building-and-recc-chat

[wraith quiver]

how did you find out they had that one

[mortal rampart]

Why is this man so concerned about his 3400g that he almost bought for $200 on a killer mb

[earnest olive]

it says so for my location

yeah idk lol i wish i had money at 13 yrs old to not be willing to wait 2 weeks to save $50

[warped agate]

cuz i know nothing about pcs

[wraith quiver]

I’ve been saving up for 3 years 😐

[warped agate]

just really good at games

[earnest olive]

when i was 13 if i wanted something i had to work for it

[wraith quiver]

and not have much patience

[earnest olive]

aint never had an allowance

[mortal rampart]

W

[warped agate]

i did work for it

[wraith quiver]

I don’t have allowance either

[sinful hornet]

no allowance gang

[wraith quiver]

My 1000$ pc took 3 years to save up for

[earnest olive]

didn't get paid for chores either

[sinful hornet]

lemonade stands for days for my first pc lmao

[wraith quiver]

I’m not spoiled

[earnest olive]

my payment for chores was not getting a beating

[wraith quiver]

No me either

[sinful hornet]

11 yrs old

[mortal rampart]

We not talking about you @warped agate 💀

[earnest olive]

@warped agate anyways cancel it all except the 3070 if possible

[mortal rampart]

Ya

Please

[earnest olive]

you would be able to destroy that build for half the price

lol

[mortal rampart]

It hurt to look at that

[wraith quiver]

I do work

I’ve been decorating this hotel for like 4 hrs now and I’m getting paid 60$ out of the 4000$ my mom is getting and I’ve done most of the heavy lifting

I’m working for the motherboard like literslly rn

[mortal rampart]

Your mb doesn't need to be over $100 tho

[wraith quiver]

I know

[sinful hornet]

ive been working for the old people that live behind my house for the past 2 years or so to save up for this next pc

[wraith quiver]

I was just worried

[mortal rampart]

They're going obsolete within the next 9 months

Well don't be

[sinful hornet]

and the od job from my dad/mom every once in awhile

[mortal rampart]

We're here to help you

[wraith quiver]

So how do I check if my Best Buy has a 3400g compatible motherbsord in stock

[sinful hornet]

i dont think ive spent any money since i bought my first pc

basically just started saving immediatly for another lul

[earnest olive]

dude just pay for expedited shipping on newegg it'll still be way cheaper

lol

[wraith quiver]

same except during the summer I worked for my great aunt helping her move 8 hrs a day for 50$ a day

[mortal rampart]

He's right

[sinful hornet]

$50 a day isnt bad

[mortal rampart]

So then why waste your money

[wraith quiver]

How much is that shipping and how much faster will it be

it’s not wasting

[mortal rampart]

You could get better parts if you get some patience

[earnest olive]

the mobo i showed you in the beginning is already overkill for a 3400G

[wraith quiver]

Getting a better motherboard and getting it 2 weeks faster isn’t wasting

still

[earnest olive]

you won't get any benefit out of going more overkill than overkill

lol

[wraith quiver]

OVERKILL

but

My two questions

[eager flower]

There’s a lot of cringe in this channel

[earnest olive]

go check it yourself

[wraith quiver]

How to check what they have in stock and hat expiditied shipping is

[mortal rampart]

Ikr @eager flower

[wraith quiver]

How much is exprosifiskirgkkw shipping

[eager flower]

People are so missinformed and then give advice in here sometimes

[mortal rampart]

Scroll up a little and you'll see something horrendous

[wraith quiver]

See what

[warped agate]

lol

[mortal rampart]

Sorry dawg @warped agate

[warped agate]

legit all good

[earnest olive]

@warped agate https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jdDz7 this build would beat the one you posted in gaming performance by 30-40% and costs less than half

[mortal rampart]

It's not even how I'm feeling it's just that you got robbed

And I feel badd

[eager flower]

Wait how

[earnest olive]

origin pc = literal robbery

[eager flower]

I cba to scroll up lmao

[earnest olive]

they were selling a $13500 prebuilt without thermal paste

[eager flower]

Someone was gonna buy ORIGIN?

[warped agate]

already did

[sinful hornet]

what

why

does a 13500

[wraith quiver]

???

[sinful hornet]

prebuilt

[earnest olive]

@eager flower they spent $3500 on a 3070 rig

[sinful hornet]

even exist

[earnest olive]

that's all you need to know

so like, can it still be cancelled?

[eager flower]

Oh no oh no

[sinful hornet]

did they consult ANYONE before buying?

[eager flower]

My 3070 rig will be 1600 lmao

[sinful hornet]

;-;

[earnest olive]

3070 rigs should be running you like $1100-1300 not $3500

[sinful hornet]

yea, mines arond 1300 i think

[eager flower]

1100-1300?

[sinful hornet]

and thats only cause i made it look nice

[warped agate]

if u build tho

[earnest olive]

1300 would be overbuilt

[still roost]

WaffleFrisbee14#7151 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[earnest olive]

but that's assuming msrp

[eager flower]

USD?

What

[sinful hornet]

yea, 1250

[warped agate]

i cant build at all

[earnest olive]

yeah

[sinful hornet]

but canada

so

things are more expensive

[eager flower]

Hmmm I included tax in my build

[earnest olive]

what's more valuable to you, watching a 40 minute build guide to save $2400, or spending $2400

[warped agate]

spend it

[earnest olive]

if you make more than $3600/hour then by all means buy the prebuilt jeff bezos

[sinful hornet]

problem with includng tax is its different everywhere

[earnest olive]

yeah nobody ever includes tax in budget for this reason

my sales tax is 8.25%

might be different for guy with glasses

@eager flower https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FfNPz7 this would be a quite overbuilt 3070 rig for 1380, but that is assuming you can find it for msrp which is a big assumption

[eager flower]

My build was around 1600

Without tax

[warped agate]

pretty sure i cant cancel anyway

rip

[wraith quiver]

@earnest olive your special shipping costs 10$ more and it is still 2 weeks away

[earnest olive]

well advice for the future...
if you're going to consult people then do so before buying
if you already bought then don't consult people so you avoid buyer's remorse.. ignorance is bliss

[stoic island]

@earnest olive dunno, I feel a bit iffy about the Mobo, otherwise it's good

[earnest olive]

Z490-A PRO will be fine for a 10600K

[sinful hornet]

yea, sales tax is 13% in ontario

[earnest olive]

would upgrade mobo for a higher chip

[eager flower]

300 CPU
550 GPU
100 AIO
130 RAM
105 PSU
150 MOBO
86 CASE

Am I missing a part

[earnest olive]

consulting the Z490 vrm tier list 😛

[warped agate]

i did

[eager flower]

60 SSD

My build isn’t bad and it was around 1500-1600

[warped agate]

previous guy just told me uprgrade ram

[stoic island]

@earnest olive I mean feature wise

[warped agate]

upgrade*

[stoic island]

MSI loves the alc887

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sGrrcT $1205 and still completely reasonable

most people won't be able to tell the difference between alc887 and alc1220 tbh

[stoic island]

No real z490 board sheet

But eh

[earnest olive]

most people don't even have good enough audio system to tell the difference

[stoic island]

I'd like to have alc1220 so they can get a good audio setup

[earnest olive]

@stoic island https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg/edit?usp=sharing

if you are a real audiophile you're not using onboard anyways

[sinful hornet]

sn750 is on one hecc of a deal rn

[earnest olive]

so i don't consider it an issue

[stoic island]

@earnest olive yes there's a vrm tier list

[sinful hornet]

i got it yesterday for my build

[stoic island]

But no mobo sheet like the x570 sheet

For everything

[earnest olive]

yeah that's true

[wraith quiver]

@earnest olive so how do I check the stock for motherboards on Best Buy

[stoic island]

I want to know slots and all mainly

But I just don't like MSI low end in general

[sinful hornet]

wait

this doesnt have the sn750

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UewkGqEnq3Zp9jJgV9zDH05W8x8RIuFebobOtURysWA/edit#gid=0

oops

[stoic island]

The SSD sheet does

I don't use the dark mode one so

[coral wasp]

newbie over here

i want to build a custom PC

how do I know what is compatible and what is not

[stoic island]

@sinful hornet

@coral wasp easiest way is to use pcpartpicker.com

Automatically checks a good amount of the compatibility for you

[sinful hornet]

ctrl+f doesnt work for my on the spreadsheet ;-;

hein

[stoic island]

Lol

[sinful hornet]

nvm

[earnest olive]

@coral wasp just use pcpartpicker to organize your parts it has a built in compatibility checker

[sinful hornet]

had to use the built-in ctrl+f

[earnest olive]

pcpartpicker.com

[sinful hornet]

pog, prosumer

[wraith quiver]

wow

[mystic galleon]

do you think Rtx 2060 still good?

[earnest olive]

depends on price

[opal stratus]

Nzxt kraken coolers are pretty good right?

[sinful hornet]

...

not for price

[opal stratus]

O

[sinful hornet]

arctic freezer II

[opal stratus]

What would you recommend then

Ah thank you lol

Compatible with 3700x and B450M Pro-m2 right?

[karmic bobcat]

So I looked at it. The 3800X is a meme in itself

[karmic trellis]

Can I get an opinion? I plan on buying the CPU, MB, RAM & Cooler tonight. Currently going to use that with the 850 Corsair PSU, and a GTX 1060.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T7yKht

[still bay]

whats a good like 1000 dollar prebuilt @stoic island

ik ik my friend doesnt want to custom built it its whatever

[urban light]

What’s the difference between x570 e and x570 f
Cause I was gonna get the e
But is saw the f was on sale for £210

[wraith quiver]

@still bay is this true- “The case would still turn on and everything else would still turn on Mateo even if something wasn’t compatible “

Also @stoic island

[still roost]

Simp For Zero Two#9277 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jade dock]

THERES RYZEN 7S FOR 220 WHAT A DEAL

[sinful hornet]

#tech-deals and link?

[jade dock]

ok bet

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-Processor-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=sr_1_2_mod_primary_new?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+7+2700&qid=1606505560&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=8-2

[odd crypt]

Hey

Guys

[jade dock]

wassup

[stoic island]

what

@wraith quiver the case would turn on?

[boreal arch]

Hello, I’m looking to buy a pc and I was wondering if a Ryzen 2700 paired with a RTX 2060 is good for streaming.

Also, if anyone can recommend a good (pre-built or DIY) pc for ~1000 that would be awesome!

Only requirements are that it has to be a white case and be good for streaming games.

[jade dock]

which games are you gonna be playing

all though that is a good pair for streaming

bc the rtx 2060 will have a nvec encoder

but if ur gonna play games like valorant/league or csgo then that pair should be plenty

[boreal arch]

Warzone, Minecraft, Overwatch, Borderlands 3, Ark: Survival Evolved for the mayority of the time😅

Also, plan to play at 1080p

[jade dock]

ok

umm

yea

youll get 100 fps if ur streaming

on like warzone

and maybe 100 on ark/borderlands

if ur streaming

[boreal arch]

It is? I have been looking at info on the CPUs for a while now, but since the last and current gen have been 3000 and 5000 I haven’t read or seen much about 2000 to know if it will be good enough.

[jade dock]

but i havent benchmarked them yet

whats ur budget?

[boreal arch]

1000

[jade dock]

oh umm maybe wait for the 5000 series to get in stock

[vital warren]

build = 3600 + 3070 for 1k

[jade dock]

that might take 2-5 months

[vital warren]

a lil over actually

but worth

not really if you pay attention

worth over a 2060

[fallen escarp]

dm me if you need help building a pc smiley face

[vital warren]

there's a channel for a reason

[jade dock]

turw

[boreal arch]

Thing is, I would like to buy it before christmas😅

*Clarification:

It’s for my daughter😅*

[vital warren]

ohhh

i want to buy my stuff too, but stock for almost everything is absolutely terrible right now

( more specifically cpu/gpu )

[boreal arch]

Thank you!!! Will certainly remember this!🙌🏻

[fallen escarp]

poggers

[boreal arch]

?

Am I in the wrong place?

[vital warren]

you're in the right place

[sinful hornet]

i mean, i wouldnt exactly reccomend dm'ing someone for a build when thats what this entire discord is for basically

[vital warren]

i was just saying how stock sucks

for some pc parts

[sinful hornet]

one person wont have the same knowledge that 10, or 20 do

[boreal arch]

I have seen that, that’s why I also thought about pre-built (even though i know it is bad)

[vital warren]

i mean, some prebuilds should be on sale right now

[boreal arch]

Oh okay, thank you!

[vital warren]

so it's not a terrible idea

[jade dock]

if ur gonn aget a prebuilt tho get a nzxt one

[sinful hornet]

what

[stoic island]

nah

[boreal arch]

Ohhhh, i understand now

[stoic island]

In general, with prebuilts, you're always spending ~100-200$ extra but eh

[still bay]

whats a good 1000 ish dollar prebuilt

[little osprey]

Digital storm makes nice pre-builts

[sinful hornet]

the nzxt one having no airflow on top of that

[still bay]

ik ik ik but my friend doesnt want t obuold it himself

[still bay]

no they dont

[sinful hornet]

AAA DONT BUY PREBUILTS

stop asking for good ones

that doesnt sxxist

they're all bad

[boreal arch]

Is there one that works with my budget?😬

[still bay]

nzxt bld is decent

u dont knwo what ur talking about @sinful hornet

[sinful hornet]

what do you mean

they have to make a profit somehow

[little osprey]

Just built your own man its not all that difficult

[still bay]

nzxt bld is literally same prices as a custom but just 100 dollar build fee

thats literally it

[sinful hornet]

so its going to be more expensive

[boreal arch]

x2🤔

[still bay]

ITS NOT FOR ME STOP BEING STUPID READ WHAT I JUST SAID

[sinful hornet]

that $100

mate

[jade dock]

but build ur pc

you save way more

[sinful hornet]

^

[stoic island]

@still bay and their setups are pretty bad

too

[sinful hornet]

yes

[stoic island]

so uh

meh

[little osprey]

Build it for him

[boreal arch]

then the best of the worst?

[still bay]

i understasnd prebuilts are bad the pc is not for me my friend does not want to custom build it i tried to convince him

[stoic island]

There's some decent prebuilts on newegg

[still bay]

hm maybe true

[still bay]

ty

[stoic island]

nzxt is meh

[sinful hornet]

im not sure about prebuilts, never done any research into them but someone might be able to give you a link

[boreal arch]

Link?

[stoic island]

example, open box, but pretty good
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala218-master/p/N82E16883102989R

[still bay]

im goign to talk to him and see if he will be willing to let me build it for him

[stoic island]

1050$ new

3600+2060 super for 850$ is really good actually

[little osprey]

"120 plus fps"

[stoic island]

but it's open box

[boreal arch]

So I was searching Amazon and I have a question. Which is better:
Ryzen 5 3600 + 1660 Super 6GB

or

Ryzen 5 2600 + RTX 2060

[little osprey]

Lol

[jade dock]

i wish 3600 would just drop to 200 already

[earnest olive]

who knows how good the psu and ssd are 👀

[stoic island]

@boreal arch neither, at least 3600+2060
https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-arch3-0-0056-ne-archangel/p/N82E16883289049

[earnest olive]

@jade dock i5-10400 / i5-10400f are an option

[stoic island]

@earnest olive meh, when you're doing prebuilt, psu/mobo/ssd quality goes out the window

there's no real way around it

[little osprey]

That case looks like a hot box

[jade dock]

yea true

[earnest olive]

yes exactly

[stoic island]

it's a prebuilt

[earnest olive]

i'm just wondering how much that would change the perceived value

[stoic island]

I can't find the ones with the decent rosewill mesh case

[earnest olive]

it's definitely a good price for a prebuilt

[stoic island]

mhm

[boreal arch]

WOW! I have been searching at the wrong place🤦‍♂️

[stoic island]

Found it
https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-ala220/p/N82E16883102991

this is the one with the decent case

[boreal arch]

Question with the build though:,

I have read that you should always get a pc wtih 2 ram sticks and atleast in the pics it only has 1

[whole harbor]

S

[stoic island]

Yes

@boreal arch take at that one I just linked

it'll be better

[boreal arch]

Is it true that 2 is better even if they amount to the same amount of ram

[stoic island]

Yes

[whole harbor]

yes

[stoic island]

Dual channel ram has a pretty big impact on performance

[whole harbor]

ye

[boreal arch]

If so, how bad is it if it’s one or what is the performance lost or negative part about it?

[stoic island]

like

20% performance cut

[whole harbor]

Nzxt has a bad $700 pc

[stoic island]

it's pretty noticable

[whole harbor]

One reason is that they use one channel ram

[earnest olive]

performance lost can be more than 70% in some cases

mostly in the lows

[stoic island]

it's a very noticeable loss

[boreal arch]

What do you mean? It looks cool?

[jade dock]

yea but the 2700 is only 40 more

[stoic island]

The case on the previous one looked like it wouldn't give much airflow

[earnest olive]

speaking from personal experience, before i knew anything about computers, i had an asus laptop with a gtx 1050 and 1 stick of 16gb ram single channel

[stoic island]

@jade dock 2700 sucks for gaming tho

[earnest olive]

i played league of legends on it

[stoic island]

like

[earnest olive]

with the single channel ram it would average 100 fps but dip to 25 sometimes

[stoic island]

I had one

[jade dock]

oh

[stoic island]

I have 3dmark benches with a 2700 as proof

[earnest olive]

i changed the ram to dual channel 2x8, same ram capacity

[hoary lichen]

Do you think this is in good condition if theyre selling it for 179?

[earnest olive]

went up to 145 average fps with dips down to 120

[stoic island]

@hoary lichen read closer, it's bidding

[earnest olive]

@jade dock yeah the 2700 vs 10400f in gaming perf is not even close

[hoary lichen]

But i can also make an offer

[jade dock]

i feel like its a ripoff

[earnest olive]

10400f will destroy 2700 in gaming perf

[boreal arch]

It looks like it has 2 ram sticks roght? Is there one where the case is white?😅

Sorry for asking so much of you guys, but thank you so much!

[stoic island]

it's a bid

@boreal arch sadly no, but I would definitely suggest that as of now

[boreal arch]

😱💀

[hoary lichen]

🗿

I mean i guess it is

[earnest olive]

@boreal arch it can be a lot more than 20% like i said

[jade dock]

come back in 5 days

[stoic island]

20% on average is a safe place to put it

[jade dock]

and which one is the better streaming cpu amd or ryzen

[stoic island]

single channel kinda sucks

[earnest olive]

in my case the lowest frame dips were 25 fps single channel vs. 120 fps dual channel

[stoic island]

Haven't had it myself, but from testing that I've seen, it's like 20% difference on average

[earnest olive]

that is a performance loss of 79.2% on the lowest dips

31.0% average

will differ based on situation

either way, you should never consider single channel ram

[wraith quiver]

He said if something wasn’t compatible everything would turn on, sounds like BS

[stoic island]

Anyways, we can agree on single channel ram sucks, dual channel is good.

[boreal arch]

That’s okay, if it’s better performance I’ll figure something out!

[jade dock]

can someone give me a good intel board for under 100 and can use 3000mgz ram

[earnest olive]

nope doesn't exist

[wraith quiver]

lmao

[jade dock]

wait can the b460 support 3000mgz ram

[earnest olive]

nope

[stoic island]

@wraith quiver Then ask him why you can't boot a PC without a CPU :P

Because an incompatible CPU is basically no CPU

[earnest olive]

you'd have to go down to Z390 with 8th/9th gen to be able to get 3000mhz ram under $100

[stoic island]

@jade dock support 2666 max for i3/i5

2933 max is only for i7/i9

[jade dock]

what

danm

[earnest olive]

i5-10400f with b460 and 2666mhz ram is still about the same gaming performance as a 3600 with b450 and 3200mhz ram

[hazy rune]

You can use higher. It’s just not factory

[earnest olive]

but with z490 and same ram it is a bit higher

[stoic island]

yea

[hazy rune]

Most boards go up to 4000 on intel for z390

[earnest olive]

@hazy rune no, that only applies to Z series boards. b and h boards are hard locked to 2666mhz on i5 and below

[wraith quiver]

@stoic island No but that wouldn’t affect your fans if our other parts work

[jade dock]

oh ok

[hazy rune]

That’s true

[jade dock]

thanks

[wraith quiver]

He said

[jade dock]

thank u so much ima save so much now

[earnest olive]

there are no Z490 boards under $100, there are Z390 boards under $100

but those are incompatible with the CPU he wants

but also, B460 will still deliver similar gaming performance to the equivalent 3600 + B450 platform

[jade dock]

wait can you make the b460 work with 3000mgz ram

[earnest olive]

it will work, but you won't get 3000mhz ram

it'll automatically downclock itself

do you already own said 3000mhz ram?

[stoic island]

@wraith quiver It's a circuit, without a CPU, nothing will work.

[jade dock]

no

future porposes

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YzmxFT/kingston-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-2666-memory-hx426c13pb3k216 this ram would give you optimal out-of-box performance on an i5 with a B460 board

you want 2666mhz with lowest possible timings

[whole harbor]

Can b450 with 3100 handle 3200mhz?

(B450 v2)

[earnest olive]

2666 CL13-15-15-35 @1.35V

[jade dock]

wait so a i5 cant work witha z390

[whole harbor]

Depends

[earnest olive]

Z390 is for 9th gen

[jade dock]

oh yea

[earnest olive]

i'd take an i5-10400F + B460 + 2666C13 RAM over i5-9400F + Z390 + 3000C15 RAM any day

[jade dock]

so should i get a i5 9400

oh ok

[whole harbor]

ig

F version cheaper

u just cant ic

Oc

[jade dock]

wait should i geta pro 4

[little osprey]

would a ryzen 5 2600 and a rx 5700xt work together well?

[jade dock]

or a pro max

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DAOKOfan/saved/D8CNcf

xd

[stark bramble]

lmaooo

wait

3600 out of stock?

no way

[earnest olive]

it is in stock... for $279 🙂

[stark bramble]

lmfaoooo

[earnest olive]

the price of 3600 has been hyperinflated for quite some time now

[stark bramble]

yeah why is 3600 so expensive

sometimes its 200 sometimes its 300

[earnest olive]

hence why i have been pointing so many people towards the 10400F

[stark bramble]

[stoic island]

lol nice

[stark bramble]

used to be 160

[earnest olive]

throwback to me getting my 3600X for $143

those were the days

[stark bramble]

lmao

[jade dock]

should i get a pro 4 or a pro max b460

[earnest olive]

@little osprey at 1080p your cpu would be holding you back a bit

at 1440p or higher it'll be fine

[little osprey]

ay hi

[slow nimbus]

Hey guys, any advice on this build_

[little osprey]

I wanna get elite role

[slow nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2T9cMv

[earnest olive]

don't expect to be able to overclock with that pitiful cooler

[slow nimbus]

This is my first gaming pc I just want to make sure i got everything right

[stark bramble]

monitor is bad deal

[slow nimbus]

Not planning on overclocking

[earnest olive]

i don't think that cooler will even handle the stock 10700K

[little osprey]

Cpu is good

[stark bramble]

the mobo is kind of overkill

[little osprey]

@earnest olive I currently have a ryzen 5 2600 and a 1660 super, Would that mean i should uprgrade my cpu or my gpu, all i want is 144 fps on high/ medium settings for cold war and warzone

[earnest olive]

gpu for sure

[little osprey]

that monitor

[slow nimbus]

Thanks for the feedback, the monitor is actually not the one im planning to purchase

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08FNYJLWV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

thats the one im getting

[earnest olive]

why'd you put a different one in the list then

[slow nimbus]

didnt show up

[little osprey]

lmfao

u could have put nothing then idk

[slow nimbus]

It was only to have an approximation of the final price

[earnest olive]

@slow nimbus https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTKX2V

[stark bramble]

hell, you could even get a 212 evo

[earnest olive]

212 evo on a 10700K is a little sus

[stark bramble]

oh really?

ok

[foggy hazel]

212 evo = no in general

[stark bramble]

[earnest olive]

it's at a good price right now

[slow nimbus]

cool, thanks

[earnest olive]

but underpowered for a 10700K

[stark bramble]

coulndt u get a a p1 2 tb instead of the adata for 20$ less

[foggy hazel]

its a overated and overpriced cooler imo (the 212 evo)

[earnest olive]

the SX8200 is significantly better than the P1

[stark bramble]

ah

[earnest olive]

this is not exactly a budget build

no reason to skimp

[stoic island]

gamaxx 400 >:P

[sharp perch]

Ello fellow gamers im tryna get a gaming pc that is really good for gaming and working projects my budget is 1k euros hope to get a response:)

[earnest olive]

not a fan of the fixed color leds on the gammaxx 400s

and the one without any leds looks to be out of stock

[stoic island]

gammaxx gt

:P

[earnest olive]

out of stock

[sharp perch]

How you doing mr1111

[jade dock]

whats a good cpu cooler for under 30

[sharp perch]

:(no one wanna help me

[stoic island]

good, you?

[sharp perch]

Oh

I’m okay I guess

Tryna safe money for a pc

[stoic island]

@sharp perch what country

[earnest olive]

@sharp perch you realize that part lists take more than 30 seconds to make right?

[sharp perch]

Netherlands

@earnest olive but I’m bad at picking parts

Always don’t know what to get and than I’m thinking to myself like tf you doing

[earnest olive]

so... don't complain nobody is helping you after 30 seconds lol

[sharp perch]

Okay

[foggy hazel]

last time you wanted a list @sharp perch there was so many changes and restrictions tied to it

[sharp perch]

I know

I’m sorry naed

[foggy hazel]

and you know the procedure

[sharp perch]

My life choices arnt good

[jade dock]

whats a good cpu cooler for under 30

[sharp perch]

I’m just a kid

[foggy hazel]

so, start by listing ALL the restrictions

[sharp perch]

Tryna join my friends

What do you mean naed?

[stark bramble]

what stuff you dont want

[stoic island]

What do you need it to do

anyways, I'm thinking this plus a GPU
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/DDGPz7

[foggy hazel]

and what company restrictions are there this time?

[sharp perch]

I mean I would like it to be a website that fits with my country

Like idk alternate

Or azerty

[stark bramble]

mr1 how does pcie gen 4 work on b550 mobos

[sharp perch]

Or another website that fits with my country

[stoic island]

Yes

@sharp perch look at that list

everything is for NL

[sharp perch]

Okay

Where the gpu?

[stoic island]

pricing all out of wack nowadays

so whatever 500euro GPU you find when you're actually about to buy it

[sharp perch]

True

Okay thx

For the help

:))

And I’m sorry

To naed and everyone who helped me

[jade dock]

this a good cpu cooler

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005O65JXI/ref=pd_luc_rh_sspa_dk_huc_pt_expsub_3?psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExMTlSRFdHNUpKWFNUJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDE2NDgwMk5VTDdQNjc2RlBQVyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjgxNTMxSlZXTFhNQlBHRENNJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfaHVjX21yYWkmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

[stark bramble]

naed doesnt like that one lol

[jade dock]

oh

what about this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B081DH9RRJ/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A1TG24VCRPTZ06&psc=1

[stark bramble]

mr1 likes that one

[jade dock]

saw on a utube vid

[stoic island]

yes

very good

gammaxx 400

[jade dock]

willl it work witha i15 10th gen

i5

[deep skiff]

yeah

[stark bramble]

yo nachos

ur alive

[earnest olive]

@sharp perch https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/sn34NP have fun

[jade dock]

less goo

[stark bramble]

i have a question

[earnest olive]

uses only alternate, azerty, and megekko.nl

[jade dock]

is the i5 10400 and the 1650 a good pair

[stark bramble]

what are some good tactile kb switches

[earnest olive]

might as well go i3-10100 and 1650 super @jade dock

[jade dock]

why

[stoic island]

@earnest olive huh 10400f is a pretty good price eh

[deep skiff]

#peripherals-and-displays

[earnest olive]

better balance than 10400f + 1650

better gaming perf

the 1650 is too weak to need the 10400f

[deep skiff]

1650 just kinda sucks in general unless u dont have pcie cables

[jade dock]

i have an extra 20 should i get the 1650s

[deep skiff]

yes

[jade dock]

super

[earnest olive]

yeah the 10400f with 2666c13 ram should be competitive with the 3600, but there's not enough room in the budget to justify Z490

[jade dock]

think i found a good deal

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1650-AERO/dp/B081Q738XW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=OYHLERGRYK9H&dchild=1&keywords=1650+super&qid=1606509313&sprefix=1650%2Cindustrial%2C148&sr=8-3

[earnest olive]

in stock on january 4

lol

[jade dock]

what

oh

[earnest olive]

[jade dock]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08934QJNQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

this a good motherboard

[earnest olive]

should be fine

up to an 10400f

but if you're looking at 1650 supers you should prob just go i3-10100

[jade dock]

how much more better is the 10400 than the 10100

[forest sky]

hey i was wondering if this board need to be water cooled because it has a watercooling input and output on top on the Vrms or will it passively cool like a normal heatsink, thanks

[jade dock]

it only has 2 less cores and 4 less threads

how much is the ryzen 5 5600

?

[whole harbor]

6 cores

12 threads

Not all abt cores and threads tho

[jade dock]

no much does it cost

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zpHWrr

how is this build with peripherals

[marsh gorge]

can somebody give me any pointers on this?

also ik theres no gpu on there, im waiting for 3060

[jade dock]

nvm

[slender portal]

Can someone answer this question for me? I am trying to put together a new motherboard and processor, I am intereseted in the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, it is listed as a 2nd gen Ryzen processor. Seems like all the motherboards I am finding support the 3rd gen AM4 but doesnt say anyhting about the second. Will the second gen work on those?

[stiff gust]

99.999% of ones that support 3rd will support second

B450,b550,x570,b350 all support 2nd gen ryzen I believe

(These are chipsets) so it won’t vary by manufacturer

[foggy hazel]

the safe bet, is b450

there are b550's that dont support it

[whole harbor]

Naed how difference is performance betwen 3100 and 3200g

@foggy hazel

[slender portal]

I was looking at the B550 so that is good to know, how Would I tell?

[foggy hazel]

@slender portal check the manufacturers page for the specific model of mainboard. there will be a support list that shows what it supports

3100 is faster by a fair amount @whole harbor

[whole harbor]

Mk

[foggy hazel]

3100:
zen2
smt

[whole harbor]

Just gotta wait for 3100

Price

To go down

[foggy hazel]

3200g
zen+
no smt

[whole harbor]

And 1660 super asus to fo to $230

[marsh gorge]

naed can u check my msg

[foggy hazel]

you have not sent me anything @marsh gorge

[marsh gorge]

i mean in the chat

sorry that wasnt worded very well

[foggy hazel]

it looks okay

[marsh gorge]

does a b450 support 3rd gen ryzen?

[foggy hazel]

its a small shame with the ram

[marsh gorge]

how do you mean?

[foggy hazel]

with a bios update it does support it

[marsh gorge]

is that easy to do?

and what do you mean by a shame with the ram?

i dont mean to sound needy im just curious

[foggy hazel]

i would personally prefer 3600 ram, instead of the 3200 that is in that bundle

re: bios update: yes, its generally simple enough to do. It depends a lot on the mainboard how simple it is.

[marsh gorge]

oh yeah, i was going to get 3600 but i decided on the 3200 as there are a few deals and overall it wont make an awful lot of difference to me

[slender portal]

@foggy hazel I found one that says it supports what I am looking at thank you for the info

[foggy hazel]

but, why are you asking about bios update? the x570 supports the x3700 in the bundle out of the box

[marsh gorge]

never mind, i just realised i opted for an x570 instead anyway

[foggy hazel]

@slender portal check the manufacturers website. Always.

@slender portal because they are the ones that get yelled at if something is wrong. The sellers? not so much

[slender portal]

Great point

[marsh gorge]

im trying to make sure everything goes smoothly and i dont want to mess anything up, this is my first build and its not the cheapest either

[foggy hazel]

@marsh gorge are you in the US?

[marsh gorge]

UK

[foggy hazel]

make a pcpartpicker list then :)

[marsh gorge]

okay

[urban oyster]

sooo.

[foggy hazel]

it will give you a much clearer view on what the cost can be

[urban oyster]

how does one fix error code 12... for gpus?

[foggy hazel]

by giving google more info to search for @urban oyster

[marsh gorge]

@foggy hazel https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbZcMv

just incase you were interested

[rancid pasture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7RGj2 thoughts on my budget pc?

Is everything solid for the price point? Tried my best to get every dollar worth

[marsh gorge]

thats a pretty good ssd for a budget pc

im not saying go less

but at the end of the day 2.5" ssd's are still fine

[rancid pasture]

Is there anything you would change to skin the price down by a little?

[marsh gorge]

the ram, if you go onto my list, check out the one i put on there; i think its cheaper than yours

but it may be region locked

[little osprey]

is https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144322 or https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi/p/N82E16813144261?Description=X570&cm_re=X570-_-13-144-261-_-Product better?

[urban oyster]

so i keep getting pnp-fatal-error

pnp-detected-fatal-error

[marsh gorge]

might need to driver rollback if you can

i googled it and thats what it says

[urban oyster]

sigh...

[marsh gorge]

how long you had your pc?

[little osprey]

if i’m wanting to get a triple monitor setup how would i go about setting that up since my pc only has one hdmi and a vga output

[marsh gorge]

actually yeah me too, i think you can get an external adapter

that splits the signal

but im not entirely sure

[potent prairie]

🥳

[little osprey]

Or just get new gpu

5600 x “

?

i’m getting the AOC 24g2 monitors, 3 of them, would the splitter mess up the refresh rate or anything?

they are 144hz

[severe zephyr]

First time builder here guys, I wanna build a pc to run cyberpunk in max settings, is there a ballpark for how much I might be spending?

[little osprey]

probably around 1000~1300Usd

not 100%

[sinful hornet]

1 component down, many more to go

[little osprey]

Td500 ?

[potent prairie]

3800x. Sale and 5600x was oos :/

[hoary lichen]

Bro im trying to find a good deal for the 5600xt

[little osprey]

Nice

[hoary lichen]

For some reason i found a 1660 super for 250

[karmic trellis]

Is the Ryzen 7 3800x a good match for the 3080, or should I look for a faster CPU?

[hoary lichen]

Idk

Many people pick it tho

[torn lagoon]

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 Is this decent ram i have no clue what to buy

[little osprey]

No

NO

Are you intel based or amd @torn lagoon

[torn lagoon]

AMD I believe

[little osprey]

Ok

Then crucial balistik 3600 MHz cl 16

^^

[timber isle]

Can someone suggest a good mobo and power supply to go with this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Sonar129/saved/6y8cbv

[torn lagoon]

My motherboard is an ASUS Z-97-A

[little osprey]

That’s intel I believe

[timber isle]

Z series is intel

AMD is B and X I think

right?

[little osprey]

Yes

[little osprey]

I will add them

[timber isle]

thx

[torn lagoon]

ohhhh my bad

ur right its intel

[little osprey]

Ok well what cpu do u have

[tiny oriole]

@loud pecan sorry for the random @ but what you mining? Eth?

Really nice setup though

[little osprey]

Is corsair cx750m good

[torn lagoon]

its an i5

[little osprey]

What gen

Of i5

I need to know for the ram

[urban oyster]

i finally figured out why i kept getting that damm error.

[stoic island]

@little osprey CXm has coil whine

[little osprey]

What’s a good psu

Then

[torn lagoon]

I am not at my computer right now but i believe it is a 460 or a 4060

[stoic island]

CX is good

[little osprey]

Ok

[little osprey]

how old is ur pc cause if its a 460 thats first gen

[torn lagoon]

its like 3-4 years old i believe

[urban oyster]

oh cool...

love no stock...

and no options but one...

looks like i'm going with blood red.

[little osprey]

@stoic island I’m not sure he is looking for ram and I’m not good with low end CPUs

And this is for @timber isle is this list good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wGFPz7

Or any help

👍

maybe go 750w on the psu

[urban oyster]

see i only mine eth with platinum hammers.

or try to....

[little osprey]

Ok

[stoic island]

Hi

I5 460..?

[torn lagoon]

i believe

[little osprey]

I’m not sure

Also is this list good @stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wGFPz7

[urban oyster]

i found my tesla k80 can actually detect and error out to the fact it has 4x4 power...

it angers me so...

[wraith quiver]

Newegg shipping sucks

[stoic island]

That's a mobile processor
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/50179/intel-core-i5-460m-processor-3m-cache-2-53-ghz.html

[wraith quiver]

Newegg shipping sucks bad

[stoic island]

Decent

[wraith quiver]

not really

2 weeks shipping is stupid

[stoic island]

@little osprey I mean Phanteks amp 750w is same price

@wraith quiver depends on the situation

[little osprey]

Is it good tho

[wraith quiver]

and then the +10$ is so that is definitley gets there in 2 weeks

[urban oyster]

i found that the error i was getting for pnp was related to the fact k80's need a "special" cable for 4x4 to 8 pin psu power.

[stoic island]

I got stuff shipped from Cali to Indiana in like 4 days from newegg

[wraith quiver]

That’s dumb

[urban oyster]

to directly feed the dang k80.

[stoic island]

Iirc free shipping too

[wraith quiver]

Amazon does like next day delivery

[torn lagoon]

thank you

everyone

[urban oyster]

according to the manual of the k80.

[stoic island]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[urban oyster]

well here's the thing.

in the past i had a psu that had a 8 pin psu connect.

and that fed and no error on it.

[stoic island]

Huh

[timber isle]

amazon is an anomaly

[urban oyster]

so my suspicion is that is indeed the issue.

[foggy hazel]

is that about the amp?

[stoic island]

Is pinout different between like 6+2 and 8 pin..?

[little osprey]

Yes

[urban oyster]

indeed.

[little osprey]

B.

[stoic island]

Interesting

[timber isle]

also thanks @little osprey, second thoughts though. is 650 Watts really all I need?

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey the AMP is a very good psu.

[urban oyster]

pinout for 4x4 actually will fit k80 but give error code 12.

[little osprey]

That’s what I’m trying to figure out

K gimme sec

[stoic island]

Oh interesting

[mystic needle]

what’s the difference between a bunch of companies selling the same radeon rx 6800xt model

[urban oyster]

so i need to now purchase a cable to convert 4x4 to 8 just to pass the error code.

for mining.

[timber isle]

anyone else? Is 650W enough for this build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wGFPz7

[wraith quiver]

no

bad

[stoic island]

@mystic needle they are different models, just the same chip.

@timber isle Phanteks amp 750w is the same price for the PSU

[mystic needle]

oooh

[urban oyster]

what is bad?

[timber isle]

is it as good quality?

is the corsair good quality?

[mystic needle]

so is there a difference? like in terms of performance?

[stoic island]

Yes

Both good

[wraith quiver]

@timber isle compatibility problem

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island rm is only 5 year aint it?

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VvrGj2 @timber isle

[timber isle]

ok thanks, I think I'll go AMP just for safety

[stoic island]

@mystic needle Not directly, but better cooling means it'll boost higher and means it'll perform better

[mystic needle]

ohhhh

[stoic island]

The GPU chip itself is the same 6800 from AMD.

[weak field]

someone tryna make a 850 list

[urban oyster]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-0049-000X7
just going to buy this to pass the error code.

[mystic needle]

makes sense

[little osprey]

I put the amp in there

[weak field]

i made one for fun and i wanna see how accurately good it is

[urban oyster]

be like...

[foggy hazel]

post your list instead @weak field

[timber isle]

ok, thanks

[urban oyster]

yeah.... i ain't dealing with that...

[timber isle]

now to find it in stock somewhere

[weak field]

i dont want it fixed

i just wanna compare

[little osprey]

Well send it

I wanna seeeee

B E A N S

Didn’t ask

.

B E A N S

[little osprey]

Send the list

[slow nimbus]

Ok guys I ended up going with this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/24ckwz

What do you think_

?

[stoic island]

@slow nimbus Enermax very bad for AIOs

Gunk buildup

[slow nimbus]

I ended up finding some things cheaper so it came to a total of about 1500$

[stoic island]

That keyboard is interesting

[little osprey]

dont 30 series go in stock today at 3pst?

[foggy hazel]

@slow nimbus that difference seems like too much.

[stoic island]

Motherboard way overkill

[slow nimbus]

I bought some things in combo

on newegg

[stoic island]

That ram is interesting

[slow nimbus]

and got some rebates as well

the mobo came in combo with the i7

saved 70 bucks on that

[stoic island]

Either way I don't like the ram and I suggest heavily against that aio

Otherwise fine

[slow nimbus]

Hmm, regarding the liquid cooler someone recommended it to me earlier here

[stoic island]

On the liqtech 1 and 2
https://youtu.be/rlTlCV1AgoA

Another one
https://youtu.be/HC1kzO_gIp4

[slow nimbus]

damn

[stoic island]

So I don't want to trust any Enermax aio atm

Anyways, something like an Arctic freezer ii is a pretty good aio if you want a replacement

[loud pecan]

Yeah ETH or whatever’s profitable. Waiting for all the 4GB cards to get kicked off soon.

[tiny oriole]

Oh nice

I've been experimenting with my gpu and I wanna make me own dedicated rx 580 rig lol

[slow nimbus]

gotcha, thanks

regarding the ram, what is it so bad about it_

?

its my first build so theres a lot i dont know yet

[stoic island]

I've had a really bad time with that kit of ram, and smth like a g.skill aegis is the same price

[slow nimbus]

I see

One last thing, you thing that psu could handle an rtx 3080 if end up picking up one of those?

[little osprey]

also why not go with 3600 instead of 3200

[stoic island]

Meh, Intel doesn't need it

[slow nimbus]

this

[stoic island]

750w will be fine for 3080

[slow nimbus]

cool

[stoic island]

@slow nimbus I'm telling Atom

[slow nimbus]

i know

i was backing it up

ive heard only ryzen need the high mhz

[stoic island]

Quoting and saying "this" makes it sound like you're questioning it :p

[little osprey]

yeah ryzen craves off of ram speed

[stoic island]

Ryzen like IF

IF like ram

[slow nimbus]

i was tryna go for a ryzen 5 series 5000

but there is just no availability

ive got enough of a headache with the rtx 3000 series

[stoic island]

Ye sad

[slow nimbus]

ideally id like a 3070 but would take a 3080 if available

as long as it doesnt come from a scalper

[stoic island]

Ofc

[frozen axle]

if my ram doesnt work with my motherboard for whatever reason right i wont be damaging any of the parts right?

[nimble crater]

not too likely, it'll range from errors, to crashing to not posting at all

[frozen axle]

alright ty

[floral walrus]

Does anyone know if the gigabyte x570 UD supports case rgb? I see a 4 pronged header but the connection itself only has 3.

[foggy hazel]

@floral walrus mainboard manual has the answer

[wanton cliff]

Hey y’all, I’ve been here before, anyways:

I have a friend who wants to get a PC rn. He has $1200 for parts and peripherals. I have a R5 3600 and 16 gigs of 3600 speed ram that imma gift to him for free for this build. Gaming and light streaming. Suggestions pls?

[foggy hazel]

so, just to verify, he will get a 3600 and ram for free from you @wanton cliff ?

[wanton cliff]

Yes

G.Skill TridentZ 2x8 @ 3600mhz, to be specific

[foggy hazel]

any specific requirements on the mainboard side of things?

[wanton cliff]

Nah

[foggy hazel]

and you are located in the US right?

[wanton cliff]

Correct

[foggy hazel]

so, no need for wifi?

[wanton cliff]

I’ll get him WiFi if he needs it

But otherwise no

I’m pretty sure he has Ethernet

[foggy hazel]

i ask, because its fairly trivial to grab a mainboard that has it

how is his monitor situation?

[wanton cliff]

Needs one

[foggy hazel]

because that could be a good place to use the money you are saving him

[wanton cliff]

Good point

[opal stratus]

What’s the recommended wattage for new GPUs?

[wanton cliff]

750

[opal stratus]

Ty

[foggy hazel]

650/750/850

for the 3 tiers respecitively

[wanton cliff]

Can’t wait for the 3080Ti

[foggy hazel]

based on current performance and power limits, it is not going to be interesting

re: case: any idea what style he would like?

[wanton cliff]

No idea

He is coming from an Xbox One S so anything will be good to him

Maybe NZXT white?

[foggy hazel]

that is an expensive case, to actually make into a good case thou

[wanton cliff]

His room is dusty so at the very least it needs good filters

[foggy hazel]

because the base model is not good

[wanton cliff]

Yeah ik

I’m not saying it has to be NZXT just that NZXT’s version of white is good

[storm flume]

ASRock B450M PRO4 AM4 AMD Promontory B450 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard and AMD RYZEN 5 3400G 4-Core 3.7 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD3400C5FHBOX Desktop Processor. This is my first build

[wanton cliff]

What’s it for and budget

[storm flume]

It won't post, and the fan will run for 15 seconds and then restart

[wanton cliff]

Oh

[storm flume]

um, just wanted a entry level build to do development stuff on

[foggy hazel]

@storm flume most likely bios support

[storm flume]

but oddly, it says it got update to bios 4.3 , (it has a sticker), but even still i'm 90% sure it's old bios

[foggy hazel]

it needs P3.60 for the 3400G

[storm flume]

thank you, i needed confirmation. It's weird because I thought it was bios, but it even has a sticker on the outside that says its supported for 3000x series

gotcha, so having the higher bios is a problem

thank you very much for your help

[foggy hazel]

no

3000 series support = bios version P3.60

so, IF the bios is updated, it should work.

so that is not the problem.

and for that board, having a higher bios version is not a problem.

so the fault/error is most likely something else

[storm flume]

hmmm, could the ram be too high of a frequency -
CORSAIR - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2PK 8GB) 3.6GHz PC4-28800 DDR4 DIMM Unbuffered Non-ECC Desktop Memory Kit

[foggy hazel]

@wanton cliff you giving him the stock cooler too or?

[storm flume]

yeah, the stock cooler

[foggy hazel]

no, ram will just clock down @storm flume

re: cooler: not for you @storm flume :)

[storm flume]

alright, i guess i will be doing some troubleshooting

[foggy lily]

Does anyone k now of a $800 build that will fit in this case? https://www.newegg.com/white-montech-x1-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00012?Item=9SIAK91BP89584&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAK91BP89584-_-11272020

Also is that case fine for airflow?

[mystic needle]

does anyone have any recommendations for pc soundbars?

[foggy hazel]

@mystic needle try and ask in #peripherals-and-displays

@wanton cliff any idea about monitor size preference too?

[little leaf]

Naed have any Idea why my laptop wont connect to my new network

[foggy hazel]

@storm flume double and triple check all the connections

@little leaf not without more details

[storm flume]

okay, good to know

[little leaf]

Upgraded to a nighthawk rx5700

[foggy hazel]

@storm flume for a new builder, its very easy to overlook something that you "think" is obvious

[wanton cliff]

@foggy hazel no, probs just a 27 inch will be fine. Like I said, he is coming from an Xbox, where 30fps is the norm

[foggy hazel]

so, 1080p on a 27inch would be okay for him then?

[little leaf]

The pc is a 6th gen ux303u asus notebook

[wanton cliff]

Probably

[foggy hazel]

is the nighthawk set to enable AC support as default @little leaf ?

because it might be forcing AX only

[little leaf]

Ill try that

[foggy hazel]

@wanton cliff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hMhjW3 <- that is an option for a setup

the main challenge will be the 3070

and there is ofc some leeway in case price

[wanton cliff]

I can set up a bot

[foggy hazel]

the AMP psu comes and goes in stock all the time, so that is not a problem

and you can use that plus the extra leftover in the budget to juggle on the monitor choice @wanton cliff

[little leaf]

Naed would I change it by going through default gateway?

[wanton cliff]

I may even be able to get a 1440p monitor for him if I look hard enough

[foggy hazel]

aye, i believe so @little leaf, i am rusty as all heck on consumer network stuff thou.

@wanton cliff the 1200 was with the monitor right?

[wanton cliff]

Yeah

All peripherals

[little leaf]

Aight Ill check back later

[foggy hazel]

@wanton cliff https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ndZzK8/viewsonic-vx2768-2kpc-mhd-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vx2768-2kpc-mhd <- i am not personally a fan of VA panels, but that is a solid option too

which would give you this list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mp7Crr

which still sneaks in under 1200

and yes, you would still need mouse+keyboard

but again, there is leeway etc in case

[wanton cliff]

Got it

[foggy hazel]

and ofc, the 3070 is JUST a place holder

[wanton cliff]

I’m setting up this build for him so if I can’t get him kb+m then I will pay for it myself

[foggy hazel]

its any 3070 that you can get your hands on at a reasonable price

[wanton cliff]

Ofc

[foggy hazel]

:)

[wanton cliff]

Ty for your help

[foggy hazel]

@little leaf have you had a good look in the manual?

[rapid orbit]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rkmx9N what do you guys think of this combination? the gpu is still to be determined and storage would be from a past system.

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome @wanton cliff, and best of luck with the build/gift :)

[wanton cliff]

Thank you!

[sonic pasture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KXg6Bc is this a good list for gaming and streaming

[rapid orbit]

I'd say it looks pretty good

but I'm no expert

[slow nimbus]

Okay guys I finally went all in and got all the components for my pc

got a couple of sweet deals

[sonic pasture]

nice

[slow nimbus]

on new egg

[rapid orbit]

what did you get?

[slow nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QdBrcT

Im only lacking the rtx 3070

[sonic pasture]

oh thats pretty cool