#building-and-recc-chat

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remote iron
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@mossy citrus

stoic island
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Shipped from China is a no no @remote iron

mossy citrus
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Lol

remote iron
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Alright lol

stoic island
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Usually takes ages to ship and all

remote iron
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Yeah true lol

celest glade
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I have a problem with my BIOS

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so I noticed that my fans were performing below expected RPM

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so I decided to move 1 fan from the fan hub to a motherboard header

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so then, 3 fans were on hub and 1 on motherboard

remote iron
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Can a 1 or 2 gb graphics card run gta

celest glade
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but now I can't see the speed of the hub

mossy citrus
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Most bios have an easy mode

celest glade
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only the fan

mossy citrus
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Enter that

celest glade
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yes

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it don't show

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fan4 is single fan

mossy citrus
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Thats normal

celest glade
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fan5 is hub

mossy citrus
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Applies same speed on all hub

celest glade
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but I don't see hub speed

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and when I had all fans on hub, I did see speed

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but my system can still recognize that the hub is connected

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and can change its speed

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I've tried changing headers

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but nothing works

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I guess it doesn't matter though

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because the fans still work

little osprey
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building on ibuypower. 3060ti or 3070?

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you can pick the 3060ti model and the 3070 would be from whatever they eventually get in stock

hollow grail
little osprey
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noted.

hollow grail
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and i wonder

little osprey
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it definitely is high pricewise than pcpartpicker

hollow grail
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if i get ssds from Newegg2 and get the allstate warranty from them

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and just burn the hell out of them

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and when they die replace them

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wonder if thats viable

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maybe when 8tb of cache becomes too small

celest glade
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ok I figured my problem out

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for some dumb reason, every single header on the fan hub has to be populated for it to be recognized as 1 fan

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that basically means that I have to sacrifice fan speed to see my fan speed

tender stag
glacial umbra
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cpu bottlenecks is rough

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jeez

glass elm
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what's a good cpu/gpu to play triple A games on med/high settings at around 60-75 FPS?

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would r5 3600 + 1660s work? or would an i5-10400/r3 3100/r3 3300x (cpu) or rx580 (gpu) or something be better for a bit of a budget build?

glacial umbra
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I'd recommend the 3300x but you probably won't be able to get your hands on it, atleast not at a realistic price point

little osprey
little osprey
glacial umbra
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10400 also has decent gaming performance but lacks behind of productivity

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it's not overpriced, it's not in stock

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basically scalped

little osprey
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yeah

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though when it is in stock, it's overpriced

glass elm
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it's only $115-$130 msrp right?

glacial umbra
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I'm pretty sure it's 140 or 50 yeah

glass elm
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(assuming in stock)

glacial umbra
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covid is inflating prices a bit unless you go intel but ryzen has a better upgrade path

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I'd wait for prices to go down, which is what I'm doing myself before I get the 3100

little osprey
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though intel has some good priced CPUs rn

slow gate
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Money sounds like a good thing to have, I currently don't have this thing called "money"

glacial umbra
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it's helpful, money

glass elm
slow gate
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What good is an Optiplex 780?

glacial umbra
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intel is probably the best budget choice right now which is ironic

little osprey
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10400f is absolute worth for 150$
and next year we gonna see the 11th gen, if you gonna game only, both company have good options but if you aim to do productivity stuff thats need more cores, then AMD is the way to go

glass elm
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ah ok, thanks guys!

little osprey
glacial umbra
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I think the main problem is that amd doesn't have stock and prices are going up because of it

little osprey
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ye

glacial umbra
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a lot of ryzen chips are way above msrp right now which sucks because it's the last thing I need in my build

little osprey
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also 11th gen is looking bad for intel

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i9 with 8 cores only

little osprey
glacial umbra
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I'm just waiting for the 3100 to come back in stock at best buy, they have actual pricing

slow gate
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How good is an Optiplex 780?

rocky thistle
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when putting my mobo in my case should i use the metal washers that came with it for the screws?

rich helm
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No I don’t think you need washers

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Not for any case or mobo I have ever seen

sage agate
little osprey
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Hello, I have made a couple adjustments to my build and would like it if someone could take a look to make sure it all looks good and or make some suggestions please. Id like to get this purchased today. Im a beginner with this PC stuff so forgive me. Thanks guys

desert gulch
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@little osprey here's my ideas for that list... 1. Cheaper mobo, way too much for what other components are. 2. Get a better ssd. Get a sn750, samsung evo 970, or mp34 if you can... 3. That gpu is insane on price, normally around $230

little osprey
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@desert gulch I appreciate it brother. Are you able to make changes to that list? If not thats totally fine, I can go through and pick other stuff and then show you when im done

desert gulch
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Yeah sure

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I'll make a new list real quick

little osprey
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@desert gulch Right on I really appreciate it

desert gulch
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Yup for sure

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You gonna be editing and streaming or just gaming?

little osprey
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@desert gulch I do game but I do computer programming and designing so I need it for that (my mac is just not able to handle all of my tasks) I also do game on console but will use my PC for that also

hollow grail
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ssd gronse

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HOLY

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549 for 1660

desert gulch
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Ike

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Ikr

sage agate
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Thats dumb

still roostBOT
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Th3_PuRpL3_p3N#4213 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sage agate
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Crap. Forgot about that

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Wait

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Why are they so high?

desert gulch
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Supply and demand

sage agate
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Thats strange

desert gulch
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Like no stock and lots of demand

sage agate
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Who wabts a 1660???

desert gulch
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For like $230 it's great

sage agate
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For 230 yeah

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But for 500+ nah

desert gulch
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But yeah for over 300 it's not good

sage agate
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No

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What is the best graphics cars for under 300 tho. 5500xt?

desert gulch
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id say 1660super

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or maybe even ti

sage agate
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Yeah

desert gulch
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but super better value

sage agate
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True

desert gulch
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since you get encoders and stuff

sage agate
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I got a 5500xt in my first build

desert gulch
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dont get those with 5500xt

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nice

sage agate
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Bit anymore

desert gulch
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@little osprey you need wifi or no?

sage agate
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3090 now. Build number 6

little osprey
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@desert gulch Yes pleas

desert gulch
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ok

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@little osprey thats what i came up with

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could save money by going air cooler

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only thing is I put in a 3070

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which are hard to come by at the moment

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but i really suggest waiting for new gpu

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your looking at over 2x the performance easily while being cheaper than the 1660 super is at the moment

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If i were you id try to buy a 3070 until you get one, then after its on its way buy rest of parts

little osprey
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@desert gulch thanks for that. Yeah I just saw that. Well what would you put in place of 3070 being that I need to make this purchase like today. My mac has been crashing and on its way downhill fast.

desert gulch
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uhhh

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if you dont need encoders, which help with rendering, streaming, exporting, stuff like that, id go 5700xt

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but you could go with a placeholder card that will work and not cost much

median acorn
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Look for a RX 570 if you don’t need much of a GPU

desert gulch
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yeah

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570 will work, not a ton in games and ssuch

median acorn
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A 5700XT is more around 400-500 bucks so that in my opinion defeats the purpose of a placeholder

desert gulch
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yeah

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i was thinking if they want to buy a card thats perma then go route of 5700xt

median acorn
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Ah ok

desert gulch
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yeah

median acorn
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Then yes

desert gulch
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i think 5700xt is around $450 rn

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but way way better value than 1660s

median acorn
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@little osprey if you have more budget I would step up to a RX 580 for a placeholder

desert gulch
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still a 3070 would be way better

median acorn
median acorn
desert gulch
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yeah

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if not streaming editing or rendering id go 5700xt

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otherwise go nvidia

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or new 6000 series radeon

little osprey
desert gulch
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well thats a different mobo

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thats a intel chipset

little osprey
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See thats how you know im a beginner at this - I must have done something and removed the AMD i had

desert gulch
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lol we all do it

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also theres a better power supply for $5 more

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doesnt show its in stock on pcpartpicker but its on newegg rn i believe

median acorn
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That’s overpriced as hell

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They are supposed to be 170 at most

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If you are gonna spend 250 you might as well get a 1660 S LOL

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But then again those will be 350

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So those will be pointless too

hollow grail
little osprey
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Guys im sorry I somehow jacked my list all the way up and now cant seem to get it back. Can you create a new list with parts that are available - as long as I can upgrade parts in the future I just need something ordered today.

median acorn
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It’s not his final card

hollow grail
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Lmao

median acorn
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He’s waiting for a 3070

narrow shore
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well, guess i'm sending my AIO back

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the tubes aren't flexible enough to get it where I need it

remote iron
icy wave
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Hello all, I’m about to start building my first pc, I’ve got a 5800x and an x570 MSI MPG gaming edge, after watching a video on how to flash the bios the creator had an issue using the usb stick I have ordered (sandisk ultra 3.0 32gb) and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a USB that would offer a completely seamless flash

slim escarp
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Noo my mobo shipping got delayed now I have to wait 2 weeks to start building while the rest of the parts are coming tomorrow 😭😭😭😭

tulip arch
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So I have I5 9400(non k) 6 cores 6 threads. 2.9ghz > 4.1 ghz , 1660 super with two sticks of 8gb ddr 4 2666hz

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So would I have to increase my ram to get higher frames for the reason of frame drop in Cold War

urban trellis
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No

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@tulip arch you have enough ram to stop frame drops you might want to upgrade gpu and cpu

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What settings do you play on

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Acctually just upgrade your gpu

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Or play on lower detailed settings

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Or there are some optimizations you can do dm me and I can help you @tulip arch

silent canyon
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Anyone have mobo recommendations for a r5 3600 matx under 100?

meager dagger
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Can someone let me know if that temperature is normal?

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I'm new to pc building and I just built my first one

viral ore
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its fine

meager dagger
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Ok thanks

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Just making sure

arctic jungle
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It needs to be at 100 all the time

meager dagger
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Oh ok

viral ore
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always gotta keep it 💯

viral ore
meager dagger
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?

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So is it bad or?

rich helm
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No temps should not exceed 80-85c to be safe but anything under is fine

meager dagger
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Ok

rich helm
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Do you not have any other fans

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Besides your cpu cooler

meager dagger
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I do

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3 intake, and 1 outake

rich helm
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Are they plugged into the mobo

meager dagger
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All them work

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But the top of the 3 intakes just stopped working

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I dont know why tho

rich helm
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Cause in the pic it doesn’t show fan speed for any other fans

meager dagger
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Dam idk why

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I'm going to take it apart rn and check

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Because it also doesn't detect my ssd either

rich helm
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The fans are plugged directly into the mobo and not into a fan hub or something right

meager dagger
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Nah j don't think their plugged into the mother

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My ssd is installed but it doesn't show up

little osprey
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Should I replace my 28" 4k 60hz monitor for another 24" 1080p 144hz monitor so both my monitors match?

cyan aspen
severe axle
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very unbalanced

vital warren
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prices are...

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extremely rough

rich helm
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@cyan aspen not very good

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You have an ok gpu and cpu but like a trash ssd

next kestrel
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sff psu in an atx build

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:l

hoary lichen
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It displays anything you want on the side panel

next kestrel
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i should let you know

hoary lichen
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?

next kestrel
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that case has 3 fan mounts

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for 120mm fans only

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2 on the side and 1 in the back

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so the airflow is :l

hoary lichen
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Oh

next kestrel
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just get a regular sub 100$ case and a second monitor

hoary lichen
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Im not even at my pc rn

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Im actually 20 hours away from it

next kestrel
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yea but that case is a general stay away

hoary lichen
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Any other cases that have a display on the sides?

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Or is that the only one

weary bluff
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I bought an nzxt m22 aio that was listed new from a highly reviewed seller and it turns out it’s missing m2-screws and washers as well as the usb cable. Is it safe to install it with 3 mounting screws on the backplate and if I don’t have the usb, is it just going to look like a mirror? Pm me or @ me

hollow grail
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i mean its sata so ew

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but it works fine enough

blazing aurora
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what's the best wifi adapter to buy for the price

uneven mist
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wifi?

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why not ethernet

hollow grail
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because running 100+ feet of cable is slightly less convenient than installing a wifi card and connecting in under 5 mins

uneven mist
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lol

little osprey
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@uneven mist I have an Asus that was like $40

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Can connect to 2.4ghz and 5ghz wifi

uneven mist
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i dotn need one

little osprey
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Max speed of 1200mbps

uneven mist
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@blazing aurora does

little osprey
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Off pinged wrong person

uneven mist
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but nice

little osprey
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@blazing aurora sorry, that was meant for you. Asus wifi reciever for $40

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Sorry quak

cyan aspen
gleaming elk
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Question my pc wont boot but fans light up and spin

stoic island
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@cyan aspen I see a lot of things I'd change, what'll be the use?

uneven mist
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does ur mobo have like an error light @gleaming elk ?

upper cobalt
cyan aspen
gleaming elk
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I have a msi b450 mother board dont know if it has error light and yes everything is plugged in

uneven mist
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what b450?

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tomahawk?

upper cobalt
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your hdmi cables plugged into your gpu?

stoic island
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So, lemme start off with the basics

gleaming elk
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Tomahawk max

stoic island
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Win10 key can be bought for like 5$

uneven mist
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aight

cyan aspen
upper cobalt
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ebay

stoic island
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A lot MORE of the budget should be allocated to CPU and GPU

upper cobalt
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that cpu is not good

stoic island
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That motherboard is horribly overkill for that poor CPU

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A 3100 is a ~105$ msrp chip

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To use a 360$ board for it is... Interesting

blazing aurora
little osprey
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👍

stoic island
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And monitor wise, at least should be 144hz

cyan aspen
blazing aurora
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$360 board for a $105 chip kekw

little osprey
upper cobalt
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but you don’t need that one

stoic island
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@cyan aspen a 170$ B550 aorus elite ax does the exact same thing that board does in terms of upgradability

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Hell, a ~100$ B550m pro4 offers the same upgradability

cyan aspen
little osprey
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I agree $360 too much, spent $200 on my x570

stoic island
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@cyan aspen if you want to burn 200$

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That's the only reason

little osprey
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Spent $200 on a msi mpg x570

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And it's compatible with the 5000 ryzens

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🤷‍♂️

blazing aurora
stoic island
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Nah

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@little osprey low end msi x570 sucks

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Vrm overheat sad

pine kayak
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other low end 570x are good

stoic island
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@pine kayak bios flashback

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So uh

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Yea

little osprey
cyan aspen
little osprey
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Give me a sec to find it

stoic island
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@cyan aspen yes, when people have 5000$ to spend on a PC, they don't mind spending 200$ extra, and the reviews won't reflect the extra money paid

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If that board was 200$, yea I'd be a good board

cyan aspen
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ok

little osprey
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Here's my board

stoic island
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Lemme dig up the debauer vrm testing again

pine kayak
stoic island
pine kayak
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they show the problem with the msi blard

muted patio
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TUF X570 WIFI was one of his favorites

pine kayak
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of heat vrm

stoic island
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@muted patio which sadly doesn't have bios flashback

little osprey
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Well it was the ONLY motherboard within 50 miles that wasn't an a320

muted patio
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Not needed unless 5000 series Ryzen

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?

stoic island
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(going back to the start, I choose B550 aorus elite ax with that as a reason)

little osprey
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It really sucks that best buy has a monopoly in this area

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I wonder what it'd take to open a microcenter here🤔🤔

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Especially with a military base next door

mortal void
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question, does ASRock B550M Pro4 have good VRMs

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if I ever wanted to try and OC lmao

muted patio
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What CPU?

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5900x? 5950x?

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I wouldn't

stoic island
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I'll edit it when I finish eating dinner

cyan aspen
mortal void
muted patio
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it's fine

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That CPU doesn't pull enough wattage to worry about

mortal void
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does 650w give enough headroom for OCing? It'd be running a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT alongside the 3600

muted patio
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Plenty

glacial umbra
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man

mortal void
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even if I OCed both?

glacial umbra
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I'm really hoping for the 3100 to come back into stock soon

little osprey
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I'm running a 750w, a 3700x(going to be OC starting September 8th), and a 5700xt(wanting a 2070). Should be set after the 2070 Super

muted patio
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5700XT = 2070, why the lateral move?

little osprey
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Ray tracing

muted patio
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Ehhhh

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Not worth it

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Merely better reflections in mud puddles lol

little osprey
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Yeah, but I'm paying $15/month for ray tracing for some games thru GeForce Now

muted patio
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Um

little osprey
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I'd rather a gpu with it built in

muted patio
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You know those are rendered elsewhere not on your PC, right?

mortal void
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just get 6900XT for Raytracing weggsmug

muted patio
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Got it

little osprey
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@muted patio ik exactly

little osprey
muted patio
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I mean, it;s still not worth buying a 2070 for that

mortal void
little osprey
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I'd rather not deal with scalpers for a 6900xt

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For anything really

muted patio
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I mean, you realize you can get a year or two of GeForce now for what the GPU would cost you? Probably 2-3 years

little osprey
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True, but Now doesn't have every game I play

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Plus a 2070S is better for VR which I want to get into as well

gleaming elk
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Everthing is plugged in but my still wont boot

little osprey
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I'd get a 3000/6000 series if not for scalpers as well

gleaming elk
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Hdmi is in mobo

little osprey
gleaming elk
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My gpu fans wont spin too

muted patio
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They may not

little osprey
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Most don't until it reaches a certain temp

gleaming elk
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Plugged into board and power

weary bluff
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If an aio has 3 stand-off screws to the motherboard will it make it unstable or affect thermal levels?

muted patio
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SOme cards have a "Quiet Bios" that won't activate fans until a certain temp is reached

gleaming elk
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Does rx 570 have that?

muted patio
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3 out of 4 screws?

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It does, actually

weary bluff
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Yeah

muted patio
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Yeah, don't do that

gleaming elk
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I have all screws

muted patio
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Not an even pressure on the CPU

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WOn't cool well at all

weary bluff
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Is there anything I can substitute for the missing screw

little osprey
stoic island
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Another screw

little osprey
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But plug hdmi into gpu not mobo nova

gleaming elk
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I did

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Could m.2 have anything to do with it?

muted patio
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Lights on motherboard?

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Case fans spin?

cyan aspen
gleaming elk
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All lights and fans spin

stoic island
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(I'm around, it's just very annoying editing list on mobile, will get to pc after finishing eating)

muted patio
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All lights and fans spin. What motherboard?

gleaming elk
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B450 tamahawk max

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By msi

muted patio
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CPU power cable plugged in?

gleaming elk
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Yep

muted patio
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What CPU?

gleaming elk
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Ryzen 5 2600

little osprey
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What is a good placeholder gpu for 3070 - Ive googled but keep getting different answers - any opinions?

stoic island
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Depends on how much you want to spend for a temp gpu

muted patio
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CPU fan spins?

gleaming elk
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Yep

muted patio
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K

idle hawk
little osprey
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600 or less. I just need it to be available so i can get it ordered today

muted patio
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Plug the HDMI into the video card. PSU switch on, press power button. This is a video out issue

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make SURE your monitor is set to HDMI input also

stoic island
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Hm, I'd rather reccomend something more like the 300$ mark, since you'll be replacing it for a 3070 later anyways

gleaming elk
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Its on hdmi

muted patio
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If the card has multiple HDMI outlets, try a different one

cyan aspen
little osprey
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300 is fine. What do you have in mind?

stoic island
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Something like a 1660 super at a reasonable price

gleaming elk
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Only 1 hmdi out slot

muted patio
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Anything you can grab. Everything is inflated right now

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Got a spare GPU you can throw in there to test?

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because at this point, either the GPU is bad or the HDMI cable or something

gleaming elk
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Ok ill try another gpu real quick

muted patio
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Yes

fleet pagoda
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Whats a rlly cheap windows 10 ley

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Key

muted patio
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If that doesn't work, perform a Clear CMOS using the jumpers or by removing the battery

mortal void
gleaming elk
fleet pagoda
muted patio
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Easiest way is to unplug PC from wall pwer

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Remove the motherboard battery for a few minutes then put it back in

mortal void
gleaming elk
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Ok

muted patio
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Plug in power supply, power up unit

fleet pagoda
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I dont need pro

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But its 7$

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8$

mortal void
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fair enough

gleaming elk
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How do i remove mobo battery

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I see it but dont know how

muted patio
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Pop it out with a fingernail

fleet pagoda
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Whats dif between 32 bit and 64

muted patio
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Should always be 64 bit these days

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Has to do with memory addressing

fleet pagoda
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Ok

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Ty

muted patio
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YW

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Basically you can't use more than 4 gigs of ram with 32 BIT OS

little osprey
muted patio
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3600 CL 16

gleaming elk
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Thats the battery right?

muted patio
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SPending $1800, get good ram

mortal void
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32bit can only run 32 bit programs and 64 is able to run both as well as what Vintage said
@fleet pagoda

muted patio
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Yes Nova

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Push the little silver tab away from the battery

gleaming elk
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Itd not comming out

muted patio
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It'll pop out

stoic island
gleaming elk
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Its not popping out

muted patio
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Why is your M.2 floating in the air?

mortal void
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lol

muted patio
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Not screwed down

gleaming elk
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For it to work it doesnt need to be screwed down right? Its floating for test purposes

muted patio
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Um no

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Needs to be screwed down 100%

stoic island
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it needs to be screwed down

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the contacts aren't touching when it's floating

muted patio
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Well, found the boot issue

gleaming elk
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Yeah thanks for the help

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I appreatate ir

quasi hemlock
#

I'm trying to decide what cpu I should buy for my first build and since this is my first build I need assistance

mortal void
#

depends on budget but I'd say Ryzen 5 3600

quasi hemlock
#

Is there a big difference between 5 & 7?

mortal void
#

Ryzen 5 is like $200 USD and it's a solid CPU

#

pretty sure Ryzen 7 is more for handling workloads like rendering or stuff like that but don't quote me on that

upper cobalt
quasi hemlock
#

I see

mortal void
#

assuming you're gaming then Ryzen 5 3600 is very good

quasi hemlock
#

I have been looking at ryzen 7 3800 8 core but idk if that's too much to begin with

#

and yes, I am indeed a gamer

upper cobalt
#

do you do anything other than gaming?

mortal void
#

honestly I'd say for strictly gaming than get a 3600

quasi hemlock
#

school, eating, sleeping not too much else

upper cobalt
#

if your going for a 3800 it should last you a bit longer

#

my first cpu was a 3800x as well

quasi hemlock
#

So you suggest a ryzen 5 3600 but a ryzen 7 3800 would not be too much overkill

upper cobalt
#

it would be very overkill

#

but you wouldn’t have to upgrade it for a while

quasi hemlock
#

I think I understand

#

And does the motherboard need to meet any other requirements besides being compatible with my processor and ram?

wanton cliff
#

What are we talking about here?

quasi hemlock
#

me not understanding computers

wanton cliff
#

What’s the question

mortal void
#

honestly it's easy to learn

wanton cliff
#

Agreed

mortal void
#

I'm nowhere near a techie but I enjoy helping and know a little bit

wanton cliff
#

I’m probs on par with a few of the techies, I just haven’t been here as long

quasi hemlock
#

I don't really understand how I go about choosing a cpu, motherboard, or gpu

#

so the whole computer part

wanton cliff
#

Well a mobo just needs to be compatible with the other parts, pretty much (a moar expensive one tends to have more features)

#

GPU - depends on what you are trying to do and budget

#

CPU - same as GPU

quasi hemlock
#

well I intend on gaming mostly

wanton cliff
#

Budget?

mortal void
#

PCPartPicker will be your friend BTW

wanton cliff
#

Yeah

#

Automatically checks for incompatibilities and stuff

quasi hemlock
#

well, I already have the case and ram, and I already know what storage and power supply

wanton cliff
#

What psu are you thinking?

#

Oh hey I’ve seen your PFP posted on r/shitpostcrusaders

#

Not the point tho

quasi hemlock
#

true

#

cooler master 650W 80 plus bronze

wanton cliff
#

So a more mid-high range system then?

quasi hemlock
#

lower mid

wanton cliff
#

What’s your budget

quasi hemlock
#

I plan to upgrade

#

for the full build about 1200

#

for the parts I don't have yet about 7-800 tops

wanton cliff
#

Maybe a 5700XT and a R5 3600X

#

For your mobo maybe an X570 TUF

#

Just for future proofing

quasi hemlock
#

It's kinda hard to get into this at 15 but I am indeed trying

#

and that's what counts

wanton cliff
#

I got into it at 13

#

Christmas last year

quasi hemlock
#

well you did something right

wanton cliff
#

Alright imma set something up on PCPartPicker

#

What parts do you already have?

#

And/or have ordered

quasi hemlock
#

I have 16gb of ddr4 ram vengence pro

#

I know, that is overkill on ram

wanton cliff
#

Not really

quasi hemlock
#

a little

#

not much

wanton cliff
#

Not really at all

#

I’d say 16 gigs is the minimum for gaming in 2020

#

A year or two ago that number was a measly 8

quasi hemlock
#

well, happy I have the required amount at least

#

I have a cooler master case, do you need the actual case?

wanton cliff
#

Preferably

#

Yeah

#

Is it a TD500 or something?

mortal void
quasi hemlock
#

masterbox mb520 argb

muted patio
#

Ram for what?

mortal void
#

my build I want. R5 3600 and 5700XT

muted patio
#

Mmmm, stand by

mortal void
#

I just need something I can get local ie Mem Express

muted patio
#

3600 CL 16 then

#

No idea what they carry

mortal void
#

well preferably local. I'll look

muted patio
#

Mem express....

wanton cliff
muted patio
#

This kit is cheaper but no RGB

#

Not a lot else to choose from

cyan aspen
wanton cliff
#

@quasi hemlock

cyan aspen
wanton cliff
#

Operating system you can get for cheap/free

#

What do you mean by cooling system?

cyan aspen
#

a cpu cooler

wanton cliff
#

What cpu are you getting

cyan aspen
#

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

wanton cliff
#

You should be fine

cyan aspen
#

really?

muted patio
#

Comes with a cooler

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

Lol

#

Sup lili

hollow grail
#

hey babe

vagrant oak
#

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy a 3060 ti at any major retailers at this time?

hollow grail
#

no

wanton cliff
#

It is possible

hollow grail
#

if u wait

wanton cliff
#

Although you will need to pay attention

#

To the market

vagrant oak
#

How often do they restock?

hollow grail
#

every week or so

wanton cliff
#

More often than any other card

mortal void
charred bluff
#

240hz 1440p or 4k 144hz for a mix of competitive style games and cinematic games

vagrant oak
#

Okay thanks

wanton cliff
#

What GPU?

hollow grail
muted patio
#

Competitive games at 4K?

hollow grail
#

4k stupip

muted patio
#

No lol

charred bluff
#

Was looking at the AW7221D

wanton cliff
#

4K isn’t worth it yet

charred bluff
#

No I wouldn’t do competitive games at 4k

hollow grail
#

imo 4k never worth

charred bluff
#

I would do it at 1440p 144hz

wanton cliff
#

Not yet

charred bluff
#

And play cinematic games at 4k

hollow grail
#

ur just not that close to ur screen

charred bluff
#

Ok so 240hz 1440p?

hollow grail
#

i dont think ill ever want more than 1440p

charred bluff
#

aw2721d?

wanton cliff
#

And then 8k will be the new 4K

hollow grail
quasi hemlock
#

@wanton cliff Would I be able to use a seagate barracuda on the list you sent me?

hollow grail
wanton cliff
stoic island
#

@cyan aspen R5 3600 comes with a stock cooler that's enough for stock, and Win10 key can be bought on ebay for ~5$

wanton cliff
#

Hate Seagate

quasi hemlock
#

then what do you suggest

wanton cliff
#

WD Blue

charred bluff
quasi hemlock
#

ok

stoic island
#

@cyan aspen Next, the % increase in efficiency from Gold certification to Platinum cerfication is literally 1-2%

quasi hemlock
#

I'll look into it

hollow grail
stoic island
#

lol

cyan aspen
charred bluff
#

Is 240hz 1440p the move?

wanton cliff
#

Yes

charred bluff
#

Or 144hz 1440

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

Whichever one you are comfortable with getting

#

I would get 240hz if I had the budget

mortal void
#

should I go with regular see through glass since I have no RGB or keep tinted glass lmao

charred bluff
#

Why would you a titanium PSU? Not worth it unless you’re running a server 24/7

cyan aspen
#

titanium VS gold for $20 more

#

worth it?

charred bluff
#

Yes

#

But it’s more like $200

wanton cliff
#

Titanium if it’s only $20 more

#

But it usually isn’t

stoic island
#

iirc it's 20$ more for the 500w model

#

than the amp 750w

wanton cliff
#

Oh nvm then

#

750w gold > 500w titanium

cyan aspen
#

the computer runs at 370 tho?

wanton cliff
#

Also power can spike

cyan aspen
#

eventually

stoic island
#

Also, strider titanium is actually a lower tier in terms of quality than the amp

#

Strider titanium is B tier, Amp is A tier

quasi hemlock
#

What is the difference between the western digital red, blue, and green

wanton cliff
#

Idk honestly

#

All I know is people generally get blue

cyan aspen
wanton cliff
#

That tends to happen with techies lmao

muted patio
#

SHort answer, more bang for buck

wanton cliff
#

Long answer: I’m too lazy to say

muted patio
#

Lazy?

wanton cliff
#

Yeah

#

Too lazy to type all the differences

muted patio
#

Be my guest

stoic island
#

gimme a sec

#

I'll go down from the top

#

3600 is a better chip than the 3100

#

Aio is unnecessary on such a low end chip, stock cooler will be usable

wanton cliff
#

Lmao, an ML240L on a 3100

cyan aspen
stoic island
#

B550 elite ax over b450 tomahawk max because it's just better in like every quantifiable way, Better VRMs, better sound chip, 2x M.2 NVMe, B550 has PCIe 4.0 cpu lanes, B450 doesn't, and some more like IO

#

SSD Wise, NVMe SSD is nice to have for not that much more, it's 3000/2700 MB/s Read/Write against a SATA SSD's ~550/500 MB/s r/w

wanton cliff
#

Speaking of sound: difference between 3.5mm and USB sound?

stoic island
#

I jumped right from USB headset to a Fulla 3 sooo

#

Gimme a sec, lemme see how my onboard audio sounds

wanton cliff
upper cobalt
hollow grail
#

green got yeeted cause it was so bad

#

used to be like

wanton cliff
#

Oh lmao

hollow grail
#

bottom of barrel

upper cobalt
#

i saw some wd green ssds on amazon

hollow grail
#

which is why their bottom of the barrel ssds are green now

upper cobalt
#

70 bucks for a 1tb ssd

hollow grail
#

but no actual hdds

wanton cliff
#

Nah fam WD Black is where you go

#

For SSDs

hollow grail
#

theres also purple :))))

#

surveillance drives

#

seagate has cooler names tbh

upper cobalt
#

yeah purple black and gold

wanton cliff
#

My rich friend has a lot of purple drives

hollow grail
#

theyre stupid unless ur using them for surveillance

#

imo

wanton cliff
#

Which is what he does

hollow grail
#

just worse reds

wanton cliff
#

He is rich

hollow grail
#

nice

wanton cliff
#

Like I said

stoic island
#

damn

#

onboard is so quiet

#

compared do what I can do with a fulla, actual amp is real nice

wanton cliff
#

The friend in question owns a steel company, has a awesome surveillance system

hollow grail
#

purples still dumb unless business

#

ahhh nice

#

they make sense then

#

i used to selfhost security

cyan aspen
# stoic island damn

Do you think i could downgrade the video card some money and upgrade it later?

wanton cliff
#

What video card did he put?

cyan aspen
#

3060

hollow grail
#

gt 210

wanton cliff
#

Lmao

wanton cliff
stoic island
#

@cyan aspen The GPU should be the most expensive part in a gaming PC.

#

it is the primary contributing factor to your fps

cyan aspen
stoic island
#

I'd try your best at getting your hands on one

wanton cliff
#

It comes into stock more than any other card

#

Just stay vigilant

stoic island
#

no lili we're not getting them a 2000$ easystore drive

wanton cliff
#

Lili loves her storage lmao

#

Datawhore

hollow grail
#

storage more important than gpu

stoic island
#

dats not a nice word

hollow grail
#

owo

wanton cliff
#

Hey

#

She had datawhore in her name for like a month

stoic island
#

:P

hollow grail
#

tbf its accurate like 60% of my storage is nsfw

stoic island
#

how

#

what

hollow grail
#

i heard abt the PH thing like a week before it happened

#

scraped a bunch

stoic island
#

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh what

mortal void
#

@hollow grail nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

muted patio
#

lili is a naughty girl. And that's that

wanton cliff
#

I’ve heard of Graphics whores like me but not datawhores

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

Not until I met lili

hollow grail
#

and my name was dataHOARDER

mortal void
#

@hollow grail maybe you share? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

hollow grail
#

gonna rip NH next

mortal void
#

awe 😔

hollow grail
#

i already got all the mangas

#

now i need the doujins keeeek

stoic island
#

they're small tho

brittle ore
#

hey not sure if Im doing something wrong but I cant the EVGA SuperNOVA 1000w modular power supply seems like its too small for my coolermaster h500p?

quasi hemlock
#

should I make an account on pcpartpicker

stoic island
#

your choice

brittle ore
#

is that a thing that happens lol? first build so Im not sure

stoic island
#

@brittle ore it what now

brittle ore
#

hang on Ill show

hollow grail
stoic island
#

smh

#

@hollow grail just download modern warfare like 10 times and you'll have the same amount in games

wanton cliff
#

When your manga collection is larger than my total storage on my computer

#

And all the storage in my house

brittle ore
wanton cliff
#

EVGA power supply

brittle ore
#

Its not big enough to mount lol said it was compatible

muted patio
#

Should be a plate that came with the case for that

hollow grail
stoic island
#

yea

muted patio
#

Rectangle shaped plate

#

Like a frame

hollow grail
#

wow charli xcx SLAPS

stoic island
#

there's like a plate you mount the PSU onto, that mounts onto the case

hollow grail
#

actually groovin rn

wanton cliff
#

Tbf I have more solid state storage than I do on a hard drive. I’m a gamer, so yeah.

quasi hemlock
hollow grail
stoic island
#

where's the ssd

wanton cliff
quasi hemlock
#

aight

muted patio
#

All fine, incompatibilities are null and void

brittle ore
#

Abhh I see now thank yall

quasi hemlock
#

@wanton cliff thank you

hollow grail
#

I’m a gamer, so yeah.

still roostBOT
#
F*ck it, trans time#1223 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

wanton cliff
#

Oop

stoic island
#

...

wanton cliff
#

Lol

hollow grail
#

said the gamer word

wanton cliff
#

Nah the gamer word is f*g, as anyone on Xbox live for the 360 will tell you

#

A word I hate

hollow grail
#

i call my friends that all the time

cyan aspen
stoic island
#

3060ti can for sure

wanton cliff
#

My 5700XT can do any game except Half Life Alyx on an Index, and it’s a lot worse than a 3060Ti

#

Let me rephrase that actually

#

HL:A works sometimes, but gets unplayable in larger areas

#

No matter the graphics settings

cyan aspen
wanton cliff
#

3060 can do an Index or Reverb G2 well, and anything else amazingly

#

Those being high quality VR headsets

cyan aspen
glacial umbra
#

is it worth it to buy used cpus or should I just try and lean on the newer side

#

looking at used ryzen 3 3100s and a few other

wanton cliff
#

Why 3100? Also you can get CPUs used, usually an alright idea

glacial umbra
#

ah it's just a good budget cpu and it fits my budget really well

wanton cliff
#

Ah

glacial umbra
#

I'd spend the extra on the 3300x but it's not in stock and not available used

hollow grail
#

i want an index tbh

wanton cliff
#

It’s worth

glacial umbra
#

I'm considering just straight up waiting until the stock issues blow over but

#

that's probably gonna be awhile

wanton cliff
#

From Pavlov to Boneworks to HL:A to Beatsaber, it’s a fanominal headset

#

Great tracking too

#

And the controllers

#

Oh my

#

So nice

hollow grail
#

how about i come over and u gib

#

ezpz

wanton cliff
#

Lol no

#

If you have mons it is like a 4 week wait or something like that rn

#

For an Index Full VR kit

hollow grail
#

tfw no mons

#

spend it all on drives keeeek

#

i have so many vr games tho

wanton cliff
#

Why do you have a ton of VR games if you don’t have an HMD lol

hollow grail
#

friends

wanton cliff
#

Family sharing?

hollow grail
#

uh yeah lets go with that

wanton cliff
#

Do you have WiFi 6?

hollow grail
#

no need

#

anything i want to be high bandwidth is wired

wanton cliff
#

Yeah ik

hollow grail
#

right now my APs are wifi 5

#

but i can upgrade to 6 if i drop like $300

wanton cliff
#

WiFi 6 allows you to connect a Quest 2 to your PC without a link cable

hollow grail
#

just dont see the need tbh

wanton cliff
#

Which is like $300

hollow grail
#

yeah but thatd require me using a quest

#

all facebook is blocked at an ip level on my networks

#

when i leave house i connect to my vpn which does the same

wanton cliff
#

The US, German, and Belgian governments are all sueing Facebook for their Oculus shenanigans

hollow grail
#

us is like hey only we can spy like that

wanton cliff
#

Lol yep

hollow grail
#

oh its the pissy person

#

theyre back

little osprey
#

Don’t mind me just wachin

hollow grail
#

kk

wanton cliff
#

Only recommending the Quest 2 because it’s cheap

#

Otherwise I hate the fact that it is owned by Facebook

muted patio
#

Forcibly tied in to a Facebook account is honestly garbage

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

No?

hollow grail
#

makes index look like a good deal

hollow grail
wanton cliff
#

Of

hollow grail
#

every bit of sensor data

wanton cliff
#

Course

hollow grail
#

everything from cams

#

mics

little osprey
#

Jesus

hollow grail
#

everything

wanton cliff
#

Well time to throw my old quest away

hollow grail
#

literal fb spycam in ur house

little osprey
#

No longer watching, omfg

hollow grail
little osprey
#

I hate that

#

I’m just 14 and already hate that

#

How is that not illegal???

muted patio
#

Nest did that too, not sure if they still do or not

#

The doorbell cams

hollow grail
little osprey
#

Oop

hollow grail
little osprey
#

Was that?

muted patio
#

Ah, ring yeah

hollow grail
#

which is amazon

wanton cliff
muted patio
#

Nest is the thermostat lol

hollow grail
#

who also has the constant hotmics

little osprey
#

Ooo

muted patio
#

As does Alexa

hollow grail
#

i pay google to not spy on me

hollow grail
muted patio
#

I detest "smart homes" because of the device "privacy"

hollow grail
little osprey
#

Ooop

hollow grail
#

unifi cams and foss everything else

#

ez

muted patio
#

Or just don't. The only useful "smart" device I have is my garage door opener

#

Cuz that feeling when you leave about leaving it open....it's happened lol

#

Plus on motorcycles I can open and close from phone instead of carrying a separate opener

wanton cliff
#

Enthusiasts: my entire home is connected to the internet! I control everything with my voice!

People who actually work with tech: the newest thing I have is a printer from 2004, and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes any weird noises

muted patio
#

I mean, does your refrigerator really need a TV?

drifting garnet
#

does anyone know why this webiste keeps randomly popping on my screen?

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wanton cliff
#

Yeah how else am I supposed to play fortnite on it :POGGERS:

stoic island
#

@drifting garnet windows might be missing a language

drifting garnet
#

ok

wanton cliff
#

Ironic how we are talking about privacy and he comes out using Opera GX

stoic island
#

Like sometimes it wants english uk

#

Maybe

#

Or you didn't install the english US pack

drifting garnet
#

yeah i know there was a security breach

wanton cliff
#

No

#

Opera GX in general is bad for privacy

drifting garnet
#

ok, i guess i will switch back to firefox.

stoic island
#

@wanton cliff but but but it's a gaming browser

drifting garnet
verbal quarry
#

anyone have an idea on how well the rosewill aio cools a 3800x?

drifting garnet
#

i will re-download firefox when i get the chance.

muted patio
#

240mm?

verbal quarry
#

yea

#

rgb one if it matters

muted patio
#

I figured lol

hollow grail
#

ff is alr

muted patio
#

Most people get the AIO for the RGB

verbal quarry
#

it was a Christmas gift

hollow grail
#

iridium cuter

#

cause actual good render engine

verbal quarry
#

they said it "looked cool"

muted patio
#

Oh, well if it's a gift

#

It'll be fine. I highly recommend a top mount if you can

verbal quarry
#

im looking at a side mount for it

#

next to the mobo

muted patio
#

Can you fit the hoses at the bottom?

verbal quarry
#

yea

muted patio
#

Cool, it'll be fine then

#

Just make sure it has plenty of air flow

#

NZXT case?

verbal quarry
#

ha i wish

muted patio
#

no, you don't

#

THey have terrible air flow lol

verbal quarry
#

really?

muted patio
#

All looks no flow

#

yes

verbal quarry
#

buddy of mine has perfect airflow

hollow grail
#

h210 nice

muted patio
#

Mmmmm

#

doubt it's perfect

#

Anyway, side mount it hoses at the bottom is fine

verbal quarry
#

alright thank you

muted patio
#

No one gets the 210 lol. It's always the 510 :/

#

THey do OK if you remove the mesh filter in the front

verbal quarry
#

i got a rosewill prism case it was another gift

#

black and ofc rgb

muted patio
#

That'll be all right

#

All the RGB eh?

verbal quarry
#

personally i dont care for rgb but yea

#

they liked all the fancy colors lol

muted patio
#

Mmm, it's not bad if it's all a static color

#

But I'm with you

verbal quarry
#

i was thinking an orange

muted patio
#

Interesting, don't see too many of those

#

Post in Build Pics when it's done 🙂

verbal quarry
#

deal 🙂

#

itll be a few months tho :/

wanton cliff
#

I like RGB

verbal quarry
#

the main money i was getting didnt come through

wanton cliff
#

Especially if it’s addressable

verbal quarry
#

yea

muted patio
#

Awww

#

That's OK the component market is tough right now

verbal quarry
#

but ill tell you the build

#

its a rog strix b550-f with a 3700x or a 3800x

#

and a 3060ti or a 3070

#

which ever i get my hands on first

muted patio
#

You haven't bought the CPU yet?

verbal quarry
#

no im getting it in a bundle with the mobo

muted patio
#

Ah, kk

#

Was gonna say, if you can get a 5000 series it'd be worth it

#

I have the 3700x and it's plenty capable though

verbal quarry
#

"if"

wanton cliff
#

How much of a difference was there between the 2080s and 2080ti?

muted patio
#

15-20%

wanton cliff
#

Damn really?

muted patio
#

Depends on quite a few things but a fair bit

verbal quarry
#

yea i saw the 3800x with the b550-f bundle and its cheaper then getting the 3700x and the same mobo seperately

wanton cliff
#

Good deal

verbal quarry
#

yea

#

found it on amazon

muted patio
#

3800x is still good

verbal quarry
#

is it older or newer?

muted patio
#

Slightly older

wanton cliff
#

Slightly

muted patio
#

But still very capable

wanton cliff
#

Still a great cpu

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Yeah

muted patio
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IMO, nothing wrong with it

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It'll last quite a few years

verbal quarry
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weird since it costs more then the 3700x

wanton cliff
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It’s not that much better

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Slightly higher clocks I think