building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

no point in a pc if you're just gonna play on 1080p@60

if you're purely gaming anyways

and if u want to be a nerd buy a XIM and use mnk on console

[flint warren]

I'm good with a pc, I much prefer the feeling of a pc and I do more than just gaming

[glass elm]

idk how valid this is (as in if it's in stock) but the ryzen 5 3600 appears to be $10 more on pcpartpicker and much newer than the 1600

[verbal quarry]

thats a good point too

[glass elm]

also faster clock speed

[verbal quarry]

other then that you got a decent build

[flint warren]

Oh wow thank you for pointing that out! That's a pretty huge upgrade if I'm correct for hardly any more

[muted sluice]

Nvm here u go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LbtGht get the 1660 from nzxt refurbished

Pretty good 1080p gaming and above 60fps

And maybe some 1440p

[flint warren]

This says it's got some compatibility issues?

[muted sluice]

Nah b450 works with ryzen 3000

Not sure about this board but it should work

[flint warren]

Ah, also the 1660 you recommended looks great, amazing price, unfortunately seems to be out of stock

[vital warren]

would probably want to go i5 10400

[muted sluice]

Nah nzxt refurbishment

Its 200 over there

[kind fractal]

I swapped out the gpu on my problem and it still didn’t fix so maybe a mobo problem?

[flint warren]

Sorry I'm confused, where can I find this?

The 1660?

[muted sluice]

The nzxt site

On the refurbished area

Why the link get deleted

[glass elm]

nzxt is newegg competitor so they delete the links ig?

[muted patio]

Nope

[flint warren]

I'm on their site, do they sell graphics cards? I can't find them anywhere, looked up GTX 1660 nothing showed up

[glass elm]

all i get is this from mee6 so i got no clue

[muted sluice]

@flint warren here’s the intel one it should be a bit better and cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tVnDQD

[flint warren]

Oh, @muted sluice any chance you could pm me that link of the 1660?

[muted sluice]

Sure

[flint warren]

I can't seem to find it anywhere in search

All in stock 1660's seem to be quite expensive putting me over my budget, my budget is a little flexible, but do you think I could get away with a 1650?

[muted sluice]

Yea but it’s gonna be worse than a console

And just look a bit harder on there page u should see refurbished

[flint warren]

I don't want a console xD I prefer PC gaming and do more than just game

[muted sluice]

@flint warren

Btw that 2080 ti up there is dookie

[flint warren]

It's weird, idk if it's not available in Canada or what? I click their link to refurbished right on their home page and it just reloads the page

[muted sluice]

May be look the nzxt website on your end

[flint warren]

I don't know what you mean

[muted sluice]

Just look up nzxt and look for there website

[little osprey]

sneaking around trying to see if there’s a cheap list for my friend

[muted sluice]

Don’t steal that 1660

But I’ll help u with a list @little osprey

[little osprey]

Yeah I want my friend to play games with me but he doesn’t have anything at all so I was gonna help him a bit

He wants a whole set up for like 1000~

[muted sluice]

What’s the budget

So 700 or 800 pc

[little osprey]

So I’ve been making a few

Pc around 700~

[muted sluice]

Want me to make u one

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Yes please

I have made like 2

But I don’t know if they are decent

[muted sluice]

Can I see them

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zBjV2V

[muted sluice]

And what’s the currency?

[little osprey]

Here you go

Usd

[muted patio]

That power supply is oof

It says Seasonic but it's Tier D

[muted sluice]

It will do the job

[little osprey]

F

[glass elm]

cpu - ryzen 5 3600 is a bit newer and <$10 more expensive

[little osprey]

Well I mean I’m thinking about price inflation and stuff

[muted sluice]

Instead of a ryzen 5 I think the i5 9600k is better

[little osprey]

Idk much about those two specifically but I’m just trying to get him something decent since he’s just gaming on it

[muted sluice]

Imma give u the same list that the other guy had but different gpu

[muted patio]

Same price, better quality, https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cv-series-cv550-cp-9020210-na-550w/p/N82E16817139250

[little osprey]

K

[muted patio]

system doesn't need 650 watts, 45-500 at most

[muted sluice]

Yea I suppose so

[muted patio]

No, that power supply is oof

[little osprey]

Well I mean I’m gonna help him upgrade a few years later so he can keep up with the games

[muted sluice]

These builds aren’t upgrade proof

[muted patio]

If you want to risk ruining your PC components, go ahead and get it. I wouldn't trust anything with it

[little osprey]

You sound toxic

Haha

[stoic island]

CV 550 is less than decent

[muted patio]

This is build chat. I'm a Techie. I'm here to help people build stuff that will work and not have issues

No, the Seasonic S12III

[muted sluice]

If I show u the parts in my build I bet he’d could critique every part I chose

[muted patio]

Or whatever it is that's in the partpicker list

[little osprey]

Yeah

[muted patio]

I could probably get you better stuff for the same money, yes

That's what we do

[stoic island]

I'd personally group CV 550 and S12ii at the same place

CV 650 is decent

[muted patio]

1660 super build

only need 450 watts

[verbal quarry]

what tier is the seasonic Gm-650 gold

[muted patio]

Tier B

That's a good one

[verbal quarry]

sweet thank you

[stoic island]

Focus plus GM should be tier A

[muted patio]

GM is Tier B

[stoic island]

but normal GM is B

[muted patio]

Yes

I guess people don't want more bang for their buck, or maybe they do with a Tier D supply 😉

[granite delta]

@stoic island Would it be worth it to buy a gpu now or wait for prices to go back, or even if they go back

[muted patio]

Wait

[granite delta]

wanted to get a 1650 super but all prices went up

[verbal quarry]

i plan on getting a 3800x thats why im asking

[stoic island]

@muted patio Focus plus GM is also called GM-xxx

[muted patio]

Everything went up

[stoic island]

so

[muted patio]

I get that

But they didn't say Focus

[stoic island]

just another possibility

@granite delta wait if possible

[muted patio]

I get that

[stoic island]

everything stock and price wise are crap

[verbal quarry]

yea

[muted patio]

but people don't spend money on PSU's so....it's probably not the Focus gold lol

[granite delta]

hope it goes down by jan next year

[stoic island]

dunno man

[muted patio]

They'll spend $800 on a gpu and not more than $100 on a power supply

[verbal quarry]

i got insulted by a bunch of people who do lol

[stoic island]

Some people want to spend like 160$ on a RMx 650w

and then some want to spend 50$ on a w1

People are weird

[muted patio]

Yeah, you try and help them not burn their new parts down and you get told to "no one asked you"

🤷

[verbal quarry]

i mean at that point let them

[muted patio]

Yup

I won't let them try and tell someone else to though

[verbal quarry]

they cant blame you for their mistake

[muted sluice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jHyHz rate this builds psu

[stoic island]

I rate is 6/10

usable

[muted patio]

Tier C

There's a list pinned to this channel

[kind fractal]

My pc won’t post

[stoic island]

Passing grade, but don't expect more

yea

[muted patio]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[stoic island]

Tier D @muted patio

CV650 is tier C

[kind fractal]

Using an asus x570 tuf mobo with a ryzen 9 3900x

[stoic island]

CV anything less is tier D

[granite delta]

is b&h a trusted site?

[muted patio]

Absolutely

[granite delta]

alr cool

[kind fractal]

Can anyone help me?

[granite delta]

only ever ordered from amazon and newegg

[stoic island]

B&H Best Buy Amazon Newegg all major retailers

[granite delta]

alr

ty

[muted sluice]

Here’s the parts in my build I have except the 3080. Rate it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XVF268

Going to get a 3080 when they restock

[muted patio]

This AIO is cheaper and cools better

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-aio-360-d-rgb

has RGB too

[stoic island]

don't like aio or the ram

I second that for the aio choice

[muted patio]

Ye

[verbal quarry]

how good is the rosewill aio?

i saw the cost and was curious

[muted patio]

Ram is fine, Corsair is good. I'm a G Skill person myself

[errant zinc]

Honestly if you aren’t watercoolong with a radiator the size of a car radiator are you really water cooling?

[muted patio]

-_-

[muted sluice]

I just like rgb

[stoic island]

@muted patio I don't like it because it blocks top aio placement in some cases

like TD500 mesh

might be in 275r too

[muted sluice]

Are u talking about top mounting an aio?

[muted patio]

Yeah, it should be top mounted to keep the pump flooded

[muted sluice]

U really can’t do that in the 275r

[muted patio]

hoses might not be long enough for a front mount, hoses should be at the bottom, not the top

Depends on the case though

[muted sluice]

Well the aio front mounted is not gonna break it.

[muted patio]

It's not a matter of breaking

As the fluid evaporates, the pump will starve for water

[stoic island]

it's gonna underperform and make noises

and slowly damage the pump

[muted sluice]

It only makes noises if the aio was not filled enough

[muted patio]

Not true

Fluid evaporates over time, even in an AIO

[stoic island]

mhm

usually there's a tiny air gap, they won't overfill AIOs

[muted patio]

It'll be fine for a while but start to degrade cooling performance, just an FYI

Keep tabs on it

[muted sluice]

Well by the time that happens the pump might be broken plus there’s a warranty

[muted patio]

No, happens long before the pump goes out

more often, that's what kills the pump, actually

There are no moving parts in a pump

[stoic island]

warranty might cover it, dunno

[muted patio]

They're magnetically suspended with no touching parts

[stoic island]

but that's annoying (RMA process)

[muted patio]

No bearings

Pumps don't really go bad unless they go dry or lack of water

Not saying you can't do it, it just won't last as long

[muted sluice]

no, they do not run out of liquid.. there's still a certain amount of overtime evaporation which it's in fact more related to become somewhat "thick and dry" liquid but it take really a lot of years to achieve a point where it really matters.. this what I found on google. So I shouldn’t have to worry for a couple years

[muted patio]

LMAO! Yes, they do

BUt OK

Forget what you find on google

[muted sluice]

Yea it says they run out of liquid but it’s not going to become a problem in like 2 yrs

[muted patio]

Which is what we said

I saw that

[severe axle]

permeation?

[muted patio]

Nice edit

[muted sluice]

Well it was toms hardware

[muted patio]

-_-

[muted sluice]

And I edited bc I meant to say yrs not hrs

[muted patio]

Ok, you do you.

[muted sluice]

Ok

[errant zinc]

-_-

[verbal quarry]

how good is the Rosewill PB240-rgb aio

[kind fractal]

What if I install m.2 with pc on?

What would happen?

[muted patio]

Most likely bad things

Things shouldn't be hot plugged unless designed for it

if it's AMD, keep in mind the top slot is wired directly to the CPU, so you could potentially damage the processor as well.

[kind fractal]

I didn’t

But I restarted

Got it to finally boot off of usb then windows and install windows and now it’s showing a white light for my vga thing on the mobo

[muted patio]

What motherboard?

VGA means issue with graphics card

[runic plank]

Hello I have a question to anyone who would know, A friend of mine who is an audio engineer just bought a USB 3.0 external SSD Drive, now the question is would that cause bottlenecking with a Digital Audio Workstation like Studio One 4.0 ?

[muted patio]

depends on the speed of the SSD inside

[kind fractal]

Asus tuf x570

[muted patio]

Oh, I hve one of those

[kind fractal]

And it can’t be gpu I just swapped the 3070 for my 2070

[muted patio]

Yeah, the VGA light is a GPU issue

[kind fractal]

And I know both of them work?

[raw crane]

Can RGB/ ARGB hinder performance?

[muted patio]

Well, the light is on for that reason. Make sure it's seated properly and the power plugs are in all the way

no, RGB doesn't affect performance

The software used to control it might though

[raw crane]

Okay can you explain that a tiny bit

[frozen junco]

My build will finally take it’s finally form with the 3060ti that I am picking up on Sunday. Wish it was a 70 or 80 but I want it to be done before break

[mortal kraken]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FRAPPIE/saved/cDynt6

probably bad but look at it

[raw crane]

Cause I saw a build with ARGB fans and a comment said “this will give me 30fps for sure”

[muted patio]

PSU is a bit overkill for the system but it looks good

That's a mem @raw crane

*meme

It's like putting stickers on your car adds 5 HP per sticker

[frozen junco]

If the price goes down do with the lancool 2 mesh rgb instead it gets way better air flow

[raw crane]

Oohh okay

[frozen junco]

Or did you already buy it

[runic plank]

the read speed is 400 Megabytes Per Second

[raw crane]

I was worried adding aRGB parts were going to hinder the FPS or performance because I guess it takes more energy to put it rather than anything without RGB

[muted patio]

Nope

[mortal kraken]

@frozen junco i didnt already buy it, but im planning to slowly buy all the parts over a few months

[frozen junco]

He is right that the 850 is overkill but it is nice to have massive head room

[muted patio]

Read speed isn't important, it's the write speed that will hurt you

Because I assume you'll be recording to the SSD?

Other than the PSU being a bit too large, that build is just fine

Just leaves room for a 3080 upgrade down the road. 😉

[kind fractal]

It started to download windows on my m.2 and then when it restarted it threw the white light

@muted patio

[frozen junco]

I have a rm850 that was going to be the overkill for a 3080. I got a 3060ti this morning. But it was as cheap as a 650

[mortal kraken]

@frozen junco is this the case ur talking about

[frozen junco]

Yes

[muted patio]

850 isn't overkill for a 3080

Trust me

[frozen junco]

Make sure it is the mesh

[muted patio]

Power spikes will be that much or more

[frozen junco]

I know

I am paring with a 9700k

[muted patio]

@kind fractal I don't know what to tell you except it's an issue with your graphics card. Check the cable connections and reseat it in the slot

[frozen junco]

So it had about 500 watts

[mortal kraken]

wait this is a corsair one for 80$, and its an airflow edition

[patent cove]

guys for some reason by default my 5600x is set to 4.7ghz clock and even at load and idle it holds that clock but I haven’t overclocked at all. It idles at 30-36c and at load it can go up to 66c. Should I be worried and manually change the clock to something like 4.1ghz? Idk why it won’t go down to the base clock, is it something in bios?

[mortal kraken]

does the corsair 'airflow' edition case seem good

[kind fractal]

It seems when ever this pc turns off and then back on it give me a green light on boot but doesn’t go to bios?

@muted patio

[runic plank]

The SSD will be used solely for running Studio One 4

[frozen junco]

Spam delet

[kind fractal]

I do

[frozen junco]

The second it starts

Well the power button is pressed

[runic plank]

I'm assuming he will be recording to a seperate medium

[frozen junco]

And make sure the keyboard is plugged in

[muted patio]

For running the program it should be fine on USB 3.0, yes

[mortal kraken]

wait jared

thats a nice redragon keyboard

[kind fractal]

I don’t understand?

[frozen junco]

Yep I like it and it was only like 50 bucks

[muted patio]

Is the white VGA light on or the Green Boot Light?

[muted patio]

DEL key does nothing with a VGA light on

[kind fractal]

It turns my monitor on

[mortal kraken]

i have a 50$ redragon bundle
got some nice membrane keyboard and slim mouse with nice headphones

[kind fractal]

There is no vga light anymore

It has a green light on boot now

[muted patio]

Then try a different output port on the vid card

Different HDMI port

[mortal kraken]

anyways

[kind fractal]

The 3070 only has one

[frozen junco]

Then dp

[mortal kraken]

does a 80$ corsair airflow case seem better than what you saw jared

[muted patio]

Which model?

[kind fractal]

MSI

[muted patio]

Corsair 275r?

[frozen junco]

Well 70 bucks was 50 from Black Friday

[mortal kraken]

yeah vintage

[muted patio]

FOr $140, get the Phanteks 500A RGB

Or the non RGB for 100

[mortal kraken]

i dont need rgb too much

[frozen junco]

Lian li lancool 2 mesh performance

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854102?Description=phanteks 500a&cm_re=phanteks_500a-_-11-854-102-_-Product

Well, nevermind. Egg is out of stock. Try Amazon maybe. I must have bought the last one. Sorry.

[frozen junco]

https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-lancool-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-000Z-00063?&quicklink=true

2 140 fans in the frount

[mortal kraken]

its out of stock

[muted patio]

Try Amazon?

[frozen junco]

Let me try and find it somewhere

[stoic island]

TD500 mesh

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Crystalline-Controller-MCB-D500D-KGNN-S01/dp/B0839Y7933/

[mortal kraken]

that looks nice

[frozen junco]

Lian li is out of stock or high mark ups

That is out

[muted patio]

I really don't like that front lol

[frozen junco]

It is a bit ugly but it gives amazing airflow but no air filter

I like the rgb on the rgb version

[muted patio]

Mesh is air filter

[frozen junco]

Makes it look a lot better

I know but like not a fine Partical one

[muted patio]

Those restrict airflow

[frozen junco]

I know

Does come with a magnetic top filter

[raw crane]

Confusing? So that pc case isn’t good for airflow?

[frozen junco]

No the Lian li is really good for air flow

[stoic island]

I really like TD500 mesh

[frozen junco]

The top have a magnetic filter

[stoic island]

Solid front panel = bad airflow

mesh/vented = good

[frozen junco]

Yes

Either of them are good

[mortal kraken]

im getting mixed signals

[muted patio]

Some vented aren't good, depends on the vents

[mortal kraken]

is the td500 good or not

[stoic island]

Yea

TD500 mesh is good

[muted patio]

Yes

[stoic island]

the benchmarks tell us that

[muted patio]

Mesh is good

[raw crane]

Otau

[muted patio]

Fine particle Air filters = bad for airflow

[stoic island]

looks are personal preference tho

[muted patio]

Good for looks

[raw crane]

I just don’t like the glass panel

[frozen junco]

Pick which one you want / in stock

Why did I say which for voice to text and it came out a the b word like are you high Apple

The Lian li is glass on both sides btw

[mortal kraken]

i think ill do coolermaster

[twin oracle]

If I'm going to get a 5600x, am I good pairing it with a 3070? Here's the MOBO I'm pairing it with: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4

[muted patio]

Yes, should be fine

[twin oracle]

@muted patio thanks!

[worn crane]

Yes pretty much a 10900k with less cores and threads

[muted patio]

YW

[sage nexus]

That almost exactly what I’m doing @twin oracle

[twin oracle]

yeah, great performance for a great price

[sage nexus]

Yup

[rancid pasture]

Is it a problem that my cpu socket is 8 pins but my mother board only has 4?

Or is there a way I can do it cuz that’s the only thing stopping me from booting it up :/

[stoic island]

..?

Modern boards usually has EPS 8 pin

[rancid pasture]

I have a b450m

[stoic island]

for power

Yes

[rancid pasture]

It has 4

[stoic island]

B450s usually have 8+4

[rancid pasture]

Am I doing something wrong

It’s my first time building a pc haha

[stoic island]

EPS 8 pin is in the top right

[rancid pasture]

Can I send you pictures? I have no idea what I’m looking at

[stoic island]

8+4

sometimes just 8

but never just 4 on modern boards

[rancid pasture]

Mine is literally only 4 , give me a sec

[stoic island]

hm

[rancid pasture]

My power supply cable has 8

And it doesn’t fit

[stoic island]

should be 4+4

splits apart

[rancid pasture]

Damn :/

[stoic island]

didn't know any b450 boards were only 4 pin EPS

hell, one sec, I can take a pic of my extra eps 8 pin cable

if I can find it

[rancid pasture]

That’s not what I wanted to hear man sheesh

[glossy bay]

Give me the full name of the board

[glossy bay]

Including any version like gaming or -e

[stoic island]

@rancid pasture so your PSU cables are only 8 pin?

As in, solid block, doesn't split into 4+4?

[worn crane]

Can I get some advice on how to improve the way this build looks? Planning on changing out the ram, aio, and fans

Oh and getting white cable extensions

[stoic island]

Looks good to me

[glossy bay]

Looks fine

@rancid pasture what's the full name of the motherboard, like with all the prefixes and suffixes and everything

[rancid pasture]

I got it to work, I had to tug the center with a bit of pressure and it split into 4 @stoic island @glossy bay

Thanks so much

[stoic island]

fair

[rancid pasture]

So i tried turning it on and still no luck , can you help me with that? The Power Led +- Power Sw etc.. My manual doesn’t really help me with what goes where @stoic island

I have a pretty good guess it’s that because I tried winging it before hand

[glossy bay]

What motherboard

[rancid pasture]

B450m asrock I believe

[stoic island]

what mobo

B450m steel legend?

pro4?

[glossy bay]

What's the part after that b450m

[rancid pasture]

HDV R4.0

[stoic island]

rip

[rancid pasture]

I don’t like the sound of that

Haha

May I ask why?

[stoic island]

Page 31 of the manual

I mean, I should've expected it, it had a 4 pin power lel, it's not horrible, it's just the lowest end B450 board I know of

[rancid pasture]

Ahhh yeah, the plan was to have a really budgeted build for me haha

[glossy bay]

Honestly I also recommend just leave the hdled off

I know of no one that likes it

[stoic island]

can be annoying

also, why must a pinout diagram hurt me in this way :(

[glossy bay]

Oof

Btw how much power can a 4 pin cpu power even source

125?

[rancid pasture]

What does GND mean?

[glossy bay]

Ground

[stoic island]

I mean, it has 2/3 the 12v pins of pcie 8 pin

and pcie 8 pin is rated for like 150w

so 100w..?

[muted sluice]

3090 in stock

And the bots haven’t bot them all yet

[rancid pasture]

That one has 2 pins for me

Is that fine?

[glossy bay]

The power button should be between a ground and pwrbtn

[stoic island]

pretty sure it's supposed to be plugged into that and ground that's next to it

[rancid pasture]

It’s + then - next to that is power SW

[glossy bay]

The reset should be between reset and a gnd

[rancid pasture]

So is the 5th pin suppose to be visible if done correctly?

@stoic island @glossy bay

5th as in the furthest to the right

[glossy bay]

Yeah one ground will be visible

Usually the one below the open slot

[stiff patio]

Wanna call

[pseudo prawn]

hello

shoud i use amd in my bild or intel

[coarse current]

I JUST BUILT A PC CHECK PC PICS HOW DO I REDUCE THE RGB HELP

[muted sluice]

WHY DO THAT WHEN RGB INCREASES PERFORMANCE

[fleet pagoda]

🙂

Rma approved

[soft urchin]

Hey y’all I have a hard drive and an ssd, should I just switch out my hard drive with another ssd or should I just switch my ssd with a new one

I have a desktop btw

[mossy dawn]

Hmm. I have to save up before I build anything. But is going all out with full set of 128gb of ran over kill?

[soft urchin]

I would think so

[mossy dawn]

Awesome

[strange wadi]

Okay i did a little bit of research and found out that a Evga 750w psu and a Evga 1700w psu is good enough for a 3060-Ti/3070 question is

where is the sweet spot ?

I'm planning on upgrading from my Evga 450watt psu,

[soft urchin]

Oof be careful I somehow fried a 750 watt psu and I end up buying a 800 psu watt

[strange wadi]

Shoot really ? How did it happen ? ( Looks like i'll be buying a 800w psu as well or maybe a 950w [ If there are any like that ] welp )

[soft urchin]

I was upgrading my psu because I end up getting a new graphic cards (rx 5700 xt because it was the only one in stock) so I end up buying a 750 watt, set it all up and nothing turned on. I end up smelling something burning from the psu and end up buying a 800 watt. No idea how I fried a psu

[soft urchin]

Also I think it goes between 850w psu to 1000 w psu

[strange wadi]

Wait how long did you have the 750 psu ? Or what brand was it ? That's crazy, i'm sorry to hear about that

[soft urchin]

I bought it the same day I got my graphics card. It was a power spec 750 watt

And I end up getting a RM850x Corsair psu and it works like a charm

I don’t know if it was my fault that the 750w didn’t work or if powerspec had a faulty one

[strange wadi]

I read the reviews and yeah it's like rolling dices ( It either works or doesn't ),

[strange wadi]

You're on point about that, it's definitely the latter, if a psu starts burning or smelling and isn't turning on then it's on the companie's blame

[hollow grail]

depends how much space you want to have

hdd beats ssd for cheap storage density

ssd wins for access time

[soft urchin]

Does it matter if I have two ssds?

[hollow grail]

not at all

[soft urchin]

Because my ssd right now has all my windows stuff on it and my hard drive has my games

But like I’m dumb and I end up getting a 1tb hard drive and a I think 250gb ssd

[strange wadi]

That's what i did as well, and it's fine

[hollow grail]

thats alright to do

[soft urchin]

But I hear ssd is great for gaming

[hollow grail]

but

it is

for load times its much faster

id upgrade my boot drive to 512gb-1tb and up my hdd to 2-4tb

[strange wadi]

That is true, ssd's are great for loading up games yet pricey they are. Luckily i can trade that for more storage for 4tb at $90 sounds like a steal

240gb Kingston and 1tb & 4tb hdd for sfm and homework, i get to grab a cup of water and relax for a bit when the game loads up

[hollow grail]

kingston 🤮

and true

im always the first to vouch for hdd

hell i run more of them than like half this server combined

[soft urchin]

I’m thinking of getting a SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5, but I don’t know if I should replace my old ssd

Or just my hard drive

This reminds me of me building my budget pc and just kinda forgetting everything cause it was all a long time ago

[hollow grail]

@soft urchin dont get sata

unless ur parts are old

and u dont have a nvme slot

[soft urchin]

Old parts 😦

[hollow grail]

how old

[soft urchin]

Actually let me check

[soft urchin]

Z170-k

[hollow grail]

u can do nvme

[still roost]

Tomie#9994 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[soft urchin]

I mean holy moly

[soft urchin]

I’m big dumb dumb

[hollow grail]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820331309

this is an alright ssd

oopie

[soft urchin]

Thank you ❤️

[soft urchin]

I know this is gonna sound dumb

[hollow grail]

this is a more alright ssd

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820147743

for more monies

but better and will last much longer

[soft urchin]

But can I have two ssd and a hard drive

[hollow grail]

yes

[soft urchin]

Hot dog

[hollow grail]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822235011

for the big storage :)))

[soft urchin]

I think I'm good with my hard drive thank you though ❤️

[heavy marsh]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mm9MMv what do you guys think? is this good or should i change something

[hollow grail]

ssd could be better

and

razer keyboards are gross

same with their headsets

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/

:))

for keebs

and id go with a 970 evo for the ssd

[heavy marsh]

My budget is 1,500CAD

And it was the most "decent" keeb for its price. At least for me anyways

And im only getting the headset for mic quality

Audio from what my friend said is good enough

If you have a better recommendation then what would it be?

970 Evo bit too expensive btw

[blazing aurora]

some of your parts are expensive @heavy marsh

you can probably get a better cpu, gpu, and a different case for a better price

[dense jasper]

can someone see the list to see if it is ok https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ksLRwz

[muted patio]

That looks good, actually.

Power supply is a bit large for that build but leaves room for future upgrades 🙂

[dense jasper]

ok thakn you

i changed it fform last time when you checked it

[small osprey]

that does look good

[dense jasper]

ty

[rigid turtle]

is this build ok for csgo lan tournament?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nVfwmk

[muted patio]

wat

2000W PSU for $120??

[rigid turtle]

yes

[muted patio]

$6000 SSD's?

[rigid turtle]

but is the build ok?

[quasi snow]

maybe a bit more ram

but yeah

[muted patio]

DDR4 5100?

[rigid turtle]

64gb or 128 will do?

[rigid turtle]

man 10 players will be using it at the sme time

[hollow grail]

you trolling or planning to host using vms

[rigid turtle]

vms

[muted patio]

Ok, I get it now

Cuz I was like, WTF lol

[hollow grail]

youll need more gpus for that

[little osprey]

lol, he is just trolling

[quasi snow]

wait is this not a joke

[hollow grail]

no it 100% is

im just humoring them

[rigid turtle]

but isnt 2 rtx 3090s enough?

[little osprey]

no

[rigid turtle]

ok

[hollow grail]

unless u want to pay nvidia for licensing on their datacenter gpus

you need a gpu per user

[rigid turtle]

which motherboard has more than 2 pcie slots please tell

[hollow grail]

cant provision otherwise

youll need a server board

[rigid turtle]

oh ok

[rigid turtle]

ok

[hollow grail]

check out supermicro

[rigid turtle]

whats that?

[hollow grail]

and ideally more threads than what a consumer cpu can do

going with epyc wouldnt be the worst idea

but csgo likes high ipc

[rigid turtle]

alright

then will xeons or threadrippers be ok?

[hollow grail]

epyc is the way to go

[rigid turtle]

ok thank you

and which gpu shoud i go with?

[hollow grail]

if ur actually not trolling you can dm me if u need to buy an epyc cpu

and it depends

[rigid turtle]

ok

[hollow grail]

you just hosting the server or

actually running the game x amount of times at once

[rigid turtle]

ten players will play on the pc and it will be broadcasted and spectated

[hollow grail]

if u dont want to get shafted

id do 1 gpu per user

[cold jewel]

Uhh jeez

That's a lot of drives

You for sure don't need 7 TB SSDs

Even for multiple VMs that is overkill

[hollow grail]

depends if they need insane redundancy lol

its stupid tho

just buy datacenter drives from me

[cold jewel]

As mign as well build a full on server at that point

[hollow grail]

thats what i told them to do

[cold jewel]

Please don't buy those monitors for $4k each

That will kill me if you do that bahha

[hollow grail]

they said it was sponsored

[cold jewel]

Samsung directly sells them for $1.4k

Ah

He'll need a beefy switch as well.

In terms of Internet

[hollow grail]

eh depends

some unifi switch will b fine

he said he doesnt know anything abt hypervisors which is scarier to me lol

[cold jewel]

Oh

Yeah, he will need to understand those ahah

Or someone will atleast

[hollow grail]

i told them i can sell them an esxi key but they didnt want

good luck using pve

[cold jewel]

Lol

[hollow grail]

fr proxmox is so weird

[fossil halo]

wait yo

this is totally unrelated to building a pc

but like for the ikea linnmon and alex desk

which seems to be the fan favorite for gaming setups

how do you attach the linnmon tabletop to the alex drawers

bc according to ikea website its literally just some nubs that are supposed to stop it from sliding

which is kinda sus

[lavish ore]

So I managed to get a 3060ti and kinda unsure what I should do now

My current build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t4y4Bc

Should I
1)Sell GPU for $210, put in 3060ti
2)Sell entire system for $650, rebuild with 3060ti and newer parts

[fossil halo]

what is ur budget if u rebuild

[hollow grail]

sell whole system

that ssd is gross

[fossil halo]

^^

[hollow grail]

and the hdd is more gross

i dont even touch 1tb hdds anymore

[fossil halo]

or

dude

[lavish ore]

I have an 860 evo, I put that SSD in there for selling it

[fossil halo]

upgrade some of the parts only

oh

yea

upgrade ur mobo and cpu imo

[lavish ore]

I don’t like my case though either haha

[fossil halo]

tru

get something clean with good airflow

like that corsair thing

or i mean if u want to be with the cool kids get a lianli 011

looks good but it expenzive 110$ or smth

[lavish ore]

So you thinking sell for $650 and rebuild

[fossil halo]

wait

so

u have a 860 evo and that hdd?

[lavish ore]

No. I took the 860 out. I would use that in a new build or put it in my laptop.

[fossil halo]

oh bruh

then i think u should sell and rebuild

i can send a parts list

for 650

w/o gpu*

also which 3060ti did u get

[still roost]

Notag#7980 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil halo]

like which model

[lavish ore]

Whoops

I got an FE and MSI ventus 2x oc. I’ll probably sell the msi

[hollow grail]

id put the 860 in ur laptop

and just vibe with nvme

[fossil halo]

BRUh y u get mroe than what u need

at lease sell for msrp to like a friend

[lavish ore]

I have a friend looking to upgrade too

Yeah

I’m not scalping haha

[fossil halo]

lmao respect

securing the bread for the bois

but honestly

[hollow grail]

tbh im ok with adding $75 or so to msrp

[fossil halo]

cpu prices are stupid rn unless u want to build intel

[hollow grail]

its the people going nuts wht adding money on

[lavish ore]

My bad language post was asking if any other parts are as bad as gpus right now

[hollow grail]

cause im ok paying like 10% more to not have to hunt a gpu now

[fossil halo]

i think u should put the 3060 in ur current build and try and get a zen 3

[fossil halo]

yes

cpu

ryzen 7 3700x dropped to like 280 for thanksgiving and then shot back up to msrp

r5 3600 has been consistently like 300$ since like sptember kekw

so imo just wait for zen 3 to become widely available

most likely next year

try and secure a 5600x

@lavish ore

unless u want to go intel which is literally bruh

[lavish ore]

In that case I might just sell both my 3060tis and hope they become widely available then too haha

[fossil halo]

nono

dont do

u have a fe

keep that

and put it in ur current build

u have a decent build atm

i could suggest another case but i dont think u want to rebuild into another case for no reason

[lavish ore]

Yeah but if I wanna upgrade then those parts are not gonna be worth much next year

I struggled to get a $650 offer, probably won’t get above $500 for the whole build then

[fossil halo]

tru

wait

then ill make a 650 build minus gpu

with the r7 3700x i think its possible

notag do u need weifi

[lavish ore]

Would prefer it. I’m moving in a month or two so I might not

[fossil halo]

gotchu dw

do you need a fully modular psu?

[lavish ore]

Preferred but don’t really matter haha

[muted patio]

intel is the new budget/performance/price to performance cpu

[fossil halo]

frfr ^^

notag do u already have case fans

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9fJKsX

if yes

then that is the build

if no

lemme see

[muted patio]

I would keep current build, put in 3060TI and then get a 5600x when you can.

[fossil halo]

^^^

thats what i thought too

[muted patio]

mhmmm

[fossil halo]

but he says that parts price will fall

like his old parts

and wont be able to get a vry good deal

which isnt wrong

[muted patio]

I mean, mobo is fine

[fossil halo]

b450 uhh

[muted patio]

It's fine

[fossil halo]

tru

[lavish ore]

B450 compatible with 5600x?

[fossil halo]

select

[muted patio]

Ye

Ram speed a little slow maxed out but....eh

[fossil halo]

yea

OH WAIT I FORGOT TO ADD RAM IN THE BUILD LOL

[muted patio]

Not worth the extra moeny to change IMO

Seriously

Just put the 3060TI in and get a 5600x down the road

It'll be just dandy

[fossil halo]

yea

def

i got a 3700x when it was cheap but whatever lmao

this thanksgiving

[lavish ore]

Aight I think that’s what I’ll do then

[fossil halo]

and i got a gt710 so that i could wait for an ampere card

[lavish ore]

Sell my old gpu

[fossil halo]

so yea notag

or another option

is

[lavish ore]

Maybe look out for new cpu and sell mine

[fossil halo]

get a cheap cpu to fit the new board

and sell that later

[lavish ore]

But my case so ugly 😪

[fossil halo]

although u will bottleneck while gaming

it wont be for long LOL

yo or

rn ur running a b450 2600 right

[lavish ore]

Yeah b450 2600x clocked at 4.05

[muted patio]

Ehh, it'll be fine until they get a 5600x

[fossil halo]

so maybe

u could upgrade ur case and psu and ram

and wait for cpu and mobo upgrade

later when u can get a 5600x

idk if thats worth it tho

yea i think ur better off waiting

and even if u get only 500 from the old lpc

u still have 350 for the other 3060ti

[lavish ore]

$650 now > $500 later if I can live without my pc haha. I have a laptop that can hold me over

[fossil halo]

oh yea

LOL forgot about that

then yea sell the pc now

[potent prairie]

Ah, the care with which my ups person throws my packages in the snow behind a shed instead of at my mailbox 😡

[fossil halo]

LMAO imagine snow

lemme see when was the last time it snowed here

[hollow grail]

cali gang

wooo yea babey

i like ur door btw

[fossil halo]

1876

1976*

yes yes 1976 was the last time it snowed here

and it was 5 inches of snow LMFAO

idk if thats a lot

i have to drive like two hours to go see snow

[zealous edge]

lol

and here it snows like crazy

In Canada

lmao

[fossil halo]

LOL isnt canada like 2 degrees outside

[zealous edge]

its -10 c rn

[glossy bay]

That's 14f

[placid notch]

Any idea what these cables need to be connected to?

I really can’t figure it out lol the manual doesn’t help

[muted patio]

ARGB

In the top two

Bottom is probably fans

What is this exactly?

[placid notch]

These are connectors from the case

How or where do I connect them ?

[muted patio]

"From the case" Need more info on the bottom two

White and black connectors

Where do they come from?

[placid notch]

1 sec

Ok from the front fans

[muted patio]

What case pls so I can grab manual lol?

[placid notch]

Erm

1 sec let me grab the exact modeling

Model**

Masterbox MB311L ARGB

Either I’m really stupid or the manual of the case is kinda complicated

[muted patio]

Ok, so looks like the black one is for the fans

So SYS_FAN or CHAS_Fan header

In the bottom pic

The Top pic goes to The ARGB controller

And the ARGB controller goes to an ARGB header on the motherboard

[placid notch]

Like this I guess?

[muted patio]

Yes

[placid notch]

And the black one connects to the motherboard

But I can’t seem to find a 3 pin connector on it

There is a connector called RGB Header but it has 4 pins

Not sure if you can see that but it’s the white one in the bottom

The motherboard is an ASUS Prime Z490M-Plus

[muted patio]

Yeah, you probably don't' have the right header

I'm NOT an RGB expert lol

[still roost]

assassins#1305 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[muted patio]

@stoic island You know RGB stuff?

[placid notch]

Mb

I probably couldn’t connect it because it had a GIGABYTE sticker lol

And it’s a asus motherboard

[stoic island]

lemme check if the board has it

[placid notch]

So it’s only the white one left

[muted patio]

TY, I don't know RGB to save my butt except what the connectors look like

[placid notch]

This kinda looks stupid but right

There is a white and black cable coming from the front fans

But they connect with each other and seem to have fitting shapes

Does that make sense?

[muted patio]

Yes

Now

[stoic island]

Only see a single 12v rgb header, gonna check deeper into manual

[muted patio]

The other end of that white cable should go to the MB

And the black plug that goes into it goes to the fans right?

[placid notch]

The white one kinda loops to the black cable

And the black cable goes to the fans

[muted patio]

Should be like this

[placid notch]

These also all go to the fans

[muted patio]

Those are RGB

Not power

The connector you have is Fan Power

[placid notch]

Okay

So the ones with the sticker I leave alone

[muted patio]

Yes

[placid notch]

What about the white and black cable?

[stoic island]

@muted patio Yea I can't see an argb header on that board

[muted patio]

connect them like this picture

Ok, so they need to use the included ARGB controller then

[placid notch]

There is no SYS_FAN connector in the mobo

[muted patio]

CHAS_FAN

?

[placid notch]

Got it

CHA_FAN

[muted patio]

Ye

[placid notch]

It has 4 pins

But I have no connectors left from the case lol

[muted patio]

You onlny have 3

3 pin connector

Just plug it in so the clips line up

make sense?

[placid notch]

Yes but I have no cable left haha

Wait let me take a pic

[muted patio]

4th pin will be hanging in the breeze

[placid notch]

See what I mean?

All the cables coming from the fan are connected to each other

[muted patio]

wait whaaaa

[placid notch]

And there is no other cable free that I see

Hahahaha

[muted patio]

unplug that white cable

[placid notch]

Done

Now connect the white one to the mobo?

[muted patio]

Now, unplug the rest of the fans from the same connector

I think you borked something up there

[placid notch]

I think so too

Okay let me unplug all of them so they are in initial shape

[muted patio]

Yeah

I think I know what's going on but need to be sure

[placid notch]

So I have the 3 ends with 2 of them having a sticker

They all eventually go to the fans

[muted patio]

Those are RGB

We don't care about those

[placid notch]

Okay

[muted patio]

Plug those back in lol

[placid notch]

Done

[muted patio]

The white plug cables, do ALL the fans go into that black connector

?

All the fan wires go into the single black plug?

[placid notch]

I just took a video

Uploading rn

This might show it better

So the white end is some kind of extension of the black cable

[muted patio]

perfect

[placid notch]

And the black one goes through 2 ways back into the fans

[muted patio]

Forget about the white end, we don't care about that

[placid notch]

Okay

[muted patio]

Black end goes to MB CHA_FAN

[placid notch]

Only black end then

Ok

[muted patio]

Ye

[placid notch]

Perfect

There was a lineup for 3 pins as well

[muted patio]

Ye

Should be

[placid notch]

Okay thanks for that now i have those left haha

They were in a separate box from the mobo

Any idea what to do with them?

[muted patio]

Sata cables for hard drives

Save for when you add a drive

[placid notch]

Okay so these go to the side

Now 1 thing is left until it’s complete I think

The PSU

Which for some reason has 3000 different cables with it lol

[muted patio]

Pro Tip-always do PSU first cuz it's the most painful

[placid notch]

Yea I went by tutorial and it had the psu at the end

However I got spun up and ragequitted lmao

[muted patio]

Mmmmmm

[placid notch]

Now it’s psu time 🤥

So I have those that came in an extra box

And then these connectors from the PSU directly

And whatever the hell this is supposed to be it was flying around in the box lol

[muted patio]

Connected directly are: PCI-E power, CPU power and Motherboard power

[placid notch]

Okay Slow Motion

Hahah

[muted patio]

The rest are accessories

hard drives, etc

Separate cables

[placid notch]

Okay let me screw the psu in real quick

So the BG(number) ones can be set aside?

[muted patio]

No

You'll need those for drives and such

But do the hard connected ones first

And fill in as you need

[placid notch]

Okay

[gleaming lion]

what graphics card is this?

[placid notch]

So something seems fishy at screwing in

[gleaming lion]

i really cant tel

[placid notch]

Does this even remotely look correct?

Since 2 corner spots on the upper and lower left are not aligned correctly

[hollow grail]

yes

thats in case u flip it

oops

[placid notch]

Ah

[muted patio]

Yes

[placid notch]

So I don’t need all connected? Because it’s not 100% right right now

[muted patio]

Flip PSU

Make sure the PSU fan has an intake though

Most cases have an intake on the bottom for PSU fan but not all

[placid notch]

Yes it has one

But then I can’t flip it

This needs to be aligned with the intake no?

[muted patio]

Not necessarily

[placid notch]

What would be the best practice here?

[muted patio]

The way the PSU's screws in properly is the proper choice

[placid notch]

Okay flipped it’s better

Now all of the screws fit

Aight time to connect

[muted patio]

👍

[glacial umbra]

since the cpu is gonna be the last part I need, is it worth it to wait for the 3300x to come back to stock or should I just get the 3100

if it ever comes back into stock

[placid notch]

These are the last ones

Does it matter which ones I connect?

[zealous edge]

Vintage

[placid notch]

Manual says this

[zealous edge]

U know any file checking program??

[placid notch]

So I could just take one 6+2 and the 2x2 connector I guess?

[muted patio]

I would personally wait for the 3300x

[stoic island]

uh what

@placid notch EPS uses 4+4

[muted patio]

4+4 goes to CPU motherboard

6+2 goes to video card

[stoic island]

the pinout between EPS 8 pin and PCIe 8 pin is different

don't mix them

4+4 goes into motherboard, 6+2 goes into GPU

[placid notch]

Okay hold on

This one

[muted patio]

Motherboard CPU power

[stoic island]

Yea

[zealous edge]

Mobo power

cpu

[placid notch]

Goes here?