#building-and-recc-chat
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How
what you doing that only needs 8gb of ram?
IF you wait for stock of the case, its a fair deal cheaper
for the majority of games, 16gb is the better option
Could thermal throttling be causing multiplayer lag? My friends are complaining that I am lagging on their screens and my internet is fine, so could this be the cause?
The 970 evo is faster than the mp34 and its the same price rn
What about their internet :D
so buy the evo rn
MP34 was cheaper by like 2$ last I checked
i think thats not actually a bad 2.5inch ssd
lemme check da specs
I mean for $2 more the sn750 is worth lol
might wanna delete the screenshot
damn it
themal throttle doesn't affect your connection lol
Check your ping on that certain game though.
Might be your ping.
Hopefully no psychopaths here
hynix gold S31 isnt bad for 45 dollars
Maybe, I will check in game.
but, its worth the extra 15 for an nvme drive

mp34
waaaaaat out of your price point tho
like 3 dollars more
😰
yeah the mp34 like 64 i think??
wdym
Intel stock cooler is pretty bad
yeah, but 10100 is pretty low power
does it even come with a stock cooler? I thought it did
can you guys give me some recommendations? This is my first build and I have a max budget of $1400 but the cheaper the better. Also, not planning to buy both ssds, just trying to decide which is the better option. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xnJWrr
oh boy
a fun one
@wicked olive try to get a 3070 whenever possible
SSD wise is decent, but like MP34 or SX8200 pro is basically same price for a lot more performance
(against 860evo)
Aight! I'm planning to build this as a graduation gift for myself so I hope they'll be in stock by them. I'll also check out the other ssd options
you must be new to pc hardware
bad products get released all the time
3090 is one
the 10900 is another
hey guys, I want to make sure that everything here is optimized. The yellow arrows represent the flow of the air
why are the bottom ones pulling down?
hum
and the top right one could also be harmful to the airflow
because I tought at first that the gpu was pushing the air to the bottom...
@stoic island
no, it pulls air up
as you uh indicated in the picture lol
flip the bottom fans
Yo @lyric thistle you think you can help?
face down
PSU cables
So I should put those at the bottom to push the air to the gpu
But
Alright!!
wat
Ik know its for the fan remote
bottom left, 24 pin board power, bottom right, SATA drive power cables
so make it so it pulls air in through the bottom of the case and blows fresh air on the gpu
you plug them in
there is my psu right beyond those 2 bottom fans
is that a problem ?
well I'm sure it can only help
apparently my mobo only support up to 2933mhz, stupid alienware
I mean
even just taking out the bottom two fans, and the top right fan, would be better than leaving them as is
it would be better than what u are doing now suffocating your gpu
@hybrid wing that is not the mainboards fault as such, its the default cpu limit
its an 8700
Good, I'll be doing thit right away. Thanks
and? that does not change the limit @hybrid wing
https://newegg.io/a4450693 i did it
wait so an 8700 can only go up to 2933?
best i could do
BRUH
Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor (12M Cache, up to 4.70 GHz) quick reference guide including specifications, features, pricing, compatibility, design documentation, ordering codes, spec codes and more.
gotta enable xmp
in bios?
wait no the 8700 cant
I have an up and running old office pc I'm trying to sell but I don't know how much for
cause im getting 3600mhz for my 5900x and i wanted to see if it can run with my 8700 while im waiting for it
apparently not 😠
the ram will just clock down
to2666?
so you can test if it actually works
or to 2933?
it will clock down to whatever the board and cpu supports
but it will still work and not blow up my pc right?
in theory yes
why in theory
yeah
so the ram should just go down in speed
and when u get ur 5900x it will go full speed
sped
ok and my parts in my pc wont go buggy or die rihgt?
because i have no guarantee that you wont assemble it wrong.
ok so no boom boom, just slow slow
well yea no duh, it only goes in one way
ye
plenty of people have proven you wrong on that one
perfect, and the ryzen version of the gskill trident z will work perfectly fine, just double checking?
Intel or amd
cpu intel, ram amd, but im buying the ram for amd later on
im trying to find that gif where the guy hammers the ram into the ram slot
heres this instead
ram go brr
3900xt or 10900k?
What ram should I purchase for a 5900x, I don’t even know what motherboard to get, probably wait till Jan/feb.
10900k if those two are the only options
Speaking of ram 🐏.
@near iron what are you planning to do with the machine?
well what else? besides the new ryzen processors
also is the 5800x better than the 10900k
Video editing, I’ll def get at least 64gb but I don’t know the different be between all the brands
It's 8c16t vs 10c20t
so no?
but gaming 5800x wins on avg afaik
fr?
Don't have much time, I'll pull up GN vid
tyvm
Yea, Anandtech is great
Oh yeah that’s right
so if i can ill do a 5000 gen ryzen, otherwise 10900k
He has that video up about ram thanks
and its not like i cant upgrade if i do 10900k anyways
but im hoping that will last me like 3 years
also is it a bad idea to replace the p500a's stock fans with ll120's...
like ik money wise no
but......
@near iron Alright, for you, the suggest for now is still 3600mhz cl16 for Zen 3, but we're waiting for GN to do more testing.
Oh ok thank you
the power is on
I’ll wait a bit , since I got time no rush .
sidenote: where the heck is the ram video followup from GN and Level1tech ......
ikr
Dunno
ok thanks
Gn is live right now over clocking a gpu I believe
@clever sonnet you got a list of things to check earlier, then you went quiet
hey guys so just a question, if the pc wont be moved how bad is it if the Harddrive isnt in the cage and instead is just kinda loose-ish in the PSU shroud?
I mean it will be fine but if u move ur pc it could damage other stuff or the drive itself
yeah shoot
because its either that or he spends 60 ish dollars on cablemod cables
or maybe return the case and gets a bigger one
Guys witch cpu do you guys recommend
what budget
400 though 250$
5600x
@still bay consider this: all it takes for a dead HDD is one bump of the case
if its a 2.5 ssd that is down there, it does not matter
he can kick the case for all that it cares
hi
so what im hearing is either return the case and get a p500a or 4000d, or get cablemod cables (might be more flexible than stock corsair???)
what is the exact problem @still bay ?
so my cousin wants to get into pc gaming which is cool so im speccing out a build for him then on xmas im going to go over to his house and build it for/with him
yes?
issue is, i just build a VERY Similar build for my other friend (all my parts lists are pretty similar) and i had the issue i just stated
same case and psu
and he also had a HDD
link me a list please?
i just told my friend literally DO NOT even touch ur case
let me try to speedrun make it its not gonna be exact
might just be that you didnt think about it the right/quirky way
just case and psu really
all i need to know
oj
220t airflow
and corsair rm series (might be rmx dont think the cables change)
i really tried theres not a lot of space between the psu and harddrive cage and the 24ping cable is really not flexible
well it is just not at the 2 connection points
looks like there is plenty of space there from what i can see
but then with a full sized psu and also a cable the literally wont bend bc its stiff at the 2 plug points
Hey I was wondering if the amd stock thermal paste is fine or if I need to buy one
you can take it out
it's fine
ik
@fast robin stock is fine
Thx
i took it out for my friends build
Thx
but even with that @still bay i honestly dont see the problem
the cables do not want to bend man
you dont have to bend them
just use the second plug
?
(btw, i got my picture to post by doing a local screen grab and posting that)
Can someone make a $600 list with b550 motherboard he wants to make one for Christmas and upgrade later
For friend
gotcha; what is the second plug @foggy hazel
u mean 600 dollars but no gpu or wdym upgrade later?
Basically b550 motherboard and every part into it it could be good or bad
so a 600 dollars build that is b550?
Yes
why not just wait instead
Idk his parents said he has to get a $600 one right now
prices are fckd rn
that one, do note that amazon thirdparty is marking up the cpu by a LOT @torpid notch
@still bay please dont avoid the filter.
Yeah prices are 
@foggy hazel I’ll keep checking the list to see if it gets cheaper
If it doesn’t in time for christmas my friend just gotta go with a different build
His parents want to get him laptop :<
nono
@still bay some sata power cables have a non-right-angled connector at the end of the power cable
no
yes, some do
how?
that makes even less sense
how so
how are you trying to route it?
what
when i invested at like 50 :)
u invested in amd?
i invested like 2 weeks before 5000 gen announcement
well i dont day trade or anything so i do longer term stocks

mostly just stocks so i havem oney for college or in the future
When 16XX and 5XXX series GPUs are marked up
but so far maybe a couple hundred dollars?
They need to stock their cpus
@foggy hazel i really dont know how to show u as i already built the pc but ill try to explain

so its like
| HDD CAGE (space) PSU SLOT |

okay so i have all the cables plugged into the psu
aye, and you have about 3-4 cm of spare space
i then go and try to push it in the fron the side
it literally does not work the cables do not bend enough for it to go in
MAYBE if i remove the hdd cage, reroute cables, replace it then i would work
@still bay plug cables BEFORE you put the psu in the case.
@whole harbor read manual, you will learn things :)
no need to yell mate
The cables simply DO NOT bend enough to be able to fit into such a space with the hdd blocking it
fan down? feel like this wouldnt change it
it does change things, because it moves the 24pin connector from one side to the other
if the fan is up tho then im just pulling hot air from the gpu into the psu
which again brings us to the point where i ask for photos :)
i doont
the pc isnt in my house
but regardless u think its fine if the fan is facing up?
and that would solve the issue
not saying it will solve anything. because your problem does not make logical sense
from what i know of that psu
and from what i can see in the pictures of that case (because i have not built in that particular one)
it should not be a problem
okay
so, without pictures, its hard to tell you IF its your particular psu that is wonky or what the problem is
if you can, try and grab some photos, and we can talk about it based on that :)
okay well cya on the 25th lol
you wont have access to your own before then?
are you certain its not you being worried that is preventing that cable from bending?
So I really don't need to spend the extra money on a 7200rpm drive? A 5400 one will do?
what drive are you looking at @sharp hornet ?
I just want a drive to keep games installed on. Main is is on an ssd
I just want more storage. My old 1tb hdd is beginning to fill up due to photos, music, games, and videos.
I mean, I want to build a new pc, but I don't wanna spend $1200 again right now.
what specific model of drive are you looking at?
I was comparing a wd black 7200rpm 4tb drive to a 5400rpm model that's half the price, basically
You know, I discovered an M.2 slot on my motherboard the other day. Never knew it was there.
its your call on the hdd, IF its for cold storage, rpm does not matter
But given that I can get 4tb hdd for way cheaper than 1tb ssd, I want really considering SSD unless there's some great deal...
I'm keeping games installed on it, so active I guess.
I sometimes move games from my hdd to ssd and don't notice much improvement in load times...
hey guys do i need a bios update to run an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 on a Gigabyte GA-A320M-S2H?
you dont
ok thanksssss :) imma noob is all
you're goo
but updating bios is still good right
d
best to have latest?
it's not necessary
there are certain circumstances in which you should update the BIOS, but generally you should be fine with the BIOS you have if everything is running okay
im really ocmpeltely not sure but it might frick ur stuff up so unless u need to maybe dont
yeah dont wanna risk making a rookie mistake
if your computer's power is interrupted while it's updating the BIOS, the board will be bricked
sicc
@inner mortar rule of thumb: dont update something that already work
I had a BSOD caused by this laptop's wireless card driver :(
was last night
a lot of those Mini PCIe WiFi cards from ~2011 seem to be prone to doing that from what I read
it's an N-1030 Intel card
yeah
is that real fire
🤷♂️
is that real life
damn i love that slightly smokey smell when i boot up cold war 😍
if only burning electronics smelled like a bonfire
i'd just have thermaltake smart psu's all over the house to make it smell good
😳
it means the decision to buy it was no smart
idk try it
lmao
haha idk what will happen
should i unplug it first or leave that btch plugged in?
idk lmao
hey guys, is this cooler on this build gonna be alright?
https://newegg.io/dbde580
and case aswell
why are u getting a 630 dollar motherboard
I'm going to ask a dumb question
but do you need thermal paste when installing a liquid cooler? lmao
@tall wasp why that motherboard
thats a good question dw, really important; some come with pre applied thermal paste some come with paste u have t apply yourself
u will be able to see if it has it already preapplied if not just put a rice sized amount on your processor
gimme secc
DONT START RUBBING UR COOLER
NO I DIDNT
pre applied
Oh rly
Welp I guess I won’t be using my $16 thermal paste I got :’ )
im guessing this is ur first buiild?
Yeahhh
u can absolutely still do that if u wipe it off with rubbing alcohol
but if u can maybe return the paste?
@still bay future proof
what
The paste I bought included a cleaning wipe, shall I use it?
plus already have it
waaaaaa
He is saying save it in case swapping cooler or cpu or mono
welp sick mobo then lol
Mobo
its on its way at least
interesting choice on having a mobo worth more than ur cpu and gpu
im not exactly sure what that is
also do u have a noctua aio??????????????????
or noctua thermal paste
No, it’s a NZXT Kraken with noctua thermal paste
gotcha lol
didnt know thety sold thermal paste like that
so im honestly not sure what the best idea is
I think I will just use the pre-applied
if u were to swap thermal paste ur looking at a small amount of performance increase; what cpu?
yeah
Sure that isn’t a thermal pad?
sorry about that ;(
It’s the r5 5600x
itll be fine then
Okie dokie
I’m not sure :/
it says cleaning wipe
oh I thought he meant the cooler picture I sent
nvm then
I shall install it
Thank u @still bay
h510
I prefer the top so they don’t get in the way of anything
that damages/affects the cooler
u know that will give u cooler a shorter life span
OHHHHH
NONONONOO thats fine
where u have it mounted is fine
I know what you meant
i thought u meant mounted at the front yeah
Front isn’t okay?
It is
Yeah
put it at the front but have the tubes on the bottom if that makes sense
might feel upside down but iirc that is better for the cooler
i believe if the tubing is above the pump it can cause issues
or something like that
@rigid portal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk
A lot of PC builds online (including manufacturer photos & NR200P builds) incorrectly mount AIO liquid coolers, leading to pump noise/whine and early cooler failure.
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yeah so put the tubes on the bottom
yeah basically air bubbles will form
tis okay for orientation of the actual cooler?
aio on before mobo is in case interesting choice
Oh rly?
i have no clue what the orientation of the display is
Oh uhhhh
u might have to take it off afterwards but go for it
I guess I will do that after I put it in then lmao
tell me thats trident z rgb ram
It is the same orentation as the sticker I think
Yes it is
nice job mocco
please let me get a video of what the ram looks like
also i like the mobo choice
What is the exact cooler
x63 i think
X63
x62*
yee
Tubes should exit the pump on the right
dont know where i got that idea from
Does it have to?
if u want the display to face properly ig
I just didn’t think it would have space
No it should be fine, it says in the instructions that it rotate the logo in 12 different angles
There should be I just looked at your pic and there is an open ram slot so should be plenty of room
No problem
@rigid portal hows it going
i recommend u pu the mobo in first
rly?
thats like a standard
put ram, cpu, and cooler (unless aio) onto mobo, put mobo in case, PSU, HDD or ssd if u have), gpu, plug t all in, cable manage ffor 6 hours
and press the power button and it doesnt turn on!
@tall wasp case is kinda meh tbh
250 for what seems like meh airflow
LOL
also its massive
i would never buy it bc its 250 dollars and looksd umb
also doesnt seem like it has good airflow
what would you rec @still bay
buy used
at that budget, you are hitting way too many limits with new parts
yeah ur gonna hit a brick wall in terms of bottlenecks
ideally you get a full tower optiplex, a new psu, and a 570/80
of course
then add a ssd
yep
on some parts
no second hand PSU
unless its included with the pc like an optiplex but you would want to replace it anyways
@exotic kiln id check facebook marketplace and offerup in your area
see what there is on the market
whats your zip code? @exotic kiln I can help look on facebook marketplace and see whats around ya
if you dont mind
can you turn RGB off on fans?
with software
alright good
maybe in bios
thanks
but if you dont care for rgb on fans get be quiet fans or noctua fans
they are really good, especially noctua fans
I'm just buying some cheap fans for now until I can afford more expensive ones
and for some reason the cheapest ones have leds
so
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-7010-Tower-i5-3470-3-20Ghz-4GB-500GB-DVD-RW-Win-10-Pro-K5/313317008899? @signal gate
this one doesnt look too bad
this one is slightly newer
this bottom one is better deal imo
i forgot but may be able to throw a cheap xeon in there too
iirc just e3
ah
I think some one in this server did that but cant remember who
king floppa I think
wat da hell
yeah its legal but is it a good deal? no
scam
basically
you can definitely talk them down
thanks cyber power prebuilts 😎
oh it's not a matter of talking them down
it's a prebuilt
id ask to buy that for $250 max
wait thats cyberpower?
yeah lol
oof
bruh
used to do that tbh
with optiplexes lol
would just take the board out and put it in a $30 rgb gamer case
get heavily mined 470s
and put in a cheap dramless ss
d
i didnt make them crazy tho
lol 
fr i made like 150 profit on each one i did
10100 is p good too
^
I alr bought my b450
but get a cheap z490 mobo
😦
o oof
I'm really debating between the 3100 and 3600
im prob gonna get a 3600 if it goes down to $200
massive price difference rn but
3600 worth
3600 should be lower than that
I just want prices to go down :(
jeez
its worthless
userbenchmark is to be used with a grain of salt
with the whole damn shaker
it can be decent for directly comparing systems
Cost money
yeah I know but like talking not looking at what the ranking says but what the actual bench for your own computer says
Is it worth getting 3600 over 3100
yea
3600 would be preferable because more cores and better single core
with the price difference though?
whats the price of a 3100 rn
too much
$180
3600 is $300
what
insanely bad
lol the 3600x is cheaper than the 3600
yeah prices are weird rn
did u know stock differs in different places
is it worth the price difference if the 3100 is 100 USD rn?
I feel like im looking at canadian prices
what
Hiw much
this is canadian pricing
yeah that website is wrong lol
thats pcpp
pcpp pulls from multiple websites
is there a 3100g?
it didn't pull from enough
lol
also PC Canada is usually on PCPP
I think anyways
but they don't have the 3100 listed for the pc canada price
yea
I need thermalpaste i forgot
weird
3100 has been low for awhile maybe I'll grab one
are deepcool RF120W fans worth it for the cheap price?
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Why is this so expensive
replied to wrong person because I hit reply as soon as you messaged and chat moved down
mx4 and kryonaut are good @whole harbor
xe
Does canada ship to usa
dont think so
Im bouta cop from canada LMFAO
but u can try
does anyone know a good cheap pack of 3 fans?
just grab some delta fans
the 3 I was gonna buy is literally 20 cents over my PayPal wallet
if u want cheap and nothing else

let me check newegg
Why does your name have i7 10700k in it
I THINK u can LUL
because I put it in my name
But y
because I can. if you look other people put their pcs in their name too sometimes
Yeah I know
why is this website so large
honestlyy
the deepcool fans I was gonna buy is 20 cents over budget
so now I shall purchase fans from hell
It'll probably be a sticker
hm
so much bloat in that url
I enjoy my links big and chunky sorry
there now its not mobile version
i love how i didnt really do the best job making my url shortener
so it makes stuff around the same length as a normal url
o not bad
$69 for big chonk boi
I keep seeing really decent fan packs and then I get slapped in the face with 25 dollar shipping
canada
all this trouble because I'm 20 cents off of the ones I wanted lol
that is some bull crap with the shipping prices
nevermind canada computers lied
10 dollars shipping
bad canada computers
cancelled my order for 20 dollar ssd because it was out of stock
sad
what ssd
lmao link
it was 20 CAD
true
sux
dang what was it
$3 off my hdd
DUDE IM GETTING
$10 psu
oof
those ali express fans are looking delicious rn
ah aoc is decent
yeah have fun waiting for like 3 months to get them
@glacial umbra theres always credit card fraud
no lol
hmmm
credit card fraud or 3 months
what about ebay fans
let's check our old pal ebay
bro ebay had 3600
boom
u just zip tie them to the case
the shipping is free on the one I sent
not to Canada :(
15 dollars shipping
tru
I only have 20 CAD
Reason: Bad word usage
shert
woah no swearing man :(
brum
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Too many infractions
lol
f0ck
sad

@whole harbor no more of that please
lol
well time to stay up til 5 am doing homework listening to calm botw music
stay safe ladies and gents
I think I’m small brain. I’m finding it really hard to update my mobo bios
bad for the price
wait that is not the one i made
lol
WTH WAS DAT
i paid only 175 for that cpu back when it was new
@whole harbor calm down
Lmao I didn’t even know they still sold new
whats with the annoying gifs
Lmao

LOL
were you installing bonzi buddy instead of a bios update?
No?
did you load it onto a usb and plug it into the motherboard and went into bios and hit bios update?
load the bios update*
@warm kindle send pcpo
No
thats how you bios update
whats a pcpo
Pcpp
So how do I download to
@warm kindle ryzen 5 2600 really overpriced right now
Usb
Oo
that specific ssd*
hmm ok
when isnt an ssd ever not good for a boot drivew
case is meh for airflow
oh
is the video card good
yeah its fine
My question is, how the hell did you get that completely irrelevant build mixed up with this one??
for 1080p gaming
wow, 43$ ssd? so cheap
You should try used stuff. I was able to get a lot more for my budget lmao. Off Mercari
@warm kindle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9nWp3Z
Wait for the parts to go to my
Set prices
Aka gpu and cpu
that psu isnt good
you can get a better m.2 ssd for same price right now
like sn750 or 970 evo
(give or take a few bucks)
ewww



