#building-and-recc-chat

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robust birch
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These newegg deals are good

zenith sentinel
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part of the reason I went for that monitor btw was knowing best monitor that didn't have things like dead pixels or backlight bleed. What monitors do you guys think is the best for gaming. I do a lot of coding and am used to Retina displays on Mac. Am I gonna get anything similar on a PC.

little osprey
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ch!r34 yiff

zinc marsh
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for gaming I'd go like 2k and 144hz

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especially with a gpu like that

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I just feel like having a gpu that expensive and only running it at 1080p 60hz is almost a waste

zenith sentinel
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any specific monitors. I know HDMI 2.1 is supposed to offer more bandwidth than older connections.

zinc marsh
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It's really hard to say with monitors, it really is just what you need and how much you're willing to spend

zenith sentinel
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I like the wide screen - immersive look..

zinc marsh
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curved?

neat epoch
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think he meant ultra wide

zenith sentinel
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yes. As long as there's not a lot of distortion with text

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yes

zinc marsh
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yeah but a lot of people like curved when working with ultrawide

neat epoch
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fair

zinc marsh
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I've got a curved monitor rn and it's pretty nice

little leaf
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@foggy hazel suggestions?

zenith sentinel
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I know for sure I don't want a TN panel.

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@zinc marsh What was the model monitor you use?

zinc marsh
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you need really good color accuracy or are you ok with va?

zenith sentinel
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possibly. I heard they are often prone to backlight bleed too.

foggy hazel
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@little leaf anything you absolutely have to save on that m.2 ?

urban oyster
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Ctrl atl del just saved my build lolol.

neat epoch
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?

toxic widget
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Ima Put a rtx 3080 in a H510i case LULW

urban oyster
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Installing windows

zinc marsh
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but it's nice

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but if you're going a 6800xt or 3080 I'd go a higher res and refresh rate

toxic widget
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Yo ngl the r7 5800x is pretty fresh

urban oyster
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27 gb of vram go brrr.

little osprey
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Im waiting on 3060 ti

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Probably wont find one in stock till 2022 tho

little leaf
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@foggy hazel I have out minecraft server

foggy hazel
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no backups?

little leaf
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I do but the last back up was about a day ago

foggy hazel
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still got the usb stick with the windows installer on it?

little leaf
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yes

foggy hazel
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try and boot it and go the repair route

little leaf
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already have

formal cosmos
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How much fan headers does my mobo have?

foggy hazel
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4

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@little leaf and did it error out or?

little leaf
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I went into trouble shooting mode and it said no error detected

formal cosmos
foggy hazel
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@formal cosmos i was wrong, i missed two in a weird spot

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there is 6 total

formal cosmos
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WOW

foggy hazel
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there you go

formal cosmos
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So I don’t need to buy a fan splitter?

foggy hazel
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the bottom middle is 2 next to each other

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depends on the length of your wires

formal cosmos
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I’m thinking of using the stock fans for a while and then getting the arctic p12 fans

foggy hazel
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your call

formal cosmos
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So they’re both good?

foggy hazel
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@little leaf hm, any other machine you can test the drive on?

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or you got a second m.2 slot you could move it to @little leaf ?

formal cosmos
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I went with the asrock b550 because of my budget

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USD

foggy hazel
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its a question of looks mainly @formal cosmos, so as i said, its your choice :)

little leaf
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@foggy hazel I have a machine at a moment and the board only has one slot

foggy hazel
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darn

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give me a bit to think @little leaf

raw mist
little osprey
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you could probably get something with a couple more fans for about the same price but im not really good with choosing the best so ill leave that to the techies

urban oyster
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New windows Downloader feels like talking to a frigging employee from gamestop.

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Would you like to add unlimited dlc for x dollars....

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Smh.

little osprey
urban oyster
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Oml.

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And they updated Internet Explorer.

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So it automatically signs u in.

obsidian temple
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anyone know a good non-rgb cpu cooler

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for like 150usd

little osprey
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nochua

balmy patio
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for what

little osprey
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what cpu?

obsidian temple
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56 00x

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5600x*

balmy patio
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jus use the stock one

little osprey
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^

obsidian temple
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okay

little osprey
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Is the 5600x worth upgrading from a 3600x?

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Hearing mixed reviews figured i'd ask here.

obsidian temple
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if ur happy with what you have you dont need to upgrade

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3600x is already a great cpu

little osprey
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Im content for sure I just dont know if its that much better. On paper its like a 15-20% upgrade but in benchmarks on youtube these guys are getting 75 more fps

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which makes no sense to me

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Feels like the benchmarks are fudged are something

obsidian temple
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well idk about that

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you should ask someone else then

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not me

little osprey
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Yeah Im not that informed either.

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I might just wait till Zen 4

formal cosmos
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Guys

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Do I have to worry about that^

still roostBOT
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GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

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little osprey
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Dang

obsidian temple
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if you want to use a type c or no?

little osprey
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Where are you gonna find a 3070 for 500

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no

vital scaffold
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lol

obsidian temple
little osprey
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you shouldnt worry

formal cosmos
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Okay

little osprey
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Also

obsidian temple
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type c is just a ohne charger lol

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jk

little osprey
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Drop the SN750 and get the 550 if its cheaper

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You wont notice a difference

obsidian temple
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mp34

vital scaffold
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tell me pros and cons

little osprey
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oof

formal cosmos
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My budget is $1200

obsidian temple
formal cosmos
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Can you guys change some things that make the pc cheaper

little osprey
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You could save $15 on Ram

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Get CL18

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Instead of 16

vital scaffold
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who me

little osprey
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Frequency is about 1000% more important than CL

formal cosmos
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Can you change the list @little osprey

obsidian temple
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stick with cl16

neat epoch
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^

formal cosmos
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Okay

obsidian temple
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also, if ur spending that much on ur psu, you should rather get a corsair rm 750

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its the exact same price

formal cosmos
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I don’t wanna spend that much that’s the thing

obsidian temple
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okay

formal cosmos
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I don’t think I want my budget to be $1200 anymore

little osprey
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BenQ XL2546 DyAc vs BenQ XL2540

which one should i try to get???

stoic island
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Hai

obsidian temple
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i can try to lower the price?

formal cosmos
formal cosmos
little osprey
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Also that list is wrong

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Newegg is sold out

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Just checked

stoic island
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@vital scaffold pros: uh, it's cheap I guess?
Cons: 2 gen ago CPU, 2 gen ago mobo, dramless ssd, weird case.

still roostBOT
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GrimmRx#3128 has been warned

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little osprey
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Dang

stoic island
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@formal cosmos seasonic focus GM 650w for PSU to save 20$

little osprey
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^

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Yah

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Thats what I have

stoic island
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And mobo can be cheaper

formal cosmos
little osprey
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For my 5600xt

stoic island
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I'm on mobile

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It's gonna be harder for me than you

little osprey
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Why

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Who buys windows

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You can get it for like $25 if you really insist on buying

formal cosmos
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I just don’t know if the extra money for 3600mhz ram is worth it

little osprey
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It is

obsidian temple
formal cosmos
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From 3200mhz?

little osprey
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A lot of people will tell you 3200 cl16 and 3600 cl18 are the same

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They are lying

stoic island
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@obsidian temple h510 why

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Bad

obsidian temple
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srry

stoic island
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@little osprey it's the same first word read

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But first word read doesn't take into account infinity fabric

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Which contributes to performance

little osprey
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Freq is what Ryzens crave

stoic island
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God damn mobile

little osprey
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Mobile sucks sometimes

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Feel ya

stoic island
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Autocorrect doesn't work when I want to, it does work when I don't wait it to

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Want*

little osprey
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So how long till DDr5 do you guys think?

storm sky
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hello

little osprey
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Zen4 maybe?

storm sky
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can i get some input on a build?

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feedback i mean

little osprey
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shoot

stoic island
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@little osprey next gen should be ddr5

storm sky
stoic island
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Am5

little osprey
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Yeah I think with 5nm DDr5 would be a good time to release

storm sky
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This is going to be a xmas present for my sister. she isnt a big gamer but most she'll use it for is for a little bit of vr gaming

little osprey
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Might skip Zen 3 and get Zen4 cause if DDR5 drops you'll need new mobo anyway

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There is no GPU

storm sky
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integrated graphics cpu

little osprey
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^

formal cosmos
little osprey
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Can you do VR with IG?

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I mean I know you /could/ but like what VR is she playing

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Most mobos have at least 4

storm sky
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Oculus ques link, and yeah it supports it

little osprey
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Worst case get a splitter

formal cosmos
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Do you know how many tho?

little osprey
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Any board worth its salt should be able to have at least 3 fans on 1 header

storm sky
little osprey
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The website just says "multiple"

zinc marsh
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@storm sky it would prob work but doubt it would be any good

little osprey
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@formal cosmos

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Look it up on youtube maybe

formal cosmos
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Ok

little osprey
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Im not a fan of Asus mobos i normally go MSI

storm sky
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I was also looking at a rx500 series gpu

stoic island
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Back

little osprey
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Even a dirt cheap GPU would be better than integrated

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Could grab a 1650 for like 150

stoic island
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@formal cosmos so god damn expensive

little osprey
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With all the sales

stoic island
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Didn't you want to go cheaper

little osprey
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Or a 1650S

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What is your budget?

little osprey
storm sky
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$500

formal cosmos
stoic island
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@formal cosmos pro4 is like 130usd, that thing is 180

obsidian temple
stoic island
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@obsidian temple no rgb on ram, cheaper motherboard, Seasonic focus GM 650w for PSU

little leaf
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@foggy hazel any Ideas

obsidian temple
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the mobo i bought already

stoic island
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Non-rgb ballistix is like 75$

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Damn it

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That's the biggest monies saver

obsidian temple
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180$ seemed good

little osprey
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also with that mobo plus the 3070 puts you over your 1200 budget but maybe by the time youre even able to get a 3070 youd get the money for it

stoic island
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Heh

little osprey
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Bruh

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Screw a 3070

stoic island
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I'd go something like B550m pro vdh wifi for saving money at 110$ for the board

little osprey
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Get a 3060 ti

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On December 2nd

formal cosmos
stoic island
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Or like a b550 phantom gaming 4 at 105usd usually and get like a 20$ adapter

little osprey
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Better than a 2080 super

little osprey
obsidian temple
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technically my budget is 1500 but i want to save as much as possible

stoic island
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@little osprey gotta waite for pricing and specifics

little osprey
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Pricing already dropped I think

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399

stoic island
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That's good

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@little osprey don't think it's official yet

formal cosmos
stoic island
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Just leaks for MSRP

obsidian temple
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its practically official

reef cape
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best budget micro atx b450 board for ryzen 2600??

little osprey
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Dang boy thats a lot of errors

stoic island
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Practically isn't official

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@reef cape why a b450 and why a 2600

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Why not 3600

little osprey
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I dont think MSRP is official yet

stoic island
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:p

little osprey
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Just the release date

formal cosmos
little osprey
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Although I doubt a 3060ti would be more than 399 as the "XX60" gpus are their mid range

stoic island
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Additional 4 pin doesn't matter, dunno about daisy chain

naive leaf
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Can someone help me to locate where my hdd is?

stoic island
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@little osprey but we won't know until it's official

little osprey
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True

naive leaf
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Its not showing in bios or disk management

stoic island
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I'm gonna guess there might be a struggle against AMD for pricing

little osprey
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You gotta manually do it

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@naive leaf

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If its new

stoic island
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@naive leaf then you just gotta try different sata slots manually

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Plug em into a diff slot

naive leaf
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How do i do that @little osprey

reef cape
little osprey
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Youtube baby

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Prices are kinda messed up rn

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I payed 320 for a 5600xt

stoic island
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115$ cpu and 80$ mltherboard

formal cosmos
stoic island
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Usb-c doesn't matter

little osprey
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^

stoic island
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Too lazy to look into Daisy chained

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Extra 4 pin power doesn't matter

little osprey
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daisy chained is for fans

reef cape
stoic island
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@little osprey sometimes there are Daisy chained pcie power cables

little osprey
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Really?

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Never heard of that

formal cosmos
stoic island
obsidian temple
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what do i need for a bios update?

little osprey
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b450 I think too

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Oh wait

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Nvm

stoic island
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Not guaranteed out of box for b450

reef cape
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@stoic island thank you

stoic island
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If you don't have anything now that uses it

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You don't need it

formal cosmos
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Ik my keyboard uses it

stoic island
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Rear io

storm sky
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I am pretty sure I have a b450 and it worked out of the box

stoic island
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I'm talking usb-c front io

formal cosmos
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Oh

little osprey
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THe one I got did

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MSI b450 gaming plus max

stoic island
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Focus on the word guaranteed

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And the context of the sentence :p

little osprey
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But not all will

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Yeah

stoic island
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Not all b450 came with the updated bios

formal cosmos
stoic island
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Msi max does

little osprey
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I know some of the asrocks dont

obsidian temple
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will the rog strix b550-f wifi work out of the box with 5600x?

stoic island
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@obsidian temple no guarantees

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It should have bios flashback tho

obsidian temple
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yeah it does

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idk what thats for tho

formal cosmos
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I’m sorry

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I thought the asrock b550 mobo didn’t have a type c

stoic island
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@obsidian temple it lets you update bios just with a usb stick

little osprey
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Need another pc tho

obsidian temple
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can i use a laptop?

little osprey
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Yeah

stoic island
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@formal cosmos it doesn't have type c for case, but it has usb c on the back (rear io)

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@obsidian temple wdym

obsidian temple
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to update bios

little osprey
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He means to put the update on the usb

obsidian temple
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bios flashback

little osprey
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And transfer

stoic island
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Uh no? You plug in usb stick with the file on it

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And you press the button

little osprey
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Yeah

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He means can he download the update

obsidian temple
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can i dowload the file from a laptop

little osprey
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With a laptop

stoic island
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Yea

obsidian temple
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okay

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i thought for a second i would need to buy a prebuil;t in order for my build to even work lol

stoic island
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Lol no

obsidian temple
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that wouldve been scary

stoic island
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Just need usb with the file on it

obsidian temple
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thats good

little osprey
stoic island
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Fat32 would be required tho

little osprey
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You could go to the public library and download it

stoic island
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@little osprey 3600x price went wack tho

little osprey
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wym?

obsidian temple
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but sa long as i can from a laptop im fine

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my dad has a macbook pro 16

inland parrot
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Hey how do i change my cpu fan speed and where do i look to change the cpu fan curve

stoic island
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Bios

little osprey
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besides the price from the 3600x. everything is good, right?

little leaf
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@foggy hazel Any Ideas?

plucky oar
stoic island
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@plucky oar crap ssd

plucky oar
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okay

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but that can be changed easilly

versed rock
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Step 1: No Intel

wanton cliff
versed rock
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Ben, get a Chromebook for him

still roostBOT
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zinc marsh
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Maybe, I'd get a few 3090s in there for em

stoic island
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That's way overkill for just work

versed rock
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Wtf, a 3600X and a 1660 Super?

stoic island
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Not even as a joke

wanton cliff
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i know

severe axle
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get a ryzen cpu with a G at the end, with stock cooler

versed rock
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For friggin Google Docs and emails?

stoic island
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I understand you want to get them a good pc

versed rock
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Chromebook

little osprey
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not that

stoic island
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But you might want to scale it down to more like 3100 and 1650 super

little osprey
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you sure thats just for your dad?

wanton cliff
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im also going to use it for LAN parties and stuff as a spare PC

zinc marsh
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I'd also slap a 5900x in there

plucky oar
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no get him like a 3200g

wanton cliff
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it was a joke lmao

versed rock
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🤦

zinc marsh
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maybe water cool it

wanton cliff
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obviously its not just going to be used for that

versed rock
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Why would you use your DAD'S PC for a spare PC?

stoic island
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60hz monitor

wanton cliff
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because he almost never uses it anyways

versed rock
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So get him a Chromebook and build yourself a LAN box.

zinc marsh
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get an ultra wide 240 hz monitor so he can write emails at max efficiency

plucky oar
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yes

stoic island
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@wanton cliff idc what it's for, NZXT H510 is a no

wanton cliff
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the reason I got the 60hz monitor is because his current monitor uses VGA, and the 1660 super doesnt

stoic island
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I suggest a Coolermaster H500 or something that has a handle if you want to take it elsewhere

wanton cliff
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@stoic island why is that? ive never build in one before

stoic island
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Airflow

wanton cliff
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ah

stoic island
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I hate h510 for bad airflow

wanton cliff
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p300 then?

stoic island
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I still suggest a Coolermaster h500 for the handle so it's easier to take around

plucky oar
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p300 mesh if you really need to cheap out on the case

stoic island
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It was like 80$ on Newegg earlier this week

wanton cliff
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its not going to be taken around

stoic island
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'useb it for lan parties'?

plucky oar
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i would say why noctua fans it is kinda a waste of money

stoic island
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@plucky oar >:(

wanton cliff
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why not noctua fans? great brand, great fans, no?

plucky oar
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for his purpose no

stoic island
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It's a waste of money for that case, yea, because fans can't get air from sucking on a metal panel

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But the fans in general are great

plucky oar
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yes

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i agree that they are good

wanton cliff
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I also want to say that what I said was more or less a joke, it is also going to be used for light gaming (hence a 1660 super and 3600X)

storm sky
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so like whats up with my build huh

wanton cliff
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3600X because it was somehow cheaper than a normal 3600

plucky oar
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i would say no x570 board save some money

stoic island
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@wanton cliff then a 3600+2060 super, MX330-G as the case

plucky oar
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i know

stoic island
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3600 is back down to 200$ afaik

severe axle
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yeah its $202 now

stoic island
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Meant to type 2060

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But close nuff

wanton cliff
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@plucky oar Im going to use the X570 for my build and give him my current B450

stoic island
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There's a lot of money you can save on that list

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A ton

little osprey
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is there really any difference between the 3600 and the 3600x?

wanton cliff
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@stoic island 3600X was cheaper than 3600

plucky oar
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oh finally i can fix the build for my friend the ryzen cpu dropped in price again

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clock speeds

versed rock
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Why use X570?

severe axle
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better cooler, slightly higher clock speed

versed rock
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B550 is cheaper and just as good.

wanton cliff
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more future proof

stoic island
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Focus on was

severe axle
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and uses 30 more w

stoic island
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Uhhh

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It's not more future proof

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@severe axle just tdp, not real power draw

versed rock
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More future proof than the literal same set of CPUs that the B550 can use.

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No.

stoic island
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@wanton cliff 3600x is a slightly higher binned 3600

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That's it

plucky oar
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i mean i would understand if you were talking about a b450 but no a b550

stoic island
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B550 is the same future proofing as x570

plucky oar
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yes

stoic island
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Both gets pcie 4.0 in M.2_1 and PCIE x16

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Both gets Zen 3 suppoet

wanton cliff
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prices of parts are all over the place right now, an X570 was cheaper than a B550 (both from Asus)

versed rock
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Aka, not that much further into the Future.

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AM4 socket has had its last CPU.

stoic island
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@wanton cliff haha find me a x570 board cheaper than say a B550m HDV

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Do it

versed rock
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Ryzen 5000 is likely the last CPU set that will run on AM4

stoic island
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Just because one board is expensive doesn't mean it's all more expensive

versed rock
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So, either AM4+ or AM5 will be the next socket.

stoic island
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It's supposed to be according to AMD

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Should be going AM5 next

wanton cliff
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@stoic island PcPartPicker didnt show me that mobo when I was looking for mobos

stoic island
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What

versed rock
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Because AMD only said that they would support AM4 through 2020

wanton cliff
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I will definetly choose that one

little osprey
stoic island
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Lmao

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No don't choose that one

little osprey
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so should i sacrifice getting a 3600 instead of a 3600x because of price?

stoic island
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It was an example

plucky oar
stoic island
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It's a 80$ board

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You get what you pay for

versed rock
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MP34

wanton cliff
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so should I use X570 or B550?

versed rock
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B550

stoic island
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@plucky oar again, trash ssd, get like a P1 at least

wanton cliff
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yall are giving mixed opinions

stoic island
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@wanton cliff
B550

versed rock
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X570 has no major use for normal people

little osprey
plucky oar
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i know i need the advice on the ssd

versed rock
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MP34...

plucky oar
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and are there any cheaper

stoic island
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...

little osprey
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unless u wanna buy b550 DS3h lol

whole harbor
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@stoic island are 3100 and 2070 bottleneck high?

versed rock
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Yes.

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3300X at least

little osprey
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what is the 3100 equivalent again

plucky oar
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i would gamble and say yes

stoic island
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@plucky oar remember, you get what you pay for when you go lower

wanton cliff
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so just to be clear: there is literally no difference between B550 and X570 at the same price point?

stoic island
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@whole harbor screw bottlenecking, it works

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@wanton cliff no difference for the average person

versed rock
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Not 100% true

plucky oar
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i know but i am over budget

stoic island
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No need to confuse you further

wanton cliff
#

for the average person?

versed rock
#

The average person will never notice.

stoic island
#

@plucky oar gib list in dm

wanton cliff
#

i want the info

whole harbor
#

why yall always talk abt bottlenecking being a sad term? @stoic island

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

got it

#

isnt X570 more supported tho?

little osprey
#

No

versed rock
#

Basically, X570 boards will typically have better VRMs and more Overclocking features, that's it.

wanton cliff
#

thats what I want to pay for

little osprey
#

b550 and x570 are the last gen for AM4 boards

versed rock
#

Why?

wanton cliff
#

thank you for the info

versed rock
#

B550 is still more than adequate.

#

High end B550 boards are basically X570 boards.

little osprey
#

you literally have to have the stuff in this video i will post now for the better VRMs and overclocking to matter

versed rock
#

And Low end B550 can still support basically all Ryzen 3000 and Ryzen 5000

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

what case should I use around $60-70 if not an H510?

versed rock
#

MX330

little osprey
#

P400

versed rock
#

P400 non-A suxks

little osprey
#

just buy the replacement front panel part later

versed rock
#

MX330 is a good cheap case.

inland parrot
#

Does having max settings in a game count as overclocking

versed rock
#

No....

#

Overclocking has no relationship with game settings...

little osprey
#

lmfao

#

^going above the normal freq

#

No

#

changing it in general is

wanton cliff
#

who said that noctua fans was a waste of money?

little osprey
#

unless you're underclocking and undervolting like an idiot

#

people do that?

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

oh?

little osprey
#

the only time i see it happen is when stuff crashes without doing it atom

versed rock
#

They are good, but overpriced

wanton cliff
#

Im told that noctua has the best fans, best airflow, etc?

versed rock
#

And there's no need for them in most situations

stoic island
#

Yes

#

But save money

versed rock
#

No, there's better fans than Noctua.

little osprey
#

i mean right now they're half off on amazon

#

20$ each

versed rock
#

Gentle Typhoons are better than Noctua

stoic island
#

@versed rock nothing better for price to perf afaik

#

Not price

wanton cliff
#

13.90 on amazon actually

stoic island
#

Meant noise

versed rock
#

Look at Gentle Typhoons.

little osprey
#

19.95

wanton cliff
#

Noctua P12 redux-1700 PWM 70.75 CFM 120 mm Fan

stoic island
#

@versed rock btw gentle typhoon gets beaten by Noctua

wanton cliff
#

13.90

stoic island
#

I saw an noise to perf chart on em before

versed rock
#

They never have been beaten by Noctua.

stoic island
#

Hm?

#

Nf-a12x25

little osprey
#

you're looking at the worse fan

stoic island
#

I can go find my source if you want

versed rock
#

I've seen performance on them from a guy that does fan testing for a living.

wanton cliff
#

aww crap

#

well thanks

stoic island
#

Gib

little osprey
#

it has higher RPM but its by like 200 and its quite a bit louder

versed rock
#

I can't actually find it now. The video is fairly old though

stoic island
#

I'll go find my random source then

versed rock
#

And the guy who did the videos is not doing YouTube anymore.

storm sky
#

Can someone give me some help with a build?

versed rock
#

Realistically, you don't NEED high end fans to get a quiet and cool system.

wanton cliff
hardy oyster
#

Would anyone be kind enough to recommend me parts for a $700-$800 dollar build?

versed rock
#

You just need a well vented front panel and enough fans to get good airflow.

little osprey
#

p400a digital good?

#

Yes

versed rock
#

That is an AMAZING case.

#

There's very few cases that beat it.

stoic island
versed rock
#

In terms of Price to Performance and Airflow.

wanton cliff
#

does anyone know how good Razer's new ATX case is?

stoic island
#

Meh, I hate it for not supporting D15

versed rock
#

It's crap

#

Razers case is crap

little osprey
#

D15 is overpriced

stoic island
#

TD500 mesh is still my go to because it supports 165mm cpu coolers

versed rock
#

Not worth any penny

stoic island
#

@little osprey not just d15

#

all the big air coolers are >155mm

#

NH-U12a

little osprey
#

might as well buy a 100$ h100i with 2 40$ fans lol

versed rock
#

You don't need a D15 when you have so much sheer airflow.

stoic island
#

NH-D15

#

NH-D15s

#

DRP4

#

CNPS20x

#

the crappy A500

#

etc

versed rock
#

Scythe Mugen 5 is the Goat cooler for the P400A

inland parrot
#

Is there a way to change back to nornal after you overclock or want to not overclock anymore

stoic island
#

yea mugen 5 rev b is good

#

but I like the option for u12a

versed rock
#

Yes...

stoic island
#

reset cmos

#

if it was bios settings

versed rock
#

The U12A is a worse Mugen 5 though.

stoic island
#

(or just reset bios)

#

I don't think so

little osprey
#

both will revert after a crash

#

once you get the settings you want

#

you then go to bios

versed rock
storm sky
#

can someone help me do a budgeted build for vr? these are the minumum requirement for ithttps://support.oculus.com/444256562873335/#faq_444256562873335

versed rock
#

Both are basically trading blows.

stoic island
versed rock
#

Never go with vendor minimum requirements.

stoic island
#

Ninja 5 should be at mugen 5 rev b or above for cooling perf

#

too lazy to find more testing

#

either way U12a is great

versed rock
#

VR will always be better when you are above minimum requirements.

stoic island
#

btw

versed rock
#

Because the more FPS you are over the refresh rate of the display, the less stuttery the experience will feel.

stoic island
#

@versed rock I'm saying NH-U12a, the one with 2 NF-A12x25 fans

versed rock
#

Trust me, I own a headset.

little osprey
#

and the less sick you get

stoic island
#

not the NH-U12s

#

U12a is the d15 level performance cooler

little osprey
#

spend atleast 3x what you spent on a VR headset

versed rock
#

Oh, I can't find any U12A testing against the Mugen 5.

storm sky
#

Yeah I know but This is going to be a xman presant for my sister and she really doesnt game much

stoic island
#

If we can agree Ninja 5 is at or above Mugen 5 rev b perf

#

you can look at TPU charts

versed rock
#

Then get her a Quest?

storm sky
stoic island
#

Yea just get a quest without link

#

Use the onboard

storm sky
#

she already has one

versed rock
#

Then why does she need a PC?

#

If you already have a Quest, you basically have all you need.

#

Like, I'm all for PCVR, but the Quest 2 standalone is still an amazing experience.

wanton cliff
#

cant play steamvr with a quest

versed rock
#

You can.

storm sky
#

yeah you can

versed rock
#

You 100000% can

wanton cliff
#

not without a PC and link cable

versed rock
#

Well no shirt sherlock.

storm sky
#

ok yes but damnit im itching to build a pc ok

whole harbor
versed rock
#

And, you don't NEED a Link Cable.

wanton cliff
#

this is build chat

versed rock
#

You rip all your parts out and try to dry them and don't Liquid Cool again.

#

Because Liquid Cooling is stupid.

little osprey
#

It's not.

#

just Idiots shouldn't liquid cool

wanton cliff
#

RMA??

versed rock
#

That's your own dumb fault

little osprey
#

buy an AIO and put the heatsink back on the gpu

storm sky
#

oof lol

little osprey
#

im not lmao

#

its not bad

versed rock
#

It is.

little osprey
#

its far better than air and AIOs if done right

#

like what

versed rock
#

This is a first hand account of why Liquid Cooling is bad.

still roostBOT
#
Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

storm sky
#

I wanted to have a liquid cooler but i dont need it

versed rock
#

Your crap can just break

little osprey
#

because its somebody who doesn't know much about PCs?

#

they did it wrong

still roostBOT
#
♨♧ ᗴмΜα ☯💝#7519 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tall bronze
#

discord mods be like:

versed rock
#

Uhhh

#

Dang it.

little osprey
#

lc is good but of course you gotta know how to do it

#

just the fact it leaked o ut of the CPU block shows they did it incredibly wrong

#

thats the hardest place for you make it leak lol

arctic jungle
#

This is a first hand account of why Liquid Cooling is bad.
@versed rock wot

#

where

#

wot ?

#

liquid cooling is amazing

little osprey
#

the person deleted it antago

#

^

#

it was a CPU block leak

arctic jungle
versed rock
#

The guy who broke all his PC parts from a CPU block leak.

foggy hazel
#

@little leaf not any that does not involve a wiped drive

vital scaffold
#

what is better a rvzen 3 3100g or a ryzen 5 2600

arctic jungle
#

which is why you do a leak test

inland parrot
#

Does anyone know a good cpu fan curve for games like destiny 2, warframe, borderlands, and gta 5 at max setting and a good one for gpu for those games too

#

Without overclocking

vital scaffold
#

y

#

ya

little osprey
#

what stock cooler ninja

arctic jungle
#

maximum fan speed if ur cpu or gpu is above 10 degrees

little osprey
#

because you shouldn't need any fan curve pre overclock

#

just stock fan curve is fine

arctic jungle
#

MAXIMUM fan speed after 10 degrees

#

and get noise cancelling headphones

#

works every time

little osprey
#

should i sacrifice getting a 3600 instead of a 3600x cause of price?

inland parrot
#

Lol

little osprey
#

3600x is a 3600

inland parrot
#

Yes

little osprey
#

only buy 3600x if its cheaper

#

legit just a better binned CPU and thats it

#

yesterday it was but now 3600 is cheaper by like 40

formal cosmos
#

What’s a good 650w psu under $90

whole harbor
#

Ik a 600w

#

One

#

80+ bronze

#

cooler master mwe 600w 80+ bronze

formal cosmos
#

I want a 650w psu

little osprey
#

Jaden

#

NO

whole harbor
#

@formal cosmos youll be fine with 600w but ok

little osprey
#

850 watts or higher

#

with a 3070

whole harbor
#

bruh

still roostBOT
#
dulvn#1815 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

whole harbor
#

its a 3070

formal cosmos
#

I’m just scared to use a 600w psu with my 3070

whole harbor
#

Didnt realize

#

sike

#

I no nothing

#

Abt

#

30 series

#

lol

#

so highhhhh

formal cosmos
#

But it only shows 400w used on the list

drifting garnet
#

What is some reccomended nvme ssd's?

formal cosmos
#

I have an extra 200w don’t I?

little osprey
#

that doesn't account for peaks

whole harbor
#

@drifting garnet mp34

little osprey
#

spikes*

drifting garnet
#

Ok, that what I was thinking of thanks

formal cosmos
wanton cliff
#

how is the 970 evo plus or whatever it is called?

whole harbor
#

Its good

#

I think

little osprey
#

850

#

or

#

higher

whole harbor
#

pretty sure it was $150 but bfriday made it $100

little leaf
#

@foggy hazel ok lets go into wiping the drives

formal cosmos
#

THATS TOO EXPENSIVE FOR 850 or higher

little osprey
wanton cliff
#

how is a 1660 super vs a 2060

formal cosmos
foggy hazel
#

i dont have the time today @little leaf, so you will have to ask one of the others

little leaf
#

k

whole harbor
#

@wanton cliff 1660 super better price/performance

little osprey
stoic island
#

that's not

little osprey
#

bruh

wanton cliff
#

bruh agreed

little leaf
#

@ @stoic island wanna help me trouble shoot?

stoic island
#

@formal cosmos 650w amp is good

#

I can try

formal cosmos
#

He said I need a 850w psu or higher for a 3070

little osprey
#

its preferable yeah

formal cosmos
stoic island
#

I said it's good

#

smh

formal cosmos
#

Oh I’m dumb

wanton cliff
little leaf
#

f

#

Hey I need some help on a pc I recently built
Its a 9900k with no gpu yet
a phantomgaming 4 ac
Nameless KingToday at 9:02 AM

pcpartpicker.com/list/DKRPxcToday at 9:02 AM
16 gigs of trident z 3200 cl16
and the ssd is a Adata sx6000pnp
whats happening is I installed windows a few days ago and today I booted to a screen of reinsert proper boot device, but when I opened bios nothing was there
besides the ssd
I tried to reinstall windows but the ssd doesn't pop up as an option

stoic island
#

god damn windows being weird

#

hm

whole harbor
#

Glizzzzzy

little osprey
#

should i install windows onto my nvme and then initialise my hdd?

stoic island
#

anyways

#

@little leaf can you try to wipe the disk from bios?

little leaf
#

I can try but last I checked it didn't work

stoic island
#

hm

wanton cliff
#

whats so good about the Team MP34 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

#

it is 1tb but $100 less than other ssds

little osprey
#

best bang for buck

#

SN750 equivalent

wanton cliff
#

I have no idea what SSDs are good and arent

little osprey
#

think of it like this

#

cool name = good

#

but yeah just go by specs

#

and benchmarks

wanton cliff
#

So is 970 Evo + any gud?

little osprey
#

Overpriced

little leaf
#

no

wanton cliff
#

$50 off right now for 1tb version

vital warren
#

good if you have an extra kidney

little leaf
#

mp34 good

little osprey
#

how much is it rn? ben

wanton cliff
#

150 on newegg

little leaf
#

no

#

mp34 better

little osprey
#

its 20$ less

#

for 150 samsung

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

its the Plus?

#

yeah

wanton cliff
#

that is overpriced?

little osprey
#

buy that crap

#

no

#

you should of said plus lol

wanton cliff
#

i did

#

lmao

little osprey
#

you said evo

wanton cliff
little osprey
#

bruh

#

thats not

#

bruh

wanton cliff
#

is plus and + not the same thing?

little osprey
#

do u understand how many people come here speaking nonsense and we have to try and read it?

weary stirrup
#

Can someone help me out with a budjet bulid

#

??

little leaf
#

@stoic island

little osprey
#

just type plus l ike how it iss in the name

summer pasture
#

@weary stirrup What Is Your Budget

little osprey
#

mp34 for 20$ less is not better than the 970 plus lol

stoic island
#

hm?

#

Did it work?

little leaf
#

any Ideas to wipe the ssd

weary stirrup
#

@summer pasture probably around 600 with the screen and software I already have a gaming keyboard and mouse

stoic island
#

you could try getting another drive and get windows lel

#

but if bios doesn't work

#

I dunno

little osprey
#

im c onfused now

#

nvm

summer pasture
#

Ok Ill make a list

weary stirrup
#

I want it to be like the a good one that I can play many different good games

little osprey
#

im gonna go look at best buy

#

i got confused

weary stirrup
#

@uncut pelican yes

versed maple
#

the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh is a good airflow case ?

weary stirrup
#

@summer pasture @uncut pelican since rn its about to be chromes I am going to take the chance and maybe see if I can get cheaper then cheaper

#

@uncut pelican @summer pasture budjet around 500-600 with the screen and software

#

What’s the hardware needed

#

Ohh and case forgot about that

#

Don’t I need a software also??

#

Wym only the is

#

Os

#

Which is Windows

#

That’s why windows software

wanton cliff
#

windows is free now isnt it?

versed maple
#

the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh is a good airflow case ?

stoic island
#

nah

#

technically free

#

don't have to activate >:D

#

@versed maple yea lancool ii mesh is great

weary stirrup
#

On eBay I believe it’s like 30 bucks instead of 160

#

I think

stoic island
#

5$

weary stirrup
#

Y

stoic island
#

why not phil

wanton cliff
#

and even if you do want to activate, a pro license is like $40 if you know where to look

stoic island
#

it's 5 bucks on ebay :P

wanton cliff
#

software and key trading subreddits

stoic island
#

:P

quasi snow
#

The only cons of not activating are no defender and the watermark right?

stoic island
#

basically

wanton cliff
#

some cosmetic stuff noone cares about

weary stirrup
#

What’s about a browser

wanton cliff
#

free

#

but use brave

#

wtf no

#

brave

#

or firefox

#

literally anything except chrome and edge

weary stirrup
#

What about my parts list

#

V

wanton cliff
#

RAM usage isnt an opinion

weary stirrup
#

Thanks

quasi snow
#

ram usage isn't an opinion but whether or not it's worth it for the browser is an opinion

weary stirrup
#

I have selling a ps4 bout I think I am goin to go with a pc because i can do more with it

#

A friend**

wanton cliff
#

You should be able to emulate most PS4 stuff now anyways i think

summer pasture
wanton cliff
#

I would splurge the extra $50 to get a 1tb SSD

#

but thats just me

dense basalt
#

is my pc build ok?

#

i will get a cheaper 2060

#

tbh

summer pasture
#

Yeah but he also said he wanted to include a monitor in his 600 and i couldnt even do that

cursive magnet
#

@dense basalt For that price you can get a 5700xt

dense basalt
#

man i will get a 2060 for like 350

wanton cliff
#

Can confirm, 5700XT is good card

summer pasture
#

@dense basalt you can do a far better build for 1k

dense basalt
#

i picked an expensive gpu

wanton cliff
#

what is that PSU rated at?

vital warren
#

for 1k just get a 3070

#

ez

dense basalt
#

i will get a 2060 for 350

cursive magnet
#

Lol, expensive.....

vital warren
#

dont

#

not worth for 350

cursive magnet
#

I got 3070 for 700

wanton cliff
#

what is that PSU rated at?

dense basalt
#

then what gpu should i get for cheap?

summer pasture
#

5700xt or 3070 if you can

dense basalt
#

like less then 350

cursive magnet
#

Intel on board

vital warren
#

dumi what's your budget?

dense basalt
#

i said for cheap

latent condor
#

is there a way to digitally check my psu

dense basalt
#

bruh

latent condor
#

or no

summer pasture
#

Maybe 1660 ti

dense basalt
#

like 800

#

$

summer pasture
#

For your build?

vital warren
#

800 do a 2060 + 3100 is what comes to mind, but don't pay 350 for a 2060

#

or a 5600xt

dense basalt
#

ok

#

i will find a cheap one

summer pasture
#

How Much Are You Planning To Spend

latent condor
#

i have a i5 and a 1650 ti is there something i sjould upgrade

dense basalt
#

800$ for the build

summer pasture
#

@latent condor Only If You Are Noticing Things You Dont Like

wanton cliff
latent condor
#

10400f

summer pasture
#

In an 80o dollar build I would get 1660 super and ryzen 5 5600

wanton cliff
#

how much is the 5600?

latent condor
#

im not lagging so ill just wait

summer pasture
#

Probably around 200-250

vital warren
#

5600 will be like 220

wanton cliff
#

5600X is 300 on newegg rn

#

not that you can buy one

summer pasture
#

Not x

wanton cliff
#

I know not X but the X is 300

summer pasture
#

Yeah

vital warren
#

but if you're gaming put a majority of money to gpu

wanton cliff
#

is there anything that ISNT out of stock right now?

weary stirrup
#

@uncut pelican @summer pasture are those setups you gave me good enough to make play good games??

wanton cliff
#

@weary stirrup they are

summer pasture
#

I know mine is and i didnt see his

wanton cliff
#

whoever had the 570 might be cutting some modern games close in mid settings close but otherwise they are fine

summer pasture
#

Yeah, i have the 570 and it is a bit close

wanton cliff
#

forgot a word but the thought still stands

summer pasture
#

Would 1050 ti be better?

vital warren
#

never get a 1050ti ew

storm sky
#

how is this build for budget?

summer pasture
#

Very similar to the one i linked a few minutes ago and pretty good

storm sky
#

any changes you might do to it?

summer pasture
#

But instead of 8gb 570 i think get 8gb 580 similar price

storm sky
#

that one i found for $144 on new egg

summer pasture
#

@storm sky the best price i see for 580 8gb is around $200 so the descision is yours

storm sky
#

this build will run vr games like phasmophobia and arizona sunshine

#

and twd s&s

summer pasture
#

Yeah but anything the 570 can do the 580 can do better, trust me I have a 570 it isnt too great

#

But mine is only 4 gb

vital warren
#

if you're going 570/580 just get one used

summer pasture
#

Yeah that is probably a good idea

#

In a few weeks my 570 might be for sale

storm sky
#

getting a new gpu?

summer pasture
#

Hopefully

whole harbor
#

just get a used 1660 super

#

u prob can get it for a good price

hearty oracle
#

hello all! just a quick question, im starting to looking into a new build. what % of my build should go to the motherboard?

whole harbor
#

depends

#

Send me pcpp

#

And whats ur budget

#

and what currency

vital warren
#

example if you have a 1k budget i'd only put 100 or a little over into mobo

whole harbor
#

prob 10% mb

#

10-20% cpu

#

30% gpu

little osprey
#

Just bought all the parts for my first build!

whole harbor
#

Under 10% psu

#

@little osprey dtop

#

Stop

vital warren
#

nice

whole harbor
#

buy them on bfriday

hearty oracle
#

ok about what i was thinking, im trying to stay around 500-750 for this build (no case needed, and reusing some from current builds)

whole harbor
#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

@whole harbor i already got them and most of the things were already at a low price than what they have been for awhile

whole harbor
#

ok

little osprey
whole harbor
#

Get the 3600x

#

Its cheaper rn

little osprey
#

oh i did

#

i forgot to update the list

latent condor
#

is a i5 10400f and 1650 ti decent combo

little osprey
#

5700xt is pretty cheap rn thats why i got it. couldnt bother waiting for a 3070/3060 knowing the odds of me getting one is really low

hardy oyster
modern pagoda
#

u should change the ram to faster speeds especially on 2nd gen ryzen

hardy oyster
#

He’s only got 500$ I told him id pay the extra. What would you recommend for the ram then?

desert elbow
#

@latent condor 1650ti? Isn’t that only in laptops

hardy oyster
#

🤷‍♂️

night iron
#

Nice keyboard and mouse setup @rustic sandal

modern pagoda
tiny oriole
#

@hardy oyster you could go used if your friend is fine with it

#

Could find a better deal than that too

hardy oyster
#

@modern pagoda thanks for that 🙏.

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@tiny oriole I’ll definitely check into that thanks for the advice