building-and-recc-chat

[vagrant olive]

oh

[hollow grail]

eh i wouldnt say trash but its not good at all

[vagrant olive]

man idk

whats a good m.2

for $100

1 tb

[hollow grail]

i like the corsair drives

[obsidian wigeon]

a2000 is cheapest tlc with dram

[hollow grail]

killer rated tbw

[vagrant olive]

this?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[vagrant olive]

rad

thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

yw

[hollow grail]

id get mp34 over that

[obsidian wigeon]

or that

[hollow grail]

much faster

[vagrant olive]

oh

lol its $1 less

ez budgeting

[obsidian wigeon]

but the p1 is hella pathetic ngl

[vagrant olive]

ill go with the mp34 ig

i didnt think much about the storage

[hollow grail]

theres also this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RCM6DXK

i use it as a flash drive lol

[jagged ember]

p1 is a very budget ssd

you can also consider the SN750

[vagrant olive]

i dont mind paying $10 extra if its way faster

but 110 is definitely my cap

[jagged ember]

very similar to the MP34

but cheaper, i think

[hollow grail]

true plus its from a more reputable brand

[vagrant olive]

only part of my build im not completely sure of now is my mobo

[jagged ember]

lol mp34 is from a plenty reputable brand

[hollow grail]

i dont trust team all too much

[jagged ember]

just like i don't trust oloy

but they're both good

[hollow grail]

theyre good but id pay a bit more to know i got a ssd from a bigger brand

[jagged ember]

eh, fair enough

i'd just get whatever's cheaper

[vagrant olive]

eh, sn750 1 tb is 130 rn

[hollow grail]

im 100% sure theyre just using the lowest binned nand they can get their hands on

[vagrant olive]

if prices are down by the time i buy parts i might get it

[jagged ember]

i'd just get what's cheapest then

[vagrant olive]

whats a good b550 atx mobo

im going for around $140-170 range

or x570 bc i think thats similar?

[hollow grail]

idk depends on what you do wide

would be a bit worried abt the drive failing and taking data with it

personally

but 99% of my nvme are just scratch drives

[jagged ember]

i mean as a boot drive

it's fine too, right?

also, data failure is why i do backups lol

speaking of, i need to back up my phone

been meaning to do that all week

[hollow grail]

true but a backup is only as good as what you back up to

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[jagged ember]

one external drive, one nas, one offsite storage

[hollow grail]

i do backups every month to my nas, offsite server, gdrive, and b2

[jagged ember]

oh geez

[hollow grail]

thats how to do it wide

the ol 321 backup

[jagged ember]

i did the bare minimum for data security lol

[hollow grail]

3 different backups on 2 different mediums in 1 different place

lol i dont even encrypt my gdrive

theres like 50tb just vibing up there

[jagged ember]

yo das a lotta storage

what do you back up?

if you don't mind me asking lol

[hollow grail]

Id tell you

But then id have to kill you

[vagrant olive]

for what i do i cant imagine needing more than 1-2 tb

[hollow grail]

Lol

I have over 200x that

[vagrant olive]

i have 1 tb rn, if im starting to hit the cap, i just get rid of all the useless unnecessary stuff i havent deleted

[hollow grail]

getting rid of files

Sinner

[jagged ember]

do it

[vagrant olive]

rn i have 650 gigs free

of 930

[jagged ember]

kill me, i'm right here

do iitt

[hollow grail]

I freak out when i get under 4tb free

[vagrant olive]

i'd say me too but i havent built my pc yet so i kind of want to do that first

wtf

just like

ship me over a ssd

ez

[hollow grail]

Lmao never

[jagged ember]

damn, that got the predator in the past

remember that scene?

[vagrant olive]

so what would be like

one of the best m.2 s i could get for about $100

1 tb

since i dont need 50 tb of space

backed up to 20 different locations

with military grade security

[jagged ember]

actually, you do

[vagrant olive]

i live wild

my ssd goes down i go down with it 😤

[hollow grail]

50tb is smal

little baby storage

[jagged ember]

Sn750 1tb is 130

shh

[vagrant olive]

130

big price

maybe idk

[jagged ember]

MP34 is 107 for 1TB

[vagrant olive]

lili said team ssds are like

shady

idk

thats what i was gonna get but who knows

[jagged ember]

up to you

[earnest olive]

@hollow grail do you still love me

[vagrant olive]

what in the

[jagged ember]

LOL

[vagrant olive]

do you have actual stuff stored on the boot drive

or is everything you do on the hdd

[jagged ember]

personally I'd get mp34 cause it's cheaper and frankly i'm not moving a lot of data continuously

[vagrant olive]

thats hot

that is very hot

[earnest olive]

@vagrant olive it's all games and programs

[jagged ember]

'aw, thats hot, thats hot'

[earnest olive]

all of my actual data is on the hard drive

[vagrant olive]

ah

[earnest olive]

it's funny cause that tiny little smidgen of a bar is like the size of a lot of peoples' ssds if you think about it though

[jagged ember]

really is

[earnest olive]

220 gb

[vagrant olive]

big

[earnest olive]

i believe 250gb drives are displayed as 231gb in windows

[vagrant olive]

hdd

[earnest olive]

i was actually only gonna have a 1tb ssd

then my friend just randomly decided to give me a 6tb hdd

so i was like ok sure i guess

[vagrant olive]

who are u friends with

i need to know

[jagged ember]

kek i had to get my own 2tb hdd

[earnest olive]

well

he works IT for a small company

and he is in charge of building all of the office pcs

[jagged ember]

so he's linus

at ncix

[earnest olive]

his boss wanted him to upgrade a NAS and retire the drives that were about a year old

and he was just allowed to keep all of these perfectly good 6tb drives

so he gave a few of them to our friend group

[hollow grail]

lol nice

wd red?

[earnest olive]

6tb is more than i will ever use

yeah

wd red

how did you guess

[jagged ember]

6tb and nas

[little osprey]

yummy

[jagged ember]

usually means wd red

[earnest olive]

fair enough i know nothing about NAS

[hollow grail]

nontrash nas drives are mostly all WD

i mean nontrash drives in general are mostly all WD

[earnest olive]

i did a crystaldiskmark on it and it's pretty respectable speed

like 170 MB/s read and write?

[jagged ember]

nice

[hollow grail]

yeah not bad for a 5400rpm drive

[earnest olive]

i think the high end 7200RPM drives can do like 220-240?

[hollow grail]

close to that

but 7200rpm is awful in a nas/server

[earnest olive]

yeah

[hollow grail]

way too much rattle and heat

[earnest olive]

i know that much at least

[jagged ember]

idk we've just had this nas for a couple years

now that i've inherited the mantle of techie in the household

it is mine

[earnest olive]

1 year old NAS drive should be good for quite a while

since they're built to last longer than standard consumer drives right?

i have a backup anyways

[jagged ember]

i mean even 1 year old normal drives should last a while

[hollow grail]

what nas?

[jagged ember]

Synology DS916?

[hollow grail]

niiiice

[jagged ember]

wasn't my purchase though lmao

[hollow grail]

almost ended up working for them

[earnest olive]

i have heard of consumer hard drives having an average fail time of 3-4 years which sounds crazy to me

[hollow grail]

just was worried it was some trash brand like drobo or qnap lol

[earnest olive]

i have a hard drive pulled out of a 21 year old laptop that still works

it's clickier than it ought to be and triggers disk repair at startup sometimes

so it's probably failing

but 21.. lol

that is 1 year younger than me

[hollow grail]

@earnest olive hd sentinel is your friend

[earnest olive]

what is that?

[stoic verge]

why the bloody hell are CPUs are so damn expensive now.

[hollow grail]

https://www.hdsentinel.com/

[earnest olive]

ah monitoring software

well i'm really not interested in actually using a 21 year old drive

[hollow grail]

this is what i trust to run on alllll my drives lol

[earnest olive]

but like

[hollow grail]

yeah but itd be fun to test

[earnest olive]

the fact that it works is funny to me

is there a difference in anything that can read SMART?

[hollow grail]

this reads it and dumbs it down

veey glanceable

very*

[earnest olive]

the software i use to control case fans based on gpu temp can also read SMART

idk i just look at the OK column

[hollow grail]

i prefer percentage monitors

[earnest olive]

my ssd actually counts how many times the system has crashed

i found that interesting

[hollow grail]

lol

[earnest olive]

it's at 47 because of when i was tuning overclocks

[hollow grail]

47

[earnest olive]

i've tuned 3 different gpus, 2 different cpus, and 2 different ram configs on this system

so 47 isn't bad

that's an average of less than 7 crashes per stable oc

[hollow grail]

owo

[earnest olive]

only got OS corruption once out of all of those crashes

[hollow grail]

brum

[earnest olive]

but just sfc/dism was enough didn't need to reinstall

[hollow grail]

:)))))

ugh why is brew so awful

[vagrant olive]

just found out that the mobo i was planning on getting only has one pcie slot

[tame ridge]

what is a good 4k monitor for gaming

[vagrant olive]

that shouldnt be too much of an issue right, all i should be using it for is gpu

[hollow grail]

i prefer more than that

cant wait to install brew again

[earnest olive]

nowadays most builds only use 1 slot

it depends

[forest sky]

Will the 3090 founder edition need a anti gpu sag mount

[hollow grail]

and wait for it to not work

again

[earnest olive]

on if you plan to use something like a pcie wifi card or a raid card

[hollow grail]

i forgot not everyone has a bunch of expansion cards

lol

[jagged ember]

i use my extra one for wifi card

[vagrant olive]

oh yeah i am gonna need wifi

[jagged ember]

and i can use it for more expansion if i want too

[vagrant olive]

aight time to switch my mobo yeehaw

[jagged ember]

i like having the option, at least

[tame ridge]

what is a good 4k monitor for gaming

[hollow grail]

weeeeeeeee

this poor instance

1 core

and 1gb ram

[earnest olive]

i have a vivid memory as a kid at my cousin's place

telling my cousin that his family pc wouldn't be good at running maplestory cause it had 512MB of memory

[obsidian wigeon]

[earnest olive]

mine had 1GB i was ballin

i didn't even know what i was talking about i just saw smaller number lol

was like 7

[jagged ember]

him and his peasant 512mb

[earnest olive]

now my 16gb is considered peasant

[jagged ember]

oh how the turn tables

[earnest olive]

web browsing + spotify + discord

[vagrant olive]

oh wait

aorus lied to me

i think

[obsidian wigeon]

oof, forgot to plug laptop in

[vagrant olive]

this

is 3 pcie slots right?

but only one

is pcie 4

the others are pcie 3?

[obsidian wigeon]

thing has ded batt, turns off during boot

and ye

[jagged ember]

web browsing + spotify + discord

[obsidian wigeon]

the shielded one should be 4

others 3

[jagged ember]

the shiny is pcie 4

non shiny is pcie 3

[vagrant olive]

kk

so i can use

a m.2, gpu, and wifi card

all on this mobo

[earnest olive]

oh hey that's my mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[jagged ember]

2 m.2

but yes

[earnest olive]

it is a good mobo

[vagrant olive]

epiiiiiic

[earnest olive]

you are making a good choice

[obsidian wigeon]

expansion cards exists doe

[jagged ember]

this is true

[earnest olive]

you guys are neglecting to talk about its most important feature

its like you all know nothing about pcs

[obsidian wigeon]

fits way more than 2 nvme drives for sure

[earnest olive]

it has FIVE RGB HEADERS

[jagged ember]

AAAAA

[earnest olive]

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

lots of rgb

[earnest olive]

i am currently running

7 argb fans, 4 rgb strips, rgb water block, and an rgb gpu stand

i still have 1 rgb header left

[jagged ember]

he ends his message there lmao

i am currently running, cya

[vagrant olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pCwfht

insane build

god tier

nothing can be improved

dont @ me

[hollow grail]

Me when the feds find me

[earnest olive]

what if i am running huh

[jagged ember]

you and your petabytes of data

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DAOKOfan/saved/zrJ7XL

you have been @'d

your move.

[jagged ember]

damn

how's he gonna top this

[vagrant olive]

@earnest olive i will take away your rgb

[earnest olive]

NO

[hollow grail]

Omg its going

[jagged ember]

bru

[earnest olive]

you will pry my rgb hard drives from my cold dead hands

[jagged ember]

is it working?

[vagrant olive]

so be it

[jagged ember]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-treason-star-wars-emperor-gif-8547403

[vagrant olive]

me installing rgb i/o shield

[earnest olive]

my rgb NAS

[jagged ember]

i should rgb my nas

[vagrant olive]

i should rgb my iris

[jagged ember]

speaking of, i wanna find a way to access it from outside my home network

without using the web thing

[hollow grail]

unless u wanna open its ports then youre sort of out of luck

and youd need ddns

[jagged ember]

what is ddns

[hollow grail]

dynamic dns

unless you want business internet and to have a static ip

also god bless digitalocean

[vagrant olive]

dance dance nevolution supreme

[hollow grail]

their tutorials are god tier

i do not want to use my brain or my fingers today so im just using their presets

next vps i get will be from them just cause they helped so much

[jagged ember]

i will google tutorials

[hollow grail]

well first off do you have a domain?

[jagged ember]

umm

i'm not sure lol

[vagrant olive]

your ip is 10.0.0.11

[jagged ember]

i assume this has to do with DHCP

[vagrant olive]

😎

[jagged ember]

and the ip address of my router itself

[hollow grail]

sort of

find your nas's public IP

also just telling you in advance

synology is good because you dont have to do all this

you can just use their web portal

and access from there

[jagged ember]

but it's slower than using the uh

windows file thing, no?

[hollow grail]

for network transfers?

wait so like

what are you even doing

you saying you want to be OFF your home lan, and do a file transfer to/from your nas?

[jagged ember]

yeah

[hollow grail]

so like not on the same local network

[idle hawk]

limited manufacturing us cause limited supply

[hollow grail]

id use their tool

the other option is a pain and a half

[jagged ember]

oh, okay

[hollow grail]

and also introduces a bunch of security risks

[stoic star]

@hollow grail oh hai

[hollow grail]

helo

[stoic star]

c:

[hollow grail]

whatcha up to

[stoic star]

🤷‍♂️

[hollow grail]

sad

[stoic star]

but since you're here as well, got a question on NAS options...

[hollow grail]

im getting way too angry at kibana rn

of course :))))

[stoic star]

is it better to go with entire build just for NAS or just get multiple multi-bay docks/enclosures instead? 😄

[hollow grail]

you mean like usb docks?

[weak field]

pst

its 4:20

[amber hamlet]

wht do u think bout the 5600xt?

[smoky pilot]

👍

[obsidian wigeon]

idk, id wait for 3060 lmao

[smoky pilot]

if you could buy it

[tardy delta]

Is this something to worry about?

[weak field]

unless your gonna use more ssds no

[tardy delta]

Can I still have a hdd then?

[little osprey]

yes how much 2.5'' ssd do you have

[tardy delta]

Only 1

[little osprey]

then you could

[tardy delta]

Thank you very much guys! :-)

[little osprey]

NP!

[median horizon]

Quick question

Would anyone here recommend Gigabytes Xtreme products?

[inner mortar]

is i5 9600k a better choice than the ryzen 5 5600x?

mostly for gaming

[median horizon]

Nah

For $100 more, you can get a chip that beats a 10900k. A CPU that costs $320 more then a 9600k

Plus usually AMD mobos are cheaper.

Saves more in the long run imo and gives it some F-wording

[inner mortar]

ahh ok thanks!

so i should stick with the 5600x

[median horizon]

Mhm definitely

[inner mortar]

cool cool

[median horizon]

ALTHOUGH

I’d wait until January

[inner mortar]

oh?

[median horizon]

Mainly because I wanna see what Rocket Lake has, since Intel supposedly can meet the R7 5800X with their eight core chip

It’s all gonna come down to pricing tbh.

[inner mortar]

ah ok

[median horizon]

If Intel meets or even beats them in pricing, something we’ve not seen them do in a while, the cpu competition suddenly becomes 10x more interesting

[inner mortar]

yup

ok thankss

[median horizon]

Definitely

Same for the Radeon 6000 and Ampere 3000

Never rush to buy, let them fight each other and make your choice

[inner mortar]

ye

[median horizon]

Speaking of Radeon

We’re getting the 6900xt in a few days

Interested to see how this launch gets botched

Bots?
Scalpers?
Momentary ip bans?
Horrifyingly thin stock?

What could go wrong

[lusty gazelle]

Any thoughts? 🤔

[inner mortar]

hah yeah

[median horizon]

Remind me uh

Ram speed doesn’t make that much of a difference on Intel correct?

[inner mortar]

yeah ive heard that

[lusty gazelle]

oh really?

[median horizon]

Yeah, on Ryzen it’s crucial

[inner mortar]

not as much a difference it makes on a ryzen system yeah

[stoic island]

I'd rather get 3200c16

Either way

[median horizon]

You could drop your mhz to maybe 3000 for a bit of safety

Saves a lot of money as well.

[stoic island]

Because 3600c19's cas latency in ns is higher than 3200c16

[inner mortar]

^

[median horizon]

If you really wanna save even more, go for Trident Z Neo 3000mhz

[lusty gazelle]

hmm alr i'll change my ram

[lusty gazelle]

how much is that?

[median horizon]

Matches your board a bit better and is significantly cheaper

I think $1000

[stoic island]

Either way just get 3200mhz cl16

[median horizon]

Lemme check.

[stoic island]

Intel like faster ram but not by much

[little osprey]

got myself a 4k monitor

[stoic island]

Nice

[median horizon]

$85

[lusty gazelle]

i was gonna go for a 5800x but they're all sold out everywhere ;/

[lusty gazelle]

oh nice

way cheaper

[stoic island]

@lusty gazelle not for 32gb

[median horizon]

Save money wherever you can, but don’t cut corners y’know

[stoic island]

2x8gb is 85$

2x16gb is much more expensive

[median horizon]

Not many games require 32gb though.

[stoic island]

Their list had 32gb

[lusty gazelle]

that is true

[stoic island]

So I'd match it first

[median horizon]

oh lemme check that

$225, Christ

[stoic island]

Either way, smth like Aegis 3200mhz cl16 2x16gb is usually around 100$ flat

[median horizon]

RGB is the extra $100 lmao

[stoic island]

115
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

[lusty gazelle]

oh nice, alright thank you guys

[median horizon]

The only game I can think of that NEEDS 32gb of ram is Flight Sim

[stoic island]

Cheapest good rgb kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

[median horizon]

But even then your gpu probably doesn’t have enough VRAM for that, so no need for 32 imo

[stoic island]

What

Video editing :p

Ram cache

Vm

[median horizon]

vm

[stoic island]

32gb is nice to have either way, not just for gaming, but some other bits.

[lusty gazelle]

also is this anything to worry about?

[lusty gazelle]

yeah true

[stoic island]

@lusty gazelle I'd change that case and the ssd and the psu

Ignore that warning

It's the Z490 board makers going "yes this mobo supports pcie 4.0, just doesn't have it yet because intel can't put it on their chips for some reason"

[lusty gazelle]

oh lol alr

which case u thinking?

[stoic island]

Td500 mesh maybe

If you want to save a bit of money, MX330-g air

[median horizon]

How much is the mx330?

Oh wow that’s cheap

[lusty gazelle]

$50

[median horizon]

If you want some dust filters and creature comforts in terms of brand reliability

4000d Airflow

[lusty gazelle]

wow that case aint too bad for $80

[median horizon]

Definitely

[stoic island]

I mean

[lusty gazelle]

i was originally gonna go for the Lian li Lancool 2

[stoic island]

There's also Meshify C

But 4000d and Meshify C I'd add another fan in

[median horizon]

I think it won 1 award during GN’s “best cases of the year” and 4-5 nominations for noise, thermals, mechanical design

[stoic island]

4000d got it for design, since Corsair has been crappy

And finally made a good case

[median horizon]

4000d really pulled an ultra instinct

[stoic island]

Sad td500 mesh didn't get an award for airflow, they mentioned it in their best airflow cases of the year tho

[median horizon]

Lowkey

Mesh cases took over the case market the last 2 or so years

[stoic island]

@lusty gazelle lancool ii mesh is good too, lancool ii not as much

[lusty gazelle]

oh alright

[stoic island]

Ssd wise

SATA M.2 SSDs hurt me inside :(

[median horizon]

Wait woah woah woah

Hold on there Athium

Is that a spinning drive in a mid-to-high end system

[lusty gazelle]

wut

[stoic island]

What about it

HDDs are great for mass storage

[median horizon]

Terrible for load times

[stoic island]

Ssd

[median horizon]

And loud, as well as generating temps

[stoic island]

The only thing you use a HDD for nowadays is mass storage

And it's great at mass storage

[lusty gazelle]

Im mainly using my my hdd for a few games and some work stuff. Most of my games are gonna be going into my ssd

[sterile wind]

I personally love my 5400 rpm hdd and its lightning fast load speeds

[stoic island]

Anyways

WD Blue as a M.2 drive is just

no

don't do that

[median horizon]

I use the philosophy of boot SSD and main SSD

[sterile wind]

do i go 500gb m.2 + 2tb barracuda or 1tb m.2?

[stoic island]

SX8200 pro imo @lusty gazelle
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TY2TN64

@sterile wind your choice, 1tb m.2 + storage later on is an option

both are good

[median horizon]

Simple

250gb M.2 and 2tb SATA SSD imo.

Dedicated boot drives are a weak spot for me

[sterile wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[stoic island]

what

[sterile wind]

toughts?

[stoic island]

wrong link

[little osprey]

I spent $240 for 64gb 3200 cl16 rgb ram

[stoic island]

@median horizon tbh I'd just get everything on NVMe >:P

nice

[median horizon]

That’s what I’m doing lmao

[sterile wind]

xDDDD

[median horizon]

Samsung 980 PRO 250GB M.2 2280

2 Sabrent Rocket (TLC) 2 TB models

My current plans for my pc when I actually get the parts and moners

[sterile wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HN4TPV

[stoic island]

lmao okay

[sterile wind]

I forgot to copy

[stoic island]

I have most my stuff on a 960gb mp510 atm

and 2tb barracuda holds my videos and other crap

[median horizon]

Bro I didn’t realize how much cheaper it is to build a well performing pc is compared to last Gen

For “high end” performance you’d need to spend nearly 1700-1800 on a
Ryzen 9 3900 or 3950x/i9 10900k
2080ti

Alone

[stoic island]

I mean

2080ti never needed

2080 super same price point as 3080

3900/3950x/10900k never needed

[median horizon]

Isn’t the 3080 $100 cheaper then the 2080?

[stoic island]

it was 3600/3700x/10600k that would be suggested

nah 2080 super was 700$ for the longest time

[median horizon]

Ah

[lusty gazelle]

Is the Asus Rog Strix 3080 a good 3080?

[median horizon]

YES

Arguably one of the better ones

But I’d buy a tuf

[deep skiff]

good sure expensive vs other 3080s yeah

but $$$

[median horizon]

Tuf or Tuf OC, max price difference is $50

[stoic island]

any 3080 you get your hands on is good

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[median horizon]

But now for high end performance just spend $700 on GPU and CPU lmfao

R5 5600X and 3060ti

[inner mortar]

Segate or Western Digital?

[median horizon]

Sea gate

[stoic island]

@median horizon I mean, remember, 3600+5700xt was high end performance

that's 600$ on cpu and gpu

[worthy plank]

Can anyone help me out with trouble shooting my new build
Dram led lights up with no post

[stoic island]

@worthy plank reset cmos

[worthy plank]

Tried that not working

[inner mortar]

is ur ram seated correctly

[median horizon]

I mean remember, for $100 performance you’re getting incredible uplifts

[worthy plank]

Yes, tried all the configurations

[stoic island]

Reseat ram, single stick in slot 2, and take the other stick out

[inner mortar]

^

[worthy plank]

Tried that too

No idea what's happening

[stoic island]

reseat CPU

[worthy plank]

Ram works fine on other computer. I did reseat the cpu thrice, no bent pins or anything

[stoic island]

more about cpu bad contact but yea

[worthy plank]

I'm just hoping it's a motherboard issue because 5600x is very hard to find

Cpu bad contact with motherboard?

[stoic island]

yea, that's what reseating CPU is supposed to help with

[inner mortar]

is the cpu 8 pin plugged in

[stoic island]

but if you already did it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic jungle]

reseat windows 10

honestly tho? i wish there was a windows 10 that wasn't bloatware.

[stoic island]

I mean

go to forky

he strips win10 for OCing

he can prob point you towards a guide or smth

[inner mortar]

whats OCing?

also what do you guys think about firecuda?

^HDD/SSD hybrid

[thorny tusk]

Overclocking is increasing the clock speeds of your parts

[inner mortar]

ahh right

[thorny tusk]

It's risky

[gleaming quartz]

as long as you know you're prepared for it, it's worth trying

[thorny tusk]

Depends

On the cpu

[gleaming quartz]

true

thats kind of what i mean

[thorny tusk]

And the board it's usually not worth it unless you intend for the beginning

[gleaming quartz]

or fear for the longevity of your system

[thorny tusk]

Yep

[little osprey]

It's a gimmick and not worthy

[obsidian wigeon]

overclocking isn't risky if you try to oc without increasing voltage kek

or be mild about it

[rigid portal]

Should I be concerned if I can't find my RAM type I'm trying to use on a QVL list for my mobo?

I'm trying to use a G.SKILL Trident Z 16x2 (32GB) RAM for my ASUS PRIME X570-PRO

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

It should work

[rigid portal]

Hmm

Okie thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

QVL list is the stuff they tested themselves

[rigid portal]

Aight aight

I can't POST my new pc so I'm trying to find the problem

It's telling me it's DRAM problem but I can't find the solution at all

[obsidian wigeon]

Hmm, well.. the ram could be defective.

[jagged ember]

try reseating both sticks

if that doesn't work, try the two other slots

[obsidian wigeon]

Or you can try removing CMOS battery then put it back in

[rigid portal]

Perhaps, Imma try to get new cheap ram when I get more money

[jagged ember]

if it fails, boot with one stick

[rigid portal]

I've tried that already but it doesn't seem towork either

[jagged ember]

but, reset the cmos first

[rigid portal]

This too

But I'm not sure if I'm even resetting the CMOS right lmao

I don't have a jumper so I have to do it with a screwdriver lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

Well, you can pull CMOS batt out

Wait 10 sec and put it back in

[jagged ember]

batt is best strat

[rigid portal]

Aight aight

[jagged ember]

i'd wait up to a minute myself

[rigid portal]

I will try that

[jagged ember]

just to be sure lol

[rigid portal]

I will give it a min

[obsidian wigeon]

A minute doesn't hurt, yah

[jagged ember]

double check if the cmos battery has a latch or not on it

brute force with a screwdriver ain't always the best solution

[rigid portal]

So yeah CMOS thing didn’t work

[hearty kestrel]

hi all, new to discord so may be the wrong place for this message but im trying to get a list of the components used in this build i just bought so i can buy some extra RAM and an M2 - any help would be awesome! ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i7 9700F - GeForce RTX 3060 Ti - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB SSD

[obsidian wigeon]

Whelp, either ram or mobo's slots could be dead

Gotta test with a cheap stick lmao

[wide heron]

i need help making a pc that is under 2200 dollars, has a rtx 2070 super or better, and has a monitor with it

[rigid portal]

Yeah, Imma get some once I can get my next paycheque

[wide heron]

i need help making a pc that is under 2200 dollars, has a rtx 2070 super or better, and has a monitor with it

[shadow stirrup]

anyone know what is a good pcie card adaptor for mine 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD 1TB. the new desktop i bought the alieware r11 only comes with one slot for it

[empty silo]

Omg I have a OMEN by HP Obelisk Desktop PC - 875-0014 Product Specifications and want to know if I can put a i9 9900k in it it’s a pre built please no hate 😦

[wide heron]

i hate

jk

[thorny tusk]

What you doing with the pc

[night gull]

hey guys i am a bit new around here. What the is the best CPU, GPU , MOBO COMBO WOULD BE FOR A BUDGET FOR $600?

[quasi snow]

@wide heron how long can you wait for 3000 series stock?

[obsidian wigeon]

@night gull you in the us, right?

or ca

[night gull]

yep!

US

[obsidian wigeon]

oh good

lemme grab pcpp

lmfao

somehow 3700X is CHEAPER than 3600

pog

but it's not gonna be in 600 bucks budget

[quasi snow]

@night gull the whole computer is 600 or the mobo cpu gpu is 600?

[night gull]

mobo cpu gpu is 600. i am looking just to upgrade my current prebuilt

[thorny tusk]

It's a intel cpu on that bugget

[quasi snow]

atx or microatx?

[night gull]

Intel preferably just because I know intel more lol

[thorny tusk]

Intel's better on low budget

Less the 800

[night gull]

thats works perfect then

[thorny tusk]

I work recommend the 3600 amd but you can't find those for a good price

[night gull]

is that intel?

[thorny tusk]

No amd

[night gull]

is there an intel that fits budget?

[thorny tusk]

Yes

I think the I 5

[vital warren]

i5 10400 probably

[thorny tusk]

I'm not versed in intel cpu

[night gull]

i currently have the i58400

[thorny tusk]

Also is it 600 for ever part

[obsidian wigeon]

man the gpus are overpriced

can't fit a gpu in there

without shooting over 600

[thorny tusk]

Amd low level ones are

[night gull]

600 for all of them i was thinking.

[obsidian wigeon]

I tried intel

I suggest upgrading what you have tbh

[worn cedar]

augh augh the gpu im gonna get is gonna bottleneck my cpu lol

[night gull]

i am upgrading my current prebuilt

part by part

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh prebuilt

Which model? So I can plan you a case, I suppose

[thorny tusk]

Joey what is the current parts

[obsidian wigeon]

If it's mATX

[wide heron]

longer than you think, ill give it 2-3 months

[worn cedar]

ayo is the founders edition of the 3060ti bad?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

it's good

[wide heron]

3060 is good

[obsidian wigeon]

just doesn't look good to me

[worn cedar]

i heard founders edition has weaker cooling

[obsidian wigeon]

the grey on it is too bright to me lmao

nah, 3000 series has good ref

[wide heron]

bruh the color

lol

[thorny tusk]

It's important

[night gull]

My current specs are

CPU: Intel Core i5 8400
GPU: GeForce GTX 1060 6 gb
RAM: 16 gb
MoBo: B360

[sinful hornet]

Ok

[thorny tusk]

What power supply

[obsidian wigeon]

tell me this doesn't look ugly

lmao

[night gull]

idk lol

how can i tell

[sinful hornet]

Just bend it behind

[vital warren]

it looks nice

[sinful hornet]

Then it’s mostly hidden

[vital warren]

and there's other aftermarket models generally at msrp so just get one of those lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i dunno, seems bright to me

[thorny tusk]

Do you know the watage

[night gull]

is that the big number on the side?

[worn cedar]

its not that bad

[thorny tusk]

Probably

[night gull]

the big number on the side is 600

[obsidian wigeon]

i can bear with it

but like

there's aibs that looks better to my eyes

that costs the same

[thorny tusk]

You could paint it

[sinful hornet]

Or anodize it

[little osprey]

Is Logitech g203 good

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah

[little osprey]

Ok

[near garden]

I want to get a 3060ti

[gleaming quartz]

why does this exist

[obsidian wigeon]

idk

[near garden]

When they coming back ?

[gleaming quartz]

its a male-male connector

[obsidian wigeon]

2021

Also that's 12 pin to 6 pin

[near garden]

September?

[obsidian wigeon]

Maybe march

Least that's what Nvidia said

[near garden]

Idk what to do I was going to get a 3060ti but now I don’t know what to put on my build

Ima wait it out on the gpu

[rigid portal]

@near garden Follow stockdrops on twitter for notifications

Regarding the restocks of various gpus

That’s the only trick I know ツ

[near garden]

Is it botrtx

[rigid portal]

yeet

[thorny tusk]

Just give up

[rigid portal]

Don’t

I got mine so 😂

[near garden]

Alr ty

[near garden]

For how much ?

[little osprey]

bestbuy had a bunch of 3060tis

[rigid portal]

It’s in CAD so it’s a but more expensive but for about $800 without tax

Excluding warranty and shipping an such

[little osprey]

I think like 6 or 7 of us managed to buy one online

@little osprey way more then that

[near garden]

Alr I joined there discord server

Ty @rigid portal

[rigid portal]

Np

[oak inlet]

hey can someone help me find the plastic keepers you snap onto the rgb plugs so they don't come apart? Thanks

[wanton cliff]

4.5k for a build. Anything I got wrong?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GpDHRT

Gaming, streaming, Vtubing

[fair birch]

for that case you need 3 more fans

it looks nice but its pretty annoying

also for those parts id go for a case with better airflow

[wanton cliff]

like?

[quasi snow]

at that price you might as well get a pcie 4.0 drive imo

[fair birch]

Meshify 2

[wanton cliff]

i already have drives

[fair birch]

P500

[quasi snow]

oh okay

[fair birch]

Lancool II

P400

lemme send you a few links

[wanton cliff]

what about p400a digital?

[fair birch]

thats good

just watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMNu0gWlZw

[wanton cliff]

how many fans with the EK-AIO?

[fair birch]

the p400a is also good though

[fair birch]

huh?

wait no not that video

[quasi snow]

the aio you put in has 3 fans

[fair birch]

yeah

its good

altough if youre not prioritizing rgb then get the Ice Giant Prosiphon Elit

Elite

Its a threadripper cooler but at the same price as that one

[wanton cliff]

I like RGB

[balmy patio]

or you can get the liquid freezer ii, the 360 one

[fair birch]

ok

[wanton cliff]

so the fans I have are good for a p400a?

[fair birch]

@wanton cliff watch this video for the case

[balmy patio]

if you're getting the digital one you won't need any fans

[fair birch]

yeah you will

the exhaust

and on the bottom too if you have a 4.5k budget LOL

and yeah the fans are good

[balmy patio]

no you won't

if you mount the aio on the front

the three fans that came with the p400a digital can be exhaust

[fair birch]

but you should mount it on top

thay have a 4.5k budget

[balmy patio]

i don't think you can fit a 360mm on top

at least with that case

[fair birch]

lemme check

[runic wraith]

Question, what should I use for a GPU brace? Does it matter? I would like to hold up 2x 3090s. Airflow, I don't have liquidcooling due to temperature issues/freezing

[balmy patio]

ahhh

3090 man

[wanton cliff]

Oh yeah thats another thing: does thestrix 3090 need a brace??

[balmy patio]

make sure that you screw in the gpu's, if you notice that it's sagging, buy a brace, if you don't notice anything then you shouldn't be worried

[fair birch]

yes it fits on top

[balmy patio]

but then again it's better to be safe then sorry but i don't know anything about braces

[fair birch]

the 360mm cooler fits on top

[balmy patio]

with the p400a digital?

[fair birch]

yeah

i think you can even fit a 460mm

but thats too much

theres a 470mm total gap so probably like 420mm of space at least

[severe axle]

no

[night iron]

Did your pc really catch fire? @opal zinc

[runic wraith]

should I ask in the graphics-cards section? @balmy patio

[fair birch]

oh ok

still fits a 360mm though

[balmy patio]

and the third fan won't be able to breathe

and the third fan won't be able to breathe

cuz there's only exhaust available for two fans on the top

[wanton cliff]

do I need to worry abt ram voltage stuff with a 5950x and 4x32gb TridentZ Neo (3600 CL16)?

[balmy patio]

pretty sure the mobo will lower the voltage, which will also make it perform less

you can manually go back to bios i'm pretty sure and make the voltage higher

[wanton cliff]

lit

[runic wraith]

what screws are computer screws? If I need a longer screw to go through a brace and a GPU?

[next kestrel]

the screws that come with the case

[jagged ember]

why would you want anything directly through your gpu?

[iron needle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/frvtQD

anyone think i could make this abit cheaper with the same quality of stuff?

[vagrant olive]

i like ur mobo

[iron needle]

maybe include a little rgb

Thanks

[vagrant olive]

yea gimme a minute

[iron needle]

I had the same one just micro atx

Thanks

[vagrant olive]

do u want the ram rgb or budget option

[iron needle]

Doesn’t make sense to put a micro into a reg atx case

Is the rgb more cost wise

[vagrant olive]

no

[severe axle]

rgb will cost more on ram

[iron needle]

I wanna go lower for same quality if I could

[vagrant olive]

kk

[balmy patio]

750w psu for that system

dang

[vagrant olive]

ik

@iron needle are you planning to upgrade it?

650w would be better for your system in its currentr state

[iron needle]

yes

[vagrant olive]

kk

[iron needle]

later on in life maybe a year or two

[vagrant olive]

btw are u buying ur parts soon or not for another few months

bc prices always spike up during the hoildays

[balmy patio]

yeah

and i think crucial has 3600cl16 rgb ram for 80 bucks or so

[vagrant olive]

thats what i gave him

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x8B3Hz

[iron needle]

i wanna get it by christmas atleast

[vagrant olive]

i left the psu the same bc im not gonna bother trying to change that

idk what is going on with the psu price fluctuation

[balmy patio]

lemme see if i can make it cheaper

[vagrant olive]

all i did was change the ram to be $5 cheaper for higher speed and less latency

[balmy patio]

@iron needle do you care about psu modularity

[iron needle]

i would like it to be semi please

[balmy patio]

okok

and you want at least 750w, correct?

[iron needle]

yes please

[wanton cliff]

is it morally OK to set up bots for the 5950x and 3090 so that I can get them before scalpers?

[iron needle]

yes

[wanton cliff]

im not going to scalp

[iron needle]

absolutely

[wanton cliff]

ok good

gonna need a second opinion tho

[iron needle]

screw scalpers

[next kestrel]

go ahead, as long as you're only getting what you need

you shouldnt put yourself at a moral highground if you're making less of a profit, because its still a profit

[balmy patio]

@iron needle there's this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4pThK3

[iron needle]

thanks

[balmy patio]

if you want a gold efficiency rating psu, get a rosewill capstone or silverstone essential, which are pretty cheap and top tier in the psu tier list

[iron needle]

what does gold and bronze even mean

[stoic island]

@balmy patio btw the regular capstone is tier B

It's some special version of it that's tier A

[iron needle]

nvm im under budget

its at 1095 with case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g9gWfP

[weak field]

is that bar?

[balmy patio]

wait what's your budget

[weak field]

bad

to be under budget?

[balmy patio]

kermit has spoken

[thorny tusk]

Not really

[iron needle]

1100

[thorny tusk]

Kermit

[balmy patio]

ahhh 1100

i think i've got a list

[wanton cliff]

3.5k gaming budget, everyone make a build, go!

[iron needle]

very close too the budget

[weak field]

aha aha

[thorny tusk]

Why 3.5k

[weak field]

3500

[wanton cliff]

because thats my budget

[weak field]

buy a cqr

[wanton cliff]

excepting drives

[weak field]

car

buy one instead

[thorny tusk]

How long are you waiting

[wanton cliff]

not quite old enough to drive yet

not where I live

[weak field]

then save up

then you can spend more on the the car when your old enough

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kjmc4d @iron needle

[iron needle]

k

[warm axle]

can I get a rate on this build?

[thorny tusk]

Ye

[weak field]

yes.

[stoic island]

@balmy patio CXm coil whine

Other than that fine

[warm axle]

I may buy it when prices are lower so ignore my budget and the prices

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jmbgz7

[weak field]

yes

joe sent one

[iron needle]

I musnt i will stick to my build thank you thought @balmy patio

[balmy patio]

ah yes, forgot about that, let me change it a little bit

[thorny tusk]

It's good if you're not going to buy

Now

@warm axle

[warm axle]

I'm thinking when the r5 3600 goes to 200 I go

I'm patient enough to slowly gather the parts

[thorny tusk]

Ye if your going for now the 3700 cheaper

[warm axle]

ye

[wanton cliff]

still baffles me that an 8 core 16 thread cpu is cheaper than a 6 core 12 thread on the same process node and everything

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff ask Intel

They're masters of milking 14nm node

[wanton cliff]

this isnt shintel's price gouging or anything like that tho

this is supply and demand

[hasty gyro]

Core i5 10600k vs 9600k?

[thorny tusk]

Na intel did not have computation till this year

They had been riding one train for two long

[kind skiff]

sorry no selling

[stoic island]

No selling :p

[kind skiff]

o thanks ill remove

[little osprey]

What is the best mouse

You can buy

[drifting scaffold]

Alright, which one of you did this?

[severe axle]

depends on what you mean by best

[iron needle]

now that thats hot

[stoic island]

Lol

[hoary lichen]

Any tips for this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfxJt8

[stoic island]

What the hell is that

[severe axle]

more mouse buttons? wireless charging? long battery life?

[hoary lichen]

Budget is 1.5 or 2k

[stoic island]

@drifting scaffold I like that ziptie

[iron needle]

why do you have a 650

[stoic island]

@little osprey meh, general consensus right now is probably something like a MOW

[iron needle]

you need atleast an 800 watyt

[hoary lichen]

🗿

[stoic island]

What

[hoary lichen]

Thats 2x the wattage

[iron needle]

ik

[stoic island]

@iron needle what about no

[iron needle]

y

[hoary lichen]

I only need 1.5 times the wattage

🗿

[iron needle]

how about at least 750

[severe axle]

the aio at that price should include thermal paste

[stoic island]

What

Why

[hoary lichen]

I mean idk

[iron needle]

its running at 414

[stoic island]

Like a 300w PL for the card and let's say 100w PL for the chip

Doesn't being it over 550w

[drifting scaffold]

I like being safe, so I usually overspec PSU

[iron needle]

me too

[stoic island]

Where's the "at least 750w" coming from

When does it ever draw that much

[hoary lichen]

Can anyone edit the list to make it better

[severe axle]

I feel like for $1600 you might be able to get a 3080

[stoic island]

I'm on mobile

[hoary lichen]

Budget is 1.5k to 2k

[iron needle]

over clocking plus alittle extra