building-and-recc-chat

[languid cedar]

f

f

wtf

[whole harbor]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE rx580 is worse than a 1650 super

[fleet pagoda]

🥱😞

[stoic island]

tbh I'll prob trigger so many people if I made a 3100+3070 list

[whole harbor]

BAHAHAHAHAHA

[languid cedar]

why did that send 4 times

[weak field]

ilk

[languid cedar]

so i should get a 3070 and go a little over budget?

[whole harbor]

yes

[sinful hornet]

yes

[whole harbor]

The rx580

Sucks butt

[weak field]

depends how tight

budget is

[languid cedar]

e

esh

1k

[sinful hornet]

wow uh

[weak field]

11 hunnid

[stoic island]

lemme edit my list actually

it's a bit weird rn

[languid cedar]

ok let me see what my dumbass can do

[weak field]

👍

[whole harbor]

imma just help out jn this chat like 3-5 times a week

And learn

So i dont ever get a rx 580 in a $1000 build

LOLOL

[stoic island]

a bit better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7cJKp2

[sinful hornet]

dayum ok

[languid cedar]

is founder edittion good?

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydw2mk
destroy me for this

[whole harbor]

@languid cedar yes

[weak field]

no better than standard

[languid cedar]

hahahah

[weak field]

depends how deep u look

[languid cedar]

i was tired

and i made dis

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWfGGq

[stoic island]

@weak field not too bad, swap cpu+mobo to 3100+b550 imo, 2060 model is overpriced, case is... eh, get a EVGA BA 500w for cheaper for PSU

there's a cheaper 3600c18 kit

[weak field]

i meant destroy me

dont tell me to fix it

i want the list to be bad

[still roost]

dulvn#1815 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sinful hornet]

hmmm yes

[stoic island]

oh

you want to break it more?

one sec

[whole harbor]

bruh i rlly said fword dumby

I was gonna use the dumb@ss

To get away

But i typed the f word smh

[weak field]

i made a 97k list yestey

[whole harbor]

Im sondunb

[weak field]

deleted

[languid cedar]

fck

[whole harbor]

BRUH

[languid cedar]

i can say that

[whole harbor]

Send the list

[languid cedar]

like

bruh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWfGGq

that should be censored

i should be banned for this

[eager flower]

This isnt the worssst

oh

the ram

[languid cedar]

watchu want wit ma ram

oh

[weak field]

yeh mate

[eager flower]

The PC isnt bad, the value is lmao

[languid cedar]

3k for ram

jeez

[weak field]

oi you got a prolum

[languid cedar]

it needs more rgb

[weak field]

i ought smac u up wit da stal crumpit fo dat mate

[stoic island]

@weak field this is pretty destroyed by my standards, enjoy! >:D
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2dp6rr

[eager flower]

skunked

[languid cedar]

i gut to go

[eager flower]

Ah yes, CL22

[grim raptor]

1500 budget any suggestions

[sinful hornet]

3070

[stoic island]

@grim raptor https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/HhWv3C

[grim raptor]

??? except @stoic island i know

[narrow rose]

how can it be CL22.... lol

[stoic island]

@narrow rose looks like early ddr4 days silicon

[eager flower]

not a bad build

Should I go for a tb NVME or a 500gb nvme + 2 TB HDD

[stoic island]

we are not you

we don't know what you want to store

[eager flower]

uh

videos

yeah

so probably the second option lmao

[sinful hornet]

there ya go

[eager flower]

lemme see if my mobo has support for two nvme slots

[stoic island]

answered ya own question :D

[whole harbor]

Rate the build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mj3PXb

@stoic island

@weak field

If say its pretty decent

[weak field]

decent ig

[stoic island]

1/10, not enough noctua fans

[whole harbor]

Ok can u fix it

[eager flower]

Eh it needs more crucial ram

[whole harbor]

[narrow rose]

even those 64g sticks dont have a 22 case latency

[fleet pagoda]

Is 27inch monitor to small for 1440p

[eager flower]

how do I check the latency on my ram?

[fleet pagoda]

Or does it matter

[narrow rose]

@eager flower timings in bios, the sticker on the ram, sales invoice, packaging the ram came in....

[stoic island]

work with Noctua

https://noctua.at/en/industrial-applications

[eager flower]

Its a laptop, Ill check the latency through bios

[narrow rose]

@fleet pagoda size doesnt really matter for 1440p other than going with too large of a display and 27" is not too large

[whole harbor]

Ill build this for $1000

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h63PXb

If u can afford this u can afford $1000

To pay me

[narrow rose]

@eager flower if you have the laptop serial number or whatever you could look it up

[whole harbor]

[eager flower]

Ill see

Eh Im too lazy to get the box, ill just get to the BIOS, gotta check some stuff anyways

[narrow rose]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h63PXb
@whole harbor I dont think that is going to fit in that case lol

[sharp tundra]

Someone wanna rate my Aorus Build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hz8GLP

[whole harbor]

@narrow rose its good

[little osprey]

Gigabyte makes all that?

[eager flower]

Attempt to boot into bios #1: fail

[sharp tundra]

And aorus

[eager flower]

posts too fast ill do another method

[sharp tundra]

So yeah, Gigabyte

[narrow rose]

no gigabyte case fans 😦

[cursive wharf]

no gigabyte CPU

😦

[sharp tundra]

They don't make em 😩

Also, if I was to build this, I don't know if I would keep the c300

I haven't heard a soul say that the airflow is good

But I also haven't heard anyone say it wasnt

[narrow rose]

need to buy a bunch of aorus cpu coolers and steal the fans off them

[sharp tundra]

Right?

Lol

I'm sure if you talked with Aorus, they'd send them to you, or find out what brand actually makes them, and buy those and throw a sticker on em

[narrow rose]

lol true

[sharp tundra]

We know they aren't noctuas, so we can eliminate them

Also, those fans are exhaust fans only

So maybe not what you wanna have a bunch of

[eager flower]

I can check my ram, but not it’s speed or CL, where do I find that?

[sharp tundra]

Online

Newegg

[eager flower]

No like in my laptop lmao

[sharp tundra]

Oh

Idk

[narrow rose]

@sharp tundra I also dont understand the 256g drive is that just for the rgb?

[sharp tundra]

Yeah, I put it on so I could have rgb

Id also put the os and other stuff on there too

[narrow rose]

cause its like it cant even be for windows since the 2tb is faster lol

[deep skiff]

buy a better ssd and slap a glow stick on it there rgb

[sharp tundra]

Well, if I can take the rgb cover off that stick and put it on the 2tb I would

[balmy patio]

or jus kidnap sum fire flies

smear their bodies on the drive for temporary rgb

[narrow rose]

only official aorus fireflys TM

[balmy patio]

^^

[sharp tundra]

Lol

It just started snowing again 😑

[whole harbor]

Does amd create the mbs?

[sharp tundra]

No

[narrow rose]

not really

[whole harbor]

What company

[narrow rose]

they help with the design

[whole harbor]

Comes up with them

[sharp tundra]

Any and all?

[narrow rose]

amd gives guidelines and third parties build/design them

[whole harbor]

How do they declare the name tho

Lul

[sharp tundra]

The chip set name?

[narrow rose]

same way nvidia has lots of people make their GPUs

[whole harbor]

idk like

B550

Z390

how do they choise that

Is there a story

[sharp tundra]

Just whatever they come up with ig

[whole harbor]

Or just cause

[sharp tundra]

Features are mapped out by chip name

And what it can support

[narrow rose]

there is never any rhyme or reason to names in the tech industry

[sharp tundra]

Lile a b450 can't do zen 3

And an x570 has all the features

[narrow rose]

like if AMD called their next cpus Zen x the 100 series no one would even bat an eye

[sharp tundra]

The "ideal" mobo tho is an x570 with pcie 4.0

And wifi, but like, every x570 board has wifi

[eager flower]

Names are hard, I thought the x570 was an intel mobo for a loooong time

[whole harbor]

Why are they dropping am4 again

?

they could just keep it 😦

[sharp tundra]

I think intel uses Z and A?

[narrow rose]

oh yeah they like to do that x299 x470 z370 b450 who knows whats going on

x299 is intel

[sharp tundra]

Oh

Maybe just the number layout then

Idk honestly, I only care about x570 and b550

[narrow rose]

just arbitrary letter and numbers

like when I say a 480 gpu what do I mean

could be nvidia or amd

[sharp tundra]

Idk

Did you see my gpu nil?

It finally came in

[eager flower]

apparently my laptop has 3GB of vram for mygpu, but everything else says 6

odd

[narrow rose]

nice @sharp tundra

[sharp tundra]

Kinda wish I got a aorus one tho

[narrow rose]

I was expecting the 3070 from the list but still nice

[sharp tundra]

Nah, thats a wish list

[narrow rose]

its a good card

[sharp tundra]

That'll be my next build

Or a full corsair build

I haven't decided

I love both so much

[narrow rose]

I have a close to EVGA build but not on purpose

[sharp tundra]

I don't like evga

They don't make good looking parts imo

[eager flower]

Nilboggen I can'tfind my cas latency izn the BIOS or on the manufacturors site, any other suggestions?

[narrow rose]

what is the laptop manufacturers code or whatever on the sticker on the laptop

I can look it up

model number

thats what I was grasping for model number

[eager flower]

gp62mvr 7rfx leopard pro

fromn msi

[narrow rose]

@sharp tundra I dont mind the way the 2080ti looks and the aio is actually nice looking and their lights sync

[sharp tundra]

Yeah, I'm leaning towards the corsair build first cause all my peripherals are gonna be corsair, and I like matching things

[narrow rose]

@eager flower DDR4 PC4-19200 • CL=17 • Single Ranked • x8 based • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR4-2400 • 1.2V • 1024Meg x 64 17-17-17-17

[eager flower]

ah worse than it hought, ty

[narrow rose]

np

[sharp tundra]

Geez, The strix is a big boi

[eager flower]

yeah thats massive jeez

[narrow rose]

sure is long

[sharp tundra]

😉

[idle hawk]

lil chungus

[narrow rose]

mine takes 3 slots though

[idle hawk]

lolol

thats lil chungus nilboggen

what he got

@sharp tundra nomad welcome to the world of bigger cards lmao jk

[sharp tundra]

Size comparison to the rest of my stuff

[narrow rose]

lol

[idle hawk]

is that a itx board?

[narrow rose]

yeah

[idle hawk]

oof

its tiny

[stoic island]

uh

does that not say b450m pro4

making it a mATX case

[idle hawk]

i didnt see that till

i opened the picture

[narrow rose]

yeah I didnt look at it

[idle hawk]

lol

[narrow rose]

just a little wider than an itx

[merry badger]

I got a 1080ti ftw3 in my 280x

[narrow rose]

nice'

[merry badger]

300mm and like 20mm of clearance

thank god it fit

[idle hawk]

decent price

[merry badger]

height wise I can just barely squeeze in my pcie connectors

touching the glass, but if they are in they are in

[idle hawk]

i needed a new case for my 3080

[narrow rose]

too be fair case makers didnt know how crazy GPUs were going to get

[idle hawk]

no not to be fair lmao

jk

[narrow rose]

I remember having trouble getting my gtx480 in my antec case of some kind back in the day

had to cut some of the drive cages with a dremel since they were welded in there

[balmy patio]

you jus made diypc bankrupt with your idea smh niboggen

[narrow rose]

looks nice very clean

[merry badger]

gotta fix pcie cables

other than that I think I did a decent job

[idle hawk]

It's nice

[merry badger]

my first (technically 2nd) build so I kinda knew what I was doing

[narrow rose]

want to see mine its like a horror show inside?

[merry badger]

kinda worried about sag though, does it look fine?

[narrow rose]

yeah it looks good

[merry badger]

@narrow rose sure

[narrow rose]

its rough

No window lol

[merry badger]

at least the gpu is great

[merry badger]

looks niceeeee

[balmy patio]

bruh joker why didnt you route your cables through the bottom smh

[narrow rose]

see if you dont have a window.....

[merry badger]

I will personally go for an h100i when I get the chance

mostly for aesthetics

[idle hawk]

JOE

[merry badger]

and also because I live in texas and it is damn hot here

[balmy patio]

hahahah

[idle hawk]

i wish shiv you

[merry badger]

@narrow rose that's the trick

no need to spend hours on cable management when you just don't have to look at it

[narrow rose]

and even though you cant tell the rgb on the cooler and gpu match as they cycle even though you have to take the lid off to see it

[merry badger]

mhm

[balmy patio]

yeah, you should see the back side of joker's build, according to him its a rats nest and honestly it shouldnt matter if you're not looking at it 24/7

[narrow rose]

worst thing is I bought a nice case and custom loop stuff and have been putting it off for like a year now

now I rationalize it because the 8700k is too old to be custom cooling lol

@idle hawk hows that 3080 treating you? it looks great

like the little display

[idle hawk]

shes a monster

small problem tho

[merry badger]

I personally won't upgrade till 4xxx series cause I just got my 1080ti in there, still a beast and will be my baby for the next 2 years

@idle hawk and what would that problem be?

[idle hawk]

im using an outdated driver

[merry badger]

ohhh

[idle hawk]

455.56

[sharp tundra]

I think AMD already talked about their rx7000 and r6000 series so you might wanna plan for sooner @merry badger

[narrow rose]

had a new driver for nvidia yesterday i think

[merry badger]

I'm keeping this for 2 years at least, then we upgrade or build a new system

[narrow rose]

yeah 1080ti is still a great card

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fgpC68 rate for GTA V?

[narrow rose]

457.30 was 11/09/20

[little osprey]

Budget is as close to $600 as possible

[idle hawk]

im using that driver cause of gigabyte

[narrow rose]

@little osprey for GTA V its an A+

[little osprey]

👍

[merry badger]

I'm on 457.09

[balmy patio]

@little osprey i'd get a b550 board, reliable ones normally go for 80-100 bucks

[little osprey]

Someome ik is trying to get an Acer laptop that's an i5, 8gb ram, 1650, and 256gb for $600

[narrow rose]

@idle hawk LOL its not for the screen is it?

[merry badger]

update it now? any issues with the most recent one?

[idle hawk]

yes

lmaooo

[narrow rose]

I knew it

[idle hawk]

the software wont dectet the card

[little osprey]

🤣🤣🤣 @narrow rose I forgot to add a psu

[narrow rose]

lol yeah I noticed I figured you were just using an old one

[ebon cedar]

So I have a 3600 and I was wondering what GPU I should pair up with it since my 970 just died. Should I wait and try to get a next gen 3000/6000 series card or get something now that is now outdated

[little osprey]

....

I bought a asrock taichi + 5700xt

[balmy patio]

@ebon cedar a 3070 would be ideal

[twilit idol]

Have you guys seen the 6800xt design?

[little osprey]

Y would I use a 1660?

[whole harbor]

@little osprey do u already have ram

[whole harbor]

?

[narrow rose]

@ebon cedar depends on what your budget is

[twilit idol]

Thats a beautiful gpu

[ebon cedar]

Budget is about $800 Canadian max

[little osprey]

I own a 5500xt, why would I get a 1660?

[whole harbor]

lol

[little osprey]

It's not even a 1660S

[whole harbor]

salvecai

Do u already have your ram?

[ebon cedar]

But I don’t wanna blow my budget just for the gpu to be bottlenecked by my cpu

[little osprey]

@whole harbor for someone else....let me guess I forgot that to...

[whole harbor]

yr

Ye

[little osprey]

Now I fell like an idiot

[whole harbor]

@little osprey $600 budget

[little osprey]

🤦‍♂️

[whole harbor]

What parts do uhave

[narrow rose]

I really like how the nvidia founders cards looked and thought they were way more out there on design

[whole harbor]

@little osprey

[arctic jungle]

@twilit idol that just looks bad

overcomplicated

[little osprey]

It's for someone else, not me

[twilit idol]

Bruh

It doesn’t

[little osprey]

@whole harbor mind if I dm you my current setup?

[balmy patio]

So I have a 3600 and I was wondering what GPU I should pair up with it since my 970 just died. Should I wait and try to get a next gen 3000/6000 series card or get something now that is now outdated
@ebon cedar do you have a list with you?

[ebon cedar]

A list? Lol

[balmy patio]

like what are you specs essentially

[merry badger]

why are there people selling used 1080tis and used 2070 supers for around 500 dollars when you can get a 3070 and why are people buying them

[ebon cedar]

Let me see I’ll pull it up

[balmy patio]

ight

[whole harbor]

@merry badger they scamming ppl provs

Cause they have no experience

[merry badger]

this man right here

exact same card I have

almost 500 dollars

[balmy patio]

a 1080ti cost like 700 bucks when it first released iirc

[merry badger]

yea but used they should be more like 300 now

[balmy patio]

but dang

[whole harbor]

is a used 1070 ti for $250 worth it?

[merry badger]

I got mine for 300, seems like a reasonable price

1070 ti is still a good card @whole harbor

[balmy patio]

a 3070 cost like 500 dollars, so thats not a great deal (for the 1080ti)

[merry badger]

I'd say for 250 yea

[whole harbor]

Ive been told that its not worth

[merry badger]

1070 ti for 1660 super price

[whole harbor]

U can get for cheaper

[merry badger]

try to lower it to like 225

[whole harbor]

Ive heard

[still roost]

Jacob B (jbontius)#9244 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[balmy patio]

bruh i only read a little bit

[ebon cedar]

@balmy patio ill pm

[balmy patio]

ok

[ebon cedar]

bot deleted it

[balmy patio]

lmao yeah ik

dumb mee6

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrhbK3
My current build

Keep in mind I'm still running an Asus rog strix 5500XT gpu

[whole harbor]

Sell the gpu

And get a better one

[sharp tundra]

I wanna put my cpu cooler on my mobo, but I don't have a case yet.

[green kestrel]

48 gigs of ram?

[little osprey]

Yeah best buy gave me wrong ram and I didn't care

[green kestrel]

i mean as long as it works

you're fine but

still odd

[little osprey]

Oh it does

[green kestrel]

have you checked what chip both of the modules have

[little osprey]

I ordered a second pair of the OLOy, but they gave me the corsair instead

@green kestrel nope

But they're running in sync perfectly fine

[whole harbor]

Salvecai dms

[little osprey]

Timing match and everything

[karmic bobcat]

OLOy worth it or nah?

[sharp tundra]

No

Unless you're poor

[karmic bobcat]

Personally they look funny to me

And the name is dumb

[little osprey]

They are totally worth it @sharp tundra

They're running on the same timing as the corsair vengeance

[karmic bobcat]

Anyways. Time to complain about my work hours

[sudden jolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3fR78J

I am thinking about my PC having parts like this and a Radeon RX 6800 or 6800 XT.

Also I need help finding a compatible motherboard and CPU cooler that would work good and wouldn’t be over priced.

Finally what do I do for the Compatibility issue for the motherboard that needs a bios update to run the 5600X. I mean that’s what PC Part Picker says and this is going to be my first PC so I can’t just do the bios update with an old CPU . IDK tho ...

[sharp tundra]

Yes, but there is differences that cause inefficiencies other than timing and speed

[little osprey]

7 am to 5 pm Monday to Friday are my work hours

[sharp tundra]

Having 2 different bramd sticks is gonna cause problems most of the time

[karmic bobcat]

Ok I’m back complaining over

7 am to 5 pm Monday to Friday are my work hours
@little osprey see I want something like that. Not where my hours are hinged on some wonky weekends

Like I go from working 16 hours this week to working just 12 the next. And it’s after someone quit also

[little osprey]

@sharp tundra the only issue I'm having is with my ssd's but to fix it I need a new mobo, but I'm not willing to go thru with that effort

@karmic bobcat I work on ATVs. As in repairing them

[karmic bobcat]

Now I told them I don’t mind working more hours and I’ll take the entry level pay for the time being. But that discussion I’m going to save for the mandatory staff meetings

That’s neat. I just work as a court monitor at a trampoline park

[little osprey]

It's just me and one other guy

And 50 ATVs that need fixing

[sharp tundra]

Are they the same voltage tho?

[little osprey]

Yep

[sharp tundra]

Exaxtly?

[little osprey]

Yep

Want a pic?

[sharp tundra]

Same speed, timing, and size?

[little osprey]

Everything but size

[sharp tundra]

That'll cause issues right there

[little osprey]

Two are 8gb 3200, 2 are 16gb 3200

[balmy patio]

@sudden jolt whats your budget?

[solar sigil]

@rustic sandal that build is gorgeous, jelly you got a 3080

[sudden jolt]

Around $1500 dollars can go up or down

@balmy patio

[green kestrel]

nice

[balmy patio]

okok i'll see if i make changes and will explain

[weak field]

[sudden jolt]

@balmy patio ok no problem thank you

[weak field]

[sharp tundra]

I got my specs in my name now

[weak field]

hrm

[kind solstice]

Build suggestion for Solidworks ,Catia etc for around $1500 cpu only or $2000 for full setup.

[little osprey]

@sharp tundra same

[weak field]

i have a “decent” one

could be better

but its waaaaay out of budget

1570$

[little osprey]

Wait.....$1500 cpu only?

[weak field]

😳

[little osprey]

What kinda cpu you getting? A thread ripper?

[sudden jolt]

?

Huh 🤔

[solar sigil]

i think hes saying without peripherals

maybe

[little osprey]

Re_Taekwando said "$1500 cpu only or $2000 for full setup"

[sudden jolt]

A very questionable thing

[weak field]

why u spending that much on a cpu, could buy a dog

i want a puppy now

[little osprey]

I'm reading that as the cpu costs $1500 everything else costs an additional $500

[weak field]

intel prices

[little osprey]

🤣

Truth

[sudden jolt]

@kind solstice what in gods name do you need a $1500 CPU for while everything else including peripherals cost $500

[kind solstice]

Wait.....$1500 cpu only?
@little osprey I meant cpu + motherboard + graphics +ram +ssd for $1500 and with accesories (monitor+keyboard +mouse) for $200

[sudden jolt]

I am hella confused

[weak field]

phew

[little osprey]

Ahhh ok

[sudden jolt]

@kind solstice ooooo

[little osprey]

That sounds SOOOO much better

[weak field]

i have a shmeh list

[kind solstice]

Sorryy my bad..

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ptyY9N @sudden jolt i added better ram, and i better i meant that i added ram that had lower cas latency, added a b550 mobo, a nvme drive that's faster than the p1, added in the 6800xt and changed the psu to a phanteks amp 750

[little osprey]

I almost had an aneurysm

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsHcbh terrible

[sudden jolt]

@balmy patio ok thank you very much I appreciate it

[balmy patio]

@sudden jolt theres also this option for the psu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[weak field]

i was tires dont judge me

[little osprey]

Btw, y'all should check out my newest post in #build-pics

That'll mess with yall

[weak field]

i should sleep

[little osprey]

Same^

[weak field]

breh

rip in pieces

rest in pieces i meant

[sudden jolt]

@balmy patio wait the motherboard is mini ATX in and ATX case

[weak field]

yeah

[little osprey]

@weak field I'm glad it didn't fry anything

[weak field]

value

lucky

[sudden jolt]

Everything thing else is beautiful in my opinion

[weak field]

lucky it wasnt one that held the motherboard in majorly

[balmy patio]

@balmy patio wait the motherboard is mini ATX in and ATX case
@sudden jolt it will be fine, most, if not all, atx cases support atx, mats, and itx mobo's

[little osprey]

@weak field nah, just held my OS NVME to my mobo

[balmy patio]

just make sure the stand-off's are correctly placed

[little osprey]

It was

It's been in there for 3 months now

[sudden jolt]

@balmy patio ok thank you
But it will it have any difference in anything

[little osprey]

And it just snapped in the middle of Destiny 2

[sudden jolt]

Or is it perfectly fine and makes 0 difference

[little osprey]

Mustve been a defective standoff

[balmy patio]

@sudden jolt be more specific in what you're trying to say

[kind solstice]

can anyone benchmark solidworks in system with ryzen 7 ??

[sudden jolt]

Should a mini ATX motherboard be bad in anyway compared to a regular ATX

[karmic bobcat]

@sudden jolt should? No. Limited? Yes.

[sudden jolt]

Is there any downgrades

But should mini ATX be fine or will ATX work better is my real question

[karmic bobcat]

You’ll still get your slots and all. But you won’t have more then 1 NVMe, limited sata, limited ram speed, but apart from that? Nah. You won’t notice it for a gamer

[sudden jolt]

Ok

[storm vigil]

I just wanna make sure I got this right. Wifi motherboards come with built in wireless wifi?

[little osprey]

Yes

[storm vigil]

Ok thanks

[little osprey]

👍

[sudden jolt]

This is going to be my first PC and I am coming from a cheap iPad that didn’t run games higher can 60 FPS all low settings and it only has 32 gbs of storage so I think I will be fine then right @karmic bobcat

[little osprey]

Tho I prefer them to not have built in wifi

[sudden jolt]

That one does have built in WiFi

[balmy patio]

yes, it does

[storm vigil]

Well I would choose it without built in wifi but it’s easier for me to get it with wifi rn

[little osprey]

There's nothing wrong with built in wifi, I just prefer them not to

[balmy patio]

they prob have the e-key slot occupied with a wifi card

[sudden jolt]

Also how does WiFi work with PC’s I know it shoulda dumb but ..

[balmy patio]

its jus wifi

you connect to it

[little osprey]

Like it does with everything else

[karmic bobcat]

This is going to be my first PC and I am coming from a cheap iPad that didn’t run games higher can 60 FPS all low settings and it only has 32 gbs of storage so I think I will be fine then right @karmic bobcat
@sudden jolt what’s your build?

[little osprey]

Does anyone even know how wifi even really works?

[balmy patio]

yeah sorta

[sudden jolt]

Like do I buy a router and connect the PC

[storm vigil]

Satellites

[karmic bobcat]

Internet go brrrrr

[storm vigil]

^

[little osprey]

@sudden jolt yeah you'll need wifi access

Aka a wifi router

Even for ethernet you'll need a wifi router

[storm vigil]

Yea this is the first pc I’m building lol. The only mistake I’ve made so far is I got a mobo too big for my case 😂

[little osprey]

But ethernet is you connected to router directly thru an ethernet cable

[storm vigil]

I returned it so it fine but yea

[hasty gyro]

What are the biggest downsides to a b450 board in comparison to a b550

[karmic bobcat]

It doesn’t have gen 4 lanes

[balmy patio]

no pci-e gen 4, no compatibility with future processors

[storm vigil]

@little osprey yea I would use an Ethernet cable but it would be a lot of work for me to buy it long enough and set it up from my room to the router

[little osprey]

I'll probably have a b550 and a 6800xt by april

[hasty gyro]

Would it be more wise to go for a b550 then

[karmic bobcat]

Just get another router and run a cable wire into your room

GG

Yes

Go with a B550

[hasty gyro]

Okay

[balmy patio]

or you can get a powerline adapter, that's a cheaper option

[karmic bobcat]

Yeah but that’s a mixed bag

Because it relies on current

[sudden jolt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ptyY9N @sudden jolt @karmic bobcat

[storm vigil]

@karmic bobcat omg how could I have been so 2Head

[karmic bobcat]

And it can either be 📈 or 📉

My only concern

Is that mobo

Because of the VRAMs

[sudden jolt]

Yeah that’s my only concern too

[karmic bobcat]

Just go with a B550 Tomhawk Wifi

[sudden jolt]

Crap got to go to bed talk to you tomorrow

:model

Ok

[storm vigil]

This is my first pc for around 800 dollars. Later on I’ll be upgrading it and someday I’ll have a better pc than my brother’s prebuilt which he always brags is better than what mine will be 😔

[little osprey]

TBH if prices fall enough I might get a 2080ti and go custom loop cooling with it and my cpu around april

Also, same here bed time

[hasty gyro]

Would the phantom gaming 4 pro from ASRock be okay as a b550 board

[karmic bobcat]

Bro I know someone who spent 1200 on a 8700 and a 1060 3GB

[balmy patio]

Would the phantom gaming 4 pro from ASRock be okay as a b550 board
@hasty gyro yes

[hasty gyro]

Okay

[storm vigil]

Alr night night guys

[karmic bobcat]

Gn

[little osprey]

Asrock is basically a sister company to Asus. It's basically Ford(Asrock) and Lincoln(Asus) only in this case Lincoln owns Ford

[balmy patio]

lmao

or you could've said toyota and lexus

[little osprey]

It's the same thing

[balmy patio]

bruh ford is america and toyota is japan, which is closer to where asrock and asus started off

smh

[little osprey]

And toyotas are better than ford

[balmy patio]

toyota's are more reliable tho

if you take care of em ofc

[next kestrel]

more affordabel

[little osprey]

Subaru the best tho

[balmy patio]

bruh the boxer engine is good but trash at the same time

ask away

dont ask to ask, just ask

how low is your budget?

and what are your needs

[normal osprey]

Anyone can help me build a pc?

Anyone trying to help me build my first pc ?**

[cursive wolf]

anyone can help me

?

[balmy patio]

make sure that your motherboard has a video output option, and that your cpu has integrated graphics

[normal osprey]

Got 1500-2000 $ budget

[balmy patio]

you looking for a list?

[cursive wolf]

umm i have a 9k budget

what

[balmy patio]

that's a whole lotta money

will see what i can do

[cursive wolf]

i have a list but can you check if it is a good build

[balmy patio]

sure

[cursive wolf]

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/QrBk9N

[normal osprey]

Yeah i needa list

1500-2000$

[cursive wolf]

i need a budget freindly pc

[normal osprey]

Also if you know any good monitors and MNK

[cursive wolf]

till 6k

and the rest i will use for games and pheripherals

what

ok

but i have to tell

it is not usd

it is qatari riyals

umm i just have one

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/RCkpHz

this one

see this one

it has all of this

[still roost]

jack peanut#7277 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[cursive wolf]

what

why

for on the go gaming and editing and streaming

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, I just seen how small the 3070 is, ita smaller than my 5600xt

[cursive wolf]

thats why i selected a powerful laptop also

what

in photos it looks like that

ok

[sharp tundra]

Huh?

[cursive wolf]

yeah

[sharp tundra]

No, the 3070 is smaller that a 2080ti

[cursive wolf]

what how

i think it is fake

[sharp tundra]

Like by a decent bit too

Uh no...

[cursive wolf]

ok

i dont know anything about pc building and stuff

i just watch videos of linus tech tips and austin evans

[sharp tundra]

Yeah man, rtx 3070 is tiny

[cursive wolf]

oh

ok

should i take the rtx 3080 or 3070

[sharp tundra]

Depends

[cursive wolf]

or 3090

ok

[sharp tundra]

Whatever you doing with it?

[cursive wolf]

so is there any problems in my build

and pc parts list

it has an ryzen 9 3900x

[sharp tundra]

What are you going to be doing with a 30series?

[cursive wolf]

csgo

gtav

rdr2

pubg pc

[sharp tundra]

You could've just said gaming

[cursive wolf]

ok

and also some editing

for my friends yt

[sharp tundra]

3070 or 3080 if you're just doing gaming

3090 if you're gonna be doing some serious editing

[fast sable]

wtf is this thing $?

XD

i only know this better money here £

[cursive wolf]

i do not do serious editing actually just some animations etc

[little osprey]

Tbh 3090 will be crazy expensive

[sharp tundra]

A 3080 might be good for you then

[little osprey]

It's a Titan branded card so ....

[cursive wolf]

my friends discord friend does the serious editing stuff

ok

yeah i dont want the 3090 it is to expensive

[sharp tundra]

A 3070 is what you get for casual gaming, a 3080 is what you get for more extreme gaming and editing, and 3090 is what you get for big workloads

[cursive wolf]

i think 3070 or the 3080 is good for mr

[little osprey]

I'd go 3070

[cursive wolf]

id go for 3080

[fast sable]

Even a 3070 is on the high end i wouldnt say its casual for most people

[little osprey]

Or go Radeon 6000 series, they're cheaper and supposed to out preform the 3080

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, 3070 is becoming the new casual

4k gaming at over 60fps?

Not a lot of cards can do that

[cursive wolf]

umm i only like the ryzen chipsets not the video cards

[balmy patio]

yeah at 500 bucks, it basically screams at you to buy it

[little osprey]

They'll have ray tracing too

[fast sable]

Maybe in a few months atm no i wouldnt say it is since ya know stock and just people affording it in gneral

[cursive wolf]

dude but even the rtx has ray tracing

[sharp tundra]

Duh

Hints the name rtx

[cursive wolf]

3080

[fast sable]

3070 defo worth the buy but if you can fit in budget 3080 is defo worth the upgrade for the performance you get to price

[little osprey]

Rtx stands for ray tracing @cursive wolf

[cursive wolf]

ok stop the video card talk

[sharp tundra]

You're the one who started it

Lol

[cursive wolf]

XD

[balmy patio]

and hes the one who stopping it

makes sense

[cursive wolf]

ok now i need cpu talk

[balmy patio]

go ahead

[fast sable]

ok stop the video card talk
@cursive wolf this is build chat lol

[cursive wolf]

what cpu you recommend

[fast sable]

Whats budget?

[sharp tundra]

Threadripper

[fast sable]

And what are you suing for?

[balmy patio]

threadrupper indeed

[cursive wolf]

dude thredripper is not for gaming

[balmy patio]

very fine choice

[fast sable]

dude thredripper is not for gaming
@cursive wolf Do you need a budget gaming cpu or?

[sharp tundra]

So?

[cursive wolf]

i need a budget gaming cpu

[balmy patio]

if hes looking into gaming and high-end video editing, amd wins with the 5900x and 5950x

[sharp tundra]

Theoretically you could still game on it

[fervent quail]

Anyone here used the ek classic kits? Looking at a custom loop for my next build but have no experience

[little osprey]

Get the 64 core thread ripper

Gaming

[balmy patio]

how much are you willing to spend on the cpu @cursive wolf

[cursive wolf]

is water cooling good though

[balmy patio]

it is good

[cursive wolf]

for the cpu

[balmy patio]

yes

[cursive wolf]

ok

[sharp tundra]

Lol

How much monies you got fool

We need to know

[balmy patio]

yes

[cursive wolf]

i think i will take the ryzen 9 3900X

9k

[balmy patio]

bruh go with a higher end cpu

[sharp tundra]

Good choice

[fast sable]

3600 is still a great choice 5600x will be a better choice once price drops in few months by about 50 less @cursive wolf

[sharp tundra]

You don't need a super high end cpu for gaming tho, most games aren't cpu heavy

[balmy patio]

yeah

[cursive wolf]

or the intel 9 10900k

[sharp tundra]

Eww

[balmy patio]

a 3100 is fine fore gameing

[sharp tundra]

No

[fast sable]

Thats not budget lmao

[sharp tundra]

Gross

[cursive wolf]

i dont need intel though

[sharp tundra]

Damn straight

[cursive wolf]

i am a ryzen guy

[sharp tundra]

Good stay that way

[balmy patio]

jus get the 5900x or 5950x at that budget

[fast sable]

Plus you could just get a 5900x which just makes the i9 10900k obsolete

[cursive wolf]

ok

[sharp tundra]

5900x is better for gaming

[fast sable]

Well unless the i9 10900k price drops drastically

[cursive wolf]

is the ryzen 9 5900x a thing

[sharp tundra]

Which it wont

[fast sable]

yes

[sharp tundra]

Yes

[cursive wolf]

ok

[fast sable]

5900x is a thing

[cursive wolf]

show me a picture from google of the box or something

[next kestrel]

go onto google images

[sharp tundra]

There's an amd cpu for every 100 numbers I think

Up to 5950

[next kestrel]

literally not that hard lmao

[fast sable]

just get a 5600x if you plan to get a i9 10900k or a 5900x if you have the extra cash

[cursive wolf]

umm

.....

ok

the 5600x is going into my list goodbye 3900x

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, I could build you a pc if you tell me what your budget is

Perfect for whatever you need

[cursive wolf]

dude 9k

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sharp tundra]

$9000?

USD?

[cursive wolf]

qatari riyals remember

[balmy patio]

oh bruvf

[cursive wolf]

not usd'

[balmy patio]

i thought that was another dude

with the qatar list

[cursive wolf]

i am not rich like you dudes

[sharp tundra]

What currency?

[balmy patio]

the one they use in qatar

[cursive wolf]

riyals

qatari riyals

that means QR

[balmy patio]

one rial is 27 cents usd

[fast sable]

What currency is that lmao

[sharp tundra]

Oh boi

[cursive wolf]

just build a pc

thats all

[balmy patio]

thats about a 2400 budget (not counting shipping and taxes)

[sharp tundra]

Bruv, thats $2500

Usd

[fast sable]

lMAO

At that budget just get a 5900x with a 3080 bam easy

[cursive wolf]

ok

[sharp tundra]

Defo

[still roost]

jack peanut#7277 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, could I have it?

[cursive wolf]

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/RCkpHz

[balmy patio]

ok lemme see if i can come up with a list for you jack

[cursive wolf]

just build the list for me

[fast sable]

Why have u put on 2 NVME drives of the same type as well when you could just get one 2TB NVME my head lol

[sharp tundra]

Dude, I don't think half the stuff your buying is available in your country

[cursive wolf]

why

[balmy patio]

i mean he can import it

[sharp tundra]

No price available

[balmy patio]

he has the option to do that i think

[latent storm]

hey so i already have a pc built but i have to move it between my moms and dads house every week and want to rebuild it in matx, is this good?

[balmy patio]

lemme see how much it'll cost

[cursive wolf]

yes i have

[latent storm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BVdZwz

[sharp tundra]

Where's the cpu and gpu?

[cursive wolf]

there is no cpu mother board or anything

[latent storm]

i already have that stuff

[balmy patio]

ok ill see

[cursive wolf]

oh

[sharp tundra]

Oh okay

[balmy patio]

ill add the prices it'll cost to import

[latent storm]

i just need a new case and mobo and psu

[cursive wolf]

ok

[latent storm]

i dont need the cooler but its a nice to have

[cursive wolf]

ok

u have the stock cooler right?

[balmy patio]

so a 2lb import is about 150 rial

[next kestrel]

@latent storm

no point going matx

[balmy patio]

ill see what i can do

[latent storm]

yeah jack, i have a 3600 and using the stock cooler rn

[next kestrel]

just go itx

[cursive wolf]

ok

[next kestrel]

the DLM21 mesh isnt very small

[latent storm]

ive only ever built one pc idk if i can handle itx

[cursive wolf]

maybe if you had a budget you could get a corsair h60

[next kestrel]

some itx cases are easy to build in

[sharp tundra]

@cursive wolf you ever been to an F1 race, Bahrain is like a walk a away from you

[latent storm]

do you have any recommendations?

[cursive wolf]

yes

[latent storm]

and what would i be sacrificing with itx?

[balmy patio]

jack do you care about rgb?

[cursive wolf]

Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case

yes

[balmy patio]

ok

[cursive wolf]

joe

ok

[next kestrel]

you'd be sacrificing little to none

[cursive wolf]

ok

[latent storm]

o11 dynamic isnt really itx lmao

[cursive wolf]

wait

ok

[next kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x7hmP6/nzxt-h210-mini-itx-tower-case-ca-h210b-w1

this case

[cursive wolf]

yes

[next kestrel]

it looks nice and is small

[cursive wolf]

i put that case

yes

[latent storm]

how would airflow be in that

cant imagine its that good

[next kestrel]

or NR200 if its in stock

it isnt as good as the DLM21 mesh

but its good enough for your specs

[cursive wolf]

ok

[latent storm]

i also do have intention to buy a 3080

[cursive wolf]

hey @latent storm

[latent storm]

whats up

[cursive wolf]

can you take a pic of your pc and show

[latent storm]

@next kestrel will that case fit a 3080?

[cursive wolf]

yes surely

[fast sable]

i also do have intention to buy a 3080
@latent storm if you plan to get a 3080 it would be a good idea to find the best airflow case to size possible

[sharp tundra]

@cursive wolf do you have peripherals?

[cursive wolf]

no

[sharp tundra]

Oh...

[cursive wolf]

i was about to ask that

[sharp tundra]

Then you may not be getting a 3080 and a 5900x

I'll still set you up good tho

[cursive wolf]

i have a keyboard and a mouse

[latent storm]

@latent storm if you plan to get a 3080 it would be a good idea to find the best airflow case to size possible
@fast sable does the 3080 run stupid hot?

[cursive wolf]

and the moniter is in the list

[sour kayak]

Any easy way to get your hands on a 5000 series chip rn?

or all they all gone

[next kestrel]

it runs hotter than most gpus

[sharp tundra]

Okay that'll make it a bit easier

[next kestrel]

u know what just get a NR200

[fast sable]

@fast sable does the 3080 run stupid hot?
@latent storm it can sometimes it fine but it does get toasty especially when u try overclocking

[next kestrel]

its good for 3080 afaik

why would u overclock itx

[sharp tundra]

@fast sable does the 3080 run stupid hot?
@latent storm the 3080 has air pass through to make it run cooler, it also doesn't get too terribly hot

[latent storm]

i dont think im gonna overclock

[next kestrel]

unless u custom loop bruh

[sharp tundra]

But that statement above is kinda dependent on if you have a case and f ans that allows good airflow

[latent storm]

i dont know how good these fans are at airflow tbh

[next kestrel]

nzxt cases and airflow dont really go together

[balmy patio]

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/FKBXy4 @cursive wolf i recommend you doing your own research on the laptop, monitor, and external drive, since pcpp is kinda wacky with those, the case i choose was something you can change if you'd like, and also, the price on the 3080 isn't really exact

[next kestrel]

but hey, they look nice and cost decent

[latent storm]

thats so unfortunate

[fast sable]

nzxt cases and airflow dont really go together
@next kestrel yea they arent known for thermals just looks and reliability

[latent storm]

bc that case looks super nice

[balmy patio]

idk i've never done a list so high end, so i think there can be some edits here and there

[next kestrel]

their thermals are reasonable

at best

[obsidian rock]

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/qWGpHz review if you want ig

[latent storm]

will i be able to get a 240mm aio in a mini itx case?

[balmy patio]

im pretty sure you will

which case?

[next kestrel]

the NZXT one, yes

[open peak]

What's everyones thoughts on the GIGABYTE GTX 1660 Ti

[next kestrel]

why buy 1660ti

[fast sable]

So you need a ITX due to space or just portability?

[next kestrel]

when u could get 5600xt

portability he said

[latent storm]

bro im not sure i dont know which case i want yet

[cursive wolf]

hey the motherboard is not compatible with the others

[latent storm]

yeah i need to transport it quite often

[open peak]

@next kestrel I can get a good deal on atm

[next kestrel]

@open peak less than 200$?

then go for it

[cursive wolf]

ok

[fast sable]

when u could get 5600xt
@next kestrel truth though

[cursive wolf]

@latent storm your pc looks good

[balmy patio]

@cursive wolf any mobo manufactured recently will have the bios update that will make it able to identify zen 3 chips

[cursive wolf]

ok

i think my list is more better

because you guys are givin lists without pheripherals and etx

[fast sable]

didnt you say u had a mouse and key?

[balmy patio]

no its jus that your list didn't really have included pricings

[cursive wolf]

the b550 pro is to powerful too

[balmy patio]

bruh you had a x570 in the list prior to mine

[next kestrel]

honestly your matx build was fine

[fast sable]

b550 is the new norm board for ryzen...

[next kestrel]

just that ITX is a lot more small

[cursive wolf]

even in your there is no price for two things

[next kestrel]

man

[balmy patio]

oh frick

i forgot the price for the aio

[cursive wolf]

you forgot the price for both the rtx 3080 and the liquid freezer

[balmy patio]

and i forgot to add storage

bruh this the type of things that happen when you go past your bedtime smh

[cursive wolf]

yes and also forgot the case and power

[balmy patio]

???

[desert gulch]

go to bed smh

[balmy patio]

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jrr4sX

[latent storm]

i was just kinda afraid to go with itx because it just seems a lot harder to build in

[balmy patio]

thats the list i sent?

[cursive wolf]

yeah you have those i forgot

[elfin solstice]

Hi this might be a dumb question but I'm a noob at PCs so I'm asking. What would be a better combo a Ryzen 5 3600/i7 9700k and a rtx 3080 or a Ryzen 5 5600x/Ryzen 7 3700x and a 3070. I'll be using it for a lot of gaming and maybe some occasional streaming and video editing. I'll also be playing on a 1440p 144hz monitor probably some fps and some story driven games.

[cursive wolf]

dude where is the storage

[balmy patio]

thats what i said i forgot

and the price for the aio

so it got fricked up

[latent storm]

why are itx motherboards so expensive?

[cursive wolf]

you put the price now but forgot the storage'

[balmy patio]

why are itx motherboards so expensive?
@latent storm cuz its harder to fit everything into a smaller form factor

[cursive wolf]

you have to change the motherboard too

[balmy patio]

why

[cursive wolf]

it has give compatibilitie warnings

see

Warning!Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vermeer CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions.

[balmy patio]

most new b550 motherboard that was shipped recently comes with the bios update needed to identify zen 3 cpu's

[cursive wolf]

yeah but....

it shows some warning thats why i told

[latent storm]

is this one good?

https://bit.ly/32zLvdk

[cursive wolf]

yes

but see if there is any warnings

[idle hawk]

@balmy patio i summon you

[vital warren]

dont trust pcpp warnings for the most part

[balmy patio]

and if you're worried that it doesn't, it has bios flashback which enables you to upgrade the bios from a usb stick without needing a cpu

[cursive wolf]

then if there is warnings then change the mother board

[vital warren]

get a b550

[latent storm]

these things are so expensive this is so cringe

[vital warren]

b450 ew

[latent storm]

sorry

[balmy patio]

bruh joker thanks for summoning me

[cursive wolf]

hey get a asus mother board

[balmy patio]

now i am awake

and less sleep deprived

[idle hawk]

lmao i need a 800-1200 pc build

[latent storm]

wow this is crazy

[idle hawk]

for a friend

[latent storm]

the only b550 itx mobo thats under $150 is an asrock one that doesnt look great for $119

[balmy patio]

bruh i gotta go sleep now

@cursive wolf ping me in like 8 hours if you still need help

[sharp tundra]

@cursive wolf Alright, all done.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q9c9rr

[idle hawk]

@balmy patio i summon you again mf

[latent storm]

why does the asrock b550 phantom gaming have only a 4 pin cpu power connector

[idle hawk]

i need a 800 to 1200$ pc build

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DGcpHz here @idle hawk if u needed a 1k ish list