#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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Reminds me of the pulse amd cards

wheat coral
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@austere condor what uphere cooler is that?

little osprey
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Anyone that could help me with installing a 3600 stock cooler? It’s spring loaded and I’ve no clue how to install the damn thing.

stoic island
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@wanton cliff hm? There isn't a 3080 ti

wanton cliff
wanton cliff
little osprey
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The whole thing or the screw?

stoic island
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@wanton cliff since when

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The 3080 20gb was denounced

deep skiff
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the only cards that exist are 3070/80/90 rn

little leaf
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@torn token the one with 3080 is much better

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About 30%

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Oh lol it didnt load

waxen grotto
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@foggy hazel can you help me out with something?

torn token
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My friend said he's fine with the 3070 but wants ssd. I also am purchasing a way cheaper option but it has hdf

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Hdd*

little osprey
torn token
pearl blade
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depends on your need really, better yet, hunt for discounted parts and build your own pc

stiff gust
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@torn token

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NVMe is a faster version of an SSD

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well its an ssd

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but faster than SATA

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there are m.2 sata drives

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which are smaller SATA SSDs

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them NVME m.2's which are faster than the normal SATA SSDS

torn token
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@-@ so if I switch to the 1TB NVMe M.2, it'll be better then the 500GB NVMe M.2+ 2TB HDD?

weak field
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if you need the speed over storage then yuh

obsidian wigeon
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^

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In my own opinion, 500gb SSD+2TB HDD should be fine

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But up to you. lmao

dull ferry
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^

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not like youll need super fast storage for games

little osprey
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Okay new problem, my pc won’t turn on at all, I just hear a slight noise when I use the power button. Is there anything I’m missing by chance?

little osprey
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Nothing at all turns on

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Huh...

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My bet is on motherboard or psu

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Maybe so, part of me believes maybe the power supply just doesn’t work but I don’t know.

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What is your power supply model?

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And how old it is?

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Also have you checked the cables?(psu cable specially)
I had this issue and sometimes it was the psu not providing enough power because it was pretty bad
Or the psu cable poorly connected

rancid pasture
rancid pasture
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Ahh I see, awesome

little osprey
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It’s 750w, should be enough I believe with my specs

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Brand new too, 80+ gold

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Huh...

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Have you checked the cable then?

rancid pasture
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Since I have a 2600, should i invest in a 650w @little osprey incase i happen to upgrade in the future?

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I currently have a 1650 Super

little osprey
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Up to you.

rancid pasture
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a 550 and 650 is the same price

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for the psu im looking at

little osprey
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Model?

torn token
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Thanks guys for answering tht Question. Currently at work haha. But thanks 💕

little osprey
rancid pasture
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ahh i see

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i mean since theyre the same price

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might as well go for the 650 correct?

little osprey
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But depends on the model
You really don't to grab a cheap 650w psu

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Also again
Up to you.

rancid pasture
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i see

drowsy plinth
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Got my case running right but my graphics card is not coming up in my device manager

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I took it out and put it in again. The fans are running but what now?

stoic island
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Where did you plug the monitor in..?

obsidian wigeon
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^

drowsy plinth
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I plugged it into the graphics card

stoic island
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What does Nvidia GeForce experience/Adrenaline say?

drowsy plinth
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I am working through websites and drivers and stuff.

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It is not nvidia

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Msi

stoic island
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Uh what

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MSI is an aib partner

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They don't make the GPU chip itself

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They make the card

drowsy plinth
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AMD radon rx 5500 xt 8g oc

stoic island
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So what does Adrenaline say then?

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Adrenaline is AMD's equivalent to GeForce experience

drowsy plinth
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I did not get info for adrenaline

little osprey
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Can you like

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Open task manager and check the usage of ram, cpu and such

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Your GPU should be there.

drowsy plinth
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Ok, did some download work and now it shows on the device manager

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Awe!!! So much better.

little osprey
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Ah,,5500 xt
Navi 10 is well known for drivers issues

stoic island
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Meh

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AMD fixed a lot of the issues present on launch

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It's no longer a constantly black screening mess

earnest olive
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a huge portion of the people complaining about rx5000 driver series were either using unstable ram overclock or daisy chaining gpu power

stoic island
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Btw how bad is Daisy chaining gpu power?

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Just instability?

earnest olive
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depends

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on how overbuilt or not overbuilt your psu's cables are

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and how much power the gpu actually draws

stoic island
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Fair

drowsy plinth
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What a difference lol!

stoic island
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Still personally basing my judgement on Hei's claims of like 600w being pulled by a single 8 pin til it melts

earnest olive
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most power supplies use 18AWG cables, which don't want more than 2.3 amps

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8-pin pcie has 3 12V cables

drowsy plinth
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Did not realize my card was not recognized and I was trying to figure out why my screen settings looked so terrible.

earnest olive
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my mistake wrong number

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then again i believe maximum amperage goes up if the cable is shorter

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either way if you're daisy chaining and riding close to the limit then a simple transient spike could cause the graphics card to crash

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that's why nvidia put so much emphasis on not daisy chaining for ampere

wanton cliff
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what is the benefit of RAID0

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for SSDs

earnest olive
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more throughput basically

wanton cliff
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meaning?

earnest olive
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faster

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given the speeds of current gen 4 drives, you might as well just get one and not bother with fiddling with RAID

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if you really feel that you need that much speed

obsidian wigeon
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No redundancy tho, but if you don't care, go on

wanton cliff
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ok thanks

slow nimbus
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I'm assembling a build but I'm having second thoughts on my motherboard, what would be a good option for a build with an i7 10700k, rtx 3070 and a single M.2 2tb for storage?

whole harbor
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just need the 3100 to go down in price

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Pog

little osprey
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Meanwhile...no news about the 10100f

tame siren
granite barn
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is pny a reliable brand for gpu

tame siren
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Is anything really wrong with this I should know? I think for the most part here I'm fine.

stoic island
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PNY is decent

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@tame siren NH-U12a's price just went wack

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it should be 100usd

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lemme see if it's in stock for 100 anywhere, if not I'll get you a replacement

little osprey
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Quick question, do I need to plug in an 8 pin and a 4 pin or will just the 8 pin work?

stoic island
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just 8 pin

earnest olive
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only need 8 pin unless doing extreme overclocking

little osprey
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Ok

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Thank you!

stoic island
tame siren
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Oh, that's not too big of an issue, for me it went up 50. This is mostly a replacement setup if I can't find the 3080 and new AMD cpu in stock.

stoic island
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Next, Phanteks amp 750w went out of stock it looks like, hm.

pseudo forge
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What’s the best gpu to get for around $200

stoic island
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it's 105usd on Newegg so

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it's fine

pseudo forge
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Hey @stoic island any recommendations for a $200 gpu

stoic island
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@pseudo forge For a new GPU, probably a 1660 around that price

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or 5500xt

tame siren
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Still think it's kind of overkill to use a 9900k with a 2070, but can't find any other GPUs without spending too much on a 2080.

pseudo forge
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Is the extra price worth getting a 1660ti over a 1660 super @stoic island

stoic island
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no

raw mist
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anyone know if i should get an air cooler for my ryzen 5 3600???

whole harbor
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WHY CANT THE 3100 JUST GET IN STOCK

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whole harbor
stoic island
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@tame siren By the way, you either already have the 9900k or can go to a Microcenter and get it for 300$ right

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the 2070 at that price sucks ngl

open peak
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Anyone here happened to have tried MSI's new power supplies?

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And if so what are your thoughts?

stoic island
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nah

whole harbor
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Theyre prob pretty good

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its msi

tame siren
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Yeah, couldn't find a decent price, so I went for it. There were stuff like 800 dollar ones, which I obviously wasn't going for. And, the reliable microcenters.

open peak
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Yeah from the looks they seem real good

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I picked one up for a real good price

whole harbor
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Imagine its trade

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Trash

earnest olive
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2070 for $460 is terrible

open peak
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For like 160-170 Australian dollars, 650watt 80+gold and a ten year warranty seems real good

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Haven't been able to find any reviews but I guess I'll see what happens

stoic island
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I mean

earnest olive
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would recommend a 5700XT if you are looking for a new gpu around that price

whole harbor
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Thats jost corsair

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Tbh

stoic island
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for example, HCG Gold is 155aud

earnest olive
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unless you are specfically using an nvidia feature

stoic island
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don't remember warranty with that

tame siren
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I have a walmart supermarket in my vicinity, so I could probably get soem parts there. I'm just worried about new stuff because I'm unsure if I'm going to find them in stock.

stoic island
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but it's a pretty good PSU

whole harbor
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170 aud is $130 usd

earnest olive
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the 5700XT is better than the 2070 in raster

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5700XT is not new

whole harbor
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corsair - 850w 80 gold $120

open peak
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Yeah but parts tend to be expensive in Australia

whole harbor
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Msi - 650w 80 gold $130

stoic island
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@open peak Yes, HCG Gold 650w is 155aud in Australia

tame siren
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I have the 3080 in my main build plan, but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to find it in stock, and I just find Nvidia features to be better, like Nvidia REFLEX.

stoic island
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10 year warranty too

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anyways, just an example

whole harbor
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how do you

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Enable nvenc

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Imma use it to stream

stoic island
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in your recording software

whole harbor
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What quality

open peak
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yeah these are the only ones with the same specs I can find from corsair

stoic island
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hm?

whole harbor
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And what do you sacrifice instead of fos

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Fps

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With nvenc?

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@stoic island

tame siren
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Still FPS.

open peak
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Ah yeah that one looks good as well

tame siren
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Just less FPS.

stoic island
tame siren
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Less FPS loss on games that are CPU intensive.

stoic island
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this is also 155aud

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@whole harbor the good part with NVENC is you basically don't lose fps (Compared to like h.264)

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because the GPU can handle that load without a problem

tame siren
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Should I really be worried about stability with the newer Veneer AMD cpus?

stoic island
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No reports of driver instability yet

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any current gen GPU will be a good idea anyways

tame siren
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Well, it's looking promising compared to the setup I have at the moment so I'm pretty excited to build.

stoic island
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:)

raw mist
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Guys should i get an air cooler for my r5 3600? I will probally overclock it

stoic island
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Gammaxx 400 for cheap

obsidian wigeon
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^

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Scythe Fuma 2 is also good imo

stoic island
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but not cheap >:P

obsidian wigeon
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Not that cheap, but cheaper than noctua

stoic island
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Honestly fuma 2 is overkill

raw mist
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what about the cooler master hyper 212? im doing a blackout build lol

stoic island
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on a 3600 gammaxx 400 will do fine

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eh, there's a black gammaxx version

obsidian wigeon
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idk, I would want fuma 2 myself, but if that works. I ain't here to stop him

stoic island
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meh, I personally won't

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it's not like Noctua and free upgrade brackets, and AM4 is gonna be a dead end basically

obsidian wigeon
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Whelp, that's true

raw mist
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wait should i even overclock my r5 3600 in the first place?

obsidian wigeon
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Just use PBO and you should be fine if I were to tell you

stoic island
raw mist
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Whats PBO?

stoic island
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percision boost overdrive

raw mist
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oh

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and the gammaxx is the same price as the cooler master hyper 212 in canada lol

stoic island
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black requirement makes it sad :P

raw mist
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oof

stoic island
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oh well

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212 is meh

obsidian wigeon
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^

raw mist
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whats meh about it?

stoic island
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worse than gammaxx 400

obsidian wigeon
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There's something better than it nowadays

raw mist
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oh

obsidian wigeon
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Thing used to be good, but not now

raw mist
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yeah well its fine lol ill look at the gammaxx

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do u think ill see a performance boost from overclocking the cpu tho?

obsidian wigeon
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You'll see, but.. like, not a lot?

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That's why I said PBO works with it, no need to bother much, let it deal with the OC itself

raw mist
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okok thanks

lavish forge
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I need help can someone chat with me about this fans ??

wanton cliff
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okee

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@lavish forge

lavish forge
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Can I chat on voice about it it way to much to type throw phone. U free

lavish forge
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@stoic island hey I need help someone told me to find you.. can you help me with my fans I have a question

stoic island
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Sure, I might be able to help

lavish forge
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@stoic island can we live chat

stoic island
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Sorry I can't

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lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah I think I got thr wrong stuff with the fans.

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@stoic island its way to much to type throw phone

stoic island
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:(

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So are you talking about the screws?

lavish forge
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No the wires and plugs

stoic island
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Should be 4 pin pwm for the fan

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rgb is always a bit weird

lavish forge
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@stoic island i have a 1151 motherboard. I got the coolermaster mf120 fans with a coolermaster RGB LED controller.

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@stoic island the thing is its a 3 plug isn't most plugs that is 3 pin is ARGB not RGB ?

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@stoic island I plugged in a fan and it burned out the Lights in that one fan

stoic island
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12v RGB and 5v ARGB are different

lavish forge
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@stoic island so what did I do wrong.

glass depot
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I need help :((

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I’m building my pc rn and my gpu won’t go in

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I have the nzxt h150 case and a rtx 3070

languid nimbus
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Won’t fit in the case?

lavish forge
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@stoic island did i do something wrong or what . What would make a light burn out?

glass depot
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It fits in the case

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But I’m trying to push it in

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And it won’t :(

languid nimbus
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Did you push the clip down?

glass depot
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yea

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and I took out the little side thingies

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3 of them

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PAIN

languid nimbus
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Did you take cover off of the pins that go into pcie ?

glass depot
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Did I

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I’m not sure

stoic island
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hm

glass depot
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Those screws will not come out on the side there

stoic island
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this ain't uploading

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for some reason

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weird

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@lavish forge 5v Adressable rgb (Adressable rgb according to the product page for MF120) Uses a different header than the other commonly used 12v rgb header, so I suggest you take a look if you were using a 12v RGB or 5v ARGB header

languid nimbus
glass depot
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Yeah :(

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It won’t go in

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Is there a cover or something

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I might be dumb

stoic island
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ew b450 tomahawk max

glass depot
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OMG

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ITS A COVER BYE

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THANK U GOODBYE

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There was a damn cover on it I’m gonna scream

stoic island
languid nimbus
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lmao, no worries love_it

glass depot
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Yep !!!

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Thank you guys

stoic island
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nice

lavish forge
languid nimbus
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@glass depot don’t forget to take off that plastic on the gpu too

lavish forge
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@stoic island it burned out the lights ? And fan not working.

glass depot
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yes I’ll peel it off after

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:3

stoic island
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that's 5v argb it looks like.

blazing aurora
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is the r9 fury gpu for ~$140 a good price?

lavish forge
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Yeah .. thats the plug from the fan.? Lol

stoic island
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I mean, if you plugged a part meant to use 5v, into a 12v header/connector, it won't go so well.

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah lol thats thr plug to the fan

stoic island
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Check where on the motherboard you have it plugged in

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Also, what exact motherboard are you using?

lavish forge
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@stoic island ga-zx170 motherboard

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@stoic island 1151

stoic island
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oh lga1151v1

wanton cliff
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you dont have to @ him every time

stoic island
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I wonder if it even has a 5v argb header

glass depot
lavish forge
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@stoic island so this fans isn't RGB they are ARGB

stoic island
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the gaming 5?

lavish forge
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@stoic island gaming 7

stoic island
lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah those fans

stoic island
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Hm

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I don't even see RGB headers on that motherboard

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unless I just haven't spotted them yet

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah I got those fans. So I am confused on what I am doing wrong or where I want wrong lol. I build alot of pc this is the frist .
It had RGB fans on it before.

wanton cliff
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Will an R7 3800x and a RX 5700 XT be good enough for gaming with an Index?

stoic island
lavish forge
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@stoic island is that where I need to plug the controller

stoic island
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@lavish forge where was it plugged into before?

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I'm just wondering because I don't see a RGB header anywhere

lavish forge
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@stoic island f_usb2

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@stoic island thats where I put the last set of lights

stoic island
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hm

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some rgb just takes power from usb header, but rgb usually need it's own header

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and also looks like LED io has a weird layout that might not work, even though it's 5v

lavish forge
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@stoic island hmm

stoic island
lavish forge
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@stoic island and you can't chat on voice.

stoic island
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Sadly no

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hm, I wonder if Naed is still awake

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@foggy hazel if you're still around, 5v argb fans won't be able to plug into LED_IO, and there's nowhere else for the rgb to be plugged in right?

lavish forge
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@stoic island so what do I need to do

stoic island
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gimme a second

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I'm also wondering if the controller you have is rgb or argb, gonna find that

lavish forge
stoic island
lavish forge
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@stoic island so what you saying

stoic island
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@lavish forge I feel like going at this one thing at a time is gonna make me miss points, so let's piece this together.
Right now, you're trying to use MF120 aRGB fans with a RGB controller, which seems to be powered by USB and SATA, correct?

lavish forge
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@stoic island yes

stoic island
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So, to resolve this issue, we have two problems to deal with, first, Controller does 12v RGB and not 5v ARGB, so can't use the controller for those fans. Second, there doesn't seem to be any 5v ARGB headers on that motherboard, so you can't just directly plug the ARGB connector into the motherboard.

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A possible solution is to use the controller, and then use some kind of 12v rgb into 5v argb converter.

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah thats what I have set up . But the fans say RGB and ARGB.

stoic island
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(Adressable or Digital rgb means it has to be the 5v rgb header)

daring jetty
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yo where would i plug in my aio on my auros z390 pro?

lavish forge
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@stoic island what would be the best thing to do ?

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@stoic island what do I need to get to fix this. And what do I need to return

stoic island
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So, currently, did you say the lights seem to have burned out?

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah two of them

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@stoic island i don't have the boxes to the fans anymore. Would newegg exchange them or man I am kicking myself.

stoic island
languid nimbus
lofty flint
daring jetty
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@languid nimbus Ive tried both and it still isn't [umping water

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*pumping

lavish forge
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@stoic island I was looking at it . How would that work really.

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@stoic island so sata to that box and lights to that box and thats it ? Little confused

stoic island
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Let's think about this io wise

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Right now, you have a controller that uses SATA and USB to give you 12v rgb

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and you have a fan that needs 5v rgb

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah

stoic island
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that converter would use another SATA power and 12v rgb (From the controller), and output the 5v argb for your fans.

lavish forge
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@stoic island if I'm understanding right I would connect the fans to the converter and then the converter to the controller?

stoic island
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Yes, that's what I'm suggesting, that's the one solution I can think of, although there might be other solutions.

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hm?

lavish forge
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@stoic island what's the others. Exchange all thr lights and boxes

stoic island
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uh

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@lavish forge that's one option, there's also getting rgb fans instead of argb fans, or just going no rgb, or there might be other things on the motherboard you can use that I'm not aware of, or a different hub that uses SATA and USB to output 5v argb instead of 12v rgb, etc.

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maybe there's some usb to 5v argb dongle converter thing, who knows.

lavish forge
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@stoic island man this is hard. Do you think new egg would exchange or let me return stuff if I don't have a box

stoic island
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Doesn't look like they'll accept it

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Try and go through the RMA process with the original manufactuere (aka. Coolermaster for the fans) maybe @lavish forge

lavish forge
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@stoic island okay thanks . If I got the converter it should work tho huh

stoic island
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I would think so, and again, @lavish forge make sure we've identified the parts correctly, because if say the fans were actually a different model with 12v rgb, that would be awkward.

lavish forge
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The fans i fot are item # 1YF-0010-00264 @stoic island

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@stoic island thats on our invoice

lavish forge
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@stoic island yes

stoic island
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Yea, those are the aRGB MF120 that I was thinking about earlier.

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In theory, some type of 12v to 5v convertor should allow for you to use them.

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I also want to check something else real quickly, brb.

lavish forge
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@stoic island ok

stoic island
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Alright, that controller uses USB and SATA power, as I thought, that should be good.

little osprey
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When do you guys think GPUs will become cheap again?

lavish forge
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@stoic island the one you sent me from amazon?

stoic island
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@lavish forge the RGB controller you currently have.

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@little osprey Hard to predict stock situation :(
For last gen GPUs, since they're last gen, their production are likely slowing down and going to be reaching eol, so those will likely fetch a high price for the rest of their time. For current gen, it'll be when enough stock gets back to us, which is predicted to be early next year.

lavish forge
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@stoic island so what does that mean?

stoic island
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I was just checking one of the assumptions I made at the start on how the controller was powered, because some controllers need a 12v header on the motherboard, which your motherboard doesn't have. (Your controller just takes USB and SATA, doesn't need 12v rgb)

lavish forge
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@stoic island so what you saying lol. I'm sorry I am leaning something new.

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@stoic island hmm what should I do

stoic island
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Heh, I went about it in a roundabout way, anyways, fans wise you can try to see if Coolermaster will let you RMA those or get a replacement for those.

For powering argb on fans (either new ones or try to light up the current ones), I suggest just getting a converter to get 5v argb from the 12v rgb that the controller gives you.

icy thunder
lavish forge
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@stoic island man I am kicking myself. Lol is this bad .

stoic island
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It's alright

lavish forge
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@stoic island and the converter should work?

stoic island
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I believe so.

lavish forge
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@stoic island okay thanks so much.

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@stoic island this sucks..

stoic island
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You're welcome, the more you know :D

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One problem you learn about today is one problem you can solve tomorrow :P

lavish forge
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@stoic island yeah I'm just kicking myself.

latent storm
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can someone tell me a good price for a used 1050 ti?

icy thunder
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why 1050 ti

latent storm
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my sisters boyfriend needs a gpu and that’s what i have and it works good

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but i don’t remember what i paid

icy thunder
#

i also have 1050 ti currently

#

my 3080 is shipping

#

yes it works good, but you could definitely get a better one for not too much more

latent storm
#

i’m not looking to spend too much, i spent a lot on christmas already

icy thunder
#

i see

#

whats the most you wanna spend on a card?

latent storm
#

like 130 at most

#

i’d love to not spend that much

icy thunder
#

alright then

hushed peak
icy thunder
#

@latent storm i personally couldnt even find a 1050 ti for 130

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cheapest 1050 ti i found

#

@hushed peak change cpu to 3600

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unless you need the cores i guess

hushed peak
#

3600 is better value?

icy thunder
#

i would think so

hushed peak
#

ok thanks

icy thunder
#

and go for a 5600xt if you can

hushed peak
#

ok

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rn a 3600 is 300

#

normally its 160 right?

glass depot
#

IS ANYONE GOOD WITH POWER SUPPLY AND WIRES

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😭😭😭😭

stoic island
#

not really

#

pinouts are weird

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and are different between psu companies

glass depot
#

:((((

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Corsair?

#

I’m so confused this is like

#

so crazy

karmic bobcat
#

Because 10400>3600 atm

icy thunder
#

@hushed peak you live near a microcenter?

icy thunder
karmic bobcat
#

Yes it is

#

Because the higher price point you would pay on the 3600 atm

hushed peak
#

@icy thunder no im like an hour away

icy thunder
#

everyone is buying amd

karmic bobcat
#

You can apply that to a k variant 10400 and a Z490 board

hushed peak
#

im gonna wait for the 3600 to go down

#

because a few months ago i saw it at 160

#

so i can just wait

karmic bobcat
#

No

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It won’t go down

#

Not till covid-19 goes away

#

Buy Intel before Intel goes up

icy thunder
#

@hushed peak if youre willing to go to a microcenter then do that

little osprey
#

POV: Me after getting a brick dropped on my head when i was a baby 🤕

karmic bobcat
#

Ok

little osprey
#

ok gn now

karmic bobcat
#

🥱

icy thunder
#

@hushed peak if you do go to a microcenter, make sure its in stock first tho

hushed peak
#

ok

#

i prob cant go to a microcenter

#

the lowest i saw the 3600 this week was like 200

little osprey
#

dude amazon selling 3 3100 for 180

#

wtf

#

im out

hushed peak
#

lmao cpus are so high rn

#

intel cpus are low tho

#

what cpu should i get?

#

i can wait up to a month

twilit salmon
#

Amazon pricing always seems high... I was looking into oculus rifts last year and it was $600 on Amazon and $400 everywhere else

karmic bobcat
#

It doesnt help everyone is sold out

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🙄

twilit salmon
#

Yeah

karmic bobcat
hushed peak
#

at least a 3600

karmic bobcat
#

Then just wait for a 3600

hushed peak
#

ok

#

lmao

karmic bobcat
#

If you desperately want it

hushed peak
#

i can wait for like a month or two

karmic bobcat
#

Trust me man

#

I don’t think prices will lower

#

Due to lockdowns getting worse in areas

hushed peak
#

what should i get then?

karmic bobcat
#

What do you plan to do with your pc?

hushed peak
#

just gaming

#

like cod warzone

#

thats the most intense game i would play

karmic bobcat
#

Do you feel comfortable with overclocking?

hushed peak
#

yea i could do that

#

i just want at least 140 fps in most games

karmic bobcat
#

What GPU are you pairing with your cpu?

hushed peak
#

5500xt or 5600xt

karmic bobcat
#

5600XT with a 10400K should be fine

#

And if you don’t feel like overclocking. Just get a normal 10400

hushed peak
#

ok thanks for the help

karmic bobcat
#

Np

hushed peak
#

is 10400k better than 10400?

karmic bobcat
#

The k always you to overclock to your heart and processor limitations

#

Though. If you go k series. You might as well get a Z490 to support it.

glass depot
#

Pls... anyone

#

Help...

#

😔😔😔

karmic bobcat
#

Help you with what?

glass depot
#

My power supply

#

Idk where anything goes

karmic bobcat
#

Read your manual

hushed peak
#

if i get normal 10400 what mobo should i get?

glass depot
#

it’s not helping it’s confusing

karmic bobcat
#

Really any mobo will be fine

hushed peak
#

ok

#

thanks for your help.

karmic bobcat
karmic bobcat
glass depot
#

The psu itself for now

#

I’m just figuring out what I need and I think i have it

#

I have the 24 pin

#

The cpu

#

And the pcie

#

Then sata cables

#

That’s it

#

But I’m trying to put extensions on and they won’t fit

karmic bobcat
#

Extensions?

glass depot
#

Yeah I got white ones

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To match

karmic bobcat
#

Extensions to what?

hushed peak
#

@karmic bobcat i cant find any 10400k i only see normal 10400 when i search it up

hushed peak
#

no i mean i searched it up online and i cant find it

#

i live in cali

glass depot
#

The cables

karmic bobcat
karmic bobcat
stoic island
#

P sure 10400 was just much lower bin of 10600, and they prob wanted to encourage getting the higher bin 10600k for OCing

karmic bobcat
#

Yeah I understand that

daring jetty
#

Hello, I have a cooler master 240mL aio and I'm wondering where to plug it in on the z390 pro.

karmic bobcat
#

It’s just I forgot that the 10400 offers no OC and you need a 10600 to OC on 10th gen i5

hushed peak
#

ok thanks for the help

pulsar crag
#

Hello guys, relatively new to this community and building pc in general. I have a question

earnest olive
#

@daring jetty the pump can just go on any fan header

#

cpu fan header is fine

#

case fan header is fine too if it's more convenient for cable management somehow

#

i've got mine hooked up to CPU_FAN on my b550 aorus elite

stoic island
#

Oo how's the Aorus elite treating you?

earnest olive
#

zero complaints

#

i think we talked about this before but i wanted a b550 board with a sata port on the bottom

stoic island
#

Yea

earnest olive
#

@pulsar crag you don't need permission to ask your question just ask it

pulsar crag
#

I want to buy this graphics card because I want to connect 4 monitors but I just saw that none of my monitors have display ports, they are HDMI and the card is all DP. Is there a solution to this or do I have to get other monitors ?

stoic island
#

I've just been suggesting Aorus elite recently because of the feature set, so I wanted to check in just in case

earnest olive
#

do you just need to connect 4 hdmi monitors as cheaply as possible

#

or do you also need some compute power

stoic island
#

Yes, there are solutions

earnest olive
earnest olive
#

this is the cheapest solution to connect 4 HDMI monitors if you don't need any actual GPU compute power

stoic island
#

Yea, if you're just trying to display things without needing to compute things, gt 710 will get the job done

karmic bobcat
#

Yeah what they said

daring jetty
#

@earnest olive I plugged it into a fan header and its still not working

stoic island
#

How are you checking if it's working?

earnest olive
#

^

daring jetty
#

The cpu temps and the cooler master app

earnest olive
#

what are the cpu temps

daring jetty
#

90

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in bios

earnest olive
#

do you get an RPM reading from the header you plugged it into?

stoic island
#

Fahrenheit or celsius?

daring jetty
#

I think celsius

earnest olive
#

my water pump is reporting 2122 RPM right now

stoic island
#

And also, software doesn't like to recognize it as a pump when you plug it into a fan header, but will still work.

earnest olive
#

yes my software thinks my pump is a fan but it works fine

daring jetty
#

Yea but MSI afterburner is even saying its 100

earnest olive
#

we are

#

not asking for temps

#

we are asking if you have an RPM reading

daring jetty
#

Let me launcg into bios real quick

earnest olive
#

hwinfo works too

karmic bobcat
#

I wonder if the fans on his rad are spinning ThonkHappy

stoic island
#

Tbh 90c idle/in bios seems ridiculously high

earnest olive
#

tbh even if they didn't plug in the fans the aio probably has enough thermal mass to not instantly go 90C idle

#

so i kind of doubt that is the issue

stoic island
#

Even without a heatsink

earnest olive
#

like i had one time i forgot to plug in the fan on stock cooler on a ryzen 5 3600

#

and it was idling at like 70 in bios

karmic bobcat
#

I wonder because he got a new aio it came with thermal paste and or did he properly clean off his old cpu and seat the aio right

earnest olive
#

because the heatsink's thermal mass had not yet been saturated

#

yes, but i want to figure out if the pump is actually working before remount

stoic island
#

@earnest olive have you seen the cooling a cpu with another cpu video? They literally laid like a 3700x on top of a 3950x and idling in windows was like 70c

earnest olive
#

remount is annoying

#

interesting

stoic island
#

Might try to find the video again

earnest olive
#

i got about that much with a cpu cooler with no thermal paste

stoic island
#

Pretty sure it was UFD tech

#

Don't remember specifics

#

It booted fine into windows tho

daring jetty
#

Ok I'm getting rpm

earnest olive
#

okay

daring jetty
#

But it's still at 90

earnest olive
#

what rpm is it reporting

karmic bobcat
#

You guys seen the video of Austin evans making breakfast with a 3600?

daring jetty
#

2213

earnest olive
#

sounds pretty normal for an idle pump

#

alright can you try setting it full speed and then dropping the speed and then setting it full speed

#

just vary the speed

#

and see if you can hear anything from the pump

#

when my pump kicks into gear from idle it'll make a brief whirring sound and you can hear liquid trickling before it settles down again

#

i just want to check if your pump is actually functioning

#

and just to be sure you did plug in the radiator fans too yes?

forest sky
#

In a o11 dynamic where should I mount the aio on the top or on the back side and should the inlets and outlets of the tubes be on the top or bottom

earnest olive
#

top mount rad is always best

daring jetty
#

I can't hear anything over the fans

pulsar crag
earnest olive
#

okay so the aio fans are plugged in presumably

daring jetty
#

Yes

earnest olive
#

@pulsar crag no, you don't

daring jetty
#

The aio fans are working

earnest olive
#

that GT 710 i linked will do fine

#

you mostly just need a decent processor

#

@daring jetty how do you have your radiator mounted?

daring jetty
#

Top

earnest olive
#

just eliminating all variables before asking you to remount

#

hmm alright

#

let me think

daring jetty
#

I've already remounted to the front of the case

#

Same resul

earnest olive
#

would you mind gently shaking your pc a bit to see if there is an air bubble trapped in the pump?

stoic island
#

Remount as in remove from cpu and remounting the block

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

it might not be on tight enough or could be poor thermal paste application

stoic island
#

It's possible maybe the mount was off and the coldplate isn't even touching the cpu yaknow

daring jetty
#

I removed the block from the CPU before

#

And reapplied

#

Still the same result

earnest olive
#

did you make sure to wipe off all the old thermal paste?

stoic island
#

And results are in celsius correct?

daring jetty
#

Yes

#

I wiped off all the thermal pste

earnest olive
#

was the coverage adequate?

#

you have an intel cpu so the paste doesn't need to cover the entire ihs but should be covering a large circle in the center at least

daring jetty
#

Yeah

#

I applied it pretty normal

pulsar crag
#

I don’t know a lot but this is how I was thinking my PC build would be. But now that you showed me that graphics card I think I would switch that one for the PNY Quadro. Would you change something else sir? Based on what I’ve told you. Thanks again

earnest olive
#

and you're sure the mount is properly tight?

stoic island
#

By the way, you can link pcpp lists @pulsar crag

earnest olive
#

are you getting separate rpm readings from your pump and fans?

#

@pulsar crag don't buy a ryzen 5 3600 for $310

#

at this point in time you're better off with an intel i5 10th gen

karmic bobcat
#

And don’t buy a b550 board if you don’t plan on utilizing it

stoic island
#

And yea make sure pricing is normal

#

@karmic bobcat upgradability always good, can't predict the future.

daring jetty
#

Rpm?

#

Oh

earnest olive
daring jetty
#

I'm getting similar readings from my pump and fans

karmic bobcat
stoic island
#

2000rpm on a radiator fan would be interesting

earnest olive
#

alright, so if you're sure that your mount is proper, then it's probably pump failure

daring jetty
earnest olive
#

my rad fans go up to 2020 RPM @stoic island

daring jetty
#

CPU is my pump and cpu opt is my radiator

stoic island
#

@earnest olive yes but idle

earnest olive
#

well

#

idle doesn't matter much if they're ramping up due to idle temp being 90C

stoic island
#

Oh well

#

Must figure it out

earnest olive
#

did you try the gently shaking your pc? @daring jetty

daring jetty
#

Yes

earnest olive
#

and nothing happened?

#

alright i want you to try one last thing

#

you said this radiator is top mounted exhaust right?

#

put your hand over the radiator and see if the air coming out is actually warm

#

it's possible it's a faulty temperature sensor rather than a faulty pump

broken basin
#

Is the msi b550 unify x not released to the public yet or just nonexistent sadsock

daring jetty
#

It's warmer than the other fas

#

Fans

earnest olive
#

alright then it's a faulty pump

#

you can try plugging the pump into a different header as a last ditch effort

pulsar crag
#

Yeah I’m not going to buy the AMD ryzen 5 3600 for that price, I was waiting for this weekend to catch a sweet price

#

But the only thing I catched was it being sold out lol

#

*cought

earnest olive
#

good luck, it's been terrible pricing for a while

#

demand far outstrips supply

karmic bobcat
#

And if none of that works. Just put in your old cpu cooler

daring jetty
#

I bought this aio like 2 weeks ago

#

Sad

pulsar crag
#

But it’s a good processor right ? You would recommend it ?

daring jetty
#

I don't know if the old CPU cooler will cool it

karmic bobcat
#

What’s your cooler and what’s your CPU?

earnest olive
#

it is a good processor at $200 yes

daring jetty
#

I have a i9 9900k and a cooler master 240ml

pulsar crag
karmic bobcat
daring jetty
#

One that came with a orebuilt

#

Prebuilt

karmic bobcat
stoic island
#

@pulsar crag one of the things that makes the 3600 good is the value it offers at 200$, but if it's say 300$ like right now, something like a 10600k will beat it.

#

Future proofing is always nice for upgradability sake

earnest olive
#

from my limited understanding of trading (i built a pc for one customer who was a trader), high single core performance is nice

stoic island
#

Uh bleach

#

CXm coil whine

earnest olive
#

hmm, haven't heard of that

stoic island
#

Really?

earnest olive
#

could switch it for something else, you don't need anything spectacular to power a GT 710 system

stoic island
#

CXm coil whine is very common according to a lot of people

earnest olive
#

EVGA BR?

stoic island
#

Including this bit from Naed

earnest olive
#

good to know

stoic island
#

Evga br is good for budget builds

#

Ba also an option

earnest olive
#

considering it's a GT 710..

pulsar crag
earnest olive
#

yeah

#

you could get a better cooler if you wanted to overclock it

pulsar crag
#

What’s the main difference between i5, i7, i9

stoic island
#

Marketing

earnest olive
#

more cores, slightly more clock speed

stoic island
#

Lines between i3 i5 i7 i9 are a bit blurred

earnest olive
#

if you're chasing top end single core performance you'd be looking at a ryzen 9 5950x although it's really not much higher than a ryzen 5 5600x

stoic island
#

Better to directly look at the specs/perf

pulsar crag
#

So its more about the generation than the actual iX

earnest olive
#

yeah

stoic island
#

Yea, a current gen i5 will beat a decade old i7 any day

earnest olive
#

an i7-860 would get destroyed by an i3-10100

stoic island
#

Yea

earnest olive
#

similarly, ryzen 5 3600 thoroughly beats ryzen 7 1700

stoic island
#

R5 5600x against R7 2700 too

pulsar crag
earnest olive
#

you don't need it.. but it can be beneficial

stoic island
#

Probably want it to be as stable as possible for trading

earnest olive
#

doesn't have to be an aggressive overclock could just be 4.8

stoic island
#

Eh, they won't gain much and they're not risking too much

#

Anyways, that cooler should work fine stock

pulsar crag
#

The thing that worries me a little is the actual graphics card. Does having a lot of charts open and data running all at the same time would be more related to the ram and the processor than the actual card ? I think I’m not properly educated on the actual purpose of the graphics card in terms of trading

earnest olive
#

depends if your charts and data are being rendered in 3D or not

#

GT 710 is gonna be fine for typical 2D excel looking charts

#

if you have a lot of 3D rendering going on maybe not

#

2020 UPDATE – Whilst this test is still highly relevant, we have a brand new updated graphics card test now available: Trading PC Graphics Cards When it comes to trading and multi-screen computers, one of the most misunderstood aspects is the graphics card setup. I’ve lost count of the number of times people have ‘told’… Read more about Graphics...

#

you might find this interesting

pulsar crag
#

I mainly run a program called thinkorswim and this is what they have in their site for “recommended specs”

pulsar crag
earnest olive
#

dedicated video card isn't saying much

#

the GT 710 is a dedicated video card

#

so if their power user recommendation doesn't say anything specific

#

then no you won't need a powerful gpu

pulsar crag
#

Ok yeah so basically all I’m watching is 2D so makes sense

glass depot
#

I’m done my build

#

But I found these wires called front panel header

#

Idk where to put them

pulsar crag
earnest olive
#

i7 is a very vague recommendation

#

and actually the i7-10700K is unlikely to be any better

#

since trading software mostly utilizes a single core

#

so yes the i5-10600K will do great

pulsar crag
#

Yes

#

What did you do man

jagged ember
#

It should give you a pin layout for it too

little osprey
#

is ASUS Prime X570-Pro mobo good?

jagged ember
#

id just get the same sticks

merry cape
#

it might work, but most likely not

jagged ember
#

it'd look pretty weird with two rgb and two non rgb anyways

#

i'd just get 4 of the same sticks or 2x16

#

also, it happens sometimes don't sweat it too much

little osprey
#

Got my build done but my monitor won’t detect my pc, any tips?

icy quail
#

anyone know how to fix frame drops? I get 60 but yet it drops a sudden drop to 40.

#

@little osprey make sure its plugged into the graphics card

#

not the motherboard

little osprey
#

Already have, monitor doesn’t detect it

icy quail
#

then i'd try a different cable or test a different monitor if you can

little osprey
#

Nothing rip

icy quail
#

prob your graphics card then

#

if you have integrated graphics try connecting it to the motherboard instead

little osprey
#

Nope, this 3080 better be working, it’s lighting up so idk what can be wrong

icy quail
#

are all your fans spinning?

#

when you boot

little osprey
#

Are they supposed to be spinning? They don’t but the lights are working.

icy quail
#

when you turn it on yeah

#

it might be your motherboard fam

#

double check power connections connected from the PSU to it

lyric thistle
#

Right click > Change graph to > Logical processors

icy quail
ripe wedge
icy quail
#

@ripe wedge how to fix

ripe wedge
#

fix what

#

whats up

#

@icy quail

icy quail
#

my CPU is spiking for some reason like idk

#

whenever I run my game

ripe wedge
#

like to 100%?

icy quail
#

it goes from 60 FPS to like 40 for a split second

ripe wedge
#

probably background processes

#

go down to the bottom right and close out apps that are running in the background

#

that u dont need

#

(note that if u have an rgb software it might change the rgb color to default)

icy quail
#

yo that lowkey might have done it

#

y am I green now

#

nvm it still spikes

ripe wedge
#

Is the game on a hard drive?

icy quail
#

naw ssd

ripe wedge
#

Hmm

#

Hit windows + G when ur in game and tell me what your gpu % usage is at

icy quail
#

stays at 50%

#

40-50

ripe wedge
#

Ah so it’s not gpu bottleneck

icy quail
ripe wedge
#

Hmm

#

What’s your temps @icy quail

#

Maybe thermal throttle

icy quail
ripe wedge
#

Ah

#

Hmm

#

Tbh not sure but go through task manager and go down the processes and see what’s running and see if anything is stealing power lol

little osprey
#

1st issue : ryzen

#

Good marketing plot not very stable for gaming.. complete garbage low frame rate everything

#

Their new series isn't bad but I don't know man 4 cores $100 processor not going to get much out of it

hollow grail
#

lmao found someone on the intel copium

obsidian wigeon
#

amdrone spotted

#

wait, that's wrong word

#

i meant inteldrone

#

lmao

hollow grail
obsidian wigeon
#

but what's the issue with 3100 anyway, we would love to hear your problems >:))

hollow grail
#

issue is it isnt intel ofc

obsidian wigeon
#

kek

little osprey
#

Well I mean the last time that I used an AMD processor was an FX 8350

#

It's fun to watch people by these marketing plots and keep buying ryzen chips every year though

#

I prefer AMD gpus though..

obsidian wigeon
#

wut

#

fx is trash yes

little osprey
#

See it unlike you I'm not one of those people that argues which is better I know for a fact that Intel CPUs smack a thousand times harder for gaming than an AMD CPU...

obsidian wigeon
#

ryzen isn't, esp starting from 3000

#

pls check your eyes hidethepain

little osprey
#

Yeah they got their s*** together by using you guys for Denny's during that 2700x run

#

Funniest*

obsidian wigeon
#

wut

little osprey
#

Ginnies

#

F****** autocorrect

obsidian wigeon
#

🍿

little osprey
#

If you buy a rise in CPU and you want to have a really good gaming experience good luck I'm sure it'll pair up really well with whatever you you pair it with ;)

#

No probs no worry.. ;)

#

Ryzen

hollow grail
#

fx is awful

little osprey
#

It's not even worth f****** typing on a goddamn phone that's got autocorrect let me turn this s*** off

obsidian wigeon
#

this is comedic

hollow grail
#

i cant tell if masterful troll or just idiot

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

hollow grail
#

the pfp sells it tho

little osprey
#

what's comedic watching you people by rise and shifts left and right and struggle to have high frame rates locked and a decent gaming experience

#

Ololol

#

Ryzen chips

hollow grail
#

i use intel dummy

little osprey
obsidian wigeon
#

I also use intel

hollow grail
#

intel is worse than amd

#

cpu wise

#

hands down

obsidian wigeon
#

But ryzen beats my intel

#

:v

hollow grail
#

cope harder tho

obsidian wigeon
#

Imma whip the legit sources of reviews if you please :))

little osprey
#

Means nothing

obsidian wigeon
#

Figured

little osprey
#

people could put up anything and you guys would believe it online without thinking for yourself or trying it for yourself

hollow grail
#

im a professional system builder

little osprey
#

You literally just told me that because someone put up a review that I'm supposed to feel aimed towards that

hollow grail
#

i am the literal definition of trying it yourself

obsidian wigeon
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lmao

little osprey
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Why don't you go by everything and put it right next to each other and see

hollow grail
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that is literally

little osprey
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Buy

hollow grail
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exactly what i did

obsidian wigeon
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Lili has experience

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And I know what she says is truth

little osprey
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Why do their chips clock down on their laptops when the battery is plugged in

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Curious

hollow grail
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did realworld as well as synthetic workloads

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and amd kills intel

little osprey
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Why their amazing chips clock down

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I'd like to know ?

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Il wait

hollow grail
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ur comparing desktop and laptop

little osprey
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No I'm looking at marketing tactics

hollow grail
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intel desktop is garbage

little osprey
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And you people getting scammed

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;p

hollow grail
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intel laptop is okay though

little osprey
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Anyways you guys have fun arguing over which is better ;)

obsidian wigeon
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Scam, yeah, we're enjoying impressive perf over there for the price

little osprey
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Intel laptop suck

hollow grail
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based

little osprey
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Or should I say have fun helping all these people with their ryzen cpu computers configure troubleshoot and figure it out

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;)

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Overheats

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Like

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The dinosaurs

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Well a laptop doesn't have adequate cooling

hollow grail
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i love how u were like

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try it urself

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and i was like

little osprey
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So yes a chip that runs hotter is going to overheat

hollow grail
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i literally did

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and you just changed topic

little osprey
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Then a chip that runs cooler

obsidian wigeon
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Laptops with adequate cooling exists KEK

little osprey
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Regardless if you're gaming on a ryzen CPU better get a second job

hollow grail
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imagine getting mad at amd for clocking down but shilling intel chips for downclocking cause theyre throttling down

little osprey
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The s*** on my ass is drying

obsidian wigeon
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Have you even tried ryzen?

hollow grail
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i use intel chips in both my personal computers cause it was what was good when i got them

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amd is what's good now

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dont shill a brand lmao youll end up looking stupid once the tables turn

obsidian wigeon
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^

hollow grail
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intel might have a comeback and kill amd again

little osprey
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Don’t tell that to Theo or Bryce

hollow grail
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but right now if youre going out to get a cpu intel is basically useless

little osprey
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Okay trendy fanboy

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I'm almost done wiping my ass

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Fanboy

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Then you can tell me about how you're going to jump on whatever you think is better that year lol

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They're both good they're both quality companies

hollow grail
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yeah i run tests and listen to reviewers who i know are legit

obsidian wigeon
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Dude's backpedaling

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Yikes, mayday time

hollow grail
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then depending on who's the best value for $ at the time

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ill go with either intel or amd

obsidian wigeon
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^

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Right now ryzen is pog

hollow grail
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imagine getting 1st gen ryzen on b450 and literally being able to use the newest chips on the same board

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meanwhile intel gives u 2 gens and thats it

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lul

obsidian wigeon
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lul

hollow grail
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best cpu i can put in my intel board from the same year as b450 gets curbstomped by the new ryzen 5

obsidian wigeon
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5600x is stupid fast

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3100 is not all that slow either, but 3300x is the better one

hollow grail
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5600x is insane

little osprey
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3300x existing

hollow grail
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lmaooo

obsidian wigeon
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Ik stock is an issue, but if it's avail

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It's a no brainer to get at its og price

little osprey
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Who need 6 cores

hollow grail
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2020 components being at msrp

little osprey
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When you can get 4 cores

hollow grail
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who need 4 cores

little osprey
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Woah

hollow grail
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when you can get 2 cores

little osprey
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2 then

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Omg

obsidian wigeon
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3000g? hidethepain

hollow grail
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core 2 duo

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cause intel better than amd

little osprey
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Yessir

obsidian wigeon
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oh yeah

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forgot

hollow grail
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it will win just from blue sticker on case

little osprey
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8ghz quad core