building-and-recc-chat

[muted patio]

My OCD says no, realistically, yes

[stoic finch]

K

It’s not going in

[tiny oriole]

Send it over here then

[muted patio]

Lined up triable to triangle?

[stoic finch]

Yes

[muted patio]

Did you raise the CPU arm?

Cuz you just yanked it out without doing that

[hollow grail]

[stoic finch]

I did raise it

[hollow grail]

[muted patio]

Pin might be just bent enough to affect it then

[hollow grail]

[faint forum]

the suspense is killing me

[muted patio]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-brave-face-gif-5377249

[stoic finch]

It’s almost definitely broken so u know if micro center can fix it

[muted patio]

What is broken?

[stoic finch]

The pins

They are bent

[muted patio]

I doubt they will straighten

Too much risk

[faint forum]

getting pins to straighten is a difficult thing to do, especially if most of them are bent

[stoic finch]

How much do 2700x’s cost nowadays

[small osprey]

hey @muted patio can i have a $600 build list, as mr1111 is busy playing 16 hrs of black desert XD

[faint forum]

they are right now on newegg for 291

[verbal quarry]

its a core gm

[faint forum]

though they are sold by a separate supplier other than new egg

[muted patio]

I figured but wanted to ask anyway

[faint forum]

you could also buy used for around 240

[verbal quarry]

good lord i just read the chat

[faint forum]

yeah, its unfortunate news

[muted patio]

Mmhmm

[verbal quarry]

what was the cause exactly?

[muted patio]

I mean, fingernail file or tweezers can straighten

[faint forum]

@stoic finch what motherboard do you have?

[muted patio]

They ripped out the cpu attached to the cooler

bent some pins

[verbal quarry]

that hurts to hear

[muted patio]

I've straghtened them before

Just gotta be real careful and patient

[verbal quarry]

do we know how many are bent?

[muted patio]

used a fingernail file

No, pics weren't clear

[verbal quarry]

dang

[hollow grail]

lol

rip

[verbal quarry]

hopefully it isnt alot

[stoic finch]

I think I fixed it

Almost

[verbal quarry]

mind if i can see?

[stoic finch]

I watched the jayz video I’m not done tho

But I can fix I think

[glacial umbra]

is 60 USD decent for 16gb 3000mhz ram?

[verbal quarry]

what ram?

[glacial umbra]

corsair vengeance lpx

[stoic island]

Not great

It's workable

[hollow grail]

got amazing

1111 whatcha think abt the silicon power ram?

[stoic island]

Ram is ram, I think it should be fine

[hollow grail]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08FTC6J1F/

started showing this to ppl

[stoic island]

Fair ig, I prefer 3600c16

[hollow grail]

true

actually i cant find the one i was thinking of but it was 3200c16 for like $60

[muted patio]

3600 CL 16

Or 3200 CL14

same perf

[verbal quarry]

has anyone noticed the 3060ti is coming out more frequently?

[muted patio]

Yeah

Lower binned dies always come out faster

They're basically dies that didn't make the cut for the 3070 and 3080

Trimmed and put in 3060's

[verbal quarry]

interesting

[muted patio]

That's how CPU's are made too

[verbal quarry]

would they perform a bit better then regular 3060s?

[muted patio]

They all start out high end, the ones that have defects and can be used are trimmed and sold as lower models

Imean, 3060TI

[verbal quarry]

huh i didnt know that

[muted patio]

3060 not a thing yet

[verbal quarry]

well thats what i meant

[muted patio]

Ye

perform better? No, all have the same core count, etc

It makes sense from a manufacturing perspective

[verbal quarry]

what was the reasoning of releasing the 3060ti first?

[muted patio]

They didn't

3080 came first

[tiny oriole]

I wonder how much cheaper the 3060 will be if it exists

[muted patio]

Probs $50-75

[verbal quarry]

well i mean between releasing the 3060 and the 3060ti

[cunning sundial]

It kills me when people go overkill on thermal paste. Anyone else?

[verbal quarry]

agreed but some people dont know how much is overkill

the dude that did it recently has learned a valuable lesson tho

[cunning sundial]

I've seen it as bad as dime sized drops seeping from all sides with the with the cooler on

I think that guy was replacing the board, the thermal paste was old

[muted patio]

The CPU got yarded out attached to the cooler

[cunning sundial]

But he didn't do any sort of pre boot to get it warmed up

[verbal quarry]

probably

[cunning sundial]

We should do a daily or weekly psa of common mistakes

[fallen escarp]

if i need help with my build do i post it here?

[muted patio]

Ye

[fallen escarp]

okay great

so, my case (corsair 275r airflow) only comes with one power connector. neither my mobo manual nor my case manual tells me what to do. my mobo is the rog maximus xii formula. help?

[muted patio]

These are the pins

match the connectors to the pin layout in the picture

PWRBTN = POWER SW

So it goes on the two upper right pins

Your front panel connectors are nowhere near correct, take them off and follow the pic 🙂

[fallen escarp]

ooo

[muted patio]

Page 37 in your motherboard manual

[fallen escarp]

yes im there

i just dont have a power led button which concerned me

[muted patio]

nope, that's fine

[fallen escarp]

thanks!

[muted patio]

not all cases do

YW

[fallen escarp]

managed to snag a 2080 Ti at close to msrp

like a boss

[muted patio]

NOt bad!

[fallen escarp]

it was like $50 over msrp because it is factory overclocked

[muted patio]

New?

[fallen escarp]

new as....

idk insert your own analogy

yeah it's new

[muted patio]

Not new in the box>

From a store

?

[fallen escarp]

it was not used before and it was not bought before

[muted patio]

K

[fallen escarp]

got it off of newegg

[muted patio]

KK

[fallen escarp]

anyway thanks for the help i can finally move on

[muted patio]

YW!

Enjoy it 🙂

[fallen escarp]

thank you very much, i will

[muted patio]

Still waiting on a 3070 -_- lol

[fallen escarp]

mood

have a good day :))

[muted patio]

You too!

[fallen escarp]

oh, also, can i put a USB 3.0 header in a USB 3.2 input?

[muted patio]

Yes

Right next to the front panel connectors yeah?

[stoic island]

Might have different pinouts

Usb 3.0 and 3.1 headers are 1 pin different iirc

[fallen escarp]

nvm, got it in

game ing

[muted patio]

Internal headers should all be the same

[stoic island]

(iirc it's 19pin for 3.0 internal, 20pin for 3.1 internal)

[muted patio]

Oh

I checked MB

[fallen escarp]

the pins match up

[muted patio]

manual it's a 19 pin like .30

*3.0

[stoic island]

But not sure about 3.2 and interchangeability

[fallen escarp]

it's the only usb 3 header i have on the MB anyway

[muted patio]

Everything I'm finding says the blue connector is good for 3.0/3.1 and 3.2

[fallen escarp]

okay, i finished the:
cpu
cpu cooler
storage
memory

now what? graphics card maybe?

[muted patio]

It'll just run at 3.0 speeds and not 3.0 speeds

Power supply!

Then GPU, it's the easiest

[fallen escarp]

oki

[muted patio]

Fans?

RGB wiring?

?

[fallen escarp]

i dont have hue 2 T-T

[muted patio]

GPu always last IMO since it's the easiest and takes up the most room

[fallen escarp]

i got a psu shroud tho

[muted patio]

Ye but cable routing

I dunno, that's just how I do it

[fallen escarp]

cable management.....oh, where do i start

its uhhhh unfinished to say the least

[hollow grail]

ok whatever

[fallen escarp]

THAT WAS A 15 MB FILE I PASSED THE 8 MB LIMIT

[hollow grail]

vintage whats a good kit of 3200mhz ram

need 64gb

[fallen escarp]

chrome workstation?

[hollow grail]

vm host

[fallen escarp]

ah

[muted patio]

Crucial Ballistix or G SKill

[hollow grail]

gimme link

:)))))))))

honestly 3000mhz is fine too i just need cheap and functional

[muted patio]

16x4 or 32x8

32x2 lol

[hollow grail]

why not both

if it isnt a huge price difference

[muted patio]

16x4 gonna be pricey

That's why I asked lol

Actually, I'm shocked

G skill is $10 difference ).0

O.o

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232943?Description=3200 mhz ram&cm_re=3200_mhz ram-_-20-232-943-_-Product

[hollow grail]

the nand is what kills cost

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232092?Description=3200 mhz ram&cm_re=3200_mhz ram-_-20-232-092-_-Product

[hollow grail]

coming from my other ram

[muted patio]

That's probably the most reasonable priced stuff too

Trident another $10 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232333?Description=3200 mhz ram&cm_re=3200_mhz ram-_-20-232-333-_-Product

[cunning sundial]

Do you guys think I should get 2 m.2s or 1 m.2 and one SSD?

[stoic island]

Why do you need 2 in general

[muted patio]

1 M.2 and a platter for mass storage

[stoic island]

Yea, ssd+hdd makes sense

But 2 sperate SSDs needs some explanation

[muted patio]

cries in 2x 1TB NVME

[cunning sundial]

I prefer a decent sized ssd over a hdd

Makes it easier to swap it out between my work pc and home pc

[stoic island]

Why not grab an external drive at that point..?

If you're gonna swap it around, an external drive would be much easier

[glass elm]

i've heard a lot about ryzen being better in workflow stuff but what actually qualifies as "workflow"? is it stuff like rendering 3d models and running code?

[little osprey]

How long will Ryzen 3 3100 and 1650S hold up in 1080p gaming

16gb DDR4

[muted patio]

not that long, both are low end in todays world

[stoic island]

It's all complicated with Zen 3 now, Zen 3 is basically better overall than Intel 10th gen, but previous gen, you get more cores for the price, giving you better multicore perf

[cunning sundial]

Because I currently don't plan on doing storage swaps often, but I like the option @stoic island

[hollow grail]

honestly just worried that it says its for z370 even though i know it doesnt rly matter at all

x399 is just SO PICKY

[muted patio]

Intel vs AMD ram is just a marketing gimmick

[hollow grail]

im aware

[muted patio]

For x399?

I mean, I'd only go off the QVL for that one

[hollow grail]

x399 just hates all my ram

[muted patio]

I mean, I'm running Intel ram on my xx570 so

[hollow grail]

yeah normal ryzen

[muted patio]

but x399 is it's own weird beast

[hollow grail]

no issues

[muted patio]

QVL that bad boy

[hollow grail]

but threadripper seems picky

wow my board went down in price

only $320 now

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-X399-E-GAMING//HelpDesk_QVL/

kill me

kill me again

[muted patio]

-_-

WHAT ARE YOU DOING

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x399-e-gaming-model/helpdesk_cpu/

[hollow grail]

lmao

still waking up ok

[muted patio]

It's right there

[hollow grail]

looks like this is the best bet for qvl

https://www.newegg.com/hyperx-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820104701

[muted patio]

Kingston huh?

Sure!

[hollow grail]

just dont wanna pay that

[muted patio]

I wouldn't either

What chips is it? have any of the same die?

[hollow grail]

oh im saved sort of

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232482

rated to work

this specific kit only

[muted patio]

DO EEEETTTTT

Two of those for the price of the Kingston

oof

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWKDnL Can smb rate this. I will have one EKWB PE 240 radiator at the bottom and a PE 360 radiator at the top. Each of the 5 vardar Fans will take one radiator (Noctua Fans will be installed at the side as intake). It will be a custom water loop with hardtubes. The 3080 will have a waterblock (EKWB quantum vector trio) and the CPU will have a monoblock from EKWB too. At the front there will be a Distro plate (EKWB EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11D D5 PWM D-RGB).

[hollow grail]

im gonna memtest the current kit

[muted patio]

Mmmm, good idea

@little osprey Really need 3600 CL 16 for that build

[hollow grail]

memtest pro time

[muted patio]

TO get the most out of that CPU

[little osprey]

@muted patio i thought that i could oc the ram, because it's like enthousiast ram

[muted patio]

Not always but sometimes

[stoic island]

Don't call Corsair ram enthusiast ram lel

[muted patio]

Ye

[stoic island]

If it ain't 3200 cl14, don't expect any OC out of it

That's my rule of thumb

[muted patio]

Otherwise, it's fine

RIght

Cuz a frequency increase usually requires a CL increase as well

So the C16 turns into C18

[little osprey]

the 3600mhz cl16 version costs 120 bucks more

[stoic island]

Don't buy dominator lol

[muted patio]

Ballisix, Trident Z

[stoic island]

The 3600mhz cl16 trident z neo is the same price as your 3200mhz cl16

[little osprey]

i mean i like the rgb on taht

that

[muted patio]

Hmmm

Check this out then

[stoic island]

Trident z's rgb look better than corsair's rgb imo

A solid strip of rgb looks amazing

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164206?Description=3600 C16&cm_re=3600_C16-_-20-164-206-_-Product

[verbal quarry]

what about crucial?

[muted patio]

Pretty similar in looks

[stoic island]

Ballistix also an option

[little osprey]

@muted patio yeah really?! I will watch some videos of it

[muted patio]

Also

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Description=3600 C16&cm_re=3600_C16-_-20-232-861-_-Product

Or all black

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906?Description=3600 C16&cm_re=3600_C16-_-20-232-906-_-Product

[fiery rapids]

if theres anyone tech savy in here that could pm me that would be awesome^_^

[cunning sundial]

@fiery rapids most people here are

[little osprey]

@muted patio all black is dope

[muted patio]

👍

[severe axle]

I think the dominators are supposed to overclock well

[muted patio]

And cheaper too

[stoic island]

@severe axle it's 3200 cl16 so

I seriously doubt it

[muted patio]

Yep

[fiery rapids]

i just dont want to bog a chat down with a tech problem unless thats what people do, i just joined this dc channel

[muted patio]

Just buy the right speed for less money lol

[cunning sundial]

That's what we do

[severe axle]

it depends on the one you buy

[muted patio]

UNless it's B die or C14, it's not going to overclock well, you'll lose timings

[little osprey]

Do you think it will function, because we never know with ryzen

[muted patio]

Yes, It'll function

I'd update the BIOS asap though for the XMP/DOCP settings

and CPU microcode (AGESA)

[little osprey]

Yeah I'll do it thanks bro

[muted patio]

Have to do that anyway via flashback before you install the CPU

Just an FYI

[fiery rapids]

so my computer randomly restarts when playing games i use to be able to play seamlessly. one of the games is sea of thieves the other that it restarts on but not as much is league of legends when i check my event viewer this is the error im getting

[little osprey]

What's with quad kits of g.skill

[muted patio]

?

[little osprey]

because they look fuller

[severe axle]

I saw someone get the 3200 c14 kit to 3800 c15

[fiery rapids]

Kernel-power and this is the general error The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

[little osprey]

and compability

[cunning sundial]

How's temp management?

[little osprey]

psu model?

[muted patio]

Mmm, no RGB though unless big bucks I think

[little osprey]

might be a psu dying
or other issues

[muted patio]

You mean 4x8 GB kit?

[little osprey]

yes

[muted patio]

Lemme look

$279

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232492?Description=3600 C16&cm_re=3600_C16-_-20-232-492-_-Product

Better sub timings though

[cunning sundial]

@fiery rapids when's the last time you cleaned the pc? Are all the power related cords connected securely?

[muted patio]

Not much more for the 4x8 kit

mmm, that error is jsut the generic Restart error

See if there's one before that

[little osprey]

@muted patio Yeah but does looking into the motherboard memory compability list help searching for compatible memory

[muted patio]

not really

if you're going to OC heavy then yeah,

[little osprey]

my best bet would be a dying psu
but still could be other issues aswell

[muted patio]

Well, I can get that error from just pushing the power button on my PC

Check for driver crashes or thermal errors

[fiery rapids]

psu is just the power supply right and also i opened it up like a week ago and got most the dust out of it with compact air

[little osprey]

Okay

[fiery rapids]

it looks like theres some driver crash errors

[muted patio]

Which driver?

[fiery rapids]

i have a 600w power supply it looks like

[cunning sundial]

Yeah psu is the power supply unit

[fiery rapids]

my headset driver keeps having an error

[muted patio]

Code and file name?

[cunning sundial]

Have you made any changes to hardware lately?

[muted patio]

Event ID

[fiery rapids]

no changes

[little osprey]

btw, have you checked if your cpu or gpu is overheating?

[muted patio]

This is gonna sound silly but....is it plugged into a USB 3.0 or 2.0 port?

[fiery rapids]

so ima be honest idk how to get all that i got this in 2018 ive been on only mac and laptops prior

[cunning sundial]

Likey software side, can't rule out hardware though. Did you clean it* after the problem or before?

[fiery rapids]

the problem happened before and after

how do i check if its overheating?

[muted patio]

USB 2.0 port or 3.0?

Blue or black port?

USB 3.0 + headsets don't like to get along

[fiery rapids]

that the headset is being plugged into?

[muted patio]

Yes

[fiery rapids]

its blue

inside

[little osprey]

is it a prebuilt?

[muted patio]

Try a black one

[fiery rapids]

ok

it is prebuilt dont sue me

[muted patio]

USB 3.0 + headsets can cause driver crashes and blue screens

[fiery rapids]

oh!

[cunning sundial]

Good to know

[fiery rapids]

could i plug like my mouse there

[muted patio]

Yes

[fiery rapids]

or same thing?

[muted patio]

Mouse or KB fine

[fiery rapids]

ok

[muted patio]

headsets are wonky

[fiery rapids]

its just the headset like could i just swap my wifi adapter and headset

sorry just making sure

[muted patio]

Not saying it's a 100% but worth a shot based on errors

Mmm, some WiFi doesn't like USB 3.0 either but try it

[fiery rapids]

okok ill just swap headset with like mouse or something

[muted patio]

Better idea for sure

[cunning sundial]

If it happens again. Link the build or parts

[muted patio]

Also, update ALL the drivers for the motherboard.

[little osprey]

download afterburner or cputemp, run one of those and check the temperatures and if it's above 90c under load, it is overheating.

[muted patio]

And Windows updates too

[cunning sundial]

In general for everyone, keep everything up to date except bios if you don't plan on changing cpu

[muted patio]

Mmmm

Not true with AMD

[cunning sundial]

I guess

[muted patio]

AGESA code updates offer CPU performance

And better PBO

AMD kinda wonk like that

[hoary cloak]

is a psu 550 with watts for a 1660 and 3600 ok

[cunning sundial]

Just make sure your cpu is compatible with the update*

[muted patio]

Yes

[little osprey]

@muted patio will the sub timing affect performace. like 3600 cl16 16 16 38 or 3600 cl 16 19 19 39

on amd

[muted patio]

A little bit but not as much as the main CL timing

Not worth worrying over IMO but if you can get the lower timings for the same price or close to, it's not gonna hurt

[little osprey]

okay will find some

[muted patio]

Rule of thumb

Ballistix will often be 16-16-16-38

G Skill will often be 16-19-19-39

[little osprey]

i found some g.skill with the same timings

[muted patio]

Ah, the Trident Neo?

[little osprey]

yes

[muted patio]

nice!

[stoic island]

Also rule of thumb, G.skill 16-16-16-36 or 16-18-18-38 is likely low end b die

For 3600mhz

[muted patio]

I think mine is Hynix IIRC

[little osprey]

@stoic island okay

[stoic island]

Mine is 16-19-19-39 hynix djr

[blazing aurora]

what's the best used gpu to get for around $200 that I can get realistically

[little osprey]

so i have to prevent to buy b die

[fiery rapids]

im so sorry just to make sure i was doing the right thing to update all my drivers to the mother board where would i go

[stoic island]

B die is a great die

[muted patio]

B Die is only important if you plan on overclocking a lot

[little osprey]

ahhh okay

[sullen spoke]

Yum

[stoic island]

Micron rev E, rev J, and Samsung B die are among the best dies for OCing

[muted patio]

Yes

[little osprey]

Will look for some of them

[muted patio]

OTOH, if you're going to OC the ram on Ryzen, you need to make a rather large leap from 3600-4400 or so

You have to desync the FLCK which is a performance hit

GOtta make up for it with frequency

Maybe 4200? Can't remember now

[little osprey]

I heard that Ryzen 5000 doesn't support FLCK clock above 2000mhz

[muted patio]

It doesn't

Which is why you have to desync FLCK and ram speed

Which causes a performance hit that you have to make up for with ram speed

Normally, FCLK and ram speed are tied together, IE 1800 FCLK and 3600 Mhz ram

[little osprey]

yeah

will look forward to it

[stoic island]

@muted patio iirc it's not worth any freq above 3800mhz because perf just plummets once you de-sync it

[muted patio]

Oh, it is. Forks told me about

I thikn 4400 mhz is the new meta

So super spendy

[stoic island]

Really?

[muted patio]

But 4400 is the lower limit to gain back the performance loss

Yes

[stoic island]

Huh

[muted patio]

Lemme see if I can find his post, one moment pls

[stoic island]

I know you won't ever make it back if you run it in 2:1 mode, but didn't know about perf in de-sync

[muted patio]

Ah found it

"4800 CL14 is the new meta for benching"

XD

GEEEEZZZZZ

[stoic island]

Lol

That's like the 5000$ ballistix max kit

[muted patio]

SO yeah you can make it up if you have DEEEEEPPP pockets lol

basically, anything over 3800 is a no go

[stoic island]

Mhm

[muted patio]

If you're lucky enough to get 1900 FCLK

[stoic island]

Deep pockets or lucky asf b die

[muted patio]

Forks also talked about that

As in, just because it's B die, don't expect it to OC

[stoic island]

I take 1900fclk as a given tbh

[muted patio]

With 5000? yeah

3000 series? MMmm, not so much

[stoic island]

I mean, 3200c14 is good enough for sure for "OCing" freq wise

[muted patio]

Just get 3600 C16 and call it a day lol

Same perf

[stoic island]

Because in terms of tCL ns latency, 3600 cl16 is actually slower

[muted patio]

and cheaper

Technically, yes. Real world, meh

GN tested it

[stoic island]

Ya

[muted patio]

And that goober that says 3200 C16 is just fine is making my eye twitch

[stoic island]

3200 c16 is fine
For Intel and first gen Ryzen

[muted patio]

Leaving 10+ FPS on the table doing that

I'm talking for 3600x or better

[stoic island]

I think of it as 5-10fps but yea

[muted patio]

For Intel yeah, Intel doesn't care about ram speed like Ryzen does

Depends on the game, for sure

BUt still, extra $10 for 10 FPS?

Most price/performance you'll ever buy

Spend $2000 on a PC and get 200 FPS. That's $10 per frame lol

[stoic island]

Yes

[pastel kiln]

hi ! i would like to build a rysen 5900x, asus rog x-570 and my question is about Corsair vengeance ram. I downloaded the memory QVL sheet and the model is not exactly the same should i buy (6 month in advance ?) the model in stock is cmw16gx4m2d3600c18 and on the list m2c3600c18 so it is only the (c) that is different. Thank you ! 👍

[muted patio]

6 months in advance?

I'd wait 6 months TBH

Prices likely to go down and QVl likely to be changed as BIOS updates come out

[azure cairn]

Hello

Building a PC atm

But I need to figure out how to remove this and move it to here

It's the SSD stand off i want to move it to 2280

[muted patio]

Can't move that one I don't think

I think it's rivted to the board itself. Is there another one in the screw pack that came with your motherboard?

[azure cairn]

Let me check

Sorry as installing the cpu cooler

Hopefully I didn't mess it up lol

I think it's this lol

[muted patio]

Hard to see but....try it!

[cunning sundial]

What cooler are you trying to install onto what board?

[muted patio]

Not cooler, M.2 standoff

[azure cairn]

Gosh I suck at pictures

Sorry I'm all sweaty and nervous lol

[muted patio]

Calm down, take your time

It's all good lol

[cunning sundial]

Sorry 😆, he said cpu cooler. I was very concerned he was trying to put a cpu cooler as a replacement for the m.2 heatsink

[azure cairn]

How do I install this?

[muted patio]

Threads into the hole for the 2280

Then the M.2 drive sits on top and is held on with a screw

Then the M.2 heatsink, if you have one, goes on the large post in your first pic

[next kestrel]

just with your fingers, line it up with the hole right distance at your m.2 and screw it in

[muted patio]

Ah

[azure cairn]

Gosh why are all the pics ugly

[muted patio]

Ok, so thread the standoff into the 2280 hole

Then, the M.2 in your picture goes into the M.2 slot and a screw holds it down on the post

That's why the cut out on the left side the drive

[muted patio]

Standoff goes under that

the little hex piece

Goes into the motherboard

[azure cairn]

But it doesn't fit

[muted patio]

What do you mean doesn't fit?

The standoff goes in the motherboard

remove the M.2

The M.2 drive goes on AFTER the standoff

Step 1

install the standoff (silver hex shaped piece)

Step 2 install M.2 drive

[muted patio]

Step 3 Install screw for M.2 drive

Won't thread in you mean?

[azure cairn]

Yeah?

It won't screw in

Sorry about this lol

[muted patio]

No, it's fine

What motherboard?

[azure cairn]

Rog strix

B550-f wiri

Wif

Wifi

Wait

I did it

My sister tiny hands help me

I love her

Context i have sausage fingers

[muted patio]

Thhere ya go!

[azure cairn]

Now to install the motherboard on to the pc case

Which is a different task entirely

[muted patio]

Got your standoffs in, right?

[azure cairn]

Already pre installed

[muted patio]

nice!

[azure cairn]

Phanteks P400

[muted patio]

Oohhhh

My P500A will be here Wednesday. 🙂

[azure cairn]

Jellly

[muted patio]

400 is nice too

mine is the non-rgb though

Plain jane

[hollow grail]

that the gigabyte ssd?

also vintage i might be getting a synology to play with soon

[muted patio]

oooooooooooooo

[hollow grail]

https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/RS3617xs+

this puppy

[muted patio]

I probably should do a NAS but

money and lazy

huge

It's the biggliest

[hollow grail]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1314184-REG/synology_rs4017xsp_synology_16_bay_nas_rackstation.html?ap=y&smp=y

[muted patio]

You need 16 drives for all your naughtiness

[hollow grail]

this isnt for me sadly

if it was for me id prolly use dell

its a startup thats gonna make me IT director

i like synology so we get synology, i like thinkpads so we get thinkpads, i like unifi so we get unifi

itll be nice

:))))

[muted patio]

LMAO

Your way all day err day

[hollow grail]

fr

honestly 99% of the time for this stuff my way is the best way

cant wait to get 16x wd gold 18tb drives

they said something abt "unlimited budget as long as its the best around"

[muted patio]

O.o

They have no idea what they just unleashed

[hollow grail]

we got 35m to burn

ill prolly scale down, getting all super high end stuff is no fun

sucks cause ill prolly end up with 2 work laptops

i want that intel clevo

but i like my chromebook

[azure cairn]

Yes it is

[hollow grail]

will prolly just powerwash it and set up as a work machine

[azure cairn]

Sorry for late answer

[hollow grail]

but i still have a few months to go

theyre gonna have a board meeting and tell me what they wanna do

and i get to set stuff up based on that

[little osprey]

Is it possible to transfer windows OS from a laptop to a desktop?

I need help replacing a DVD player for my Dell Latitude (GU40N)

[raw crane]

Is the Ryzen 7 3700x better than the Ryzen 6 3600

[forest heart]

yes

[little osprey]

There is a black thing on my dvd drive that seems to lock the drive in place - that I don’t see in models I am tempted to buy

[muted patio]

The unlock button?

They eject through the OS rather than the drive itself

Right click your DVD drive, hit Eject, see if it opens

[fleet pagoda]

Cooler on rigth?

[little osprey]

I think that the drive doesn’t work any more very well. It is indépendant from the drawer

[muted patio]

Oh, that's a manual eject

[hollow grail]

lol who still uses dvd drives

[stoic finch]

my pc is up and running lets goooo thanks a lot @muted patio

[little osprey]

Someone like me who has a Dell Latitude 6420 uses DVD drive

[hollow grail]

bad

[little osprey]

i use a dvd drive, but only for watching disk movies, and downloading drivers via disk

or playing old school disk games

[muted patio]

Honestly that looks like an OEM drive

not sure where you'd find a replacement

[little osprey]

probably is oem

amazon

[muted patio]

Yup

Surprisingly $30

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Latitude-E6430s-DVD-RW-Faceplate/dp/9573213893

[hollow grail]

incredibly lame

[little osprey]

Is it a question of removing that black thing from my OEM drive and putting it on the replacement?

[muted patio]

I think you have to open the lap to replace it

Take the bottom off

[little osprey]

meh

[little osprey]

want to know whats not lame?

[hollow grail]

me

[fleet pagoda]

Why doesnt my motherboard line up with the standoffs in my case

[little osprey]

getting a PNY XLR8 3070 for $100+shipping

[hollow grail]

inb4 picture of 3070

[little osprey]

?

inb4?

[hollow grail]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inb4

[little osprey]

but it wont be a picture, ik the person giving it to me. he got it, didnt like it so im giving him my 5700XT and $100+shipping for it

[fleet pagoda]

My motherboard isnt lining up w the standoffs in my case

1 lines up but the rest done

[muted patio]

What case and MB?

[little osprey]

But do I need to put it on the replacement drive? Not to affect the drawer, but to keep it inside its place?

[fleet pagoda]

P400a and b550m pro4 asrock

The last mobo i had lined up

It was the same one but it was defective

[muted patio]

IO shield slip out and is fighting you?

[fleet pagoda]

Maybe

It might be

[muted patio]

The whole assembly slides right back in it's place @little osprey

[fleet pagoda]

Wym

[muted patio]

That's usually my issue when things are off by a hair

[fleet pagoda]

What should i do

[muted patio]

Check your IO shield. Are they off left to right or up and down?

[fleet pagoda]

Its not at all

Not off

[muted patio]

What I'm asking is, how far off are the screw holes from the standoffs?

[fleet pagoda]

Oh

[muted patio]

Bro

That's in backwards

[fleet pagoda]

💀😹

Really

[muted patio]

Goes in from the OUTSIDE of the case

[fleet pagoda]

I put it in from the inside

[muted patio]

mmmhmm

Take it just like it is

to the outside of the case

and push it in from the outside

Oh, that's already popped in?

It looks like it's just sitting there?

[fleet pagoda]

It doesnt go in from outside

[muted patio]

Ok, well then

[fleet pagoda]

It was popped in

[muted patio]

The screw holes

Which way do the need to move?

Left? Up?

Or is the entire pattern different?

[fleet pagoda]

Like slightly up and left

Not that far it looks the same

Like i think it is the io shield bit its in right

[muted patio]

Yeah, so that would be the spring pressure from the IO shield then

[fleet pagoda]

How do i fix that

[muted patio]

Push a little bit and put a screw in

It's actually normal

IO shield is for grounding, needs to make good contact with metal around ports

Just push a little bit and you'll watch it flex in, yeah?

[fleet pagoda]

Ok ill try

[muted patio]

I've never seen one like yours TBH

usually they have little spring tabs like this

[fleet pagoda]

1 lines up and the rest dont

I cant push it over it still doesnt line up

It’s literally the same motherboard i had last time

[muted patio]

Take the IO shield out then

See if they all line up

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

It works w out it

Is there supposed to be like some sort of insolation on the io shield

Its kinda like a cushion

[next kestrel]

sometimes

just apply a bit of horizontal force

[fleet pagoda]

Should i just take it off

[muted patio]

You can

or try and put it back on

[lavish nova]

I've seen the cushion ones, you just have to be a little forceful with it, IMO the IO shield is the hardest/most annoying piece to install lol, you might have to fiddle with the MoBo screws to make it fit, I think thats what Vintageracer was trying to say

[stoic island]

Orrrrr you don't install one >:F

[lavish nova]

Its the ground for the ports

But ig you don't NEED it

[muted patio]

Yeah, can do without

[lavish nova]

But it'll help keep your system cleaner and to some extent it stabilizes the ports, but yeah not a necessity

[fleet pagoda]

So i dont need an io shield or i dont need the cushion

[muted patio]

Don't need an IO shield

[little osprey]

It’s ideal to have one

[muted patio]

if you can take the cushion off, do that

and reinstall the shield

[fleet pagoda]

I took the cushion off and im taking a break now bc im angry

[muted patio]

LOL!

Can't blame ya

[fleet pagoda]

I probably already broke the motherboard

[muted patio]

Nah

[stoic island]

You're not you when you're hungry ;)

[muted patio]

https://tenor.com/view/snickers-snickers-satisfies-gif-5270238

[fleet pagoda]

Lol

Ok so i can just not use the io shield it would be so much easier

[muted patio]

Just don't then

It'll be fine

[little osprey]

@muted patio can i lower the sub timings of ram without changing the frequency etc.

[muted patio]

Sometimes

[little osprey]

@muted patio weird question but yk the NZXT kracken that has the screen on it

[muted patio]

Kinda

Never played with one

[little osprey]

It’s 240 mm

[muted patio]

Ye

[little osprey]

How far could you overclock a Ryzen 3 3100 on it

Because my friend has that Ryzen 3

And wants that aio

🤣

[muted patio]

Not very far TBH

[little osprey]

So I’m thinking may as well overclock the Ryzen

[muted patio]

Getting Ryzen past their boost clocks is hard

[little osprey]

Even on a beastly cooler?

[muted patio]

It's not a matter of cooling

It's matter of AMD already getting the most out of it

[little osprey]

Okey

Well I guess I’m just gonna leave it non overclocked

[muted patio]

Yeah, just turn PBO on and let it fly

ALL the tinkering I've done with my 3700x netted an extra 100 over boost clock

Not at all worth it

If they are thermal throttling, just install the AIO and let PBO do it's thing

[blazing aurora]

is it viable to use air cooling only on a high end system (e.g. i7 + 3080)

[muted patio]

yes

[little osprey]

Precision boost overdrive?

[muted patio]

Gonna need a decent air cooler though like a Noctua

$80

[blazing aurora]

yea

[little osprey]

Correct ?

[muted patio]

Yes, precision boost overdrive

[little osprey]

Or be quiet 4

[muted patio]

Ye

[cursive wharf]

liquid cooling is basically reserved for major OC I'd say

or looks

[muted patio]

Or function. My AIO is exhaust. makes a nice room heater

XD

[little osprey]

That’s in the bios right

[cursive wharf]

with an air cooler it'll still come out of the case in the end, so eh

[muted patio]

Yes, it's in the BIOS

[little osprey]

Msi bios

[muted patio]

Depends on the case. NZXt case, it may or may not come out lol

Yes, PBO is in the BIOS

Usually under the TWEAKER tab

[little osprey]

It is like an auto overclock, and not dangerous right

[muted patio]

Yes

[little osprey]

Ok

[muted patio]

BIOS might say othewise though

[quartz crystal]

Now lemme tell you about buildin computers son
[4:06 PM]
it requires a technical expertise that even 2 capuchan monkeys could muster
[4:06 PM]
and copious amounts of cocoa extract to prepare for the assembly process
[4:07 PM]
trust me that part is far more important than you might think.
[4:08 PM]
beyond that you might need the intricate knowledge of a number coding system, a skill usually only reserved for number station operators
[4:10 PM]
however even a meager civilian can hope to acquire these skills through rigorous psyop indoctrination, most of which is conducted by the communist party of the people's republic of china. Now i know it may sound complex but really it's nothing shy of a simplistic algorithm comparable to the like of the golden ratio.
[4:12 PM]
now if you've been following along that means you are at least 3/5ths the way to completion of the twisted amalgamation cipher, which is crucial in the completion of the assembly process, more so than the copious amounts of stimulants.

[muted patio]

-_-

[cursive wharf]

please keep that to #general-chat

[little osprey]

Wdym

[muted patio]

Actually, just don't spam at all

SOme BIOS give warnings about PBO but it's fine

[quartz crystal]

listen i'm a confirmed expert in decryption i don't think i need you to tell me how to do my job

[little osprey]

Yeah I thought it puts voltage too high or something

[muted patio]

Nah

Not with the new AGESA code

So might wanna update BIOS

[little osprey]

What’s that

[cursive wharf]

well, it scares some people because they think that 1.4v idle is bad

[little osprey]

And is it

[cursive wharf]

it isnt

[muted patio]

AGESA is the microcode in the BIOS to run the CPU

[cursive wharf]

idle

1.4v load is bad, 1.4v idle is not - for vcore

[muted patio]

Yeah, my idle is 1.4 but my load is 1.3 or less

Actually, idle fluctuates a lot between 1.2-1.4

[little osprey]

How many MHz does PBO add

[muted patio]

Depends on the CPU

[blazing aurora]

is it possible to buy a cheap mining card and then get it repaired?

[muted patio]

Lemme check 3100

[cursive wharf]

depends on many variables

[muted patio]

base is 3.6

[little osprey]

What else do I need to tell

[muted patio]

Advertised boost is 3.9

[cursive wharf]

wdym repaired?

[muted patio]

So not a whole lot

Repair a dead GPU?

Only if the cooler is bad

[little osprey]

depends on the damage.

[muted patio]

Don't buy a dead card

EZ PZ

[cursive wharf]

PBO does things differently depending on mobo, mobo BIOS version, cooler, ambient case temp, silicon quality

actually, dead GPU is fun sometimes

I just RMAed a dead 1080Ti from eBay

it worked out apparently

getting it tomorrow

[little osprey]

@muted patio https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/hnaqwm/my_amd_ryzen_3_3100_went_crazy_on_aio_240_4650/

What’s this about

[muted patio]

I haven't seen that

H510 -_-

Phanteks P360

Lian Li

Something that flows air

[hollow grail]

did u see the lian li h510

https://www.lian-li.com/lancool-205/

[muted patio]

Yeah that case is poo too

Lian Li Lancool

[hollow grail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605421772912853002/793275321038274581/instidaruu761.png?width=507&height=507

[vagrant oak]

Does Best Buy restock 3060 ti ~1 time a week with their shipments?

[hollow grail]

found this filehost

[turbid python]

If someone can get me a decent build (With the small budget of meakly 300 usd) I will carry them in a destiny 2 raid once I get there one day

I was looking mainly for amd as they have cheaper low end parts

Mother boards anyway

[next kestrel]

get you a pc list or buy you one

?

because the second one isnt allowed

[little osprey]

300$ for a amd system? lol

[next kestrel]

ryzen 3200G system would work

[little osprey]

sorta

actually rn? you can't really make am4 build for 300$

[azure cairn]

Guys important question

[little osprey]

not even the 3000g gonna allow for a build that cheap

[azure cairn]

Is this connected Right?

[severe axle]

I think it’d be better to just get a $300 console, a 300usd pc would not get you very far

[next kestrel]

no

no

nononno

[still roost]

Joel H.#0841 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[severe axle]

put the 4x4 all on right side

[azure cairn]

Oh

Really?

[next kestrel]

idk how u got that in there

[severe axle]

are you overclocking cpu?

[azure cairn]

No

[severe axle]

ok then all on right side, ignore 4 pin on the left

[azure cairn]

Perfect?

[severe axle]

yes

[next kestrel]

yes

[azure cairn]

Thank god

Blury

I'm so tired

[fleet pagoda]

Im setting records out here

2 dead parts ina row from newegg

[muted patio]

Mmmm

More likely something else dead

or hooked up wrong

[fleet pagoda]

Newegg is horrible i got 2 dead parts

Im done😐

[little osprey]

newegg is a service?

[fleet pagoda]

Id

[little osprey]

you should RMA it then

[fleet pagoda]

Then wait another 2 months to get the part again

[little osprey]

you might have just have a bad luck

[muted patio]

I highly doubt you got two dead boards in a row

Something else is most likely the issue

[fleet pagoda]

Nothing is working

[muted patio]

Have you tested the power supply?

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

Psu fan spins

[muted patio]

You sure you just don't have the power switch in the right spot or something?

[fleet pagoda]

Its right

Nothing happens when i try and turn it on

[muted patio]

WHen you push button right?

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

[muted patio]

unplug all accessories except motherboard power

Try and power just that?

[fleet pagoda]

Didnt work

[muted patio]

The odds of you getting two dead motherboards are astronomical

[fleet pagoda]

I was grounded the whole time

[muted patio]

Remove GPU, RAM, just have in the CPU and power

[fleet pagoda]

Ill try that soon im so pissed off

[muted patio]

If you're not even getting motherboard lights, it's probably not the board

[fleet pagoda]

Wym motherboard lights

[muted patio]

B550F gaming right?

WiFi?

[fleet pagoda]

B550m pro4

No wifi

Asrock

[muted patio]

B5450m

Ye, gound it

[fleet pagoda]

Wym gound it

[muted patio]

Found it, I scrolled up whle you were typing

[fleet pagoda]

Ah ok

[muted patio]

There are lights on the motherboard, error LED's and POST lights

[fleet pagoda]

Uh idk abt that

[muted patio]

I have your manual

Im' reading it now

[fleet pagoda]

Okay um i havent seen led lights for the motherboard

[muted patio]

How many have you build before?

[little osprey]

Will this fit 9th gen Intel motherboard

[muted patio]

LGA 1151 yes

[fleet pagoda]

First build bc last time the mobo was dead

[muted patio]

Ok, so this is your first time DIY then?

I'm only asking so I know how to explain things

[fleet pagoda]

Ye but i have someone in another chat helping me

[muted patio]

Can you take pics?

[fleet pagoda]

Of the chat or pc

[muted patio]

PC lol

Your conversations aren't my business XD

[fleet pagoda]

Okay lol 1 sec

[muted patio]

I'd like a pic of the CPU power connector

Front Panel header

And the cpu cooler connected to the board

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[pallid cape]

Hi all

Can some one help me to make sure if this product N82E16883360024 VGA are 10 gig or 8 gig The VGA card is NVIDIA RTX 3080 in this PC

[fleet pagoda]

Im gonna take the gpu out so i can see the front panel connectors

[muted patio]

Good idea

We can post without GPU 😉 Get an error LED that way

[thorny tusk]

What cpu would be good for rtx 3070 or 3080

[muted patio]

5600x or higher

[gleaming quartz]

bruh no

[muted patio]

Intel side, probs 10700K or better

[gleaming quartz]

i have an r7 3800x and it performs just fine with a 3070

[fleet pagoda]

I cant get it out

[muted patio]

GPU?

There's a tab on the back of the slot

[fleet pagoda]

Im hitting it

Ur it wont come out

[muted patio]

Gotta pull it out just a little bit

[fleet pagoda]

Out

Alr i glt ot

Got it

[muted patio]

5600x = 3800x

[thorny tusk]

So what amd cpu would you suggest

[muted patio]

Dom, here we go

First pic, front panel connector, top row, move it over one pin to the right

Second pic, SPU fan goes in the lower header, not the top one

[pallid cape]

Hi all

Can some one help me to make sure if this product N82E16883360024 VGA are 10 gig or 8 gig The VGA card is NVIDIA RTX 3080 in this PC

[fleet pagoda]

I had it like that earlier

[muted patio]

Well, those two things are wrong and will prevent boot

last check, the CPU power connector

Take it back out and make sure the hook and latch line up

[fleet pagoda]

Ok i fixed rhem

[muted patio]

Check CPU power connector pls

[pastel ember]

Hi guys - still waiting on 3 parts for my first build, but what do you guys think of 3060 TI FE + Ryzen 7 3700x combo? How will my experience be on 4k 60hz? Keep in mind I've been playing Xbox One on 1080p 60 until now

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

[muted patio]

I've seen them in upside down before

4K on a 3060TI?

mmmmm

not as good as you think

[fleet pagoda]

The little latch thing should be at the top yeah?

[muted patio]

Ok

On the wire side, there's a hook yeah?

On the connector on the motherboard, there's a little stubby angle piece for it to catch on

Those two go together

[pastel ember]

what should I expect? appreciate any insight

[muted patio]

if you're expecting maxed out graphics, it won't happen.

Med settings for now, low settings as time progresses

[fleet pagoda]

Im pretty sure its right

[bronze tulip]

is there a way for me to wipe a hard drive without deleting games? or like is there a way for it to be recovered without taking years to download them all?

[muted patio]

Get a flash light or use camera flash on phone

Check for it, just to be safe

Had this happen two nights ago

Hard to see on black parts

[fleet pagoda]

They are supposed to be exactly lined up together?

[muted patio]

🙂

Mebbe not exactly

but close

[fleet pagoda]

Bad pic but can u see

[muted patio]

Can you physically remove it and check?

I know, PITA

[fleet pagoda]

Ur

Ye

[muted patio]

Pls and thx

[fleet pagoda]

Ok so theres a little black thing ontop of what it plugs into on the mother board and the cpu pins have that latch thing right

So they go on top of eachother?

[muted patio]

Yes

[fleet pagoda]

Ok

Thats how they were

[muted patio]

Good

Now, push button

[fleet pagoda]

Alr