#building-and-recc-chat

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formal cosmos
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Guys

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I know it’s bad

eager dawn
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would it be fine with 750 power

formal cosmos
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He needs a pc list for under $1000

eager dawn
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go air cooling to get a better budget

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and maybe get more storage

spark ibex
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drop the nzxt kraken, switch to an air cooler

eager dawn
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but its a decent build for sure

spark ibex
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add case fans, 3 or 4 of them

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lemme edit it

formal cosmos
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Switch the list

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For him

sullen spoke
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if its on a budget id ditch the aio, change out the ram for some 3600mhzcl16 or if thats too much 3600cl18

vital warren
stoic island
little osprey
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Bookmarked

spark ibex
vital warren
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^no

spark ibex
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^over 1k and you have no case fans

arctic jungle
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??

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@spark ibex that's not a hot build

spark ibex
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ik

arctic jungle
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you do realize you can't control all ur rgb software together?

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those fans aren't icue

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I suggest making the rest of ur build aurasync

spark ibex
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lemme switch it up

vital warren
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its almost like the case i put comes with fans

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but you put a 5500xt in a 1k build...

spark ibex
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noticed the cpu was too expensive

vapid igloo
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When building a gaming pc, do you need to add an HDD to it, or can it just use an SSD?

vital warren
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it can use just an ssd

pseudo forge
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With the 3080 and 6800xt being neck and neck would yall say get whatever you can

stiff gust
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Yep only difference is the speed

pseudo forge
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Because of how bad stock is

stiff gust
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Referring to the precious question

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I would say get whatever you can, unless you plan on playing RTX games a lot

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The few that support it

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Bc ray tracing on AMD is eh

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Even streaming wise the nvenc is nice but not the biggest deal when stock is non existent

pseudo forge
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Idk about yall but in uk amd launch was worse than nvidia

rough bough
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is ryzen 7 2700x rx 580 decent?

pseudo forge
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Quick question

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Any good alternatives to Corsair LL120 fans?

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Yeah rgb needed 😂

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Got a pc o11 case so it’s kinda made for RGB

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Also need a good aio cooler

jagged ember
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That's gonna need a lot of fan

pseudo forge
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I’m going for 6-9

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For the cooler about $180

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Ryzen 5 5600x

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Looks good

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Ima wait till Black Friday see what deals I can get

little osprey
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when's black friday ?

pseudo forge
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After I got all the parts so far I’ve got the ram cpu nvme motherboard

little osprey
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people keep talking bout it i would say in a week or two

pseudo forge
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Whenever I can pick up a new gpu ima start building

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27th is Black Friday

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3080/6800xt

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One of them if I can’t get them ima just wait

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This is my first ever build

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Switching from console

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How was the building process

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I’m kinda nervous

little osprey
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you shouldn't be worried about your first build

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all these youtube videos are super good and to be honest it's a pretty straight forward job

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and if you're confused there are numerous discord servers 🙂

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i built my first system on my own only using the internet and discord

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and it's been like a year and haven't got a single issue

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that's for sure 🙂

pseudo forge
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I’m just nervous about installing 9 fans into my system

little osprey
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aha

pseudo forge
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Cable management looks like that he hardest part

little osprey
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fans can be kinda annoying

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but if you have the right splitters and all that stuff it isn't too hard 🙂

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i've got 6 fans in my system

pseudo forge
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I’m getting a commander pro hopefully that’ll make the job easier

surreal rain
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is the i5 10400 good for streaming?

versed rock
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Intel is just flat bad in general.

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Like, across the board.

sullen spoke
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intol peepoSadSip

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for single pc streaming might want to use nvenc

stiff gust
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The 10400 is a good deal for streaming if paired with a 2000-3000 series

versed rock
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Graison no.

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The 10400 has one job, to be thrown in the garbage

stiff gust
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The ryzen 5 is super expensive in some areas of the world compared to the 10400

versed rock
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Doesn't matter, even if it's 50% more expensive, you are still getting a 100% better CPU.

stiff gust
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That’s just false

versed rock
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Because A. You aren't supporting Intel's anti-consumer business practices and B. You are buying a product that you can then upgrade later on down the line.

stiff gust
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If you can get it for 40$ or more off than a 3600 I wholeheartedly reccomend it

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As a 3600 user

versed rock
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And I strongly suggest anyone to NOT heed that word due to the fact that Intel is a bunch of scumbags who can't make a good CPU if the designs for a new architecture slapped them in the face.

surreal rain
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idk i just want a build that get over 150 fps in warzone

still roostBOT
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Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

surreal rain
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i hope they fix the season 6 fps issue

versed rock
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Argh.

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Good luck

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Warzone is a bad game anyways.

surreal rain
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in general or optimization?

versed rock
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Both.

surreal rain
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lol

versed rock
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CoD is just a repeat cycle game. Every game since Black Ops 2 is just the same game over again with a new coat of paint.

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If you want a good Battle Royale, play Apex Legends or PUBG

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If you want a solid shooter in general, play Destiny 2, Rainbow 6 Siege, or CS:GO

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Or Titanfall 2

surreal rain
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I play and like warzone but i used to get 70 fps on my laptop and now i get 40 fps

hazy rune
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Destiny 2 became pay to win, I wouldn’t play that either

versed rock
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Wat

surreal rain
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which sucks as you would imagine

versed rock
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Pay to Win? Are you off your rocker?

hazy rune
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You have to purchase the dlc and the battle passes, yes

versed rock
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And? That isn't Pay To Win.

hazy rune
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Free to lose then? Lmao

versed rock
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The definition of Pay To Win is getting a strict numerical advantage over someone who isn't paying for the game.

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You are not forced to buy the Season Pass or DLC.

rough bough
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is ryzen 5 3600x better then ryzen 7 2700x?

versed rock
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A Free to Play player is 100% capable of absolutely destroying a person who has all of the DLC and the current Season Pass.

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I wouldn't buy a 3600X

rough bough
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y

versed rock
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If you are on a budget, get the 3600

hazy rune
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In most games modes, yes

surreal rain
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can anoyne link me a pc build for 150 fps+ warzone?

versed rock
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Nameless, you would have to spend an exorbiant amount of money for that to work.

surreal rain
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...

versed rock
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Like, 5800X, 16GB of super fast RAM, and a RTX 3080

surreal rain
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1080p competitive settings

hazy rune
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Depends on his resolution

versed rock
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Even at 1080p

surreal rain
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1280x1024

hazy rune
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Ew 4:3

versed rock
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That's not a resolution that any respectable human being would use.

surreal rain
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i play cs go and many other use such res

versed rock
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Why tf do you play CS:GO in 4:3

surreal rain
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give you a advantage

versed rock
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No it doesn't...

surreal rain
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idk about looks i care about gampley

versed rock
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If anything you lose an advantage.

surreal rain
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yeah it does more fps and wider player models

versed rock
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🤦

hazy rune
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I don’t think you need a 3080 to play war zone at 1080p

versed rock
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One: CS:GO already is so optimized, framerate basically doesn't matter.

hazy rune
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Or a 5800x

surreal rain
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even pros use 4;3 res

versed rock
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Two: Wider player models doesn't change the actual hitbox of the player model

surreal rain
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umm yeah?

versed rock
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Three: Pros are starting to shift away from 4:3 due to the loss of peripheral vision

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16:9 is a superior option since your vision actually processes things in your peripheral vision FASTER than in your main vision.

surreal rain
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idk everybody uses what they like

versed rock
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And, plenty of my friends have played in 4:3, and they have died from shots that I was able to re-frag because I was playing 16:9 and could actually see the enemy that killed them.

surreal rain
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... idk mate you do you

versed rock
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I'm just providing factual data for your objectively inferior decision to use 4:3

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

surreal rain
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inferior?

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maybe in your eyes

versed rock
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Maybe in the eyes of every sensible human being who realizes how monitor resolutions work.

surreal rain
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but i get more kills with 4;3 than with 16;9

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i played alot with 16;9

versed rock
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The only reason why 4:3 vs 16:9 is an argument is because people think that the wider player models on 4:3 actually shifts the hitbox. It doesn't, it just makes things harder to see in your peripheral vision.

surreal rain
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whatever

grim raptor
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what is a logic price for rtx 3070?

surreal rain
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500

grim raptor
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....cant find

surreal rain
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well wait

versed rock
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Yeah, you won't find a 3070 for 500 dollars right now.

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They all got scalped by botters and only like, 10 legitimate people got them.

grim raptor
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what are all of these

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then

surreal rain
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lmao not even 300 hrs in cs go and you're telling me that 4;3 sucks

versed rock
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You think that hours in a single game with this debate actually matters?

surreal rain
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somewhat

versed rock
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The debate of 16:9 vs 4:3 is in literally every competitive shooter EXCEPT Overwatch

surreal rain
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people still pay overwatch?

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play*

versed rock
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Because Blizzard said "Yeah, nah we gonna nip this in the bud and make 16:9 the only aspect ratio"

grim raptor
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msi ventus 2x oc is it in a good price right?

versed rock
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No.

sullen spoke
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sometimes peepoSadSip

grim raptor
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why @versed rock

versed rock
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The Ventus x2 is a 💩 card

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Don't buy it.

sullen spoke
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ow on 4:3 is weird tho

surreal rain
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yeah i started using in 1 year ago

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i'm fine with people playing with which res they want

versed rock
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I have nearly 500 hours in Siege, and 16:9 has been proven to be the best aspect ratio due to how the human peripheral vision works.

sullen spoke
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the only game i sometimes play 4:3 is osu

surreal rain
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osu?

versed rock
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Same holds true for CS:GO because of the same fact.

surreal rain
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ok skip

versed rock
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Not for that price.

surreal rain
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but i have 2700 hrs in cs go and playing since 2016

cursive magnet
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@grim raptor It is a great cpu, but depends on what you use it for

grim raptor
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okey guys

versed rock
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If all you are doing is gaming, wait for the 5600X to get back in stock.

grim raptor
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no programming edit and gamming

surreal rain
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yeah 5600x rocks from what i've seen

grim raptor
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and 3 screens on play

versed rock
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Programming you could do on literally anything.

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You could program on a Raspberry Pi for god's sake...

grim raptor
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true

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but not ai

versed rock
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Well, if you want to do AI shiz, then you will want an RTX card.

grim raptor
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rtx 3070

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i am waiting for this card

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or titan

versed rock
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I would go with a 5600X and a RTX 3080 TBH

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There will be no Titan for this generation

pseudo forge
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Would a msi b550 tomahawk work with a 5600x?

sullen spoke
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3090 titan

versed rock
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The RTX 3090 is the "titan" of this generation

grim raptor
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@pseudo forge yeah

surreal rain
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rtx 3090 is too good

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but i would go for a rx 6900 xt

pseudo forge
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Just need to do a bios update right? @grim raptor

versed rock
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I don't even think you need a BIOS update, but you might.

sullen spoke
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depends what you doing nameless

grim raptor
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@versed rock true

surreal rain
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for gaming yeah rx 6900 xt

pseudo forge
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How would I know if I need a update or not

surreal rain
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idk otherwise

versed rock
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If you are doing AI based programming, AMD has literally no Tensor Cores.

grim raptor
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@pseudo forge i dont think you will need bios update

stiff gust
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3090 I’d go for if u want top end and ray tracing

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Unless Radeon get their crap together

versed rock
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So, Nvidia is currently the best solution for enhanced AI programming and training.

real flicker
versed rock
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wtf is this build?

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This entire thing needs to be scrapped.

surreal rain
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the motherboard is way expensive

grim raptor
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do you know when the 3070 will be back?

versed rock
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It's a whole lot of weird nonsense things slapped together.

surreal rain
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for the ryzen 5 2600g

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3400g

pseudo forge
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Lol that motherboard won’t work will it?

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With a ryzen

stiff gust
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Decent build, I’d try to get a 2600 as they’re similar price

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Or a 10400f

sullen spoke
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rude Distraught

versed rock
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@real flicker How much money are you going to spend on this PC?

stiff gust
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Rather than a 3400g

real flicker
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lots of thing out of stock atm

stiff gust
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As you have a dedicated gpu

real flicker
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1000

versed rock
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Just tell me how much money you are going to spend.

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Ok.

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Give me like, 3 minutes.

real flicker
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aint that bad is it ahah

grim raptor
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why the gpu is so hard to find

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come on

sullen spoke
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but ye i wouldnt get a ryzen g chip if you are getting a dgpu as well. also the m.2 should be changed

real flicker
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the storage yeah ill give you isnt ideal

grim raptor
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it is my last part of my build hate ittt

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i am waiting for a fff gpu

surreal rain
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i found a 3070 on a site for 650 euro

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hmm

native plover
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I just got my windows boot thing on my flash drive now

grim raptor
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@surreal rain too much for 3070

native plover
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i did it on a different laptop

surreal rain
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550 pardon

pseudo forge
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I just need a 3080 already

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Last part I need for my build

versed rock
surreal rain
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fricking scalpers i hope they grow ball on their feet and can only be allowed to drive flintstone type cars

versed rock
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Fixed

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Just barely scraped below that 1000 budget.

pseudo forge
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That’s a solid build @versed rock

versed rock
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I think the SSD can be a bit cheaper

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I can't remember which SSD is cheaper than the MP34 in Europe

pseudo forge
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Might wanna try waiting till Black Friday @real flicker

surreal rain
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and if you only want to play games go for a rx 5700 xt

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same performance as a 2070 super

versed rock
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Ehhhhh, I would say no.

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The 5700XT is a nice card, but... DLSS is pretty dang good

surreal rain
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100 $ for 10 fps ?

sullen spoke
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black friday deals aren’t deal breaking most of the time in the pc space, maybe if you went in store it would be a bit better

versed rock
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Yeah, you might get a deal on an SSD or something

sullen spoke
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ye

pseudo forge
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Any deals on fans?

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That’s what I’m hoping for lol

versed rock
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Likely no.

crude pivot
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what's with so much stuff being sold out it's pitiful

grim raptor
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@crude pivot yeah

surreal rain
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currently there are no 5600x on amazon.de 😦

crude pivot
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it's like going to a candy store and all they have is the half price suckers

grim raptor
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Does anyone know when the 3070 will be on market?

pseudo forge
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Why are PSU’s so expensive rn?

pulsar citrus
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guys im trying to buy GTX 1060 super
which one is better?

foggy hazel
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@surreal rain how about geizhals?

grim raptor
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your cooler and PSU should be goood so maybe expensive mate its very important (my opinion)

surreal rain
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geizhals?

foggy hazel
surreal rain
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does it ship only in Germany?

foggy hazel
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no idea

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i am not german :)

surreal rain
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same

foggy hazel
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as i understand it, its an aggregator of sites

surreal rain
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aggregator?

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hold on lemme google it

foggy hazel
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just look, it will make sense :)

surreal rain
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446 euro

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hmm

foggy hazel
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not for the price

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but the list of vendors

surreal rain
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what the

foggy hazel
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it aggregates the vendors

surreal rain
foggy hazel
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as in, its collects the prices and you can look

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not saying its perfect or anything

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i just know that it exist as a site

surreal rain
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yeah perfect things do not exist

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my budget for a setup is around 1500 euro

hoary cloak
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I’m doing my first ever build rn and Idk where the cables plug in my mobo

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Help?

foggy hazel
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@hoary cloak mainboard manual :)

hoary cloak
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Ohhh

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Yeah that’s prolly work

versed rock
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You look at it?

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It's super simple.

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There's only 1 place the 24pin can go.

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Start there.

foggy hazel
versed rock
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There's only 1 place the CPU 8 Pin can go also (Or 4 pin depending on your motherboard)

hoary cloak
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Ok

foggy hazel
versed rock
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Also don't get a CPU 8-pin confused with a PCIe 8 pin

foggy hazel
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that bit matters for the result you get @surreal rain

versed rock
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Honestly, I'm kinda surprised that the PCIe standard adopted 8 pin connectors like the CPU 5v line.

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It's a tiny bit confusing.

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Maybe that's why Nvidia made the 12 pin connector?

surreal rain
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cheapest 3070 rn is 600 euro not bad

foggy hazel
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the EPS has different pin shapes @versed rock

versed rock
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It does, but if you have enough brute force, you can force an EPS 8 pin into a PCIe 8 pin or vise versa.

foggy hazel
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yes, but that is true for everything in a pc

versed rock
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I wish I had the money for my upgrade...

hoary cloak
versed rock
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That's EPS it's in the top corner of your motherboard.

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It's for the CPU

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Some motherboards only have a 4 Pin EPS connector, that connector should split into 2 4 Pin connections.

hoary cloak
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Too many left right

foggy hazel
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that one does split

hoary cloak
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Top left *

versed rock
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Yeah, should be Top Left

foggy hazel
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check your manual @hoary cloak

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it IS in there

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and you are going to need the manual later for other connectors

versed rock
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Or you can just look it up on Youtube how to build a PC.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hazy rune
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Manuals are better

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All PCs are different

gleaming quartz
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i mean its pretty trivial once you have the basics down

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true

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but even then its all relatively the same

hazy rune
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True.

gleaming quartz
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except for radiators and stuff

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i have never touched one of those things and i dont feel like trying

surreal rain
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yo does ikea have dark mode?

ruby ledge
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yo whats a good mobo thats am4, microatx and supports 3200+ mhz ram under 90

gleaming quartz
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im pretty sure the mortar motherboards support that

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correct me if im wrong though

surreal rain
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or b450m gigabyte s2h

surreal rain
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is budget friendly one

arctic jungle
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ugh

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micro atx

gleaming quartz
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i was kind of thinking the same thing tbh

arctic jungle
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there's nothing wrong with using m-atx

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it just doesn't look too hot in mid tower and full tower cases.

versed rock
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Oh, I forgot the monitors...

surreal rain
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:))

ruby ledge
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would an atx motherboard fit in my mtx case?

arctic jungle
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mobo is trash

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@versed rock get a gigabyte gaming x

versed rock
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Why?

arctic jungle
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it's so much better

versed rock
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🤔

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You have said nothing to convince me.

arctic jungle
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active vrm cooling, higher quality components, it's not ugly

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also it's x570

versed rock
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X570 is literally pointless my dude.

gleaming quartz
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@ruby ledge probably not

arctic jungle
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-_-

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why would you pay over 150$ for b550?

surreal rain
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yeah not worth arguing with skip

versed rock
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Because it's white.

surreal rain
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racist

versed rock
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Also, it has a USB-C port on the back

surreal rain
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jk

arctic jungle
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u do realize u can paint a mobo white right

versed rock
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F that noise

arctic jungle
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Also, it has a USB-C port on the back
@versed rock so does every other highish end mobo

versed rock
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I ain't potentially bricking my board just to paint it.

arctic jungle
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it doesn't ruin a board

versed rock
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It could though.

arctic jungle
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not really

versed rock
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And I ain't plasti-dipping it either, that's a thermal nightmare.

arctic jungle
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if ur really stupid and splash the cpu dye, yeah, it'll break

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im not gonna waste my time trying to convince u lol

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u do u

versed rock
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I mean, I already beat your argument. A. You don't NEED active VRM cooling in a case like the P400A. B. The VRM is already overbuilt for a 5600X C. It's cheaper than the board I wanted, the Gigabyte Vision D.

surreal rain
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180 $ for a b550m is ......

arctic jungle
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u didn't really beat my arguement....

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and im not arguing

versed rock
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Yeah I did.

arctic jungle
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im trying to make u not have small brain but it's ok no worries brainlet

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it's ok

versed rock
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I'm the one who already has the bigger brain.

arctic jungle
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u do u

surreal rain
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i mean you can't win a argument against a stupid person

arctic jungle
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u keep telling urself that @versed rock

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👍

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I believe in you

versed rock
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Your the one who recommended X570

surreal rain
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XD

versed rock
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For a 5600X of all things.

arctic jungle
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yeah because it's cheaper

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

surreal rain
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Skip just chill ffs

versed rock
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For features I will literally never use.

arctic jungle
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it's cheaper

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

versed rock
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Hell, this thing doesn't even have USB-C!

arctic jungle
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it does actually

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not the gaming x

versed rock
arctic jungle
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a different one

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??

versed rock
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Tell me, where is there a USB-C port on that IO

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Because that's the I/O for the X570 Gaming X

inland parrot
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should i enable amd virtual super resolution

ruby ledge
versed rock
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No, you shouldn't.

arctic jungle
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one sec

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brb

versed rock
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Also Krypt, that's a terrible upgrade path.

ruby ledge
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What should i do?

surreal rain
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just buy a new pc

versed rock
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How much money are you willing to spend on a new PF?

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*PC?

ruby ledge
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I only have $600

surreal rain
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for a pc you could do better

versed rock
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Yes, but how much are you willing to save up and spend?

ruby ledge
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im willing to spend $600

versed rock
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A 450w Bronze unit ain't gonna power an RTX 2060

foggy hazel
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do note @versed rock, that IO labeling is all kinds of wrong :)

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all the blue/white ports are usb 3.2 ports

versed rock
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How is it wrong if it's LITERALLY FROM GIGABYTE

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Oh not this pedantry...

surreal rain
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so what if it's from GIGABYTE

versed rock
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USB 3.2 is a standard that merged with USB 3.0 and USB 3.1

foggy hazel
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calm down Skip, i am not disagreeing with you

versed rock
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They didn't update the labelling because it would confuse the fork out of people.

arctic jungle
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@versed rock j curious, what r u using usb-c for on a desktop?

versed rock
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VR

arctic jungle
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?? which headset

foggy hazel
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vr and chargers

versed rock
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Quest 1

arctic jungle
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k

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I would say get a turing card but those aren't the king anymore lol

snow vale
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I have a question about my build but its kinda a lot to type, does anyone have any free time I could eat up?

versed rock
#

I'm not touching Nvidia with a 100 foot pole anymore.

arctic jungle
#

??

versed rock
#

The 6800XT is a better 3080

arctic jungle
#

not really

versed rock
#

Do I not like losing DLSS? Yeah... DLSS would be really nice.

arctic jungle
#

I mean... it depends on what ur doing

#

amd ray tracing is terrible

#

their version of dlss is nonexistant

olive kraken
#

Idk where this goes but. I am starting to use both my PC and laptop at the same time a lot more frequently. My laptop doesn't have ethernet port. Can I connect USB C to Ethernet adapter or should I stick to 5G wifi

versed rock
#

Only because Nvidia has DLSS to bolster it's Raytracing performance.

olive kraken
#

?

arctic jungle
#

Only because Nvidia has DLSS to bolster it's Raytracing performance.
@versed rock so?

#

in practical, dlss increase your framerate.

versed rock
#

That's like saying my car can go 150mph because I have Nitrous on it.

arctic jungle
#

but that's the facts

#

it CAN do that

versed rock
#

DLSS is a crutch is what I am saying.

arctic jungle
#

so might as well use it :P

olive kraken
#

.5 is greater than 0

#

it isnt 1

arctic jungle
#

if dlss gives you an edge, why wouldn't you use it?

keen cargo
#

Can a 3080 run with a i7

foggy hazel
#

@olive kraken you can use a adapter if you want :)

olive kraken
#

but it isnt 0

versed rock
#

In practice, yes DLSS + Raytracing is higher performance and looks nearly the same.

arctic jungle
#

it looks exactly the same

arctic jungle
#

I can't tell the difference and I daily drive 4k lol

versed rock
#

No, there are differences between DLSS and Native, they are small and slight, but there is a difference.

arctic jungle
#

barely noticable

#

:)

keen cargo
#

I accadently bought a i7 instead of the i9, can I run a 3080TI with a i7?

versed rock
#

Uhh...

arctic jungle
#

3080 ti isn't a thing

versed rock
#

There is no 3080Ti...

keen cargo
#

70

arctic jungle
#

yeah

keen cargo
#

3080*

versed rock
#

Jerids, an i7 isn't even the king anymore.

keen cargo
#

3070****

jagged ember
#

wait wait

versed rock
#

You already lost when Ryzen 5000 came out.

jagged ember
#

so you're asking if a 3070 can run with an i7

#

right?

surreal rain
#

AMD FTW

versed rock
#

Ryzen 5000 slapped Intel senseless

#

And now Intel is panik trying to release Rocket Lake

keen cargo
#

Yes, have u seen the new amd O-O

jagged ember
#

yeah i know

olive kraken
#

I mean

jagged ember
#

really unfortunate

olive kraken
#

Intel

keen cargo
#

Ik

jagged ember
#

it will run though

keen cargo
#

I’m returning it

jagged ember
#

to answer your question

surreal rain
#

AMD really destroyed the competition

olive kraken
#

Will most likely regain the crown

keen cargo
#

But ok gonna use it for now

snow vale
#

Does anyone have a second to help me in General Voice Chat?

olive kraken
#

whenever they release new generation

keen cargo
#

With what @snow vale

olive kraken
#

by a bit

snow vale
#

I'm trying to upgrade my PC and I have questions about parts/what to get

keen cargo
#

Budget?

olive kraken
#

but it begs the question. AMD will still be cheaper while instead of losing 10% performance u will lose 5%

keen cargo
#

True

olive kraken
#

I mean the 6800xt trades blows with 3080. and 5900x beats 10900k

surreal rain
#

@snow vale budget?

olive kraken
#

Now it's a matter of pricing and offers

#

Unless u r doing professional tasks in which case u go AMD nvidia

#

AMD AMD seems completely viable

foggy hazel
#

give me 2-3 minutes @snow vale

stoic island
#

"i7" is just a marketing term, the model that comes after it matters a lot more

olive kraken
#

^

snow vale
#

give me 2-3 minutes @snow vale
@foggy hazel I would appreciate your time!

stoic island
#

say an i7 4790 vs i7 10700k is a HUGE difference

#

one is a decade out of date, one is current gen

arctic jungle
#

@versed rock fyi, let me sum it up... the 6800xt beats the 3080 in a lot of games at 1080p, low settings. it's good for you if ur into esports. However, the 3080 has features like dlss and reflex tech (increases frames by 25-40% in those titles), and it has superior performance in higher resolutions and imagine qualities

olive kraken
#

Alongside professional tasks

stoic island
#

imo

#

6800xt = 3080 - features

olive kraken
#

yes

#

and those features make me go Nvidia

stoic island
#

surprisingly it gets better lows in some titles

olive kraken
#

I wonder how their streaming performance is

#

What % lost

stoic island
#

dunno

surreal rain
#

why tf does the 3060 ti have 6 gb and the 3060 has 12 gb

#

too deep in the development progress or something?

versed rock
#

Uhh, there is no 3060Ti or 3060 yet.

#

Those are all rumors.

surreal rain
#

from reliable sources...

versed rock
#

Also, Nvidia Reflex is a bunch of bogus garbage that they shouldn't have to enable on a game to game basis.

olive kraken
#

Also 6gb of vram

versed rock
#

And I can't even enable it on a game that just got support for it.

surreal rain
#

ok skip we get it you love AMD

versed rock
#

Even though I have a GPU that is capable of using Reflex.

surreal rain
#

we do too

olive kraken
#

That seems not great if uplay AAA tittles maced

#

maxed

versed rock
#

I don't "love" AMD. I just hate Nvidia's anti-consumer practices.

gleaming quartz
#

im not trying to alter the conversation but should i get an rtx 2060 or wait for the rtx 3070s to restock?

olive kraken
#

Nvidia Reflex isn't for u

surreal rain
#

wait for the 3070 to restock

olive kraken
#

UNless u r getting paid thousands of dollars a month to play games

surreal rain
#

like i'm doing

arctic jungle
#

Nvidia Reflex isn't for u
@olive kraken reflex is AMAZING

olive kraken
#

It's a nice to have

versed rock
#

Well, Reflex does have tangible benefits, if it can even be enabled.

jagged ember
#

lol reflex is nice though

olive kraken
#

at most

versed rock
#

I can't even seem to enable it on Destiny 2 even though it literally just got support for Reflex.

jagged ember
#

i've seen a slight improvement in my performance in game

versed rock
#

It's nowhere in the options menu for the game.

jagged ember
#

it's probably under video settings

#

probably

versed rock
#

It isn't.

surreal rain
#

probably

versed rock
#

The setting just doesn't exist.

jagged ember
#

idk i don't play destiny 2

versed rock
#

Do I absolutely NEED a 30 series card?

#

Because Nvidia themselves showed 10 series cards in their press work

jagged ember
#

lol that's a question you should ask yourself honestly

olive kraken
#

no

surreal rain
#

no but if they go down to their original prices it's a hard deal to pass

versed rock
#

And the Reflex site says 900 series and newer.

olive kraken
#

I mean don't go 900 right now

surreal rain
#

oh you mean for nvida reflex

olive kraken
#

10 or 20

#

when prices go down

surreal rain
#

nvidia*

jagged ember
#

20 prices never go down

#

limited edition now

versed rock
#

Oh.

#

Bungo do bad thing

#

You have to enable Reflex in the ini file of the game...

olive kraken
#

I meant to say when people start selling for cheaper xd

jagged ember
#

bungo why

olive kraken
#

Prices go down in my mind

jagged ember
#

hopefully they do in the future

olive kraken
#

My 2080s

#

Looking at me

#

I am looking at it

surreal rain
#

you can give it to me if you don't want it 🙂

olive kraken
#

I am giving it to my little siste r

#

when I get my hands on a 3080

jagged ember
#

damn

#

lucky

gleaming quartz
#

@surreal rain you can have my used rx 570troll

surreal rain
#

deal

jagged ember
#

hey rx570 is good just ask floppa

surreal rain
#

rx 570 is still solid for 1080p

gleaming quartz
#

true

#

and vr

surreal rain
#

i once played vr at a party

gleaming quartz
#

i can run hl alyx at constant 60 fps with 570

surreal rain
#

cod infinity warfare...

olive kraken
#

I am not a vr fan

#

But

#

2080s runs vr fine from what I have seen

#

Don't know if its worth selling and then buy like a 2060 or 1080 for my sister

#

All she going to do is play Minecraft, Among us and roblox

jagged ember
#

lol

#

GTX 960

gleaming quartz
#

im a vr addict

#

i literally only play vr nowadays

jagged ember
#

jk that would be a bad choice

olive kraken
#

xd

jagged ember
#

i would too ngl

surreal rain
#

is she young or something? my cousin plays those games as well at 13

olive kraken
#

12

surreal rain
#

eh close enough

olive kraken
#

That's why. Imagine getting a 2080s at 12yo

jagged ember
#

insane

olive kraken
#

Could never ;-;

surreal rain
#

imagine getting a pc at 14

jagged ember
#

at least she'd never have to upgrade for her lifetime, i guess

olive kraken
#

I WANNA SHOW HER THE WORLD. MAKE HER SUFFER GIVE HER UHD

#

WORK FOR YOUR SHIZ

jagged ember
#

1080i MONITOR TOO

surreal rain
#

CAPS TIME BABY

jagged ember
#

ew, did i really say 1080i

olive kraken
#

xd

jagged ember
#

terrible, terrible

surreal rain
#

1080 TI?

olive kraken
#

Lowk she doesn't know what she

#

she's getting

surreal rain
olive kraken
#

She asked Santa for a PS5

violet harness
#

It’s funny because my wii u (a 8 year old console) supports 1080i quality

olive kraken
#

I am like, I am about to give u a 2700x and 2080s

jagged ember
#

whAT? 40%??

surreal rain
#

good i love that video

jagged ember
#

that's actually hilarious

surreal rain
#

god*

olive kraken
#

Classic

surreal rain
#

i legit thought he was on a silo

#

idk how

#

in*

jagged ember
#

perspective

gleaming quartz
#

i had to repair my brother's wifi antenna for his ps4 just the other day

jagged ember
#

the video is as real as you believe it is

gleaming quartz
#

luckily i dont have to buy him a ps5 now

surreal rain
#

just read the top comments

olive kraken
#

nah

gleaming quartz
olive kraken
#

I am giving my sister a PS4 and a PC

#

SHE BETTER LOVE ME

versed rock
#

Why would you give her a PS4?

olive kraken
#

At age 12 I was playing on my Nintendo 64 smh

versed rock
#

The only reason to purchase a PS4 is for Persona 5 Royal.

olive kraken
#

To watch movies

versed rock
#

🤔

olive kraken
#

My old ps4

versed rock
#

Just slap a Blu-Ray drive in her PC

olive kraken
#

nah

versed rock
#

Or get a USB 3.0 one

surreal rain
#

@olive kraken i hpe you played Bloodborne

#

hope*

olive kraken
#

I did

surreal rain
#

good

olive kraken
#

fun game

versed rock
#

Why play Bloodborne when you have Persona 5 Royal?

olive kraken
#

raging fun

surreal rain
#

best game ever

#

i have 600 hrs in that game

#

and god

#

the dlc

#

Maria Ludwig

#

omfg

olive kraken
#

I have 4000 hours on Minecraft

#

:0

surreal rain
#

funny how you become a god after eating a couple of umbilical cords

olive kraken
#

Isn't that the norm

surreal rain
#

true

#

lol

olive kraken
#

xd Alright peace out I gtg

surreal rain
#

you too good hunter

violet harness
surreal rain
#

xdd

marsh gorge
#

wassup

#

i need a hand with a build if anyone can give me a hand

violet harness
#

U can put the pcpp link here @marsh gorge

#

^^^^

marsh gorge
violet harness
#

Buddy it’s not showing

sand sleet
#

@uncut pelican I don't know shrugs

violet harness
marsh gorge
#

okay

stoic island
violet harness
marsh gorge
#

okay, bear with

sand sleet
#

@uncut pelican no one told before it was a bad choice. My last build was 10 years ago a phenom ii with I think 1333 ddr3 ram set

solemn sigil
#

is the 1660 super still relivant in 202

violet harness
#

Well if your looking to buy a gpu

#

What’s ur budget

marsh gorge
#

okay, which ones would be better?

violet harness
#

@marsh gorge delete the windows 10 key

#

You can get one off of eBay for like 2$

marsh gorge
#

ohh okay

#

ty

#

is this better?

violet harness
#

@marsh gorge looks good to me man

torpid notch
#

why is there no cooler

marsh gorge
#

not looking to overclock, gonna use stock

torpid notch
#

oh

violet harness
marsh gorge
#

unless a good deal on an aio pops up

torpid notch
#

there was an aio 50 bucks a couple days ago

foggy hazel
#

@snow vale before you run, could you verify that we had a "interesting" visitor in voice chat?

violet harness
#

Me? @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
#

not you @violet harness

violet harness
#

Cause I visited the vc

foggy hazel
#

just after they left yes :)

marsh gorge
#

i was only going to look at another cooler if i ever felt the need to overclock

#

dont want to push the stock cooler too far and risk damaging the cpu

#

ah nice

violet harness
marsh gorge
#

true

#

the only reason i was asking about the build is because i want something thats good to upgrade from and will last a few years

#

dont want to run down the life of my laptop

#

msi leopard gp73 8re

versed rock
#

Why would you put a 240 rad on a 3700X? Just slap a DRP4 or NH-D15 Black Edition on it.

winged tinsel
#

Will a 3700x work for a 6800xt?

versed rock
#

Yeah, but you'll see a little more performance overall if you get a 5600X

winged tinsel
#

Yeah just the whole I waant it now thing

versed rock
#

Smart Access Memory isn't entirely bogus, but it does only net you between 3 to 5 FPS

#

It's called "If you wait, you will get better things"

still bay
#

what does cas latency affect?

#

how much fps difference is there between cl18 and cl16 (3600mhz) bc i think i accidentally put cl18 on my cousins pcpartpicker list and he already mightve bought it

versed rock
#

It's a fair difference.

#

CL18 3600Mhz is, basically the same as 3200Mhz CL16

#

But 3600Mhz CL16 is fest

#

Like, real fest

still bay
#

yeah but how much FPS loss?

versed rock
#

Probably 2 to 3 depending on the CPU

#

It's nothing earthshattering, but for the price differential, you might as well get 3600Mhz CL16.

still bay
#

oh

#

well a bit late but ill ask if she already bought it

versed rock
#

Ok, Nvidia Reflex + Boost in Destiny 2 is... really good...

#

I may get a 3080 over the 6800XT...

spring crest
#

would a 750 watt psu be enough for a build using a 5600x and a 3080?

versed rock
#

Maybe

little osprey
versed rock
#

It'd have to be a good one though.

fast dust
#

probably, just make sure its a good 750w

versed rock
#

With good OCP

still roostBOT
#
jaidenis#6614 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

spring crest
#

good to know, i think ima just get an 850w

stoic island
#

Revolution d.f. 850w at 130$

#

Amazing multi rail unit for the price

versed rock
#

Dang, I might cop one of those when I get my 3080.

#

Friggin Nvidia Reflex in Destiny 2 makes it feel so much smoother.

#

I wish AMD had something like Reflex, but I don't think they could realistically make something like that.

surreal rain
#

@versed rock how much is a 3080 in the us?

versed rock
#

Infinite dollars right now.

#

Because scalpers.

surreal rain
#

ha ha

#

f those guys

versed rock
#

I want a CPU and GPU launch that has no online presence for the first 6 months.

#

That way Scalpers can't exist.

stoic island
#

Covid is sad

surreal rain
#

covid will die

#

i know the vaccine is new but i'll take it

desert elbow
#

So when u think 3080 will be back in stock

surreal rain
#

in a few months at worst

vital scaffold
#

i have a $700 budget can someone make me a part list.\

versed rock
#

Used Dell Optiplex + GPU and PSU

#

That's your realistic best option under 1000 USD

#

At least right now.

surreal rain
#

just don't make him buy a overpriced motherboard

native plover
vital scaffold
#

k thank you

little leaf
#

Hey I need some help on a pc I recently built

#

Its a 9900k with no gpu yet

#

a phantomgaming 4 ac

surreal rain
#

budget?

little leaf
#

16 gigs of trident z 3200 cl16

#

and the ssd is a Adata sx6000pnp

#

@foggy hazel whats happening is I installed windows a few days ago and today I booted to a screen of reinsert proper boot device, but when I opened bios nothing was there

#

besides the ssd

#

I tried to reinstall windows but the ssd doesn't pop up as an option

versed rock
#

Did your re-seat the SSD?

little leaf
#

yes

terse harbor
#

Can someone help me pick parts?

surreal rain
#

what's your budget?

plush mist
#

yes

#

budget

terse harbor
#

1k - 1.3k

#

Usd

surreal rain
#

for gaming,streaming,editing?

terse harbor
#

Gaming mainly with some college stuff

surreal rain
#

kk

desert elbow
#

Is 10100f just the 10100 without integrated graphics or is there more too it

terse harbor
#

I want to start with something then upgrade it in 2 or 3 months

desert elbow
#

Idk

stoic island
#

10100f just doesn't have iGPU

#

That's it

little leaf
#

Hey I need some help on a pc I recently built
Its a 9900k with no gpu yet
a phantomgaming 4 ac
Nameless KingToday at 9:02 AM

pcpartpicker.com/list/DKRPxcToday at 9:02 AM
16 gigs of trident z 3200 cl16
and the ssd is a Adata sx6000pnp
whats happening is I installed windows a few days ago and today I booted to a screen of reinsert proper boot device, but when I opened bios nothing was there
besides the ssd
I tried to reinstall windows but the ssd doesn't pop up as an option

foggy hazel
#

@little leaf you tried to reset the bios?

little leaf
#

not yet

foggy hazel
#

please do

little leaf
#

would that wipe the drive?

foggy hazel
#

no

little leaf
#

ok I'll do that in a sec

foggy hazel
#

resetting the cmos/bios has no bearing on the drive itself

little leaf
#

Oh I thought you meant something else

mighty wadi
unique grove
#

whats the play Lian Li Unifans or Corsair iQue QL120 for a lian li 011 dynamic

lethal steppe
#

i'd probably spend 10 dollars on that pc

mighty wadi
#

It’s listed for $75 😬

neat epoch
#

not worth it at all

brazen dune
#

joined facebook in 2009
built computer in 2009

lethal steppe
#

there's no way it's like new either

#

it's been playing minecraft since minecraft came out

mighty wadi
#

Lmaooo

brazen dune
#

The first gen i7 is still a great value CPU though

mighty wadi
#

Would it be good for like a home workstation tho?

neat epoch
#

@mighty wadi hell no

brazen dune
#

Throw an SSD in it and it would be good for word processing and web browsing

#

I would still try to get it lowered to around $50

mighty wadi
#

Oh I see, it’s probably not any better than my family’s current dinosaur that’s still running windows vista

brazen dune
#

windows vista is not a secure operating system

#

Just on the basis of getting a new OS with security updates I would get it then

mighty wadi
#

Yeah that’s true but we don’t really use the pc anymore

#

I got all of our pictures off of it that we wanted to keep it’s just sitting there rn

#

I’m trying to figure out what to do with it

brazen dune
#

install ubuntu and use it as a server pc

foggy hazel
#

retro gaming machine is an option

lethal steppe
#

i'd recycle it because i'm not 5head peepoSadSip

zinc marsh
#

you could use it as a small table!

lethal steppe
#

^

brazen dune
#

use the disc drive as a cup holder

mighty wadi
#

Good ideas😂

#

But I probably shouldn’t think about that pc for $75 then?

zinc marsh
#

I mean if all you're going to do is run chrome then it might work

#

otherwise I'd say it's a waste of cash

mighty wadi
#

Would would I have to do to make it for like schoolwork and maybe a little gaming stuff?

neat epoch
#

the worst part of that pc when it comes to gaming is probably the 270 tbh

zinc marsh
#

you would want to get an ssd in there

neat epoch
#

250*

#

im dumb

raw mist
#

anyone know a good psu for a r5 3600 and 5600xt?

zinc marsh
#

I mean I feel like even modern minecraft would run like garbage on that thing

neat epoch
#

probably, but the 860 can still get near playable framerates on low settings

lethal steppe
#

maybe vanilla but idk about huge servers

neat epoch
#

that is with a 2070 tho

mighty wadi
#

So what ssd would you recommend for it then?

zinc marsh
#

I would say an m.2 but the mobo isnt even listed so I dont know if itd be supported

brazen dune
#

I threw a 1070 in a pc with a first gen i7 and was getting like 80fps in rust

zinc marsh
#

just slap a cheap sata ssd in there

still roostBOT
#
int16_t#6619 has been warned

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neat epoch
#

@zinc marsh m.2 wasn't really a thing then

zinc marsh
#

Yeah I figured

brazen dune
#

it's probably only sata 3

mighty wadi
#

It has an AMD gpu if that helps

zinc marsh
#

Oh cool I just got regular

neat epoch
#

@mighty wadi like i said, thats probably one of the weakest links

little osprey
#

Can someone please explain the differenc between kraken z73 and x73, i can put a video on the coolers screen on both of them right?

zinc marsh
#

I'd say it isnt worth the 75$, especially because itd be a pain upgrading with all the old components

neat epoch
#

@little osprey main difference is radiator thickness from what i found

#

nvm im dumb

#

@little osprey only the z has the screen

zinc marsh
#

yeah looking here the x only has rgb

mighty wadi
#

Okay, what about this listing? It’s priced at $250 but price is negotiable

neat epoch
#

once again, hell no

zinc marsh
#

I mean

#

it has an ssd

neat epoch
#

better value, but still over priced

zinc marsh
#

for 250$ HELLLLL NO

neat epoch
#

you can find a 1080 for that much

zinc marsh
#

yeah

#

terrible value

mighty wadi
#

Ayo what price would y’all go for then?

neat epoch
#

for that machine?

#

i would pay like 50-70

#

but im stingy

#

so

zinc marsh
#

for that machine? I'd maybe be willing to spend a 20 on it

neat epoch
#

apparently im not stingy

zinc marsh
#

lol

#

I mean I wouldnt buy it in the first place

mighty wadi
#

For sure, but I’m so new to the pc scene and just want something affordable and probably prebuilt because I have no idea what’s good or not

zinc marsh
#

I mean youd probably be better off just doing school work on a phone than spending money on those pcs imo

neat epoch
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^

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those pc's are basically e-waste

zinc marsh
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If you're just looking to do some school work and gaming I'd say around 400-600$ is a good price range

little leaf
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you can easily game aaa games with 600 dollars

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at 60fps

zinc marsh
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true

mighty wadi
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Thanks for the input yall

zinc marsh
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I'm on a 600$ pc rn

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Now that I think about it you can run most games with a 600$ pc, just have to mess with setting and such pretty often

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if you were just looking for gaming I'd honestly say just go one of the new consoles, prob gonna be the best experience youll get for the price

little osprey
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disagree

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their the best price to performance option but you still have to pay for online and other things

little leaf
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@foggy hazel it did nothing

foggy hazel
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hmm

raw mist
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any suggestions for my first build

little osprey
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no cap that builds kinda bad for the price

raw mist
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what wud u change lol

little osprey
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id go for a 5500xt instead of a 5600 xt

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its like a 10 fps drop for 300$ less

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and more vram

little leaf
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this is cad

little osprey
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oh

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canadian

raw mist
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yeah lmaoo

little osprey
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lemme translate it

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LMAO

raw mist
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yeahh

little osprey
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i was bouta say 1.4k too much for that

raw mist
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yeah its like 1000 usd

little leaf
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don't get rgb ram

little osprey
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1k usd

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ye

little leaf
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don't get that mobo

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no need for extra fans

raw mist
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i want rgb tho 😦

low star
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Lian li is doing a giveaway

snow vale
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Do you need a stand-off in every designated zone? What if I don’t have anymore

vital warren
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you could prob squeeze in a 3070 in that list

zenith sentinel
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Looking to build my first custom pc. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jjLFZZ - I want to use the Noctua NH-D15 with an Aorus Master (rev 1.2 that has the Q Flash BIOS) and I am unsure whether the memory I have chosen would have enough clearance with the heat spreaders on the RAM sticks with that cooler. I don't want liquid cooling since I have a pet for fear it would don't want it lap up coolant! Can someone advise?

raw mist
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what mobo shud i get tho lol

vital warren
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well it's an r5 3600 you don't need anything major

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asrock b550 pg4 is what i have for mine

raw mist
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okay then

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micro atx kinda looks weird in a an atx case tho lol

vital warren
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ur thinking of the wrong board

little leaf
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@zenith sentinel purpose?

little osprey
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@zenith sentinel uhh i wouldnt buy a windows key for 189 btw

zenith sentinel
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Gaming + development

zinc marsh
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yeah honestly just hop on ebay and get one for like 25

little osprey
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no cap get a 3080 if your buying a saphire

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their both out of stock and both 700$

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zinc marsh
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Yeah, if you're looking for raytracing and such you're going to want to go with a 3080

zenith sentinel
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Then it means paying a ton more for a G-Sync monitor... I use a Macbook Pro - and that monitor will work with it as well.

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So Freesync for me.

neat epoch
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...

zinc marsh
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you dont NEED a gsync monitor

neat epoch
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you can use freesync on n-vidia

zinc marsh
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it would still work fine

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gsync is just slightly better

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freesync works fine

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that psu seems like a bit much

zenith sentinel
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it uses a usb type c connector. Does RTX 3080 have that?

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Maybe - but can use it in other builds if ever I upgrade - will have some headroom.

zinc marsh
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why would you spend that much on a graphics card and then use usb c for your video output

neat epoch
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^

zenith sentinel
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Because of the bandwidth.

small osprey
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usb c isnt just for video output

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it can also be used for vr headsets

neat epoch
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@small osprey thats still video..

small osprey
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but 3080 doesnt have usb c

zinc marsh
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for like a quest maybe

small osprey
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if u want usb c u need a 6800/6800xt

robust birch
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Is charging 45 to building a PC too much?

zenith sentinel
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that what I went for ... 😉

neat epoch
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@robust birch i would probably charge more ngl

little osprey
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@robust birch Nah

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Thats cheap

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I charge 100

robust birch
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Welp i missed my chance ffsLucidsuprised

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Though I did say the person that if waited 1 more day the pc would cost 1000+

zinc marsh
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I just feel like if you're going to spend that much on a graphics card youd want to use it to its full potential, which is using a display cable on a nice monitor