and i agree
#building-and-recc-chat
earnest olive
that is the worst looking mobo i have ever seen
i would rather have a green pcb than whatever that abomination is
brazen slate
Hah
stoic island
I like it :(
earnest olive
hell i would rather have one of the disgusting yellow pcbs from the old socket 7 days
brazen slate
sexy
brazen slate
Yellow PC build ☺️
viral ore
that board looks great
brazen slate
Yeah, ig
earnest olive
techie colored motherboard... LOL
stoic island
I like the gaming x's design over Asus' orange accents lel
brazen slate
Not the usual "lol hahaha we only have black and uhh, white."
earnest olive
i like my motherboard, it looks like a slab of black
little osprey
3 techies in one chat at the same time 
stoic island
X570 unify
stoic island
@viral ore do not
brazen slate
Honestly there's literally just black mobos everywhere
stoic island
Invoke the brick bios
viral ore
i saw this one board that had the cpu socket on the opposite side of the board, stupid idea, but they also put a ton of the SMDs on the back too
brazen slate
10400 smh
earnest olive
though if you're spending extra for the Z board you might want to spend the extra $20 for 3600C16 as well, but if you don't it's not a big deal
brazen slate
What board from? @viral ore
mild cosmos
the orange lighting can turn to white so it's fine
Ohh i remember dose the b550 aorus pro solve the usb problem?
earnest olive
wanton wagon
not my convo
earnest olive
basically just faster ram
raven fog
is there any mobo under €100 (z390) 4 channel ram?
viral ore
raven fog
slot sorry
viral ore
ignoring the cpu socket, they should do motherboards like this
because
then the front looks like this
brazen slate
But CPU cooling
earnest olive
@raven fog would this work? https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07HS4XS93
little osprey
literally looks like legos
brazen slate
lol ye
raven fog
lemme see
wanton wagon
does cpu clock matter a lot
earnest olive
no
wanton wagon
mk
brazen slate
It looks like it literally is made from so many legos
earnest olive
there's a lot more factors in cpu performance than just clock speed
manic tapir
earnest olive
you can't post links yet so dm me whatever you were trying to link @raven fog
stoic island
Lancool ii mesh good case
raven fog
oh i wus just saying thx haha
raven fog
☞￣ᴥ￣☞(＾3＾♪
earnest olive
like i said, it's fine but you can consider faster ram for $20 more as well
depends on if you care about that extra $20
earnest olive
if you do 1080p60 this will prob last more than 5 years
wanton wagon
im going to upgrade my monitor eventually to 1080p144 but i'll cap at 70 in certain games
144 for csgo and the likes
70 for metro exodus
earnest olive
oh yeah this will definitely do 1080p144 in esports
wanton wagon
obv
earnest olive
will do way more than that
my gpu is only half as powerful and gets 1440p240 in league no problem
wanton wagon
im honestly getting this build to play metro and fallout 4 and resident evil and minecraft pocket edition
little osprey
gpu?
wanton wagon
ive lived with 60hz my entire life
raven fog
can an f series intel cpu be oveeclocked?
earnest olive
it should be able to do 100-120 fps in metro exodus
wanton wagon
i dont think my virgin eyes can handle 240
earnest olive
if it's KF yes
wanton wagon
nice
earnest olive
if it's just F no
raven fog
ah k thx
earnest olive
F just means nonfunctioning integrated graphics
K means overclockable
KS means you have more money than sense
granite barn
how do i get windows 10 key for cheap
earnest olive
T is thermally constrained for small form factor office PCs
earnest olive
^
wanton wagon
am i allowed to talk about pirating stuff here
little osprey
imma need a link for a somewhat legit post
earnest olive
probably not
stoic island
Is it really pirating
wanton wagon
not really
stoic island
When it's just buying keys from eBay
wanton wagon
a little cmd prompt magic and boom windows 10 pro
i may have done it a dozen times or so
stoic island
Meh
little osprey
im waiting till i build my pc to buy windows key
manic tapir
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DqFzPV I think this is the build I will end up making. Any thoughts?
stoic island
Less annoying then doing cmd/regedit to get rid of watermark and such
earnest olive
@manic tapir https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xJrTMv
manic tapir
@earnest olive what’s the difference between the gpu’s? would the one with two fans run cooler? also a more expensive ssd?
earnest olive
would consider a 5600XT if you don't need nvidia features
fallen escarp
when i get this, what do i need to change in order for it to disappear?
manic tapir
what about a 5700 xt?
earnest olive
basically means it gets really bad as you fill it up
if you can afford it then yeah 5700xt would smash 2060 in gaming perf
manic tapir
they are around the same price but i am hoping the price will drop
earnest olive
cursive wharf
so like $30 more
earnest olive
$385 for a decent triple fan model rn
earnest olive
there's another 5700XT for $350 but it's a hot and loud dual fan
little osprey
earnest olive
yeah
i would much rather pay the extra $35 for a better cooler
though i have open backed headphones so i care about noise during gaming too
little osprey
i got that one -_-
earnest olive
if you have noise cancelling headphones you could just run that with super fast fans and probably be fine
it's by no means a bad product
manic tapir
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HWbCmG/msi-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-mech-oc-video-card-rx-5700-xt-mech-oc what’s the difference from a 2 fan and a 3 fan gpu?
earnest olive
i just personally like spending a bit more for a better cooler
little osprey
well tbh i dont really care for noise
earnest olive
better cooler = lower temperature or less noise at the same temperature
i find it's worth the $35, not everyone does
manic tapir
i don’t care too much for the noise that is what headphones are for
earnest olive
my headphones are open backed
fallen escarp
what do i have to change to get rid of this?
earnest olive
@fallen escarp how many drives do you have?
little osprey
i mean the msi is at a really low price right now
earnest olive
if you aren't using literally every sata port on your motherboard, you can ignore it
fallen escarp
<@!279395844669702144> how many drives do you have?
two currently, just an SSD and an HDD
earnest olive
then ignore it
raven fog
is golden field a sketchy psu brand?
fallen escarp
k
earnest olive
never heard of golden field before
raven fog
ah k not gonna get that then lool
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DkYnp2 this is my build. just waiting on the ram, gpu and mobo
earnest olive
good build
little osprey
been waiting to get one for a while now
manic tapir
how does one determine what wattage psu to get?
raven fog
is there any 600w psu thats like budget enough without ketchup and mustard cables?
80 plus i guess
earnest olive
wattage isn't the end all be all of power supplies
stoic island
Evga BA 500w
manic tapir
so 650w 80+ gold for a 414w system is good?
manic tapir
i just heard from someone that you want to double the wattage of the system to make it the most efficient and safe
stoic island
Well that's not really how it works..?
earnest olive
efficient? sure maybe
safe? no
stoic island
Most efficient on most PSUs are at about 80% load afaik
earnest olive
and it's really not worth overspending that much for a little more power efficiency
manic tapir
well that’s good to know i could have saved some money
stoic island
Very low load would actually be less efficient afaik
manic tapir
but i can OC or upgrade in the future without getting a new psu so i guess that’s good
earnest olive
this is the curve for my psu
stoic island
Hm
earnest olive
peak efficiency is around 45 on 230Vac and 40 on 115Vac
stoic island
I thought it was 80%
earnest olive
regardless, it's not worth spending that much more
it may be for other power supplies
this is just mine
stoic island
Dunno, I'll have to look further into it at some point
earnest olive
the amount of money you save on electricity bill from the few % difference in power efficiency won't pay for the price difference of the psus for the entire lifetime of the pc
no reason to stick a $150 850W corsair rm into a $800 budget build
stoic island
And by the way, efficiency doesn't determine how clean the power is in terms of ripple and such.
That depends on the quality of the PSU.
raven fog
is the gigabyte p650b a good one?
earnest olive
it's decent for a budget unit
stoic island
P-B is a decent budget unit
raven fog
thx
manic tapir
is a powerspec ps 650gsm a decent psu?
stoic island
Equivalent to a EVGA BR
manic tapir
dang
stoic island
Try a Phanteks amp 650w at 100$ maybe
manic tapir
what about with a 5600 xt?
earnest olive
still pushing it a bit
stoic island
If that doesn't fit in the budget, NeoEco gold Zen 600w is usually like 80$ or so?
earnest olive
would pair that with like a 5500xt or gtx 1660 at most
manic tapir
so i need to get a new one and hope i can return the one i already got?
earnest olive
i mean it'll work, just not a great pairing
manic tapir
by not a great pairing you mean.... efficiency is not as good or it’ll run bad?
earnest olive
it's just a low end psu with a high end graphics card
might potentially cause problems down the line
manic tapir
you think it will last a year?
manic tapir
ok that’s good enough for me
earnest olive
i let people who are smarter than me figure out these ratings
manic tapir
well i bought it at a micro center that’s an hour away from me and i’m not sure what the return policy is but driving an hour away would suck
little osprey
what does 5700xt even compare to in nvidia gpus?
manic tapir
i heard it’s a little better than a 2060 but i could be wrong
earnest olive
my first build took me 3 hours
little osprey
manic tapir
he’s built different
astral swift
if you have water cooling and many bells and whistles then a long time lol
little osprey
yeah no air cool here
water cool seems like too much work to take care of
could also go very wrong very fast if not done correctly
little osprey
sips, you ever had to make a water cooled build for someone?
manic tapir
hi @whole harbor
whole harbor
hi
manic tapir
how was your day?
whole harbor
solid 6.5/10
manic tapir
so not good?
little osprey
gn people im off
manic tapir
well i just found out i have to drive an hour to a micro center to return a psu and get a different one
little osprey
^
manic tapir
i couldn’t agree more
earnest olive
@little osprey yeah a few
my own build is water cooled too
does my 3600x need it? no
does it look pretty? yeah
manic tapir
the NeoECO seems good sips but it would be nice to have a semi modular psu but i guess it doesn’t matter
earnest olive
honestly it's really easy to cable manage a non modular psu unless you're doing a SFF build
whole harbor
who wants 8tb for $180
manic tapir
what is a SFF build?
earnest olive
small form factor
earnest olive
here's a budget build i did with a non modular psu in a micro atx tower
whole harbor
8tb=$220
earnest olive
took like 30 minutes
manic tapir
oh ok but i don’t think i am doing that
weak field
supple needle
what is the best AIo 2020
weak field
i am up
manic tapir
is the 1660 a good gpu?
glacial umbra
man I remember when
earnest olive
it's not bad for budget
glacial umbra
my old all in one pc
earnest olive
this build was $700
supple needle
what is the best2020 AIO
glacial umbra
ran roblox at under 10 FPS
weak field
poh
weak field
g
whole harbor
dont get the regi
manic tapir
i was thinking of getting a 5700 xt
earnest olive
doesn't fit in most cases though
supple needle
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIOwhat is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
weak field
1660ti is like 230 250
supple needle
what is the best2020 AIO
earnest olive
lol
supple needle
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
what is the best2020 AIO
weak field
calm
earnest olive
i literally answered his question and now he's spamming
weak field
down
weak field
thats debatabled
glacial umbra
yeah get a mod
supple needle
nah
glacial umbra
saw the generic anime girl pfp
supple needle
don't ban me
glacial umbra
and decided it was time
supple needle
don't lol
whole harbor
He blocked me
manic tapir
does a 1660s handle newer games like cold war well?
little osprey
Broa
manic tapir
but if i could get a 5700 xt i should?
weak field
yes
earnest olive
i mean
whole harbor
y not
earnest olive
you should just get what you can afford
manic tapir
well i am getting the expensive parts out of the way
earnest olive
well he got banned
weak field
rx5700xt is still a EXTREMELY good card for 2021
manic tapir
so it should last me for a long time then
whole harbor
the gtx 660 is the best card for 2021 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨
weak field
a good 3-4yrs
whole harbor
trust
weak field
maybe then the 3060/3060ti is gon be out and affordable by then from resale prices
manic tapir
i thought vega 8 was the best of the best of you include integrated
whole harbor
THE 710 is crazy
glacial umbra
550w would be enough for a 1070 ti and a R5 3600 right?
weak field
^^
glacial umbra
evga BA
earnest olive
hmm
glacial umbra
hmmmm
weak field
theres no rating
earnest olive
i wouldn't do it
weak field
i forget them
earnest olive
it's bronze rated
but not all bronze psus are created equal
bronze only talks about efficiency
weak field
idk if plat or white comes first
glacial umbra
it doesn't seem the worst
earnest olive
it's not a terrible unit
but i'd go for something better
would pair that with an x60 card at most
earnest olive
there are psus that say 500W that will explode as soon as you hit it with 180W sustained
wattage is not an important number
glacial umbra
it's not a peak psu
I just wanna make sure 550w in general is enough
haven't hard decided on a psu, the EVGA one is just one sale for a bit
ripe osprey
glacial umbra
BR not BA
weak field
br and bq
ripe osprey
glacial umbra
I mean
weak field
go with a 600w silver
glacial umbra
jeez
earnest olive
if you buy a 500W psu and it explodes at 180W do you still count that as good enough to power a 500W system
glacial umbra
just the price difference gets me
weak field
just like 15$ more expensive if you can get one
weak field
find one for that price
earnest olive
no protections
it explodes and takes your entire pc with it
lower price still looking good?
desert gulch
Sips weren't u gonna sleep a few hours ago?
earnest olive
no?
weak field
theres goods and bads to a bomb of a psu
desert gulch
Oh maybe it was someone else lol
weak field
i took a nap
earnest olive
i sleep pretty late usually
glacial umbra
does warranty cover that or no?
ripe osprey
@desert gulch there us no time for sleep with this
weak field
from 11 to 3
ripe osprey
glacial umbra
or is warranty just the PSU?
ripe osprey
Juicyness
desert gulch
Lol linds
earnest olive
desert gulch
glacial umbra
:(
weak field
no its 69.99
glacial umbra
I'll look at the higher end ones but jeez
weak field
save one cent
earnest olive
$15-20 of price difference is worth the peace of mind for years
glacial umbra
canada
it's about a 40 price jump
but that's not entirely wrong so maybe I'll take a peek at higher end units
weak field
and not worrying about sticking your feet in your pc case and it exploding
glacial umbra
why
weak field
wym
glacial umbra
why stick your feet it in
desert gulch
Psu is the one thing you never wanna cheap out on
ripe osprey
Set feet on fire
weak field
its a cold winter night your gaming hard with the bois (or girls)
your feet are cold, the blanket isnt working
open side panel
desert gulch
Don't you hate it when your blanket runs outta battery?
weak field
man that gpu is lookin mighty cozy
weak field
your currency is worth less so its more expensive
weak field
but they just about even out when you convert over countries(continents)
earnest olive
how much is it in cad?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qn7v6h/seasonic-focus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fm this is a very good unit for 107 cad
oh wait i still have cali sales tax filter on
weak field
WHAT
earnest olive
wait nvm i don't
earnest olive
doesn't apply on canadian pcpp lol
earnest olive
on US pcpp i have it auto calculate tax for me
glacial umbra
I can't seem to find the MWE one
weak field
us too
earnest olive
anyways might be worth looking into that 90 cad one
glacial umbra
lemme check newegg
earnest olive
500W on a good unit would be enough for your system
weak field
in the us we have auto tax
glacial umbra
canada computers is a bit weird sometimes
earnest olive
and it's a good unit
my friend in montreal has no issues there but idk about your area
weak field
you even just feel like
“man i really hate this”
glacial umbra
I can only find a third party seller who's overpricing it
earnest olive
idk man, if I didn't love computers I wouldn't be sitting here for 5 hours helping people
not getting paid to do this
glacial umbra
is the seasonic S12III any better than the EVGA one?
weak field
NO
earnest olive
not really
glacial umbra
OK
earnest olive
that psu known to do a lil boom boom sometimes
earnest olive
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zphmP6/antec-neoeco-gold-zen-500-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-ne500g-zen but yeah this one should be good for your current system
though it doesn't have a whole lot of headroom if you want to upgrade to something like a 3080
it'll power your current system fine on a budget
glacial umbra
woah
yeah 3080 is never really gonna be an upgrade for me lol
I got lucky with my 1070 ti
and got it for cheaper than usual
earnest olive
i've seen them selling for 150 usd here
glacial umbra
really?
maybe my area just has bad deals because I got it for 150
lol
thought I was getting a good deal
earnest olive
150 cad?
150 usd would be considered a good deal here
they can go for 180-200 but i've seen 150
150 cad would be a fantastic deal
glacial umbra
150 usd
not cad sadly
but it was still a decent deal considering it was a amp extreme card
earnest olive
would say more than decent
not knock-your-socks-off amazing but definitely a good deal
knock-your-socks-off amazing is the kind of black magic demonmit pulls to get 1080tis at that price
glacial umbra
if only
earnest olive
i bought a 1080ti new for $415 in january
glacial umbra
this is probably gonna be my build for awhile so I'll try to make it count
earnest olive
sold it in july for $500 used lol
glacial umbra
one way to earn some money
glacial umbra
$115 for the NeoECO
with tax and everything
big price increase lol but I'll keep my eyes out for a deal
earnest olive
that's a psu you can count on to last for years
glacial umbra
does psu warranty include other parts, if it takes them with it?
earnest olive
that psu has protections to not take other parts with it
earnest olive
i'm not gonna lie i don't know, i let people who are smarter than me classify this
earnest olive
just know that some power supplies will have stuff like kill switches if bad power is detected
and some will happily eat your entire system alive
glacial umbra
tasty snack to eat
I can't stop looking at the EVGA one man :(
I'll never get over the price difference lol
but it's better to be safe
earnest olive
the EVGA psu does have OVP UVP yeah, all but the absolute worst do
glacial umbra
alright
man I'm too excited over getting my pc built
do you know if delta RGB ram is any good?
I've been looking for info on that but I haven't found any decent info
earnest olive
as far as rgb ram goes it's reasonably priced
non rgb ram will always be better performance for price
little osprey
man I'm too excited over getting my pc built
Feel you. Had to get a lot of advice before buying my parts haha
glacial umbra
yeah that's me rn
yeah I'll probably still with non rgb ram
just excited to play on 144hz ngl
earnest olive
fwiw i don't have a budget and i'm still using solid black non rgb ram
i have enough floodlighting in my system to not need rgb ram
all of my lighting is solid white
glacial umbra
nice I'll probably figure out a colour scheme soon
earnest olive
my pc has a literal rave mode button but i feel sick after looking at it for 2 seconds
solid white light for me thanks
glacial umbra
haha I have no idea what I'll try and get mine to look like
as long as rgb is a smooth transition, I don't mind it
glacial umbra
yeah I agree
weak field
eh
earnest olive
i can't imagine sitting next to this for hours
glacial umbra
smooth changes into different colours looks nice imo
earnest olive
don't mind the backplate-less 1060
still trying to get my hands on a 6800xt
smh
earnest olive
tried to buy 3080 since launch
glacial umbra
probably in the next years at least
earnest olive
nvidia doesn't want my money
glacial umbra
I don't see why AMD wasn't able to prepare for the stock issues
when NVDIA was having them, you'd think they'd prepare a bit more
earnest olive
well...
AMD is on tsmc 7nm which has limited capacity that different companies gotta fight over
plus covid is causing issues with supply chain and global logistics in general
glacial umbra
that's fair enough, I always forget about covid for some reason
earnest olive
intel not having nearly as many stock issues as ryzen right now because intel has their own fabs
glacial umbra
like Ontario's cases aren't shooting through the roof
earnest olive
amd has to ask tsmc for wafers
glacial umbra
wakey wakey tsmc
time for school
I'm excited to game but watching shows on my PC will be something new
I'm excited to do that
earnest olive
happen to be doing that right now
earnest olive
nice for my math textbook too
glacial umbra
you have to game on a 92k monitor for it to be any good
earnest olive
hmm
earnest olive
it's funny how i'm being constrained by morals rather than budget
i refuse to buy from scalpers regardless of if i can afford it or not
the 3300x is a unique problem
glacial umbra
my dad said he should buy one to sell for more
I told him not to
saved someone from scalper hell
seriously
earnest olive
the 3300x requires a single perfect 4 core CCX
while the 3600 uses 2 flawed 3 core CCX
earnest olive
the 3300X is also an extremely low margin product
while they could put perfect 4 core CCX into a higher margin 3700X or 3950X
3700X especially is a high demand product
glacial umbra
I guess it kinda works because now I'm buying a 3600 instead of a 3300x
earnest olive
a 3 core CCX of a 3600 can only go into a 3600 or a 3900X, and the 3900X is not so high demand
so they have little motivation to sell the 3300X in first world countries
glacial umbra
pain
earnest olive
if you go to third world countries you will see more stock of the 3300X
little osprey
3600x is cheaper rn but 3600 will be cheap once it goes in stock for sure
earnest olive
you live in ontario, it's easier for you to make the jump to 3600 than someone earning $2000 a year
glacial umbra
I'm saving up the allowance my parents give me lol
earnest olive
i think it's a good thing that AMD is making those cheaper parts available in poorer countries
glacial umbra
I've applied for jobs but I'm too young to work really
earnest olive
having an allowance is a privilege
glacial umbra
I'm legally allowed to but
earnest olive
i never had an allowance growing up
earnest olive
my parents bought me school laptops
had to work for my first game console at age 13
earnest olive
i still cherish that nintendo 3ds to this day
little osprey
I have an all in one rn
glacial umbra
they're ruthless
earnest olive
9 years later
little osprey
I was able to play fortnite on 40 fps low settings low 3d resolution
glacial umbra
my parent's made it so when we don't do something were asked, we owe them instead though
earnest olive
i'd rather have the 3300X in a country where kids' parents have to sacrifice their own meals to make sure their kids can eat than a country where kids save up allowance to buy a pc
little osprey
That was when the game came out. Now idk cause i dont play fortnite
glacial umbra
so if we don't do the stuff they ask, we then get nothing, even if we just miss one thing
cursive wharf
i'd rather have the 3300X in a country where kids' parents have to sacrifice the...
if that is how dire their situation is, I dont think they'd be able to afford a 3300x, or even a 1200AE when it was $60
earnest olive
well no not saying that they would be the ones buying it
quartz loom
Is it safe to buy windows from G2A?
marsh gorge
yea
i would say so
everything i've bought from there has been legit
and some went up to the price of £75
and it was legit
fallen escarp
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXY4p2
i need help choosing a mobo
wifi please
glacial umbra
@quartz loom make sure you're not buying windows 10 with windows 10 pro downloaded, seen people make that mistake.
also G2A offers refunds for non working codes
topaz coyote
is custom loop watercooling worth it?
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vXY4p2
i need help choosing a mobo
wifi please
Why not just go AMD and get a 5600x? Intel is not the ideal option rn
little osprey
5600x stock problems
3600 would be fine
Worth the wait tho
Rather than setting yourself up with already outdated parts
fallen escarp
Why not just go AMD and get a 5600x? Intel is not the ideal option rn
someone built a new rig for me
including the 5600x '_'
little osprey
For a 1660 super, what CPU should I get? i7 9700K or Ryzen 2700X? (Using pc for streaming, gaming and editing)
both are good cpus but i would get the ryzen one for your purposes
versed rock
I wouldn't touch either of those CPUs. Get a 3600 or 3700X
And, I would look at not getting a 1660 Super. I'd get a 2060 Super
formal cosmos
Guys
Does my pc have a pwm fan header https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hFsv4d
Because I’m getting 6 of these fans ARCTIC P12 PWM PST - 120 mm Case Fan with PWM Sharing Technology (PST), Pressure-optimised, Quiet Motor, Computer, Fan Speed: 200-1800 RPM - White/White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081VPP24C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_DFNUFbP22426H?psc=1
versed rock
Why are you getting SIX fans?!?
You need like, 4 fans.
And, at that point. Just buy a White P400A Digital and you will need to buy 0 fans.
@formal cosmos gonna reply to me about my suggestion?
formal cosmos
Ima just get 4 fans then
formal cosmos
Nah
versed rock
Because the P400A is also just a better case than the 4000D Airflow
formal cosmos
I want that case
versed rock
Why.
formal cosmos
I don’t like the p400a
versed rock
The P400A Digital White is A. Thermally superior and B. Cheaper
formal cosmos
It has too much black
versed rock
The black is to help make any RGB elements to be less reflective.
formal cosmos
All white is going to be reflective as fork and blinding
Good
versed rock
Also, the 4000D will not be cheaper after you buy fans.
formal cosmos
Well no $hit
versed rock
Therefore objectively the best decision is P400A Digital White
stoic island
Tbh
versed rock
You could even just spray paint the inside White if you must have an ALL white case.
stoic island
I'd grab 4000d for aesthetics
versed rock
Why though? Contrast is like, a heavy thing in modern aesthetics
formal cosmos
My pc isn’t gonna have any rgb
formal cosmos
Why not?
versed rock
Just buy some cheap case and spray paint it white.
If you aren't doing RGB then why do you need to see inside?
formal cosmos
Because I wanna see my 3070
stoic island
@versed rock aesthetics are personal preference
And I'd get a 4000d tbh
Or a td500 mesh white
versed rock
I wouldn't. It's just flat worse than the P400A Digital White.
Takes more space, has worse thermals (if both are on equal fan footing)
versed rock
Why do you want to see your 3070 if there's no RGB lighting it?
stoic island
@versed rock better in my books for actually being able to support good air coolers
stoic island
Prob not
versed rock
Remove all those top fans, you should see a 3 to 5 degree reduction in temps
stoic island
I doubt it..?
versed rock
I don't.
stoic island
If they're trying to do a negative pressure setup, that should actually improve temps
Tho stock cooler is eh
versed rock
But Airflow cases like that thrive on Positive Pressure
stoic island
Eh, I prefer negative pressure slightly, let some air go everywhere
versed rock
The only cases that thrive on Negative Pressure are ones that have a closed off front panel.
stoic island
Like some fresh air for GPU from vents
Yea airflow cases aren't designed for negative pressure, but doesn't mean it'll be bad.
versed rock
You don't need to feed the GPU from vents if you have a gigantic wall of air coming in the front.
stoic island
Tho stock cooler is not gonna have fun with that setup
If it was an aio or like a u12a
I think stock cooler fins are positioned like vertically
versed rock
I believe they are.
formal cosmos
He has 3 intake fans and 4 outtake fans
versed rock
Yeah, and thats a nightmare for that case + cooler
Remove the 3 top exhaust fans and he should see a thermal improvement on CPU temps
formal cosmos
How does removing fans improve?
versed rock
More fans =/= more better
stoic island
Basically the air is gonna hit the side of the CPU cooler and get sucked right out
formal cosmos
Oh
versed rock
Yeah, you aren't letting any air actually reach the CPU cooler
stoic island
If the fins are like on a u12a and any tower cooler, air could actually go through the fins and get pulled out for good perf
Oh well, stock cooler is stock
versed rock
The Enermax T50 Axe
Thats what I was thinking of.
It even comes in a White variant
vital oracle
is there anything i can change in this build to lower the price to roughly $600-$700 without altering the performance too bad? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
its going to be used for light gaming, the most intensive games would be war thunder and fortnite
versed rock
Wrong li k
stoic island
Wrong link
versed rock
*link
formal cosmos
That’s mine lmao
versed rock
No, it's the wrong link
jagged spire
Haha
formal cosmos
I’m confused
jagged spire
Wrong link
versed rock
He grabbed the website URL at the top, not the direct link to the. Build list
stoic island
Look at the link
jagged spire
Sup @formal cosmos
vital oracle
oh
real wing
Heyyy
jagged spire
Hey
little osprey
And, I would look at not getting a 1660 Super. I'd get a 2060 Super
there is a thing called budget....
versed rock
And? Budgets can be pushed and modified. Just keep saving more money.
little osprey
bruh
jagged spire
@versed rock There’s a rtx 2060 at Best Buy for $320
little osprey
money doesnt come out of the sky
jagged spire
little osprey
I cant find a cheap 2060
versed rock
The price jump from a 1660S to 2060S isn't that much
jagged spire
No 2060 supers cost $400
versed rock
2060S not 2060
vital oracle
is there anything i can change in this build to lower the price to roughly $600-$700 without altering the performance too bad? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
its going to be used for light gaming, the most intensive games would be war thunder and fortnite
versed rock
The 2060 normal isn't worth it.
little osprey
hm
jagged spire
Wrong link
little osprey
where can I find a cheap 2060S
vital oracle
no thats the right link
versed rock
Look harder for the correct link. It isn't difficult
vital oracle
thats the build
little osprey
anyone give me a link?
versed rock
No it isn't.
vital oracle
how
formal cosmos
@stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/the 750w psu is worth the extra $10 right?
versed rock
You need to give us the Direct Link
jagged spire
@versed rock The difference between the 2060 and 2060s is not a whole lot
versed rock
The link you posted just links to a Blank List because it links to whatever you have cached as your last lisy.
You need the Direct Link
vital oracle
formal cosmos
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4xGnTW/the 750w psu is worth the extra $10 right? @versed rock
vital oracle
i didnt even see that i was pasting the other one lol
versed rock
Yeah, paying another 10 dollars for a 750w Amp is worth it
versed rock
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hLXgnL
Step 1: Intel Bad
formal cosmos
For the price a 3600 is at now.Yes
versed rock
I can't modify it right now because I'm on Mobile.
jagged spire
Price
versed rock
That cooler is meh at best, bad at worst.
jagged spire
?
little osprey
300€
misty obsidian
is this good for like 280 bucks
versed rock
I'm not a fan of Asus boards, but that's a good deal.
Oh. B450?
That's a good deal, but I'd try for a B550 bundle
brazen slate
Damn
versed rock
Oof that board isn't great.
still roostBOT
dtxdrip#0001 has been warned
versed rock
It isn't like, dirt bad
misty obsidian
F word (explicit version)
brazen slate
No-no swearsies o:
versed rock
But, it's mATX which might be funky for an ATX build.
foggy hazel
the size is a visual thing only
versed rock
Also, why can't we Swear? This is the internet, I'm allowed to say what I want.
little osprey
brazen slate
cause lol
little osprey
is this a good»
brazen slate
Eh, unless you're going to upgrade to Zen 3, no point having B550
misty obsidian
is this good?
brazen slate
They don't say the f word I think lol
misty obsidian
is this good
still roostBOT
Senko-kun#9951 has been warned
misty obsidian
@versed rock
brazen slate
Ok really?
versed rock
Assrock board bad
brazen slate
That's in every PG-13 movie ever
misty obsidian
U JUST CUSSED
misty obsidian
mee3 where u at
little osprey
heyoooo
brazen slate
Dumb ol bot
little osprey
so i got a biiig question guys
brazen slate
Say
foggy hazel
there are plenty of limits on pg13 movies @versed rock, nothing new about that. Another reason is that users have a hard time knowing when enough is enough.
misty obsidian
is this good? @versed rock
little osprey
Can someone link me a cheap 2060 or 2060S EU or UK website?
versed rock
I don't really like Asus either.
little osprey
I am a gamer, streamer, video editor, and got a lot of work for my job, trading platforms, i need the biggest lightning fast piece of sht possible for 1500 (strictly amd) for cpu
versed rock
MSI and Gigabyte are the good B550 makers
misty obsidian
brazen slate
Use B550 board ig @little osprey
versed rock
I am on Mobile.
brazen slate
Not really too much more
stoic island
All of them are good b550 makers :p
versed rock
Assrock bad
stoic island
No
versed rock
Yes
stoic island
Asrock b550m pro4 gud
little osprey
can ya link me with the board yall talkn abt
and why not b450 the ppl say wifi is on it
stoic island
Just go on Newegg and search it
little osprey
oh forgot to include i NEED wifi and bluetooth
brazen slate
kekw
stoic island
Find it on Newegg
misty obsidian
last time before i lose it. is this good @versed rock
little osprey
versed rock
When a basic feature like XMP just flat doesn't work on 5 different Assrock boards. I won't buy another one.
little osprey
is this good or not?
k ill search
can someone tell me?
@little osprey my friend just had to trash that one, it is trash
stoic island
@versed rock welp, doesn't stop me from reccomending their B550 boards when their older boards were crap
misty obsidian
what’s better abt b550 even
versed rock
Good board, but if you aren't building mATX then I'd look at a ATX board.
misty obsidian
what’s wrong with be 450
misty obsidian
i can’t afford a full size 550 man 
brazen slate
B450 is still good
misty obsidian
versed rock
Support for PCIe 4 and better Ryzen 3000 and 5000 support
brazen slate
Just not full of new features lole
versed rock
You can likey.
little osprey
@stoic island whats pcie4 rlly used for tho
versed rock
Likely
little osprey
i cba
stoic island
@little osprey future proofing
misty obsidian
i can’t afford a full size 550 man <:pepepee:661617546864230441>
u heard the man
he will be cash money with his 450 board
brazen slate
B559 😳
stoic island
You want to be locked out of using a useful GPU or SSD in the future by saving like 10$, do your thing
@little osprey b550m pro vdh wifi, 110usd
stoic island
Um
little osprey
oh nvm 109
stoic island
I just named a 110$ board..?
stoic island
Yes
little osprey
now im back at 1529 :D
stoic island
What's the list now?
little osprey
any good monitor yet?
stoic island
1080p or 1440p
brazen slate
What monitor specs?
little osprey
i dont think my ass can handle anythn above 1440p
to notice the difference
i literally notice 0 difference
stoic island
Uh 27$ for a keyboard
brazen slate
"new nvidia GPU" for 500$ being 3070 on a 1080p 144hz
little osprey
can someone make me a 1k pc part list please
brazen slate
nah, you can notice a difference tbh
little osprey
i dont like a big popping keyboard
versed rock
K552s are ok
little osprey
somethn abt me i like somethn like a laptop