building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

You'll get there

[raw crane]

Thanks mr1111

[muted sluice]

well your progams and operating also use storgae

but its only using storage when its on

it goes in the ram bc it is going to hold that storage for a short period of time until its turned off

[raw crane]

English pls

So like

When something is starting up?

[stoic island]

Cpu goes brrr

[raw crane]

WHAT DOes that MEAN what

[still roost]

The Cooler Daniel#0093 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[stoic island]

Cpu runs fast

[muted sluice]

yo what the heck

[stoic island]

Cpu therefore wants fast storage

[raw crane]

Damn so many warns...

[stoic island]

Ram is fast storage

[muted sluice]

i spamed br and mee 6 got mad

[stoic island]

Lol

[raw crane]

Yup still don’t understand. My brain doesn’t go brrr

[stoic island]

Pc has high blood pressure

It goes brrt

[raw crane]

Yes put it into medical terms for me

[muted sluice]

so do u understand ram yet

[raw crane]

I’ll understand better

[stoic island]

God I'm gonna screw it up horribly but lemme try

[muted sluice]

mee6 go brrrr

[raw crane]

If you can compare ram to any functionality in the body I will be perfect

[sand falcon]

Ram is short term memory

[stoic island]

Yea

Don't remeber what part of the brain that was

[muted sluice]

short term memory remebering something u need at that instant

best way i can put it

[boreal quiver]

Ram is like thinking but you don't remember it unless you tell yourself to then it goes to memory

[raw crane]

Oh

Okay

[sand falcon]

Small and doesn't last long, but very fast

[raw crane]

That makes sense hehe

Brrrt

Thanks

[muted sluice]

i dont think he got it the right way

[stoic island]

Close nuff

[boreal quiver]

It's better than not understanding it at all

[raw crane]

Me?

[muted sluice]

yes u got it partly

[raw crane]

I am womon 💀💀

[stoic island]

We'll get there

[muted sluice]

that doesnt matter

[sand falcon]

Nobody here fully understands how a computer works

[raw crane]

You said “he” I’m just tryna tell you I’m a she

[stoic island]

Maybe Naed, that's it

[boreal quiver]

Not many people do

[sand falcon]

Nobody does

Anywhere

[boreal quiver]

I'm going a masters in computer science we'll see how close I can get

[stoic island]

Naed is omnipotent tho >:p

[boreal quiver]

There is always gonna be something we don't know

Thats the fun part though

[stoic island]

But yea Computers are complex as hell the further you look into it

[raw crane]

So what is this

[boreal quiver]

Storage

[sand falcon]

Older computer, yeah full understanding

[raw crane]

Oh okay

[stoic island]

That is a SSD, long term storage.

[boreal quiver]

Good storage

[muted sluice]

nead puts on front panels with pegs the wrong way

[stoic island]

Relatively fast long term storage

[boreal quiver]

That you should buy if u have the money

[raw crane]

Oh I see “solid state drive” stands for ssd. Didn’t notice at first

[muted sluice]

yea

[boreal quiver]

Mhm

[raw crane]

Thank you

[stoic island]

There's also HDDs, hard disk drives

[raw crane]

Oh

Right

That’s storage too?

[stoic island]

Relatively slow long term storage, but also cheaper for more

[muted sluice]

there cheaper for more storage but there slow and dont last as long

as nvme

[boreal quiver]

Ssd is newer hdd is older

[muted sluice]

or ssd

[raw crane]

Wait what

[nimble sinew]

cable management SUCKS

[boreal quiver]

Ssd is electronic hdd is mechanical

Ssd is storage held in electronic memory

[raw crane]

Brain don’t go brrr

[boreal quiver]

Hdd is files held in magnetic memory

[muted sluice]

go into the build pics and look at my cable management

[stoic island]

Ram - Short term memory
Ssd - Long term, but frequently accessed memory
Hdd - Long term memory

[raw crane]

Do I need both?

[boreal quiver]

Bad or good

[boreal quiver]

No but its nice to have both

[muted sluice]

u see it for yourself

[raw crane]

Okay

[boreal quiver]

Do I want to

[muted sluice]

no

[stoic island]

You just need any long term storage, for the basic understanding of PCs.

[raw crane]

Otay

Hey what’s FPS

Oh wait

Isn’t that

Frames per second

[muted sluice]

ypur joking right

[boreal quiver]

Same thing as refresh rate basically

[raw crane]

I am. New. To pc.

[muted sluice]

nah thats htz

[raw crane]

I’ve only ever played on Xbox and PS4

[boreal quiver]

But they go hand in hand

[stoic island]

@raw crane keep in mind some of the things will be more dependant on pricing, so might be skipped over while talking about the basics

[raw crane]

Never got technical with it

[muted sluice]

watch the verge jk jk

[stoic island]

Higher fps = smoother

[boreal quiver]

😭

[raw crane]

Can I add you and contact you about anything? Or is that too much

Oh okay better FPS

[stoic island]

Dm me whenever if you want, but I'm not always around

[raw crane]

Okay

[muted sluice]

just watch some yt tutorials

[boreal quiver]

I can help with some stuff

Mainly regarding software

[raw crane]

No, somethings I genuinely need to just talk to people about

[median latch]

Yo, anyone mind helping me with a parts list, trying to get as much feedback on it as i can and tweak it where needed before i start ordering parts

[stoic island]

Send da list

[muted sluice]

well watch the videos for the basics then come here for help if u dint understand it

[boreal quiver]

Yeag I should've sent mine before I ordered

Lmao

[median latch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MrCalvin1700/saved/ftBfvK

[boreal quiver]

Itll be fine

[raw crane]

And I’m not using this as a flex but I’ve said it before, I’m a med student and when I don’t understand something in the book I can’t just google it, it’s better to go to professions 😎👍🏼

[boreal quiver]

I mean you can Google it

You just won't learn as much

[muted sluice]

yea ik that my sister is a med student

[raw crane]

Yeah that’s why I came back for the ram

[raw crane]

Which I why I like talking to people directly

[raw crane]

Yeah so I bet she gets what I mean

[stoic island]

@median latch kind of a rollercoaster of a build

What's the use case?

[boreal quiver]

It definitely is

[muted sluice]

air flow cases all the way

[median latch]

Mostly gaming, my biggest concern is the the cpu will be much stronger than gpu, trying to get about optimal performance

[raw crane]

Can you explain how it’s a rollercoaster of a build? Do certain parts go with other certain parts? If you get what I mean

[boreal quiver]

Also why not wait for a 3000 card to drop instead of getting the gpu you want

[stoic island]

Yea I'd definitely go better on the GPU

[muted sluice]

go in to pcpartpicker withg parts u have to see if there compatiable if not

[stoic island]

Let's start at the top though

[muted sluice]

that should help u alot

[raw crane]

Oohhh

[boreal quiver]

That guy is also incredibly overpriced for its performance relative to its past gen

Gpu*

Predecessor * not gen

[stoic island]

5900x is quite overkill for just gaming

Anything else you trying to do with the pc?

[raw crane]

Thank you

[muted sluice]

@raw crane btw buying pc parts right now are kinda expensive

[raw crane]

When do they usually go down?

[muted sluice]

i reccomend 2nd hand for the gpus

[raw crane]

What

[stoic island]

@muted sluice tbh I'd get rtx 3000 cards still

[median latch]

Well i am planning to go to college in computer sciences, bht overall i wanna try to slap a rig together that'll stay within/above specs for quite a few years

[stoic island]

Used card for first build was a pita for me

[muted sluice]

well its more of the grahpics cards that are out of stock or overpriced. by next year prices shoud of gone down. but if u want to build now go 2nd hand

[raw crane]

By the summer will new stuff come out?

2nd hand?

[boreal quiver]

Maybe?

[raw crane]

My brain hurts I’m gonna go sleep

[boreal quiver]

I mean who knows what comes next tbh

[muted sluice]

well intel cpu s will probaly come out but noting else likely

[muted sluice]

night

[stoic island]

@raw crane parts usually launch around Q4 each year, like we saw with RTX 3000, RX6000, Ryzen 5000

[raw crane]

I heard the i9 is good

[boreal quiver]

Yeah

[muted sluice]

yeah

[raw crane]

Bruh wtf is RTX, TX, and Ryzen

[stoic island]

Again, "i9" doesn't tell you that much

[muted sluice]

not the i9 9900j tho

[boreal quiver]

All the new Gen stuff is pretty overkill but nice to have

[muted sluice]

k not j

[raw crane]

Why not the 9900k

[boreal quiver]

Calvin everything seems nice but the gpu

Tbh

[median latch]

And im hoping to mess with amds heavier and latest gpus later on

[nimble sinew]

Now this case is looking cleaner!

Woohoo!

[boreal quiver]

The gpu just feels out of place

[muted sluice]

the temps and the i7 10700k has the same performace for a lower price with better temps

[raw crane]

Dude

[stoic island]

@median latch well, as of right now, I'd actually do something like a 10700k+3070 instead of that 5900x+5700xt

[raw crane]

I would respond to that if I knew what you meant

Temps?

As in temperature

[boreal quiver]

Temperature

Yeah

[muted sluice]

yes

[raw crane]

So Wdym the temperature is good? Like it doesn’t overheat?

[boreal quiver]

Yes

[stoic island]

It'd make more sense for gaming, mainly because the Zen 3 8-core chip is priced horribly

[raw crane]

Oh

Bet

[stoic island]

And also, RTX 3000 brings a lot more features and performance to the table

[muted sluice]

well no it just has better temps by a sorta of a longshot

[stoic island]

Than 5700xt that is

[muted sluice]

no rtx tho

[median latch]

Im trying to stay within about the 1.6-1.7 price point, and i havent kept up with the newer specs for the latest hardware

[raw crane]

I no understand by “better temps.” Like in what way?

[stoic island]

Yea that'd actually being the price down

[boreal quiver]

The price difference between the 5600 and the 5700 are not worth it

[stoic island]

Like a 10700k is ~330usd for the chip

[muted sluice]

u can get a pretty high end system with that budget if parts ere in stock

[raw crane]

So many numbers

[stoic island]

That saves ~200$ on the CPU

RTX 3070 is ~500usd, just 100$ more than the 5700xt

[muted sluice]

its 320 right now

[boreal quiver]

I DIDNT EVEN NOTICS HIS CPU

[muted sluice]

on amazon

[boreal quiver]

WHAT THE

[raw crane]

Okay yeah I’m going to sleep I’ll see if I could do as much research as possible so I don’t have to make you guys feel like kindergarten teachers

[muted sluice]

?

[stoic island]

On mobile atm, too lazy to check specifics :p

[muted sluice]

lol its alright. we all start somewhere

[raw crane]

True, ty, and goodnight

[stoic island]

Next, since I'm suggesting a cpu change to Intel, I'll get you a mobo suggestion, but first things first, do you need wifi or will you use Ethernet?

[median latch]

I plan to eventually run ethernet, but at the moment probably wifi

[muted sluice]

woah there buddy now that is not a good balance of the parts

[stoic island]

Let's do this board+10700k to start off the changes then
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MVRgXL/asus-tuf-gaming-z490-plus-wi-fi-atx-lga1200-motherboard-tuf-gaming-z490-plus-wi-fi

[muted sluice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4bmRwz

nah this a lil better

oh nvm

[stoic island]

Damn 10850k prices came down

[muted sluice]

we picked the same mobo

[stoic island]

Just 400$ now

[boreal quiver]

I didn't even buy a board with built in wifi

[muted sluice]

thats a steal tbh

[stoic island]

There's more things I'd change in that

[muted sluice]

well i just picked a good board

[median latch]

Ok

[muted sluice]

ram?

or the cooler

[stoic island]

Gotta check psu gimme a sec

[muted sluice]

oh

[viscid glade]

500GB ssd? Are you not gonna b playing any games ? 💀

[muted sluice]

that psu aint enough

[boreal quiver]

Actually nvm mine has wifi card

I forgot which board I bought for a minute lmao

[stoic island]

Psu might be decent

[boreal quiver]

My psu Is 500w lmao

[stoic island]

Anyways I might just edit that list myself

I'll be back in like 5 min

Mobile will take a bit

[median latch]

If you would that'd be awesome

[boreal quiver]

Are you gonna buy an hdd with it

500 might get you a few games

And you could score a 2tb hdd for like 50

[median latch]

I got a few hdd

[boreal quiver]

Ah

[median latch]

About 7tb worth

[viscid glade]

Y'all puttin 30 series cards like anyones gonna see any before February 🤕

[boreal quiver]

Lmaooo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8nVJwz

Mine is pretty cheap

[muted sluice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dgVZXb here u go @median latch

[boreal quiver]

Tbh

Some of the stuff on their is wrong and there isn't a card listed

Because the card isn't even on their site

[boreal quiver]

WHERE IS HE GONNA GE TTHAT CARD

Unless he is robbing somebody 😭

[muted sluice]

somewhere

[boreal quiver]

Then that's 600 dollars off the list

Discount👍

[muted sluice]

cost 200$ do do that

[boreal quiver]

400 off

[muted sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-mask-rob-gif-7322605

[viscid glade]

japan

[median latch]

Dont tempt me lmao, gotta get back at those scalpers

[arctic nebula]

Does anyone one know who won ltt giveaway

[boreal quiver]

My build is just a small Christmas gift tbh

[muted sluice]

rate cable management

[boreal quiver]

10

[stoic island]

@MrCalvin1700#6664 might be a bit over budget, I can cut it down as needed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WHbRT

[boreal quiver]

I'd pay you to let me fix it

[viscid glade]

well u gotta show tha front

[stoic island]

Also, it's annoying asf looking for PSUs so uh

[viscid glade]

ur SSD gettin CHOKED 🤭

[stoic island]

Might be better options

@median latch test

What's wrong with my pings ...

[muted sluice]

id chage that cooler but everything else is pretty good

[median latch]

Whats up

[boreal quiver]

Yeah If he wants like anything cosmetic that cooler is gonna crush if

It*

[stoic island]

@boreal quiver performance is what matters in the end smh

Oh that reminds me

[boreal quiver]

True but still

[muted sluice]

he leave

[stoic island]

Td500 mesh could be changed our for cheaper if needed

[muted sluice]

nvm

[stoic island]

Here's the list, it wouldn't ping you correctly the first time around lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8WHbRT @MrCalvin1700#6664

[boreal quiver]

I don't even know what graphics card i ordered

[median latch]

Dang i love both of them Xd

[median latch]

Its looking baller

[muted sluice]

i was gonna say u messed up the link

[stoic island]

Change the case out for a MX410 mesh to save ~30$

As needed

[muted sluice]

boi that psu aint enough

[stoic island]

Excuse me?

[muted sluice]

a 650w

[stoic island]

Yes

For a 550w tdp system

[muted sluice]

it has an i9

[boreal quiver]

I always wonder if the compatibility things are true completely

[muted sluice]

it will probaly use more then that

[boreal quiver]

Cause if so he can't use an ssd and hdd at the same time

[stoic island]

Pcpp takes TDPs for you

[boreal quiver]

And he said he will be

[stoic island]

TDP wise everything added together is 550w

[median latch]

So i got a question, on an old rig i got a 1070, ik with nvidia your supposed to be able to run tandem gpus, would it work between the 3080 and 1070?

[muted sluice]

ik but the i9 and a 3080 are power hungy components

[stoic island]

And..?

[boreal quiver]

It's not gonna drain much more than that

[stoic island]

CX is a capable unit

[muted sluice]

they need more then a 650w psu

[stoic island]

It'll do 10% overload without an issue

[little osprey]

any recommendations for this build? need assistance on the motherboard...
the motherboard in this list doesnt have headers for the case usb ports
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQXdGq

[boreal quiver]

It won't reach above 650

[muted sluice]

but there will be no more oc

[stoic island]

@muted sluice all the TDPs added together is 550w

The PSU is rated for 650w

[muted sluice]

but the oc

[stoic island]

W a t

Who's OCing here

[boreal quiver]

Then change the case?

[raw crane]

Wait I’m not asleep yet

[muted sluice]

everybody with a k chip

[boreal quiver]

Maybe there is a similar case with the right headers

[raw crane]

What’s the difference between mechanical and membrane keyboards

[stoic island]

...

[muted sluice]

mechanical are better end of story

[raw crane]

Okay bye

Thanks

[boreal quiver]

If you don't want to change the case then you'd need to find an older board

Or one that dosent use 3.2

[little osprey]

no, id rather change the motherboard, the case is awesome

[boreal quiver]

Newer board*

Yeah you need a newer board I read it backwards

Hm lemme see

[little osprey]

i could go with the x570 taichi and not have any header problems but its 120$ more

[stoic island]

Whee don't have testing on 10850k

Oh well

[boreal quiver]

Jesus christ

[stoic island]

@median latch are you planning on a heavy all core OC?

[muted sluice]

well i9 10850k goes brrrr without enough power

[median latch]

I do plan to oc

[muted sluice]

850w

[median latch]

Tho i don't have much experience in that so

[little osprey]

exactly

[muted sluice]

a couple yt guides should help u

or one

[boreal quiver]

Well damn

[stoic island]

Alright

[stoic island]

Just checked

[boreal quiver]

First result for 3.2 board

[stoic island]

10900k stock pulls ~200w max

[boreal quiver]

I mean if your going for a specific look?

[stoic island]

10850k as a lower bin is gonna pull less

[boreal quiver]

Then I can try and find a similar looking build @little osprey

[stoic island]

So that's not gonna eat through your power

[boreal quiver]

Board*

[muted sluice]

nah lower bin cant get higher oc and comsumes more power

[stoic island]

W a t

I'm talking about stock frequency behavior

I'm talking about stock frequency behavior

Not about pumping voltage for clocks

Wifi should stop acting up

:p

[muted sluice]

thats how it works with lower bin chips

[stoic island]

Lower bin means it needs more voltage, therefore more power, to attain the same clocks

But with stock behavior

It ain't pumping like 1.4v into the chip

[muted sluice]

but i just said that

[stoic island]

It'll go similar to the 10900k in voltage

[muted sluice]

imma make a pcpp

[stoic island]

@muted sluice I'm trying to say what I'm saying is different from what you're saying

Stock power draw is different from OC power draw

I'm talking stock behavior

Not OC behavior

[median latch]

So with overclockin, will the psu still be sufficent?

[stoic island]

Debatable

Could spend more for higher wattage PSU

But OCing really isn't that great at the end of the day

If you're sure you want to OC, get a 750w unit

[median latch]

How about if it some point in the future i wantes to get another gpu, to run 2 of em

[stoic island]

Bad idea

And that's gonna make you spend like double the money on a PSU

@median latch Multi GPU is dying in terms of compatibility with software and the hardware supporting it

Like how RTX 3060ti/3070/3080 don't support SLI any more

[boreal quiver]

Which is odd? You think if they researched it more and made the prices lower and improved quality people would buy it?

[stoic island]

And games for example, very very few support sli

[boreal quiver]

The market for it would grow and it would eventually become a new standard

[stoic island]

@boreal quiver wdym

[boreal quiver]

It's like sli came in, and died almost immediately

[median latch]

Ah ok

[stoic island]

Sli is pretty old

[boreal quiver]

You never really heard much of it

[stoic island]

Like

Decade old

[boreal quiver]

Yeah but still, it never got the attention or improvements it could have gotten

[muted sluice]

@median latch https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CG7n9N 50$ overbudget

[stoic island]

It's probably just a pita for both the hardware manufacturer and Software developers to support it

[boreal quiver]

Thats true as well.

[stoic island]

Ima just get off for the night

[muted sluice]

night

[boreal quiver]

Does that board come with wifi

[muted sluice]

no

[boreal quiver]

If not he'll need to spend more money on a network card

[muted sluice]

a good one with wifi 6 will only cost abput 40$

[stoic island]

@MrCalvin1700#6664 this'll be my submission if you really wanted to oc or smth, gonna go to sleep now, too tired.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FtcV2V

[boreal quiver]

Unless he wants to run ethernet

[muted sluice]

no not that psu

[stoic island]

What

[muted sluice]

seasonic

for that 0db fan

and cool cables

[boreal quiver]

Or if you have an older laptop or something or pc you can pull a network card out of it @median latch

[stoic island]

@muted sluice you know revolution d.f. is better than that single rail seasonic unit right

D.f. is multi rail

[muted sluice]

i didnt know that

[stoic island]

For 850w you're gonna want multi rail

I'm 98% sure px is single rail

[median latch]

So is there possible issues that may arise for having too much wattage on a psu than your system requires?

[stoic island]

Nah

[boreal quiver]

Not enough power?

[stoic island]

But for 850w single rail units OCP become too loose

[muted sluice]

the system will only draw the power that it needs

[stoic island]

It'd be just another G3

Welp, y'all should remeber to get some sleep too.

[muted sluice]

no caffeine keeps me awake

[boreal quiver]

Lol

[little osprey]

comes withen my budget, but lower price is better...
just looking for a good motherboard that has : Wifi, support for this cases USB ports
taichi fits the build but is overpriced
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPtHqp

[muted sluice]

U can buy internal usb 2.0 hub I think

[little osprey]

case has a USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C

[muted sluice]

U don’t have to plug in all the usbs for the pc to work

[boreal quiver]

Your only issue is that the type c dosent work

Are you planning to run vr or charge a Samsung USB to usbc?

Or have any system running usbc to USBc

If not then dw

It's only the usbc port

[little osprey]

yes
i have samsung devices, and thinking about using VR

[muted sluice]

Tbh the only thing Ik of that uses type c is a 4K camera

[boreal quiver]

Vr chargers and cables

New Samsung phones

And some charging stations do as well

My current phone is usbc to usbc

But you could just buy a dongle too man

USB to usbc

No point in switching the motherboard

[little osprey]

well the thing is, i dont have any of the motherboards listed

[boreal quiver]

Could just get this and plug it in

And it'll do the same thing as usbc

And you won't need a new motherboard

I don't recommend that one exactly but you get the idea

[little osprey]

thing is im building from scratch and dont have a motherboard yet, so if i could find a motherboard that has it, wouldnt be no different

[boreal quiver]

True

[little osprey]

im not replacing one i own, just looking for options for my plan to buy

i could go for the taichi and have all the headers, but its a bit pricey (299$), looking for cheaper options that still have the usb C header

[runic cove]

im currently using a beatup zalman case,, im deciding between a cm td500 and a fd meshify C

[little osprey]

both have good airflow, meshify C has a bit better build quality
there are gamer nexus reviews on them both of them, its what i go by on case decisions

[runic cove]

thank u for lé reply <3/p

[muted sluice]

So i was scrolling on tiktok right. Every video I now see on there is a giveaway video on gpu s and so far I have entered into 5 gpu giveaways on tiktok

[jagged ember]

Tiktok giveaways lol

[fading kiln]

YO

IT'S HERE

!!!!!!!!

[muted sluice]

I’m going to get a 3080 anyway possible that’s legal @jagged ember

[muted sluice]

||https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ||

Click on it I dare u

[jagged ember]

Wonder what it is

Someone find out

[muted sluice]

Click it @jagged ember

I dare u

[fading kiln]

tbh, i like the song

[jagged ember]

So it's a song

[muted sluice]

Yes

Grinning aggressively right now

[little osprey]

So I have a question

Would the Ryzen 5 2600 and Rtx 2060 be a good setup? or would the 2600 bottle neck it

[muted sluice]

Probably wouldn’t bottle neck it

Just turn on pbo I think it’s called

Everytime I go to the oc chat all I hear now is pbo

[jagged ember]

pbo is not overclocking though

it's precision boost overdrive

it just calculates the optimal time to boost your cpu to max based on parameters you set

but to answer your question, a 2600 and a 2060 will be just fine

although, you'd be better off with a 3060ti

any 2000 series is likely forever high priced due to no new stock

[blazing aurora]

how's this build? i heard that my mobo will limit my ram speed but idk

[muted sluice]

Pretty good budget build I suppose

[narrow rose]

that board is kind of strange

@blazing aurora https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088PCN95D?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 I like this board better for the price

also you got the right memory 3000 is the way to go with a 2933 limited board

[blazing aurora]

gotcha, good to know

[narrow rose]

yeah and its all up to you the board you chose has 2 m.2 slots instead of 2 more ram slots so whatever you need/prefer

[blazing aurora]

oh okay

everything else is good though?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x4F3NP anything i should change?

[bleak rune]

nah, looks pretty good

[blazing aurora]

nice build

[quasi snow]

The mobo only supports 2933 memory

[broken umbra]

Damn I really have to buy a janky adapter for my mobo

It only has the 4 pin 12v fan header

Asus, you absolute baffoons

[muted patio]

What else do you need for fans?

[broken umbra]

??

I mean it's very hard to find 4 pin case fans lol

[muted patio]

SO use 3

3 pins fit in 4 pin slots

[broken umbra]

Does PWM control still work?

[muted patio]

No. 4 pin = PWM

[broken umbra]

Ah

[muted patio]

It's not an Asus thing

It's an industry standard thing

PWM requires 4 pins.

1 for +, one for -, one for RPM feedback, one for PWM

[broken umbra]

Ah gotcha, thank you

Good thing I'm getting white LED fans and not RGB

40$ a fan

[muted patio]

wowza

[olive bolt]

I need some help putting together a very fast external drive with 50tb capacity can anyone help?

[hollow grail]

how fast

[muted patio]

That's gonna be an Ethernet NAS yeah?

[hollow grail]

ideally

110mb/s fine?

[olive bolt]

as fast as possible using a windows setup not apple

faster dealing with 4k video editing off it

[hollow grail]

budget?

[olive bolt]

under 2k

[hollow grail]

for 50tb?

ur at over 1k just for the drives

[olive bolt]

yes 50 TB maybe a little less I have this motherboard - https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119171?Item=N82E16813119171

[muted patio]

WOn't need that

Need a NAS box

[hollow grail]

yeah id go with something from synology

[muted patio]

How many drives will that take lili?

6?

4?

[hollow grail]

id say 5 14tb drives

[muted patio]

mmmm

[hollow grail]

4 for the array and 1 for parity

if we're gonna be risky abt it

but at that budget cant have multi parity

so 1200 for the drives

leaves 800 for the nas

[muted patio]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1598524-REG/synology_diskstation_ds1621_6_bay_nas.html

?

[olive bolt]

what does the multi parity provide?

[hollow grail]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1584539-REG/synology_diskstation_ds1520_5_bay_nas.html

i like the one you sent

actually

i was trying to save 100 but

[muted patio]

lol

I think that's a first

[hollow grail]

thats a good nas for sure

[muted patio]

XD

[hollow grail]

shut uppppp i like what u have to say

[hollow grail]

redundancy if one of the drives commits not live

[olive bolt]

ok I like that setup. what drives do I stick in that beast?

[hollow grail]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-14tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6425303.p?skuId=6425303

these bad boys

if ur ok with shucking

[brittle vine]

hello? ppl of the Earth

[hollow grail]

no

@olive bolt so 5 of those and the nas

[muted patio]

PFP doesn't look old enough to Discord. Sus.

[hollow grail]

should put u around 2000

plus a nvme cache drive

id get a corsair ssd for that

[olive bolt]

@hollow grail can you put links to everything, i dont want to get the wrong stuff and be stuck

[hollow grail]

the nas:https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1598524-REG/synology_diskstation_ds1621_6_bay_nas.html

the drives (x5) https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-easystore-14tb-external-usb-3-0-hard-drive-black/6425303.p?skuId=6425303

the cache: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084ZWC796

and ur golden

also if u dont have ethernet cables some of these wont hurt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007NZGPAY/

[jagged ember]

Ethernet good for a nas

[muted patio]

Ethernet ONLY way to NAS

[jagged ember]

Kek true

Imagine wifi nas

[boreal quiver]

If you have fiber it's not bad

[olive bolt]

Thank you! @hollow grail and @muted patio

[muted patio]

👍

[olive bolt]

does the "nvme cache drive id get a corsair ssd" go inside the nas also? and is that east to setup to make sure it is the cache drive @hollow grail

[hollow grail]

yes

and also

[hollow grail]

what does that have to do with it lol

nas run on LAN

but @olive bolt ill always be here if u need help setting it up :)))))))

[frozen junco]

I finished my build not that long ago. I want to check temps how does msi afterburner work and does it work if you are not using msi parts

?

[muted patio]

Yes

[jagged ember]

You don't use it

[muted patio]

Works for all the things

[jagged ember]

You use hwinfo64

[muted patio]

Not for GPU

[jagged ember]

Really?

[muted patio]

Ye

[jagged ember]

I use hwinfo for all temps

[muted patio]

MSI Afterburner is SOOOOOO nice

You can OC with it too

[frozen junco]

I know I am still trying to get the 3k series I just want to stress test my cpu and want to make sure temps are not off

[muted patio]

I uase Ryzen master for CPU and MSI Afterburner for GPU

Oh

For CPU, use HWINFO

[jagged ember]

Found precision x1 gave better oc than msi afterburner using the auto one

[frozen junco]

ok

[muted patio]

MSI Is GPU only

[frozen junco]

ohh ok

[jagged ember]

Cpu is hwinfo yeah

[muted patio]

Precision is garbo IMO

But if it works for you go for it

[jagged ember]

Idk, gave me an actual mem boost

[muted patio]

I'm +400 mem with MSI

[jagged ember]

Huh, different experiences lol

[muted patio]

Yup

Use what works

[jagged ember]

Apparently I had power as limiting factor for msi

[brittle ore]

hey yall,,,, what are the thoughts on the MSI GeForce RTX 3090 VENTUS 3X OC 24GB GDDR6X compared to the other 3090's.. will it do the job? having trouble finding a good article

[muted patio]

It'll be fine

[jagged ember]

Ventus tho

Aren't they famous for tiny coolers

[frozen junco]

https://www.hwinfo.com/ is this the right place

[hasty bobcat]

Ventus...ew

[brittle ore]

sweett; honestly not sure.. finalizing my build that was one of the last pieces I needed to figure out

lmao very different answers

[hasty bobcat]

had two ventus 2060 die on me

[still roost]

MANAMIZ#1317 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hasty bobcat]

lmao

get an evga

[brittle ore]

haha well damn

[hasty bobcat]

XC3 if you just want a 3090

FTW3 if you like to OC

ASUS TUF is great too

[hollow grail]

evga only for gpu

[hasty bobcat]

Their STRIX are overpriced but if you want your e-peen to grow...

[hollow grail]

msi sucks ass

[jagged ember]

Ventus just has dinky cooler in my experience

[brittle ore]

yeah I was looking at EVGA initially

[hasty bobcat]

good

[frozen junco]

3090s are geting pretty easy to get

[hasty bobcat]

EVGA is bae

[frozen junco]

they stay in stock for a few min

[hollow grail]

imagine buying 3090 NOT to grow epeen

[hasty bobcat]

^

[brittle ore]

the FTW3 ultra, not sure if the versions have huge differences

didnt seem like it

[hasty bobcat]

thats a great one

[hollow grail]

evga is cute

i kiss them on the lips

[little osprey]

you can't go wrong with evga on nvidia
and you can't go wrong with sapphire aswell on amd side

[hollow grail]

u go wrong by buying an amd card

[little osprey]

if it's used

it might be worth

[hoary cloak]

best gpu for 3600xt?

[muted patio]

3070/3080

[frosty crystal]

Best gpu for 2600x

[muted patio]

3060TI at most

[frosty crystal]

Yep thought so. Thanks

[olive bolt]

They only allow one drive per customer :/ do you recommend another vendor?

[hollow grail]

huh

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1550572-REG/wd_wdbwlg0140hbk_nesn_14tb_elements_desktop_usb.html

theres this

since ur getting the nas from them too lol

i hate them so much but theyre the only ppl who sell synology stuff at good prices lol

[olive bolt]

do you have a link from the same place for that SSD you recommended for precache?

[hollow grail]

nope

thats amazon

just grab from them

[olive bolt]

This is what I got just to confirm with you

[hollow grail]

correct

whew thats gonna be a FUN build

dm me when it all gets here and ill walk you through setting it up and all

you will need to know how to shuck drives by the way

id advise a pry tool

https://www.amazon.com/iFixit-Jimmy-Electronics-Opening-Tool/dp/B00NCFIVH4

one of these

just gotta take the drives out of their enclosures

we're buying the external drives because they cost $260 for the same exact drive that is listed here at uhhhh

https://www.newegg.com/red-wd140effx-14tb/p/N82E16822234402

$430

[olive bolt]

So we got a better deal from the ones you sent! Also what size should I get on the crosshair

[hollow grail]

960gb is fine

do you anticipate ingesting more than 1tb of footage at once regularly?

basically what itll do

is when you write to the nas, it sends the data to the ssd

then the ssd can trickle the data to the hard drives while you arent doing any more writes

[trim heron]

Can someone send me one of their PC build lists? I need it for my final project in A+ certification

[olive bolt]

I think 960gb should work fine I dont forsee more than 1 tb at a time

[hollow grail]

do it yourself @trim heron

[trim heron]

Ugh ig

[hollow grail]

then 960gb is perfect :))

@trim heron its your final

[olive bolt]

does style matter?

[stoic island]

MP510 is fun

MP600 is a completely different drive

[trim heron]

Yea it’s easy asf. Just takes forever.

[hollow grail]

you just want the mp510

yeah 1111

i tell ppl to get it for nas builds lol

[stoic island]

I'm still having weird low write issues tho

[hollow grail]

cause the rated tbw is insane

yeah what was going on there

still didnt get a heatsink?

[fossil grove]

Yo I'm terrible with computers. I need to get a new screen, ram, and touchpad. How easy is it to fix?

[stoic island]

for a laptop?

[fossil grove]

Yep

[stoic island]

@hollow grail yea because with full fans it was ~40c still during cdm, and still only 1000MB/s write

[hollow grail]

depends on the laptop

but generally not easy

[hollow grail]

huh odd

well lucky for all the ppl putting it in nas builds

1000mb/s write is still 10gig lol

and most nas will have heatsinks

[stoic island]

ya

[hollow grail]

i agree tho thats weird

i still think u should get a heatsink

but thats just me

[raw crane]

Please be happy. I know what ram does

I could cry

Rn

I KNOW WHAT IT FULLY DOES

[muted patio]

@dire snow Montechs case?

[dire snow]

yeah

[muted patio]

Nice! How was it to build in?

I'd like to recommend it to people but I wasn't sure about it

Seems good for $50

[dire snow]

little tight for cable management

but its nice for a micro atx i wouldnt reccomend for normal atx build

[muted patio]

Ahhhh, that's good to know

TY

[dire snow]

sure

[muted patio]

3060TI?

5600x?

[dire snow]

2080

and 3700x

[muted patio]

Poggers

Nice build!

[dire snow]

thanks!

[mossy plaza]

AYYYY I GOT THE RAM AND THE STORAGE

I just had to re buy it since somethin went wrong

my mom checked her card and there was no purchase

[verbal quarry]

Would a Rog b550-f be better then the tuf b550-plus

[muted patio]

NOt really

[verbal quarry]

Whats the difference?

[muted patio]

It looks nicer but that's about it

[verbal quarry]

Ah ok so style points

[muted patio]

And the sound chip

That's about it

Owait no

They both have the same S1220A

So style

[verbal quarry]

Ok thank you

[muted patio]

YW

FWIW, I have the TUF X570 and it's fantastic

Same as the B550, different chipset

Super happy with it

[little osprey]

What the difference between optical and normal switches

[muted patio]

?

Where is that spec?

[verbal quarry]

https://newegg.io/a4450693

This is the build so far

Doing the best buy 3060ti

[muted patio]

3600 CL 16 ram

Pls

It makes a difference

[verbal quarry]

Any recommended ram then?

[little osprey]

Why rose will stuff

[muted patio]

WOrking on it, stand by

[verbal quarry]

Built it around the aio my mom accidentally bought for me

I like to keep things the same

[muted patio]

I mean, the AIO will fit into any case

[hollow grail]

rosewill is fine

i like their cases

their psus are uh

theyre ok i guess

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906?Description=3600 CL16 ram&cm_re=3600_CL16 ram-_-20-232-906-_-Product

That's as close to the OG price as I can get with RGB ram

[verbal quarry]

I plan on changing the psu after I read some reviews

[muted patio]

Plus if you upgrad to Ryzen 5000 down the road it'll be poggers there too

[verbal quarry]

Sweet thank you vintage

[muted patio]

YW

Otherwise fine.

[verbal quarry]

Sweet

I might go back to the tuf b550 to help on cost

[muted patio]

That Rosewell is a Tier C PSU so it's not bad

[zealous edge]

Corsair Rmx is like the best on the market rn

[verbal quarry]

Whats a good psu in that price range?

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650m-650w/p/N82E16817139148?Description=650W Power supply&cm_re=650W_Power supply-_-17-139-148-_-Product

Wait

this one instead

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650-650w/p/N82E16817139200?Description=650W Power supply&cm_re=650W_Power supply-_-17-139-200-_-Product

CX650

Tier B

Less money

[tender peak]

Might be a bit of overkill but try using https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/ and double the video card amount and ram you want to put in unless you plan to use dual cards. Provides a good cushion to knowing a good ballpark figure without having to be super math oriented. I agree, Corsair makes a nice psu

[muted patio]

650W is just right for that build

With some overhead

[verbal quarry]

Whats the quality of seasonic

[urban trellis]

good

[muted patio]

Depends on the model

but generally good

[urban trellis]

yea but seasonic is moslty good

[muted patio]

The CX650 I posted is B Tier

[urban trellis]

yea lol

[muted patio]

and less than the Rosewill you ahd

Unless you want RGB or something

[verbal quarry]

I'm looking at a gm-650

No I dont want rgb on my psu

[muted patio]

That's $5 more than the Corsair

[urban trellis]

The RGB on a psu is basically useless

[muted patio]

Same Tier B

SO either

[hollow grail]

bomb psus be like: just throw a cheap 120mm rgb fan in there

[verbal quarry]

Lol

Thank you guys again for the help

[muted patio]

YW

[orchid talon]

anyone have a good AMD Streaming/gaming build saved on pc part picker for $1100-$1400? (i know very little so i need help to know i'm getting something good)

[urban trellis]

@orchid talon USD?

[orchid talon]

yeah

[urban trellis]

ok

@orchid talon https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wkZDQD

Add $800 to price cuz no price for 3070 and 5600x available

[muted patio]

mmm

[urban trellis]

ops

[muted patio]

TUF X570 WiFi, save $50

[urban trellis]

i made a mistake

ok

[muted patio]

NO 220T CASE

That's gross

sorry

P500A or Lian Li

[urban trellis]

lol

[muted patio]

no really, they're sucky

to build in

[urban trellis]

how bout u make it lol

[muted patio]

No

[urban trellis]

ok

[muted patio]

Just make a couple changes and save it.

Use it later and have an awesome build to help ppl with

[urban trellis]

ok

[muted patio]

well

hmm

Ok, brb

[urban trellis]

k

check now

[muted patio]

$1100

[urban trellis]

@orchid talon I made it now but its 1500 dollars

?

[orchid talon]

i think ima need to get a cheaper case and psu

[urban trellis]

ok

[muted patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XgWCZZ

Should be $1400 with CPU

[urban trellis]

Wtf is that 3070 lol

oh did u put it in for pricing?

[muted patio]

Yes

Only for price

[urban trellis]

ok

[hollow grail]

i hate the spot sabrent is in rn

[muted patio]

512GB for sure

1 TB is in a good spot

[hollow grail]

exact same price as a 970 evo

[muted patio]

EIther is a good choice

Could be better though

[hollow grail]

yeah but

man i remember when they were much cheaper

[muted patio]

Sabrent?

last year was still $129

[hollow grail]

but the 970 used to be in the 180-200 range

samsung changed, sabrent didnt

[muted patio]

Sabrent was priced right from the start

Samsung was overpriced

[hollow grail]

yep

but then samsung brought it down

and sabrent's product is worse for the same

[muted patio]

I can shave more out of that build

stand by

[hollow grail]

oh im not talking abt the build

i just miss sabrent being this crazy value

[orchid talon]

what are the $60ish 70ish cases not good?

[hollow grail]

?

theres some great stuff out there for $60-70

[orchid talon]

otherwise it looks good thank you

[muted patio]

Changing a couple things, stand by

[hollow grail]

@muted patio i have a massive crush on that one phanteks case

lemme find

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3qgzK8/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-x-glass-black-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-es518xtg_dbk

ghis

this

[muted patio]

spendy

but nice

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwWCZZ

$1380 with processor

[hollow grail]

the front profile is just

hnggg

[orchid talon]

why not 1 TB of NVME and like no regular storage if i run out i buy more in the future or delete games my internet is 350ish mbps

[verbal quarry]

hey im back with another question

[muted patio]

You can do that too

No problem

[verbal quarry]

should i stay with the ryzen 7 3700x or should i got the 2700x

[hollow grail]

you can do that but games fill up space fast

[muted patio]

Done

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kCHKsX

[hollow grail]

id say spinning rust is always nice to have as well as flash

[muted patio]

Didn't really save you though

Oops

[verbal quarry]

oh wait nvm i dont think i can get the mobo i have now if i changed it

[muted patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMzRwz

[quick shore]

whats up fellas back at it again with my time bomb of a pc

I noticed something interesting

so it does fine when idle

but when I booted up steam it would just crash

same for discord, but that was only once

havent rma'd yet since for me there isnt a point to atm, I'm just going to be patient for any 5600 stock

I might also just replace my psu along the way as well when I cop a 5600

[muted patio]

why

What's wrong with the current one?

[hollow grail]

inb4 tt

[quick shore]

my psu or the cpu?

[muted patio]

PSU

I know your CPU is borked

[quick shore]

It’s a Corsair vs550

and I’ve heard the vs series isn’t all that too good

[hollow grail]

dang

[muted patio]

Why upgrade if it works?

[hollow grail]

was betting it was a thermaltake pos lmao

[quick shore]

I’m still thinking bout it

[muted patio]

It's fine if you aren't pushing it

with a 3070 or something

[quick shore]

I do plan to get a 3070 in the future 👁👁

[hollow grail]

be quiet makes some excellent units if you do upgrade

[muted patio]

Then upgarde your PSU

[hollow grail]

also vintage the only cpu ive used for the past 4 days is a i7 7y75

speed

[quick shore]

would 650w be good

[hollow grail]

should be adequate

[quick shore]

That’s the amount I’ve been hovering over

[muted patio]

For a 3070?

yes

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650-650w/p/N82E16817139200?Description=650w power supply&cm_re=650w_power supply-_-17-139-200-_-Product

[quick shore]

Man this be quiet straight power be looking mad fine

same with that cx650 ✨

also are there any word in when 5600 stock is coming

or are they still non existent

[muted patio]

Cross fingers

Press F5

Get lucky

[quick shore]

I already got that livestream going on 😤

well time to fulfill my gaming needs with this Taco Bell series X

[hollow grail]

be quiet is my fave psu brand

imo theyre all a tier because ive never heard of one failing on anyone

[small osprey]

What about seasonic

[muted patio]

MOstly good

SOme poopy models

[hollow grail]

only experience ive had with seasonic was them blowing up a test bench of mine on one of their highest end units

do not recommend

[small osprey]

Hm

[hollow grail]

theyre fine

[small osprey]

Everyone seems to like them idk

[little osprey]

diablotek is my favorite psu brand
their PSUs are a explosion of quality

[hollow grail]

but they arent god tier like everyone likes to say

@little osprey i love diablotek

[muted patio]

Their S12II EVO is Tier C

Not the best

[hollow grail]

dont they put racing flames on their psus

[muted patio]

No?

All of these are Tier C Seasonic | G GP / SSR-GP / SSP-GT - M12II (EVO) x50W - S12D Silver - S12 Energy Plus - SS-HT <=650W / =>750W

[quick shore]

what about ares game

I saw them bad bois on amazon

[muted patio]

Never heard of em

[quick shore]

and I have no clue where they came from

they just appeared

[small osprey]

Is enermax good

[hollow grail]

lol i think they did

[muted patio]

Enermax is ok

[hollow grail]

talking abt diablotek

[quick shore]

spicy

[little osprey]

that photo quality tho

[hollow grail]

doesnt that just make u want to throw it into ur system

[small osprey]

That looks sus imo

[muted patio]

I wanna blow that up

And every other one i see

[grand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZ4hvf Opinions?

[muted patio]

AIo is way overkill

240mm is fine

Unless you want the look

[grand atlas]

Yeah I think I want the look. 360mm of fans top and bottom