building-and-recc-chat

[cyan saffron]

should i wait on monday to order these since most of them are already on sale?

[ornate solstice]

Which is better ryzen 5 3600 or 3600x

[little osprey]

5 3600x

[cyan saffron]

they are the same just buy the 3600 and overclock it

[ornate solstice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qgTTMv

[still bay]

yeah the x is not a massive difference just oc it yourself

[ornate solstice]

Can you tell me if this is good

And help me change the graphics card

[gleaming quartz]

i never like overclocking my components just because i like being safe

i dont want my pc to start frying because i have my pc overclocked to play minecraft ultra hd 4k and raytraced

[left gull]

hey, im building my first pc, I was wondering if you guys could look over my list if i sent the pc part picker link

[ornate solstice]

Anyone know of a replacement gpu the 5600xt challenger pro is out of stock

[cyan saffron]

theres nothing dangerous in upgrading the frequency of the cpu they are exactly the same

[whole harbor]

@ornate solstice no case?

[ornate solstice]

I have one

[whole harbor]

Mk

[upper condor]

go ahead

[left gull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6JsFZZ

sweet thanks

[ornate solstice]

I have the phantek p300

Case

[upper condor]

I don't particularly like this with the 2070 and 3600xt

[versed rock]

Agree

[upper condor]

And the b450 tomahawk max isn't the best

[versed rock]

Yeah, B550 is better.

[upper condor]

The main reason it was was it had ryzen 3000 but now everything does

If you are getting b450, get like, an asus one with better features

[granite barn]

since the cheap 1650s sold out

can someone please me a 500 dollar list

please

[left gull]

ok, thanks for the advice!

[versed rock]

Dell Optiplex and a GPU

[granite barn]

.

[upper condor]

^

[upper condor]

If you want, whenever you update it @ me and I can look again or I can just revise it

[left gull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pYHTMv @upper condor this is an updated list i made

[upper condor]

I haven't been too into the PC building scene in the past few months; but the advice im gonna give is still relevant. Don't cheap out on a lot of part for 1 or 2 good ones, because in the end the performance will be lower. I would just get a better set of RAM,better PSU,maybe a better case and then downgrade the GPU slightly. Because you can always upgrade it later, make sure the stuff you are keeping for the longest is good.

[north hull]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zy2kfP This is my first pc build, im not sure is this is decent or not. Please lmk if I should change something. Thanks

[ornate solstice]

Which one should I buy?

[upper condor]

For that little price difference, @ornate solstice prob 3600x unless its enough to get a better thing in another part

[ornate solstice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pzydbh

I think I’ll just get the 3600x

[upper condor]

Looks fine to me.

[north hull]

Is it okay if yall checked out mine. I would appreciate it

[stoic island]

@north hull so, you don't own any of that right?

[north hull]

no, I don't

[stoic island]

B450 and Ryzen 2000 are fairly out of date to start off

1050ti IS EXTREMELY out of date

@north hull what's gonna be the purpose?

[north hull]

I would like to have my first pc and I wanted to build it on my own

[versed rock]

Ok...

[stoic island]

As in, gaming, video editing, etc?

[north hull]

gaming and I wanted to learn how to edit

[versed rock]

For an ultra cheap option I would rather buy a decent used Dell Optiplex and slap a 1650 Super and a new PSU in it.

[stoic island]

@versed rock 800$ isn't really optiplex territory imo

Optiplex more for like 400$ budget

[versed rock]

1000 dollars is where Optiplex territory ends IMO

[stoic island]

Eh, alright

I like everything new for 600$+ because you can actually get new stuff that'll be reusable in upgrades

[versed rock]

I recommend Optiplexes with a 6000 series CPU and at least 16gb of RAM

[stoic island]

Oh then that changes things

[versed rock]

4000 series is marginally ok

[stoic island]

The optiplexes I know are the <200$ like 4570 8gb

[versed rock]

There are some in the 250 range with 6600s and 6700s

[stoic island]

Higher than that might as well get a 3100 build (higher than like 600$)

[versed rock]

Ehhh, I don't like the 3100

The multi CCX destroys any semblance of good performance it has.

4 cores 8 threads over 2 CCX units is... A bit dumb

Whereas the 3300X is an AMAZING budget CPU.

4c8t with no CCX unit complications

[pearl blade]

you can't get the 3300x tho

[unborn timber]

hi good day would like to build a desktop computer for full home office usage no gaming for a work from home business. My problem is in my searches online I keep seeing gaming pc builds and nothing about recommended specs for just regular builds. I'm not sure what processor heck any parts would be considered ok to use without blowing a budget and not end up just building a gaming pc.

[north hull]

Thanks for the information. I appreciate it

[weak field]

usually a decent gaming pc can do that stuff

[granite barn]

why is everything going up in price

[weak field]

christmas

[granite barn]

sucks

[weak field]

quarantine

[north hull]

what about black friday?

[granite barn]

everything will be sold out

[unborn timber]

thats prob the gimmick raise the price to "drop" it for black friday then say amazing deals

[unborn timber]

wouldn't that be overspending?

[weak field]

could

depends on how you spend it

[drifting garnet]

One of AMD's APU's will be good for office work.

[weak field]

eh

wait no gaming

at all?

[unborn timber]

yeah strictly work pc

[drifting garnet]

Like a 3200 or 3400g would be good.

[unborn timber]

oh thank you. much appreciated. I think i could start my build from there would 8gb ram be enough or go for more?

[drifting garnet]

Do u do a lot of multi tasking?

[weak field]

^^

depends what ur doin

[unborn timber]

currently its just jumping between various document app like pdf excel word and email but in the future could be more

[drifting garnet]

8 would be enough, you could go more if you wanted.

If you think there will be more in the future I would go 16gb tho.

[weak field]

[whole harbor]

16gb for gaming

[unborn timber]

I guess i should stick with a b450 mb vs the older 350, 320 types

[whole harbor]

8gb for casual stuff

[turbid laurel]

is a gtx 1660 and a ryzen 5 2600 a good combo?

[drifting garnet]

Yeah, go B450, nothing older than that but you may wanna go B550

[whole harbor]

2700x is $210

[drifting garnet]

Yes, that would be good.

[whole harbor]

Is that normall?

[turbid laurel]

alright

[drifting garnet]

You may wanna get B550 if you plan on upgrading in the next few years.

[unborn timber]

ah ok then I understand.

[drifting garnet]

$210 is pretty good for 2700x I think.

[unborn timber]

thanks alot greatly appreciate the info and advice

[drifting garnet]

Ok, no problem.

[prisma rock]

Can some tell me how my all white build is

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLb4dD

[winter tide]

I bought it off my friend

Those are his screenshots

[glacial umbra]

@winter tide that's almost my exact build but with a 3600 and a 1070 ti

[winter tide]

Whats the price difference

[weak field]

about 7$

joking

the inflation of the 3600 the past couple days is

something else

[winter tide]

Is it a good setup for gaming?

[weak field]

and the 1070ti is crazy high rn for some reason

[glacial umbra]

really?

on new yeah that's because it's not made anymore

buy used

got a 1070 ti for 150 USD

[hoary cloak]

Where do u get windows 10 for cheap

or a activation key

[glacial umbra]

Multiple places to buy online

Amazon has one on for 15 big ones

[hoary cloak]

does it give the code immediately when u buy it?

[glacial umbra]

via email probably

if it doesn't work, amazon is incredibly good with that

atleast from my experience

[hoary cloak]

ok

[granite barn]

should i buy ps5 or build 500 dollar pc

[glacial umbra]

500 what currency?

[granite barn]

usd

[glacial umbra]

ehhh

honestly the PS5 isn't a bad choice

[granite barn]

really...

[glacial umbra]

it really depends if you want a console or PC

[granite barn]

well i want a pc

but can i build a pc good enough for 500?

[glacial umbra]

yeah you can get decent medium to high settings from a 500 machine

500 including monitor and peripherals?

[granite barn]

no

[glacial umbra]

alright

[granite barn]

i will now make a list

[glacial umbra]

if you're fine buying used, I'd recommend buying a used GPU

they can be a lot cheaper

[granite barn]

which gpu specifaclly?

[trim oriole]

a 1080

[glacial umbra]

oh jeez

1080 is a bit overkill for a 500 USD budget

[granite barn]

i have a used rx 570

i never used it

sell or keep

[glacial umbra]

keeep

so you have a 500 budget for everything else

that's perfect

[hoary cloak]

can u send the link

[glacial umbra]

I'll dm it to you sure

[hoary cloak]

ok

[glacial umbra]

@granite barn If you're gaming 1080p with high to ultra settings at 60FPS, the 570 will be perfect.

[granite barn]

ok

which cpu should i pair with

[glacial umbra]

you can afford a decently high end one considering your GPU budget is dealt with

would it just be for gaming or were you planning on streaming and/or video editing?

[granite barn]

just gaming

[ocean tusk]

I have an ASUS PRIME H270M-PLUS MB

ASUS has this notice on their site, that my RAM will be limited to 2400 MHz.:
"*. Due to Intel®️ chipset limitation, DDR4 2400MHz memory frequency is only supported by 7th Generation Intel®️ processors.Higher memory modules will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2400MHz."

with Kingston HyperX 2400 C15 2x8GB I am not sure about frequency and timing, it's about 3 years old in a store built machine. I havre 2 empty RAM slots.

I have chosen to go to 64GB as I often multi task while playing WoW. I want to keep this MB until boards with DDR5 are a thing, then build all new machine.

It seems that mixing 2 different PAIRS of RAM is tricky and requires same timing for best results, is this correct? (I want faster, not slower lol)

Since I can't locate the exact same RAM, and since apparently Intel limits due to my i7-7700, or requires ASUS, to limit the RAM speed to 2400, it seems like I should buy 64GB of the lowest cost brand name RAM and remove my existing RAM? Does this make sense?

This is what I'm looking at on Newegg.ca. I have limited my search to ships from Canada, to avoid COVID delays and border fees. https://www.newegg.ca/team-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331496

It seems like buying higher end RAM will gain me nothing, is my logic correct? I'm fine with the price but want to make a wise purchase.

[granite barn]

woah

[glacial umbra]

intel limiting ram frequency?

oh yeah I saw a video about that

xmp voiding warranty and stuff lol jeez

[ocean tusk]

I would not have known if ASUS didn't have a warning. Would be sad if I bought smokin RAM to only get 2400 MHz

[glacial umbra]

yeah, with lower speed ram you'll do fine intel wise you're mostly missing out on around 10 FPS but that 10 FPS would be an expensive motherboard and everything.

I don't know much about the limitations and how they work considering I haven't researched them much but if the website is saying that the ram speed is limited I'd believe it

if you want, you can always buy faster ram and use it in the future but i saw you said you're waiting for DDR5, so it might not be worth it to you

[ocean tusk]

So am I right that I may as well buy the cheapest decent name RAM?

Since everything now is 2400+

Ya I considered buying fancy RAM for future, but Newegg doesn't even show any MBs yet that are DDR5, so I assume it will be a long wait.

[glacial umbra]

I'm pretty sure, yeah

I wouldn't be surprised if it'll take awhile but I have no idea lol

[ocean tusk]

My PC is already pretty good even after 3 years. I plan to buy a 3070 or 3080 some day when they exist, but other than that I can't see value in upgrading for tiny gains. The 3070/3080 will move to new build. I run 3*4K 55" monitors and next year will be editing 4K video, plus I want to try Microsoft Flight Sim.

[glacial umbra]

jeez

triple 4K?

I could only dream lmao

[cursive flare]

https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-GD-0700-V1/dp/B07W956JBC/ref=sr_1_4?crid=2V7Q2SWNTSV1D&dchild=1&keywords=evga+gold+750&qid=1605922607&sprefix=evga+gold%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-4

is this a good psu?

[weak field]

looks like a 2070s box

[earnest olive]

@ocean tusk if you want to squeeze more life out of your system you might be interested in pin-modding the H270 to run 9th gen and 2666mhz ram

it's not for everyone but just letting you know it's possible

having more cores/threads would be good for your 4k video editing

@cursive flare looks like the GD 2019-V which is labelled as C tier, so not amazing

[whole harbor]

pov: sips bleach blocked me but opened my mag

[cursive flare]

which one would be good then?

[whole harbor]

msg

[cursive flare]

can u recommend a good gold series for around that price range pls

[weak field]

guys reply on mobile???

[weak field]

yes

woah

so many me’s

[whole harbor]

how

Do u reply

/reply @weak field hi

Burrhdhehs

How

[ocean tusk]

I didn't know that pin modding was a thing but sounds finicky unless there is an adapter that's plug n play. For the cost of new processors less what I could get for mine, doesn't seem worth it until I can build a substantially faster machine.

[weak field]

hold down

and click reply

[low star]

Anyone need help?

[weak field]

hold the message you wanna reply to

[whole harbor]

Susisisjsjs

POGGGG

[weak field]

[earnest olive]

@cursive flare https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gWbwrH/seasonic-focus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fm

[whole harbor]

[weak field]

[low star]

Anyone want me to review their pcpartpicker list?

[whole harbor]

[weak field]

[earnest olive]

@ocean tusk microcenter has had the i9-9900K brand new in box for 280-300 although i'm not sure if your H270 could handle that chip

definitely not plug and play but it doesn't seem overtly difficult either

[weak field]

handle

hm

[earnest olive]

VRMs might not be good enough for stock 9900K

[weak field]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-surprise-chocolate-door-handle-smile-bite-gif-17220166

he handle it

hes so happy too

[low star]

Anyone want a pcpartpicker review on their list

[weak field]

no but i got a different question?

[low star]

wwhat

[weak field]

can you breed wyverns on ark??

ive heard rumors

[low star]

???

[weak field]

but im pretty sure its just mods

[low star]

I don't know that game

I can't play it

Cause I game on a mac

I'm buying a gaming pc though next week

[weak field]

whats gon be in it

[low star]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f4QPJf

here

I'm gonna buy it during black friday for discounts

[weak field]

really man?

bright asc

you know the wireless version of that mouse is cheaper??

[balmy patio]

kermit

what words of wisdom do you have for this chat

[ember jetty]

Does anyone have expertise with the Asus X570 Tuf Gaming wifi

Cause I'm a noob and I have no idea were case fan RGB power goes

[pearl blade]

check the manual

[balmy patio]

check your manual

very handy

[ember jetty]

Menu?

Oh ok

[pearl blade]

wow i can't spell

[ember jetty]

Also, should I connect all the wires to the psu

[cursive flare]

https://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-220-G3-0650-Y1/dp/B005BE058W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2V7Q2SWNTSV1D&dchild=1&keywords=evga%2Bgold%2B750&qid=1605923781&sprefix=evga%2Bgold%2Caps%2C160&sr=8-1&th=1

is this good?

[ember jetty]

It's seems good, I saw the price tag but then saw it was Canada

[weak field]

words of wiseom

[quasi snow]

Tier A on the tier list

[weak field]

forget the d

words of wisdom
Nov. 20 2020. “shark shark”

[idle hawk]

@balmy patio i summon you

[ember jetty]

I don't know how I will cable manage everything

[balmy patio]

whats up

[balmy patio]

thx

[idle hawk]

lol

[ember jetty]

Contemplating if I should've gotten a prebuilt pc

[weak field]

[balmy patio]

just zip tie the cables together and tuck them behind the back panel, no one ever looks back there

[ember jetty]

Probably doing everything wrong

[glacial umbra]

waiting for the 3600 black Friday sale

please Lord bless me with the cheap 3600

[idle hawk]

@balmy patio i got another series x

and im putting it up for sale again

[balmy patio]

niiice one

[idle hawk]

yeo sir

[summer pasture]

Is 80c too hot for gpu

[jagged ember]

If that's under load, no

If that's at idle, yeah

[cyan stone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nfxv4d
Any thoughts on this build?

I'm still thinking about going for a 5900x

Not sure though

[granite barn]

since the ryzen 3100 is 10 dollars less than the ryzen 5 2600

which cpu should i get

[jagged ember]

What's with windows and that mobo

Jes, Id get the 3100

No contest

[granite barn]

ok

[jagged ember]

It's a super solid cpu for games

And general work

@cyan stone id switch to a b550 to save on costs as normally people don't need the features on the x570

[brazen slate]

Yeah, 3100 is a great budget CPU overall compared to others if you're not asking for too much

[jagged ember]

Also, could just stick with stock cooler but if you're ocing that's a different story

[cyan stone]

There a particular b550 that brings some good value to the table?

[jagged ember]

Hmm

[cyan stone]

And yeah, will be pushing an overclock

[brazen slate]

There's a shadow rock 3 which I heard is similar to the DRP4 or better, and it's a lil bit taller

[jagged ember]

Keep the cooler lol

[brazen slate]

At like a 190TDP

[jagged ember]

https://youtu.be/ihg6XQiqW7A

@cyan stone

You can trust the words of tech jesus

[cyan stone]

Yes lol

I believe

[junior crescent]

Could someone mind make a pc for 1800 australian dollars that is capable of streaming and gaming?

[jagged ember]

@cyan stone also why are you buying windows?

[cyan stone]

Uh... do I not need windows? Lol

[jagged ember]

ebay keys

Or

Use your Microsoft account and add windows license to your pc thru it

[cyan stone]

Ahhh, thanks

That makes a bit more sense

Lol

[jagged ember]

If you already have windows linked to a Microsoft account you can have like a certain number of copies of windows on other devices

Idk how much though

[drifting garnet]

Yes

[ember jetty]

What is VDG?

Cable*

...

What cable is this?

It says CPU on it

[jagged ember]

well, it's a cpu 8pin power

you plug that into the 8pin socket for your CPU power on your motherboard

[ember jetty]

I already pluged one of the same things in

[jagged ember]

and then plug it into the corresponding socket on your PSU (if it's modular)

you plug in both

[jagged ember]

yes

[ember jetty]

I have 2 different wires that both have 8 pins and both say cpu

[jagged ember]

do you have a modular power supply?

[ember jetty]

Imma read my manual

[ember jetty]

Yes

[jagged ember]

hey good instincts

your cpu only needs one 8 pin plugged into it

[ember jetty]

My first pc build, so I'm trash

[vernal pagoda]

o

[jagged ember]

its okay

i was there too

okay i gotta go

maybe be back soon

[ember jetty]

Mk

[brazen slate]

2nd one could be spare or for like dual CPU motherboards

[ember jetty]

Ok

What type of cable is this?

It has 2 outputs

8 pin

No description of what it is

[brazen slate]

Nice feet

[ember jetty]

Lol

[brazen slate]

Could show us what the plug part looks like

[ember jetty]

The one that connects to the PSU?

[drifting garnet]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sNbYdD
Sorry it took a little while. You could go higher end but it would not even be needed. Honestly, you could go cheaper than this if you wanted.

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty does the 8 pins on the 2 connector end split into 6+2?

[foggy hazel]

could you show the side with the latch?

[ember jetty]

Yes

Oh

[brazen slate]

That plug in GPU

[foggy hazel]

ah, if it splits, its the cable for GPU

[ember jetty]

It's for gpu

Mk

[foggy hazel]

correct :)

[brazen slate]

Dunno why no name on it

[ember jetty]

Guess I can't use it yet

[brazen slate]

Unless there is and you haven't shown yet lmao

[ember jetty]

Untill 3070 is in stock

It says PCIe on it

What is this one with circular holes

Wish there was more of a description for each cable

It has 3 of the same ports on 1 cable

And at the end is a 4 port thingy

[reef cape]

im thinking in the asus tuf b550m plus

[ember jetty]

This is Sata right?

[naive scaffold]

Does anyone have the MSI Optix MAG274 27"? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475088?Description=1080p 144 hz monitor&cm_re=1080p_144 hz monitor-_-24-475-088-_-Product

How is it?

[drifting garnet]

Oh my bad, the list I made was way over budget lemme fix it.

[foggy hazel]

that is molex @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

Molex?

[foggy hazel]

its the old standard for hdd/fans/ODD

[ember jetty]

Ah

[hardy oyster]

Quick question, is a gigabyte 1660 OC barely used for 200 worth it?

[foggy hazel]

the second picture, the one with a L shaped to it, is SATA power @ember jetty

[hardy oyster]

It’s the 3 fan design

[foggy hazel]

what is the new price of it @hardy oyster ?

[ember jetty]

Ok Sata power

[hardy oyster]

I’m now sure I tried looking them up but couldn’t find any in stock

[foggy hazel]

look at price history if you can find the specific model on pcpartpicker @hardy oyster

[hardy oyster]

Will check rn ty

[foggy hazel]

np :)

[hardy oyster]

It says 450

[foggy hazel]

that makes no sense

post the specific model here please?

[low star]

E

[hardy oyster]

Only thing it says about it is 1660 oc 6gb 3x fan with rgb I just asked for the model tho

[foggy hazel]

got a picture of it?

[foggy hazel]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N1660GAMING-OC-6GD#kf <- that looks like it

if that one is the card in question

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LXjJ7P/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1660-6-gb-gaming-oc-video-card-gv-n1660gaming-oc-6gd?history_days=730

have a look at that link

notice how i am looking back 2 years

@hardy oyster

[ember jetty]

Where do I plug the Stata power into

It's already in the motherboard

[jagged ember]

Sata power goes to ur hard drive

[ember jetty]

Also the sata power cable is like the molex

[jagged ember]

As does the smaller sata data cable

[foggy hazel]

Sata goes into the harddrives/ssd IF you have any that are NOT installed directly on the mainboard @ember jetty

[jagged ember]

Oh good clarification

Thanks naed

[foggy hazel]

:) you are very welcome :)

[ember jetty]

Thx

I plugged my Stata in Yay

[hardy oyster]

Yeah I see that. Seems like a pretty decent do to me just wasn’t sure.

Deal

[jagged ember]

Also, I haven't seen a 2012 style user name in forever

[foggy hazel]

@hardy oyster based on what i linked, i dont personally think its a good deal

but it is your choice :)

[ember jetty]

RGB adds another extra level of cables

[drifting garnet]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pvTfdD
Here you go

[hardy oyster]

No I respect your knowledge. That’s why I came here cause I wasn’t sure about used pricing and I’ll listen to what you have to say. Thank you 🙏

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome :)

a good way to judge prices @hardy oyster is to look at the actual launch reviews of the card

you will have MSRP pricing for it there

[hardy oyster]

Once again thank you very much

[ember jetty]

Linus makes everything seem so easy 😅

[foggy hazel]

once again, you are very welcome @hardy oyster and good luck on the hunt for a good deal :)

[jagged ember]

Linus makes production look easy

[foggy hazel]

because he has a VERY talented team :)

[jagged ember]

It isn't

But yeah it's his team

[ember jetty]

And experience

[foggy hazel]

well, its also him knowing when he doesnt know enough

and being able to say: okay, let me ask someone

[jagged ember]

Okay anthony, you can do the overclocking

[ember jetty]

Also if I don't have anything with molex do I just tuck the cable away?

[foggy hazel]

because if he didnt do that at a early point? there would not be a LMG

[jagged ember]

And the retro game stuff

[drifting garnet]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PjfLcT
Actually I changed your ram .

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty yes, just store it in your psu box :)

[ember jetty]

Ok

[inner crystal]

Who pinged me in build pics?

Confused

[jagged ember]

Idk

[foggy hazel]

there will be a number of cables extra when you are completely done. And storing them there, makes it more likely you will actually remember

[ember jetty]

Ok

[foggy hazel]

@inner crystal might have been a wrong ping.

check with the search function

[ember jetty]

I have to remember not to throw away the stuff

[inner crystal]

well it's gone now

[foggy hazel]

at the end of it all, you should have 2 boxes @ember jetty

[jagged ember]

Yeah, keep your product boxes

[foggy hazel]

your mainboard box, and your psu box

[ember jetty]

Okk

[foggy hazel]

those 2 will contain all the "random" bits

and yes, IF you have the room, you can store the rest somewhere

[ember jetty]

The harddrive cage is a nuisance

[foggy hazel]

in case of returns etc

[ember jetty]

Blocks all my cables

[jagged ember]

I keep all boxes in case of faults

[foggy hazel]

i fold my boxes and then store them

[jagged ember]

Ooh smart

I don't lol

[foggy hazel]

yes, it almost sounds like i have been doing this for a while right? :D

[jagged ember]

Almost

[foggy hazel]

good

[jagged ember]

[foggy hazel]

dont want to sound like i know what i am talking about

that would be absolutely horrific

[ember jetty]

Wish I never bought RGB fans

[jagged ember]

Ah yes

The conundrum of photon emission from fans at 3am in the morning

[ember jetty]

Wat is this

[jagged ember]

Oh no

[open peak]

But they boost your speed by 20%

[ember jetty]

XD

[jagged ember]

Looks like a 5v rgb header

Let me double check

Yes, it should be

[ember jetty]

I have a DF600 Flux as my case

Mk

Does the rgb header go on the mobo

[jagged ember]

Look for an rgb header on the mobo that has 3 pins that resemble what you're holding

[ember jetty]

Lol

Ok

[foggy hazel]

also, while you are at it, please post your mainboard model here

i have a suspicion you will have more questions :)

[ember jetty]

Ok

Asus X570 Tuf Gaming Plus Wifi

Can I plug the rgb header here?

[foggy hazel]

yes, thats a hub for it

[ember jetty]

Cause I have 3 and my mobo has 1

[foggy hazel]

which brings up the next question

what case is that?

[ember jetty]

Antec DF600 Flux

Thx for all your help

[jagged ember]

wow that case has an rgb hub

[foggy hazel]

you are welcome, but also thank @jagged ember

[ember jetty]

Yep

[foggy hazel]

i am just lurking here:)

[ember jetty]

Both of you are big help

[jagged ember]

Lol honestly naed is the real MVP

better explanations

[ember jetty]

I would be stuck stating at the mobo power connector

Without your guy's help

I have 6 more RGB fans incoming

[foggy hazel]

oh joy!

[ember jetty]

3 on AIO, 3 on case ;n;

So many cables

Next dumb question

[foggy hazel]

there are no stupid questions, only silly answers.

[ember jetty]

What is dis?

[foggy hazel]

sata male power connector

[ember jetty]

Oh wait

[foggy hazel]

goes in one of the sata plugs from before

[ember jetty]

It's connected to RGB header

Hub*

[foggy hazel]

its coming from the hub with the fans

its for supplying power to all of the fans etc

[ember jetty]

Ah

Ok

So very important

[foggy hazel]

quite!

[ember jetty]

Not to be stashed away

[foggy hazel]

not unless you want to dig it out later after a lot of cursing

[ember jetty]

XD

[jagged ember]

but if you cable manage decently, you should not have trouble...

emphasis on the if

cable managing is hard work

[foggy hazel]

very true Wide :)

[ember jetty]

Noice am I right 😋

[foggy hazel]

:)

[whole harbor]

@foggy hazel how bad is it to get a 120gb ssd

[foggy hazel]

wait until you have it all in and managed :)

@whole harbor its not bad, just potentially annoying space wise

[jagged ember]

just check if it has dram

[whole harbor]

im gonna get a 2tb

Barracuda

[jagged ember]

super important in a small capacity like that

[whole harbor]

Wats dram

[jagged ember]

it allows your ssd to maintain it's speed as the drive fills up

[ember jetty]

Ooh I have 2gb barracuda

[whole harbor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2LYdD

Thats what im getting

[jagged ember]

without dram, your ssd will slow down as you fill it up

[whole harbor]

Can u check fot dram

[ember jetty]

I have 500gb crucial p2

Does the p2 have dram?

[jagged ember]

i will look

[whole harbor]

:🍆

[ember jetty]

Only reason I am building new pc is because my laptop with the 960m has broken fans, and only pulls 30fps on assassin's creed syndicate

[jagged ember]

oohh

[whole harbor]

Tuff

[jagged ember]

the p2 actually has no dram

heck

[ember jetty]

Oof

Sheisse

[foggy hazel]

its the P1 that has dram iirc

its not the end of the world @ember jetty

[whole harbor]

@jagged ember does my ssd have dram?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2LYdD

[ember jetty]

Why would P1 have dram but p2 doesn't

[foggy hazel]

cost cutting

[whole harbor]

cause of stuff

[jagged ember]

ssd does not have dram

[ember jetty]

Oof

[jagged ember]

Inland Professional Sata does not

[whole harbor]

Which do i get

[jagged ember]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UewkGqEnq3Zp9jJgV9zDH05W8x8RIuFebobOtURysWA/edit#gid=0

[whole harbor]

120gb ssd

[jagged ember]

check this out if you aren't sure about your SSD

[ember jetty]

Does ram make up for dram?

[foggy hazel]

no

[ember jetty]

Oop

[foggy hazel]

again, dont worry about it

focus on your build :)

[ember jetty]

So the storage won't use my 64gb

Ok

[foggy hazel]

nope

[jagged ember]

at this point true it shouldn't be an immediate concern

[foggy hazel]

and yes, i know Wide, there is HMB etc

[ember jetty]

I'm trying to cable manage now

[jagged ember]

worry about it after the build boots lol

i.e. me regretting my NVME boot drive being garbage

[ember jetty]

I don't have GPU yet

I might buy a 1030 as a placeholder

And wait for 3070

[next kestrel]

1030 is worse than certain integrated gpus lol

[jagged ember]

this is true

[ember jetty]

Ik

But it's for cheap placeholder

It's around the performance of 960m

[foggy hazel]

however, a 1030 vs no integrated, is infinitely more useful @next kestrel :)

[next kestrel]

that is true

[jagged ember]

it'll still run mc shaders

[next kestrel]

but imo for a placeholder a 750ti is a bit more better

and more available

[ember jetty]

I also need a placeholder to edit videos with

[whole harbor]

@jagged ember is there any $15-$25 120gb ssd that have dram?

[jagged ember]

hmm

[foggy hazel]

skip out on the 2tb HDD @whole harbor and buy an actual ssd instead

[ember jetty]

Mhm

M.2 ssd

[jagged ember]

i can try looking, but i agree with naed

[whole harbor]

@foggy hazel which one

[foggy hazel]

then save up and add the 2rb hdd later

[jagged ember]

get a bigger capacity ssd instead

[foggy hazel]

sn750/mp34/sx 8200 pro

[jagged ember]

Mp34, SN750, or a crucial P1 if you're on a budget

[foggy hazel]

whichever is cheapest

[jagged ember]

sx8200pro got worse controller recently tho naed

[foggy hazel]

or yes, P1

oh yes, that is true

[jagged ember]

it's not on the same level as the former 2 anymore :(

[foggy hazel]

thank you for reminding me about that

[jagged ember]

really sucks they did that

[foggy hazel]

aye

[ember jetty]

What is this

[jagged ember]

ah, the dreaded pins

[foggy hazel]

fpanel

[whole harbor]

Whats the cheapest

[ember jetty]

One plugs into hub

[whole harbor]

1tb ssd

Not cheapest

[jagged ember]

front panel pins yes

[whole harbor]

But good

Like $50-$70

[jagged ember]

I use my manual to figure out which of those things go where

[ember jetty]

H.D.D LED +_

The minus is under the plus

POWER SW

[foggy hazel]

there you go @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

POWER LED+

Oop

[jagged ember]

oh

[ember jetty]

Thx xd

[jagged ember]

big preesh

[foggy hazel]

it has the speaker in the same block

[ember jetty]

Me confused

[foggy hazel]

and ALL the led connectors

[ember jetty]

So I put HDD sideways?

[jagged ember]

wait, are you talking about the pins?

or the actual hdd

[ember jetty]

Pins

[jagged ember]

ah

just plug them into the right pin, i don't think orientation of the lettering on it matters

[ember jetty]

Ok?

Ahh ok

Thx

Are the wires correctly orientated

[foggy hazel]

those 4 are the ones you have to care about

that is the right image

[ember jetty]

Ok

[jagged ember]

honestly i can't figure out a way to explain how to plug these pins in

[foggy hazel]

@jagged ember simplest is perhaps like this:

[whole harbor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJfBqp @jagged ember

[foggy hazel]

have the person focus on 1 pin at a time

and simply go from there

IF i am on a voice call with someone assembling

i have them confirm that a specific pin is number 1

[jagged ember]

nice, su800 is a good budget ssd

[foggy hazel]

and then it just becomes a "put what you are holding at pin number X" game

[jagged ember]

'good' as in 560 read 520 write

but

[ember jetty]

Lel

[jagged ember]

budget

[whole harbor]

Is it 7200rpm?

[jagged ember]

that's an ssd dulvn

[ember jetty]

What is, IN VDG

[whole harbor]

Mk

note to mind

Ssds dont have rpm

LUL

[jagged ember]

naed big brain

[foggy hazel]

what is it twisted with @ember jetty ?

[jagged ember]

imagine how many promotions you'd get as a customer service lol

[foggy hazel]

no thank you, been there, have the container of t-shirts Wide

[ember jetty]

Umm

[jagged ember]

oof fair enough

[ember jetty]

A power thing

For rhby

[foggy hazel]

aye. its rgb

[ember jetty]

RGB*

[foggy hazel]

just like before

[ember jetty]

Does it go on mobo

Or the stupid hub

[foggy hazel]

where does it come from?

[ember jetty]

The hub

XD

[foggy hazel]

the one from the hub goes to the mainboard

that is the master control cable

[ember jetty]

Ohhh

Wow

Thx

[foggy hazel]

or rather, it should be at least :)

[ember jetty]

And where does in vgb go?

VDG*

[foggy hazel]

picture?

[ember jetty]

3 input

[foggy hazel]

and i imagine that comes from the hub too?

[ember jetty]

Yes

It splits from the rgb thing

[foggy hazel]

that is the fan control part

its just a bit weird that it has that shape thou

[foggy hazel]

so, it goes to the mainboard fan controller bits

[ember jetty]

2 filled

1 empty

[jagged ember]

heck that is pretty weird for a fan controller

[foggy hazel]

aye

aye

[north hull]

@ember jetty what parts did you get for your first pc?

[ember jetty]

Let me give the part list

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ShadwZedX/saved/#view=YFrFgs

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty very close to where you connected the RGB on the mainboard

there should be a fan controller plug

so, my question is this: where did you connect the other part of that cable?

[ember jetty]

Hmm?

Umm

The white RGB thing

No other RGB header has a in VDG input

Non that I can see at least

[foggy hazel]

a bit up and to the LEFT, there are 2 fan controller connectors

right next to a different RGB connector (that is also white. and NO that does not work with your RGB stuff)

[ember jetty]

Ok

I see it

[naive scaffold]

Thoughts on this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cQdQdD

[scenic turret]

Help please. Build a new PC today. It's was running perfectly until it crashed and turned off by itself. It's now in a bootloop.
SPECS:
-ROG B550-A (Updated bios already)
-R5 5600x
-850W EVGA
-16gb ADATA XPG 3200
-RTX 3070FE

I already reset cmos

And unseated one ram slot

[ember jetty]

Kinda noice build @naive scaffold

Naed

[foggy hazel]

dont take the CPU one of those two @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

Where is the fan controller

Hmm?

Where ar the left

[naive scaffold]

Would you say the Ryzen 5 3600 will work with not much issues with the 3070? @ember jetty

[jagged ember]

3600 will be fine with the 3070

[ember jetty]

Umm, it might have partial bottleneck, I have no idea what I am saying

Don't listen to me

[jagged ember]

also, you might as well get the XT

same price

[ember jetty]

Yea

[jagged ember]

literally

[ember jetty]

So Naed

I don't remove the CPU fan one

And I put it next to CPU one

[foggy hazel]

aye

[naive scaffold]

The XT? @jagged ember , or were you replying to someone else there.

[jagged ember]

3600XT is same price as 3600

[scenic turret]

Wideus help?

[ember jetty]

The wire looks like it is dangerously stretching

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty the one you are supposed to use is the one that is closest to the white RGB pins up there

[ember jetty]

850 Watt PSU for 3070 and 5600?

Like that?

[foggy hazel]

650w is enough

[ember jetty]

Yea 750 should be max

[foggy hazel]

yes, like that

[ember jetty]

The wire is stretching

[foggy hazel]

and?

[ember jetty]

Partially

[wide sparrow]

Mmmmm

[ember jetty]

Is that ok?

[foggy hazel]

if it stays on, yes

if not, you will have to get an extension

[ember jetty]

Ok

More money, and I'm already 200$ over budget

[foggy hazel]

its a 2-3 usd cable

and again, that looks fine

[ember jetty]

Ok

[jagged ember]

@scenic turret before you boot, plug in a usb with windows media image into your rear usb port and boot from it

[ember jetty]

The IFixit kit is amazing

[jagged ember]

then you can select startup repair and let it do its thing

it should fix the issue

[plush mist]

ifixit is not necessary

all u need is phillips head screwdriver

but its ur choice

[jagged ember]

ifixit best fixit

[ember jetty]

True, but tweezers so useful

[jagged ember]

lol tru tho if you already have a set of those tools you don't need an ifixit

[scenic turret]

Already created boot drive. It ran smoothly for an 1hr and just decide to crash after Minecraft rtx

Now bootlooping

[jagged ember]

rip minecraft rtx broke pc

still, my advice stands

plug it into a usb2.0 port in the back and boot from it

[ember jetty]

Lol

[scenic turret]

Ok

[karmic bobcat]

I wonder if your processor said nah and decided to die after RTX mc. It’s a joke btw

[foggy hazel]

btw @ember jetty could you take a picture that shows all of your mainboard?

[ember jetty]

Ok

[vital oracle]

can you guys help me build a pc around $700?

gaming pc

prebuilds are also fine

i need everything besides a keyboard, mouse, and headset

[ember jetty]

Ok

I love making partpicker lists

[jagged ember]

oh, switch to a p1

hang on i'll do it

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty okay, so. you know all those cables you have coming out the same cutout?

[ember jetty]

Which one?

Oh

[foggy hazel]

that mess

[ember jetty]

The one with that

Yea?

[jagged ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFbgnL

@vital oracle

[foggy hazel]

there are holes that are much more practical to use @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

I should move it ok!

[jagged ember]

you can improve the storage on that build, but i think there's enough leeway for a monitor and keeb and mouse

[foggy hazel]

@ember jetty those two to start with

[ember jetty]

Wish I bought cable extension

Oh ok

Wow

[foggy hazel]

you should have plenty of length

[ember jetty]

You are boss

Forgot about top holes

[plush bough]

hi, can you guys help me build a pc that is around $1400-1500

[foggy hazel]

the hole you are using currently, should be for the GPU power cables and nothing else

[jagged ember]

@plush bough https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3d84dD if you can get your hands on 6800XT and the 5600x

[plush bough]

thx

[foggy hazel]

also, what is that?

[jagged ember]

it's a bit over budget tho lol

[ember jetty]

Umm

The

HD Audio

[foggy hazel]

and what is wrapped around it?

[ember jetty]

It's own wire

[foggy hazel]

that looks weird

[formal plover]

Are you making a list or actually building?

[jagged ember]

yeah, i'd pull that one through

[foggy hazel]

could you take a close up of that section @ember jetty ?

[ember jetty]

I just redid it

[foggy hazel]

oki

think of the back of the case as the attic where you store as much random stuff as possible

that is what the space there is for afterall :)

[ember jetty]

U mean here?

[jagged ember]

tecc tip #naed: hide your cables in the back of your case

[still roost]

compa.misa#5757 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[formal plover]

As long as the panel closes its fine

[foggy hazel]

aye

[formal plover]

Business in the front

Party in the back

[foggy hazel]

aye @ember jetty

[jagged ember]

yes, utter chaos

good

[weary stirrup]

Can someone help me with a Budjet bulid

[jagged ember]

how budget

[formal plover]

Sure

What's your budget?

Also what would you be doing with it?

Gaming?

[ember jetty]

Do I move these?

[summer pasture]

Can somebody please make @weary stirrup compaa build with a budget around 600 usd

[ember jetty]

That big lump of wire

[formal plover]

Ok

[jagged ember]

600 usd?

gotcha

[formal plover]

Is it for gaming?

[foggy hazel]

your call @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

I have 600 USD build

[jagged ember]

600USD

[ember jetty]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ShadwZedX/saved/#view=948VwP

[formal plover]

Does it have 3100 and 1650 super?

[ember jetty]

599 usd

[jagged ember]

it's technically 580 usd

but it's got a 3600xt and a 5600xt GPU

alas, only a 1tb boot drive

[summer pasture]

@jagged ember the gpu price isnt included

[jagged ember]

oh, damn i didn't notice that LOL

[summer pasture]

Hah yeah

[jagged ember]

never mind me, then

[formal plover]

Get a better psu

Get the super variant of the 1650

Also the 3100 is better than the 2600 for gaming

And it's cheaper

[ember jetty]

I have part list

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ShadwZedX/saved/#view=948VwP

[formal plover]

Also a cheap 512gb ssd

[ember jetty]

1050ti

[formal plover]

Nah

1050 ti not worth it

1650 s is worth the few dollars

[ember jetty]

Hmm ok

True

[summer pasture]

Im going to go now

[formal plover]

Alright

See ya

[jagged ember]

ouch 600 is hard to make a build for

[ember jetty]

Naed

[formal plover]

I can make one tomorrow

[ember jetty]

Does this look ok?

[formal plover]

With a 512gb ssd

[summer pasture]

See ya

[formal plover]

3100

1650 super

[formal plover]

I'm on mobile rn

[ember jetty]

Ooh cool RGB ram

[foggy hazel]

better @ember jetty

[formal plover]

Why show off that ram when you have an ampere gpu?

[foggy hazel]

now you just need the remaining parts

[scenic turret]

Still bootlooping

Can't reboot into external windows drive

[formal plover]

Oh

Hm

[ember jetty]

Can anyone sell me a 3070 for 550 or less

[scenic turret]

Unseated ram, unseated gpu, reset CMOS already

[formal plover]

Sorry I dont have one

And if I had it, I'd probably want to keep it tbh

[ember jetty]

All I need now is my GPU

[jagged ember]

did you try doing what i suggested already?

[scenic turret]

Changing out my cablemod with original cable to see if thats the issue

[ember jetty]

Could I power it on rn?

[scenic turret]

I try reinstalling windows but it wouldn't boot into it

I can still access bios

[jagged ember]

it wouldn't even boot into the USB?

[formal plover]

@ember jetty what cpu you have?

[ember jetty]

3700X

[jagged ember]

try plugging the USB with your windows installer into another USB port

[formal plover]

Ok

[brazen slate]

Hm.

[formal plover]

You might have to go big navi

[scenic turret]

K

[ember jetty]

Me?

[brazen slate]

If you're on about CPU + navi performance, that only works for Zen 3 and RX 6000

[formal plover]

6800 xt isnt as good as 3080 but it still kicks 2080 ti butt and it's $50 less than the 3080

[formal plover]

Yea you

[ember jetty]

I can only spend 550$ on gpu

[brazen slate]

Yeah, 6800XT is good enough if you're not gonna be using GPU for streaming or RTX

[formal plover]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

or for rtx voice and dlss

etc

[formal plover]

Maybe find a used 2080 ti

[brazen slate]

Yeah, but DLSS is eh, only used for RTX

[ember jetty]

I strem

[formal plover]

Or 2080 super

[jagged ember]

good luck getting normal prices for last gen tho

all of them are now limited edition

[ember jetty]

Lol

[brazen slate]

lol yeah

I noticed 3600 went from 180$ to 250$

[jagged ember]

yeah

[brazen slate]

It's so dumb

[jagged ember]

literally same price as a 3600XT

[ember jetty]

Umm

[brazen slate]

Or 5600XT

[ember jetty]

I smell smoke

[formal plover]

3600xt is bad

[brazen slate]

Far better

[jagged ember]

oo that's true the 5600xt

[brazen slate]

Uh oh

[ember jetty]

I think I did something wrong

[scenic turret]

Switched out cablemod and attempting to reinstall via different port

[formal plover]

Unless you're an OCer

[brazen slate]

Turn off pc and unplug psu

[scenic turret]

Still bootlooping

[ember jetty]

Unless it is the fan spinning sound

[jagged ember]

really weird the pc isn't booting from your windows installer usb

[scenic turret]

I already turned off the pc and unplug multiple times to unseat modules again

[ember jetty]

Omg

[brazen slate]

Just uhh, turn off PC if you are smelling smoke @ember jetty

[ember jetty]

The fans smell like Vietnam factory

[jagged ember]

hm

that's good, right guys?

[brazen slate]

Mm

I like me a good smoked PSU for dinner

[jagged ember]

it's like caviar