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Jesus christ
yeah 650+
ok
i wasnt sure
600 watts if you are not going to overclock
but its only $6 so i was gonna get it just in case
bruh case fan for 30 dollars damn
More if you are
550 is fine overclocked for that build
It would be cutting it close
i'd still rather have 600-650 for upgrade headroom
so i thought 550 would be ok
Exactly
but 550 still has quite a bit of headroom if no upgrades are planned
sucks that all the r5 are overpriced and out of stock rn
i wasnt planning on upgrading for a while
like
a while being at least a year and a hafl
i wonder if 650w is enough for my build...
I mean I have a 600W gold PSU for an R5 2600 and RX 590 so........
peak power draw would maybe be 420W under full synthetic cpu and gpu load
Nice
@median acorn your build draws practically the same power as a 5600X + 3060ti
so..
yeah the next gen stuff is super optimized
RX 590 is a hungy boi
It was May of this year
anyways
for 330 you can get a rx5600
Noice
that 550W psu will be more than fine if you're not planning to upgrade to a 4090 or something
it's an RMx so it's a lot better than your average 550W
bruh
That's a good combo but I think AMD offers better options like the R3 3100
eh
R3 3100 is a lot more expensive than a 9100f
Yeah right now
The 3100 was like 110 bucks when it came out
Now its overpriced
actually right now the R3 3100 is infinitely more expensive because it's not in stock anywhere
can y'all check my build
Yep big sad
please do not pay $210 for a 2600 lol
nah i already have the cpu
you also seriously do not need an X570 board
someone gave it to me
already got the motherboard
84 DOLLARS FOR A BRONZE

case is bad
yes
psu has coil whine issues
yeah um x570 is overkill for the build
case is arriving soon 
ssd is meh
refund case?
so no graphics card?
you could get a better team mp34 for similar price
why ask after buying? i don't get it
ask before buying, or just buy and enjoy your build

also you need some fans
bro
no
oh i already got the fans
adding fans to an nzxt h510 can actually be detrimental
lol i dont only do gaming, im gonna work on some other stuff on the pc
everyone always reverts to the h510 as a starter case buts its just bad
its design does not work well with traditional airflow
You should be fine
you shouldve gotten more storage
it only works with negative pressure
hmm ok
since you do other stuff
nr600 it is then
storage is always easily upgradeable
yeah
and an external 2tb ssd
@worn cedar Here's what I suggest. Buy a B550 mobo instead and try to find an R5 3600
but i already bought the mobo
ye


its already at home
my friend told me to get the x570 and i ended up getting it
Ah all good
they have the same board and they like it
going with a $190 x570 for that build is a bit like putting race car wheels on a prius
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LMAO
LMFAOO
Ok well if you can afford, go R5 3600
The 2600 isn't that terrible
for gpu i was thinking the 3060ti but now im not sure..
hmm
i also have the cpu lol
what games do you play
OOF
i have everything but the gpu
thats what matters
well i got the cpu for free
never said it was terrible
i wont mind upgrading it later on
and the 3060 ti sometimes is faulty
well
what games do you play
i drive a prius
that truly depends lol
it's a fantastic daily driver
i play what my friends want me to play
ain't entering any street races with it
hmm

but what i used to play was apex, valorant, and phasmophobia
idrc about ray tracing so i might never use that
20 series cards are overpriced rn
all cards are overpriced rn
3060 also going for 400
Are those used prices?

Never buy used GPUs
it was on bestbuy
yeah 3060ti is a competitor to the 2080s
i really should've asked here before buying everything
but i only found out about this server after i bought everything
The 3060 ti is on par with the 2080 Super and can compete with the ti but it doesn't beat it
bro is masssive
oh right i was remembering wrong sry
lowkey anxious now
what if my build doesnt work
hmm
PREEUS
it will work
Yeah it will work for sure
its gonna work just that it couldve been a better build imo
You will have a lot of OC headroom too if you are into that stuff
have fun trying to find a 3060ti in stock though
Ill say go for the RTX quadro 8000
no
hopefully a few months should let prices go down a bit
its my first build so i dont really expect it to be the best
Ill say go for the RTX quadro 8000

It will be better than mine LOL
yeha im building for the first time, trying to get the best stuff for a somewhat good price
bru
if my friend hadnt warned me
i think im paying too much for mobo
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idk good prices for parts
$170
@worn cedar The Ampere cards won't be in proper stock until late Q1 of 2021 and maybe even early Q2
should i get something less expensive
so i trusted pcpp
POG
whats that
pcpp is my religion
when kids who play fortnite
Reason: Bad word usage
30 series
LOL
also this note gets me worried
Note:The Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.
tomo
Depends on what you do
3070 is fine then
And do you need the processing power of the 5600x?
great gaming cpu and fits budget
Ok
Ewwww wtf
also whats the difference between RTX series and RX 5000 series
Why so much ram
like which is better
amd fanboys crawling out of their caves to
and made a random list
10900k is good still
harass anyone who likes intel
with a lot of money
@hollow veldt WHY SO MUCH RAM THOO???
also just couldve gone with one pack of 4x8 ram instead of two 2x8. lol
OK
AND MY FRIEND SAID INTEL IS FOR OFFICE USE AND AMD IS FOR GAMING
other way around
my cousin trying to build a pc with a 32 core cpu ๐ญ
like dang bro what u need so much for
Yeah Intel has better single core preformance which is better for gaming but like AMD aren't far off
i know i have to update my bios
no
What CPU??
ohdang
zen 3 ig
5600x
yeup
Then it needs a bios update before you can use it
Ah ok
yea
i mean the notif is not wrong thats why its there
nice
thats fine
stealth wraith cooler is apparently good enough to handle it
but for overclocking
u probably need a better one
i dont plan to OC if i run good frames
Guys make sure you get/have mechanical keyboards because I have a Razer Cynosa Chroma and its bad for typing and average for gaming
corsair keyboards epic
Yeah
i think the 5600x is the only zen 3 cpu that comes with a stock cooler, right?
i got corsair membrane keyboard
When they are on sale
yes atom
Yes I think so
yeah
Yes
tes
Yes
W
That is a GPU intensive load tho
It should come with some fans lol
nzxt makes bank off their h510
But you should get some just in case
yeup
even tho its a bad case for airflow
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Too many infractions
@median acorn no
F
F
I once found this nocta cooler
P12 is the newer and better generation
me when anti swearing
Oh rlly? Nice
with 120CF and 40db noise
thats pretty standard for cpu coolers
Next is ban
CFM is hard to compare between products anyways
it isnt a cpu cooler tho lol
Oh industrial ippc fan then
Meh
Most of em are like 60cfm at like 26dba or smth, can't be bothered to check tbh
I just read up on the fan and the P12 is pressure optimized and the F12 is airflow optimized. So you use the P12 for water cooling and tight spaces and the F12 for airflow
@median acorn p12 is the newer generation either way
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i was gonna get a
And iirc improvements in the motor
OOOFFF
Lol
so i had to pick up one from best buy
750 is pretty overkill for your build tbh
I mean depends
i thought it was aight
people were tellingme to get a 1k w
i was like nahhh
it my first build so i went around asking friends
If @worn cedar wants to OC or upgrade later down the line 750 isn't bad if he isnt over paying
For 750?
750 watts??
A 750 gold should run you 100
Mine is 84$
Yeah not bad
but also 650w is enough for his build
Right
yeah
750w 80+ bronze cost me 80$
i dont really plan to Oc either
bruhh
It depends when you buy bro
then why tf the one that got cancelled was $152
Right now PSUs are hella inflated
Ik its called powerspec
corsair psu
i think i spent unnecessary money on this pc
even tho i was trying to make it budget

Lol
I mean the motherboard was the main thing that was unnecissary
The rest I can justify
yeah an x570 
Due to the prices rn
i was gonna get b550 but
the prices were too high
first one that showed up was like $220
Yeah makes sense
so i was like hell nahh
Now they are 100
what
btw
yeah you shouldve waited
Did you get ur pc on black Friday?
anyone know if my GPU is going to be good enough to do 120hz on an Index?
Then they probably went out of stock
before black friday b550 boards were under 200
b550
Ye cuz its cheaper now
dang
yep
i really shouldbe waited
gonna keep all this in mind if i upgrade or make a new build
5700xt at what rez?
It won't do 1440 at 120 fps I don't think
I should get close
Depending on the game
this is my build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bB3sp2
lowkey just miss playing apex so when i finish this pc first thing im playing is apex
i remember trying to play apex on my gaming laptop and it ruined the motherboard
And thats what really matters
its not true 1440, just 1600x1440
and most VR games dont have a high poly count anyways
What you do on the PC
well
So quit worrying about what you bought lol
i havent been gaming much cuz i dont got much time honestly but
what i play is apex, valorant, and phasmophobia mostly
nice.
OHH VR
new game that doesnt require a beefy computer at all
Idk about VR
ok
You should be fine though
know any good servers?
also even tho im getting a medium grade pc
to ask?
i dont have a good monitor yet
my monitor hz is 60 
specifically, sapphire
oh
what games on what headset?
Lol mine is a 75 HZ
my laptop gonna have a better monitor than my build pc
He's got the Rift if I'm not mistaken
Or maybe the Go
Idk
But he plans on getting rid of it soon becasue of Facebook lol
yeah
Index backorders are getting faster
he should get one if he has 1.1k in the bank
lmao ok
dang been nearly a year since i last played apex
my laptop got all faulty cuz of it ngl
Oof
a headset (and base stations, controllers) worth more than my original PC XD
idk what went wrong but it started to turn off by itself ๐
LOL
Dang
What monitor do you have for your PC
?
1080p?
yeah
Jesus christ
You need a better monitor for a 3060 ti
It will barely break a sweat
1080p@240?
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i plan on getting a predator monitor
no i mean for the better monitor
but i gotta wait cuz
I mean you don't have to go overkill
144hz is fine
i thought 144hz would be better for a 3060
1440p@144 is good
I know from experience
for a 5700xt, that is
but in general it looks nice
3060 gonna have to deal with 1080@60 for a while 

at least you know you can do max settings
whats a good monitor for a 1660 super?
what if you game on a projector
the latency 
thats like 30hz lmao
except for Project Ariana
Yeah 1080p at 120Hz or 144
idk the specs on the ariana but its supposed to be ok~
120 and 144 cost the same
LMAO WHAT!
alright thank you guys
Oh ok get 144
yyeaaah
some friends of mine played their ps3/4 on a projector
Lol
@worn cedar https://us.aoc.com/en/gaming-monitors/cq27g1
These bois are nice
I think you can find them for 269 sometimes
how do u revive a monitor
it was a really good monitor
LMAO
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anyone know how RDNA2 is doing with ray tracing?
SHEET
numberS?
@median acorn is that monitor overkill for the 3060?
Go 3080
if not then i might go for it
No not really
cuz idk none about monitors
The AOC?
yeah
maybe I should wait for the 3080ti if it is going to exist
It's a little overkill with the hertz but if you can find it for 300 or below thats a good deal
I did just drop 1k on an index so we will see
welp
I mean the 3080 is still a CRAZY GOOD card but suit yourself lol
time to wait another month or so
Lol why?
gotta save up ๐
yeah but i want that GOOD FPS with my FoRtNiTe
Might as well get a 3090 because Fortnite is such a demanding game
Ah
Ok
This is again on the expensive side
Heres the thing
If you can get a ViewSonic, LG, AOC, or BenQ 1440p monitor with a good refresh rate for cheap then get it
Those are the only brands I trust
What about Acer?
LG and ViewSonic mainly
But there is a reason it's cheap
what is it
Check out the reviews and make sure it is a quality product
4.3 out of 5
LOL
This is the worst product as far as being user friendly. I could not get the settings out of Racing Mode. When I did run a movie I noticed that some pixels were out. Contacted Asus tech support did a reset all still nothing. Returned..
bro played on racing mode the whole time
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Not sure if I got a defective unit or what but this monitor was pretty bad considering the price and the brand. I ended up returning it because the response time was bad.. there was a noticeable ghosting effect which was worse than my 6 year old Acer GN246HL 24" 144hz that I am trying to upgrade. MRPT mode didn't make any difference and decreased the brightness substantially (somebody else in the review section mentioned this and I second that). I can't comprehend how companies can make products like this in 2020 and charge this much.
The user guide states this is a 4ms (Gray to Gray), 1ms MPRT - Too bad nobody mentioned 4ms in the product description - Hello?! These companies need to be sued for false advertising.
This is a review btw
See?
4MS?!
everything has bad reviews....
LOL ASUS IS TRIPPING
There's a reason I prefer LG and ViewSonic
LG makes TVs
They know what they are doing
The only thing Asus is good at is motherboards
That's it
Their laptops are notibaly terrible as well
if you need 1440p, gigabyte has decent options around 300
yeah my laptop is asus
Yes
lol
Yeah and hows that going for you??
Asus ROG laptop failed me
it couldnt handle apex despite its spec
As well as acer
Yep
@earnest olive I thought b460 motherboards never had the xmp function?
i never heard of viewsonic
@median acorn Hey can I please ask you a question
They make TVs and monitors
@median acorn I built my pc but my middle front panel fan isnโt working. I have two other front panel fans. a back one and a fan cpu cooler. And my graphics card has two integrated fans. Will the loss of my middle front fan affect my performance or no?
Yeah Viewsonic make POG products for POG prices
Hmmm
Iโm confused I have fans each of them have 2 wires one of them goes into your mobo which o plugged into a splitter and the other ones idk so where does that one go
Try to check the connections
@grim pagoda you can enable xmp on b460 it just won't go higher than 2666
y'all wanna check the build my cousin is planning??
You should be able to daisy chain them together @grim pagoda
i've done a b460 build before, i turned on xmp and it just activated and set ram speed to 2666 instead of 3200
@earnest olive oh ok thanks
@median acorn no the fan doesnโt work
On the middle
But Iโm wandering if it will affect any cooling or anything
Yeah it shouldn't
This is my build
Nice
So ye I have the one back fan,
3 front fans
And a fan cpu cooler
Hmmm
I would try to fix that front fan first
If not then you should be fine
As long as the GPU is getting air
@worn cedar This is my monitor
@worn cedar ViewSonic have been making monitor since CRT
They know a thing or two
Lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyBHRT my cousin wanting to build this
not bad
for a 75hz not bad
Almost perfect reviews
my cousin hella into asus monitors guess i gotta warn him ๐
And like I said, LG and ViewSonic have been making monitors since the CRT days
I mean they aren't gonna explode but yeah if he can chose something else please tell him to do so
WHY TF IS HE ONLY GETTING 1080P??!!
@median acorn Would I just be able to buy a single fan and put that in or does it have to be like the same fan
he doesnt know about monitors that much either
Doesn't matter the fan
Just try and make sure the one thats in isn't unplugged or anything
Make sure that man gets a 1440p monitor at the minimum with at least a 144 hz refresh rate
He should actually go 4k
4k?
I made sure it was plugged in the hub, but idk how to check the other end as the wires just go straight into the fan
hmm
But 1440 is still fine
LMAO
Hmm
I got told my build could run 1440p but I wasnโt sure so just got a 1080p
Make sure they are all getting power
idk if mine can run 1440
Yes it will
it can?
At 120 fps at least
thats not bad
hey so I've been trying to avoid prebuilds while looking into my pc just because I've heard few horror stories. if i ended up having to go with prebuilt what companies/models would you guys recommend?
i dont like playing on max settings either
so
my settings always on custom
prebuild hmmm
i never bought a prebuilt pc
only gaming laptops ๐
Yeah so if you mix your settings that 3060 ti will get you 110-130 fps on 1440p
You have to remember a 3060 ti is a 2080 super
after 2 years of using it, a few months ago the fan broke and i had to replace it
But better
c ya phantom
Haha when I built my pc I thought I want going to fit my graphics card as my case is so small but luckily it did
im still waiting for my case to arrive
and i gotta buy my gpu
i hope 3060ti prices doesnt inflate
if it does i might have to buy a 1660 super 
@worn cedar would you of not been better looking for that stuff during cyber Monday or Black Friday?
Oh
@worn cedar whatโs your build
Newegg better restock them 3060tis without combos
i didnt add anything like case fans in this link
i lost my original build link
its not the best build but at least it works
oh damn
oh yeah, did you get your m.2 installed right?
is it wobbly still loll
Little bit but i have the m.2 armor on there so idc
oh
I hope itll be ok
tbh cable management is the hardest/longest part
Well im on the front panel connectors rn
ah
uh
you know u can use that area
next to the front case fans
as cable management right
like you can thread the cables through there
I was thinking of unplugging some and putting thru there tmr
I was going to bc itll look better
it doesnt look like your psu is in yet, and idk how big yours is but it might take up the space where that big gap is
Its not
Yah ill reroute my wires
lets say i theoretically get my psu sometime before sunday, or on sunday. Do i still build what i can without my cpu and gpu?
i just cant stop thinking about it with all the components like just... right there...
Why do they restock in combos
That psu is way too low for those parts
That PSU is gonna be real interesting
Why combos smh
psu go boom boom
So sad
Use pcpartpicker.com
You should get an 850 or 1000 watt power supply for that
yeah
Probably 1000
and a 3090 is not going to be easily obtained at a reasonable price
With a build like that I'm guessing money isn't a huge limiting factor
true
if hes goign for next gen stuff they should probably get one of the zen 3 cpus but
his build
are there always this many giveaways going on? it feels like every tech company/youtuber is doing 3 giveaways each
It is almost Christmas
Yes
then... whats the list for?
Lmao

troll ?
Lmaooo
Wat are you even doing
uhh
Reason: Bad word usage
U can work at McDonalds at like 14
^
Smh not that easy
or u can make money as a degenerate like me and play minecraft and sell block game items
i only usually get like, 4-7 hours a month but...
i have a couple hundred dollars saved up in my bank rn just from a month or two of doing that
Lol
p
p
Lol
itssok mate
I got a lot of pc parts i thought id never get
im in the same situation i got a good amount of money saved up from all my birthdays and holidays since i was born lol so i can build a pc
but after i build it im gonna have like 0 dollars
so i need a job haha
my parents are cool and im getting it as a like
birthday and christmas combined kinda thing
and im paying for about 20%
luckyyy
but still
im paying 100%
oh rip
yeah haha
i used to play a minecraft server where i sold block game items for mad money so i just have a couple hundred dollars that my parents dont know about chilling in a bank account
so i coould pay for most of it but
then id have to explain that for a good portion of the last year i have been running a block game buisness
lmfao hold up how have u not got caught yet
uh
they dont like
monitor the account
its my own youth checking account
but if they were to look at all the transactions there would be uh
more than what i tell them
ugh lucky my parents monitor mine
Block game tax fraud
me when i
wait whats a block game?
whats a tax
when the government takes ur money cus their too broke to make their own
ah ok
lmao whats a block game thoo
minecraft
All income is supposed to be reported for taxes but ehm yea
shhhh
Like they even have a cryptocurrency section now
me rolling up to federal prison for committing tax fraud at age 15
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wiat the government knows what crypto is?
strange times
so what do u even sell? u make blocks on minecraft and sell them?
i dont play minecraft sry
that is very hard to obtain
like what
its minecraft anarchy so its like
very hard to start out
new players need and want gear
so they see shop advertising big items that usually take forever to get for 50 centseach
yeah basically!
thats great
ik
how much do ppl pay per item?
does anyone know of any good desks
its a minimu of $4 an order
imma start doing this now this seems lit
and i get like 5 a day
