#building-and-recc-chat
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the 3800x?
Yeah
It's not much though, 200 mhz or so
idk how to do that stuff xD
Tfw i just lost 128gb of ddr4
Honestly AMD auto overclocks so well, don't really need to manually overclock it anyway
Where go
Wut?

3800x is literally a 3700x imo
It is
Forgot where i put it
It's upclocked, that's it
(Even bin wise)
oh wow
My 3800x bin sucks
Lmao
TFW you misplace $500 in DIMMs
More
How much?
Knowing lili, probably ECC server ram, $1k lol
Yeah probably
oh and my ram is trident z 3600 16c
tyty
It is
Oh

and the psu is a seasonic 650w gold
Just fine
I would love to call you on discord sometime and you can just show me around your computers and servers and stuff sometime lili but V O I C E D Y S P H O R I A
chk pokits
That’s a lot of RAM
yea it is
Lili are you excited for DDR5 in a year or two?
will the b550 boards be able to take ddr5?
No
dang it
Will require new motherboards and CPU's
good lord
Honestly it probably won't hit consumers until early 2022
Maybe very late 2021 if we lucky
Am5 will likely be the DDR5 cpus
i got sometime then
A lot of it is out of stock
yea
There's some red RGB stuff still in stock, $85
Um
EYYYYY
Too fast to be useful
I can’t wait for DDR5
3600 all ya need
Holy crap lili
ik but it wouldve been a nice flex lol
xD
What CPU you gonna pair with that?
A Xeon or threadripper?
I assume this is server memory
-_-
32gb per stick?
Ooh, Samsung
3600
Insert Will Smith ‘that’s hot’
AMD eats up fast ram
AMD loves it
Yep
Especially Ryzen
Rn its 2666
So you are setting up a home server lili?
nice
Allison?
Yea
i just came back and saw that lol
Yeah it’s 32gb per stick
Yea
What have I walked into?
lili upgrading Allison
Cool
Wait
Wat
Oop Nevermind
Here
Yeah
Well I'm currently building a clue i have everything but a gpu
And it wont even boot
Nothing turns on
No
Check 2 things
Is everything plugged in correctly?
A: pins in bottom right of mobo
B: that your RAM is seated correctly
Yes
pins in bottom right?
do rams still work on dual channel even if theyre 1x8 x2
you mean front panel connections?
I’ve built like 20 computers and I still mess those up, even with manual open
i agree with the aformentioned troubleshooting steps
Can I send a picture into this chat?
you can i think
Yes
try
Wait wideus
I noticed it yesterday
Yes
Damn autocorrect
my powers have doubled since the last time we met
Lol
should have gone with that in the first place lol
confusing orientation
Yeah
I don’t even see the front panel connections
here take a pic of the whole thing
that is a pic of the whole motherboard
That doesn’t look like all of it
Usually there are 5
you remember looking at this from the manual, right?
Ah
need some help looking for a cable, its from a fan hub to my MB, pulled the wires from the connector....anyone know what this cable would be called?
rip
okay, that's not for front panel lol
this pic is directly from your mobo manual
z390a pro
Yeah
yep, i'm looking at the right manual lol
front panel pins are labeled jfp1
usb pins are for usb
JFP1 is located near the bottom right of the motherboard in this orientation
JUSB3 i see is above the sata ports
whats the aio that allows you to put you own images on screen?
It boots now
ayyyy
Thanks so much
you're welcome!
least we could do
one day, i swear front panel connections won't be confusing as hell
One day
I need help
I plugged everything jnto my pc but idk if i did it right because it wont turn on
Can someone call so i could show them because i am stoop
try what demon said first
did you build your pc?
Yeah
okay, so you know where the PSU is located then right?
No
Im in general because imma just show you
Lol
Forgot i had this
On board graphics?
Im gonna put it in once it turns on
Idk if i put in these right
Can someone tell me where the little plug on the left goes?
i'm gonna need to know at least your mobo lol
Idk if i got it wrong
no, lines'
Ok
Whats mobo
Jrgb1?
Oop
Wideus can I ask you a quick question when your done helping line
as per this diagram
What wattage psu do u think I would need for a ryzen 5 3600 and Rx 5600xt build
stupid front panel pins
Not planning to upgrade in the near future
Not for like atleast 4 years hopefully if it lasts that long
500W should handle that just fine
Fingers crossed
but going higher won't hurt, obviously
Ok originally i was gonna go with 650w but I saw a amazing deal on a 600w 80+ bronze
From EVGA
evga has some crappy psus in their product line lol
Is 600w bronze 80+ bd
like the EVGA N1 or N2, for example
Br
BR, right?
Yep
Oh ok I'm pretty flexible with the psu
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.6 Last Update: 29-11-2020 Gray - EoL / obsolete. Generally not recommended for purchase since its going to be pre-owned, refurbished or old stock. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (...
not always 100% accurate, but what most people rely on
Oh ok
K most my parts everything is good, I just didn't know about the psu.
Thanks for the help I'll use that list and look around
so i am getting a mobo with a 4 pin and and 8 pin connector and my power supply came with 2 4 pins for the cpu should i just buy another cable for the power supply
No. Use two 4 pins in the 8 pin.
Lmao actually using this chat i guess
New kit of ram refuses to run at 3600mhz
Trying to do anything just bootloops the system
Hell no
My Ryzen 5 3600 gets 50-60% utilization on battlefront II multiplayer with 2060 super (99% utilization) is that alright
Double forward topology, low tier/quality capacitors and cheap fan bearing, 30c temperature rating and no in-depth teardown reviews, protections have not been tested either
If ur in us then look at Segotep GPG
Or CXF, CX, Xilence performance X and along those lines
Is it ok to have only intake fans be from my AIO? Tried to have it too mounted as exhaust but mobo  capacitor blocked it
Should be fine.
Vintage fix it
Any of y’all seen anyone who has actually been buying from scalpers?
yea its sad
Just buy a 2080Ti at that point lol
yea lol
You’d be spending $500 less
ikr
Nothing to talk about here
Just have to wait for someone to come along so I can help with troubleshooting or build advice or something
Same question as always: budget and use?
Yeah
I’ve never used a Rosewill case, but it looks good otherwise
No complaints from me
It's fine, better than NZXT XD
the rosewill cases are pretty nice from what ive seen
true
easy on cable management
airflow could be better tho
i like how they put the front case airflow on the side
so then you can have a solid front
looks sus
the title is funny tho
cooler master has a cheap air cooler
JUNO PRO RBW, a CPU cooler is designed and incorporates a series of evolutionary changes to improve performance, delivers greatly performance , Rainbow LED’s, a 120mm performing fan, easy installation
LOL ikr
yea but is it 12$?
I mean, what you picked is literally no better than stock. UNless that's what you're going for.
yea i just wanted less noise/better looks
but the cooler is there for a bit cheaper
I mean, I wouldn't trust the fan on that $12 cooler to last long
At least with the GAMMAX it's easily replaceable standard size fan.
ok
Up to you though. The other one will work
I guess if the fan craps out it's almost cheaper than a new fan anyway yeah?
Any color preference or RGB?
I found this one too but it looks like blue only
yea
Cardboard box setup
those are actually pretty cool though
They're pretty neat, thermals tho 👀
They'd ask you to leave the store
It'd be better for sure, thermals probably wouldn't be too bad
neat
Reminds me of the world's smallest gaming setup
The monitor was something like less than an inch and the actual PC itself was like, maybe palm-sized?
Had RGB tho
yea
I had help from the server around a couple weeks ago to build a full setup that I'm tryna buy and put all together
Nice, what'd you go with
That nvme doesn’t look like the best bang for the buck
seriously?
Get the evo 970 same price and faster
That's a solid build, but I'd still opt for a 750W PSU
Future-proof
Nearly same price range
yea I remember picking that out and vintage and a couple others said it doesnt have Dram
Yea a 750 is the sweet spot with that build
only if you plan to upgrade to a 3080 tier down the road......
You really wanna trust that nice hardware to an unknown power source?
thats the psu I found
I haven't done any research on these tho so take them with a grain of salt, but reviews and everything seem fair
hm
Plus I trust CM as name-brand
yea same
Model > brand
The model has good reviews
Reviews honestly don't mean much without actual power testing, IE ripple, transients, etc
Fair enough, but either way some slight future-proofing for a few more dollars wouldn't hurt
hm
Yeah that's a good one, I love my CX
This list has a good Tier rating for a LOT of power supplies
so sad
Guessing Tom's HW
Both of those are Tier C for Cheap/low end systems while the CX is Tier B for another $10
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.6 Last Update: 29-11-2020 Gray - EoL / obsolete. Generally not recommended for purchase since its going to be pre-owned, refurbished or old stock. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (...
I was off
No, not the M
hm
now it should be fool proof
Are you planning to upgrade to a 3080 grade 4K or anything down the road?
And you want a 3060TI yes?
yea
K, I mean, you can save $10 then and get the 650 but the 750 won't hurt
CPU's don't draw much pwer
Either way works
uh
You can upgrade your CPU without going to a beefier PSU
I mean, it's only going to be 10W or so
I'll just keep it in incase I want to upgrade the gpu or somethin
650W is good up to a 3070 tier card
Then that 100W bump happens
Future proofing is nice only when you plan on going bigger the next time around.
hm
I've been sitting on a 700W PSU for about 5 years now, it'll be handy for the 3070 I get someday lol
I'd only go bigger if better games come out
If you decide not to go with a 750W you could devote that extra to a better M.2
I mean, the GPU power draws have stayed pretty level for quite a few years now
The Teamgroup is honestly fine
vintage you have a slickdeals acc?
There is no OS or game loading time difference between SSD and NVME, just FYI
SLickdeals?
I don't
saw someone comment on a ssd post with your pfp
nah ima go with the 750W
even tho im assuming you stole that pfp
That's me bro
lol
nice
ok
The link, if you could
do you race for cash or just for fun?
yeah one sec
Appreciate you
oh ok
slightly slightly different lol
look in comments
very very similar tho
yeah didnt directly compare til now xD
No worries, thanks for thinking of me
yup
mp34 just sitting back there
i got a sn750
when it was $62
mega good deal since we got good cashback on cc too
MP34 isn't bad
And honestly no one is going to notice the speed difference
Not for gamers or everyday users
Biggest thing is TLC over QLC. QLC is poop
yeah\
still sn750 and 970 evo are better than mp34
especially for their price rn
theyre both on sale
yeah
u bust that screenshot out almost as much as i bust out my cdn's speedtest results 
well heres my speed flex 
That and my WiFi speed pic everytime someone says WiFi sucks
10gb nice
hey building my PC and it keeps turning on and off after like a minute or two, I havent finished the build but pretty sure it shouldnt be doing that
technically that server is wired
It will actually do that a couple time TBH
It's the BIOS reading and setting the ram
I mean the build isnt done I dont have a screen on it so I cant tell whats up but Im just turning on the power fully
Just let it go until you either get the BIOS screen or an error LED light
its happened like 5 times
no GPU yet lmao
No error lights on the MB though?
will have to tomorrow
lmfaoo I didnt know it would shut itself off tho

word okay Ill try tomorrow, 😆
@muted patio im also so upset i cant use my hypervisor on this config
which ones better? Rog x570-e or the b550-f?
B550F will do everything you need
and the x570?
Honestly only good for bragging rights
That's more for overclockers and system pushers
oh ok'
For you running the 3700x/3800x the B550 will do everything you need and the X570 will do
yea i dont plan on oc anything
The only X570 I'd consider in that case would be the TUF Gaming WiFi
Not much bling (RGB) but features comparable to and better than $250 boards
Ahhh, you don't need $300 mobo for that cpu
its more expensive but i was wondering if it was worth it
Nah
then ill keep doing the 3800x/b550-f bundle
👍
if you ever find a 3700x/b550-f bundle ping me
im near the one in Columbus OH
$469
❤️
hopefully this is still in stock when i can afford it
Man, if you live near a Microcenter, why you buying stuff online?
They are THE brick and mortar to buy from
Like, online prices or better
aw 😦
uh i believe so
wait, 1 stick of ram?
i think he means 2 different sticks
i mean he said 2 rams
true
I have learned that what people say vs what it actually is can vary wildly
true
I mean, I've seen pictures that aren't even close to what they said
Like a CMOS battery then in the corner the M.2 is just floating in the breeze not screwed down and that's why it wouldn't boot
Even though they said the M.2 was installed
Mmhmmm
I mean, until the tape lets go
electric tape yes
Which it probably will because the sticky will get hot and zoop! Let go
oh
So, long story short
i never seem to have enough m.2 screws lmao
I've disassemble hard drives to get M.2 screws
ah ok, worth a try tho
Yo can someone see if this build is good or if it needs any changes?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWdYfP
gaming/streaming
Is the rgb psu necessary maybe spend your money towards effeciency
and how will efficiency help?
Damn ditch almost everythin
what should I replace them with then?
only got a 2k budget
@pastel barn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jqMdMv
even added 32 gigs because so much budget was left over
hmmm
@tough kettle A higher efficiency means less heat output and more " efficient " power draw.

I know what it means
and do you know how much of a heat output would it actually improve?
non-noticeable that's what
and "efficient" power draw
do you know what that will do
idk i just dont see the need in a rgb psu
knock a couple of bucks off of the bill
no one does
it's just a good psu that happens to have RGB
just why
the 3 3100 is going for 180 rn
Guys, should i build a pc with latest parts or old parts?
yeah
didnt even give credit
smh
my final pc list
I have ordered every part and recieved every part except for the CPU
Should I get an i5 10th gen or a ryzen 5 3600 for a 800$ budget
I got the i5 10th generation and am happy w/ it since it’s cheaper than the ryzen rn
Considering getting mobo + cpu
eeeeeek
Gratz
someone please help
with?
i can’t get it out
the nvme?
u pushed in the little click on the right side?
push the gpu back in the and then push in the thing and pull it out with equal force on either side
i cant push the gpu back in
lol
u have like 3 options
brute force it back in
brute force it out
leave it
well atleast thats all i can think of
i don’t really wanna try any of those
@upper cobalt try pressing down on the latch again
LETS GO
Sometimes happens to me, what happens is that right side clicks the lock back in place
i stabbed my motherboard
😂
Oof
it’s alright i can always get 2 16 gig ram sticks
Only one way to test
no 2 sticks of ram but not from a kit
It SHOULD work but will run at the slowest speed and timings of the two sticks
@upper cobalt how did you stab your Ram???
@muted patio in your opinion though do you think 3700x can see another 3 years or so of use?
3 years might be pushing it a bit but yes
if you're not trying to do bleeding edge things
Hey I got a problem I’m trying to replace my mobo and when I too off my cpu the cooler won’t budge and a flake of dry thermal paste got on the pins
Pls help
Reason: Bad word usage

Mmm.....if it were me, I'd be using 90%+ Isopropyl alcohol and a super soft bristle brush. Alcohol will break it down
Be very gentle and you won't bend pins. No pressure, just movement
K
Not gonna get 99% in a store. 90% fine.
anyone got a good monitor suggestion that won't break the bank (looking to get three total), and looking for curved displays if able that won't destroy my bank account like a bad night at the bar after a one night stand....
next time, load up the CPU and get it warm before you try and remove it
Softens up the paste
Alcohol + soft brush is your friend here
Would I soft unused paintbrush work or something
The smaller the better
Yeah
That should be fine right @muted patio
Yes
Thank you so much
YW
There actually might be a bigger problem the pins are very slightly bent but u can’t even see it on camera
They should fall back into place when they go into the socket right
As long as you're careful
It's fine
Done
Ehm, twist carefully
Should I Get an orion?
Orion what?
8Pack OrionX
Whats the best gpu for a business pc
Onboard
Could I use a flat head screw driver to pry the cooler and cpu apart
INtegrated graphics if it's just an office PC
No, do NOT use a screwdriver
Need a very flat tool like a drywall putty knife
K
onboard or a 1650 if it needs cuda
most will not need cuda
so
@stoic finch If it's not time sensitive you can get specific solvents for thermal paste and work at it bit by bit along with a flat tool. The main concern is using too much force and damaging the cpu.
or just twist it gently to dislodge it

Yeah it is on there good
I didn’t turn the pc on at all today
So it it completely hard
You used thermal PASTE and not GLUE, right? It's still semi soft?
...
I've seen it before lol. Not pretty
how would you get it off if its glue?
can anyone help me get a build with a 3060 ti and ryzen 5 5600x with a budget of 1000
i can
it can be 1100
cool are we building with a case?
yes
any specific 3060ti?
founders becuase it's the cheapest
sounds good give me one second ill make the build
alright thank you
Got it
darn it you beat me to it lol
I have em saved XD
@stoic island could i have ur $600 build list?
i need to save them too ya know
is 650watt enough
OH yes
does the case provide good airflow
Yes
is the saberant rocket better than the 970 evo
Note:The video card PCI-Express 12-pin power connector adapter is being supplied by two 6+2-pin power connectors. Please ensure that the 6+2-pin power connectors are not daisy-chained and do not share the same power cable.
is this something I have to worry about
No
No
are the dimensions ok
Define dimensions
U just need 2 separate 8 pin connectors
Note:Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.
alright
Leaves some room to add a larger HDD for storage if you want to
Its fine ur just using stock cooler no ram clearance problems
Or RGB or something
isn't the stock cooler for the ryzen 5 5600x loud?
No
so I don't have to worry about the noise
not unless you're going for a completely silent build
It's no louder than the case fans
U can always turn fan speed down
the hyperx cooler that everyone talks about is much more silent right?
yeah
is the cooling better
Its more money for not that better perf
Yeah
hyper 212 not worth over stock
Nope
if u want a quiet cooler that doesnt look like ass get be quiet
if u want a quiet cooler get noctua
Spendy though
quiet isnt cheap
Noctua nh-d15 chromax.black
is the ryzen 5 5600 non x version 70 dollars cheaper?
There is no non x version yet
I heard about it
a dream
the noctua is 100 bucks more
Yeah
vintage i found a seasonic gold psu for that price on the build you sent
Yea but the cooling is a lot better
Which gold?
Ig I'll stick witht the stock
Yea uh that psu kinda bad
CX-M are the bad ones
seasonic ass superflower number 1 

For twice the money XD
CX just fine for 95% of people
honestly this looks god tier
Is that really worth it
I doubt this person gonna LN2 lol
im talking about the GM
The one in my list is a CX?
seasonic gm is the one im talking about
Same Tier B as the CX
Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I couldn't find a Tier for the new Enermax Marblebron PSU's. They are only a few months old though, I think.
marblebron is listed Tier C, low priority
So not the greatest. Haha I see my old PSU on tier C as well and its still going 8 years later.
Is it ok it there is some excess thermal paste on the cpu heatsink/ next to it
It wil use th elowest latency if you do
One is 16-18-18-36
The other 16-18-18-38
Ah, that's not bad
SOmetimes ram sticks don't mix right so try it and see what happens
Aye thank you cuz I found a deal of vengeance Lpx for 45
@muted patio el frente asked a question about his cpu
If not I'll just use it on a new build
Is that a Core GM or a FOcus GM seasonic?
@stoic finch Old paste or new? If old, clean off before reinstalling
Make everything clean and shiny
Ok
Is this fine


