#building-and-recc-chat
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@austere condor what uphere cooler is that?
Anyone that could help me with installing a 3600 stock cooler? It’s spring loaded and I’ve no clue how to install the damn thing.
@wanton cliff hm? There isn't a 3080 ti
push it down while you screw it in
one was announced?
The whole thing or the screw?
the only cards that exist are 3070/80/90 rn
@foggy hazel can you help me out with something?
Thanks haha but it's sold out xc
My friend said he's fine with the 3070 but wants ssd. I also am purchasing a way cheaper option but it has hdf
Hdd*
Mostly likely you have to keep a eye on stock or wait till next year
Is there a better option here haha...I don't see ssd but at the same time...I kinda dont know what I'm looking for
depends on your need really, better yet, hunt for discounted parts and build your own pc
@torn token
NVMe is a faster version of an SSD
well its an ssd
but faster than SATA
there are m.2 sata drives
which are smaller SATA SSDs
them NVME m.2's which are faster than the normal SATA SSDS
@-@ so if I switch to the 1TB NVMe M.2, it'll be better then the 500GB NVMe M.2+ 2TB HDD?
if you need the speed over storage then yuh
Okay new problem, my pc won’t turn on at all, I just hear a slight noise when I use the power button. Is there anything I’m missing by chance?
Can you open your case and check if anything turns on? Like fans, light and so on.
Nothing at all turns on
Huh...
My bet is on motherboard or psu
Maybe so, part of me believes maybe the power supply just doesn’t work but I don’t know.
What is your power supply model?
And how old it is?
Also have you checked the cables?(psu cable specially)
I had this issue and sometimes it was the psu not providing enough power because it was pretty bad
Or the psu cable poorly connected
Can somone tell me how much Wattage is needed for this rig? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6J2rr
500w is enough for it.
Ahh I see, awesome
It’s 750w, should be enough I believe with my specs
Brand new too, 80+ gold
Huh...
Have you checked the cable then?
Since I have a 2600, should i invest in a 650w @little osprey incase i happen to upgrade in the future?
I currently have a 1650 Super
Up to you.
Model?
Thanks guys for answering tht Question. Currently at work haha. But thanks 💕
Not really
It doesn't hurt.
ahh i see
i mean since theyre the same price
might as well go for the 650 correct?
But depends on the model
You really don't to grab a cheap 650w psu
Also again
Up to you.
i see
Got my case running right but my graphics card is not coming up in my device manager
I took it out and put it in again. The fans are running but what now?
Where did you plug the monitor in..?
^
I plugged it into the graphics card
What does Nvidia GeForce experience/Adrenaline say?
Uh what
MSI is an aib partner
They don't make the GPU chip itself
They make the card
AMD radon rx 5500 xt 8g oc
So what does Adrenaline say then?
Adrenaline is AMD's equivalent to GeForce experience
I did not get info for adrenaline
Can you like
Open task manager and check the usage of ram, cpu and such
Your GPU should be there.
Ok, did some download work and now it shows on the device manager
Awe!!! So much better.
Ah,,5500 xt
Navi 10 is well known for drivers issues
Meh
AMD fixed a lot of the issues present on launch
It's no longer a constantly black screening mess
a huge portion of the people complaining about rx5000 driver series were either using unstable ram overclock or daisy chaining gpu power

depends
on how overbuilt or not overbuilt your psu's cables are
and how much power the gpu actually draws
Fair
What a difference lol!
Still personally basing my judgement on Hei's claims of like 600w being pulled by a single 8 pin til it melts
most power supplies use 18AWG cables, which don't want more than 2.3 amps
8-pin pcie has 3 12V cables
Did not realize my card was not recognized and I was trying to figure out why my screen settings looked so terrible.
my mistake wrong number
then again i believe maximum amperage goes up if the cable is shorter
either way if you're daisy chaining and riding close to the limit then a simple transient spike could cause the graphics card to crash
that's why nvidia put so much emphasis on not daisy chaining for ampere
more throughput basically
meaning?
faster
given the speeds of current gen 4 drives, you might as well just get one and not bother with fiddling with RAID
if you really feel that you need that much speed
No redundancy tho, but if you don't care, go on
ok thanks
I'm assembling a build but I'm having second thoughts on my motherboard, what would be a good option for a build with an i7 10700k, rtx 3070 and a single M.2 2tb for storage?
Meanwhile...no news about the 10100f
is pny a reliable brand for gpu
Is anything really wrong with this I should know? I think for the most part here I'm fine.
PNY is decent
@tame siren NH-U12a's price just went wack
it should be 100usd
lemme see if it's in stock for 100 anywhere, if not I'll get you a replacement
Quick question, do I need to plug in an 8 pin and a 4 pin or will just the 8 pin work?
just 8 pin
only need 8 pin unless doing extreme overclocking
Alright price is fine on Newegg
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-u12a/p/13C-0005-00187
Oh, that's not too big of an issue, for me it went up 50. This is mostly a replacement setup if I can't find the 3080 and new AMD cpu in stock.
Next, Phanteks amp 750w went out of stock it looks like, hm.
What’s the best gpu to get for around $200
Hey @stoic island any recommendations for a $200 gpu
Still think it's kind of overkill to use a 9900k with a 2070, but can't find any other GPUs without spending too much on a 2080.
Is the extra price worth getting a 1660ti over a 1660 super @stoic island
no
anyone know if i should get an air cooler for my ryzen 5 3600???
WHY CANT THE 3100 JUST GET IN STOCK
Reason: Duplicated text
@tame siren By the way, you either already have the 9900k or can go to a Microcenter and get it for 300$ right
the 2070 at that price sucks ngl
Anyone here happened to have tried MSI's new power supplies?
And if so what are your thoughts?
nah
Yeah, couldn't find a decent price, so I went for it. There were stuff like 800 dollar ones, which I obviously wasn't going for. And, the reliable microcenters.
2070 for $460 is terrible
For like 160-170 Australian dollars, 650watt 80+gold and a ten year warranty seems real good
Haven't been able to find any reviews but I guess I'll see what happens
I mean
would recommend a 5700XT if you are looking for a new gpu around that price
for example, HCG Gold is 155aud
unless you are specfically using an nvidia feature
don't remember warranty with that
I have a walmart supermarket in my vicinity, so I could probably get soem parts there. I'm just worried about new stuff because I'm unsure if I'm going to find them in stock.
but it's a pretty good PSU
170 aud is $130 usd
corsair - 850w 80 gold $120
Yeah but parts tend to be expensive in Australia
Msi - 650w 80 gold $130
@open peak Yes, HCG Gold 650w is 155aud in Australia
I have the 3080 in my main build plan, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to find it in stock, and I just find Nvidia features to be better, like Nvidia REFLEX.
in your recording software
What quality
yeah these are the only ones with the same specs I can find from corsair
hm?
Buy Antec 650w High Current Gamer 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply (HCG650) - Umart.com.au Fast-Shipping & Pick-Up
Still FPS.
Ah yeah that one looks good as well
Just less FPS.
Less FPS loss on games that are CPU intensive.
this is also 155aud
@whole harbor the good part with NVENC is you basically don't lose fps (Compared to like h.264)
because the GPU can handle that load without a problem
Should I really be worried about stability with the newer Veneer AMD cpus?
No reports of driver instability yet
any current gen GPU will be a good idea anyways
Well, it's looking promising compared to the setup I have at the moment so I'm pretty excited to build.
:)
Guys should i get an air cooler for my r5 3600? I will probally overclock it
Gammaxx 400 for cheap
but not cheap >:P
Not that cheap, but cheaper than noctua
Honestly fuma 2 is overkill
what about the cooler master hyper 212? im doing a blackout build lol
idk, I would want fuma 2 myself, but if that works. I ain't here to stop him
meh, I personally won't
it's not like Noctua and free upgrade brackets, and AM4 is gonna be a dead end basically
Whelp, that's true
wait should i even overclock my r5 3600 in the first place?
Just use PBO and you should be fine if I were to tell you
the price makes it less desirable, but it's still decent
https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-GAMMAXX-Cooler-Heatpipes-Anodized/dp/B08C2TJ4QZ/
Whats PBO?
percision boost overdrive
black requirement makes it sad :P
oof
^
whats meh about it?
worse than gammaxx 400
There's something better than it nowadays
oh
Thing used to be good, but not now
yeah well its fine lol ill look at the gammaxx
do u think ill see a performance boost from overclocking the cpu tho?
You'll see, but.. like, not a lot?
That's why I said PBO works with it, no need to bother much, let it deal with the OC itself
okok thanks
I need help can someone chat with me about this fans ??
Can I chat on voice about it it way to much to type throw phone. U free
@stoic island hey I need help someone told me to find you.. can you help me with my fans I have a question
Sure, I might be able to help
@stoic island can we live chat
Sorry I can't
Reason: Bad word usage
@stoic island yeah I think I got thr wrong stuff with the fans.
@stoic island its way to much to type throw phone
No the wires and plugs
@stoic island i have a 1151 motherboard. I got the coolermaster mf120 fans with a coolermaster RGB LED controller.
@stoic island the thing is its a 3 plug isn't most plugs that is 3 pin is ARGB not RGB ?
@stoic island I plugged in a fan and it burned out the Lights in that one fan
12v RGB and 5v ARGB are different
@stoic island so what did I do wrong.
I need help :((
I’m building my pc rn and my gpu won’t go in
I have the nzxt h150 case and a rtx 3070
Won’t fit in the case?
@stoic island did i do something wrong or what . What would make a light burn out?
Did you push the clip down?
Did you take cover off of the pins that go into pcie ?
hm
Those screws will not come out on the side there
this ain't uploading
for some reason
weird
@lavish forge 5v Adressable rgb (Adressable rgb according to the product page for MF120) Uses a different header than the other commonly used 12v rgb header, so I suggest you take a look if you were using a 12v RGB or 5v ARGB header
As in, this part?
ew b450 tomahawk max
OMG
ITS A COVER BYE
THANK U GOODBYE
There was a damn cover on it I’m gonna scream
remember to push this bit out if you haven't
lmao, no worries 
nice
@glass depot don’t forget to take off that plastic on the gpu too
that's 5v argb it looks like.
is the r9 fury gpu for ~$140 a good price?
Yeah .. thats the plug from the fan.? Lol
I mean, if you plugged a part meant to use 5v, into a 12v header/connector, it won't go so well.
@stoic island yeah lol thats thr plug to the fan
Check where on the motherboard you have it plugged in
Also, what exact motherboard are you using?
oh lga1151v1
you dont have to @ him every time
I wonder if it even has a 5v argb header
LOL
@stoic island so this fans isn't RGB they are ARGB
the gaming 5?
@stoic island gaming 7
@lavish forge If they're these fans linked here, they are aRGB
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/case-fan/masterfan-mf120-halo/
@stoic island yeah those fans
Hm
I don't even see RGB headers on that motherboard
unless I just haven't spotted them yet
@stoic island yeah I got those fans. So I am confused on what I am doing wrong or where I want wrong lol. I build alot of pc this is the frist .
It had RGB fans on it before.
Will an R7 3800x and a RX 5700 XT be good enough for gaming with an Index?
Were they plugged into LED IO here before?
@stoic island is that where I need to plug the controller
@lavish forge where was it plugged into before?
I'm just wondering because I don't see a RGB header anywhere
hm
some rgb just takes power from usb header, but rgb usually need it's own header
and also looks like LED io has a weird layout that might not work, even though it's 5v
@stoic island hmm
@stoic island and you can't chat on voice.
Sadly no
hm, I wonder if Naed is still awake
@foggy hazel if you're still around, 5v argb fans won't be able to plug into LED_IO, and there's nowhere else for the rgb to be plugged in right?
@stoic island so what do I need to do
gimme a second
I'm also wondering if the controller you have is rgb or argb, gonna find that
If that controller was this here,
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/coolers/rgb-accessories/rgb-led-controller/
it'll be 12v rgb
@stoic island so what you saying
@lavish forge I feel like going at this one thing at a time is gonna make me miss points, so let's piece this together.
Right now, you're trying to use MF120 aRGB fans with a RGB controller, which seems to be powered by USB and SATA, correct?
@stoic island yes
So, to resolve this issue, we have two problems to deal with, first, Controller does 12v RGB and not 5v ARGB, so can't use the controller for those fans. Second, there doesn't seem to be any 5v ARGB headers on that motherboard, so you can't just directly plug the ARGB connector into the motherboard.
A possible solution is to use the controller, and then use some kind of 12v rgb into 5v argb converter.
@stoic island yeah thats what I have set up . But the fans say RGB and ARGB.
(Adressable or Digital rgb means it has to be the 5v rgb header)
yo where would i plug in my aio on my auros z390 pro?
@stoic island what would be the best thing to do ?
@stoic island what do I need to get to fix this. And what do I need to return
So, currently, did you say the lights seem to have burned out?
@stoic island yeah two of them
@stoic island i don't have the boxes to the fans anymore. Would newegg exchange them or man I am kicking myself.
An example of a converter, just grabbed the first one I saw off Amazon for the link, no real reason for the particular one
https://www.amazon.com/RGB-Convertor-Convert-Motherboard-Compatible/dp/B08CT9R8FR/
I believe they plug in up here. You can always refer to your manual and double check.
lmao imagine screwing up this bad
@stoic island I was looking at it . How would that work really.
@stoic island so sata to that box and lights to that box and thats it ? Little confused
Let's think about this io wise
Right now, you have a controller that uses SATA and USB to give you 12v rgb
and you have a fan that needs 5v rgb
@stoic island yeah
that converter would use another SATA power and 12v rgb (From the controller), and output the 5v argb for your fans.
@stoic island if I'm understanding right I would connect the fans to the converter and then the converter to the controller?
Yes, that's what I'm suggesting, that's the one solution I can think of, although there might be other solutions.
hm?
@stoic island what's the others. Exchange all thr lights and boxes
uh
@lavish forge that's one option, there's also getting rgb fans instead of argb fans, or just going no rgb, or there might be other things on the motherboard you can use that I'm not aware of, or a different hub that uses SATA and USB to output 5v argb instead of 12v rgb, etc.
maybe there's some usb to 5v argb dongle converter thing, who knows.
@stoic island man this is hard. Do you think new egg would exchange or let me return stuff if I don't have a box
The Overall Return Guidelines apply for items sold and shipped by Newegg. All returns require a RMA (Return Merchandise Authorization). All RMAs must be approved by Newegg.
Doesn't look like they'll accept it
Try and go through the RMA process with the original manufactuere (aka. Coolermaster for the fans) maybe @lavish forge
@stoic island okay thanks . If I got the converter it should work tho huh
I would think so, and again, @lavish forge make sure we've identified the parts correctly, because if say the fans were actually a different model with 12v rgb, that would be awkward.
The fans i fot are item # 1YF-0010-00264 @stoic island
@stoic island thats on our invoice
@stoic island yes
Yea, those are the aRGB MF120 that I was thinking about earlier.
In theory, some type of 12v to 5v convertor should allow for you to use them.
I also want to check something else real quickly, brb.
@stoic island ok
Alright, that controller uses USB and SATA power, as I thought, that should be good.
When do you guys think GPUs will become cheap again?
@stoic island the one you sent me from amazon?
@lavish forge the RGB controller you currently have.
@little osprey Hard to predict stock situation :(
For last gen GPUs, since they're last gen, their production are likely slowing down and going to be reaching eol, so those will likely fetch a high price for the rest of their time. For current gen, it'll be when enough stock gets back to us, which is predicted to be early next year.
@stoic island so what does that mean?
I was just checking one of the assumptions I made at the start on how the controller was powered, because some controllers need a 12v header on the motherboard, which your motherboard doesn't have. (Your controller just takes USB and SATA, doesn't need 12v rgb)
@stoic island so what you saying lol. I'm sorry I am leaning something new.
@stoic island hmm what should I do
Heh, I went about it in a roundabout way, anyways, fans wise you can try to see if Coolermaster will let you RMA those or get a replacement for those.
For powering argb on fans (either new ones or try to light up the current ones), I suggest just getting a converter to get 5v argb from the 12v rgb that the controller gives you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACTPlays/saved/#view=7X6LsY can this play roblox max settings?
@stoic island man I am kicking myself. Lol is this bad .
It's alright
@stoic island and the converter should work?
I believe so.
You're welcome, the more you know :D
One problem you learn about today is one problem you can solve tomorrow :P
@stoic island yeah I'm just kicking myself.
can someone tell me a good price for a used 1050 ti?
why 1050 ti
my sisters boyfriend needs a gpu and that’s what i have and it works good
but i don’t remember what i paid
i also have 1050 ti currently
my 3080 is shipping
yes it works good, but you could definitely get a better one for not too much more
i’m not looking to spend too much, i spent a lot on christmas already
alright then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjzgPV
is this a good build for right now?
I might swtich out the 5500xt for a 5600xt or 5700xt
@latent storm i personally couldnt even find a 1050 ti for 130
cheapest 1050 ti i found
@hushed peak change cpu to 3600
unless you need the cores i guess
3600 is better value?
i would think so
ok thanks
and go for a 5600xt if you can
@hushed peak you live near a microcenter?
damn it really is cheaper rn, wth
@icy thunder no im like an hour away
everyone is buying amd
You can apply that to a k variant 10400 and a Z490 board
im gonna wait for the 3600 to go down
because a few months ago i saw it at 160
so i can just wait
No
It won’t go down
Not till covid-19 goes away
Buy Intel before Intel goes up
@hushed peak if youre willing to go to a microcenter then do that
POV: Me after getting a brick dropped on my head when i was a baby 🤕
Ok
ok gn now
ok
i prob cant go to a microcenter
the lowest i saw the 3600 this week was like 200
lmao cpus are so high rn
intel cpus are low tho
what cpu should i get?
i can wait up to a month
Amazon pricing always seems high... I was looking into oculus rifts last year and it was $600 on Amazon and $400 everywhere else
Yeah
What’s your needs and desires?
at least a 3600
If you desperately want it
i can wait for like a month or two
Trust me man
I don’t think prices will lower
Due to lockdowns getting worse in areas
what should i get then?
What do you plan to do with your pc?
Do you feel comfortable with overclocking?
What GPU are you pairing with your cpu?
5500xt or 5600xt
5600XT with a 10400K should be fine
And if you don’t feel like overclocking. Just get a normal 10400
ok thanks for the help
Np
is 10400k better than 10400?
The k always you to overclock to your heart and processor limitations
Though. If you go k series. You might as well get a Z490 to support it.
Help you with what?
Read your manual
if i get normal 10400 what mobo should i get?
it’s not helping it’s confusing
Really any mobo will be fine
Are you plugging in your power connectors into your mobo? Or trying to plug your power connectors into the PSU itself?
Np
The psu itself for now
I’m just figuring out what I need and I think i have it
I have the 24 pin
The cpu
And the pcie
Then sata cables
That’s it
But I’m trying to put extensions on and they won’t fit
Extensions?
Extensions to what?
@karmic bobcat i cant find any 10400k i only see normal 10400 when i search it up
Where do you live?
The cables
Okay I’m dumb af and forgot that intel is dumb also. Just get the 10400 standard. It’ll turbo boost when you game to get you higher preforming FPS
Cable extensions you mean? To make your cables longer?
P sure 10400 was just much lower bin of 10600, and they prob wanted to encourage getting the higher bin 10600k for OCing
Yeah I understand that
Hello, I have a cooler master 240mL aio and I'm wondering where to plug it in on the z390 pro.
It’s just I forgot that the 10400 offers no OC and you need a 10600 to OC on 10th gen i5
ok thanks for the help
Hello guys, relatively new to this community and building pc in general. I have a question
@daring jetty the pump can just go on any fan header
cpu fan header is fine
case fan header is fine too if it's more convenient for cable management somehow
i've got mine hooked up to CPU_FAN on my b550 aorus elite
Oo how's the Aorus elite treating you?
zero complaints
i think we talked about this before but i wanted a b550 board with a sata port on the bottom
Yea
@pulsar crag you don't need permission to ask your question just ask it
I want to buy this graphics card because I want to connect 4 monitors but I just saw that none of my monitors have display ports, they are HDMI and the card is all DP. Is there a solution to this or do I have to get other monitors ?
I've just been suggesting Aorus elite recently because of the feature set, so I wanted to check in just in case
do you just need to connect 4 hdmi monitors as cheaply as possible
or do you also need some compute power
Yes, there are solutions
this is the cheapest solution to connect 4 HDMI monitors if you don't need any actual GPU compute power
Yea, if you're just trying to display things without needing to compute things, gt 710 will get the job done
Yeah what they said
@earnest olive I plugged it into a fan header and its still not working
How are you checking if it's working?
^
The cpu temps and the cooler master app
what are the cpu temps
do you get an RPM reading from the header you plugged it into?
Fahrenheit or celsius?
I think celsius
my water pump is reporting 2122 RPM right now
And also, software doesn't like to recognize it as a pump when you plug it into a fan header, but will still work.
yes my software thinks my pump is a fan but it works fine
Yea but MSI afterburner is even saying its 100
Let me launcg into bios real quick
I wonder if the fans on his rad are spinning 
Tbh 90c idle/in bios seems ridiculously high
tbh even if they didn't plug in the fans the aio probably has enough thermal mass to not instantly go 90C idle
so i kind of doubt that is the issue
Even without a heatsink
like i had one time i forgot to plug in the fan on stock cooler on a ryzen 5 3600
and it was idling at like 70 in bios
I wonder because he got a new aio it came with thermal paste and or did he properly clean off his old cpu and seat the aio right
because the heatsink's thermal mass had not yet been saturated
yes, but i want to figure out if the pump is actually working before remount
@earnest olive have you seen the cooling a cpu with another cpu video? They literally laid like a 3700x on top of a 3950x and idling in windows was like 70c
Might try to find the video again
i got about that much with a cpu cooler with no thermal paste
Pretty sure it was UFD tech
Don't remember specifics
It booted fine into windows tho
Ok I'm getting rpm
okay
But it's still at 90
what rpm is it reporting
You guys seen the video of Austin evans making breakfast with a 3600?
2213
sounds pretty normal for an idle pump
alright can you try setting it full speed and then dropping the speed and then setting it full speed
just vary the speed
and see if you can hear anything from the pump
when my pump kicks into gear from idle it'll make a brief whirring sound and you can hear liquid trickling before it settles down again
i just want to check if your pump is actually functioning
and just to be sure you did plug in the radiator fans too yes?
In a o11 dynamic where should I mount the aio on the top or on the back side and should the inlets and outlets of the tubes be on the top or bottom
top mount rad is always best
I can't hear anything over the fans
Oh ok, I’m building my first Pc for trading so it isn’t for actual gaming. So not sure if I need the gpu power really
okay so the aio fans are plugged in presumably
Yes
@pulsar crag no, you don't
The aio fans are working
that GT 710 i linked will do fine
you mostly just need a decent processor
@daring jetty how do you have your radiator mounted?
Top
just eliminating all variables before asking you to remount
hmm alright
let me think
would you mind gently shaking your pc a bit to see if there is an air bubble trapped in the pump?
Remount as in remove from cpu and remounting the block
It's possible maybe the mount was off and the coldplate isn't even touching the cpu yaknow
did you make sure to wipe off all the old thermal paste?
And results are in celsius correct?
was the coverage adequate?
you have an intel cpu so the paste doesn't need to cover the entire ihs but should be covering a large circle in the center at least
I don’t know a lot but this is how I was thinking my PC build would be. But now that you showed me that graphics card I think I would switch that one for the PNY Quadro. Would you change something else sir? Based on what I’ve told you. Thanks again
and you're sure the mount is properly tight?
By the way, you can link pcpp lists @pulsar crag
are you getting separate rpm readings from your pump and fans?
@pulsar crag don't buy a ryzen 5 3600 for $310
at this point in time you're better off with an intel i5 10th gen
And don’t buy a b550 board if you don’t plan on utilizing it
And yea make sure pricing is normal
@karmic bobcat upgradability always good, can't predict the future.
cpu_fan is my pump and sys_fan1 is my rad fans
I'm getting similar readings from my pump and fans
Ig. But if every penny counts
2000rpm on a radiator fan would be interesting
alright, so if you're sure that your mount is proper, then it's probably pump failure
my rad fans go up to 2020 RPM @stoic island
CPU is my pump and cpu opt is my radiator
@earnest olive yes but idle
did you try the gently shaking your pc? @daring jetty
Yes
and nothing happened?
alright i want you to try one last thing
you said this radiator is top mounted exhaust right?
put your hand over the radiator and see if the air coming out is actually warm
it's possible it's a faulty temperature sensor rather than a faulty pump
Is the msi b550 unify x not released to the public yet or just nonexistent 
alright then it's a faulty pump
you can try plugging the pump into a different header as a last ditch effort
Yeah I’m not going to buy the AMD ryzen 5 3600 for that price, I was waiting for this weekend to catch a sweet price
But the only thing I catched was it being sold out lol
*cought
And if none of that works. Just put in your old cpu cooler
But it’s a good processor right ? You would recommend it ?
I don't know if the old CPU cooler will cool it
What’s your cooler and what’s your CPU?
it is a good processor at $200 yes
I have a i9 9900k and a cooler master 240ml
What do you mean if I’m not going to use it
What was your old cpu cooler?
Basically. B550 offers next generation PCI express lanes to utilize. Mainly seen on 6XXX and 30XX GPUs from AMD and Nvidia respectively.
@pulsar crag one of the things that makes the 3600 good is the value it offers at 200$, but if it's say 300$ like right now, something like a 10600k will beat it.
Future proofing is always nice for upgradability sake
@pulsar crag https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dxgx9N you could do something like this instead
from my limited understanding of trading (i built a pc for one customer who was a trader), high single core performance is nice
hmm, haven't heard of that
Really?
could switch it for something else, you don't need anything spectacular to power a GT 710 system
CXm coil whine is very common according to a lot of people
EVGA BR?
Including this bit from Naed
good to know
considering it's a GT 710..
Oh ok that build looks good too. That i5 has 6 cores too?
What’s the main difference between i5, i7, i9
Marketing
more cores, slightly more clock speed
Lines between i3 i5 i7 i9 are a bit blurred
if you're chasing top end single core performance you'd be looking at a ryzen 9 5950x although it's really not much higher than a ryzen 5 5600x
Better to directly look at the specs/perf
So its more about the generation than the actual iX
yeah
Yea, a current gen i5 will beat a decade old i7 any day
an i7-860 would get destroyed by an i3-10100
Yea
similarly, ryzen 5 3600 thoroughly beats ryzen 7 1700
R5 5600x against R7 2700 too
Nah I don’t think I need overclocking for trading
you don't need it.. but it can be beneficial
Probably want it to be as stable as possible for trading
doesn't have to be an aggressive overclock could just be 4.8
Eh, they won't gain much and they're not risking too much
Anyways, that cooler should work fine stock
The thing that worries me a little is the actual graphics card. Does having a lot of charts open and data running all at the same time would be more related to the ram and the processor than the actual card ? I think I’m not properly educated on the actual purpose of the graphics card in terms of trading
depends if your charts and data are being rendered in 3D or not
GT 710 is gonna be fine for typical 2D excel looking charts
if you have a lot of 3D rendering going on maybe not
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you might find this interesting
TL;DR
I mainly run a program called thinkorswim and this is what they have in their site for “recommended specs”
I feel dumb for not knowing if they are renderer 2d or 3D lol
dedicated video card isn't saying much
the GT 710 is a dedicated video card
so if their power user recommendation doesn't say anything specific
then no you won't need a powerful gpu
Ok yeah so basically all I’m watching is 2D so makes sense
I’m done my build
But I found these wires called front panel header
Idk where to put them
So that recommendation about the i7, you think I don’t need to pay attention especially if I have an intel-core-i5-10600k
i7 is a very vague recommendation
and actually the i7-10700K is unlikely to be any better
since trading software mostly utilizes a single core
so yes the i5-10600K will do great
Check the manual
It should give you a pin layout for it too
is ASUS Prime X570-Pro mobo good?
id just get the same sticks
it might work, but most likely not
it'd look pretty weird with two rgb and two non rgb anyways
i'd just get 4 of the same sticks or 2x16
also, it happens sometimes don't sweat it too much
Got my build done but my monitor won’t detect my pc, any tips?
anyone know how to fix frame drops? I get 60 but yet it drops a sudden drop to 40.
@little osprey make sure its plugged into the graphics card
not the motherboard
Already have, monitor doesn’t detect it
then i'd try a different cable or test a different monitor if you can
Nothing rip
prob your graphics card then
if you have integrated graphics try connecting it to the motherboard instead
Nope, this 3080 better be working, it’s lighting up so idk what can be wrong
Are they supposed to be spinning? They don’t but the lights are working.
when you turn it on yeah
it might be your motherboard fam
double check power connections connected from the PSU to it
._.
hehe processor cores go brrr
@ripe wedge how to fix
like to 100%?
it goes from 60 FPS to like 40 for a split second
probably background processes
go down to the bottom right and close out apps that are running in the background
that u dont need
(note that if u have an rgb software it might change the rgb color to default)
Is the game on a hard drive?
naw ssd
Ah so it’s not gpu bottleneck
Ah
Hmm
Tbh not sure but go through task manager and go down the processes and see what’s running and see if anything is stealing power lol
1st issue : ryzen
Good marketing plot not very stable for gaming.. complete garbage low frame rate everything
Their new series isn't bad but I don't know man 4 cores $100 processor not going to get much out of it
lmao found someone on the intel copium

but what's the issue with 3100 anyway, we would love to hear your problems >:))
issue is it isnt intel ofc
kek
Well I mean the last time that I used an AMD processor was an FX 8350
It's fun to watch people by these marketing plots and keep buying ryzen chips every year though
I prefer AMD gpus though..
See it unlike you I'm not one of those people that argues which is better I know for a fact that Intel CPUs smack a thousand times harder for gaming than an AMD CPU...
Yeah they got their s*** together by using you guys for Denny's during that 2700x run
Funniest*
wut
🍿
If you buy a rise in CPU and you want to have a really good gaming experience good luck I'm sure it'll pair up really well with whatever you you pair it with ;)
No probs no worry.. ;)
Ryzen
fx is awful
It's not even worth f****** typing on a goddamn phone that's got autocorrect let me turn this s*** off
this is comedic
i cant tell if masterful troll or just idiot
yep
the pfp sells it tho
what's comedic watching you people by rise and shifts left and right and struggle to have high frame rates locked and a decent gaming experience
Ololol
Ryzen chips
i use intel dummy

I also use intel
cope harder tho
Imma whip the legit sources of reviews if you please :))
Means nothing
Figured
people could put up anything and you guys would believe it online without thinking for yourself or trying it for yourself
im a professional system builder
You literally just told me that because someone put up a review that I'm supposed to feel aimed towards that
i am the literal definition of trying it yourself
lmao
Why don't you go by everything and put it right next to each other and see
that is literally
Buy
exactly what i did
Why do their chips clock down on their laptops when the battery is plugged in
Curious
ur comparing desktop and laptop
No I'm looking at marketing tactics
intel desktop is garbage
intel laptop is okay though
Anyways you guys have fun arguing over which is better ;)
Scam, yeah, we're enjoying impressive perf over there for the price
Intel laptop suck
based
Or should I say have fun helping all these people with their ryzen cpu computers configure troubleshoot and figure it out
;)
Overheats
Like
The dinosaurs
Well a laptop doesn't have adequate cooling
So yes a chip that runs hotter is going to overheat
Then a chip that runs cooler
Laptops with adequate cooling exists KEK
Regardless if you're gaming on a ryzen CPU better get a second job
imagine getting mad at amd for clocking down but shilling intel chips for downclocking cause theyre throttling down
The s*** on my ass is drying
Have you even tried ryzen?
i use intel chips in both my personal computers cause it was what was good when i got them
amd is what's good now
dont shill a brand lmao youll end up looking stupid once the tables turn
^
intel might have a comeback and kill amd again
Don’t tell that to Theo or Bryce
but right now if youre going out to get a cpu intel is basically useless
Okay trendy fanboy
I'm almost done wiping my ass
Fanboy
Then you can tell me about how you're going to jump on whatever you think is better that year lol

They're both good they're both quality companies
yeah i run tests and listen to reviewers who i know are legit
then depending on who's the best value for $ at the time
ill go with either intel or amd
imagine getting 1st gen ryzen on b450 and literally being able to use the newest chips on the same board
meanwhile intel gives u 2 gens and thats it
lul
lul
best cpu i can put in my intel board from the same year as b450 gets curbstomped by the new ryzen 5
5600x is stupid fast
3100 is not all that slow either, but 3300x is the better one
5600x is insane
lmaooo
Ik stock is an issue, but if it's avail
It's a no brainer to get at its og price
Who need 6 cores
When you can get 4 cores
who need 4 cores
Woah
when you can get 2 cores
3000g? 
Yessir
it will win just from blue sticker on case





