#building-and-recc-chat

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inner mortar
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yee

arctic jungle
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go for it ig

inner mortar
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also it will tease my friends who all hate apple

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lol

stoic island
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Pro4 is better than ds3h as a board too

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I'd just go with that list :P

ornate solstice
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Ok

inner mortar
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so is the 3600 better price to performance than 3700x?

ornate solstice
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What’s the difference between a bronze power supply and a gold

stoic island
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Hm? That's just efficiency rating, doesn't really matter, the quality of the actual model matters

little osprey
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it's the level of efficiency of the power supply

stoic island
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CX is a very good unit

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RMx is a bit better but more expensive too

arctic jungle
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midrange builds I like ion+

stoic island
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CX is cheaper :p

arctic jungle
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looks sleek

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yeah

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but the cx rgb...

pseudo forge
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Anyone seen any 6800xt online yet?

arctic jungle
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i've never actually seen one of corsair's rgb psus

stoic island
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Yea I haven't seen them being sold yet

ornate solstice
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The Rmx 80+ gold cost lest by a penny

inner mortar
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hey guys do you think it would be smart to start off with on 16gb stick of memory with the intention of upgrading later?

stoic island
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Do not go with a single stick

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It's a bad idea

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Go at least with 2x8gb and upgrade later

inner mortar
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or just go for dual channel

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ah ok

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thanks

ornate solstice
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@stoic island do you know of any better looking cases than that?

stoic island
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@ornate solstice it's just good airflow

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I'd rather get performance than looks first

ornate solstice
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Wait so the case that I had doesn’t have good airflow?

stoic island
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I've heard the dlm cases are hard to work with, and it only comes with one fan so

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Mx330-g air comes stock with 2 fan front and one back

ornate solstice
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Wait it comes with one fan I thought it didn’t come with any

stoic island
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If it comes with none that's even worse

ornate solstice
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Well yeah but I was buying the rgb fans

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I’m still buying those uphere rgb fans I wasn’t counting them as part of the full price

stoic island
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uhh

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I'd rather not

ornate solstice
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Ima look for cases and then tell you and then you let me know if it’s good or not

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Wait why?

covert cipher
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I am a first time gaming PC builder and have some questions about the hardware that I am getting and if I will be getting the most out of my oarts

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parts*

stoic island
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Personally I don't like messing with rgb, and uphere seems iffy

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Well uphere is the usable one asiahorse is the really iffy one

ornate solstice
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I’ve already seen like 4 YouTube reviews they say its actually pretty good for its price

stoic island
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keep mixing the two up

ornate solstice
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And I like rgb I’ve built a complete rgb build for my friend and it was a nightmare but fun

glacial umbra
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rgb psu is too far lol

inner mortar
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u should get ikea rgb strips and just stick them inside ur case

glacial umbra
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most cases has a power supply whatever the hell it's called I forgot

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cover?

inner mortar
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can u get an rgb processor

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that'd be too far

stoic island
glacial umbra
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.

stoic island
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(April fools joke btw)

glacial umbra
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no I bought it

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just bought it right now

inner mortar
glacial umbra
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I was so scared for a second and then I saw 100 cores and I was so happy

inner mortar
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its alittle pricey dont u think

glacial umbra
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that's a great deal, it includes lawbreakers!

ornate solstice
stoic island
glacial umbra
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yes thats the word I was looking for

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Lol

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good April fool's joke

stoic island
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ya

glacial umbra
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oh god

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my sister needs to stop putting the switch in the dock

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ignore the dust, it's an old lamp/shelf

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OH GOD ITS UPSIDE DOWN

fleet pagoda
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@stoic island can u check out my parts list im finally getting a pc

stoic island
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I'd get a SSD, and change the ram to Crucial ballistix

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otherwise good

fleet pagoda
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Alr alr ty ty

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Idk if i can afford an ssd actually

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Im alr over budget could install one in the future

glacial umbra
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you're probably better off getting an SSD first than a hard drive

remote junco
glacial umbra
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so that you don't need to reinstall windows

remote junco
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Good or bad deal?

glacial umbra
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that's CAD right?

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right?

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lol

remote junco
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What's cad

glacial umbra
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I'm joking

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it's Canadian money

remote junco
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Oh lmaoo no😭

ornate solstice
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@stoic island I think I’m just going to spend the extra like $5 and get the Cooler Master MasterBox MB311L mainly cause it looks cool and I’ve heard a lot of good things about it

glacial umbra
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is it worth the extra money for the more expensive 5700XT?

ornate solstice
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No

fleet pagoda
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I out the ballistix ram and a ssd

glacial umbra
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even on sale, it's still decently more expensive

inner mortar
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does 90usd for a 1tb usb sound worrying to you or is that normal

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*ssd

fleet pagoda
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Idk

glacial umbra
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where are you buying from?

ornate solstice
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And what brand

inner mortar
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just browsing pcpartpicker

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Crucial P1

glacial umbra
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that sounds reasonable

fleet pagoda
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So that ssd i picked out it ok?

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Idk anything abt them

glacial umbra
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yeah the samsung ones are reliable

fleet pagoda
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Pog

inner mortar
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looks like it has heaps of great reviews

glacial umbra
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you could wait for a sale on the samsung ones as well

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they drop a decent amount when on sale

fleet pagoda
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Pogu

ornate solstice
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Quick question so the case I’m buying comes with 2 fans should I buy another fan that is the same as the 2 that comes with it or 1 from a different brand

stoic island
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@ornate solstice yea that works

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I'd get all the same fans so control isn't weird

ornate solstice
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Ok

little osprey
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are nzxt mobos decent?

stoic island
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no

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bios crap

tawdry lance
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b550 aorus pro ac or b550 aorus elite ax?

stoic island
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why not elite ax :P

tawdry lance
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Not sure what the differences are since both are similar price

jagged ember
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one has wifi, one doesn't?

tawdry lance
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they both have wifi

jagged ember
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ah

tawdry lance
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one has wifi 6 while other has wifi 5 if that matters

jagged ember
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ehh

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wifi 6 supposedly faster

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i don't have any wifi 6 capable devices though

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so it's kind of like a future investment thing

tawdry lance
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Pro supposedly has better vrm i think

blazing aurora
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what's the best monitor below 100$

jagged ember
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not a professional at mobos, i dunno how much google will help either lol

stoic island
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what

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I can check VRMs if you want

tawdry lance
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Yeah that would be nice

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Also is there a difference between the elite ax and elite ax v2

stoic island
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lmfao

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@tawdry lance v2 looks to have worse vrms for some reason

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elite ax og and pro ac have the exact same VRMs

tawdry lance
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I can get the pro ac for 10 usd less than the elite ax. Should I still get the elite ax

stoic island
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I'd get elite ax

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160 usd iirc

arctic jungle
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elite ax has better wifi i think

stoic island
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alright I'm back

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time to look at specs in more detail

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looks like elite better idea

tawdry lance
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What makes the elite better?

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Just the main points that are significant

snow wagon
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I should also add that I’d like a cooler that doesn’t need to be replaced should I grab say a 9900k in the next four months or so. Hypothetically speaking.

tawdry lance
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Also, where do you see the elite ax for 160 i only see it for 170

stoic island
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lemme see

little osprey
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mr1111 do you have a 700$ build by any chance?

tawdry lance
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Aorus pro ac is 160 and aorus ax is 170 for me

stoic island
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Better wifi, USB 3.1 internal header.

tawdry lance
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Whats the best way to see the what internal headers are on the mobo?

stoic island
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spec page

snow wagon
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Wait why did my first comment/pics not post. Ppl prolly like tf is this guy talking about?🤣

summer pasture
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I set up a fan curve in msi afterburner and pressed apply but it doesnt do anything, any ideas?

stoic island
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hm?

snow wagon
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My MoBo is MATX, and I’m pretty sure the case is ATX, but I’d like to upgrade my cooler sometime soon. Any suggestions? Or maybe advicebb by on how to properly check dimensions so I know what I get will fit? I was thinking a 240 AIO, front mounted with the middle and top fans. Idk

stoic island
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afterburner fan curve is only for GPU

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@snow wagon what case?

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and CPU?

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Easiest way to find dimensions is to just look up the case and find it

fleet pagoda
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Heading to best buy today to buy some parts

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Pogu

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😛

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The the p400a come with fans

tawdry lance
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Am I blind because I can not find where it says that the aorus elite ax has internal 3.1 usb header

stoic island
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@tawdry lance even on the Newegg spec page, usb 3.2 internal header

glacial umbra
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Ah I'm disappointed

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still have to play at 60hz with my new build until I can afford a new monitor

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any recommendations for a good budget 144hz monitor?

arctic jungle
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@glacial umbra 1080p?

little osprey
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im pretty sure rootech made a video on budget 14hz monitors

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@glacial umbra

arctic jungle
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v budget

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but good enouggh

glacial umbra
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yeah

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1080p

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@arctic jungle that one looks decent, thanks

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is the acer nitro vg240y any good?

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I just saw that one on sale

arctic jungle
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wrong emoji

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oops

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idk

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send a link

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i'll c he kc i tout

tawdry lance
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Wait don't both aorus pro ac and elite ax have internal 3.2 usb headers though? so how does the elite ax have the advantage mr111?

hasty gyro
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will a ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck a 3080

arctic jungle
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no

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@hasty gyro minimally

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on 1080p

hasty gyro
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wondering for 1440p 144hz

arctic jungle
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2k is ideal resolution

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yes

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very small bottleneck

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and you can always upgrade ur cpu in the future

hasty gyro
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how small is 'very small' lol

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yeah true

arctic jungle
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like... 3-4% at most?

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you can't rlly measure a bottleneck

hasty gyro
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yeah true

arctic jungle
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cuz there isn't any performance to BE lost

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it's all relative

little osprey
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So this display thing with my build still dont work

odd saddle
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hey all - I'm needing to build a new machine - hoping this is the best week to do so, but really need some recommendations for hardware that 'goes' together.. and video card thoughts - as I can't find much of anything in stock?

hasty gyro
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okay thanks antago

odd saddle
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any constructive advice is welcome - thanks - I need to build something fast and VR worthy - gaming and video editing.

hasty gyro
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where in the world do you live?

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us?

odd saddle
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<- Canada

hasty gyro
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okay so canada computers has a lot in stock rn

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lol they have a 3080 near me

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anyways

odd saddle
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oH! I am north of the GTA so hopefully they do!

hasty gyro
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i dont know too much about vr builds, but maybe someone else does

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wait whatttttttt?

odd saddle
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really it just needs a very heafty video card

hasty gyro
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where in the gta??

odd saddle
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currently getting by on a 1080 but it's days are numbered

hasty gyro
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yeah that could be upgraded

odd saddle
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we are an hour northeast of GTA, but they will ship to us

hasty gyro
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lol man im IN the gta

odd saddle
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i was aat newegg today (hence trying this discord) and found almost no video cards of 20 or 30 series in stock

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I'll check canada comps - thank you!

hasty gyro
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yeah they usually have a good amount

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for vr though i dont really know what would be good

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i know that the radeon 6000 series has better multi threaded rendering than the nvidia 3000 series so idk

tawdry lance
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Wait don't both aorus pro ac and elite ax have internal 3.2 usb headers though? so how does the elite ax have the advantage mr111?

stoic island
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I don't see a 3.2 internal on the pro ac

glacial umbra
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I think most Canadians are in the GTA lol

stoic island
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Either way ax has way better wifi than ac

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It's a 433mbps chip on the ac

tawdry lance
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number 14 is what usb 3.2 interal header right or am i wrong

stoic island
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Ye, for some reason the Mobo sheet said it didn't have one

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Dunno why

tawdry lance
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will ax wifi chip even help if my internet is slower than 400mbps?

stoic island
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~400mbps is just ~50MB/s

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if you ever upgrade to better wifi than 50MB/s, which is quite likely

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you'll want better wifi chip.

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(mbps is megabits per second, MB/s is megabytes per second, and MB/s is the number you commonly see with like game download speeds on steam)

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the 802.11 ac protocol depending on the wifi chip could do ~1200mbps

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but that chip on the pro ac, is quite slow.

stark scroll
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700-800?

little osprey
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Alright i need some help. So last night i finished my build and it was working fine. Displayed, got windows running but after like 10minutes it just stopped displaying. Vga light on mobo turned on. I got blue screened by windows three times now. And now it wont even display

fossil halo
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oof

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um idk bro

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wait also are the fans on the top of the case suposed to be exhaust or intake

little osprey
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Exhaust i think

fossil halo
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but then whats the point of the dust filter on the top

little osprey
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Thats why i said i think lol

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Could be intake then

charred herald
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Good morning guys! I need some advice on which parts to buy from Newegg to build my new PC. I run charts of stocks and currency all day long. I have six monitors I use. Have few algos that crunch data calculations throughout the day. However, I have to use a smart computer from campus for in depth data crunch.

fossil halo
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and does it have to be newegg?

charred herald
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I was just told to get a 16gb RAM. I have found some 16 (2x8) and 32 (2x16 and 4x8)

fossil halo
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and also how much is your budget

charred herald
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It does not have to be on Newegg. I seeking sources with holiday deals but I am not limited to that

fossil halo
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oh ok what is your budget tho

charred herald
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$1500+

ornate solstice
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Is the msi 5700xt mech oc a good gpu?

stoic island
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nah

fossil halo
stoic island
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I'll think of something

charred herald
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I have never use the website before

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I’m not very technical when it comes to parts. I don’t know much about msi

stoic island
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It's good for compatibility

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@ornate solstice There's a reason that it's cheap :)

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thin heatsink

ornate solstice
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What about the asrock phantom gaming d oc 5700xt

stoic island
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it's decently good

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@charred herald so, some CPU based calculations?

charred herald
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yes please

stoic island
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hm

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@charred herald when will you build it?

stoic island
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@little osprey reset cmos maybe

charred herald
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building it as soon as possible

stoic island
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hm okay

little osprey
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Tried that

stoic island
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try to get another GPU to try

fossil halo
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mr111 i have a quick question

little osprey
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It displays but once it starts loading into windows it just starts rebooting the system. Not the whole pc it just turns off display and then turns on and keeps doing that

fossil halo
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is it a healthy fan layout

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to have 2 intake in the front one exhaust on the back and then 2 exhaust on the top

stoic island
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@charred herald Do you need wifi or will you use ethernet?

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hm

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@little osprey you sure it's not the monitor/cable?

charred herald
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i use both. could you elaborate why you are asking?

jagged fern
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I have an HP prebuilt and i want to upgrade the case because the thermals are horrible. The Motherboard wouldnt work in the new case so, if I replcaced the Mobo would that effect anything i kept in the system?

little osprey
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It was working fine. Last night.

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I tried both display and hdmi ports

stoic island
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@charred herald All motherboards have ethernet. Some motherboards, usually slightly more expensive, have wifi.

little osprey
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Is there any way to delete windows from bios? Or sum

stoic island
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you should be able to wipe the drive from bios

little osprey
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Doing that rn

stoic island
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hm

little osprey
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Now im gonna try to reinstall windows

charred herald
stoic island
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@charred herald Yea, next, you have 6 monitors that use HDMI/DVI correct?

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tryna think how I want to try and go about displaying them

charred herald
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looks like they are hdmi and vga

little osprey
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Yeah no i get to the windows loading logo and then blue screen or it just reboots

stoic island
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So, would you rather have 2 GPUs and plug everything in directly, or just get one GPU with displayport, and then get like a DP to HDMI hub?

little osprey
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Also cpu light is on for some reason

stoic island
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weird

little osprey
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Then it goes to vga sometimes

stoic island
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Reset cmos a couple of times already correct?

little osprey
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Yeah when i do cpu light turns off but still i cant get past windows logo loading screen without it restarting

stoic island
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Yes

charred herald
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haha

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sorry

stoic island
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It's fine

charred herald
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i really do not mind how it is connected as long as it is good quality picture

stoic island
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(as a splitter/hub thing)

charred herald
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this would compensate for the lack of hdmi ports of the gpu i am assuming?

stoic island
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On a single GPU yea.

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Multi-GPU can get fairly messy, so I'd prefer a single GPU and then use splitter/hubs

little osprey
stoic island
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@little osprey what about bios?

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@charred herald You live in the US correct?

charred herald
little osprey
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In bios it works fine just after that is when it happens

charred herald
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Yes i live in the US

stoic island
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hm? on any decent hub/splitter thing, no

cursive magnet
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@little osprey Picture of the inside of your case?

charred herald
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i have a usb hub in the past and it was HORRIBLE even though it was a good quality one from BBY

stoic island
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huh interesting

little osprey
stoic island
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god damn these hubs are expensive

little osprey
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Now its the boot light thats on -_-

fleet pagoda
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Is an ssd needed for gaming

stoic island
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@charred herald Welp, to start off, take a look at this list, this is really overkill, but it's something to start on. I'm currently looking into how hubs and all really work so I'll get that to you soon, that GPU has 3 displayport outputs and 1 HDMI output.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nm4V4d

fleet pagoda
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Or is an hdd better

stoic island
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HDD is never better

fleet pagoda
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Alr alr ty

charred herald
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@stoic island haha i am a little ashamed to ask this because i feel like i am not cool ... what is the definition of the term "overkill" ?

stoic island
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Over-specced for the tasks you'll likely be doing

pearl blade
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in terms of pc, when your build or component is much more powerful than what you intended to use it for

stoic island
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For example, 10600k is pretty damn strong for just putting up charts and such, and doing some pretty heavy calculations

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NH-U12a is extremely over-specced for just running a 10600k stock

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that's an extremely capable cooler

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The motherboard is too, I was a bit lazy and choose a decent looking wifi board

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Ram wise, 32gb is likely over-specced, but if you want to pull up a bunch of different things on 6 different screens, it might be nice

charred herald
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🙂

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thanks a million for all this explanation

stoic island
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:)

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Oh yea, storage you could expand upon

charred herald
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so I hear that amd is better than intel

stoic island
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And it's all out of stock ;)

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that's why I asked "when do you plan on building" at the start

charred herald
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my laptops ran on Ryzen

stoic island
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a lot of people simply can't wait the two months or even more until 5600x and such comes back in stock

charred herald
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omg it is all of stock

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?

little osprey
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where do you guys recommend buying windows at for the cheapest possible

stoic island
little osprey
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do they all work

stoic island
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a large amount do

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there's also just not activating windows

little osprey
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ik but i hate the messahe in the bottom left lol everything looks better without it

stoic island
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@charred herald For all the new ryzen chips, 5600x, 5800x, 5900x, 5950x, it's al out of stock, and constantly selling out once they restock

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It's a bothersome affair to get any one of them

charred herald
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hmm is the higher the number the better or more capable the product?

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are the ryzen 7 any good?

pearl blade
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kinda of yes, and yes

stoic island
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@charred herald I suggest you don't look at products that way, it leads to confusion down the line when you look deeper into things.

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"r3 r5 r7 r9" and "i3 i5 i7 i9" at the end of the day are just marketing terms

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Doesn't say much about the product

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for example, I would much rather have a r5 5600x than a r7 1700x

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The main deciding factor is what exact monitors are you trying to run?

charred herald
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what do you mean>

charred herald
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right?

little leaf
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ni

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no

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the number infront is the generation

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@charred herald no

stoic island
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@charred herald I'm sorry to say, but PC parts aren't that simple :(

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It's better to do a model to model comparison instead of saying "higher number = better"

woven arch
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how do u guys feel about this?

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wont give me problems right?

little leaf
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The 5600xt is not work 320

woven arch
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how much do u think it should be?

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i am prob not buying these yet

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waiting for price to go down

little leaf
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a 2060 is better and at 300 dollars

woven arch
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i cant find a 2060 for 300

little leaf
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Because next gen is coming out

woven arch
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😦

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is everything else fine?

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ill just buy wtv gpu is available when i am out

gaunt igloo
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Was going to buy 3070 but I would need new monitor, psu. I’m probably going to by a 5700xt or 2060

little leaf
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then just save

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till when you can get a 3070 and monitor

soft solstice
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Anyone have a better recommendation for a modular keyboard besides the GMMK

charred herald
little osprey
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@gaunt igloo nice sticker on your power supply

charred herald
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so should i wait until the Ryzen restock?

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or can i build one with the intel and then swap the intel for the ryzen

next kestrel
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wait for ryzen restock

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so you dont need a new mobo and so that u dont have to save the cooler boxes and mounts

tawdry lance
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Would you reccomend the 4000d airflow or lancool215

brazen slate
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Hm.

midnight jasper
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4000D

woven arch
cursive magnet
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@charred herald You could get a 3600/3600xt now and upgrade your processor later as long as your mobo will support zen3

cerulean stream
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hello

cursive magnet
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🙋🏼‍♂️

cerulean stream
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how is everybody doing today

fossil halo
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i am doing quite well my good sir how about you

cerulean stream
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no complaints to report today

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i am a first time builder and i jsut put together a parts list, i was wondering if anyone could tell me if these parts are compatible

charred herald
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mobo?

cerulean stream
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asrock b365 pro4

cursive magnet
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Motherboard.

charred herald
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oh ok

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how can i verify if the mobo will be compatible?

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@stoic island gave me a list of parts to buy.

cerulean stream
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here is my parts listhttps://newegg.io/04a97d9

upbeat lodge
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Is this a good build

cursive magnet
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@cerulean stream That RAM is overpriced. FYI, it’s much easier to build in pcpartpicker

upbeat lodge
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What do I need to change

still bay
#

what would have better performance a 3900xt or a 10900k?

upbeat lodge
#

3900??

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I think

cerulean stream
#

ill take a look at pcpartpicker

cursive magnet
#

@upbeat lodge Might change your mobo as it’s a microatx

upbeat lodge
#

Mobo??

cursive magnet
#

@still bay Depends on what you’re doing

upbeat lodge
#

Gaming and editing

cursive magnet
#

Motherboard @upbeat lodge

upbeat lodge
#

Oh

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What about the price tho

#

Will it go up

still bay
#

MAYBE light streaming or video editing

#

but im sure a 10900k can handle that

cerulean stream
#

wow pcpartpicker is already saving me money! @cursive magnet

cursive magnet
#

@still bay I would say the 10900

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BUT, they’re both massive overkill

still bay
#

i just want a cpu that i wont have to upgrade basically ever

cursive magnet
#

@cerulean stream Now buy better parts for the same budget

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@still bay Spend the money on a great motherboard then

stoic island
#

Hey @charred herald I'm back

cerulean stream
#

@rugged yoke thanks!

stoic island
#

@cursive magnet but the performance won't be :D
10600k can beat 3600xt by a good bit

cursive magnet
#

I was mainly giving him a ryzen option, because he seemed to favor that path

stoic island
#

@charred herald anyways point is, Intel is still very good, current Ryzen just beats it by a bit, not enough to justify having to swap mobo

still bay
#

for platform

#

its x470 counterpart right?

#

in terms of higher end

cursive magnet
#

@still bay That’s only if the 11th gen will be compatible

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X570

still bay
#

i meant to say x570

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intel has said that z490 will support 11th gen intel

cursive magnet
#

@still bay That’s where I’d put the money vs processor. You could drop all the way to a 10600 for gaming

still bay
#

im good

#

so for AIO im deciding between the 360mm ekwb one or the corsair elite capellix

#

ekwb outperforms the corsair rihght?

stoic island
#

@charred herald about parts to buy, do you know what exact monitors you already have, and do you have a preference between the 1-to-3 splitters or the 1-to-2 splitters?

cursive magnet
stoic island
#

eh, out of stock rn

still bay
#

nah

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ik arctic is best performance but at a certain point u need to account for looks

stoic island
#

buying an AIO in general is accounting for looks smh

cerulean stream
#

can i get away with using

#

no graphics card?

stoic island
#

why

jagged ember
#

Lol sure

cursive magnet
#

@cerulean stream If you only want to run minesweeper

jagged ember
#

But graphics performance will be ass

stoic island
#

Any games will just

#

be horrible

jagged ember
#

You'll literally only have the ability to display your desktop in high res

stoic island
#

@cerulean stream what's the purpose

cerulean stream
#

to save money for processor and ram

#

the computer will be for audio editing

jagged ember
#

No gaming?

cerulean stream
#

no

jagged ember
#

Hm

stoic island
#

Then I'd get 10600k

jagged ember
#

No video editing either right

cerulean stream
#

we have a VGA monitor

stoic island
#

brb

cerulean stream
#

no viceo

#

video editing

stoic island
#

and also

#

audio editing should like higher freq ram

glacial umbra
#

@waxen obsidian lol I recognize that canada computers

#

what're your build specs gonna be?

cerulean stream
stoic island
#

well I was thinking 10600k as the CPU

#

but 10400 would work

#

10400 is just a lower bin, still 6 core 12 threads, double the threads as 9700k

charred herald
#

give me a few minutes... reading on this

still bay
#

prob get 3600mhz ram instead

#

i dont exactly want a o11 but the only other case i've found that i like (4000d) doesnt seem to support 360mm rad

stoic island
#

uh

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td500 mesh

#

@still bay what monitor are you trying to get

still bay
#

"only other case i've found that i like" i dont like the look of the td500 mesh

stoic island
#

just put in G27q then lmao

#

ick

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screw o11 imo

still bay
#

ik

stoic island
#

you can front mount 360mm rad in a lot of cases

still bay
#

i dont exactly want it

stoic island
#

meshify c

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p400a

#

p500a

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maybe even 4000d

#

I wonder

still bay
#

idk if 4000d has enough sapce

#

in the front

fleet pagoda
#

Best buy had no parts i wanted

#

F

still bay
#

and top is only 240/280

jagged ember
#

Still pretty big tho

stoic island
still bay
#

oh bet

#

so its between p500a and 4000d

#

whats the difference between DRGB and ARGB

stoic island
#

Yes those two are good

still bay
#

ik digital and addressable

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but

stoic island
#

uh 4000d airflow doesn't come with rgb

still bay
#

ik

#

thats why i have ll120's in there

#

oh i could even top mount the rad if i wanted to on a p500a (not sure why i would)

jagged ember
#

Heat convention

#

Probably

stoic island
#

p sure drgb and argb are the same thing

#

just dif names

still bay
#

heat rises so it makes no sense

stoic island
#

both are for the 3pin 5v header afaik so

jagged ember
#

Kinda does tho, no?

still bay
#

no

#

why would i want to push hot air into my rad

jagged ember
#

Heat rise, put on top

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Disappate hot air

still bay
#

wut

stoic island
#

Also remember how air flows

jagged ember
#

Is real late where I am

stoic island
#

fresh air from the front of the case is gonna reach half of the radiator

still bay
#

the airflow of my case would be left then up/right

jagged ember
#

Brain function limited

stoic island
#

remember that air doesn't sit around

still bay
#

should i go white or black theme

stoic island
#

it gets pulled in and the pushed out

#

black

cursive magnet
#

Black

still bay
#

mmmmm

#

idk if i like the p500a in black

#

same with 4000d

stoic island
#

Black

still bay
#

mmmmmmmmmmm

#

okay but 4000d or p500a

stoic island
#

p500a if you want to top mount rad

still bay
#

i dont really

stoic island
#

which I suggest :P

still bay
#

is p500a bigger?

#

oh

#

whatever is best then

cursive magnet
#

I was blown away with how cool the TD500 mesh was in person. The pics don’t do it justice

still bay
#

i just assumed front mount was best

stoic island
#

I really like td500 mesh too

#

@still bay by a very small margin

#

and it's annoying

#

who wants to see tubing go across the board

#

when you could have tubing just go up

still bay
#

soooo

stoic island
#

and with top mount you don't even need to worry about having pump and the tubing below the end of the rad

still bay
#

does intel favor 2x16 or 4x8

cursive magnet
#

Go ryzen and skip the aio altogether

still bay
#

me?

cursive magnet
#

Intel favors 2933 🤮

stoic island
#

neither Intel or AMD do really

still bay
#

k

#

if i just remove the gpu from the pcpp then all the sudden im in my budget!

#

perfect

stoic island
#

lmao what

cursive magnet
#

4 dimms vs 2 is roughly 10%

stoic island
#

@cursive magnet no testing on 4x8 vs 2x16 yet

#

it's 4x8 vs 2x8 so far

still bay
#

eh?

stoic island
#

your budget is 2k?

#

don't get a 10900k

#

:P

#

no need for 3600c16

still bay
#

budget is 2k+like 600

cursive magnet
#

That’s what I said!!!!!

stoic island
#

lemme just edit this

still bay
#

i really dont have a budget

#

i just saw 3000 and it was a lot

#

im just kinda putting stuff i want in a list then ill buy it

#

is the vision g a good motherboard?

stoic island
#

kept aio

#

kept rgb ram

#

hell

#

you don't need a commander pro with that

#

and save even more money

little osprey
#

Anyone have a $1300 list? My friend is looking into building a computer and has a budget of $1300

still bay
#

right i forget the ekwb come with a 3 to 1 y splitter

stoic island
#

@little osprey when are they building

#

yea

still bay
#

and does the p500a come with a fan hub?

#

or rgb hub

little osprey
#

I don't know I think as soon as possible

stoic island
#

don't remember

little osprey
#

U think they already got the money

#

I think*

still bay
#

also 700 for a 3080 is modest...

stoic island
#

@little osprey Can they wait

little osprey
#

I'm assuming so lol

stoic island
#

@still bay it's msrp

#

because stock situation

little osprey
#

True

still bay
#

eah but im not gonna get a 3080 ever for 700 dollars

cursive magnet
still bay
#

alright FINE ill go 850 watts

#

but atleast let me get a seasonic psu then

#

only bc i love the name seasonic

#

nvm they expensive asf

stoic island
still bay
#

corsair it is

cursive magnet
#

Enermax revolution DF

stoic island
#

out of stock for now

cursive magnet
#

What!?

stoic island
#

Mid dec on amazon

cerulean stream
#

ok here is updated audio editing computer build also light gaming

stoic island
#

@cursive magnet what am I supposed to see in that forum thread?

cursive magnet
#

The test videos

stoic island
#

where

#

there's no 4x8 vs 2x16

cursive magnet
stoic island
tawdry lance
#

4000D Airflow or lancool 215

still bay
stoic island
#

@still bay why do you not want a gpu

#

you're not making sense

#

:P

still bay
#

i have a 1070ti rn

cursive magnet
#

Dang. Long story short. There’s a few on YouTube that you can watch. Some had crazy “cherry picked” results. The couple that were reasonable had 10% ish improvement.

stoic island
#

:P

still bay
#

i have no clue if ill be able to get a 3080 by xmas

stoic island
#

????

still bay
#

what

#

this build is for christmas

cursive magnet
#

@still bay you can get one whenever you want, lol

still bay
#

its not my money?

still bay
#

i mean some of it is

still bay
#

i got it figured it out dw i just need help with any potential compability issues and stuff

#

also u want to know the most bs compability issue ever

#

if u use stock corsair cables in a 220t airflow and want to put a HDD in u literally HAVE to take out the hard drive cage or else u literally wont be able to fit the cables/psu in

#

with that being said idrk what to do for my cousins build my current idea is to have him get cablemod cables (modflex)? any other ideas bc thats like 100 dollars

hasty gyro
#

ryzen 5 3600 and 3080, or ryzen 5 5600x and 3070?

#

for 1440p 144hz

still bay
#

im built different so 5600x and a 3080 🥶

stoic island
#

@hasty gyro depends on pricing

#

when 3600 is priced decently

#

3600+3080 will perform better

hasty gyro
#

3600 i can get for 270 and the 3080 i can get for 999, both cad

stoic island
#

meh

#

can you get 5600x+3070

hasty gyro
#

5600x i can get for about 400 and 3070 for about 700-800 cad

stoic island
#

(pricing wise)

#

hm

charred herald
#

work is killing me... sorry for the delay

stoic island
#

It's alright

hasty gyro
#

its about the same price

#

im just wondering which will let me push to 144fps at 1440p the best

stoic island
#

@hasty gyro I would believe 3600+3080 would give you better, but less consistent performance,
while 5600x+3070 gives you lower avg but higher lows

#

that's what I believe

hasty gyro
#

how much of a difference do you think it would be

#

id prefer smoother gameplay

stoic island
#

I don't know

#

I don't have the two sets to compare

hasty gyro
#

yeah id assume so lol

#

idk im hopefully building in mid to late march so ill see what the prices are like then

stoic island
#

fair

tawdry lance
#

4000D airflow or lancool 215

hoary lichen
#

@stoic island is the 5500xt really that bad compared to the 5600xt?

#

Cause im not trying to spend 300 on a gpu just yet

#

🗿

mighty zenith
#

Yo Mr1111

glacial umbra
#

115 USD for an MSI Optix G27C4W

#

jeez

#

black friday deals 😍

mighty zenith
#

Should I consider getting a fire hydrant for my newly built pc? Just in case I try running Doom again?

stoic island
#

@hoary lichen yes

hoary lichen
#

Rlly?

stoic island
#

Why else is it a different product at a different price

hoary lichen
#

🗿

#

Man idk

#

Is the 5500xt still good tho?

still bay
#

how much fps does a 3700x and 5700 xt get

#

1080p

stoic island
#

It's just a 1650s

still bay
#

prob max graphics

stoic island
#

that's what a 5500xt is

#

@still bay youtube

still bay
#

tr

hoary lichen
#

Oh

cursive magnet
#

@stoic island If there’s no improvement how do the explain frame rate increases?

hoary lichen
#

Then what is a 1660

stoic island
#

@cursive magnet run to run varience

#

CPU boosting behavior

#

GPU boosting behavior

hoary lichen
#

In between or somethin

stoic island
#

ambient temp

still bay
stoic island
#

what the hell

#

no

#

@still bay different games perform differently

still bay
#

ik

#

looks like about 120 fps in mw max graphics 1440p

stoic island
#

so on a CPU bound game it's gonna go differently than a GPU bound game

still bay
#

do u think my cousin would consider that a "fast gaming PC"?

stoic island
#

do remember ram

#

ssd

#

oc

still bay
#

i kinda messed up on the ram

stoic island
#

:P

#

yes

still bay
#

i linked her a 3600mhz CL18 kit...

stoic island
#

3700x and 5700xt is 'fast'

hoary lichen
#

What about

still bay
#

ssd is a p1 500gb iirc

hoary lichen
#

3100 and 5600xt?

stoic island
#

you know it's a very different question for

#

"fast" for someone who hasn't had experiences with a gaming PC

still bay
#

difference between cl18 and cl16 is very low tho right?

#

to my knowledge all he has played is fortnite on his xbox one

stoic island
#

and "faster" for someone like me that stares at specs all day

still bay
#

not even the new ones

stoic island
#

meh, low enough ig

hoary lichen
#

Fortnite

still bay
#

i did link a nice asus 1080p 165hz monitor tho (like amonth ago)

hoary lichen
still bay
#

low as in like 5 fps or what

#

hes like 9 calm down

stoic island
#

Fps is a horrible tool for comparisons in general

hoary lichen
#

Alr at least make sure he knows how to manage his pc

stoic island
#

:p

still bay
#

well what is the difference between cl18 and cl16

#

or cas latency in general

hoary lichen
#

Its in the name

still bay
#

i have a feint idea but i dont know how it affects real world use

stoic island
#

3600c18 is 10ns first word read

#

3600c16 is 8.89ns

still bay
#

what is the difference?

#

it looks like that combo can run 120fps 1440p max graphics in most modern games

stoic island
#

It'll work

#

:p

still bay
#

gotta remember to account for the 50 virus's hes gonna install

hoary lichen
#

Lmao

#

Gta mod menu

#

I tried that once

#

Didnt go well

#

🗿

still bay
#

im thinking more fortnite prn but i like ur thinking

stoic island
#

Cheat engine :p

still bay
#

so but what does first word read affect

#

ive downloaded cheat engine like 20 times on this pc

stoic island
#

You know what ram does right

#

Read things

still bay
#

yeah

stoic island
#

Sooo

still bay
#

its very fast memory

stoic island
#

That's what read speeds affect

#

Everything the ram does

still bay
#

but like wdym by that

#

like

#

gotcha

#

so but the difference is small

hoary lichen
#

Make sure he dont install roblox hacks or something

#

Lmao

still bay
#

let me actually check if i even did link him a cl18 kit bc i might not have

#

i mightve caught it

stoic island
#

difference depends

still bay
#

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

hoary lichen
#

So this convo was for nothing?steveconfused

stoic island
#

nice

#

basically

still bay
#

YUP

#

issue still remains

hoary lichen
#

Wait

still bay
#

idk what to do about the cables

#

and HDD

#

also yeah it is a 500gb p1 nvme ssd

hoary lichen
#

How much are you paying for that ram

still bay
#

way overprice]

little osprey
#

Does anyone know how to get an older version of windows cause clearly the newest update is doodoo and wont let me get in

still bay
#

i got 2 options

stoic island
#

@charred herald Anyways, got any more questions or anything like that?

hoary lichen
#

Can you send the build? @still bay

still bay
#
  1. cablemod cables (100 dollars)
  2. try to see if i she can refund the case and get a like 4000d instead??
#

or p500a

stoic island
#

@still bay what's the current case?

still bay
charred herald
#

ok let me put this guy on auto pilot so i can chat some more

still bay
#

220t

#

also

#

she hasnt bought GPU, cpu or mobo yet

stoic island
#

@charred herald take your time, just @ me any time you are free

still bay
#

i also need to remember to get a mobo that has 4 fan headers

tawdry lance
#

mr111 should I get the 4000d airflow or lancool 215?

still bay
#

p500a 😎

stoic island
#

I haven't looked into lancool 215 yet

hoary lichen
#

@stoic island you should start a gig on fiverr or something be like “will pick out parts depending on your budget and where to get them for 10-20 dollars” lmao

stoic island
#

All I know is 4000d is good

#

@hoary lichen Don't have enough experience to feel comfortable with that yet :P

hoary lichen
#

Me either

#

🗿

#

Maybe ill study for like 2 more months and then ill do that

stoic island
#

study for at least another year

hoary lichen
#

😳

#

I cant wait that long

#

Im 13 trying to get money

still bay
#

plus cable mod cables or tell her to refund the case and get a p500a instead

#

really not looking forward to that conversation

hoary lichen
#

Change the ram

still bay
#

too late

hoary lichen
#

Its too over priced

still bay
#

too late

hoary lichen
#

Bruh

tawdry lance
#

Do you think 4000D airflow + 2 more 120 intakes can compete with a td500 mesh?

hoary lichen
still bay
#

"hey so ik i told u this was all gonna be compatible and work but funny story the included cables literally are so tuff and stiff they wont bend properly so u need to spend 100 dollars on new cables"

hoary lichen
#

You dont need to

#

🗿

#

Just

#

Dont bend them too much

still bay
#

....

#

that is theg stupidest thing i ever heard

hoary lichen
#

No it isnt

still bay
#

the issue is that the cables cant bend enough

#

ive literally built almost this exact thing for another friend

#

it doesnt work i had to remove the harddrive cage and his hdd is just flying free

hoary lichen
#

Lmao

#

Bruh

#

Damn

#

😳

still bay
#

ik it sounds stupid but trust me

#

i tried so many alternatives

hoary lichen
#

Thats why i stick to nvme ssd’s

cursive magnet
#

Blow dryer or heat gun to warm the cables up a bit before putting them in

hoary lichen
#

🧀

hasty gyro
#

i love the fact that i see people getting upset about 3090's being out of stock while theres a store like 20 minutes from me with an evga ftw3

still bay
#

idk if i trust that enough

#

also nvme ssd strorage is expensive lol

hoary lichen
#

🗿

cold oar
hoary lichen
#

Still like it better tho

#

No cables to mess with

still bay
#

yeah ik

hasty gyro
#

canada computers is goated

still bay
#

theres a p1 in there o

#

so

cursive magnet
#

@hasty gyro Yeah, but is it EBAY priced

hasty gyro
#

no its regular priced

#

2200

#

cad

#

theyre normal prices

cold oar
#

I just need a 3070 lol

cursive magnet
#

Scalp that sumbitch

hasty gyro
#

are you in the us?

#

no

#

i will not

cold oar
hasty gyro
#

canada?

still bay
#

difference between cablemod pro and classic kit?

cold oar
cold oar
hasty gyro
#

theres four brands for the 3090 available

still bay
#

wut

hasty gyro
#

oh wait really?

#

@cold oar where in canada?

cold oar
#

New Brunswick :/

hasty gyro
#

oh lmao

#

sorry man

cold oar
#

Hahaha

#

That's the normal reaction to someone learning you live in NB

mortal void
hasty gyro
#

i was gonna say canada computers is great for canada but

#

nb is unfortunately isolated

cursive magnet
#

Where are you at James??

hasty gyro
#

its weird

#

Ontairo

#

Ontario*

stoic island
#

@mortal void that pricing is THICC >:D

hasty gyro
#

do you think scalping is a viable option for making money lmfao

still bay
#

yes

cold oar
hasty gyro
#

lmfao

#

if i picked up a 3090, the evga ftw3, for 2300 cad, and sold it for 3000, would that be worth

#

like would someone actually buy it

cold oar
#

Probably

hasty gyro
#

yeah tbh they probably would

#

but id feel like such a horrible person

cold oar
#

It's a 3090 people aren't concerned with money if they're buying that

little osprey
#

yea

hasty gyro
#

lmao yeah

cold oar
hasty gyro
#

theyre literally already going out of stock

#

nearest is now like 6 hours away lol

#

in quebec

#

theres a 3090 20 minutes from me...

#

this one

tawdry lance
#

So should I get a 4000D airflow and 2 120 intakes or should I get a td500 mesh? Mr 111

charred herald
#

I am back

#

If i were to wait for the ryzen to restock (since it is the best in its category right now if i understood well) is it possible to build a pc right now with the parts that are available that would be also ready for the ryzen when it is available again?

stoic island
#

@tawdry lance out of the two, td500 mesh

olive kraken
#

Td500 mesh

#

is a cutie

stoic island
#

@charred herald it would be either impossible or a waste of money, because Intel is actually fairly comparible to current gen Ryzen, just slightly behind, but going Intel platform means you can't get a Ryzen chip. Going last gen Ryzen means giving up close to 20% of the performance, and buying a new chip is, well, making the purchase of the previous gen chip a slight waste of money.

tawdry lance
#

Ok mr111 new mobo question

#

MSI b550 gaming edge wifi or aorus b550 elite ax

stoic island
#

elite ax

olive kraken
#

Also a cutie

tawdry lance
#

is the gaming edge bad?

stoic island
#

no

#

I just like elite ax

sinful hornet
#

aorus boards do be nice tho

tawdry lance
#

gaming edge is 20 dollars cheaper than the ax is it still worth

olive kraken
#

Only thing I will say tho

#

If you dont like orange

#

Get you some tape. thank me later

tawdry lance
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Aesthetics is not really the biggest worry for mobo

still bay
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aorus is my favorite brand

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easily

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and zealpc

stoic island
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I mean I like it for the good VRMs :p

still bay
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i lied my favorite is zealpc

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close second aorus/gigabyte

olive kraken
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Aorus board has more usb

still bay
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wut

cursive magnet
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But really, how much usb does one need??

sinful hornet
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aorus boards have a ridiculous amount of usb's

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b550 pro has 11 usbs

olive kraken
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I like NZXT cases. Their aesthetic is nice and my temps r cool

olive kraken
charred herald
cursive magnet
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If you buy last gen then upgrade, the money spent on the old processor would be considered a waste.

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@charred herald That’s the same reason I made the decision to buy my 3070

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The price of a 5700xt, added to the list of a 3070 was more than what I found one on eBay for.

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...and didn’t have to wait

stoic island
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@charred herald To have a working machine, it must have a CPU and a compatible Motherboard.
So if you wanted a working machine, but wanted it to be usable before you could get a next-gen CPU, you must get a placeholder CPU, and the easiest way to do that is buying a last gen CPU (Like a 3600, instead of the current gen 5600x) until you can get a current gen CPU

hoary lichen
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@stoic island is this a good deal?

edgy wagon
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Anyone know of some aios with an lcd screen?

stoic island
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meh

mortal rampart
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@edgy wagon dont buy lmao

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unless you got actual money

still bay
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only one ik its the z73

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bad performance for price

mortal rampart
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asus sells one too