#building-and-recc-chat
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i don't think buying a 1080p60 monitor for $100 is a good idea
I'm just trying to get a build up and running for now, and upgrade when I get some more money
I already have a 1080p 144hz
look at local used market, i've seen 1080p60 24" monitors including hdmi cable for as low as $30
got one for my mom cause her laptop screen too small
If u have a 1080p 144hz wouldnt spend 100$ for a second
this is really expensive for 3600C18 ram
if you really need rgb go for crucial ballistix rgb
1200$ for that.......
ye rgb for more fps
maybe fix
you can get 3600C16 rgb ram for cheaper
^
wouldn't recommend this mobo especially if you are going for a cpu upgrade
looks like enough rgb to me
Should i go for a b550?
you can get a b550 phantom gaming 4 for a similar price
would remove 1 case fan and just run 3 intake 1 exhaust
positive pressure is nice
just look for a used second monitor on local marketplace
u don't need something fancy for second monitor
my second monitor is 14 years old but it's 1080p60
there is nothing wrong with buying a cm 212
stock cooler is louder and hotter
i mean
I mean when I upgrade my cpu I'll want a better cooler either way
you don't have to spend anything
that moment your motherboard refuses to bios flashback, meaning you cant setup your pc :/ fml. A month of waiting for AMD's tech to take a massive turd.
might aswell get one now to take advantage
that's a poor argument
"why use rtx 3070 when gt 710 can power your monitor that's $460 you don't have to spend"
paying more for a better product is fine
i used a cm 212 on a 3600x for a while, it's pretty good, will work well with a 5600x or 5800x as well
so don't worry about it @covert glade
it's a good purchase
ty
if you're not going to be serious then please get out of a serious help chat
nobody thinks it's funny
you are just wasting peoples' time
seriously have no patience for people like this
anyone know any methods to bios flashback a motherboard to work with zen3?
is stock 3600 cooler fine? or should I try and find a budget option?
msi b550 gaming edge wifi
but upgrading is also fine
it depends
@chrome flare okay take a look at your rear I/O
also the flash bios button on mine doesnt work
do you have the usb plugged into the highlighted usb port?
yes
is the bios file on the root directory of the usb drive?
root
is the USB drive formatted as FAT32 or something else
is your power supply switched on and everything is properly plugged in on the mobo?
yes
everything is already installed except cpu?
everything is installed
what happens when you press the button?
nothing
did you change the BIOS file name to MSI.ROM
answer the question
highly doubt thatll do anything
it's in the instructions
so...
i've done this process on a bricked msi board before
if you're not even going to try don't bother asking
Had a friend who bought a used b450 and wasn't recognizing gpu
instructions arent working to bios flash it lol
Hm.
oof
if you aren't willing to rename a file then i'm just wasting my time here
ive said yes to all your questions, clearly i know how to do it

but im guessing something is interfering or the mobo is just junk
?

i was asking for other methods
i've literally fixed bricked msi board before using this button but it's alright you can keep acting like you know everything when i'm trying to help you
lol
i got better things to do
anyone else feel free to ping me if you have a question
i think im just going to return my 5600x and try to sell my mobo, then get a zen2 cpu and a different board brand. Probably go x570 this time
zen3 isnt worth going through all this trouble shooting when none of it is working xD
just put it in rice 
If the fix exists, fix it @chrome flare
If there is none, return and buy another board
"renaming a file is too hard i'm just going to sell all my stuff instead" i really do not get people lol
Otherwise you're just wasting money at this point
the suggested fix is a fix ive tried which doesnt work
Just listen to sips
so how hard is it to say "yes" lmao
so what happened here
i never said i couldnt rename the file
He literally has told you how to do it
Maybe you're doing it wrong
i did that whole process to a T
there are the online suggested fixes, and then there are people with experience
i wasn't even done with suggestions but you've shown that you don't want help so it's whatever man
I watched a few yt vids, read my manual for my mobo and cpu and stuff from MSI as well
you do you
you guys are talking about bios flash?
Eh, idk lol
yes but mine doesnt work
Just know that dude won't accept help
don't ask for help if you think you know everything please
waste of time
@earnest olive your logic is faulty
He thinks he's knows everything
umm this isn't a cpu problem, if there is a hardware problem with anything it would likely be only one part
patience helps when you are stressed
idk, i'm dumb enough to get an x570 just to use zen 2 cpu in it
^
Ghosty he's using a 5600x on a 500 series
I have literally said this method doesnt work, and asked for any others
If you didn't know
seems a little less faulty when everyone is agreeing but alright man
oh possibly bios update than, idk the details on the 5000 series
i was about to move onto something else but now i just don't want to help you anymore

yea, honestly not many ppl got the 5000 yet
you werent helping anyway so go on
have fun selling your board
it's more that you aren't accepting his help rather than him not helping
i never refused help :/
@chrome flare bruh you got lucky enough to get a 5600x and you're just going to sell it because you don't want to troubleshoot?
"ah this idiot keeps asking me about things i've already done how dare he not read my mind and know exactly what i've done"
^
This here is legit the only thing you're being dumb on as well as not accepting help
i sat here for like 4 hours trying various things to fix this issue
like how do you expect me to not cover the bases before moving on to alternatives
okay and do you think i'm watching you or what
Just ask for their help if you can't even find one fix
my bad, I'll go to actual professionals, sorry
ah yes not me that runs a pc selling business
definitely could not be a professional
๐
why come here at all than lol
exactly what i'm wondering
thought i could be helped but now you're all arguing like toddlers
"your free help isn't helpful enough"
help cannot be supplied so i'll seek help elsewhere
okay goodbye ๐
@chrome flare All you had to do was say yes to help
@brazen slate go back to school you cant read
I can read
next time when you speak to the "professionals" try to answer their questions clearly and exactly rather than saying i don't think this will work
ah yes, personal attacks, the #1 sign of a mature professional
I also can request help 
it's kind of hilarious how all you had to say was "yes"
i'd probably have your issue fixed by now
as uneducated as you obviously are, there's nothing you could have done

ah yes really showing everyone how mature you are by personally attacking everyone ๐
you are so cool man keep it up
marshi, you couldn't even answer a yes/no question, why are you trying to act all high and mighty?
also i find when i am struggling with something spending hours on troubleshooting it helps to rest a bit, sometimes the solution is easier than it seems. can be as simple as forgetting to flip a switch
anyways back to productive things feel free to ping me if any help is needed
@earnest olive halp i cant move my arm
have you tried not being a ghost

i do have one pc problemo, all my games stutter to no end with discord window open -_-
lol same
@sullen spoke try this: settings > appearance > turn off hardware acceleration
could help if the stutters are from gpu
lol forgot to close out game https://i.imgur.com/Nlug7Z4.png
sips your help isnt helping us
ye thats already turned off
i even have reduced motion on
pog
interesting, that's about all the effect discord really has on hardware
currently it's using 0.3% cpu, 400 mb ram, and 0% gpu for me
its really annoying, league mostly has no problem but a simple game like osu that i can run 1800fps with 10% cpu 5% gpu gets fatal stuttering with discord open
i could try messing with oc settings
or just default everything and see if it persists lol
i took my stable undervolt and then added an extra 13mV back to it just to be super safe
my gpu is stock iirc but my ram and oc are oc. they have been tested the cpu gets a bit hot but the most ive found i can do for that is deliding which im not sure i want to do given this is a 8th gen intel
of course i love ghosty โค๏ธ
but tbh i haven't successfully run p95 even with stock cpu settings without reaching at least 95-100c lol
yes techie v techie
have you run any mem tests?
yes, the last time i did i cant remember for how long but it seemed to be stable, i know that can cause wacky things
on my old board my 3800MHz CL16 overclock would run stable for a bit but error out and crashed after 9 hours of stability testing
on new board passed 16 hours
i actually might play around with oc settings tmrw if i dont have any cleaning to do
can also see if slightly increasing VCCIO/VCCSA does anything to help
what do you have those as?
b die?
hmm vccio i might have a bit lower than whatever the auto was, and no it's not b die from what i could find
might help with stability but the problem could also be completely unrelated to ram oc, either way it doesn't hurt to try
through aida it's readying 1.224 rn
i'm running 1.1 vsoc for my 3800c16
sips i know this isnt really pc related but do you have any good mid-range/budget chair recommendations?
might be able to tune it a little down but i haven't bothered yet
hmm
idk i'm just using a chair i found on sale at costco
fair enough lol
you can just go to your local office depot and pick up a good office chair
this one's a gaming chair but it's got a bunch of office chair certifications
office chairs are comfy, no need to spend extra on gaming haha, idk any specific ones tho
those office chairs are designed to support your back well for sitting for hours
take care of your body
How many fans should I buy
depends on your budget and your hardware
i don't have a budget so i have as many fans as my case fits
im sitting with 1 intake 1outtake rn xD
you can get quite a few with that
Cougar mx330
Is maxing out good though
depends
Yeah rn 1 exhaust
i don't remember if it has an intake it's been a while since i used one
Yeah no intake
what components are you using?
Rx 570 but that will be changed soon and r5 3600
well your case supports 5 fans in total
but i would say don't bother with top fans unless you're liquid cooling (which then your top fans will be supplied already)
so you'd be fine just adding 2 intakes to the front
Ok so 2 intake 1 exhaust
yeah
the mx330 is pretty well designed for traditional airflow pattern
do you want rgb fans or just best performance possible?
4-pin or 3-pin?
Ummmmm does it make a difference or is it based on mobo
I have a b450 gigabyte pro wifi
aorus pro wifi?
Yes
alright you've got 2 4-pin rgb headers and 2 3-pin argb headers
from personal experience 3-pin fans are much better color-wise
i was looking for a 4-pin fan recently for my rear exhaust
bought 2 different ones that could not accurately do white
then realized i had a 1-to-4 3-pin splitter so i just put a 3-pin fan there and works like a charm
Ok so is there any specific fans that you reccomend
the one i'm using is out of stock now so i'll take a look
Ok thanks
nice and quiet 24.6 dB rating
Ok thanks, needed that help
Ok, actually while were talking about cooling i bought my gpu 2 months ago will reapply thermal paste do anything
2 months ago? probably not
nah thermal paste lasts a while longer
is your gpu overheating?
Around 80c under load
the paste they use in the factory is designed to not be the best in terms of thermal conductivity, but last for many years without too much degradation, since the vast majority of consumers don't want to open their graphics card
you could replace it with something like mx-4 if you wanted
80 junction or not?
Junction?
are you already undervolting the card? if not, you may have more success with undervolting it
sips is there a reason that people recommend the 3600 over the 2700x?
It says 80c in msi afterburner never goes over
3600 is more recent
And no im not undervolting
and works in a b550 and x570
ah ok that makes sense
yeah
yeah undervolting can help you drop that temp by 10C or more without losing performance
Is undervolting safe
depends on how lucky you get
you cant use a 2700x in a b550
Ok
yeah i've undervolted many builds
the best result i got was from a 2070 super ventus with a really inadequate cooler
Nice, i might still re do paste
stock : 1860mhz, 1.05V, 87C
undervolted: 1905mhz, 0.9V, 76C
higher performance at lower temperature
they usually put a sticker on one of the mounting screws so they can know if you opened it up
yeah
but iirc that's not actually legal for them to deny you warranty based on that
worst case... buy a replacement circular sticker
lol
Im not keeping my gpu for longer than 6 months so it doesnt bother me too much
painter's tape it back together xD
that sounds extremely illegal but i like what your thinking
i used to disassemble my video card like once a month to deep clean the heatsink and the back of the fans
because my long haired cat really liked to hang out in my room
but we don't let him upstairs anymore after he had a ...bathroom incident
oof
so i no longer have to clean my pc nearly as often
you dont have filtered intake?
Can i undervolt in afterburner
but dust filters aren't 100%
you can, but for a radeon card i find that radeon software is better
when i had an rx 570 i undervolted it in radeon software
Ok, any tips on undervolting, if not i can figure it out
when i was overclocking my rx 570 for competition
it says driver and software versions dont match
i pushed it within an inch of its life
wait wdym competition
and try opening after updating to latest version
was running 3dmark and the entire screen turned green and started artifacting
then the pc crashed
after that my radeon software didn't want to work anymore
i ended up fixing it by using DDU
so maybe DDU will work for you too
how do i do that?
Any tips on undervolting
@covert glade no, i asserted dominance by selling it for twice as much as i paid for it
Here you can Downloadย Display Driver Uninstaller, this Display Driver Uninstaller is a driver removal utility that can help you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, with...
pretty straightforward software
ok
gamer moment
bought that rx 570 open box for $80
flipped it in a customer rig for msrp
was from a local guy i know wouldn't mess up a card
otherwise wouldn't take that risk
I didnt really do enough research before my first build, i didnt even consider cooling or asthetics
there's the rx 570
sexy
Is a liquid aio worth the price
guy wanted a budget workstation that could do light gaming so 3700x + rx 570 was a pretty good pairing
not for a 3600
depends on the cpu
...i say as i run a $130 360mm aio on my 3600x that i bought because it was pretty
Yeah i just love the look
anyways if you want to buy it for looks and you have a lot of money to spare then go for it
Regular+ bois
THANKS SO MUCH SIPS
but if it would dig into budget you would allocate elsewhere, then no
it worked
nice
your system, if you think the looks are worth the extra price then go for it
glad I could help
Nope im just gonna save for a better gpu
pog its been a month since ive been able to open radeon software lol
yeah I've spent like $350 on purely decorative items for my pc
and I don't regret it
sips you need ROG RGB wifi router next
makes me happy every time I look to the right and that doesn't have a price
if you're gonna be using it everyday it might as well look nice lol
this custom engraved stand came in today
Yeah i wish i didnt buy red painted ram
a dude on etsy
sick
I made the design
do they sell them in red?
if you want one I can send you the design
i may pog one if they do
it's full rgb
yes pwease
Yeah that is nice
rgb header
also includes a molex powered wireless transmitter and a remote controller
sick
costs $38 with shipping
I'll dm you idk if I'm allowed to link like that lol
lol ok
I looked at a pc part picker list and just decided that it was good enough
When i built
i made some mistakes with part selection on my first build
but it wasn't terrible overall
pog
i may make one myself hmmm
that stand thing
gotta choose something real flammable first
so it has epic fire design
this was my first build
I mean my build isnt awful just not good
cpu was a good choice, ssd was fine, gpu was a good deal, psu is a great choice, monitor is alright, keyboard/mouse pretty good for the price
mobo was fine since B550 wasn't out yet
HDD was from my laptop so not much choice there
main problem was the RAM and case
i didn't know what cas latency was at the time so i happily bought the 3600C18 instead of a 3600C16 kit
sips how does that gpu stand attach to the gpu?
and the case had pretty poor airflow
When was that
does it have a ledge behind it to sit on?
january 2020
was my first desktop only used laptops before that
What you know this much but put together your first build onr month before me
my cable management was not good
a lot of mistakes in hindsight
definitely not the worst i've ever seen but not good at all
sips i think i win cable management
3/10
Here is mine
i've been refraining from posting a full build pic until i get my upgraded gpu, but rest assured i can do cables a lot better than that now
Very nice, how many personal builds have you done
@summer pasture might be able to make this look better by wrapping it around the fan
personal builds? 2-3 depending on if you count a partial rebuild as a build
customer builds i've done 21 so far
Good idea i could find what to do with that, also wow 21 build in that span of time is impressive
hmm
i think i would rate your cables 8/10
this isn't great but i also recognize that the routing hole next to the motherboard is probably too close
No you need 64 core threadripper, also thanks i did them yesterday
this could definitely be hidden
Yeah a bit too close
yeah i didnt want to put too much stress on usb3 and 24 pin ports
How would i do that?
yeah those are a "what can you do" situation
yup
but the cpu fan cable you could definitely hide
i was thinking more hide it around the vrm heatsink area
prob not long enough for that
hmmm yeah maybe
couldnt you just hide it underneath the cpu cooler?
It pops back up
lemme see if i can find old pic of pc lol
f
Yeah
i used to have the worst cable management
I will make myself a nicer build in like 1 or 2 years
here's a similar build i did where i wrapped the cpu fan cable around the vrm heatsink, you can see it if you look for it but otherwise it's pretty unnoticeable
something like that
this was a ~30 minute build
sips you wanna see something that might hurt your brain?
this is legit a pic of what my pc used to look like
dude
i did unplug a couple fan cables but thats it
nothing can hurt me more than my best friend's pc
you can't see his cables... but for the wrong reason
he used to have cables worse than that
looked like kraken attacking his graphic card
but now you can't see them
because
He cut them?
his brother dropped the glass panel and it did the thing tempered glass does where it shatters internally without coming apart
but then decided to just put the panel back on
Nooooo
Oh my
i'd rather see bad cables than broken glass
Idk maybe make the broken glass look cool
Yeah youd have to be lucky to make it break and look good
Hit it with hammer
Pog
Yeah not cool
i told him he'd be better off just running it without the side panel, who knows one day it'll come apart and drop broken glass all over his pc
is there anything i can do to this build to lower the price to roughly $800 without decreasing the performance too much? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQmXRT
That's gotta suck breaking it before even peeling it
Lol
first order of business is to replace that 1660Ti with a 1660 super
Less powerful psu
3600 is basically the 3600x
I dont think you need 600w
but like 40$ cheaper
@vital oracle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fh3h7X this if you can be bothered to wait for the 3600 to come to normal price
sips how are you so good at this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcHdbh otherwise this
your like a wizard
both ~$850 with less than 3% performance drop
i do this too much @covert glade
would not bother honestly
its gonna be a fun project with my dad
nope
h110 mobo means you're limited to kaby lake at best
whole new build
nasty
lol
turbo mode go brrrrr
it is not worth upgrading that at all
dont upgrade
i said its near impossible
not worth
ik ik
you can get a ryzen 3 3100 + budget b450 board for less price than a used i7-7700K
sips what games do you play?
it's not compatible with 8th or 9th gen unless you mod it
Is boost something you can just turn on?
wdym by mod it
pin modding
i think this would be interesting
i think it just boosts on its own turkey
not worth it anyways, it's a prebuilt H110 and won't be powerful enough to run higher power chips
Aah
probably has terrible VRMs
but i could be completely wrong i honestly have 0 idea lol
@earnest olive what cpu cooler would be good for that build
which one?
using stock coolers
the stock cooler on the i5-10400F won't be great but it'll work
you can always upgrade it later
it'll keep the cpu reasonably cool while gaming anyways
@earnest olive what is your opinion on ryzen stock coolers?
depends
im told that you can play minecraft at 32 chunks smoothly with just a 5000 series chip lmfao
3800X and 3900X? no
damn so powerful
no discrete graphics card
I have a 3800x 
stock cooler on 3800X is still usable if you don't mind noise
yeah itโs really loud
yeah ikr but i just know that a 5000 series is that insane
@little osprey i would not consider ever listening to that person about computers again, since the ryzen 5000 chips do not even have integrated graphics
looooooooooooool
your pc will not turn on with a ryzen 5000 cpu and no gpu
My rx 570 fans sound like a jet engine when above %45
fr theres no way
no gpu the entire system wont boot? bc of no integrated?
is it bc of the no integrated graphics
I also have a rx 570 lol
so the pc will explosion
pc go boom
implode
I basically have an airplane for a computer noise-wise
I have an asrock gpu๐
just tell it to shut up
i told my dad a list for a build and hes been in the tech stuff for over 30 years

yeah your mobo will detect that there's no graphics at all and just give up
LOOOOOL
whats the list?
consumer mobos are not designed to run in "headless mode" as it's called
9900k and whatnot
servers can run without any graphics though
ew intel
My parents have the worst dell pc i have ever experienced
i mean
product > brand
yeah
if you buy a $280 ryzen 5 3600 over a $180 i5-10400 right now you're out of your mind
especially when 5000 series is in stock consistently

ik
3600 isnt 280 tf
don't be so sure about that...
and better i believe in most games
Isnt normal 5 5600 going yo be around the same a 5 3600x
the cheapest 3600 is currently $280.35 ๐
ok
it's out of stock on all of the realistic sellers
yes exactly
so if you're building a budget 6 core system right now
you go i5-10400
so is it a good idea to get the 3700x now before black friday since the sale isn't good anyway
I would rather wait for normal prices
i mean yeah, but then you're stuck to intel unless you wanna buy a new mobo
and currently that just seems like a bad idea unless they come out with some new amazing cpus
moot point, 10th gen intel and ryzen 3000 both only have 1 generation left on their mobos
intel would probably take 2 generations until they are competitive again
ryzen 6000 will be using a different socket, different ram standard
both have the same level of upgradability
Im probably still going to be on 3600
fair enough
trust me, if you think I have any intel bias you are mistaken :)
i simply buy what makes sense given the circumstances
Well that is quite the stash
would getting a 3700x before blackfriday be a good idea? @earnest olive
You have 5 cpus that are better than mine just sitting around
if it's for production workload then 3700x is still slightly better
planning for production, I'm just afraid the stock won't be back until end of december
I want to buy a 2060 but its so expensive
if you're doing only production and no gaming
then the 3700x does beat the 5600x
so proceed
Iโm contemplating life seeing all those CPUโs
see if it qualifies for newegg's black friday price protection
True
but either way - pc parts are not really high margin items so black friday tend to not do a whole lot
black friday does a lot more to the prices of prebuilts/laptops
interesting and thanks, i do not think it qualifies the price production. it might end up being a better idea if i just wait for a week
here's an idea.. if you're not so desperate for one right now
it is possible haha
you can try buying a 3700x right now at the very fair price of $305
and not open it
loooooooooool
and then see what happens on black friday
if you see one cheaper then get it and return the one you bought for $305
unopened
if they are out of stock then you rejoice with the 3700x you have on hand
๐
sips do you mind if i add you?
the Intel Core i7-7740x is insane
i heard about it way back
about its performance
its very zippy zoom zap
what for? if you have tech questions you can simply ping
that's a good point, I might get it from amazon if I were going with that plan, since they have more humane return policies
idk, you just seem chill
@little osprey the i7-7740x is not going to fit in your mobo
is it too thicc
oh dammit
DAMMIT
i forgot about the socket typeepepepepepepepeppep uugghhghghghg
seriously there's just nothing worth upgrading from an i5-7400 in an H110 mobo
trusttttttttt
its possssssibllleeeee
according to my daddddd haha this is going to crash and bURNNNNn
your only options are i5-7500, i5-7600, i5-7600K, i7-7700, i7-7700K
yeah that's the highest end chip that will go in your board
yeah
L
look
im not an idiot, my dad just gave me no option
other than to upgrade it
yikes
What gpu dk you have in that build@little osprey
for what
i can talk to him if you want
i'm very experienced with talking to parents about computer parts
Just wondering
maybe add things into the computer?
comes with running my business
i get a lot of parents wanting to buy a pc for their 8 year old to play fortnite and i have to explain to this 40 year old why they want a gtx 1660 super
that must be a challenge trying to convince the parent to spend 200-300 bucks
clock speed only really matters when you are comparing the same architecture
ik but would you want a 0.1ghz cpu lmfao
It was hard for me to convince my parents to let me build a pc
the fact that my dad has been doing pc stuff for over 20 years is a con believe it or not
you might think that itd be easier
its the complete opposite in my case
@summer pasture same
so your dad's mindset on computer is from the 90s
prob
honestly i have no choice so like i either upgrade the prebuilt (which is suicide) or not have a pc
HA
i mean
look the 7400
has 4 cores
3.5ghz max bOOOOOOOOST
Just upgrade the prebuilt with 2 parts right?
can you explain why its worse? i dont understand cuz like some previous-gen cpus have higher clock speeds than newer gen
and theyre less expensive
like???
Architecture
the 10400 boosts to 4.3ghz
he said
the 10400 also has 6 hyperthreaded cores
he'd spend $200 or more
while the 7400 has 4 non hyperthreaded cores
hyper = fast asf
each core is like its own little machine with some components
yeah
like a floating point unit and an integer unit
not all of those components will be simultaneously used by a specific instruction
I cant believe you built your first pc this year
okay
in a non hyperthreaded core, whichever instruction is running on that core has complete control of the core
in a hyperthreaded core, if the core is executing an instruction that does not need the entire core, it may be able to simultaneously execute an instruction using other parts of the core
alright so i looked online and saw that the 7400 is often compared to the r5 3600
Im gonna go now goodbye and thanks for the help earlier
so hyperthreaded cpus will get a significant boost to productivity workloads compared to non hyperthreaded cpus
it depends on the workload but often around 25-30%
ohh so like more efficient?
alright hmm
feels bad man
so the i5-7400 is 4 cores and 4 threads
the i5-10400 is 6 cores and 12 threads
so the multitasking capability of the 10400 will be much stronger
yeah ik
the 7400 seems pretty bad
this is the thing
not to mention that it boosts higher
its not compatible 
lmaoooo my dad gonna buy a whole new board
which would be the only significant upgrade
I DONT EVEN KNOW IF ITS POSSIBLE TO OPEN THE CASE HAHAAH
hyperthreading helps w/ compute-light tasks (email,web surfing, etc.). I do a lot of machine learning stuff, and actually disable hyperthreading, and see a 20-30% increase in performance when doing lots of hard-core number crunching... faking more cores doesnt always mean faster performance.
Guys I got an issue
you can use the same RAM as well as the same drives
probably gonna use a crowbar or smthn
like you said the board plus cpu is cheaper than upgrading the i7-7700k
My hard drive isnโt showing up in bios but itโs powered on and it works
It doesnโt show up in windows either
@hollow hound yeah for the sake of not getting too long winded my explanation wasn't complete
i found that it can support up to 16gb. but is there a cap for frequency?
I changed the SATA connection because I thought it was the issue
in workloads that actually load up the entire core like what you're doing it's detrimental
though that is more of a fault of the hardware scheduler than the hyperthreaded core itself i think
Can someone help me out?
@little osprey you're not using Z chipsets so the maximum ram speed will be 2666mhz
@pulsar zodiac ok im still here and the same thing happened to my dads laptop, the drive was dead
what can i possibly upgrade lmfao
can i plug in a 1080ti
2080ti
or 3090
haha
Doesnt mean yours is though
@pulsar zodiac did you plug in both power and data? i am asking because you said "the sata connection" as if it's singular
Yes power and data
7400 + 3090 = extremo explosion
how long do mail in rebates on items last if they're not listed?
its gonna create a sinkhole in my neighborhood
what are my gpu options @earnest olive
Power is in, I can feel it physically spinning
okay what board do you have?
Bios and windows doesnโt see that anything is there
with a 7400 i would pair it with a gtx 1060 at most
Asus ROG B550-F wifi gaming motherboard
@pulsar zodiac do you have another sysytem that you can try to plug the drive into?
No
@little osprey Youโll be limited by your PSU. Do you know what wattage rating you have?
the small font might kil your eyes if so i apologize
alright i wanted to check if the mobo is one that disables certain sata ports when m.2 is populated
it does not
and my dad thinks you can upgrade it any more
How long have you had the drive
he says he'll contact vendors and theyll certifi it or smthn
@little osprey dell prebuilts tend to be proprietary so you are probably going to need to use a graphics card with no external power like a 1050ti
4 days max
some graphics cards need external power connection
I need help
Oof, you might want to send that back, was it ever working
No
like? a double A battery
lower powered cards like the 1050ti do not
How many leds can a argb header handle on the tuf gaming x570 plus?
It wasnโt dropped, it didnโt break or anything
Yeah it sounds dead, what hard drive is it
The store I bought it from has to return policy unless you have warranty
im going to plug in a power cable from a 1050ti to the solar panels on my house
ez
........
yk what
im gonna type up a doc of possible upgrade options
and im gonna look at my dad as he realizes
Could I try plugging it into another SATA power?
@little osprey The Motherboard can give the gpu power without a pcie connector
@pulsar zodiac Go Ahead
Holy cow fr
@knotty nacelle if you're asking about amperage, asus doesn't say
Alright
i didnt know that
Iโll message here once Iโve done it
if i even want anything to work id practically have to replace everything inside and just have a sleeper pc then, correct? LOL
@little osprey Yup i think 75w max
From the mobo to gpu
Yeah quite low
to type up a doc of compatible parts to upgrade the current system
it'd be greatly appreciated
I am not intelligent enough
no just like a bit of googling
like for the cpu i already know
its a h110 chipset
so kaby-lake processors and lga 1151 is the cpu socket
so under those specifications you can find out which cpus are compatibile
I think new motherboard would be the best thing
and for ram
yeah ik
but like
why the heck would i have a 7400 with a new mobo
i might aswel buy an entirely new pc lmao
And new cpu like sips was saying
Why?
now one thing i forgot to think about
wdym why
if it's a dell prebuilt
its my dad's spectacular idea
it may or may not have standardized mounts
Oh
so it's not 100% guaranteed that you can give it a new motherboard
its going to*** implode*** on itself
guys should i use the stock thermal paste on my cooler or wait to buy arctic mx4 paste?
stock is fine, mx-4 will perform better
exactly like cpu cooling and everything
i have mx 4
From what i have been experiencing wait
in my drawer right next to me