building-and-recc-chat

[steep wedge]

ok ima say AMD then

[fast dust]

I really hope you haven’t built that yet

[waxen swallow]

bought the trident z neo 32gb 3200mhz running a msi b450 tomahawk mobo and a ryzen 7 2700 cpu....i enabled xmp pro 1 which stated 2933mhz pro 2 states 3200mhz.....cant get the full 3200mhz but runs stable and "perfect" for the 2933mhz....tip tricks solutions????

[fast dust]

Cause you can get much much better for the price

[mossy plaza]

well I'm trying to find that rn...

[steep wedge]

you get more cores for less price with AMD

[fast dust]

AMD overpriced rn

[steep wedge]

so that would be better for CAD and stuff

yeah

[fast dust]

10100 is the play

[steep wedge]

but thats just now

[abstract quest]

Ok that’s what I thought, for the price point, but people said intel comet lake chips that are coming out are going to be faster

[steep wedge]

idk about those

so rip

[analog pulsar]

You can go into bios and Adjust the numbers yourself to make it run that

[mossy plaza]

so far I havent found anything better then this

[abstract quest]

And would be a possible upgrading opp in the future

[analog pulsar]

Wait it doesn’t run stable on 3200

[steep wedge]

ye

[abstract quest]

Ok if I get amd’s latest chips how do I deal with the bios if I don’t have an older chip for the motherboard?

[steep wedge]

most likely

[waxen swallow]

@analog pulsar really not used to bios

[steep wedge]

AMD might send over a cpu

for u to update bios with

[analog pulsar]

Okay I can talk you through it

[fast dust]

3 immediate things for you @mossy plaza

1. Don’t buy the super expensive windows keys. Biggest waste of money ever.
2. 650w is so so so overkill. That system you have now would use like... 300w. Downgrade to a 450 or 550w.
3. RX 550 is trash. At that point you’re basically overpaying for Vega 11 integrated graphics.

[abstract quest]

Oh sweeet nice thank you I think I have made my decision

[fast dust]

I suggest getting a used RX 570 or something of the sort

[steep wedge]

np @abstract quest

[mossy plaza]

hmm ok

[analog pulsar]

@waxen swallow can you go into your bios

[mossy plaza]

I'm still tweaking it a bit

[analog pulsar]

@waxen swallow also the website says the mobo supports memory up to 3466 OCed so yours should work

[fast dust]

Oh and definitely pay the extra $20 for 16gb ram. 8gb ram as a whole is ehhhh and the 8gb kit you have is really slow cause it’s CL19 @mossy plaza

[wheat coral]

Sleep

[analog pulsar]

@wheat coral get out of build chat and back to #general-chat

[mossy plaza]

hmmm ok

[analog pulsar]

@waxen swallow tell me when you are in bios

[mossy plaza]

anyone know a good cheap gpu?

[analog pulsar]

How cheap

I found a $88 one on amazon

[mossy plaza]

the most I can go is around 100 bucks

[analog pulsar]

Okay brb

[mossy plaza]

my friends mom wants to keep the budget at 450 - 500 bucks

he plays ps4 mostly so he doesn't understand how to build a pc so im helping him rn

[small osprey]

If ur building a $500 pc then the gpu should be around $175 of that

[mossy plaza]

hm

[waxen swallow]

@errant niche i can go in it in a few sec

[mossy plaza]

yea but I'm also trying to get him a monitor

since he doesn't have one

[analog pulsar]

The GPUs I see under $100 is 710 and 1030

[small osprey]

Gpu should be most expensive at around 30-40% of the budget

[analog pulsar]

Okay

[mossy plaza]

I was thinking of getting him this monitor

https://www.newegg.com/dell-p190s-19-sxga/p/0JC-0004-00618

its the cheapest one on new egg

that will actually work for him

[small osprey]

Whaa

What is that resolution

[mossy plaza]

lol

[small osprey]

Find him a 1080p one around $100 that he can use for a long time

[mossy plaza]

hm ok

but the only thing is that I dont have a good motherboard or gpu for him yet

[small osprey]

And then u have $400 for pc

[waxen swallow]

@analog pulsar I'm in

[small osprey]

What cpu

[mossy plaza]

hm

[small osprey]

What cpu

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qtqBD3/intel-core-i3-10100-36-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8070110100

this

[analog pulsar]

Okay there should be a memory place to go too

Can I see the bios

[small osprey]

Hmm

[waxen swallow]

System status,advanced,overclocking m flash security boot

[small osprey]

Maybe go last gen

[errant niche]

reee

[mossy plaza]

?

[mossy plaza]

what gpu tho..

[analog pulsar]

Looking for memory

[small osprey]

Last gen i3 + b460 mobo? + used 1060 or smthn

[waxen swallow]

I went to oc and found xmp

[analog pulsar]

Okay go under OC

Memory-Z

Wait

[mossy plaza]

hmm ok

I'll look around

thanks

tho

[analog pulsar]

Yea for some reason your ram is downgraded

One second

Go to profile

Dram setting

Is there another profile

[mossy plaza]

I might end up scrapping the build and checking out some others if it doesnt work tbh

[waxen swallow]

Only ones I see for.profile is xmp pro1 and 2

[analog pulsar]

Try pro 1 and 2 and see if you get the numbers 3200

[waxen swallow]

On pro2 I do

[analog pulsar]

Yea profile 2 should give you the ram speed

Your all set exit and save and boot up pc

[waxen swallow]

Saved and rebooting

[analog pulsar]

Open task manager to see the speeds

[waxen swallow]

Blue screen

[analog pulsar]

[exotic marten]

Corrupt windows?

[analog pulsar]

Get in bios now

[exotic marten]

Ram seated proper? Cpu?

GPU?

[analog pulsar]

It is seated proper

We just OCed the ram

[waxen swallow]

Having to reboot

[analog pulsar]

Bc the ram is supposed to be 3200 ram

[exotic marten]

Is the ram factory 3200 or 2933?

[waxen swallow]

Back in bios

I bought 3200mhz

[analog pulsar]

Before OC it was 2933

[exotic marten]

So try one stick instead of two to see what happens

Right before XMP

[waxen swallow]

No control in bios mouse or arrows not responding

[exotic marten]

Is this a new build?

[waxen swallow]

Nahh

New upgrade

Just ram only

[exotic marten]

Just ram?

Ohh

Yeah try one stick

You don't have both sticks next to each other do you?

[waxen swallow]

Nope

Furthest away from cpu with empty dimm between

CPU empty filled empty filled

[exotic marten]

What cpu

[waxen swallow]

Ryzen 7 2700

[exotic marten]

Does it boot on 2933m

[waxen swallow]

Yeppers

[exotic marten]

It's the XMP profile then

XMP is wacky to begin wirh

[waxen swallow]

Pro1 reads 2933 pro2 reads 3200

So run pro1 and lose mhz?

[exotic marten]

There really isn't a difference in those speeds anyways. Everyone assumes faster ram makes a difference but it's usually only when you go a huge jump not 300mhz

Does the cpu even support 3200?

[waxen swallow]

I didnt see anything that it wouldn't

I used partpicker to rebuild what I have with the upgrade I wanted and ran a compatibility check best I could

[exotic marten]

Go on amd's website and look at specs. 2933 rings a bell with ryzen 2nd gen

[waxen swallow]

Back on pro1 now

Booting....

Booting.....

Booting....lol

Booted

[mossy plaza]

is this a good build?

[rich helm]

If you only have like 500dollars

[languid adder]

Bro I bought a 3600x 2060 super and im getting hella fps drops

[mossy plaza]

yea

[mossy plaza]

rip

[severe axle]

@mossy plaza case is bad

[rich helm]

@mossy plaza it’s ok the motherboard is a bit expensive for the budget and you could definitely get away with a bigger kit of ram if you don’t try to get Corsair lol

[severe axle]

mainly because airflow

[mossy plaza]

hmmmmm

ok

[rich helm]

It’s also a nightmare to build in

[mossy plaza]

should I try and find a cooler master one or somethin?

[rich helm]

I had to build 5 computers in that case before

[mossy plaza]

rip

looks like I have to find a new gpu :/

[rich helm]

The Vega it’s talking about is the integrated gpu

[mossy plaza]

hm

[little osprey]

integrated graphics

[rich helm]

I’ve heard it’s fairly good especially compared to like intel

But not as good as a dedicated gpu

[little osprey]

its in the cpu so no need for a graphics card

[mossy plaza]

wha?

so I dont need a gpu?

[little osprey]

with the 3400g no

[mossy plaza]

dang

[little osprey]

but it would help a lot of you could get one

[rich helm]

Well gpu would get better performance but I doubt it would fit in budget

[mossy plaza]

thats sketchy xd

[rich helm]

Idk what your budget is

[mossy plaza]

500

[little osprey]

500 i think

[mossy plaza]

thats it

I'm tryna make a pc for one of my friends

[rich helm]

Its not that sketchy basically all intel cpus have integrated gpu

[little osprey]

its not sketchy. thats how laptops work

[mossy plaza]

yea ik its just weird to me

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6wGxFT/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlzgd416g3000hc16cdc01

is this good ram?

I was gonna use it in one of my builds but I havent yet

[rich helm]

Yeah pretty good, it’s only 3000 mzh but depending on what cpu you pair it with it won’t matter

[mossy plaza]

would it be good with the 3400g

[little osprey]

Is this intake or out take

[severe axle]

depends on how you mount in case

[little osprey]

if in front its intake

well also depends where you face the fans lol

[severe axle]

intake/exhaust is if air is moved in or out of the case

[analog pulsar]

Plug it in and turn on and see where the wind blows

[severe axle]

@analog pulsar that depends how the rad is mounted in case now

[analog pulsar]

Oh

[little osprey]

Well let me ask a better question, does the fan installation look proper

[severe axle]

yes that looks right

[little osprey]

if you mount in front of the case with fans facing the inside of the case its exhaust. facing towards the front its intake. same with a top mount

Good to know. Thanks

I’m unfamiliar with AIOS lol

same ive never built a pc using an aio

[proven ocean]

did you install your drivers

i didnt install my drivers when i got my 2060 and had the same problem

[mossy plaza]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T3rG3C/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1

is this a good case?

[lilac delta]

sure

[mossy plaza]

neato ok thx

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v6w323/rosewill-case-rangerm

actually i might use this one since its cheaper and kinda looks nice

[lilac delta]

not bad

go ahead

looks goood

[mossy plaza]

aw wait I might not be able to since the cpu cooler im using is a cooler master one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HyTPxr/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-420-cfm-cpu-cooler-rr-212s-20pk-r1

it says they dont know if it will be compatible

[lilac delta]

if you jam it in there good enough its bound to work

[mossy plaza]

oh ok xd

[clever eagle]

Pls help me i built a new pc the lights and fans turn on but none of the ports work

What do i do

[rough bough]

bro their is smoke coming out of my power supply what do i do

[vagrant olive]

[mossy plaza]

...

probably turn off ur pc?

[little osprey]

return it lol

[mossy plaza]

I hope the smoke isn't that toxic...

which ram should I get?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KmfhP6/adata-xpg-z1-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-ax4u300038g16-dsz1

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6wGxFT/team-t-force-vulcan-z-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-tlzgd416g3000hc16cdc01

[silent canyon]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWHRG99/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_q4w3Fb2EZNXMY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 is this sufficient for a 3060ti or a 3070

[little osprey]

go for 700 or 750

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

650 is enough for it

It only takes like barely more than 210w at peak

[wind merlin]

Guys

No way

[urban trellis]

WTF

I can't even find a ryzen 5 3600 here without it being overpriced and u getting a 3070 on normal picr

Wtf

Eu amazon goated

Ur lucky man

[mossy plaza]

thats for sure

[lyric sinew]

YO you got one

lets go

[blazing aurora]

what's a good price for the 2060

[dapper jasper]

like two fidis

[flat pendant]

hey so anyone know how to turn off this counter (top left)

I was just lightly smashing my keyboard and it pulled up lmao

yeah...

[little leaf]

@flat pendant dont have nzxt cam

[flat pendant]

is that what the counter is from?

[stoic island]

Looks like it

[flat pendant]

yep..it is..thanks guys..

also why is nzxt cam hated so much?

[stoic island]

may or may not be playing seg atm

@flat pendant all of them are hated

just bloatware-y

[flat pendant]

ah

[stoic island]

as in, nzxt cam

msi dragon center

asus armory crate

[muted patio]

Well

[stoic island]

hated as in disliked

[muted patio]

NZXT Cam specifically used to spy on you without your permission

[flat pendant]

0-0

[muted patio]

Like, send back everything you had installed, etc

[little osprey]

I have some random one my mom got me from walmart

[muted patio]

That was back in 2017 though

Trust was broken

[dense sonnet]

What peps?

[clever eagle]

i built a new pc with 5800x, x570 tomahawk wifi, 32gb ram and 3070. but no post or ports working and ez debug cpu light is on. what is wrong

[zealous edge]

I have a question

I have a aorus 5700xt

And I have a 750 w psu

Corsair rmx

The aorus 5700xt has 2 x 8 pin plugs and I only have one cable plugged into the psu and into the gpu

Is that fine?

Just watched jayz video and he said 250+ watts plus use 2 different cables

[muted patio]

If it has 2 plugs

You need 2 cables

The PCI-E power cable only supplies 225 watts max

Aorus pulls 265-285

So you'll need 2 cables

[zealous edge]

Alri

It works with one rn though.

[muted patio]

Good luck with that

JayZ also just posted a video where Nick only had one cable plugged in

Killed the card in 27 hours

So

[zealous edge]

Yea

[muted patio]

Might wanna fix that

[zealous edge]

I will

Tmr

Also

Rn my pc is off

I'm gonna do it tmr

Should I unplug the main power cable for my pc?

@muted patio

[muted patio]

For what?

Plugging the cable in?

Just make sure the switch is off

[zealous edge]

Ok

No I mean

The cable is plugged in

And I can't add a cable right now

So should I unplug the main psu cable to avoid damage rn?

[jagged ember]

Just flip the switch off

[zealous edge]

Just did

Done

[muted patio]

It's fine then

[jagged ember]

Same thing either way lol

[muted patio]

All good

[zealous edge]

Alri

Il change it tmr

Nothing should have happened to it rn right?

[jagged ember]

I don't think so

[zealous edge]

Ok

Yea il fix it tmr first thing

Ty

[midnight jasper]

Anyone know of a m.2 ssd that is at least one terabyte and better or just as good as the 980 pro?

[eager dawn]

Figured out my overheating problem

[severe axle]

using qls?

[eager dawn]

@midnight jasper sabrent if u have gen4 capabilities

[severe axle]

seriously though what was the problem

[eager dawn]

Radiator Fan orientation

One out one in

Mu cpu was hitting70 just playing LOL

[jagged ember]

kek

we've all been there

[clever eagle]

why does everyone ignore

[mossy plaza]

does that look like a pretty good 500 dollar budget pc?

[waxen obsidian]

It’s satisfying to clear notifications for this server then see each get highlighted one by one again loll

[mossy plaza]

they might have not seen it I guess just ask tomorrow or somethin sry :/

aw... I just woke u up xd

sorry xd

well maybe

[little osprey]

is that a build for you?

or for a friend

[mossy plaza]

For my friend

Hes on a hard budget

[little osprey]

also is it going to be brought those parts on this month or next year

[mossy plaza]

Next month

[little osprey]

i assume it is a budget of 500 usd?

[mossy plaza]

When his bday comes around hes gonna get 500 usd from his mom to build it

Yea

[little osprey]

well...for a budget build that is kinda ok
but i would swap out the a320 with a b450 atleast and a 3200g

[mossy plaza]

Wait wha? Wdym 3200g

[little osprey]

3200g is a better choice tho

[mossy plaza]

Whats that..

[little osprey]

ryzen 3 3200g

[mossy plaza]

Ohhh

[little osprey]

the igpu on 3400g isn't worth for the price tho

[mossy plaza]

Does it work the same as the 3 3400g?

[little osprey]

well
it is a 4c/4t cpu with vega 8

[mossy plaza]

Nah i mean working where you dont need a gpu

[little osprey]

and the 3400g has vega 11 and vega 11 isn't like a big jump

[mossy plaza]

Oh

Hm ok

[little osprey]

if it's a amd cpunwith a G at the end, that means it's a apu(gpu+cpu)

[mossy plaza]

Ohh ok

[little osprey]

so yeah
imo i would swap that a320 to b450
and swap the hdd with a ssd of 512gb

[mossy plaza]

Yea i tried my best to keep it a lil bit cheaper since he still needs a monitor

I found him one for 50 bucks

But he'll still have to save after he gets the money

Thanks though

I'll make the changes

Tomorrow

Cya

[little osprey]

if he is a really tight budget

i would recommend to go on used stuff

like maybe a used monitor

[mystic needle]

what’s the difference between the Asus Tuf 3080 that costs 700 and the one that’s 750 dollars

[desert gulch]

well what one is 750?

theres many that are

difference can be clock speeds, bin, looks, rgb, stuff like that

[little osprey]

name of the 750 one?

there is like uh...the TUF and tuf OC i guess

[fervent oasis]

did you look at the base clock and ram speed?

dang, I hate the lag

...

gnight all

[upper cobalt]

@hollow grove

you posted your picture in the wrong channel

[hollow grove]

oh

do i post it here?

[lyric sinew]

yeah

[hollow grove]

would this be good?

[upper cobalt]

looks good

[mystic needle]

it was the exact same model

[lyric sinew]

you might want more storage space eventually but that can be upgraded later down the line

[mystic needle]

but yeah it probably was the OC version

[dapper jasper]

what are you gonna be doing

rm850 too expensive, case has bad airflow, cpu is fine if you’re mainly doing productivity work, ram is also overpriced

[little osprey]

ok i guess

[dapper jasper]

can get a cheaper motherboard, same chipset, I think about the same vrms

[desert gulch]

Also that cpu cooler is not necessary at all

Too expensive ino

Imo

[languid adder]

I got a 3600x 2060 super and im getting hella fps drops

[desert gulch]

Ok

Gpu drivers updated?

[languid adder]

Yea

[desert gulch]

What games?

[languid adder]

Fortnite

My friend has same specs but he doesn't get fps drops

[desert gulch]

Hmm but fine in every other game you have right?

[languid adder]

I havent rlly tried other games

Just got the pc 2 days ago

[desert gulch]

Oof

[languid adder]

Ye

2 days ago and im getting hella fps drops

[desert gulch]

Windows fully updated?

[languid adder]

Yea did it today

[desert gulch]

Uhh

[languid adder]

Idk wht to do

Its so annoying

[desert gulch]

What settings?

[languid adder]

Low

[desert gulch]

Oof

[languid adder]

Like its litteraly a new pc to

[desert gulch]

Idk... Maybe try running fortnite with task manager open

[languid adder]

Yep done that

50 percent gpu performance

[desert gulch]

Could be psu limiting

What psu did it come with?

[languid adder]

Check dms

Pls

[quasi inlet]

Hello. I may need some help with some parts of my pc so I need some recommendations.

Should I change the PSU? And which CPU and GPU should I go with.

It's a bit overkill but I'm making it where I won't have to change parts for a while.

[little osprey]

Definitely sounds like psu @languid adder

@quasi inlet I'd go adata swordfish for nvme instead

And tbh, cpu/gpu prices are a bit outrageous rn

Best bet might be a 5 3600 or a ryzen 7 37/3800 for cpu

[languid adder]

@little osprey dms

[quasi inlet]

Ah alright, thank you :)

[desert gulch]

Ight I'm back

[little osprey]

@quasi inlet 👍

[quasi inlet]

Also Should I wait a bit to buy any gpu?

[desert gulch]

@languid adder I'd say best bet would be to return system

And build

1700 CAD is really high for a 3600x and 2060 super build

Even if it is ROG stuff

[languid adder]

I bought it for 1400

Blackfriday

[little osprey]

Still a bit high

I spent just about $1800 USD on a 5 3600, a x570 mobo, 64gb 3200 ram, 8 tb storage(2nvme, 6 sata SSD), and a 850w 80+ gold fully mod psu

Case is a corsair 4000D

[dapper jasper]

cringe

hold up 64gb?

[little osprey]

Granted, I could've gotten a cheaper mobo, but the version I have was the only one that wasn't an A320 mobo

@dapper jasper yes

4x16gb corsair vengeance pro rgb

[dapper jasper]

what the

[little osprey]

What?

They were $120 for each set

Each set was 2x16gb

[dapper jasper]

wth over $200 on ram

flexing a little too hard

[little osprey]

😂😂

Guess the price on my Asus rog strix 850w 80+ gold fully modular psu

[dapper jasper]

oh no

nooo

[little osprey]

$50

[dapper jasper]

$150

[little osprey]

Brand new

[dapper jasper]

how???

[little osprey]

Regular retail is $200

Someone bought it, realized it was a bit much, sold it to me for $50

Was still in the retail packaging

[quasi inlet]

Bruh

[dapper jasper]

noooooo what the hellllll

[little osprey]

10 year warranty as well

[dapper jasper]

lmfaooo this dude just spent so much on something just to give it away

[little osprey]

Pretty much

[still roost]

downside#5671 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

I'm also running a 23" 1080p 1ms 144 hz monitor and a 28" 4k 1ms 60hz monitor

[quasi inlet]

What's your gpu?

[little osprey]

In my username

[quasi inlet]

Oh

Pfft

I should read before asking :')

[little osprey]

My mouse is the corsair scimitar, headphones are corsair, keyboard is the corsair k55

[dapper jasper]

so you spent $1800 on the whole build or only the stuff you noted

[little osprey]

@dapper jasper only the desktop itself

No monitors, no periphrials

[dapper jasper]

what over $1500 for a 5700xt build

[little osprey]

Oh and if I get into the school I want, I'll be building ANOTHER one just for that course so....

@dapper jasper think 8tb of storage

[dapper jasper]

you runnin a server?

[little osprey]

SSD storage

Nah, just can't have too much storage

Though I'm looking at getting a 2070S rn

[dapper jasper]

you crazzyy bro godam

[hollow grail]

teeny storage

[little osprey]

Replacing my 5700XT with a 2070S

[dapper jasper]

2070S for how much

[little osprey]

Don't know yet, talking with someone who's interested in a trade

1 to 1 trade

[dapper jasper]

5700xt for 2070S?

[hollow grail]

imagine wanting an amd pos over a nvidia card

[dapper jasper]

ikr mfs wildin out here

[little osprey]

Lol

Ikr

Texas man

Guy said that if mine was a Nitro he'd do it in a heart beat, but he'd have to do some research into my specific one, but might do so

[hollow grail]

amd gpus are garbo

[little osprey]

Said that a few minutes ago

@hollow grail not all

[hollow grail]

all

[little osprey]

I haven't had any issues at all

[dapper jasper]

most

[hollow grail]

nah, all

no hw transcode

[dapper jasper]

mmm

true

[little osprey]

Only reason I want 2070S is for rtx

[hollow grail]

and dlss and rtx voice and nvenc

[little osprey]

Nah, just rtx

[hollow grail]

youll end up using the other features

and then youll see just how trash amd is lol

[dapper jasper]

ye you just get way more features with nvidia than with amd cards

[hollow grail]

and not dumb gimmick features either

like actual useful features

[dapper jasper]

what does RTX voice do either way, have heard a lot of talk about it, never understood what it was

[hollow grail]

literally the best noise cancellation out there

[dapper jasper]

mmm i see

[hollow grail]

i can be going ham with mx blues and ppl on other side of mic cant hear it at all

[little osprey]

Well....I have a corsair headset...... so.....

[hollow grail]

oooooh wow a corsair headset

[little osprey]

It has built in noise cancellation

[hollow grail]

this literally curbstomps every other noise cancellation

[little osprey]

Not what I meant

[dapper jasper]

sounds neat if it’s that great

[hollow grail]

it rly is

[little osprey]

Well....time to format my 2tb samsung 870 QVO and download Linux on it

[quasi inlet]

O

[hollow grail]

what distro

[little osprey]

@hollow grail nah, spent the last 5 minutes transferring files to my 1tb 860 Evo

[hollow grail]

that doesnt answer my question

like at all

[little osprey]

What question?

[hollow grail]

what distro

[little osprey]

Distro?

[hollow grail]

oh my god

youre installing linux right?

[little osprey]

Yeah...

Oh... distributer?

Ubuntu

[hollow grail]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution

this

oh ubuntu

gross

[little osprey]

What you recommend then oh Linux God

[hollow grail]

idgaf honestly

even tho its based off of ubuntu i like elementary os

its cuter

[little osprey]

https://www.linux.org/pages/download/ , thats all i can find...list wise

[hollow grail]

https://elementary.io/

here

[little osprey]

ummm....that aint free

im good...

👍

[hollow grail]

its free dumy

sees donation page for pay what you want software

[little osprey]

yeah....

HAHAHA

TYPED $0 AND IT TOOK IT

[hollow grail]

donation page for pay what you want software

[little osprey]

nah, ill use ubuntu

[hollow grail]

key words donation and pay what you want

this is based off of ubuntu

theres also deepin i guess

[little osprey]

thing is, this'll be for college so im sure they'll want ubuntu, not a ripoff

[hollow grail]

oh my god

[little osprey]

what?

[hollow grail]

it runs on the ubuntu kernel

it is literally ubuntu at the base

it just has a custom gui package manager

[little osprey]

who knows, they might be that picky about it

[hollow grail]

but still uses apt as the cli package manager

if they are they somehow know less abt linux then you do

but whatever ubuntu works

i just like the elementary stuff more

i dont use the gui on linux so idk too many other fun wrappers

fedora is nice as hell though

[little osprey]

dang it, paypal not working

[hollow grail]

https://getfedora.org/

why do u need paypal

[little osprey]

to get ubuntu

[hollow grail]

NOOOO

[little osprey]

even tho its free

[hollow grail]

oh my god

please stop

[little osprey]

its wanting donations so..

[hollow grail]

wait are u trolling or are u just like this sorry for asking i just dont wanna waste time on a troll

[little osprey]

i set it all to $0, and still goes to paypal

[hollow grail]

IT AUTODOWNLOADS

[little osprey]

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?version=20.10&architecture=amd64

see for yourself

[hollow grail]

i did

https://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu-iso/20.04.1/ubuntu-20.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso

here

[little osprey]

oh..

derp

[hollow grail]

lmao

[little osprey]

didnt realize it autodownloads

[hollow grail]

[little osprey]

my bad, im new at this

[hollow grail]

happens to the best of us

[little osprey]

ive only ever used windows

[hollow grail]

sorry if i seem grumpy im just not high rn

[little osprey]

lol

[hollow grail]

all good

[little osprey]

im never high, never smoked, and cant do coffee so...

[hollow grail]

well thats ur issue

you know how to burn the iso?

makin a bootable usb and all that

[little osprey]

just downloaded it and moved it my my 2tb ssd

if that doesnt work i do have a 128gb sandisk thumbdrive

[hollow grail]

that will NOT work

lol

i help :))

[little osprey]

but i have made a boot drive for windows before

[hollow grail]

lemme guess

using the official usb maker?

[little osprey]

?

oh...for windows

yes

sorry, almost 2 am

[hollow grail]

all good

ok so first we r gonna b using rufus

bonk

plug in your flash drive

[little osprey]

oh...sorry 256 gb sandisk usb

[hollow grail]

remember it will erase EVERYTHING

on the flash drive

[little osprey]

its empty so

[hollow grail]

nice

so plug it in

launch rufus

navigate to the ubuntu iso

and just click burn

it is That EZ

rufus will work on any iso btw its so good

[little osprey]

mbr or gpt?

[hollow grail]

just leave it on default

is it saying itll do uefi?

[little osprey]

"bios or uefi"

[hollow grail]

yep thats fine

just burn it

[little osprey]

done

[hollow grail]

now boot to it

be sure to select the right drive when u install

[muted sluice]

@little leaf u have 30% of the 3070 stock and u can’t even put them in sli

[hollow grail]

[jade spindle]

what do y'all think about running a Corsair Ax850 with a ryzen 9 5900x + radeon 6800xt + custom water cooling? working on my first build and i'm nervous about psu 👀 i was planning on overclocking but not sure if I need to bump psu to 1000w

[hollow grail]

6800xt

that card (besides sucking ass) has been shown to jump up in voltage a lot

[still roost]

Prince_Locke#0031 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow grail]

in power draw i mean

[jade spindle]

😮 i used a naughty word uh oh sorry weggbot ❤️ also drat

[hollow grail]

might consider 1000w just to be safe

[jade spindle]

i've been trying to avoid nvidias 30 series because they just use so much power

[hollow grail]

honestly the amd cards are kinda garbo again

less features for around the same price

[jade spindle]

hnnngngnnnnnnnn

[hollow grail]

no dlss, bad rt, no rtx voice, no nvenc, no cuda

[jade spindle]

thats true but i dont really use any of those 😦 and (assuming msrp actually matters in the future) 6800xt would be so much cheaper than the 3080

that extra $50 gets me basically another fan ;-;

[hollow grail]

like $100 or so

but

do you plan to stream?

or do you vc a lot

honestly as someone whos had cards from both

[jade spindle]

nah not much on the streaming end and only kinda on the vc

[hollow grail]

its worth $100 just to put the card in and NOT have to mess with it every time the drivers update

[jade spindle]

hm..... maybe

idk I guess i'll settle on gpu after all the scalping calms down :/

[hollow grail]

idk to be fair i do a LOT of encode so amd has always been trash tier to me

[stoic island]

Do remember how aib 6800xts are overpriced

There aren't many (if any iirc) aib models at/near msrp, unlike RTX 3080 with gigabyte eagle, msi vetus 3x, etc

[hollow grail]

also that

[stoic island]

@jade spindle also power wise I don't think they draw that much more

I'll grab testing, one sec.

[hollow grail]

@stoic island the amd trash spikes under load

enough to trip overcurrent in some cases

[stoic island]

There's always PSUs that trip with high transient response GPUs

But anyways on average 3080 only draws 30w more than 6800xt

https://youtu.be/jLVGL7aAYgY

Guess I can't timestamp on mobile, but power testing near the end.

[hollow grail]

https://youtu.be/jLVGL7aAYgY?t=1363

here

[jade spindle]

ah i was planning on doing an open loop cooling so i wouldnt have to deal with aio

[stoic island]

Custom loop is wacky

[jade spindle]

lmao legends sending the same video thank!!!

yeah but its so pretty 👀

[hollow grail]

i sent it timestamped so im cooler

[stoic island]

I mean, if you're worried about 50$ on the GPU I would not go custom at all

[hollow grail]

[stoic island]

It gets expensive

[hollow grail]

i just try to do all air tbh custom is crazy unless u do insane oc

[stoic island]

Even the cheap full loop kits will set you back like 400$

[jade spindle]

yeah but thats kinda why im trying to figure out where i can save a bit lmao

[hollow grail]

custom loop is nuts and will kill ur budget

[stoic island]

I'd skimp on the custom loop and just get better everything else

Performance over looks smh

[jade spindle]

the hope is that the pc lasts me until im financially stable again lmaoo

[hollow grail]

then air

[jade spindle]

okay but.... aesthetics.........

[stoic island]

Look man

Hardline is annoying asf

[jade spindle]

if i really wanted to i could just go noctua........

[stoic island]

And soft tubing isn't aesthetically pleasing

[hollow grail]

noctua performs great but

their normal fans are ugly as sin

[jade spindle]

but Hardline Pretty and brain see rgb and go brrr

[stoic island]

Have you thought about how difficult it'll be to install hardline?

It's just

[jade spindle]

ive worked with the pipes before just not for water cooling

[hollow grail]

1111 im thinking of hardline for next build JUST because of this coolant

https://www.primochill.com/products/primochill-vue-pre-mix-32oz?variant=31772407693378

[still roost]

Prince_Locke#0031 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

The annoying bit is if you need to repaste or remount, gotta drain the whole loop, and remove several tubes.

[jade spindle]

I FORGOT WEGGBOT IM SORRY

[hollow grail]

coom

[stoic island]

@hollow grail primo chill does look nice

[hollow grail]

but also

[jade spindle]

yeah thats fair but idk it feels more worth it if I get to see a pretty rig every day ya know?

[stoic island]

Look

[hollow grail]

id rather dump the $6-700 id be paying for hardline

[stoic island]

Aesthetics will wear off very quickly

[hollow grail]

into bandwidth for my cdn

[stoic island]

You'll get bored of it within a month

[hollow grail]

or drives

[little osprey]

looks someone extracted alien blood and made it a coolant

[hollow grail]

or ram

[stoic island]

@jade spindle Humans get tired of things easily

[jade spindle]

@stoic island but then i can change the colors 😦

[stoic island]

It might seem nice and great, but the novelty wears off

I used to love the look of the rgb on my ram

But it's just meh

I don't even bother with rgb software anymore

[jade spindle]

have you considered turning your pc upside down

[hollow grail]

as someone whos built several custom loops

not worth

[stoic island]

No, because my hard drive is not secured lmao

[jade spindle]

F

[little osprey]

custom loop is great for the looks

[stoic island]

Soft tubing is decent

[little osprey]

and to flex

[hollow grail]

1111 pls

soft tubing is uggy

[jade spindle]

yeah no i dont wanna do soft tubing

[hollow grail]

custom loop is cringe tbh

[jade spindle]

it also takes more maintenance :/

[stoic island]

@hollow grail My hard drive is just chilling in my case, not screwed in, how do you feel >:D

[hollow grail]

just tells me the person cared more abt looks that actual perf

@stoic island its a seagate it deserves to suffer

[stoic island]

I'd prob never bother with hard line

Lol

It's lived through all of it so far tho

Tbh I'll prob never bother with hardline

[jade spindle]

the flex on people though when you get a good looking custom loop is a high I will chase for my entire life though

[stoic island]

Soft tubing might make a bit of sense if I wanted some gpu oc

@jade spindle what, you're gonna walk up to people and show them pictures?

[jade spindle]

yes like a proud parent

[stoic island]

Lmao

[little osprey]

[hollow grail]

i like flexing my ram more tbh

[jade spindle]

is my babby look at him go

but ram isnt hard to get pretty 😦

[stoic island]

Yea ram flex is actually a bigger flex imo

Who really cares about looks, it's performance that matters

[little osprey]

2tb of ram flex

[hollow grail]

https://lili.gay/images/fu5rLGeS/tIjxcAAI.png

all 32gb sticks

[little osprey]

very nice

[hollow grail]

pure performance

[stoic island]

If I had to guess, 512gb?

[hollow grail]

[jade spindle]

if its not about looks then what's even the point ;-; i'd end up getting tan and brown and calling it good

[hollow grail]

yea close to it

that was 1/3

[stoic island]

That's what I did, and it's doing me very well

[hollow grail]

used to have 1.5tb

[stoic island]

Noctua is amazing

[jade spindle]

why-- why do you need that much ram-----

[stoic island]

@jade spindle keep in mind Novelty wears off, afterall, things are only novel when they're new.

[jade spindle]

when would that much ram get used

[hollow grail]

@stoic island cant wait when i move

just racking everything

[stoic island]

I'd rather have a consistently well performing PC than one that looks good

Lol

[little osprey]

haha
maintance go brrrrr

[hollow grail]

will no longer care abt rgb

[stoic island]

@hollow grail make sure not to let anyone touch your drives

[hollow grail]

u know what i think when i see someone showing off hardline pics?

"they just got this and have never had to maintain it"

[jade spindle]

pray tell

LMAO

[hollow grail]

the SECOND you have to work on it

you hate it

and hate yourself

[jade spindle]

idk it seems like the same as taking care of a pet just more dangerous

worse case scenario you destroy your entire rig and live as a hermit in the woods so like

[hollow grail]

and if you do something wrong your pc can get fried

worth

[little osprey]

i would rather go air cooling
or like a AIO/AIB lol

[hollow grail]

that being said i want to custom loop one of my servers

when i eventually get a dual socket epyc system im 100% hiring someone to custom loop it

[stoic island]

Aw can't find that meme of a video Tomie sent a while back

[jade spindle]

aio ive just heard a lot about the coolant running out and you cant really maintain them so the card just kinda goes caput

[stoic island]

Of the guy leak testing and the coolant just spewing out

[jade spindle]

GOD

[stoic island]

Still tryna find the vid

[jade spindle]

worthy of pure tears

pure unadulterated tears

[stoic island]

@jade spindle uh AIOs run out of coolant VERY SLOWLY, it's in a closed loop after all

[hollow grail]

sucks how u cant sell stuff here lmao id give ppl the sickest deals on xeons

[stoic island]

I'd trust decent AIOs to be more reliable than custom loop tbh

Demonmit will take you up on the offers lili

[hollow grail]

and yeah

[jade spindle]

but its so uggy :((((

[hollow grail]

no he wont lmao 1111

[little osprey]

or you known
just get air cooling lmao

[hollow grail]

these are like 3k+ cpus

[stoic island]

If the deals are good

[jade spindle]

ya boi's got an m-atx theres only so much room

[hollow grail]

im demonmit but for enterprise hw

[stoic island]

@hollow grail demonmit went for a 10980xe before so

[cursive wharf]

@hollow grail I mean, when doing a just loop just do Bykski tho. Easy $280 or smth for an entire loop

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf shipping is sad

And also, they're chasing aesthetics

[hollow grail]

also i asked and he doesnt want to buy any of my epycs

[stoic island]

I wonder what shipping is now

The bykski kit shipping was 120$ last I checked

[hollow grail]

it sucks too cause honestly my prices are rly good

but like

no one here will ever buy

[stoic island]

Enterprise stuff do be kind of out of reach

[cursive wharf]

but shipping is free if you buy a bunch of stuff

[stoic island]

Hei

[hollow grail]

i should just advertise anyways for the meme

[stoic island]

They're not going to buy 3 kits

Like you did

[hollow grail]

selling epyc 7301 for $550

buy now

[cursive wharf]

Meh, probs should be like $90 for the shipping tho. So like $310 total probs

Unless shipping to US is worse then CA

[hollow grail]

selling epyc 7662 for $2.8k

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf about that

[little osprey]

do you sell like only new xeons & epyc CPUs?

[stoic island]

180usd shipping

[hollow grail]

[stoic island]

That's uhhh

[cursive wharf]

That's forula mod tho

[hollow grail]

i do used ones too but my main thing is new ones at crazy deals

[little osprey]

ah alright

[cursive wharf]

Do pcStoreCooling or whatever it was

[hollow grail]

and ssds and ram

[stoic island]

Buying from formula store direct is almost always more expensive that aliexpress store

Wat

[jade spindle]

aight imma tap out gnight y'all

[cursive wharf]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000807277229.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.846036benAy4WR

[jade spindle]

(aside for the water cooling bit idk if anyone actually said if the ax850 would be enough so like if anyone wants to chime in on that i'd much appreciate it gnight)

[cursive wharf]

What parts? Standard parts with standard OC then 850w is enough

[stoic island]

I think 5900x 6800xt, can't remember

[jade spindle]

ryzen 9 5900x + 6800xt + open loop cooling

[stoic island]

@Hei#8914 pog D.F. finally back in stock again
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P7XLVJG

Yay my pings don't work again

That's nice

[jade spindle]

yeh i wouldnt wanna oc it too much cuz im pretty new to OC as well. the main problem is mostly that my case is an m-atx so i dont really trust air cooling to keep temps down to a reasonable amount

[stoic island]

Don't underestimate air cooling

[jade spindle]

;-; 1111 i dont want noctua please it looks so gross

[cursive wharf]

Wonder if vBIOS mod works well with 6800xt. But, assuming it did, then 550w GPU + 180w CPU + 120w rest of system

[stoic island]

@jade spindle keep this in mind, liquid cooling is literally air cooling, but with a longer heatpipe that moves the liquid

[jade spindle]

thx @cursive wharf

[stoic island]

Liquid cooling doesn't magically dissapate more heat

[jade spindle]

also 1111 my chem degree says water goes brrr

[stoic island]

Heatsink is just further away on a rad

[hollow grail]

noctua has blac

[stoic island]

Noctua is amazing tbh

U12a black coming q1 next year

[cursive wharf]

It helps with the GPU a lot. But unless you get a lot of rad stuff, noise normalized perf of CPU doesn't get much better

[jade spindle]

ahweuifh hold on lemme just send a pic of my rig rn before any upgrades (new fans are coming in)

[cursive wharf]

Compared to smth like D15

[stoic island]

Yea cooling also gets diminishing returns after a certain point

[jade spindle]

he's baby and also needs some love in upgrades

[cursive wharf]

Mmhhh bad airflow case tho

[jade spindle]

case tiny and already so brrr

RIGHT

[cursive wharf]

Given you are going custom loop, I hope you are changing that

[stoic island]

(because liquid cooling needs airflow too)

[jade spindle]

my cpu and gpu are like pretty regularly around 60c when i play any Game

[little osprey]

60c on max load?

[jade spindle]

no ;-;

thats the thing its not even max load

[stoic island]

Game load isn't max load

[jade spindle]

its like minecraft on like medium settings running optifine

[stoic island]

Too lazy atm, Prime95 smallfft, furmark.

[jade spindle]

i tried running horizon zero dawn on medium settings and it got angry

[cursive wharf]

furmark kinda isn't max load without vBIOS mod

[stoic island]

:p

It's about as close as you're gonna get without much of an effort

@cursive wharf by the way, do you use msi afterburner's fan controls at all? Can't figure out why my GPU fans ramp up and down seemingly on a fan curve despite a set speed on afterburner

[jade spindle]

aight gamers its like 4 am my time so im heading to bed but thanks for the help gnight

[stoic island]

Narrowed it down to at the 75c mark, and according to Aida64, the GPU fan speed rpm changes, but the % next to it stays the same as what I placed into afterburner, and stayed constant.

[cursive wharf]

Wait, was thinking about postFX furmark stress test

vBIOS sees that test as too harsh and limits GPU heavily. Noticed a lot of 70% - 90% PL when doing that

Also yeah, I do whenever I'm on air

[stoic island]

The anti-furmark bits eh

@cursive wharf Is the manually set % fan speed like override rpm, or is it some kind of other thing?

[cursive wharf]

Tbf sounds like a driver / vBIOS issue. Same % but diff RPM

Unless RPM is changing like 0.5% worth of RPM

[stoic island]

Oh no it's like going from like 1000rpm to 2600rpm while saying it's at 25%

[cursive wharf]

Idk how afterburner works in setting things, so can't say. But if multiple things are saying seemingly impossible stuff, I'd bet on drivers / vBIOS

[stoic island]

I'm gonna guess it's a vbios thing, updated drivers very recently, sad.

Gets quite annoying because my gpu hovers around like 74c

And my case fan curves going off cpu temp is very passive in terms of bringing air into the case

[cloud oasis]

Can anyone help with audio

I have a speakers realtek(r) audio

[cursive wharf]

It might even be a faulty PWM controller. Could be worth an RMA

[cloud oasis]

cant hear a thing

[stoic island]

Had the card for quite a while now, and with no replacements, I'd honestly just bear it

Integrated audio is wacky

[cloud oasis]

yea

[stoic island]

@cloud oasis turn it off and on again

Uninstall and reinstall drivers

And hope it works

[cloud oasis]

I tried it already

I tried reinstalling windows to lol

[cursive wharf]

Did it use to work?

Sure it isnt the speakers?
Also update BIOS.

[cloud oasis]

I have them connected to my headphones

[little osprey]

If i got a i5 10400f and a gt710 for few months would that work? I'd get a 3060ti when i can.?

[little osprey]

Yeah

Also is a msi b460 tomohawk mobo good for i5 10400f?

[vestal stratus]

look

[ripe wedge]

so the website you are on

[vestal stratus]

i was on google

and saved an anime pic to my folder

[ripe wedge]

and like I said norton is stupid and unreliable

[vestal stratus]

should i delete the screenshot

[ripe wedge]

no

[jagged ember]

You're probably fine?

Just uninstall norton, go get malwarebytes scan

[vestal stratus]

norton came preinstalled on my acer nitro 5 2020

[ripe wedge]

if ur really afraid, right click and go to scan with windows defender

windows defender isnt amazing but its prolly better than norton

[jagged ember]

Windows defender generally enough if you pair it with common sense lol

[ripe wedge]

^

[lucid rock]

@vestal stratus my best suggestion is to get rid of norton and you can uninstall it some what with ease via windows uninstall softwere and then id suggest getting malwerebytes and doing a scan every once in a while

[ripe wedge]

^

[lucid rock]

also fyi if your gonna be downloading stuff from the internet either stay on safe sites or be careful when doing so

[jagged ember]

Aka common sense

[ripe wedge]

you could also get extensions to help

such as adblock

[vestal stratus]

Look

[ripe wedge]

and I think there are some cookie blockers too

[lucid rock]

Ublock orgin is a free extension that is really nice to have

[vestal stratus]

i dont download sketch stuuf

[ripe wedge]

cloudfront.net

[vestal stratus]

im fucing scared to death

[lucid rock]

you might think that but some sites look safe but are sus a f

[ripe wedge]

well dont be afraid, like I said its prolly just norton being stupid

[lucid rock]

norton is pretty dumb ngl

[ripe wedge]

LOL

cloudfront.net is amazon

its an amazon webservice

[ripe wedge]

it was prolly it saying your norton is expiring or something

[vestal stratus]

here^

[lucid rock]

legit just f norton

get malwerebytes

[ripe wedge]

^

[jagged ember]

More likely than not

That's not really a virus

Norton dumb

[ripe wedge]

it was most likely a pop up

[vestal stratus]

i dont touch any pop ups or ads saying i won something

[ripe wedge]

it was norton trying to pop up an ad for their adware it looks like and it blocked the ad pop up