building-and-recc-chat

[fast dust]

Yeah sure dm me. I’m not on my pc rn so I’ll get to you in like 30 min

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jwTZJf well I dont see how this is not good enough for what he wants

but ok

[wild briar]

Ok @fast dust just direct message me plz

[vital warren]

do not pay 245 for a r5 3600

just an fyi for whoever you made that list for

[weak field]

theres 3600xt for cheaper

[little osprey]

it was from the start there

from his list

[junior atlas]

199 can be had for the r5 3600 if you take even 20 minutes to look around.

[little osprey]

then I edited it

and didnt change CPU

[weak field]

someone

please fix this

[little osprey]

ok just get a 3090 and 100W

[vital warren]

3600xt is a waste just wait for 3600 to drop

[little osprey]

LOl

[wild briar]

Btw

I am ordering parts on cyber Monday

Just saying

[little osprey]

ok

thats good

[weak field]

sooo make a better list

go over budget by 100-150 dollars

then thatll even out on deals

[oak kayak]

Hello there I’m currently trying to figure out how I could most efficiently cool the system I’m going to build. I’m using the cosmos c700m Master cooler case. I have a Kraken Z73 (360mm) for the cpu cooler. This is only my second pc build and the other one I didn’t mess with the cases airflow layout. Meaning I have no idea what I’m doing. Where should I place the radiator for optimal airflow. I want to make sure It’s set up properly. I would be willing to buy more fans if necessary. If anybody has any ideas I would really appreciate any suggestions. 

[weak field]

at the top

so you can get airflow from the front

[oak kayak]

Ok thanks !

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvrqRT

this is my list and my first build. I would like some advice to make it the best for my budget! thanks :))

[balmy patio]

1500 is your budget, right

[little osprey]

Yup

[balmy patio]

ight fs i'll check it out

how much do you care about looks?

[wide rover]

just posted this in Cooling but I should also post it here:

Hey! So I'm not sure if this is the right chat to ask but here I am. So I built my PC a few months ago and did not add any additional fans to it. It is a thermaltake s100 black (CA-1Q9-00S1WN-00) and I bought a 140mm fan recently and will be getting it soon, but wonder where I should put the fan.

The only fan other than the two on my CPU fan (I have a NH-D15) is an outtake fan, and am wondering where I should place it when I get the new fan. I could mount it to the front (for intake) but there is no all around filter (one on the sides a little), and I could mount it to the top where there is the most fresh air and a filter (for intake) but heat rises, so it may not be good.

Any suggestions of what I should do here?

[little osprey]

how much do you care about looks?
@balmy patio I do care a lot

[weak field]

[balmy patio]

i agree with kermit vader

[wide rover]

what

[weak field]

😯

[little osprey]

is the list pretty good tho?

[balmy patio]

so @little osprey would you like to keep the rog logo or can i get rid of that?

[little osprey]

i dont really care about that logo tbh

[balmy patio]

sweet

[wide rover]

oh there are multiple kermits i was so confused

[little osprey]

are u editing the list or whats happening? @balmy patio

[balmy patio]

yeah im editing the list

[little osprey]

Oh

[balmy patio]

wanna keep the stock cooler or go with a rbg one?

[little osprey]

I mean stock cooler has RGB already

I think stock cooler would be fine

[balmy patio]

i dont think it does for the 5600x

lemme double check

[little osprey]

aww

It doesnt

ffs

[balmy patio]

ill jus go with a cooler master hyper 212

the rgb version

[weak field]

[little osprey]

is it good?

[balmy patio]

and went with a sp120 fan to match the other fans in the case

yeah its pretty good

[little osprey]

aight

can I see the list

[balmy patio]

this is what i have so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWtkJf

[little osprey]

ah I like that

[balmy patio]

could add two extra sp120's on top if you're into that

[little osprey]

should I?

everyone said I didnt need top fans

[balmy patio]

you don't

[little osprey]

hm

then I am not getting it I guess

[balmy patio]

you shall see some pictures of builds with fans on top, idk if you'd like it, i don't imo

[little osprey]

send me some pictures

send here pls

[balmy patio]

thats what it'd look like from an angle with the fans on top

[fleet pagoda]

My friend just has a mother board laying on his floor

[little osprey]

lmao

[little osprey]

ewww intel cooler

and what is that mobo

[weak field]

cpu in it?

[fleet pagoda]

Idk

[little osprey]

LMao

[fleet pagoda]

Cheap

[weak field]

make a posting on ebay

40$

1-207 cpus

[stoic island]

@fleet pagoda how does that thing have a post code

[weak field]

not lying

[little osprey]

I mean if I dont need fans on the top I wont get it? @balmy patio

[fleet pagoda]

Idk

Hes making a pc out of ps2 parts

🤣

[little osprey]

😂

ps2

[fleet pagoda]

Thats awesome

[little osprey]

he should at least use PS4 parts ngl

[fleet pagoda]

Nah ps2 on top

[little osprey]

Lol

[balmy patio]

I mean if I dont need fans on the top I wont get it? @balmy patio
@little osprey if you don't need fans on top, it's up to you if you get them or not ngl

[little osprey]

its kinda of a waste to get it

[balmy patio]

it'll be able to stay in your budget if you still choose to do so

[little osprey]

because I dont need it 😂

nah I dont want it

[balmy patio]

fair enough

so what i sent earlier should be enough lmao

[little osprey]

how many fans are compatible in the top?

[balmy patio]

2 120mm fans or 2 140mm fans

[little osprey]

I had MSI B550-A in my list before but changed it because people said it was bad .-.

[polar anvil]

joesr does the ryzen 3100 and gtx 1660 for 144hz low settings gaming

[stoic island]

Yes

[balmy patio]

^^

[polar anvil]

does it bottlenect

[stoic island]

@polar anvil you are bottleneck

[polar anvil]

Im in spain but the s is silent

[little osprey]

ok?

but u are talking english here so it doesnt matter lmao @polar anvil

[stoic island]

I'm in the United States except the nited tates is silent

[balmy patio]

bruh case fans be in spain but the a is silent

[stoic island]

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWtkJf

is that fine?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWtkJf

[stoic island]

ooo

Amp back in stock?

@little osprey it's decent, everything is good except I don't like the price of the cooler

44$ for that...

[fleet pagoda]

Need a 800-1000 build for my friend

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/2P8cbv

[fleet pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CP8PF8 how this

[stoic island]

I need to actively update these things

@fleet pagoda no

[fleet pagoda]

I like yours

Better

[whole harbor]

DO. JUST NO

JUST NO

[stoic island]

Hm

[weak field]

thats a 1k list

[stoic island]

2060 is gone

[weak field]

burn it

i have 1

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydw2mk

dont judge

[little osprey]

@fleet pagoda https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h2jvj2 passes a lil bit the budget

[stoic island]

:p

[balmy patio]

can a 3070 and a 3600 work with a 600-650w psu? (something like a corsair cxm or evga bq)

[whole harbor]

ARE U KIDDING

no one wants a 3600 for $300

[little osprey]

wait

I put it wrong sorry

jeez

[whole harbor]

I was hella pressed

[still roost]

dulvn#1815 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[whole harbor]

Sec

[stoic island]

CXm no

Throw out cxm

[balmy patio]

😳

[little osprey]

how much is it again

[balmy patio]

so would a bq work?

[whole harbor]

@stoic island my friends wants a $500

Pc

For games

[stoic island]

lol

[balmy patio]

jus get a used optiplex or similar and slap a 1650 in it

[stoic island]

not right now

[little osprey]

LOL

[weak field]

shlap

[fleet pagoda]

Will ryzen 5 3600 and a 2060 be better than a i5 10400f

For performance

[weak field]

i5 10400f you say?

idk

[fleet pagoda]

@stoic island what do u think

[little osprey]

ewww intel

[toxic snow]

Do i really need a 750w power supply for a rtx 3070?

[sharp tundra]

Not really, you could get away with less

[toxic snow]

I have a ryzen 5600

[sharp tundra]

But play room is nice, and if you ever want to OC then having that extra wattage helps a lot and you won't have to upgrade your PSU

[little osprey]

@toxic snow part list?

[sharp tundra]

750w is comfortable wattage for a pc usually

[toxic snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hBbkJf

[sharp tundra]

For that list, you don't need a 750w, but if you planned on getting a 3070, then I would keep it

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWtkJf

this is my list

ops?

[little osprey]

?

what

[sharp tundra]

All ryzen 5000 chips will say that when pairing them with a x570 or b550

But they do work together

[little osprey]

Yeah

Ik

[sharp tundra]

I was talking to Don, cause I think thats what he screen shotted for

[little osprey]

k

[cloud oasis]

Wait they do?

[little osprey]

yup

[desert gulch]

yes

[balmy patio]

and @fleet pagoda it shouldn't be of worrying either cuz, if you get lucky enough and receive one before zen3 was announced, the board has bios flashback which enables you to update bios from a usb stick without needing a cpu of sort

[iron berry]

Wondering if there's a better way to plug the usb c and usb 3.0 cables in

[little osprey]

ooh

u building t rn?

noiceee

and amazing looking NZXT case

[balmy patio]

ah yes, from the bottom

[little osprey]

which one is that

[iron berry]

It's a corsair 4000d

[balmy patio]

looks clean, can't even notice them from afar

[little osprey]

no way

😮

[iron berry]

The airflow

[little osprey]

send a pic of the front

nvm

found it

[balmy patio]

are you gonna get that case?

[iron berry]

Oh okay

[little osprey]

dang that case looks good

should I get the iCue 200t or 4000D

[wary geode]

220t

That’s the 220t

[balmy patio]

that urs?

[iron berry]

I got the 4000d for the usb c port on the front

[little osprey]

awwwwwwwwwwwww

idfk know now

400D or 200T

[iron berry]

Glad you found some options though

[little osprey]

Yeah

tysm

[haughty swan]

@wary geode what are the fans in your case?

[cloud oasis]

Wait so you dont have to bios update?

[balmy patio]

for what

[wary geode]

asiahorse

[iron berry]

@wary geode how do you like them

[wary geode]

10/10

the rgb feels better than the ll120and i have both

ll120 brightnest for the flow its dedf the asiahorse

[haughty swan]

Thx

[little osprey]

@iron berry Does ur case come with front fans?

the 4000D

[still bay]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C76W2WM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 this things airflow is fine right

for like a mid level pc

[little osprey]

we aint even talking about that one

[still bay]

what

[little osprey]

what

[still bay]

wdym we aint even talking about that one

[little osprey]

we aint talking about that case

[iron berry]

One exhaust one front @little osprey

[little osprey]

only one fan in the front?

huh

[iron berry]

One in the front and one in the back but it's also only 80 bucks

I'm planning on adding fans later once I get into a job post college

[cursive magnet]

Anybody got a budget build with monitor???

[vital warren]

depends on the budget

[iron berry]

Facts, what's the total budget

[still bay]

we aint talking about that case
@little osprey what’s wrong with that case

Actually I’m not gonna listen to u about airflow u think ll120s are good

[little osprey]

bruh

I never said anything was wrong with the case @still bay

I was just saying

we werent talking about that case

but u actually dont know how to understand things of how busted u are

[balmy patio]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C76W2WM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 this things airflow is fine right
@still bay its fine if you don't need much air going in it, since the only intakes are from two vents on the front panel

[still bay]

For a 3700x and 5700xt with 3 fans?

My thought process is worst case scenario get an aio and put it on top as an intake

[balmy patio]

no don't do that

since heat rises and well, it'll jus come down and come back up

[still bay]

Very true good point

Would an aio at the front make the airflow worse?

[balmy patio]

just get the 4000d, it looks similar and allows for more airflow

[still bay]

Yeah but 3 rgb fans for the same price = worth

[balmy patio]

the 4000d cost 80 dollars

the other one cost 120

[still bay]

Hmm but hear me out

3 cooler master rgb fans + fan hub = like 70 bucks

i really feel like its not that massive of a deal and the airflow will be fine correct me if im wrong

hes not putting a 3080 or 3090 in that thing and he doesnt work for like nasa hes gonna be playing like minecraft and sht so idk

[balmy patio]

i thought we were talking about the 4000x?

[still bay]

we are

[balmy patio]

the don't come with cooler master fans

[still bay]

my other friend already has like literally that exact build but a 3600x instead of 3700x and diff mobo

i know

im saying i would buy the MF120R's

well he would not me

[balmy patio]

this is cheaper, comes with three argb fans and a controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08412JPCH?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[still bay]

imo ugly and also idk if that will fit the card but ik the 4000x does

[balmy patio]

what card

[still bay]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtgaming-8gd-rev-2-0/p/N82E16814932338?item=N82E16814932338&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+cards+-+amd%2Fati-_-N82E16814932338&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRqRdBUNFKJ-iJ81cqe56bOLHOTalwtPyYNkm6fatAbSGpsw4CHL20YaAkjTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[balmy patio]

it does fit the card

[still bay]

do u know if the 220t does

that would be ideal i think bc he said he likes thta one the most

plus its 20 bucks off rn

[balmy patio]

it does fit the card

[still bay]

okay so ill go with that then?

[balmy patio]

wait, its this one that he wants, right? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wj4BD3/corsair-icue-220t-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011174-ww

[still bay]

yes

well out of the like 2 cases i showed him

i was just concerned bc i had it in a pcpartpicker with another 5700xt and it gave me a warning it wouldnt fit

here ill send a parts list : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C3jqRT

plus the 5700xt i linked up above

[balmy patio]

the 5700xt you linked me was 280mm, the case has 300mm of space for a graphics card

[still bay]

gotcha thanks

do u think that could be an issue in the future tho?

or is 280mm big for a gpu

[balmy patio]

280mm is pretty big

[still bay]

btw yes ik the mobo is overpriced/too much for the build but bc of the 30 dollar mail in rebate it made sense

[balmy patio]

but its a triple fan card so i wouldnt be surprised

[still bay]

gotcha

if the mail in rebate ends ill just do like a aorus b550 elite or smth

[cyan saffron]

what is the best itx case that is not a SFF?

[still bay]

and the monitor is good too @balmy patio ?

[cyan saffron]

i saw the h210i and the phanteks enthoo evolv itx

[still bay]

im already a bit over his budget with 1443 so

[balmy patio]

i'd do my own research on the monitor since i heard pcpp is a bit whacky with its monitor selection

[still bay]

gotcha

[balmy patio]

so what is his budget?

[still bay]

well it was around 1,100 for the pc + like 1,300 for also a monitor

but he said its fine that i went a bit over budget

[balmy patio]

ok

[still bay]

he used to use his dads pc and his dad just decided he cant use it anymore so he is making his own

[balmy patio]

is he only gonna game on it?

[still bay]

yup\

well

yeah

[balmy patio]

ok i'll see if i can edit the list to make it perform better

is he gonna want the rgb ram as well?

or can i get rid of that

[still bay]

i'd say keep the ram

to my knowledge its prettty good and its only like 10-20 bucks more for the rgb

theme is white btw

[balmy patio]

ohhh okok

got it

[winged tinsel]

Does the r7 3700x actually have 8 cores??

[balmy patio]

8 cores and 16 threads

[still bay]

yes they cannot lie

[winged tinsel]

lmao alright thanks

[balmy patio]

@still bay how much over-budget will your friend be fine with?

[still bay]

If I’m being honest with u he is pretty rich but his parents don’t like spending money on video games and stuff

So max like 1400-1500

[balmy patio]

ahhh okok

[winged tinsel]

How’s this for a budget pc build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/1234hihello/saved/P8zwcf

[still bay]

Great ish except for case

[next mulch]

not

[still bay]

Get like a 275R airflow or a 220T or look at other ones

[next mulch]

bad

I would change the board to a ASUS TUF x570 though

I know that brand better and its only like 5 dollars more

[still bay]

I can vouch for that exact mobo the Aorus one

It is great I’ve built with it before

It looks gorgeous irl too

[winged tinsel]

Well that case isn’t the case I have

[manic willow]

Sorry for the unrelated topic, but does anyone have any opinions on the build redux prebuilts being sold

[vital warren]

if anything i would go cheaper on mobo but it works

[still bay]

Sorry for the unrelated topic, but does anyone have any opinions on the build redux prebuilts being sold
@manic willow only prebuilt I recommend is NZXT BLD

[winged tinsel]

I have a case worse for airflow which is the h510 elite but I took the front panel just off and put a mesh panel on instead

[still bay]

Smart

[manic willow]

@manic willow only prebuilt I recommend is NZXT BLD
@still bay
I see, I'll also have a look at their systems

[still bay]

@still bay
I see, I'll also have a look at their systems
@manic willow great

[balmy patio]

ight @still bay this is what i came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xYCMVc

[still bay]

He needs the pc like now tho

So the 5600x won’t work

[balmy patio]

nor the 3070 tho huh

lemme change it rq

so does he plan on ordering the parts today/tomorrow?

[still bay]

Tomorrow yeah

[balmy patio]

can he wait like a few more days

wait nvm

[still bay]

Wdym

[fleet pagoda]

Best 900$ pre build

[still bay]

Nzxt bld

@balmy patio so u think my parts list is fine

[balmy patio]

if you plan on buying tomorrow or today, at 1400 this is what i came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXQL9N

[still bay]

Why that GPU

And I’ll put in a different mobo for like 50 more bucks I think

[balmy patio]

that gpu is cheaper than the one you linked me

imma be out for a few mins, hold on

[still bay]

Okay

But that one only has 2 fans is my concern/question

[balmy patio]

the 220t has three in the front, i added an extra one to work as an exhaust

[still bay]

No I meant the gpu

[small forum]

bois is the pny 3080 graphics card good?

[balmy patio]

and are you dead set on buying the rog mobo

[still bay]

Pny is meh to my knowledge

Who me?

[balmy patio]

yes

[small forum]

but like will it run well

[still bay]

Nah he just said he liked how it looks

[small forum]

with like a ryzen 9 3900x

[balmy patio]

pny is just not that known, so that might be why it's cheap

[still bay]

either that or a Aorus b550 elite

[small forum]

its like 850 rn joesr

[balmy patio]

yes ik

[small forum]

so should i buy it for my pc?

[balmy patio]

and there's a rog mobo thats white for like the same price

[still bay]

True I forgot

[balmy patio]

if you'd like to buy it, go for it, but you should wait and see if the 6800xt is any better

[still bay]

It’s not for me btw

[balmy patio]

yeah ik

[still bay]

Oh u meant hm

[small forum]

i dont need anything thats gonna get me that much fps and when is the 6800 xt coming out

[still bay]

Him

My bad

[balmy patio]

the 6800xt is coming the 18th iirc

[small forum]

how much is it gonna be

[still bay]

10 rubbles

[next mulch]

my last part I have for my pc is the gpu

Its coming out on my birthday

(6800xt)

[balmy patio]

the 6800xt is 649

[small forum]

damnnnn

and it comes out the 18th

[balmy patio]

yes

[small forum]

and its as good as the 3080?

[balmy patio]

amd claims that its better

but we'll see if the claims are true

[next mulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xP49cT

theres mah list

I only have the gpu lefttt

[balmy patio]

looks good

[next mulch]

and im excited because its on my bd

[balmy patio]

😳

[stoic island]

d15s very nice

[next mulch]

ye people said I had to go with a water cooler but I said I wasnt doing any overclocking so idk

[stoic island]

doesn't matter

D15s OP either way

[fleet pagoda]

Best 900$ pre build

[stoic island]

even with OC

[next mulch]

I might do light OC but thats it

[ripe wedge]

looks like a solid build

[small forum]

damn it said the amd radeon 6800 xt is like almost as good as the 3080

[stoic island]

ye

[next mulch]

if I can see the 3080 for 700 dollars I might get it for dlss and ray

[still bay]

i lied here : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qKv28J

[stoic island]

B550-a fairly expensive

[uncut pelican]

Hello

[still bay]

B550-a fairly expensive
@stoic island true but it looks sick

and then this monitor https://www.amazon.com/VG248QG-G-Sync-Compatible-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07TNM8L6S/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=1080p+144hz+monitor&qid=1605408258&sr=8-14

[uncut pelican]

@still bay but are you going to be staring at your mobo a lot?

[still bay]

indeed

[stoic island]

smh

X570-p

[still bay]

well i will not be looking at this build at all

[uncut pelican]

Ok

[stoic island]

Asrock B550 pro4

[still bay]

my friend will

[uncut pelican]

You do you man

[still bay]

whats a good 1080p monitor

budget like 200 ish bucks

[uncut pelican]

Something by asus

Ill link here

[haughty swan]

Hi do I need more fan with the Corsair 220t or I am ok with the included?

[uncut pelican]

Check this out on @Newegg: ASUS VG248QG 24" Full HD 1920 x 1080 0.5ms 165Hz(overclockable) Gaming Monitor, G-SYNC Compatible, Adaptive-Sync, ASUS Eye Care with Ultra Low-blue Light & Flicker-Free Technology https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-vg248qg-90lmgg901q022eul-24/p/N82E16824236978?Item=9SIA8N2BBD2241&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA8N2BBD2241-_-11142020

Bruh

Did we link the same thing

Wait nvm

[still bay]

Hi do I need more fan with the Corsair 220t or I am ok with the included?
@haughty swan find with included but its not a bad idea for spend 25 bucks on antoher SP120

[uncut pelican]

But it goes on sale a lot for 200 bucks

I bought it when it was 199

[still bay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyGdHz

[uncut pelican]

Very close to my list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zQJVW3

[still bay]

nice build but i would recommend a 750w

[uncut pelican]

Too late

I bought a 650 cuz it will be 600-615 ish which is the most efficient

[still bay]

not true to my knowledge

[uncut pelican]

? Please go on

[still bay]

psu's are most efficient at about half their max wattage

[uncut pelican]

Huh ive heard different

Ill probs upgrade psu within thr next year

[still bay]

the graph looksa bit like this
__________________ / `
/ \

wtf

well

[uncut pelican]

?

I do not speak line

[still bay]

its like up, stead in a straight line at about 30-80% ish, then bottoms out again at higher

if u understand what i mean

[uncut pelican]

There is only like 16 watts from the max

[uneven mist]

is a 240mm ekwb aio enough to cool a 5600x overclocked (not alot)

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rHBxHz

ops?

[still bay]

is a 240mm ekwb aio enough to cool a 5600x overclocked (not alot)
@uneven mist yes but why not the 360mm version

[uneven mist]

money

[still bay]

isnt the 360mm version like 10-20 bucks more

[uneven mist]

idk its like double that for me bc im au

[still bay]

???

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/aio

its 30 bucks more

[uneven mist]

it cost 60$ more in australia xd

i mean i could get it

[still bay]

wack

[uneven mist]

it would like nicer

[still bay]

if u have enough money do it if not then dont

[uneven mist]

wait

so for my fans

i have 3 intake in the front that come with the case

the 3/2 for top intake or out?

[still bay]

what case do u have

[uneven mist]

and 1 at the back

p500a

what ssetup should i do

3 intake at the front

[still bay]

u can put the aio at the front then have exhausts at the top and back

[uneven mist]

u think?

[still bay]

i know.

[uneven mist]

yeah probs smart

[still bay]

the aio comes with 3 fan

[uneven mist]

bc then the aio gets cool air

yea

so ill use the 3 ones that come with the case put them at the top and then the one extra fan im buying for the back

or do i cut the extra fan and just have 2 at top 1 at back

and then i could get a 360 ez

[still bay]

what

no put the aio and the 3 included fans in the front

[uneven mist]

ueaj

yeah*

ok so ill have the aio with the fans included with the case at the front, 3 fans from the aio at the top and then 1 extra fan im buying at the back

[still bay]

umm i'd use the aio fans with the aio

[uneven mist]

ok

but the rest is good

[little osprey]

So what is the consensus on what ram i should I get with a 5600x? 4 sticks of 8gb? Cl16/3600mhz?

[uneven mist]

u going for 32gb?

[still bay]

it doesnt matter if u get 2x16 ior 4x8 for 5000 ryzen

[little osprey]

Well i wasnt originally but apparently dual rank runs better?

[still bay]

im not sure if it does for 5000 series ryzen

look up benchmarks

[little osprey]

I'm basing this off of GN's video

[still bay]

gotcha

[sonic pasture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/fletchtech/saved/nWnMbv is this good because all I want to run is cod and Minecraft lol

[little osprey]

https://youtu.be/-UkGu6A-6sQ

[uneven mist]

yes yes

that will run cod and minecraft easy

[still bay]

then go for 2x16

[sonic pasture]

Ok thanks

[still bay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/fletchtech/saved/nWnMbv is this good because all I want to run is cod and Minecraft lol
@sonic pasture yeah thats a good build

why did u get 2 ssds tho

[uneven mist]

idk about the micro atx board

[still bay]

and get a 750w psu

same idk how i feel about that mobo its kinda trash

[little osprey]

Do you really need 750w tho for that cpu and gpu

[uneven mist]

oof that hurts im going for a 650 and mines like higher spec then that

[still bay]

yes u kinda do

[sonic pasture]

@still bay Should I only get one

[still bay]

for upgrades and for efficiency

[little osprey]

Yeah dude 750w if you want a 3070 not 5700 lol

[still bay]

@sonic pasture give me 5 mins and ill edit ur parts list

[sonic pasture]

Ok

I’m trying a more rgb and white theme

[still bay]

ok

give me 2 mins

[uneven mist]

hopefully my 650 is enough

[cloud oasis]

Are all x570 and b550 mobos compatible with 5000 series

[uneven mist]

yea

i believe

[still bay]

yes

@sonic pasture whats ur budget

[sonic pasture]

Umm around 1k

1000-1200

[still bay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRCgBc this is a pretty good build might be a tad over ur budget tho so idk

i recommedn u get someone else to weigh in on it tho

[sonic pasture]

Ok

[astral swift]

90$ for only 16 gigs of ram? you can get cheaper

[little osprey]

But is it quality ram

[stoic island]

it's what RGB costs you

[still bay]

yeah crucial ballistix is one of the best and its rgb

if u dont want rgb u can save moeny

[stoic island]

75$ gets you non-rgb

[astral swift]

^

[still bay]

yes

[hollow warren]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-oc-thicc-iii-ultra-amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6391343.p?skuId=6391343

should i get?

its my last part

i have everything else

and i dont wanna wait for the cards to get back in stock

[still bay]

eh

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtgaming-8gd-rev-2-0/p/N82E16814932338?item=N82E16814932338&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-video+cards+-+amd%2Fati-_-N82E16814932338&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRqRdBUNFKJ-iJ81cqe56bOLHOTalwtPyYNkm6fatAbSGpsw4CHL20YaAkjTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[hollow warren]

is that one better

?

[still bay]

let me look at their clock speeds

the one u linked is better

[hollow warren]

so should i but it

buy it

[still bay]

ask someone else idk

graphic cards are weird idk

[weak field]

its a good card

chomk heatsink, 3fans and fast clock speeds. what more could you ask for

[hollow warren]

so i should?

@weak field

[weak field]

depends if your ready

to spend 400$

but i would

[hollow warren]

ok yeah im ready

i was just wondering becuase everyone was saying that i should just wait and wait but im done waiting lol

[quasi snow]

Yeah I mean something won't come to that price range until the rumored 3060 in january at the earliest and if it's anything like these releases it'll be a few months before you can get that

5700xt is a solid purchase for sure

[hasty gyro]

is there any worth in going for a 3700x over a 3600

[little osprey]

@hollow warren i bought 8 recently good card

and ur on 1080p right?

if so no point for a 6700

[hasty gyro]

are you talking to yapsy?

[little osprey]

yes

[hasty gyro]

can i ask you a question

[little osprey]

what gpu

[hasty gyro]

all i wanna know is if its worth going for a 3700x over a 3600

just gonna be mostly gaming and doing school work, and maybe a little coding too

[little osprey]

what gpu do you have tho

[hasty gyro]

going for a 5700xt

[little osprey]

3600

[hasty gyro]

okay thanks

[little osprey]

coding likes ram more than cpu

[hasty gyro]

didnt really think the jump was that important

yeah

i went with 16

[cloud oasis]

If ur gonna buy 3700x

[hasty gyro]

never really considered 32

[little osprey]

2x8? or 1x16

[hasty gyro]

2 x 8

[cloud oasis]

I would get 5600

[hasty gyro]

oh yeah the 5000 series chips

isnt it 300 usd?

[little osprey]

yeah lol

[cloud oasis]

yep

[hasty gyro]

lol

[cloud oasis]

Same price as 3700x

[hasty gyro]

should i go 32 gb kit instead of 16 gb kit for ram?

[cloud oasis]

n0

[little osprey]

paired with a 5700 xt i don't see the point lol (5600)

do you already have the ram?

[cloud oasis]

Unless ur like hardcore coding

[hasty gyro]

no

[cloud oasis]

Im talking 4 programs open

[hasty gyro]

no im not hardcore coding

no

[cloud oasis]

Java and python at the same time

[little osprey]

you could do 2x16

[hasty gyro]

just java

[cloud oasis]

16gb is fine then

[little osprey]

more upgradability and it'll run faster than 4x8

[hasty gyro]

oh is single channel faster than dual channel?

[cloud oasis]

no

Just get 2x8 ram cl16

Gskill

[hasty gyro]

yeah thats what i was going for

also

[cloud oasis]

Should be like 70$

[hasty gyro]

3600 vs 3600x

[cloud oasis]

5600x

lolz

[hasty gyro]

is there really a difference

the 3700x i was looking at was like 60$ off thats why i was considernig it

[cloud oasis]

Oh

[hasty gyro]

yeah

5600x is 400 cad

cheapest

[cloud oasis]

3600x then

[hasty gyro]

dont wanna jump that high

[cloud oasis]

Or 3600

[hasty gyro]

whats the different between 3600 and the 3600x thouugh

[cloud oasis]

3600x not good value

[hasty gyro]

yeah but what if its the same price lmao

[cloud oasis]

unless you find it at the same price

[hasty gyro]

i did

[cloud oasis]

Then 3600x

Ez choice

[hasty gyro]

what are its advantages

besides having a higher tdp

lmao

like does it have a small performance boost?

[cloud oasis]

Search up benchmarks

[weak field]

pst

3600x cheaper than 3600 rn

by like 15$

[hasty gyro]

whats pst

sorry if thats dumb to ask

[arctic jungle]

@bright hearth

Here

[bright hearth]

helo

ok where were we

[little osprey]

mans trying to tell me what bottlenecks and what doesn't

sksksksk

[arctic jungle]

@timber moat go away

[little osprey]

haHa

didnt even ping the right guy

[bright hearth]

i think a 3600 would bottleneck tho

lmao

[arctic jungle]

It wouldn't

[little osprey]

on a 3070 yes especially on 1080p

[arctic jungle]

@bright hearth dms

[little osprey]

bro theres literally a 0.5% bottleneck on 1440p with the 2080ti when the 3600 is overclocked

not dms

[cloud oasis]

Theres always a bottleneck

[arctic jungle]

I'll explain

[little osprey]

and hes on 1080p

so it'll be alot worse

[bright hearth]

i was just trynna see how good black friday deals would be at microcenter lol

[earnest olive]

what game are you playing at 165hz?

[vital warren]

with a r5 3600 and 2080ti on 1080p you'd be fine

[weak field]

yes

there confusing you rice

[little osprey]

yeah because ur FPS would be exceeding 240 anyways

what im saying is theres no point for a 3070 over a 3060

on 1080p 165

[weak field]

barely a bottleneck lose 2-4fps on 1080p and basically none in 1440p

[earnest olive]

okay so where exactly do you propose to buy a 3060

[weak field]

its just rumors

[earnest olive]

and what's wrong with buying a slightly overkill card to last a few years

[weak field]

nothing

agreed?

agreed

[earnest olive]

3060 is literally nothing but a rumor right now lol not everyone wants to wait however many months for a chance to refresh for it

you could argue for a used 2070 super or 1080ti

[weak field]

the time the 3060 is rumored to drop

[earnest olive]

but i don't think a 3060 is a valid argument

[little osprey]

he has a 2060 rn

[weak field]

is the time 3070 80 and 90 will maybe have stable stock

[little osprey]

antago wanted him to return for a 3070

[weak field]

and your deterring him

[earnest olive]

okay? and how much did he pay for the 2060

[little osprey]

its a ko so probably the 279-260

to actually utilize the 3070 performance he would need to buy a new monitor

that puts less money into other parts

theres no point

at all

[earnest olive]

what if he wants to hit 165 fps at 1080p ultra with full ray tracing in cyberpunk

you telling me a 2060 will do that

[stoic island]

heh

[earnest olive]

i used a 1080ti for 1080p144 high settings gaming and it was starting to not be enough with no ray tracing

[weak field]

no you dont have to get a new monitor

they can play fine with a 165hz

[little osprey]

did u read what i said?

[stoic island]

RTX be hefty

[little osprey]

at all

[weak field]

on ultra itll just cap it at 165

[earnest olive]

yes i did read what you said

[little osprey]

you would literally need a 360hz monitor to close kermit

[stoic island]

@little osprey I disagree, you can take advantage of 3070 perf at 1080p.

[little osprey]

not u bleach man

[earnest olive]

did you read what i said?

[weak field]

no you dont?

anything else is fine

could play on 60hz if you wanted

[little osprey]

wot

[earnest olive]

i don't think even the 3070 would be enough to play cyberpunk at 165fps minimum with 1080p ultra full ray tracing

let alone games 3 years from now

[little osprey]

they aren't just gonna stop optimizing games

[earnest olive]

they also aren't gonna stop taking advantage of more powerful hardware

[little osprey]

more cpu based than gpu

[weak field]

no?

[little osprey]

cool my msg didnt send

[earnest olive]

tell me if a flagship 1080ti from 2017 can max out games at 1080p165 today

[stoic island]

@little osprey look at rdr2

1080p btw

3080 gets 152fps

[earnest olive]

you wanna know what fps my 1080ti was getting in metro exodus 1080p maxed out?

32

[little osprey]

thats red dead bro

[stoic island]

mhm

[little osprey]

it was literally a console port over

[stoic island]

it's a game

that's out right now

[little osprey]

like what

[earnest olive]

it's a 1080p game

[weak field]

red dead is hard to run

[stoic island]

sooo

[earnest olive]

you can't make excuses to call it not a 1080p game

lol

it's a game running at 1080p

[stoic island]

is cod not a PC game now?

[little osprey]

its literally a console port over

[stoic island]

because it was on console?

[little osprey]

it was built to run on a different os

[stoic island]

it's still a game is it not?

[weak field]

no?

[little osprey]

cod was built to run on both OS

[stoic island]

the point isn't "oh PC only games"

we're just talking games

[earnest olive]

i feel i am wasting time talking to a brick wall here

[stoic island]

that's on PC

RDR2 is on PC

[weak field]

yes

[little osprey]

red dead was a ported over

[stoic island]

So?

it's a game

[weak field]

no it wasnt

[stoic island]

that's on PC

that people want to play

[earnest olive]

he's just committed to shaming other people for disagreeing with him lol

[weak field]

trying to prove a dead point

[earnest olive]

i am not gonna bother, you guys have fun if you wish

[stoic island]

bai bleach

I'll carry on for a bit

[weak field]

peace mizan

[earnest olive]

the 3070 cannot even max out all games at 1080p165 today

[stoic island]

mhm

[earnest olive]

that's all there is to say

[stoic island]

not to say anything about the future

[weak field]

some games

not all

[arctic jungle]

Is the mando guy gone?

Ok good

I'm safe phew

[cloud oasis]

@little osprey

[arctic jungle]

Did someone tell him the 3060 doesn't exist yet

[stoic island]

nah

[weak field]

[arctic jungle]

Why pinggggg

Noooo

Now he's gonna come back

[stoic island]

lol

[arctic jungle]

Warning us about the dangers of bottlenecks when you pair a 3070 with a 3600 instead of using an imaginary 3060

[earnest olive]

i see an opportunity to buy a 5800x locally for close to msrp+tax... tempting but i want a 5600x

[arctic jungle]

O

NOoO

[stoic island]

hm

[arctic jungle]

@earnest olive u can scalp it

[stoic island]

5800x msrp is weird msrp tho

[earnest olive]

unfortunately i have morals

[arctic jungle]

Lolllll

same doe

[earnest olive]

these morals really are a pesky thing

they get in the way all the time

[arctic jungle]

I mean you can buy it and sell it to someone as a gift

Like

[weak field]

forget them

on your way to pick it leave them at home

[arctic jungle]

'your gift is to get a 5800x at msrp'

Now pay up

[weak field]

[earnest olive]

i could buy it and look to trade for a 5600x + cash but i don't like uncertainty

[weak field]

deal

[arctic jungle]

Yeah no that's a bit sketch

I would do that tho if I had a 5600x

[earnest olive]

it's a sealed box

[weak field]

you did

[arctic jungle]

And cash

[weak field]

i take from mailman

tell him have chocolate

[arctic jungle]

you did
@weak field I did?

[earnest olive]

that's a lot of money to bet on an uncertainty though

[weak field]

hm

[hasty gyro]

im tempted to get an aio for a 3600 because itll look better and be more slick

[arctic jungle]

Ik

[hasty gyro]

am i crazy

[weak field]

nah

[arctic jungle]

No

Ur same

Sane

[weak field]

perfectly fine

[earnest olive]

i bought a 360mm for a 3600x mostly for looks

[hasty gyro]

oh damn

[earnest olive]

but it's also quieter than my old cm 212 while studying

[weak field]

280 so awkard

[earnest olive]

so i consider it worth the price

[hasty gyro]

i was thinking 240mm but okay lol

[weak field]

studying?

[earnest olive]

quiet operation is priceless

[hasty gyro]

alright thanks

yeah i agree

plus

[arctic jungle]

@hasty gyro just try avoiding spending more than 120$ plz, get a 240 mm to save money

[hasty gyro]

yk

overclocking

[earnest olive]

paid $130 for it

eh

[hasty gyro]

yeah i will

[weak field]

dont they rev up more when there not in full use

[hasty gyro]

hoping to pay $100

[earnest olive]

my cm 212 was already able to max out its overclocking potential

just louder and higher temp

4.2ghz 1.25V

[arctic jungle]

@hasty gyro if you can wait 8 hours, I'll send you a link to a good one for that price

I'm in bed

And sleepy so I can't rn

@hasty gyro mk?

[hasty gyro]

okay

[earnest olive]

85C on cm 212, 70C on 360mm aio, but aio quieter at max load

[hasty gyro]

dm it to me

ill add you

[bright hearth]

sipping bleach

[arctic jungle]

Also plz nick urself something other than genocide @hasty gyro

[bright hearth]

sounds fun

[hasty gyro]

yeah i will

[earnest olive]

i don't think my fan curves are even maxed at 70C

[arctic jungle]

No need for dm either

[hasty gyro]

there

[arctic jungle]

I'll drop you ping

Ty

[hasty gyro]

okay

remember my name

yeah i gotta change my name

[earnest olive]

it was quite amusing when someone was flaming me here for top mounted rad because somehow it would murder my temps

[arctic jungle]

Ye I have it saved

[earnest olive]

and i showed him my cpu resting at 43C while gaming

[hasty gyro]

okay thanks

and also, gn man

thanks

[arctic jungle]

Np

it was quite amusing when someone was flaming me here for top mounted rad because somehow it would murder my temps
@earnest olive you need diagonally sideways and upwards tilted rad for best performancr

If it isn't diagonally sideways and upwards tilted ur not getting the most performance out of it

[earnest olive]

actually for best performance i mount my rad directly to my chest so i can become one with my PC

[weak field]

[mystic needle]

should i be going for the radeon rx 6800 xt or just the 6800? like is it worth the extra money?

[balmy patio]

they compared the 6800 to a 2080ti, it beat it, they compared the 6800xt to a 3080, and beat it, so yeah i think it's worth the extra money if you have the extra money

[weak field]

psh

[little osprey]

how mcuh more efficent are laptops motherboards vs desktops motherboards?

[weak field]

id check in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[little osprey]

what chat would be best to ask about ram things?

[fervent quail]

What kind of things?

[little osprey]

questions about "laptop" and "desktop" ram

[sharp tundra]

Why is the NZXT H1 not on PCPP?

I'm sad

[still bay]

Because NZXT cases suck

[jolly turret]

Looking at getting either an 2700x or a 3700x
Just wondering what the difference is cause I am leaning more to 2700x due to price
I have all my other parts i have a b450m motherboard

I have a 2070s and I mainly game but do a bit of rendering on the side so that's why I want 8 cores
I don't really mind having a lower frame rate just want more bang for my buck

[south jungle]

Can someone please tell me if my friend can do better on his build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C6pN68

[balmy patio]

what's his budget

[south jungle]

I think 2k

Iirc

Maybe 1.5k

[balmy patio]

what does he need it for

[south jungle]

He does streaming and gaming simultaneously. Along with vtubing

[balmy patio]

ohhh okok got it

will see if i can edit the list to fit his needs

[south jungle]

Okay sure

The GPU is undecided currently

[balmy patio]

i would get a nvidia card since i heard that the encoder is pretty sweet for streamers (if that's what its called)

[south jungle]

Good to know I'll be sure to mention that to him

Since 30 series are not available for who knows how long what would you recommend?

[balmy patio]

ok this is what i came up with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfcmDc the case is something i personally like, i'm sure you can find one that's more fitting for your friend

and if you can't get your hands on a 3070 use something like a 2060 as a temporary

[south jungle]

We opted for the 3900X because the 5000x series are just like the gpus at the moment

[balmy patio]

yeah well the 3900x isn't really that needed for streaming

[idle hawk]

yo

[balmy patio]

something like a 3700x would be fine if you wanna spend 300 bucks on a cpu and cant get your hands on a 5600x

what's up joker

long time no see

[idle hawk]

having ptsd from valorant

[balmy patio]

smh

[idle hawk]

i cant get out of bronze

[south jungle]

Well I mean he's gonna be doing more than just that sometimes he might be doing some animation or something like that

3D

[balmy patio]

i mean a 3700x would still be fine with that kind of workload

[little osprey]

yeah and streaming the cpu doesn't even matter due to Nvenc

[south jungle]

Yeah probably

What nvenc

[balmy patio]

oh thats what its called

the encoding thing i told you about

[south jungle]

Oh gotcha

So it's handled by mainly the GPU now?

[versed maple]

any fast 500gb ssd nvme cheap ?

[south jungle]

No

[little osprey]

does he care about overclocking? if not the stock cooler is just fine and is actually a really good aesthetic in most PCs

[south jungle]

I mean probably not

[south jungle]

He wants to go the AIO Cooler route

[little osprey]

would be something like this but not an O11d

[balmy patio]

tony, the team mp34 512gb, adata sx8200 pro 512gb, western digital sn750 500gb are the usual ones we recommend

and yeah the wraith rgb cooler looks nice

[south jungle]

He might want 2 m.2 ssd

[little osprey]

no

no point

[balmy patio]

^^

[little osprey]

you won't ever fill 1TB

an ssd and a hard drive for backups and games you don't want to be fast

[balmy patio]

just get a 1tb nvme drive and IF you need more storage jus go with a 2tb hdd

[little osprey]

so does he want flashy lights?

[balmy patio]

i think he does want flashy lights

[little osprey]

because i am very good at flashy lights

[south jungle]

What should the ssd save?

[balmy patio]

thx mando, i am not very good at flashy lights

i hate wiring the wires for flashy lights

[little osprey]

32GB ram or 16

eh 126

16

he can upgrade

[versed maple]

the Western Digital SN750 or the Sabrent Rocket Q ?

[south jungle]

16

[versed maple]

500gb *

[little osprey]

ooo i found identical ram but flashy light

[south jungle]

Is ram more important than CPU for streaming?

[balmy patio]

ooo

[little osprey]

ram dont matter for streaming

[south jungle]

What does then?

The GPU?

[little osprey]

nothing

you have Nvenc encoding

it puts no load on anything

[balmy patio]

what does matter is your upload speed too

as in internet upload speeds

[south jungle]

Yes

[versed maple]

the Western Digital SN750 or the Sabrent Rocket Q ? 500gb ?

[south jungle]

1st

[balmy patio]

tony just get a mp34 if you're looking for a cheap and reliable drive

[little osprey]

does the TD500 come with fans?

or no

because those fans are cringe