leave the side panel off

[outer heart]

back one is plugged in for now

top and front will be split in 2 days

[fleet pagoda]

Idek what vrms r

[muted patio]

I'd just leave the side panel off if you can

[fleet pagoda]

And im not overclocking i saw that mentioned

[muted patio]

Nothing to worry about dom, you're not gonna overclock

[outer heart]

yeah that would be fine

thank you

[fleet pagoda]

Alr ty

[spiral basin]

I mean sure, but there are better motherboards to get for the same price or lower. Maybe at least the Tomahawk instead?

[sharp tundra]

My new pc I'm building. 😎
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bXVvsX

[spiral basin]

Or the B450-A Pro Max?

[muted patio]

$420 motherboard?

for a 3700x

y

[sharp tundra]

It's not $420

[muted patio]

XD

[sharp tundra]

It's desperate thrid party sellers

It's like $200

[muted patio]

Ye

XD

[glacial umbra]

waiting for cpu stock sucks man

[spiral basin]

$180, and the VRMs ain’t the best but ig it’ll do with no OC, or maybe some PBO idk

[muted patio]

Gonna be honest here, that 3700x probably won't do 1900 FCLK for that ram but good luck!!

[glacial umbra]

I'm really hoping the 3100 comes back into stock soon

I got everything I need except the cpu

[spiral basin]

Why the 3100?

Oh wait nvmd u probably already have the motherboard.

[glacial umbra]

it's the best budget option that I can get

yeah I do

[spiral basin]

How about the 10100?

It’s too late ig, but the 10100 beats the 3100 in gaming, if that’s what the build is for

[sharp tundra]

If he already has an am4 mobo, no need to switch cpu

[spiral basin]

I know I know. It’s just Intel’s offerings are good too, for anyone wondering

[sharp tundra]

🤮

Intel = eww

[spiral basin]

10400F beats ur 3600 for instance

In gaming and arguably value

[sharp tundra]

Cpus hardly matter anymore for gaming,ost of the processing of games comes from the gpu.

[muted patio]

That is not even remotely true

[spiral basin]

For 1080p, that is completely wrong

Actually that’s just wrong entirely

[sharp tundra]

Wdym, literally every pc tech youtuber says that.

[muted patio]

Not even close

[sharp tundra]

Modern games are processed more on the gpu than it is the cpu.

[spiral basin]

Don’t believe everything you hear

[muted patio]

no

No no no

[spiral basin]

This guy

[muted patio]

1080p is CPU bound

[spiral basin]

*very

[sharp tundra]

So you're saying, bitwit, Linus, and jayz are all wrong?

[muted patio]

They don't say that LOL. I watch Linus and Jay and they haven't said that once

[sharp tundra]

Yes they have lol

[spiral basin]

No they haven’t

[muted patio]

-_-

You have misunderstood what they have said

Pls tell

[spiral basin]

Well, maybe BitWit lmfao

[muted patio]

Why a 3070 does better with a 3900x than a 7700k if it's not CPU dependent

bitWit is an idiot

[sharp tundra]

Bitwit literally builds his budgets with ~50% towards gpu, why? Cause maybe it's more necessary for games than a high end cpu

[spiral basin]

But the CPU matters just as much as the GPU, especially at 1080p

[muted patio]

Cuz he's silly

No idea how to balance a system

[spiral basin]

Don’t quote BitWit

He’s entertaining sure, but isn’t reliable in the slightest

[muted patio]

Am I a jerk for flagging all the scalping GPU's on FB Marketplace as scams? XD

[spiral basin]

No. Ur a good man 😎

[sharp tundra]

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna believe the guys who have made a career in this field instead of you.

And no, I do that too

[glacial umbra]

ah I'm aiming for a decent editing and gaming build

[spiral basin]

Please try not to give advice then

[glacial umbra]

not heavy video editing though

[muted patio]

Please go listen to Jay and Linus again

Pay attention to what CPU's they're using

And what they actually talk about

[sharp tundra]

For nearly all of their gaming pc builds I have seen, at least Linus, he is almost always using a 3600x maybe a bit more than that

[muted patio]

So...

That doesn't mean that 1080p isn't CPU bound

[sharp tundra]

I didn't say that

[muted patio]

Yes you did

[spiral basin]

Build guides? Those are meant to help u build, doesn’t mean you should get exactly what parts they got

[muted patio]

You said "most of the processing for the game comes from the GPU"

[sharp tundra]

I just said that most games depend more on the gpu for processing than cpus

Exactly

[muted patio]

Which is wrong

CPU FEEDS GPU

[sharp tundra]

It is not

[muted patio]

XD

[spiral basin]

The two complement each other

[muted patio]

I've probably been doing this for longer than you've been alive -_-

[sharp tundra]

Okay, then tell me why my friend has a 2700x and an rx5600xt

The cpu should be bottlenecking

[tender peak]

Much like horsepower and torque do for an engine.

[muted patio]

Butm in the words of Jay, I digress.

[spiral basin]

Because he wanted to?

[sharp tundra]

But it isnt

[muted patio]

No

CPU won't bottleneck that

That's not how it works

[spiral basin]

Lmao “bottleneck”

Why do I keep seeing that word thrown around

[muted patio]

But, I'ma go flag some more ads

[spiral basin]

@sharp tundra just do us both a favor and refrain from giving advice, please

[sharp tundra]

Dude I was giving advice here well before you were, lol

[tender peak]

Because people dont understand cores, threads and l2 l3 cache and go by the mhz?

[spiral basin]

I feel bad for the people who listened to you then. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about

And yes, clock speeds aren’t everything

[sharp tundra]

Nearly Every build I've made for people, have been approved by other techies, like mr111, naed, norbillgen

[spiral basin]

You obviously have a lot of bias and I would definitely not trust you to give good advice

[sharp tundra]

Whatever dude

[spiral basin]

I mean one techie obviously disapproves of you, so I don’t trust that claim

[sharp tundra]

You've probably been here for 4 days, I've been here for 4 months

[spiral basin]

And yet I still know more than you

[sharp tundra]

Sure thing

[spiral basin]

Like how the 10400F > 3600 in gaming, but since you have an AMD bias, you don’t believe it

[sharp tundra]

I didn't say it wasn't, I am AMD bias because AMD is better multithreading capabilities versus nearly every intel chip, yeah intel has higher frequencies, but thats not always everything. The 3600x is one of the best budget gaming cpus on the market right now and it has multiple sources claiming it.

Intel is losing a game they created, not my fault you can't except that

[spiral basin]

Gaming is usually more core intensive, and you do know that the 3600X is virtually the same as a 3600, unless you count the 1-2% increase in performance worth the premium. And the 10400F is $155, how much does the 3600X cost again?

[little osprey]

10400(F)>3600(x)

[little osprey]

Tbh I never see you chat

[spiral basin]

The 3600/X/XT may have an edge in productivity workloads, but for $155, the 10400F takes the cake for gaming and value, and isn’t too far behind in productivity as well

Ah yes, reinforcements

[sharp tundra]

@little osprey cause I don't spend my life on discord anymore

[spiral basin]

Ok Mr. “I’ve been here for 4 months so I’m automatically smarter than you”

[tender peak]

Point is no matter what camp you choose or are behind, planned obsolescence screws everyone. Do your research, pick your price point, enjoy. It's likely better than what you had prior.

[sharp tundra]

I agree sinthala, it's just we got people like Europe here who don't understand that we are living in 2020, and not 2010, where yes, games were more cpu intensive, because graphic quality was poorer than now. But seems like he's trying to tell me that you can play battlefield 5 on an intel with integrated graphics at 4k60 is a possibility

Since games aren't more gpu intensive

Anyways, have a good night yall.

Lastly though,

What is the CPU?

The central processing unit (CPU), also referred to as the “processor,” carries out and controls the computer program’s instructions by performing input/output (I/O) operations, basic arithmetic, and logic. An essential part of any computer, the CPU receives, directs, and processes the computer’s data.

What is the GPU?

The graphics processing unit (GPU), also called graphics card or video card, is a specialized electronic circuit that accelerates the creation and rendering of images, video, and animations. It performs fast math calculations while freeing the CPU to perform other tasks.

Tell me which one sounds like a modern game would use more of. (HINT: There's only one answer)

[next kestrel]

both lol

a gpu needs a cpu that'll keep up

pretty ironic since you have a pretty good cpu for a decent GPU

[viral ore]

lmao

[little osprey]

Uses the ram!

Obviously

[sharp tundra]

Gpu was a trade I made for something lesser than my last, but I got something else in return.

[next kestrel]

yea well i agree that in most gaming cases, GPU is more expensive than cpu

[sharp tundra]

And I can game at 4k60 on medium-high settings perfectly fine

[next kestrel]

but both are important for getting FPS

really? my old 1660 super was struggling at high settings overwatch at 1080p 144hz

[sharp tundra]

Higher frequencies are important for getting higher fps, thats why intel was considered the better choice for gaming for a long time because of that advantage they had.

[viral ore]

that sounds like a cpu issue

running overwatch at 1080p is not hard

[sharp tundra]

But having better multithreading capabilities imo is worth sacrificing that .2-.3 ghz difference in frequency

[next kestrel]

the 11700k is rumored to have lower frequency

[sharp tundra]

Especially when your gpu can pick up the extra slack

[next kestrel]

yet higher single-core perfs

[sharp tundra]

Apparently there was 500000 rtx 3000 cards that were lost, and found today

[muted patio]

Fake news

[sharp tundra]

Seems like it, 500000 is a A LOT of cards

[muted patio]

kad found the original unedited photo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/500101029157797899/793347221071855660/Artigo-26-08.jpeg

[raw crane]

I just saw this build with 4 gpu’s stacked... how the heck is it getting air ventilation

[sharp tundra]

Water cooling?

[raw crane]

Seemed like nothing was on it

[sharp tundra]

Send it

[raw crane]

Bet

Where is it breathing

[muted sluice]

No airflow for those gpu s

[desert gulch]

Could be for looks

[raw crane]

That is going to over heat isn’t it

[desert gulch]

Like just a meme

They just stuck them in there for a pic

Then took a couple ou

They aren't even linked

So it's just a meme

[raw crane]

Linked Wdym?

[sharp tundra]

That is a fat cringe

[muted sluice]

Sli

[desert gulch]

There should be a bridge across them

[viral ore]

they dont have to be bridged together

[desert gulch]

They don't?

[raw crane]

Like connected all 4 to each other

[viral ore]

of course not

[desert gulch]

For them to work together don't they tho?

Like actually effectively

[viral ore]

work together for what?

[desert gulch]

Like gaming and editing

[raw crane]

What’s the point of 4 gpu’s ??

[muted sluice]

Not many games support sli

[desert gulch]

Nothing

Big flex

[raw crane]

It doesn’t make the graphics better does it?

[muted sluice]

Mining and stuff

[raw crane]

Mining lol

[desert gulch]

If game is optimised super well

[sharp tundra]

First off, if you're using 2 gpus for games, you are the problem with the pc world

[viral ore]

the only software that utilizes sli are like, 40 games, nothing else uses it

[desert gulch]

It could

Yeah

[raw crane]

LOL

Linus

[viral ore]

if you have 4 gpus, you arent gaming, and you most likely dont need sli

[desert gulch]

Yes

For the flex

[viral ore]

no

[desert gulch]

And the insta

[viral ore]

for rendering

and literally anything else that gpus do

[desert gulch]

Cpu bottleneck anyone?

Lol

[raw crane]

How do you get the techie role

[desert gulch]

You earn it

[raw crane]

I know how to put a cpu into its socket

[desert gulch]

A techie suggests you get it

[raw crane]

I think that’s enough

[desert gulch]

No

Lol

[raw crane]

Bro... the build is legit it isn’t for “fun”

Like they actually built it and uses it

I wish I was joking

[viral ore]

you bribe a mod for it

[raw crane]

@subtle halo I bend the CPU pins if that proves to you that I’m a techie

I’m pretty sure I know my stuff 💪🏼😎

[hollow grail]

true

[hoary cloak]

I upgraded from a 1050ti to 1660 xc black since I got a good price, is this a good upgrade?

[hollow grail]

its alright yeah

[hoary cloak]

Ok

[desert gulch]

Well what price was it?

[subtle halo]

no

[tropic locust]

10700 (none K)
Z490 MSI Gaming Plus
32GB 3200
(£570/$660)

OR

3700x
B550 TOMAHAWK
32GB 3200
(£545/$655)

Paired with a 3070 (mainly used for gaming 1440P)

[near garden]

You guys think the msi b550 gaming plus good?

[steel tartan]

A few more hours till my mother board arrives

[lyric sinew]

i have finally done it

i got a mouse pad

[jagged ember]

From lttstore.com?

[keen zealot]

Anyone opinion on the EVGA supernova 750w G+ vs the Corsair RM750? I ordered the EVGA on Amazon which won’t ship until mid Jan, but when I was at Bestbuy yesterday they had a ton of RM750s in stock. Debating whether to cancel my order and just pick up the Corsair

[muted patio]

RM750 is a better unit.

[keen zealot]

Thanks dude, you’ve been a big help

[little osprey]

What is a nice, good looking, affordable case that has a PSU display cutout

[tribal mica]

Who just ghost pinged me in build-pics haha

[viscid violet]

@tribal mica I didn't expect that to happen. I really like your setup.

[tribal mica]

Ah it's okay, thank you :)

[violet crown]

Samsung C27HG70 27" HDR QLED 144Hz 1ms Curved Gaming Monitor

SAMSUNG 32-Inch Odyssey G5 Gaming Monitor with 1000R Curved

Samsung U28E590D 28-Inch 4k UHD LED-Lit Monitor

Top 3 picks.... what would work best/be easiest on eyes for long periods of time (coding, gaming and video editing)

im leaning more twords the G5 or c27

[manic ingot]

Hey fellas I'm looking for a good lga 1151 motherboard for my i7 9700k and msi seahawk x 2080 with room for at least 64 gigs of ram size isn't really a concern however budget friendly would be nice its going in a thermaltake lvl 20 ht

I'm primarily MSI parts and would love to stick to em but willing to work with whats available

Any thoughts?

[coarse coral]

@manic ingot any z390 board will be fine, they pretty much all fine unless you're looking for overclocking.

[manic ingot]

Well im not looking at extreme overclocking i would like to do a little light overclocking

[coarse coral]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t8qhP6/msi-mpg-z390-gaming-edge-ac-atx-lga1151-motherboard-mpg-z390-gaming-edge-ac

[deft geyser]

What would you recommend parts wise for someone whose never built a rig before?

[little osprey]

would depend on your budget

im going to make my first build and im doing like a 3k build

[rich void]

Depends what you want to do with it as well

[severe axle]

@dreamy summit why do you have your gpu in the bottom slot?

[dreamy summit]

@severe axle A couple of reasons, firstly it hides a lot of the cables that connect at the bottom on my motherboard and allows for a shorter cleaner run for the GPU Power connectors. My case also has so much airflow that having a half inch to 3/4 of an inch of clearance from the Bottom of the GPU and the case has not had any big impact on performance. Secondly, from my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) there isn’t any difference with the PCI-e Lanes between the slots on my Motherboard so the single card in my system should be able to utilize all the x16 lanes that the motherboard offers and even if the PCI-E socket does not support PCI-e 4.0, there are no games that support or benefit from PCI-e 4.0 yet so I am not losing anything. So it basically comes down to aesthetics.

[severe axle]

there is not that much airflow there, those darkflash fans don't have much cfm and the case isn't front mesh

additionally, the top slot goes directly to cpu

wait are those darkflash fans or not?

can't tell

[dreamy summit]

@severe axle ultimately what I want to do is Vertically mount my GPU. But the MSI card is much bigger than the FE card that I wanted and cannot Fit with the Air Cooler I have in the system. I’ll be upgrading my cooler in a few months and I’ll adjust the GPU then! Thanks for the info.

[severe axle]

I think it should be fine with only gpu connected

[dreamy summit]

The case does have a removable panel in the front and top though for more airflow, the fans in my case are garbage though. At least the RGB ones are. I’ll be upgrading later but for now I have them running full throttle all the time.

[severe axle]

hmm, actually...

I'm checking the manual for that mobo and it is saying that the bottom slot is x4

might be a loss in frames?

[balmy elk]

Hey first time here, was wondering if anyone has had problems with random fps drops and stuttering when using the CLX prebuilt pc and if so any solutions to fix the drops?

[night iron]

I have never seen a orange and grey p600s @dreamy summit

[dreamy summit]

@night iron I took the plastic pieces apart and did a custom paint job. Took a long time cause I wanted to make sure I got it right but I love how it turned out!

@night iron

[night iron]

Excellent work on the case.

[blazing aurora]

What's a good price to pay for a used 2060 super?

[stoic island]

300$ if it's in very good condition, prob closer to 250$ in general

[raw crane]

Oouuu I like that case

The orange is great

[rich helm]

@blazing aurora I wish 2060 supers were that low. Now a days they rarely go below 380

Hard to find used 2060 for lower than 300

[coarse coral]

its tuesday

what we doing today

[placid notch]

Just noticed that the GPU looks kind of crooked inside the case is that something I should be worried about?

It feels tight when trying to wiggle it but looks kind of weird

[zinc marsh]

You’re likely going to get some gpu sag on heavier gpus such as that one, as long as you have it in the port good and it screwed into the slot you should be ok

[placid notch]

Yep it’s screwed and sits tight thanks!

[zinc marsh]

Yeah you’re good

[steel tartan]

How do I remove mother board standoffs

[little osprey]

you can always buy a gpu brace to stop it from sagging if it concerns you but sag is normal

[hasty bobcat]

^

[steel tartan]

Help☹️

[next kestrel]

one of these things

[little osprey]

your case should come with one

[next kestrel]

or a plier if that works

[steel tartan]

Ok thanks

But what do I do with it like screw it in

[little osprey]

it goes over the standoff and you can use a screwdriver to take it out

[steel tartan]

Is that the one?

[little osprey]

no

[steel tartan]

Oh

[little osprey]

Should look something like this

[steel tartan]

Yea I don’t have that now what

[rare goblet]

You can order a tool for it. Probably easier to get the screwdriver handled one. Thats what i use. Idk

[fallen escarp]

i cant hear from my speakers, and they arent turning on either. downloading realtek drivers didnt help

can someone guide me on what im supposed to do?

[rare goblet]

Or use a small adjustable wrench to loosen maybe?

[grim fern]

is a 450w PSU for an RTX 2060 a bad idea?

[small osprey]

Might wanna get bit higher wattage for that

Plus higher wattage future proofs

Maybe get a 650 w one

[tough kettle]

Depends on the quality

[outer heart]

i used an adjustable wrench to move mine

not sure what shape yours are though

[steel tartan]

@outer heart

[outer heart]

do you have one of these?

pliers might work too

[steel tartan]

Yea I can’t find it

[outer heart]

anything that can grip it would work

[steel tartan]

I got it

Time to finish this pc

[daring berry]

Hey guys. Im building my first RIG.
I almost got all of my components as u can see.

For RAM, please witch one should I choose. DRAM OR SDRAM?

[odd bloom]

Hey guys, I'm planning on buying a Lian li o11 Dynamic XL case but I'm having difficulty selecting an appropriate motherboard for it. I keep getting an error on pc part picker which states that the front port usb's won't work. Any recommendations on a motherboard that will solve that issue? Thanks

[viral ore]

the case uses a new type of front panel usb header

that motherboard doesnt have the header

its not that big of a deal, you can either find an adapter on ebay, or just pick a different motherboard

[odd bloom]

Is the x570 Msi tomahawk a good motherboard? That's the only mobo so far that's hasn't given an error on the page for that case

[daring berry]

Don't know but I can try the ROG B550 A Gaming

[viral ore]

actually, if you can live without usb c at the front, then it doesnt matter, any motherboard will do

the two usb a at the front use a standard 20-1 header, which every modern motherboard has

[wind venture]

hello to make it short, im building my first pc for gaming. should i go intel or amd for parts?

[little osprey]

what's your budget?

[daring berry]

Hey guys. Im building my first RIG.
I almost got all of my components

For RAM, please witch one should I choose. DRAM OR SDRAM?

[little osprey]

DRAM of course

https://www.arrow.com/en/research-and-events/articles/difference-between-dram-sdram-and-ddr-memory-chips

[wind venture]

3000-3500

[little osprey]

Ah ok go for AMD

what do you want to play

[little osprey]

there is only one type of ram for desktop and that is the stardand ddr

there is also ddr with ECC

DRAM is built into RAM

[wind venture]

cs, pubg, cod, tomb rider, assassins creed, cyberpunk and any other new game that comes out basically lol

[little osprey]

The 5900x would be a great fit for you

[stoic island]

@daring berry dram is desktop, sdram is laptop

280 pin dimm is desktop, 260 pin sodimm is laptop

[wind venture]

how about motherboard and cpu?

[daring berry]

Okay. I'm asking because I purchased the Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 2×8Gb 3600 DRAM

But I just saw a discount price for the Same Item but it's mentioned SDRAM

[daring berry]

Ah okay. That's is clear now

[little osprey]

cpu would be 5900x motherboard would be a x570 unify because it's in my opinion the best board for the money for this price

[wind venture]

sorry typo i meant gpu

and thanks so far

[little osprey]

For gpu i would wait for the rtx 3080 ti

in February

You're welcome

[wind venture]

got it thanks for the info man appreciate it

[stoic island]

hmm sdram might stand for something else than I thought

but sodimm is laptop, dimm is desktop

[little osprey]

No problem bro

[stoic island]

Thought it was soldered dram lel

[viral ore]

synchronous dram

although i think the d actually stands for something else, i cant remember

nope nvm, its just synchronous dram lol

[little osprey]

in the article it was written that sdram is a bit slower than dram

[daring berry]

The first one is what I ordered
The second one is the discount I found.

Just wanna know if my choice is the best.

PS: it's my first time building my own RIG

[little osprey]

That's my first build I'm doing, thoughts?

[stoic island]

use pcpartpicker

[little osprey]

I did but that's where I made my final build I'll get the newegg link

[stoic island]

hm

[little osprey]

https://newegg.io/ecace35

[stoic island]

Ick, screw corsair

@daring berry both are sdram it looks like

They're 1 letter apart part number wise

[daring berry]

The first one is DRAM
The second one mentioned SDRAM

[stoic island]

and corsair is just outright awful with specs

First

second

[little osprey]

Eh, I'm gonna stick with the corsair ram

[blazing aurora]

is this budget build good?

[daring berry]

You're godam right. It's like the same. I really don't know what to think.

[stoic island]

Ventus 2060 super is a very sad card

It's decent

[versed laurel]

Anyone know good parts for a 20 usd pc

[little osprey]

Lul what

[versed laurel]

$20 pc build

Thats all I got in my pocket

[stoic island]

ras pi MAYBE

used ras pi

[versed laurel]

Okay thanks.

I can't afford that either.

[stoic island]

used

[versed laurel]

Okay

[little osprey]

you could go to the dumpster and look for a pc there

go to the nearest house with a shotgun

[charred bluff]

Is there any PNY 3070 GPU blocks?

[north cloak]

Yeah making one for my brother too

Thanks! Yeah I’ll need the luck this is my first pc build 😭

I have every part but the gpu and case

Still looking for the case

And waiting for the 3060

I need a nice mid tower case

[little osprey]

Raspberry Pi zero

[north cloak]

Yeah I saw the meshify it’s pretty nice

What exaclty would you need the usb c port for

Ah ok

Does it come with included fans

[little osprey]

Or car

[north cloak]

Wow nice

I like the case just maybe not the front panel....probably because it’s “mesh”

Which is much better for airflow though

Oh ok

[little osprey]

Did you get white or black

[north cloak]

Can you see rgb fans through the front panel

[severe axle]

@north cloak what do you think about the 4000d airflow?

it has usb c

[north cloak]

yeah I saw that case too it’s pretty nice...

I’m just very picky with cases and don’t like the front panel on the 400d haha

Yeah I might go with the meshify

I like both

[severe axle]

hmm, p360a/p400a/p500a?

I think only the p360a is

[north cloak]

Are they under 80 dollars

ok I’ll look at it

[severe axle]

p400a is 3x120mm rgb intake fans

p500a has 3x140mm rgb intake

[north cloak]

oooh I like the p360a

[severe axle]

then the p360a is 2x120mm rgb intake

[little osprey]

The p400a is $90 that's what I'm getting

[north cloak]

Exaclty what I’m looking for on the p360a

A very sleek design

does it have good airflow

[severe axle]

yes

[little osprey]

Mesh c is decent

[severe axle]

you can also get more of that type of fan, its called sk120

[north cloak]

I think I’m gonna go with the p360a

[severe axle]

so that it matches

[little osprey]

Get Montech flyer

[severe axle]

that one doesn't have the best airflow

[north cloak]

It’s nice but really big

Is this the p400a

[severe axle]

yes

[north cloak]

Which one do you recommend

Out of the two

The p360a or the p400a

[severe axle]

higher budget, p400a

p360a still good though

[north cloak]

Ok I think I’m going to go with the p400a

I really like the look of it

It has good airflow right?

[severe axle]

front mesh though

[north cloak]

Oh really

[ripe wedge]

td500 mesh pretty good airflow

look that one up

its what I have

[north cloak]

yeah it’s not bad

[severe axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfXQQZtD_SI heres a review on it

[north cloak]

Ok thanks I’ll watch it rn

[ripe wedge]

gn also did a review of the TD500 mesh

[stoic island]

lancool ii mesh

h500 non suffix

[ripe wedge]

ooo that one is decent too

[elfin flame]

@north cloak https://youtu.be/IqoGsaYJIzU
If you wanna look at the review for meshify c

[north cloak]

Oh yeah I like the lian Li lan cool 2 mesh

Pretty nice

Do you think the lancool mesh 2 is good?

I did like the lancool 215 but the front fans are huge

200 ml

I think it’s nice

I might go with it

[little osprey]

i have the meshify c

when i tested the fans they were stronk

good airflow

[north cloak]

Yeah my pc will be on my desk

Yeah ok that’ll be fine

I’ll send a pic when everything is done to see if it’s in a good place

Yeah so I think imma go order the lancool 2 mesh rn

I can’t see if it comes with fans though

[north cloak]

Ah ok

So is this the right one

It says rgb in the title

Ok thanks I’m gonna go order it

I hope it’s not really big though

I mean it does say mid tower...

[brittle ore]

hey just got the 3090 GPU..... what's the purpose of 2 VGA pin inputs on the card, is that just the ability to do hdmi 1 and hdmi 2 or is there a performance benefit?

[north cloak]

Alr thanks

[severe axle]

@brittle ore you should plug in all 8/6 pin connectors

its not a thing about performance benefits, just that card needs a lot more power

[brittle ore]

ah I see

okay got it

thank you

[little osprey]

fractal is tiny but it has a lot of space for cable management if you take out the hard drive bay

yee i have that set up rn

[north cloak]

Damnn the lian Li is huge then

Kind of changes my mind now

I have a good amount of space

I jus don’t really want a huge case

[little osprey]

fractal would be good then

[north cloak]

I really like the Corsair 4000x but it’s pretty expensive

which one do you think

The Corsair 4000x

Or lian Li 2 mesh

By the picture you sent it’s smaller than the lian Li

17.83 x 9.06 x 18.35 inches

[deft geyser]

I've bought some abomination and I'm gonna upgrade it to be hopefully functional.
I've got an i5 3570 in it now, and it has 16gb of ddr3. I'm thinking about putting a 1650 in it for now, because that's what my budget allows.

[north cloak]

yeah idk

I like both

Jus like the look for Corsair more

Wait so wdym it gets stuck in the fans

[blazing aurora]

is the 2060 S still a good gpu in 2020 perf wise

[hollow grail]

not for rt

[little osprey]

if u can get it for like 300-340 yeah

[orchid matrix]

anyone know if the 3060TI will restock at the January 12th event?

[little osprey]

if u want a 3060 ti watch amazon or best buy

best buy restocks every 2 weeks in one large drop

[north cloak]

Oh really?

damn that sucks

Probably has a fix though

[little osprey]

Would a msi b550 gaming plus mobo go well with a 5600x? Or is there a way I can save a little bit more money on my mobo?

[orchid matrix]

do you know when the last drop was? I want to get the date of the next

[little osprey]

22nd

[grim fern]

anyone know of any good nvidia gpus at $400-500cad?

[little osprey]

3060ti?

Oop nvm

[grim fern]

ye .-.

[muted patio]

I mean, that's a good motherboard

and you'll need BIOS flashback for the 5600x

[little osprey]

any b550 can support 5600x

[muted patio]

Yes but needs BIOS update

[little osprey]

ye

[muted patio]

not all have flashback

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I’m still working on my knowledge of mobos

True

I know this one has it from the videos and reviews I have seen

MSI generally always has a bios flash if its a gaming branded one