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No, because you can’t delete all the files yourself
you have to do that from the usb stick (just like we told you the other day)
no
because you cannot remove your own body
you are the one that said, the other day, and earlier today, that you wanted a fresh start
Ik
then why are you acting worried that it will delete things?
You can buy it for like $5
Why can't I just boot from the ssd with windows into windows??
@cerulean pelican i saw you lurking, please ask? :)
The right way to do it is to link it to your account, get the usb set up with windows and wipe everything
I think you’re making it harder
Is the OEM key different from the non oem key
in what you can see? no
OEM is a type of license that is attached to the motherboard of your pc
Otherwise there is no difference
Ok
non-oem is also tied to the mainboard
it just has multiple activation rights
Where can I get an OEM key
basically yes :)
There’s a number of key resellers
I don’t have experience with them so I won’t comment on specific ones
I got my keys through university years ago
@cerulean pelican you blown up the system or did it suddenly work?
Ok
guessing you have converted them to online accounts/keys years ago?
ah, fair :)
@zealous edge check your DM for assist on that.
Why would I click on that link lmao
Yeah seems sketchy
Banned
@zealous edge please screenshot and post it here?
I got an ss
You could or couldn’t. It’s up to you. Just trying to help.
As you seem absolutely clueless
thats a kickback link @cobalt loom
Go check Robeytech’s YouTube video that he worked with manufacturers with.
helping is okay, but at least dont post a kickback link
Kk
To be fair I don’t think it’s his kickback
It’s not.
its the youtubers @hazy rune
does not matter
its technically a advertisment for that channel
Fair
Either way, just trying to help. But whatever. Find a key on your own then.
I wouldn’t spend that much
@cobalt loom the link, without the kickback/referral part would have been fine to post
Meh, I’m not one to post links in other DC’s just for this exact reason.
No idea, but you should be able to get one for $5
Where.?
So I can't use the windows on my other USB right
Its better just to get a new key?
For a new pc
there is no "specific" windows on that usb
Notbusb
its the installer for A version of windows @zealous edge
IF you want to truly start fresh? no. you cannot
Is it better to start fresh with completely new build?
as we told you the other day, about 6 times iirc, yes.
oh man this feels good. just bought all the parts.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BQkYmk
holding out with a rx 570 until i get my hands on a 3060ti or 3070
They are completely safe right?
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Maybe this but idk
that looks like a fair build @outer heart, congratulations :)
thank you!
correct
do you happen to know if a 570 holds any resale value? hopefully gonna need it for only a little while
very little if any @outer heart
but it ultimately depends on the local area around you
I mean used gpus are selling for a lot on eBay right now
who knows, there might be interest etc
yeah i checked quickly and they were ~120
Or keep it as a backup, 3600 doesn’t have integrated graphics
that is also a good idea
Between shipping and eBay fee you’re looking at max $60 for your card
Up to you whether that’s worth it
yeah, also if the main gpu dies
atleast there is a backup that can play most games
Yes, that’s what the backup is for
You can’t use your pc otherwise
That being said I have never had a gpu die, so...
no worries, see dm :)
Hey guys anyone got any cool ideas for table legs
Truss
Wha
@foggy hazel
I got windows
I have a queation
It shows that
I deleted the partitions
Do i need to delete delete system reserved
Anyone?
I dont think you deleted it
Ok
@zealous edge you need to delete that too
Ok
whats the difference between these two https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare?CompareItemList=24-022-815%2C24-022-914
press next
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h/p/N82E16813145054?Description=GIGABYTE GA-A320M-S2H AM4 AMD A320 SATA 6Gb Am I going to receive it with an updated BIOS to support 3rd Gen Ryzen?
i am puzzled by what you have done with your system
have at it
try a format.
where are you seeing that option?
The home screen
Is my pc broken lol.?
Or??
It can't install windows
Maybe go into bios
Maybe demonmit can help
I also deleted the system files like you said
okay, i am going to need actual details. and nothing else from you now
Ok
full system specs
compile into 1 message thank you
I9 9900k, 5700xt, nzxt kraken x53, 3600 corsair ddr4 ram, aorus wifi pro z390 mobo
Kingston ssd 240g is plugged in rn
what version of ssd?
Wym
m.2?
Ni
2.5inch?
2.5 inch
which specific port is the drive plugged into?
there are 6 ports it could be plugged into
move it up to the bottom of the top 2
I need to shot down for that
as in, the port closest to the mainboard itself, but at the top of the 6 ports
Shut*
yes shut down for that
what windows menu?
How do I shut off from bios??
i usually press f10 and get to windows login and shut down from there
press power button
or that
sure, if you want
Ok
you dont have to unplug
hey Nil
@desert gulch good practice etc
ik but switch on psu does same thing
pulling cord = you cannot forget to flip switch
Ye
ye ig
looks like drive is not configured for uefi did we try legacy boot or in uefi convert it to MBR
but if you push power button to drain all power youll know if you forgot psu switch
yeah i guess
I like @foggy hazels plug the plug solution its fool proof
mhmm
all due respect to users @desert gulch, but they imo, cannot be trusted to NOT set themselves on fire
often times advice is what you should do not what I would do lol
lol yup
Gonna put gpu in
less talking, more doing @zealous edge
Yall i wanna get some aura sync compatible rgb white fans any ideas which ones are a good value
Now?
well @gentle pilot whats your budget?
Ok
if you want best of the best I'd say corsair
Okay okay
Naed?
https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-1yf-0010-002e1 arent the cheapest but decent fans that are white and aura compatible
cheapest would probably be uphere fans or something
quick question, is this a good build ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHt2bh
but you get what you pay for
@foggy hazel
id get better ssd @carmine geyser
like ?
and idk about that psu
@carmine geyser its odd why intel?
ryzne prices
Thank you for the suggestions
Where did naed go
idk
@desert gulch also never heard of it
The drive is being detected
uh i asked my friend about getting a pc, and i wanted to know if it was good so im asking you guys
yeah i would go with a more name brand psu
i dont know much about pc builds
Naed will be back he is always busy with something
or seasonic
Ok
@carmine geyser Its ok I dont really like that cpu with that gpu as it will bottleneck it
I would go amd at that price point
like 3600?
yeah
what cpu should i get than ?
@zealous edge try and boot from the usb again, and install windows again
@zealous edge naed is back
@carmine geyser 3600 would be a better choice
what's a 3600 ?
amd 3600 r5
oh, is that comaptibale with the mobo ?
no
no
go with b450 or b550
ok
I like intel just not an i5 with a 3070
yes
gigabyte b550m ds3h would be decent
@zealous edge back to the bios
so guys i just bought a hyper 212 and its gonna be here in a few days.. any steps that i need to be aware of? I know that to remove stock cooler i should run system hard so thermal paste becomes less gluey and i need to not yank on cpu cooler and rip cpu out of socket
take it off slowly
Thats what it says
yes
UEGI
so u dont rip the 3600 out the socket
Uefi
im not gonna be one of those ppl lol
twist, dont pull.
its as simple as that
and what cpu should i get ?
dont really need to run it hard to get paste hot or anything it should come apart pretty easy as Naed said with a twist
ive heard the pre applied paste on stock coolers is like glue on reddit and such
not in my experience of pulling a few 1000 off
not once
good
i cant find the ryzen 5 3600 on pcpartpicker
its very shallow on stock
@zealous edge yes, and you are not the only one i am helping, so again. have some patience.
i wouldnt buy it for over 200, its msrp
Ok
oh, than you guys recommend me a pc that i can get now for 1000 ?
ryzen 5 3600
it may take a day for it to come back
idk havent look at its stock recently
killed a x299 mobo one time with an XE chip but that was install not removal and mostly because thats the dumbest socket ever
yo evin its on pcpp
there you go
its $199 USD here
not best price but I'd say its fair
yup np
@zealous edge in the bios, there is tab called "bios"
in bios
go back to the "boot" tab
"storage boot option" set it to legacy
uh what do i do ?
Storage boot option control?
yes @zealous edge
save and exit
@carmine geyser you probably have an intel mobo in list
it will filter by compatibility
see what the installer says this time around @zealous edge
can anyone recommend a good starter pc for gaming either 150 or under i am trying to find one for my friend he has never had a "gaming" really and i thought about getting him one for X-mas
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QYqjBc here's the current build
Still says that
@narrow rose got any bright ideas?
yeah back to uefi and change disk to mbr
has to be done in command line
Ok
would be much easier if we could stick it in a pc with windows
should be able to do it with usb windows install
boot from the usb
go to recovery mode
I'm a pc brainlet, but would using grub boot help him? Or maybe MiniTool Partition Wizard to repair/make changes to the Master Boot Record?
Previously I had grub set up to allow me to choose betwen w7 and ubuntu on the same disk, idk
he can do what he needs from the cmd
yep
so loading a secondary loader is just busy work at that point
the idea IS valid.
but he is confused enough as is
Heard that! 😄
yeah drives can be a pain sometimes
and the challenge here is that is a history with that user
lol
aah.
OOOF
remember the slave/master jumpers that really threw people for a loop back in the day
oh yes
the best part of sata was NOT the speed or anything
it was the lack of those darn jumpers
lol
because its logical enough for us
but its a nightmare to explain to someone
"now, place the drive with the pcb facing down"
"now, put the jumper on pin 1 and 2, from the left, in the top row"
kind of like we are dealing with the software equivelant right now lol
1 hour later, you figure out that the user placed it pcb facing up
1 second later you have a telephone sized hole in the wall
oh yeah those jumpers
which ones were you talking about Nil?
the old pre sata drives
I see how "oh yeah" makes it sound like I was talking about some other jumpers but its because of the lack of inflection in typing lol
aye aye, the IDE jumpers, which is also what i was talking about:)
so yeah, we stand united as old farts :P
yep
also remember when cpu pins actually were fragile?
I know that somehow people bend/break them today but man back in the day if you looked at it wrong
eh, if we go back far enough, they were thick as heck
pretty sure I could flick the pins off this amd thunderbird i have lol
ah aye aye, around that period, they started scaling up pin density, and yes, we have a number of generations with VERY weak pins there
on the topic of pins
i miss socket 1/A
lol we all do good old 486 maybe a 386 I dont remember
nah, that was the pentium 2/3 and k7 athlons
the long vertical "cartridge" like slots
oh thats right 486 is just "socket 1"
so simple
aye
generic works with intel though
yeah it did little blue socket
aye
overdrive
holy hell you are making me wade around in some dusty braincells mate
google doesnt have a good pic of the OG I could probably find my old 486/586 if I dig around my basement
:)
all the irrelevant ancient PC knowledge could come in handy someday....LOL
I broke my computer lmao
require high res images of socket 1
aye Nil
lol they are both really high res for some reason
Anyone wants to swap a 6800xt with a 3080 BNIB, Canada
You could super sample the image to increase its 'quality'
Ok
then remember the number
Eo i select language first btw
picture of what you see
Hey Nilboggen what would you recommend for a 10 day old new build graphics card turning off after 10 seconds of the system being turned on
where did cmd prompt go?
on purpose?
Yes
please DO NOT do things you are NOT asked to do
Ok sorry
what was the drive number?
do things again
😅
and then show a picture
at least of the list drives response
last thing i asked you to do was list the drives can you show that screen
I cant read that but whats the number
so that doesnt make sense like where did the previous instance go?
start over i guess
type : diskpart
lol no problem
so it is 0
Select disk 0
One question
once it finishes type: exit
Can I try to install just after doing clean?
no
Ok
now install as normal
new
Nope
wont format?
It did I think
picture
@sly tapir did it only ever display for the 10 minutes
Hmmm il upload it to YouTube and then send it
It flashes no display on and off every 30 seconds
When I like format it shows a loading sign
Indeed I have also swapped out the pcie 8 pin connector
press next
I have also repeated the ram
I did
Adjusted the 24 pin motherboard connector
An nothing happens
Made sure the hdmi cable was connected to the computer vis take out and back in
@zealous edge only thing I could suggest then is to reformat the usb and put another copy of the windows install on there
it shows the drive we know its mbr now you are in uefi unless the windows install is corrupted or the drive itself is damaged I cant think of anything that could be wrong
and i am out of ideas for now
and i am turning in for the night. (close to 03 at night here)
later
Kk
@sly tapir using the right 8 pin right?
Should I get windows installer again
pcie one?
@zealous edge yeah first thing I would try is a new copy of the windows install
its either the disk or the installer
R5600x
Ok
so no onboard graphics.
did you also plug the 8 pin into the motherboard?
another one not the same one it sounded wierd when i read that
Indeed
and you said you reseated the ram
does gpu have lights normally?
Sadly not j can tell it's off via its fans though
fans used to turn on at start on gpu?
so not at start up though?
Especially at startup
oh ok so we know its not getting normal power
most gpu fans dont spin at startup
when it asks or after install it will keep asking you for it
I always hear the fans on the GPU throtteling on startup usually
@sly tapir is there another 16x slot on that motherboard?
@zealous edge there you go good to go
Nice
well first thing I would try is another PSU if you can get a hold of one
it could be the GPU is just dead but that should be unlikely
I so have a 550w in my closet but my tdp is like 50w under that
thats fine try that
we wont run cp2077 or anything it will be fine
Thank you I will come back with what I have done tommorow ❤
@zealous edge no you will need to download them even if windows does give you some from 6 months ago
Cp you mean unpostimised computer killer
@sly tapir ok someone will be on that can help
very well just not by this discord lol
You can never be to talented
don't tell him I said so but I think Naed's even smarter than me 🤫
Ok
🚶♂️
what about dababy
Spittin
We gettin off topic
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6g2D7X is there anything I shou change on this list
yeah hopefully the 3000's arent so inflated in price next year
since i got my 3070 for $700
L 😭
Are the 1080ti usually $800 or how much are they?
probably like 300 used
geez what a steal
Yea true
is this chat still dead ?
or has it awokon ?
can you guys tell me if this is a good build ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dsD92V
Decent cxm has coil whine and why ONE fan aio
what does that mean ?
should it have more ?
AMD CPUs
ok
assuming you are just gaming?
yes sir
yeah sure
"just gaming"
pretty sure thats not how math works
my boy here games so hard his chair needs a seatbelt
uh 6 ?
maybe
open*
hyes

around the same performance for $200 less
yeah my modem has been weird
gonna replace it in a minute actually
thank you
in fact im pretty sure my build is significantly better
3060Ti is on par with a 2080 super if I remember correctly
and a 5600X is crazy fast
that build is better than my current one
?
GTX 3090???
hmm
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B2k2W3 is this better, i revised it a little, i would a perfer an intel build..
Why intel over amd
because, i trust intels stuff a little bit more
i had a bad experience iwth amd once
AMD gotten ALOT better
I trust amd a lot more
But I can make a list for youintel if u want
Keep in mind that ur gaming new amd chips will beat intel by a lot
make the intel list please
Ok
Amd not buget tho
GPU software, yes. Processors, oh heck no
AMD will be cheaper overall
I mean
Not really none off the parts are in stock at a good price
You can spend less on some coffee lake processors at least
9900k and the other 9000 CPU’s are going for some good prices rn
Not intel amd
If you don’t mind losing performance, and prefer a more mature platform @carmine geyser , coffee lake might work best
what's coffee lake
I’m just saying coffee lake is p good rn
9900, 9700, etc
oh
The performance gain with 10th Gen isn’t worth it
Yep but I was saying amd good at msrp better then intel
By miles, definitely
@little osprey if you're done with the list please dm me it
But you cant get amd at msrp
But rn with stock and stuff, 9th Gen won’t be bad
yerr
okay tyyy
oka
Because it’s only $5 more then your current cooler
same ngl.
Ye sit does
Then take that over the Scythe
Ya
Look at this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CTMzht compared to this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zjRrRT
@narrow rose remind me, Intel doesn’t scale well with ram speed right
@narrow rose is his list good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zjRrRT
I’d drop the RAM to like
3000mhz? It’s safe and doesn’t kick the ram in the knees
nah I would leave the 3200
my 8700k gets along well with my 4666mhz ram 😉
but like no real performance increase so if I could go back in time and save that money and keep the 3200 that I had I would lol
unless there is a huge savings by going 3000 vs 3200
@little osprey I keep finding the kf to be more expensive then the K
So drop that down, save some more
KF vs K get whatever is cheaper
Also worst case if your gpu needs to be RMA’d, you at least get to fallback on your iGPU
@little osprey I approve of the build I like it
but @median horizon is right about the 10700K vs 10700KF
Also I don’t get why Intel prices the KF higher then the K
@little osprey about ur build here https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dvdyt8 , do you think you can find a cpu that's in stock ?
It is in stock and when are h buying
around now ish
oh wait
it is
it says 85 dollars on best buy but 135 on amazon
sigh
the real question is Is the only white 3060ti the galax one??
@little osprey tbh depending on what you want, you can look at benchmarks and determine if the 3200 is worth it
Also idk, has Gigabyte even released 3060ti models?
I mean that white case needs white parts
"asus registers rog strix white rtx 3060 ti" I cant find a pic but it might exist
Wait what case is he using again lemme check
Nil
I’m sorry but
Corsair 4000D performs better for a cheaper price, and in multiple colors
Time for 4000D AF supremacy
its a nice looking case
bruh i so glad I bought my 1660 ti and 5 3600X 3 months ago now they are all mad overpriced because of shortages
kind of looks like an imac pro lol
It’s so unbelievably good for only $80
Isnt the solid front panel quieter and cheaper, for a light hit to performance
haf x evo is my go to but its kind of ugly I like it because it has real handles, horizontal motherboard, and they are stackable.
meshify c when it goes on those 70$ sales is pretty good value
It’s a bit small and doesn’t please my aesthetic, but definitely a good case
meshify c and mx330-g are my most recommended cases for new builders and budget builds
that mx330-g is so cheap
I'm waiting on 6800XT
I've seen it on sale for like $25 and its a decent case with great airflow and it doesnt look to bad
MX330-g air with the 3 included fans for 55$ is a great deal almost always
but everything about the case is super simple and nice to build in
Mesh, Tempered glass, Enough pre-installed fans
@stoic island
easily cleanable dust filters lol
mx410
meshify c is great also just a little more money and more nice to haves
once it consistently hits 70$, i hope it becomes the "default" case
like the H510 was for a while before people discovered airflow
Is this list good https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dpJJgt
Nvm
mesh version is good tho
the only thing in ur build i question is your "Stella fans"
lol
I want to question monitors
Why 1080 monitor?
You’ve got a 3060ti and R5 3600
I dont like the keyboard or the mouse or the monitors (hopefully you already own those and arent paying those prices) but I like the pc part
2 fans for 45$?
Gaming
Reasonably good pairing but I’d get a 1440p monitor tbh
you cant pay $260 anythings for that 144hz monitor
I’m getting wireless version on glorious model o
Cad
ok I like the wireless model o
Fully hotswapp
cad
No,point
why not?
Waste of money
@little osprey I mean build quality wise, like I think HK might have some qc things with the gk61
Huh
but mz60 I have no idea about
I like the room for cable management in the 4000D as well as the psu shroud
bit wacky
Ik
Carter’s pc discord server recommend it
If I were you go 1440p tbh
Yea I think it's another gk61, but I seriously don't know anything beyond that
no idea who carter is but yea
Expensive in cad
Lol it’s a tech tiktoker perosn
Cloud 2 also decent iirc
And they said stellas are better the ll120s and mz60 is food
monitor wise is weird
Link?
I thought 24g2 is good
I have a 24" 1080p 144hz 1 ms lg monitor for $150. It's all I need
Ya
A cool monitor I might suggest is M27Q, FI27Q or Q-P
or save a little somewhere and get this https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/aoc-27-fhd-165hz-1ms-gtg-curved-va-led-freesync-gaming-monitor-c27g2-black-red/14777942?irclickid=2aky1Xw0ExyLUZh0MKVSfWfHUkE3zFQFRV2%3AwU0&ref=affiliate&utm_content=79301&utm_source=IR&acmp=PCPartPicker&utm_term=641751&irgwc=1
All are pretty good and should be in a reasonable price range
but it also could be lube, like 205g0
Ya the one in my list
his options are limited hes in canada
tanks
prices are super weird
cheapest decent 1440p monitor I see is 440cad
https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16824737008
so ya
At one point 3600 was cheaper in cad then us
$345 a little steep
yeah thats why I said weird somethings are cheaper some more expensive in a random sort of way
I spent $300 on my 4k monitor....
I mean the Canadian economy is a wreck rn
Tbh, I overspent
And ours isn't?
don't tell him that lol
Fair enough.
Not really it’s really high rn
Ya before COVID it was .74 now it’s .78
Nice
US is actually doing much better than I or most people thought it would be