building-and-recc-chat

[foggy hazel]

i already found 200 aud to save on your list

with no downside

[heavy jasper]

Has anyone ever build a pc in a tv

[crude hazel]

OoooO okay

[heavy jasper]

That would be funny

Like those really old box tvs

[whole harbor]

tomphan out of curiosity whats this gonna be used for @crude hazel

[crude hazel]

Gaming/streaming/content creation (video editing/after effects and photoshop)

[foggy hazel]

how heavy on the video side are you going @crude hazel ?

content from other sources than the c920 or?

and the capture card ofc

[crude hazel]

It’s just mainly hopefully 1080p60fps if new internet speed can handle it. If not most of my videos are going to be 720p60fps

[foggy hazel]

hmm

scratch disk might still be something to think about then

will you ever have a use for wifi?

[crude hazel]

I have to use wifi until i get a new place. No ethernet connection in my@room@

[foggy hazel]

kk

[crude hazel]

Makes my life harder 😦

Tried connecting 5m wire from my pc to modem router. Not a fun experience 🥸 kek

[foggy hazel]

nothing that a good big drill cannot fix :)

[crude hazel]

Well not in my parent’s place kek. Was really thinking about drilling

Ahahah

[foggy hazel]

:)

do you have access to a zen2 cpu by chance?

[hoary lichen]

Any one have a good 600-700 dollar build

I just check mine on a benchmark

And its kinda bad

[crude hazel]

Nope. My old build was an intel one

[foggy hazel]

any mates or anything near you with one?

maybe a local pc shop?

[hoary lichen]

[crude hazel]

Sadly all intel bois. And best is like a hour drive

[foggy hazel]

hmm

[hoary lichen]

Intel is more for gaming right?

[crude hazel]

All my@mates are upgrading zen 3 ahaha

[foggy hazel]

the worry is bios version of the board

[whole harbor]

@hoary lichen what build did u test

[hoary lichen]

The one i sent you

[whole harbor]

Send me it

in here

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[foggy hazel]

@crude hazel nvm about the bios, there is a way around that with a different board.

[hoary lichen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TCNkXb

Lmao

I mean a 1650 is not good

[whole harbor]

i never sent u that wth

[hoary lichen]

This is the one i made

[whole harbor]

Bruh

What games u playing

and use this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z2Rp2V

[hoary lichen]

Genshin, cod, dead by day light, csgo, and more ill find along the way

[crude hazel]

I thought all x570 boards come prepped for zen 3?

[whole harbor]

@hoary lichen what res and settings

Cause this should run fine

Dpeending on settings

[hoary lichen]

Prob normal or a little over

[foggy hazel]

@crude hazel its not that simple :)

[whole harbor]

those arent settings

Bruh

[hoary lichen]

[whole harbor]

I mean like

1920x1080

[hoary lichen]

Oh

[whole harbor]

1600x900

[hoary lichen]

[crude hazel]

Oh damn

[whole harbor]

low settings

High settings

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[foggy hazel]

@crude hazel can we take this to a dm instead?

[crude hazel]

Okay

[hoary lichen]

Prob 1600x900

[whole harbor]

@hoary lichen so?

and what else

[hoary lichen]

Man

[whole harbor]

Low high?

[hoary lichen]

Prob high

[whole harbor]

What games

bruh

Ive never played any games u have

[hoary lichen]

Genshin impact, gta, csgo, fnaf vr, vr chat, cod

[whole harbor]

What fps are u aiming for on eqch game

Csgo will run just fine

[hoary lichen]

At least 80 or 90+

[whole harbor]

Ur gonna have to test it out

[hoary lichen]

[whole harbor]

But i think youll do just fine

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[whole harbor]

just mess with the settings

[hoary lichen]

Ill benchmark it

Brb

[whole harbor]

?

bruh

[hoary lichen]

Oh

I use userbenchmark

[whole harbor]

Just mess with the settinfs when u build it

[teal marten]

Bro

[whole harbor]

@foggy hazel

[foggy hazel]

@whole harbor

[left shore]

When is the Ryzen 5 5600X coming back 😦

[junior crescent]

Can Someone make a list for 2800 aud for streaming, gaming and editing, probs with the zen 3

[whole harbor]

@foggy hazel someone needed help but i think they dleted their msg

[vale dome]

Hey can someone tell me if this will work fine? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yn9ht8

[modest kestrel]

I have amd I9 600000K with Nvamd 3020 ti with corsar opel watercooling

rate it

[buoyant pilot]

idk

i would go for an InHell i69 420k and a MAD Rx 6900XTX.

[earnest olive]

@vale dome as far as working it will work, however that is a horrendously overpriced 1050 Ti

[vale dome]

whats a better option?

and thanks for reply @earnest olive :)

[earnest olive]

check your local used market

probably can find used rx 580 at that price, or 1050ti for 80

[vale dome]

ah right ty

can i swap it with a 1650@?

[earnest olive]

1650 super is a lot better than 1650

for similar price

[versed rock]

Well, this is interesting. Apparently Zen 3 seems to run FASTER with 4 sticks of memory compared to 2.

GN just did a piece on this.

[waxen oxide]

I can't find MSI Torx fan (120mm) anywhere (I'm talking the old one). It seems like the only ones are on eBay, and the delivery to my place costs as much as the fan. Is there any store in EU that still sells them with international shipping?

[versed rock]

I've never even heard of those fans.

So, I doubt they exist anymore.

Just replace your fans with something newer and better.

[waxen oxide]

It's not really for me though, my friend wants to find the exact fan for his MSI Core frozr L, cuz it comes with only one of them

And they're the previous gen

New ones are RGB, and he hates that

But I guess he'll have to go with it

[versed rock]

Or just replace the fans with Black Noctua Fans.

GG you get better airflow and a blackout look

[sick lichen]

Working on a 5900x build and currently have some 3200mhz CL14 GSkill ram (2x8gb) and was searching for another set. Would it cause problems if the model number was one off? I have F4-3200C14-8gtzkw but I can only find F4-3200C14D-8gtzkw that's similar

[brittle tinsel]

how are radiator dimensions listed?
would this: Dimension:393 x 120 x 27 mm
fit in this case?
3x 360mm radiator mountings forfeiting fan slots able to take a 90mm (top), 50mm (front), 85mm (bottom)

[rustic sandal]

What rad is it?

[brittle tinsel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CVJkcf/thermaltake-floe-riing-rgb-360-tt-premium-edition-423-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cl-w158-pl12sw-a

im trying to build a i9-9900k 1660ti build with the parts all being able to sync to razer synapse

but im not sure if that rad will fit

[little osprey]

Hi guys can anyone help me out pls I have 500$ for my first pc any recommendations

[earnest olive]

@versed rock rank interleaving is nothing new, applies to zen 2 and intel as well

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h3hPXb this if you want only new parts

[little osprey]

Does that have like rgb lights

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MdKH2V

you can grab a used RX 570 for $80 and get better gaming performance

frankly rgb should not be a priority at this budget

but the asrock b450 pro4 does have a few rgb headers

[little osprey]

Got it

[earnest olive]

so you could add rgb stuff yes

[little osprey]

Awesome

[earnest olive]

i would recommend the second list if your local used market allows for it

rgb strips aren't terribly expensive

$16-20

[little osprey]

But there’s an issue I’ve never built a pc nor know how to build one

[earnest olive]

it's easy just watch youtube guides

linus first person build guide is nice

[little osprey]

And yeah I have extra strips of led light

Ok thx

[earnest olive]

12V 4pin or 5V 3pin?

this board supports both

[little osprey]

Ok thank you guys

[earnest olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MYOpFONCU

this video helped me for my first build

seeing it in first person was helpful

[brittle tinsel]

yo sips, how do you know if the mb has rgb headers? pcpartpicker doesnt list for me i dont think]

[earnest olive]

google the motherboard name

go to the website

go to specifications

internal connectors

[jagged ember]

Can also download the mobo manual

Should tell you all the same

[jagged ember]

But, website is easier

[earnest olive]

i've also done 5 builds on the b450 pro4

[little osprey]

on the asus z390-a, the 5V RGB header is next to the fan header?

[earnest olive]

so i'm... intimately familiar with it

haha

[brittle tinsel]

there is no internal connectors list on this one

:/

[earnest olive]

asus prime z390-a does not have any 5V rgb headers

only 12V rgb headers

which board?

[brittle tinsel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=LQtTnQ

[earnest olive]

it's private

just say the motherboard name

[brittle tinsel]

what about now?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=LQtTnQ

[earnest olive]

strongly recommend against paying $664 for a 9900K and mobo when 5600X just came out

you also should look for a 4x8 set of ram instead of 2x2x8

[brittle tinsel]

im not into amd, I prefer intel

[earnest olive]

not sure why you have 2 ssds that are 750gb total for the cost of a 1tb ssd

[gritty zenith]

its for the chroma

[earnest olive]

or 2 2tb hdds instead of a 4tb hdd

[gritty zenith]

more rgb go brr

[earnest olive]

also 1660ti with 9900k is a pretty questionable pairing

[brittle tinsel]

250gb boot drive and a 500gb ssd because 1800 is really the limit for now, this way i can add more storage down the road

[earnest olive]

$1900 for a 1660ti build

i've done builds that will perform within 1% of this rig for $700

lol

[weak field]

woah

[earnest olive]

9900K is no better than a ryzen 5 3600 if you're gonna bottleneck it with a 1660ti

[gritty zenith]

@earnest olive but the rgb

[earnest olive]

hell you can comfortably do an rtx 3080 build with rgb for less than this

[brittle tinsel]

is the 1660 ti not better than the 1060?

[weak field]

delete that list!

[little osprey]

@little osprey sure I would be down to go into a vid chat so you guys can help me

[weak field]

its terrible

please do

[brittle tinsel]

I prefer intel and nvidia, its what i have used for a long time and i am not comfortable with swapping

[gritty zenith]

1660 ti is better but at a really bad price

[little osprey]

Also on the second list it said compatibility issues @earnest olive

[gritty zenith]

lordy

[earnest olive]

ignore it

it says that on all ryzen 3000 with b450 boards

[gritty zenith]

guys just leave this dude b if they dont wanna swap to better price to perf then just

leave it

[earnest olive]

because not all b450 boards are compatible with ryzen 3000 out of box

that board is always compatible out of box

[little osprey]

Ok got it

Thx

[gritty zenith]

gigabyte b450m ds3h wifi is compatible out the box, but you might as well get the b550 ds3h bc its like $20 more only

but thats outta budget

lol

[weak field]

10$ more

[versed rock]

Then just add 20 bucks to the budget and eat ramen for a week to save the money.

[gritty zenith]

ah even better

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BL6Mbh just destroyed that guy's list lol

[weak field]

newegg says overridden

[earnest olive]

3080 rig with plenty of rgb for cheaper than his 1660ti rig

[gritty zenith]

that toshiba hdd tho lel

[weak field]

sus

[versed rock]

Broslays when the competition is destroying Intel by 50% or more, you move to AMD.

[weak field]

yes

[gritty zenith]

cl18 memo

ry

[brittle tinsel]

im open to suggestion here, im just trying to go with a good intel and nvidia, along with the thermaltake parts that sync to razer synapse, with my peripherals

[versed rock]

Because AMD is just THAT much better

[gritty zenith]

sorry latency

[earnest olive]

cl18 is fine for dual rank

[weak field]

5600x absolutely booty smacks the 10900k

[earnest olive]

it's harder to get tightened timings on dual rank

[gritty zenith]

5600x op af

[earnest olive]

more important to get high FCLK on ryzen

[gritty zenith]

MM

[versed rock]

@brittle tinsel Intel is quite literally dumpster trash right now.

[weak field]

yes

[earnest olive]

i run my ram at 3800C16 but that's 2x8gb single rank

[versed rock]

The 10900K is getting beaten by the 300 dollar 5600X

[brittle tinsel]

i understand the compatablilty and chipsets with intel, with amd, all i see is that i have to update the bios and if i do i cant go back

[gritty zenith]

if you trynna go good intel and nvidia then go with i5-10600k and 1660 super and you can enjoy allllll the rgb you want

[versed rock]

Not just beaten, Slapped around like it's a Whet Noodle

[earnest olive]

if you buy a 5600X why do you care about being able to put a 2600 in it? lol

[brittle tinsel]

im just trying to build a pc that can handle any game while streaming (same pc) for about $1500 - $1800

[gritty zenith]

then buy amd

[earnest olive]

the list i put there is more than twice as powerful as your list for cheaper

[gritty zenith]

ez

[earnest olive]

lol

[versed rock]

Yeah, and that's an AMD + Nvidia machine right now.

Until we see the performance of the RX 6000 cards.

[earnest olive]

eh if you want to waste your money that's on you

[gritty zenith]

false

[earnest olive]

some people can't be helped

1660ti in a $1900 rig... lol

[versed rock]

Yeah, that's what we call Effing Stupid.

[gritty zenith]

BUT THE RGB AND UM THE BRAND

INTEL PLS

ok sorry but like fr amd is better rn

savings + performance

[earnest olive]

true, gotta pair my i9-10980xe with gt 710

[gritty zenith]

i mean cmon

[earnest olive]

gotta get that sweet sweet intel flagship

[gritty zenith]

gt ten thiddy

[weak field]

yepper

[foggy hazel]

@earnest olive acting condescending about it, is not going to help anyone.

help people

dont belittle them

[earnest olive]

i did

[gritty zenith]

i mean

we trying

[earnest olive]

he rejected the help because "amd bad"

that's when i give up on them

[foggy hazel]

this should not be a hard concept to grasp for anyone.

[weak field]

amd is better

[earnest olive]

tried twice 🙂

[weak field]

intel dog crap

[gritty zenith]

yeah, amd > intel shouldn't be a hard concept to grasp

naed right

[weak field]

JUST GRAB THE AMD

[foggy hazel]

and remember, no one forces you to respond

[earnest olive]

it's not even about the brand

[gritty zenith]

tru

[earnest olive]

spending $700 on cpu and mobo to pair with a 1660ti :/

[gritty zenith]

but then ppl will complain about not receiving help

[earnest olive]

but he must have his 9900k at all costs

[foggy hazel]

@gritty zenith this is a volunteer based server. Everyone has a choice in what they do

if you ask for help. That is all you do

[gritty zenith]

10600k and 1660 super in a sub $1000 build im p sure is more than possible even with nice rgb

[earnest olive]

i've had my questions ignored plenty of times but that's fine, it's not like i'm paying for tech support here

figure people just don't know the answer

[gritty zenith]

if someone is that bent on intel nvidia

tru

[foggy hazel]

@earnest olive a lot of questions get lost in the random bla bla bla semi-spam that people do.

[earnest olive]

i mean you could make an intel build more sensible than that anyways

[gritty zenith]

^

[foggy hazel]

hence why i am NOT helping anyone in #general-chat

[earnest olive]

the $200 9700K from microcenter isn't a bad deal

nor the $280 9900K

[gritty zenith]

yeah i hate microcenter deals

[earnest olive]

9900K is still within spitting distance of a 5600X

[foggy hazel]

i swing by once in a while and if i see something, i ask them to move to another channel

[gritty zenith]

"Only in store!!!" lives in florida

[earnest olive]

fwiw i asked in #old-cooling

[weak field]

flow rida

my grandparents live down there

[earnest olive]

i'm trying to figure out how to set case fan curves based on GPU temp

[foggy hazel]

aye, and there are only "so" many people that actually answer questions @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

it's not very helpful to set case fan curves based on CPU when my CPU is running 45C and GPU is running 72C

[foggy hazel]

you would have to use a software solution that can read that info and pass it through to the fans

[earnest olive]

well yes i did say i didn't mind not getting an answer

[foggy hazel]

not blaming you Sips

[earnest olive]

i don't expect to be catered to 24/7 by a server full of random people not getting paid

[foggy hazel]

just highlighting the reality of this server :)

[earnest olive]

any software recommendation? i saw speedfan recommended on some old forums but apparently it has very limited support for modern chipsets

[weak field]

hm

[gritty zenith]

i mean in all fairness you can find really helpful ppl here

speedfan is good

[weak field]

yeah

[earnest olive]

it could only detect the temperatures of my drives, which is even less useful than cpu temp

[foggy hazel]

i dont know of any software that does that on the desktop Sips

[earnest olive]

it didn't even recognize any of my 9 fans

my motherboard has a temp source in bios named "pciex16" that got me excited... then i tried it

[foggy hazel]

speedfan is not the solution (from my knowledge of it)

[earnest olive]

turns out it monitors the temperature of the actual pcie slot...

[foggy hazel]

its a temp sensor near the slot itself

[earnest olive]

not sure who would even use that

do pcie slots get hot...?

[gritty zenith]

speedfan give nice info

[earnest olive]

at full gaming load the pcie slot was reading 8C over ambient

[little osprey]

Does anyone here still play fortnite ime trying to sell my account so I can get a pc

[gritty zenith]

pls dont laugh at my i5-4590

[foggy hazel]

Maybe, just maybe, there might be some kind of synergy with some of the mainboard monitoring suites

[earnest olive]

well you have a i5-4590 which is quite old, like i said support for modern chipsets is very limited

i have a b550 chipset

[gritty zenith]

i used it with my 9900k when i had it

[weak field]

uh huh

[earnest olive]

b550 is still considerably newer than z390

[foggy hazel]

fx, like the AI suite that asus has SIPS

[gritty zenith]

tru

[earnest olive]

it only detects my ssd and hdd

[gritty zenith]

m

rip

[earnest olive]

0/9 fans detected, gpu not detected, cpu not detected, water pump not detected

as far as speedfan is concerned i am running a system without a cpu

[gritty zenith]

lmo

[foggy hazel]

see what i said above Sips

[brittle tinsel]

parts aside, back to my original question,
How do i know if Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.34 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler will fit in Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer ATX Full Tower Case

Sorry i am just not understanding how to read the dimensions

[earnest olive]

i've got a gigabyte board

[gritty zenith]

ugh velka 3 build really out here makin my gpu idle at 56C

[earnest olive]

you think gigabyte software would have gpu temp monitoring?

[gritty zenith]

mayb

[earnest olive]

my old board was msi and the msi software did not

[small osprey]

parts aside, back to my original question,
How do i know if Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.34 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler will fit in Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Razer ATX Full Tower Case

Sorry i am just not understanding how to read the dimensions
@brittle tinsel ok first off why that aio

[gritty zenith]

msi wack lowkey

[earnest olive]

i actually switched board just because i hated msi software so much

[foggy hazel]

as i said Sips, there MIGHT be synergy

because i know how i would solve it myself. but that involves a soldering iron

[earnest olive]

msi b450 tomahawk max... fine piece of hardware, software not so much

[foggy hazel]

@small osprey not what they are asking

[earnest olive]

yeah i'm not interested in any hardware modding solutions, i don't have the tools or skills to do it

[gritty zenith]

lol my old pc case could prob get temps better than softwares

[small osprey]

Ik

But

[brittle tinsel]

i dont want to go down this road again, I am just asking a simple quesiton, i dont want to get criticized over everything i do

[small osprey]

Check the case specifications

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel go to the case manufacturers site, there should be a list of "these AIO sizes will fit" list

[gritty zenith]

@brittle tinsel we were trying to help you, but you refuse to do what's best for your money, which is our goal here

[small osprey]

It should say something like top: radiator sizes

[brittle tinsel]

I struggled in school and im struggling here, i dont feel comfortable swapping out of intel and nividia

[gritty zenith]

you want to play games and stream

[foggy hazel]

@gritty zenith you are missing the point

[brittle tinsel]

@foggy hazel will try that

[small osprey]

And then if 360mm is supported then it will fit

[gritty zenith]

i mean i did suggest them something for what they want, they said they wanted intel nvidia so i suggested something intel nvidia

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel also, always keep in mind. Dont trust seller posted info. Always check the manufacturers page

@gritty zenith did you ask if they wanted what you suggested?

[gritty zenith]

they never responded

[foggy hazel]

as in. the actual suggestion about it

because a bunch of people here just started asking about everything BUT the question that @brittle tinsel asked.

again.

try and HELP people

[gritty zenith]

@brittle tinsel do you want an intel nvidia suggestion that is good for your money?

[earnest olive]

sadly gpu temp is not displayed in gigabyte software

[gritty zenith]

sadboihours

[brittle tinsel]

this is really all i can find, which is why im having issues, i dont understand the dimensions

how are radiator dimensions listed?
would this: Dimension:393 x 120 x 27 mm
fit in this case?
3x 360mm radiator mountings forfeiting fan slots able to take a 90mm (top), 50mm (front), 85mm (bottom)

[gritty zenith]

hold on

[foggy hazel]

2sec @brittle tinsel

[brittle tinsel]

the last line is the case desc, and and 4th to last line is the rad dimensions

[earnest olive]

hmm, this software named argus monitor claims to be able to do gpu temp as a source

let's try it out

[gritty zenith]

wait radiator dimensions just come down to the fan count don't it? at least it can be simplified to that right?

[earnest olive]

30 day free trial

[gritty zenith]

bc a case that can fit 2 fans up top can fit radiator that is two fans long

[earnest olive]

you also need to consider radiator and fan thickness

[foggy hazel]

that is from Lian-Li @gritty zenith

[earnest olive]

but usually less important

[small osprey]

Wait 393x120??

[brittle tinsel]

thats what the case said unless it was a typo

[small osprey]

Shouldnt it be 360x120

[foggy hazel]

@small osprey that number is the "full" measure

[small osprey]

Ah

Well then it should fit

[earnest olive]

you got 360 for the fans but there needs to be space for the tank and tubing to go in

[brittle tinsel]

so then a 3 120mm fan rad will fit in a 3 120mm fan space?

[gritty zenith]

should

[earnest olive]

yes but make sure you have enough clearance considering rad and fan thickness

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel

[weak field]

what are yall talking bout

[earnest olive]

if you mount rad in the front it reduces gpu clearance

[weak field]

its a fan

[earnest olive]

if you mount rad on the top it may reduce ram clearance

[foggy hazel]

@weak field read up.

[weak field]

yeah ill pass

id rather just go somewheere else

[earnest olive]

i have top mounted rad and it limits my ram clearance to 44mm

[gritty zenith]

smh

[earnest olive]

luckily my ram is 42mm

[gritty zenith]

why not go 20mm ra

m

[small osprey]

Is that a thing

[gritty zenith]

@small osprey you got 6800xt early?

[small osprey]

Nope

But im hoping to get it

[gritty zenith]

well hopefully you won't have to change your name on the 18th for not getting it lol

good luck

imma try to get one for my dad for his first build

[small osprey]

Lmao ikr

[brittle tinsel]

how good is the pcpartpicker compatibility checker? cause so far it hasnt flagged anything but my ram i have selected isnt showing support for z390 chipset

[gritty zenith]

it should be good up to like dimensions

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel page 9 in the manual for the case answers your question

[small osprey]

I did manage to get a 5600x tho

[gritty zenith]

it always warns that it can't check dimensions very well

[fallen escarp]

are getting two ssds, one for general purpose and the other for storing games, better and faster than getting an ssd and an hdd seperately?

[brittle tinsel]

manual?

[gritty zenith]

nah

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel yes, there is a manual for your case. that has all the measurements

its part of the reason why i told you to check the manufacturers website @brittle tinsel

[brittle tinsel]

i dont own the case, im just browsing right now

[gritty zenith]

storing games on ssd will net you faster launch and load times in games

but like

[foggy hazel]

read again please @brittle tinsel

[gritty zenith]

better to get ssd+hdd and prioritize games which you know have longer load times to put on your ssd and the rest on your hdd, at least if you want to save money, otherwise, ssds op

[fallen escarp]

money isnt a concern for me

my pc budget is $3000

[versed rock]

Jebus...

[foggy hazel]

@fallen escarp you are still in the money matters range then

[gritty zenith]

i didn't experience the full power of nvme til i recently put it in a pc im selling and it installed windows in like 5 minutes

[versed rock]

That's a large budget.

[foggy hazel]

but to answer your question: ssd is faster.

[earnest olive]

any reason you want 2 ssds? do you need 4tb of ssds?

[brittle tinsel]

would you look at that, thanks naed

[gritty zenith]

then get two 1tb wdsn750 ssds

[earnest olive]

there are 2tb single ssds

[gritty zenith]

on sale

op

[foggy hazel]

but IF you need large amounts of storage, it gets fairly silly very quickly @fallen escarp

[gritty zenith]

wait they are still on sale right (.-.)

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome @brittle tinsel

[fallen escarp]

thank you frens ill just keep the ssd + hdd i already have planned

[gritty zenith]

2tb are like $250 at the least, no?

ah alright

[foggy hazel]

around that range yes @gritty zenith

[gritty zenith]

at that budget you could go with a 2tb ssd and 12tb hdd

[fallen escarp]

too much

[gritty zenith]

money or storage lol

[fallen escarp]

i mean

my dad might be buying it for me but right now im planning everything for fun

[gritty zenith]

alright, well in any case something like that would be around $400 in storage i believe

[earnest olive]

oh wow

argus monitor actually can set case fans based on gpu temp

nice

[fallen escarp]

fank you:) @gritty zenith

[gritty zenith]

scratch that, that would be for 2tb ssd and 8tb seagate

4tb off

lol

np

if you have any of the budget now, samsung 970 evo+ 2tb is on sale

$200 off

js

[foggy hazel]

@gritty zenith i dont see where you guys are seeing "all that budget"

its only 3k

[gritty zenith]

i mean yeah

[foggy hazel]

no need to just throw the money away

its not a 15k build

[gritty zenith]

$50k no compromises build

summary of LTT

[rustic sandal]

@gritty zenith no it’s not $200 off lol, it’s usually around that price. they do that so you think it’s a good deal when it’s really just msrp

[gritty zenith]

o so $300 is msrp? i never look at high storage nvme ssds so i wouldn't know lol

thx for pointing out

[foggy hazel]

there are a few regions where samsung makes sense as a ssd choice (because of availability and region pricing). The US is not one of those places

[gritty zenith]

yeah, im just gonna stick to mp34 when i get the money

[foggy hazel]

@earnest olive heh, that is a name i have NOT heard in a decade+

[small osprey]

yeah, im just gonna stick to mp34 when i get the money
@gritty zenith mp34 is good

[earnest olive]

argus monitor?

[topaz coyote]

bit of a bonehead question

[earnest olive]

it definitely looks like an old software

[topaz coyote]

is it worth spending 2k on a pc?

[earnest olive]

but it's getting the job done

[foggy hazel]

aye @earnest olive

[topaz coyote]

like custom loop

[earnest olive]

my system is MUCH quieter while gaming now

i'm testing it right now

[topaz coyote]

3080

ryzen 9

[small osprey]

What r u gonna use it for

[foggy hazel]

i am looking at their version history, and i remember some of the bugs from back in 2009

[earnest olive]

my gpu used to go full windstorm mode during gaming because my case fans were all off

[topaz coyote]

gaming and possibly 3d modelling

[small osprey]

First build?

[topaz coyote]

second

[small osprey]

Hmm

[foggy hazel]

@earnest olive now you know another reason why a lot of builders use hardware toggles for case fans.

[small osprey]

Its probably ok to spend that much money

[topaz coyote]

i was gonna go for an itx build but hard to find a case to support the gpus

and cool them

[small osprey]

If you werent gonna do modelling I would say get r5 5600x

[earnest olive]

this software seems like a perfectly fine solution

[brittle tinsel]

@earnest olive would this leave room for ram? you were talking about top mounted rad right?

also where do you see how tall the ram is?
the manufacturer website for my ram doesnt list any sizes

really sorry if im being a pain to anybody, im trying my best to understand here

[earnest olive]

i literally googled "<name of my ram modules> height"

[foggy hazel]

@topaz coyote Slieger has some (itx cases)

[earnest olive]

and google said 42mm

[foggy hazel]

Ncase is another brand that has a case that works for you too

[earnest olive]

clearance is pretty tight

but pretty tight is much better than doesn't fit

[small osprey]

@brittle tinsel the 011-d has tons of space, you should be good

[versed rock]

Reee

Those tubes are in a bad position

[earnest olive]

how so?

[topaz coyote]

@foggy hazel issue is im EU

[gritty zenith]

oh?

[versed rock]

Watch the Gamers Nexus video on AIO Position

[foggy hazel]

that is not a problem for either of those two brands @topaz coyote

[earnest olive]

i did

[small osprey]

Well sips has ripjaws

[earnest olive]

my rad is top mounted

lol

[small osprey]

They are short

[gritty zenith]

wait what is fatty's goal?

[versed rock]

Yeah, and that is bad for Thermals

[earnest olive]

what?

did you watch the video you're asking me to watch? lol

[versed rock]

Yes.

[earnest olive]

gn said top mounted is the best way to go

[topaz coyote]

itx case

[small osprey]

Broslay what ram are u gonna get

[foggy hazel]

@topaz coyote https://www.density.sk/

[earnest olive]

front mounted bottom tubes is second best

[topaz coyote]

with 5900x cpu

[versed rock]

The ideal config is Front Mount with Bottom Tubes

[foggy hazel]

that is the EU distro for Slieger fx

[earnest olive]

no... lol

[brittle tinsel]

all it says is 2 centimeters high and 19 centimeters wide

[versed rock]

Because thermally a Front Mount is ideal.

[earnest olive]

he said that's what to go for if your case can only front mount

[gritty zenith]

okay but

[earnest olive]

idk what to tell you man i'm gaming at 42C right now overclocked

[brittle tinsel]

so i think thats 20mm

[earnest olive]

think my thermals are fine bud

[small osprey]

idk what to tell you man i'm gaming at 42C right now overclocked
@earnest olive what is ur cooler

[gritty zenith]

are you trying to go for smallest you can with 3090 and R5900x?

[earnest olive]

silverstone pf360 argb

[versed rock]

You'd probably drop 2 to 5 c if you were on a front mount.

[earnest olive]

go rewatch the video you're telling me to watch... lol

[versed rock]

But, Liquid Cooling is bad anyway.

[small osprey]

Damn

[brittle tinsel]

@brittle tinsel the 011-d has tons of space, you should be good
@small osprey have you used it?

[earnest olive]

also.. if i'm at 42C while gaming with 40% pump speed and 20% fan speed, i'm not sure i'm too worried about dropping a few more degrees

[small osprey]

Personally? No

[earnest olive]

LOL

[brittle tinsel]

what do you mean personally, no?

you have seen it hands on?

[foggy hazel]

@topaz coyote #build-pics message

[small osprey]

Meh i still think nh-d15 is best

[foggy hazel]

have a look there

[small osprey]

Broslay i have seen it hands on

[earnest olive]

air cooling is great... i went with this aio entirely for looks

[versed rock]

NH-D15 is a worse Dark Rock Pro 4

[small osprey]

But i havent built in one

NH-D15 is a worse Dark Rock Pro 4
@versed rock not true

[brittle tinsel]

do you think front mounted rad would leave room for a gpu?

[earnest olive]

this aio has a really nice looking water block and also gives me more room to put figurine in my pc

[versed rock]

Don't go Liquid Cooling...

[earnest olive]

money is not an issue

[topaz coyote]

@foggy hazel so on the website it gives few cases, any you would recommend fromm sliger

[versed rock]

Still, don't go liquid

[small osprey]

Figurine lol

[earnest olive]

yup

i've spent way too much on looks

i have a custom engraved gpu stand coming in

[small osprey]

Lmao

Post a pic

[earnest olive]

i plan to once i have everything in

for now i have an ugly gtx 1060 with no backplate

looking to pick up rx 6800xt nitro+

[foggy hazel]

@topaz coyote check the link i posted for you earlier while i try and see if i can remember what the name if for the sliegers

[small osprey]

Nitro+?

[versed rock]

I'm super sad that there's no White GPUs for the 30 series

[earnest olive]

yeah the sapphire model

[small osprey]

Ah

[versed rock]

And I have no idea if there will be White RX 6000 series cards.

[small osprey]

Skiptrace nh-d15 is better than drp4

[versed rock]

No it isn't.

[earnest olive]

my build is pure black and white so i am VERY not interested in the reference 6800xt with its giant red accent

[brittle tinsel]

@versed rock whats the problem with liquid cooled?

[versed rock]

DRP4 is better because it's quieter.

[jagged ember]

No I'm pretty sure it is better

[versed rock]

It's expensive and basically gives no major benefits.

[foggy hazel]

@topaz coyote SM580 is a popular choice

[small osprey]

Drp4 is like 80

[brittle tinsel]

are you talking about full blown water cooled or rads?

[small osprey]

my build is pure black and white so i am VERY not interested in the reference 6800xt with its giant red accent
@earnest olive lmao get the strix 6800xt

[earnest olive]

i sold a pile of stock coolers that i had for $75

[versed rock]

And, if your cooler fails, you basically have a dead system until you replace the cooler.

[small osprey]

Wat

[versed rock]

I'm talking all facets of liquid cooling.

[earnest olive]

strix 6800xt? i'm interested

[jagged ember]

Haha

[earnest olive]

has it been shown?

[jagged ember]

Facets

[small osprey]

Yea

On asus website

[jagged ember]

It's a faucet joke

I get it

[small osprey]

It is liquid cooled lmao

[earnest olive]

i'll have to see reviews though because asus has a terrible track record with AMD cards

[small osprey]

Has large amounts of rgb

[gritty zenith]

sliger CL530 is decent if you're looking for the absolute smallest it will fit an rtx 3090 but you will have to find one that has the three fans out front

[earnest olive]

is it 2x8 pin?

any 3x8 pin card i'm not considering

i don't want to rebuy custom cables

and i only have 2x8

i will be undervolting anyways so pushing 450W doesn't interest me

[versed rock]

AIO, Custom Loop. Doesn't matter. If the Liquid Cooling system dies, then you have to replace the cooler. Because a Liquid Cooling system can't function without liquid flow.

[small osprey]

is it 2x8 pin?
@earnest olive idk about that but it should be 2x8

[earnest olive]

still considering it's asus i'll have to wait for reviews

[versed rock]

If an Air Cooler dies, you can at least somewhat use the system while you wait for a new fan replacement.

[earnest olive]

sapphire i trust

[small osprey]

If an Air Cooler dies, you can at least somewhat use the system while you wait for a new fan replacement.
@versed rock uhm not rly

[versed rock]

Yes, really.

[earnest olive]

good thing i have a backup air cooler huh 🙂

[small osprey]

What are you gonna do to prevent the cpu from getting to 90c other than dont use the system

[versed rock]

If you are doing mostly idle tasks, a Passive air cooler with a chonky heatsink will work fine.

[small osprey]

This is why you keep your stock coolers lol

Ah i mean sure

[earnest olive]

actually now i'm curious

what kind of temps would i get with my cm 212 heatsink with no fan in a high airflow case

mesh front, 4 intake, 3 exhaust

wonder if it could handle 3ghz lol

[night storm]

Would be easy to duct any fan onto your heat sink so don’t know why anyone would even do that.

[earnest olive]

curiosity

i don't really feel like unmounting my water block and wasting some thermal paste though

i've done power up tests without thermal paste before that's about as far as i've messed with cpu coolers

temps without thermal paste were surprisingly not nearly as high as expected

guess the heatpipes were pretty flat

had a ryzen 5 3600x and enermax ets-n31-02 running without thermal paste, idle 55C on desktop

[versed rock]

Yikes

[stoic island]

P95?

[earnest olive]

idle lol

[stoic island]

Idle temps don't matter smh

I mean did you try p95

[earnest olive]

no..

[stoic island]

And what temps

[versed rock]

My 3600 runs at 45c Idle with a Mugen 5

[earnest olive]

i don't wanna set it on fire man

[stoic island]

Lol

[earnest olive]

i was just doing a power on test and didn't want to waste thermal paste

[versed rock]

...

[earnest olive]

i was expecting 80C idle on desktop

[stoic island]

Nah

Thermal paste isn't crazy

[earnest olive]

@versed rock i was diagnosing a customer's build that was having issues and it was my 7th cooler swap... was getting tired of wasting my arctic mx-4

🙂

[stoic island]

It just increases efficiency of transfer of heat

[earnest olive]

no thermal paste is fine for desktop power on

[stoic island]

Without thermal paste, it's still a block of metal on the chip cooling it

[versed rock]

Just get some dirt cheap 5 gallon tub of thermal paste.

[earnest olive]

no thanks... thermal paste has a shelf life

i don't do that much testing

[night storm]

Just use tooth paste

[earnest olive]

and i wouldn't want to use that stuff in a final build

[idle compass]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QfJjDx

[versed rock]

A shelf life of a billion years

[idle compass]

Is this good

[earnest olive]

idk why you think there's any problem with running a cpu at 55C for 30 seconds

[versed rock]

No, Intel Bad.

[earnest olive]

lol..

[night storm]

Bernie would for sure go amd

[earnest olive]

@idle compass strongly recommend against ssds without dram, pick up a team mp34 1tb

cougar mx330-g is a good case but not at that price

its normal price is $49

if you're tight on budget consider a ryzen 5 2600 over an i5-9400f, it has double the thread count

[stoic island]

Mx330-g air at 55$

3 fans

[earnest olive]

yeah mx330-g air is fantastic

i did a build in it recently

[stoic island]

Was still in stock last I saw on b&h

Nice

[earnest olive]

frankly insane value

[stoic island]

Demonmit made a build in it a few months back

[earnest olive]

the pics make the fans look blue, was pleasantly surprised that they are white light in person

[idle compass]

if you're tight on budget consider a ryzen 5 2600 over an i5-9400f, it has double the thread count
@earnest olive Does it come with a good stock cooler

[earnest olive]

much better than the 9400f yes

intel stock cooler is a bit of a meme

[stoic island]

Intel stock coolers are a joke

[earnest olive]

ryzen stock coolers are good enough to overclock on

intel stock coolers will barely keep it from throttling at intel spec stock

not even motherboard stock

[brittle tinsel]

is 1660ti the best gpu for $300 brand new or is there a better gpu for the same price?

[earnest olive]

you can get 1080ti used for that price

or 2070 super for a little more

but it depends on where you live

[brittle tinsel]

I use amazon a lot so i would prefer new

[earnest olive]

not everywhere has a good used market

[brittle tinsel]

america

[earnest olive]

right now is a really bad time to buy a new $300 gpu tbh

but you can definitely get a 2060 for that

[deep skiff]

if it has to be new there should be 2060 or 5700 models at 300

[earnest olive]

strongly recommend used though..

lot of nice used gpus entering the market from people upgrading to 30 series

[little osprey]

5600xt going at 250 usd right now

actually it might be out of stock now

[earnest olive]

you also definitely should consider the i7-10700 or i7-10700K over the i9-9900K

the i7-10700K is better than the i9-9900K for cheaper unless you live near microcenter

and on a better platform

not nearly as hard to cool

[brittle tinsel]

amazon has a brand new i9-9900k for $400

[earnest olive]

yeah and you can get i7-10700 for like $280 or something

which has very little performance difference to a 9900K with power limits unlocked

[weak field]

someone tryna “adjust” this fo me

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qg3C68

[brittle tinsel]

some benchmarks i have seen showed i9-9900k handling warzone and other games while streaming better the the i7s or i5s

[earnest olive]

i7 what?

[brittle tinsel]

9600k

[earnest olive]

...

of course a 9900K is better than a 9600K

what i'm saying is that the i7-10700K is better than the i9-9900K

they are both 8C/16T skylake chips but the i7-10700K has a better IHS design that allows it to run cooler

@weak field that's my list what do you need adjusted?

[brittle tinsel]

even when streaming? i streamed tarkov for 12 hours on my current i5 3570 and i think i ran it to hot or something because it hasnt been the same since that 12 hour stream

[earnest olive]

they are both 8 cores and 16 threads

they are both on the same architecture

i7-10700K has higher clock speed and better thermal design

the 9900K being an i9 doesn't automatically make it better than the newer i7

you wouldn't pick an i7-860 over an i5-10600K

[weak field]

wdym

thats my list

it had a different name and all on my account

[earnest olive]

i made this list like 30 minutes ago lol it even has my manual overrides on it

[weak field]

i just made that in that in a ihop parking lot

[earnest olive]

🙄 whatever you say

[brittle tinsel]

i thought (example) say an i12 came out they stopped designing the older in this case i9

[earnest olive]

wait a minute

never mind i had the wrong link open LOL

mb

[weak field]

i just changed the ram

its good

[earnest olive]

hmm

[weak field]

to 16gb instead of 32 on the ss

[earnest olive]

don't go nzxt h510

[weak field]

ok

new case

[earnest olive]

what is the team ms30 256gb for?

[weak field]

extra storage

[earnest olive]

dram-less ssds are not good

[delicate bobcat]

Why not an hard drive if you need extra storage anyway

[weak field]

this is the right one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YkD3y4

[brittle tinsel]

wait the i7 10700k is lga1200 isnt lga1151 current intel sockets?

[earnest olive]

no

lga1200 is current

lga1151 is old

also that's a really high price for the corsair rm750

would get something else

great psu but it's definitely not worth $180

[weak field]

120

[earnest olive]

says 180 on my screen

also the b550 aorus elite will be fine for your needs

you aren't using the features of the x570

so you can save some money there

not a big fan of the corsair aio but i figure you like the looks of it so i'll leave it

it will get the job done

i'm not super knowledgeable about peripherals so i will leave those alone

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWzyK3

those are my recommended changes for you

[weak field]

thank you

[earnest olive]

np

if you're not a big fan of the td500 mesh

similar alternatives include

corsair icue 220t rgb
phanteks p400a mesh white

looks are subjective so you pick

I personally use a td500 mesh with front fans set to white, looks good to me

[brittle tinsel]

whats better 1660 ti or 2060? i noticed their both around the same price but the 2060 is a little more but has slower clock speeds?

[foggy hazel]

2060 is faster

[earnest olive]

2060

[foggy hazel]

you cannot compare clock speed directly like that

[warm sky]

yeh

very different cards

[topaz coyote]

what specs would i need for world of warcraft

[earnest olive]

clock speed is only a relevant performance indicator when comparing 2 of the same part

[brittle tinsel]

so the extra $60 for the 2060 is worth compared to the 1660 ti?

[earnest olive]

2060 are around $300

[warm sky]

yeh

I've got a 2060 atm, great for 1080p 60fps high

and it can do 1440p decently

[sharp pelican]

@topaz coyote

[earnest olive]

2060 is also a decent card for 144fps esports

[uncut pelican]

I think you should get a 3070

Just wait a few months then buy one

[foggy hazel]

@brittle tinsel https://www.anandtech.com/show/13973/nvidia-gtx-1660-ti-review-feat-evga-xc-gaming

[vapid mortar]

FE

[foggy hazel]

homework for you to read

[uncut pelican]

Don't buy an fe

[vapid mortar]

its chad

[earnest olive]

alright time to go write an essay goodbye

[warm sky]

cya

[little osprey]

wait guys, say i have 5V RGB fans, can i buy an 5v to 12v converter for my 12v RGB mobo?

[weak field]

im pretty sure

[little osprey]

alright i just needed to know that

thanks

[topaz coyote]

what specs would i need for world of warcraft

[little osprey]

depends

if you want budget or performance

[topaz coyote]

basically the gap between them

[little osprey]

whats your budget?

[brittle tinsel]

google and intel are useless, so last question before i stop bothering everyone, what chipset is the i7-10700k

[foggy hazel]

there is no chipset

the mainboard has a chipset

[little osprey]

LGA 1200

[brittle tinsel]

yeah i got that but like i9-9900k was z390, the 10700k doesnt have a z(something)?

[little osprey]

Z490

i believe

[foggy hazel]

aye, and a number of others

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199335/intel-core-i7-10700k-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz.html

click compatible products

[brittle tinsel]

alright alright finale question i promise, is the difference between the i7-10700 vs i7-10700k worth the $12 in your opinion? the i7-10700k is cheaper so im lost here

ive also heard that if intel doesnt have a k on the end than you cant overclock it

[barren crypt]

if im gonna practice / learn how to build pcs

i should start from the bottom right

like

gtx 1050

build lists

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel k means overclockable, that's the only difference

[brittle tinsel]

thanks!

[stoic island]

And side note, Intel's only real 'advantage' at the moment is overclocking..

[brittle tinsel]

i know, im just more comfortable with intel and nvidia, its what ive used for years and im not much for change if its not broken

[uncut pelican]

@barren crypt you can build with whatever parts you want they are pretty much all the same to put together just it might be hard to choose some parts and if your new to building then this is a great place to ask questions

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel I'm not trying to convince you away from intel, I'm saying you should get the -k chip because of Intel's advantage

[brittle tinsel]

i planned on it anyway since the i7-10700k is $12 cheaper which makes no sense

[barren crypt]

hows this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6q8d9N

[stoic island]

Gotcha

@barren crypt what's it for

[barren crypt]

learning how to build pcs

[warm sky]

wha

[stoic island]

What workloads

[barren crypt]

what

no im asking

is the build decent

[warm sky]

gaming, video editing etc

what will you be using it for

[barren crypt]

i wont be using it

[stoic island]

@barren crypt here's the thing

[warm sky]

what is its intended purpose

[barren crypt]

gaming

[stoic island]

Builds are worth differently for different purposes

[warm sky]

ok

[stoic island]

You need to specify gaming/streaming/blender/etc

[barren crypt]

i just did

[stoic island]

I'm saying why you should specify.

[barren crypt]

gaming

[stoic island]

It's for your information.

I'm not asking for no reason.

[barren crypt]

please just give me a yes or no

is it good

[stoic island]

No

[barren crypt]

ty

[brittle tinsel]

@stoic island would you mind giving me a second opinion?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=LQtTnQ <- is this good enough to stream and play AAA games (streaming from the game pc, not a dual pc setup) without issue?

[warm sky]

why the 2 120gb SSDs? are you running them in raid 0 or smthn?

[arctic jungle]

xD what

no

it's not good

it's very not good

[warm sky]

yeh

very unbalanced

[arctic jungle]

@barren crypt

[brittle tinsel]

unbalanced?

[warm sky]

only a 2060 but a 10700

[brittle tinsel]

i have a 250gb ssd for boot and a 500gb for games with slow load times

[arctic jungle]

@stoic island would you mind giving me a second opinion?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=LQtTnQ <- is this good enough to stream and play AAA games (streaming from the game pc, not a dual pc setup) without issue?
@brittle tinsel ditch the stupid amount of drives and get a 500 gb nvme drive, and a 4 tb 5400 rpm nas

u want nvme

not sata ssd

[warm sky]

or a p300, those come in 3tb sizes and are 7200rpm

and with zen 3 i wouldn't get a 10700 rn

[stoic island]

Hai there

[warm sky]

also RGB power supply

really

[brittle tinsel]

i dont know anything about nvme, i know what i picked out will work with that case and mb but i dont know anything about raid, m.2 or nvme

[still leaf]

how does this look https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pKkF8J

[stoic island]

But yea what the heck is with that storage setup

[warm sky]

yeh

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel to start off, what purposes, and what parts do you already own?

[warm sky]

play AAA games (streaming from the game pc, not a dual pc setup) without issue?

[brittle tinsel]

250gb ssd for boot, 500gb ssd for games with slow load times like tarkov, 2tb general purpose and 2tb for video game development

[warm sky]

the list has 2x 120gb ssds

[stoic island]

Oh and what budget?

I'm going to start editing it into what I'd do, brb.

[balmy patio]

sheesh

[brittle tinsel]

@brittle tinsel to start off, what purposes, and what parts do you already own?
@stoic island i dont own any of it, im looking before i buy, budget is $1500-2000 (lower side the better)

[stoic island]

Got it

[brittle tinsel]

the list has 2x 120gb ssds
@warm sky those are barracude 120, if you read right after it, it should say 250 gb and 500 gb

[warm sky]

o h

am blind

[rigid stone]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/88GBcT

is this a good budget build?

[balmy patio]

you can throw out the cooler and swap out that ssd for a nvme one

[warm sky]

just stick with stock cooler

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel My edits:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBnQ68

I'd do single NVMe 1tb drive for boot and games

that's what I personally have right now

[warm sky]

yeh, much nicer

[balmy patio]

ill see what i can do, assuming the budget is about 600 @rigid stone

[stoic island]

(I have a 960gb MP510 + 2tb barracuda)

[rigid stone]

bet @balmy patio

[brittle tinsel]

@brittle tinsel My edits:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KBnQ68
@stoic island thanks, but i would rather spend the extra 500 so that all the rgb syncs to my mouse, keyboard, mousepad and headset stand

[stoic island]

uh

I seriously wouldn't

when it gets you a 3070

[warm sky]

yeh

seriously

[stoic island]

and I'm pretty sure CM's argb can sync to whatever @brittle tinsel

[rigid stone]

@balmy patio ima be honest i just wanna know if my list is good for decent fps

[warm sky]

3070 is so many leagues above 2060

[brittle tinsel]

wouldnt a 3070 bottleneck a i7-10700k anyway?

[stoic island]

it has a bunch of adapters

@brittle tinsel throw bottlenecking out the window

[earnest ravine]

https://stockx.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-graphics-card-founders-edition-black?country=US&currencyCode=USD&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy579BRCPARIsAB6QoIbpi4ZusTKcOr_yD7ntf_IcaWsutVBj6CzAhTOiE0mP63j5S8ukm4YaAjYeEALw_wcB real?

[stoic island]

too hard to define as a yes or no

[warm sky]

mhm

[brittle tinsel]

idk about that, my cpu bottlenecks my current gpu and it sucks

by alot

[stoic island]

But would your CPU bottleneck the GPU in blender?

:P

[warm sky]

but...the 2060 would get bottlenecked by a 10700

[brittle tinsel]

it has

[stoic island]

what if you're playing at 8k

strains GPU much more than CPU

it's too hard to define as yes or no and the extent of bottlenecking

it's too broad

[earnest ravine]

https://stockx.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-graphics-card-founders-edition-black?country=US&currencyCode=USD&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy579BRCPARIsAB6QoIbpi4ZusTKcOr_yD7ntf_IcaWsutVBj6CzAhTOiE0mP63j5S8ukm4YaAjYeEALw_wcB real? @ somoeone

[brittle tinsel]

my current rig is a i5-3570 with a gtx 1080

[warm sky]

no wonder you have a cpu bottleneck

[stoic island]

meh

[brittle tinsel]

i know, after 45 minutes of streaming call of duty, i lose sound and cant run 2 programs at once unless i turn it off for about an hour after 45 minute cod stream

[stoic island]

what

[brittle tinsel]

i dont know why it does that tbh

[stoic island]

I don't know

sounds weird

[warm sky]

maybe overheating?

[stoic island]

but sound

[warm sky]

yeh....

weird

[stoic island]

sounds like a software issue

[warm sky]

motherboard overheating?

[brittle tinsel]

hell in warzone even without anything else open after 3 games the ingame temp tracker says the gpu hits 80 and thats when i lose sound in warzone

[warm sky]

or software yeh

[stoic island]

sound chip is nowhere near the VRMs in most boards

so I dunno how it would affect sound

[brittle tinsel]

i dont think this has a soundcard just whatever was on the mobo

[stoic island]

Yes

there's a sound chip on the mobo

[warm sky]

yeh

[stoic island]

like this

[warm sky]

sound cards aren't really a thing these days

[brittle tinsel]

ah

[stoic island]

that's a sound chip found on a good amount of motherboards

alc1200

[warm sky]

realtek right?

[stoic island]

mhm

[warm sky]

yeh most sound chips are by them I think

[stoic island]

there's also supremefx

[warm sky]

or at least from my experience

[brittle tinsel]

well googling those issues says its a misconfigured or outdated soundcard. using task manager while playing i notice the sound goes out when the cpu goes over 100%

but i dont know how accurate the ingame temp tracker or task manager is

[warm sky]

I use HWinfo for temps

[stoic island]

msi afterburner + RTSS is good

[hoary lichen]

Yo @stoic island is this build good