#building-and-recc-chat
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Which build
i can squeeze more performance with the 1650 but for a tiny cost
ohh
xdd
not mine
My cpu is alr 3rd isnt it?
what is iy
which cpu?
oh that ik
what gpu
5600xt?
Which brand
Which $ one
They seem to be out of my budget
What does oc mean?
Oh
Hows this
I was told to get it for future upgrades
Mhmm
Is the 5600xt good tho
The one i picked
K
K
b550 isn't overkill and that case is solid
might be able to find one with more fans and a little mesh around the price point but isn't a bad pick
Rate this @vital warren
And tell me if i should upgrade too 5600xt
and get new stuff
depends on what you can get the 5600 for
if you want gpu suggestions at a specific price point head to #graphics-cards
its $300
$700
Whats the difference
ik but what does it do
gaming
Occasional editing but nothing flashy
and school work
does anyone know what the asrock b450 pro4 mobo can handle
5700xt is bad
does anyone know what the asrock b450 pro4 mobo can handle
@silent canyon define handle
just get b550
rx 5700xt in a 700 build?
@vital warren my thoughts
the matx one
@arctic jungle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JYRLPV should i get a 5600xt in this build?
@arctic jungle https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JYRLPV should i get a 5600xt in this build?
@whole harbor 1660 ti
oh
microatx?
ehhh
antago did u just recommend a 1660ti over a 5600xt
@little osprey no over 1660 super
no 5600xt > 1660s > 1660ti
and it's got a budget
wasnt rx 5600xt just like on sale for 230 or something?
1660ti is a waste of money
1660ti is a waste of money
@little osprey no it's not :)
u can literally find a 5600xt dual fan for 250 usd what
1660 ti is good
nono 1660ti's performance over 1660s is def not worth the money
1660s and 1660ti are so close in performance and considering the price difference its not worth it
1660ti is a waste of money
@little osprey chill outttttt it defo is worth
theres a promo code for a dual fan asus 5600xt going for 250 usd
the price diff is abt 10-15$
how much is msrp for 1660ti ?
Uhh
how much is msrp for 1660ti ?
@little osprey it's like 220 ish
anyways i gtg bounce
dont u dare recommend a 2600 in 2020
so do i get a 5600xt
if u can even find one thats to begin with
The 3 3300x is better isnt it?
once again if u can FIND one
can you check build pics and tell me if my build is ok?
pick a saphire pulse
@little osprey asus dual fan 5600xt going for 250 usd
aaand it just got out of stock
fml
yeah
Just search it up lmfao
Da vinki do i go m.2 or m.1
@little osprey
it says it in the pcpartpicker i sent u
U said does m.2
Read ur msg
m.2 is the standard that's been on boards for years now
understandable
the real question is if you want to use a SATA M.2 or a NVMe M.2
Whats the difference
m.3 is far better
@eager chasm do i get a 5600xt or 1660 ti in a $700 build
SATA M.2 is the same speed as a normal SSD, NVMe SSDs use PCIe and are about 4-6 times faster than normal SSDs
But most games and applications dont even need NVMe speeds, it's more for things like heavy video editing
Reason: Bad word usage
Should i get a oc gpu?
or should i get reg
Y
Cause im going for the long term
Ik but it will last less
fans don't change color but ya got 3 fans
and mesh
Oooh
?
i'm so confused
leds do not make it warm you're fine
atleast nothing you'll ever need to worry about
42x20
In
Im putting it on another shelf i have tho
Or the floor
Prob the floor
?
Its the floot
Where im gonna put it
Ok so what now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGkCz7 rate this build
anyone
I/O cables, where do they go in the motherboard
@little osprey thanks
Here are the specific pins @little osprey
What
@little osprey this is literally the manual for the aorus master
How could he have a different manual
Si
is an i5 10400 for 100$ a good deal
:)
It's good
Lol no
@silent canyon with a b460 board you can get a decent cheap build with that.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9wHYgt @stoic island what u think of this
Again, it's fine
I updated it
could you sen me a mobo link? i dont know a whole lot about intel
X570 aorus master, 5900x, 6800xt, nzxt x63
ok
@silent canyon
okay
500gb is enough to start off
K
It'll last you a few months.
K
Unless you have a ton of crap
@little osprey just because it's cheap doesn't make it a good ssd
Mhm
I thought MS30 was a good SSD
Until I used it for a few months
HMMM
idk
One sec
This
AOC C24G1 24" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, FHD 1080p, 1500R VA panel, 1ms 144Hz, FreeSync, Height adjustable, VESA, 3-Year Zero Dead Pixels https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GD7H18F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_AuZPFbRW6YWVF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
165hz for cheaper
Send link
you can get the extra 25hz by oc your monitor and using display port
What ms
Bak
just a different option
So the nzxt63 has an rgb connector that doesn’t go anywhere in the mobo, do I need to buy an rgb controller?
You sure?
What does it say on the header?
@little osprey what kind of header is it?
What does mprt mean
Moving picture smth
Looks like 12v rgb maybe
Can you check manual for what it is?
Wait
That's a header
Hm
Hm
its the part that fits in a female plug "from" something
aye
but it IS nzxt we are talking about here
@little osprey check the manual again for what it is
hey does anyone know anything about pc optimizing?
The aio manual
Yeah I was thinking that too @little osprey
if its usb
My guess is extender
hook it up
a simpler question @little osprey
Lemme check manual for extender
what does the other end of the cable look like? :)
It just connects directly into the pump
I need to buy one? No adapter came in the box
hey guys i just built a pc with a 3080 and when i wake my pc from sleep i get a blue screen, not bsod just blue, sometimes black too, any help?
X
anyone?
dont put it to sleep
turn it off
restart it and try it again
power down and give it a couple minutes
@little leaf yo
I mean it is announced as an rgb aio but you need to buy adapters for the rgb to work out of the box? Doesn’t make sense to me
@stoic island @foggy hazel i was told to ask you guys to he,p me with my problem
and @weak field ive restarded it multipule times and nothing
is the cord plugged in all the way to the monitor and gpu
yeees
So I don’t need that connector at all?
:(
I have the usb 2 and sata connected
Yo
@vivid thorn who told you to ask us?
Can someone help me with a pc issue?
uhm they said not to tell you
@tranquil wren ask your question, and if someone knows/wants to help, they will answer :)
lol
@vivid thorn cant help you then.
@foggy hazel ok
well can you help me? i just built a pc with a 3080 and when i wake my pc from sleep i get a blue screen, not bsod just blue, sometimes black too
wait why
@foggy hazel droq told me
that means he tried to help you in #general-chat ?
me?
i ask, because if he did, there is text i can grab from there instead of asking you about details
yes, you.
i dont even remeber
why is this such a big deal? can someone just offer some help lol
trying to save time.
Just need cpu and gpu now
i asked for help in general and i was told to come here and talk to u or a techie
@whole harbor go for mp34 on the SSD if you can. it would be worth it for you
aside from that, it could be a nice little machine
my issue is that when i wake up from sleep i get a blue screen, not bsod just blue
@vivid thorn and what have you tried?
@foggy hazel wat brand
uhm i did an sfc/scannow, updated all drivers and disabled hibernate
@whole harbor there is only one called mp34 :) (its Team)
what price?
should be quite close to the one you have there
@whole harbor short simpler answer: speed and quality
?
ssd are good (very good) for loading things fast and for general responsiveness of the system
@vivid thorn simple solution: dont use sleep.
...
I have a question
Lol
Well don't you think I'm trying to fix it because I want to use sleep
Is Celeron g4930 good processor?
@vivid thorn i dont know. because you have not said anything yet.
If I was content I wouldnt come here
and i try my hardest to not make assumptions about what kind of things users want to solve
remember @vivid thorn
i cannot read your mind
you have to say what you want to fix and what is wrong
@foggy hazel Is Celeron g4930 good processor?
@ashen girder for a office machine? its "okay-ish"
Well if you can't read my mind then why would you assume me trying to fix something and not get it fixed would be okay
@foggy hazel for content creation
What info?
@foggy hazel what do I need to do
you are going to be miserable doing it. but it will work. <- @ashen girder
?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6J4RTJ @foggy hazel is there anything i need to improve this pc
@ashen girder by that it means it will barely work and make it so you never want to again
Getting a 3300x
Thats what
Thats if its ever in stock
129 if available
It isnt
Gonna get 3100
It never is
The 3300x has t been instock since launch
backorder
Where?
5 5600x anywhere 
@foggy hazel 3300x for $129 if avaliable but 3 3100 for $120 if not
your choice on the CPU @whole harbor. rest of list is okay. best of luck getting the cpu.
@vivid thorn have you tried a reset of windows yet?
Is the 3100 worth it tho?
you seem to think it is, since you listed it
it is only you that can answer that question @whole harbor
Im on a iphone 7 rn
there computers
@vivid thorn telling fibs is NOT appreciated.
and 2k for feet on a pc
@weak field dont u think ur name is a bit late
havent changed jt since 3 days b4
Still
i gotchu
bababooey
better?
Yes
heya
Who knew a cooler could be over $100
lol there no president xD
how do yall even live there
Its a prime minister
lol
not in a douchebagish way
Wait wtf only $2k for that beefy pc
but does they have a spell to lower prices
ok but the parts are good ?
yeah should be fine
sure ?
people said that neo are good for amd
CAD $ btw
case
ram its like 100 us mobo 195 case 150 us
yo guys i need some advice on an upgrade
@versed maple that is the OLD list
ah
oh rlly ?
naed and the tommahawk
fairly certain things have changed from that one at least once
oh yes Squid, i see it.
@versed maple has your budget gone up since the first time you asked?
magic money
whts a good fan hub that can hold in 9 fans?
because that is not the budget i have attached to you in my memory @versed maple
o-11 dynamic
oh
Y splitters and a nc-fc1 <- @still bay
@foggy hazel i cant find those anywhere when i look up nc-fc1 it shows my like some child form thingy and y splliters are liek not what it hink it is
ill just get the commander pro and ge a diff case
child form thingy?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2zBsXb is this a good build
that
if you wanna commit die
you can split the output from that a silly amount of times
then yes its perfect
?
@still bay its a build
what
and if you are okay with paying that for it. go for it
wdym
I’m building my pc and it’s not booting, any suggestions?
That’s what I’m doing rn
make sure its plugged in (im not trolling)
I mean they are all lighting up but no connection with the monitor
Yes it is
cpu cables
whats ur cpu
Ryzen 9
which one
3900x
Asus rog strix b550 E
not board
hm
which gpu do you have
sucks ur cpu has no integrated graphics so its hard to check if its that
No I don’t have any
????
I don’t have any spare cpu
@lime sage which GPU do you have?
I haven’t installed it yet
um...
how are you expecting a screen output then?
....
plug in your gpu
ur cpu doesnt have integrated graphics
ur fine
....
@lime sage nothing to be sorry about.
just plug in ur gpu and then try
^^
Okay thank you I’ll try that
thats something i didnt kno that the ryzen 9 didnt have integrated graphics
i dont think any ryzens except G's have graphics
@still bay I would change the mobo and case you can save some cash
but the mobo is sexy
^^^
do u mean a e s t h e t i c s
@still bay you aint gonna be dating the mobo
i have those fans theyre really good
that what u think
they get a lil noisy when maxed out
ik the mobo is expesnive asf
i do agree youll leave some performance on the table tho ye
It worked! Thank you guys!
yup
np
lol
smexy
wasted money on looks
130$ on cl18ram
this has got to be a joke
you dont need aesthetics as much as performance and saving money
theres much better deals
ditching that case and fans / fan hub will save you hundreds
ok im getting crucial ballistix calm down with the ram
rather than spending that much because something looks good, but if you wanna spend that much then go for it
Is OLOy ram good?
It's solid but you can't get 3600 cl16 with it
Good for budget builds where you don't have the budget for that though
What is cas latency?
And whats the difference between 16 and 18? Which is faster/better?
Ohhh ok
Would a system with a Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 Super be bottlenecked?
Okay thanks
the 3600 goes with anything except for the newer 3080/3090 6900xt cards
its the “sweetspot”
So an RTX 2060 would also be good?
no
quite better than the 1660 super
Okay thanks
id watch some benchmarks to see if its worth the price difference for the xtra performance
up to you tho
Makes sense
if you think its worth it go for it, if not then dont
Good point
Would a Ryzen 5 3600 bottleneck with a RTX 3070?
No
prob not
That's a good pairing
Ok
Is 3200 mhz for RAM like the least you should get for an AMD build?
Cuz I have a mac right now(yes ewww) and it has horrible specs that would make Linus Tech Tips cry
ive updated https://pcpartpicker.com/list/psXXbh
12 GB DDR3 1333mhz
Intel Core i5 (doesn't say which)
Integrated graphics (512 mb Vram)
Just terrible
It lagged on the chrome dinosaur game once
Not joking
Can't even get 60 fps on a browser game
Lol
Reason: Bad word usage
Even csgo loads in like 5 minutes
Bruh, my modded fallout 4 game on console doesn't even take that long g to load wtf?
fallout 4 fun
And csgo is an esport title, so its optimized for lesser machines
really think i want a “barett .50 cal” thats just a pip revolver with a scope and modded damage
Don't forget that its over 500mb too
Lol
Probably not, but it feels like it sometimes
The Bow mod used to be 460ish MB, like thats a 1/4 of my mod storage
yeah i only got 1gb
mostly just test bunkers and stuff
get all my loot early game and just have fun
is it okay to just have a 2tb seagate barracuda as your only drive for your os and other stuff?
I mean sure
If you wanna run into the same problem Kidman did with his mac
Taking centuries to load a game
what parts are good for planning to only play low demanding games like minecraft and csgo?
If im gonna get a dedicated graphics card (preferably a 1080 or better) what should i get? Im hiping for something super cheap but still reliable and somewhat decent performance in aaa games
Also your OS needs to be prioritized on a faster drive
Even having a 250gb nvme m.2 ssd would be perfect
Then pair it with that hdd
do some people buy m.2 drives just to load the OS on it?
Yeah
Install your os and software you use often on an ssd everything else goes on the hdd
makes sense
If im gonna get a dedicated graphics card (preferably a 1080 or better) what should i get? Im hiping for something super cheap but still reliable and somewhat decent performance in aaa games
@deep violet Radeon RX 5600 XT
id get a 500/512gb for os and software aswell as most used games
or a 1650 super
maybe a 1660 if thats in budget
$250 right now on Newegg, and it's comparable to a rtx 2060, just with no Ray tracing
@sharp tundra @weak field @sharp tundra thanks guys
Np
RTX 3090 or RX 6900 XT? if you have a G-Sync monitor?>
Is this SSD good https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N5IB20Q/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@idle compass you wanna load your OS it right?
Get the NMVe M.2 SSD
Much faster
Get the NMVe M.2 SSD
@sharp tundra I have one already with my OS on it
Would that be a good drive for games?
Oh, then why are you showing my a 240gb Sata ssd then?
I said would that be a good aditional drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yJwMvf the card i got is not specific its just a 3080 in general
But yes, just getting bigger storage
thats COD in a nutshell
Or hdd
Can you reccomend me one good 2 tb sata ssd then
get the samsung evo plus
“oh man i cant wait to download some games on my new pc”
“install failed: mot enough space for download”
“but i have 1tb of nvme m.2”
warzone: well yes but actually no
extreamly fast m.2
s p e e d
You only get a 240gb sata ssd id you are on a serious budget but need to put your OS on something faster than an hdd
20$ more and you can get a 500gb crucial p2 500gb m.2 nvme
^
I heard some people saying that the samsung evo plus drives are overrated and you can better ones for cheaper
Yes, with samsung you are paying a little more for the name, but its still a good drive
Corsair mp600 1tb is almost $200
If that says anything about paying for the name
yes samsung is expensive but they have insane read / write times
if you are on a budget then I would stray away from samsung I guess
i personally use the pro version
sure is , but the speed is insane
Please tell me you got a good gpu
Smh, you bought a $350 drive and have 2 not so good gpus?
not atm
im going to put that drive into the new pc im building with a 6K budget
im going to grab amother samsung pro 1TB
Is it possible to build a actually functional gaming build for 500 USD?
ig thats alright
Bruh, I thought my 1tb evo was overkill
lol
got u with that good good uhd
@idle compass functional? yes. Good? not really
Idk, ltt threw one together that was pretty alright
@idle compass functional? yes. Good? not really
@foggy hazel could you build a good office pc and very light video editing one?
For 500 usd you could also do a refurbished dell optiplex and slap a 1650 super in there
@idle compass it would be a PITA at that budget
my budget is 1k usd for gaming i was just wondering if it was possible
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Prime-Kaos/saved/ I might replace the 3090 with the AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT what you guys think?
Definitely
why wouldnt you replace the 3090 with the 6900xt?
Eww intel
that too, not necessarily ew, but why not one of the 5000 series?
whats the best gaming pc for a 1k usd budget
Guess im getting a amd r9 5950x and RX 6900 Xt
might as well, SAM will give some extra performance too
whats the best gaming pc for a 1k usd budget
@idle compass now that a budget that'll get you something pretty good
180$ for 3200mhz ram
aorus master maybe
whats the best AM4 MOBO?
@tame hazel any x570
But let's say you are on a budget, then a b550
looking for max performance
i was gonna get a drink and i moved some stuff to get to the juice
and theres eggnog!
do i risk it
oct 23
@tame hazel ROG Strix x570-e is the one I plan on getting kater
x570 aorus ultra, or ROG crosshair VIII hero prolly
only live once
Yeah crosshair VIII is some of the best that you can get
@idle compass now that a budget that'll get you something pretty good
@sharp tundra could you help me decide what parts are best for that budget? im unsure of what is good or not
Besides the crazy one with the water cooling that's like 1k usd
that one was limited edition i think
thats a badass mobo
sup
@sharp tundra could you help me decide what parts are best for that budget? im unsure of what is good or not
@idle compass I could give you my build, its around that budget, more or less
I'll change some things up for you
Rgb might be sacrificial
this eggnog mad good
too sweet and thick tho
Its for a friend
should I get a AMD GPU if I have a G-sync monitor? or just stick with the 3090?
@idle compass do you have peripherals?
@idle compass do you have peripherals?
@sharp tundra yea i do already'
Good, more money for good stuff then
BEEEEERRNIEEEEEEEEEEE
@idle compass do you have a monitor?
@sharp tundra yes
i have a monitor already
mor money for pc
Different between 1660 ti vs 1660 super
Cool, like I said, more money for good stuff
I heard super was better
fr?
but at that point jus get the 5600xt
I'm not entirely sure
Good evening
How are you
good, you?
Good thanks
Same haha
might watch some 2chainz most expensiveest
Im in the car for the next 1.5 hours soo
@idle compass https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rJPbht
It aint terrible i would like to be in my bed rn tbh
@idle compass now thats not including tax shipping or Windows 10
yeah i heard windows 10 is like 100 usd
$110
eh i mean a windows 10 key is like 20 bucks in some places
yeah i heard windows 10 is like 100 usd
@idle compass depdnds on where and how you buy
I wouldn't know
thats a pro key for 17 bucks
yeah but the thing is it legit or no
yeah
ok good
but its just the key
you have to get the free micorsoft thing on a usb
then input the key
Is the Ryzen 3 3100 good for great 1660ti
dont you like download it on a usb stick on a seperate pc and boot it up
from the usb
yeah
Is the Ryzen 3 3100 good for great 1660ti
@polar anvil its great, only that if you don't have the 1660ti yet i recommend getting a 5600xt instead
Someone gonna have to run me through that when my pc is built cause I have no idea how to do that
is linux free?
ok
Your system will crash a lot if you try running games on linux
You got another drive planned out?
Wym?
512gb isn't alot
@sharp tundra im prob gonna be playing 1-3 games
Ight then
are any new motherboards coming for amd's 5000 series? or will they only use the current ones
i was told to get my current one because its better @weak field
As long as its not MW
512 is enough
Nael told me too
they use b550 and x570
okay, would you like to add more storage and eat into performance nomad?
but theres gonna be x670 i think if the rumors are true
any eta on release date?
nope
:/
okay, would you like to add more storage and eat into performance nomad?
@vital warren he could move games between drives without compromising speed and performance
is the 5000 series the last one x570 will support?
Probably
im trying to figure out what kind of mobo to get and i want it to be future proof a bit
i'm saying adding more storage eats into budget
It already supports 3k and 5k series
Well yeah, but he can get an hdd, for dirt cheap
he can get that later
Yes?
it's best to get more storage later and add the extra money onto gpu or cpu
storage prices should be really good on black friday
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here? Im aware he only needs 512gb so whats the deal?
making a general statement because you're trying to sell the idea going overboard on storage on a budget is a good idea
I'm not selling that idea
is their any other os's besides windows and linux?
storage prices should be really good on black friday
@tame hazel when's black feiday
And he said nothing about a budget until after he asked if it was good, so I recommend more storage
November 27 look out for cyber monday too
aight thanks
November 30
is their any other os's besides windows and linux?
@idle compass Mac
is their any other os's besides windows and linux?
@idle compass yes, there is
No
None that anyone would consider tho
Mac OSX is UNIX based
is their any other os's besides windows and linux?
@idle compass chrome, mac, unix, ubunty a bunch
ubuntu is a linux distro no?
I thought so
yeppers
oh yeah i know that one
Hello, I'm trying to build a computer for the first time and I don't have the best knowledge of what the parts are for. What does the Motherboard do and what should I look for in it?
I bought a $1000 pc to play glub penguin
lmfao
Lol
im spending 6K to play minecraft at 4K with ray tracing
Hello, I'm trying to build a computer for the first time and I don't have the best knowledge of what the parts are for. What does the Motherboard do and what should I look for in it?
the motherboard is basically the main component of a pc, where all of your other parts attach into @little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/ is a good start
depending on the budget of the PC you want to build you will be looking for different things in it
Ah. Thank you!
So far I have saved links to parts for My CPU, GPU, RAM and my case. I'm not sure what else I need other than a motherboard and cooling.
Hello, I'm trying to build a computer for the first time and I don't have the best knowledge of what the parts are for. What does the Motherboard do and what should I look for in it?
@little osprey vrms and connectivity mostly
im spending 6K to play minecraft at 4K with ray tracing
@tame hazel why not 8k?
Was wanting an opinion, I've been getting parts as I see them for a good price or just in stock. Should I wait til I have everything or start putting the things I have in my case?
Cable management
Ah. Thank you!
So far I have saved links to parts for My CPU, GPU, RAM and my case. I'm not sure what else I need other than a motherboard and cooling.
@little osprey you should be aware that your parts need to be compatible with one another, for example not all CPUs can fit into one motherboard etc
Was wanting an opinion, I've been getting parts as I see them for a good price or just in stock. Should I wait til I have everything or start putting the things I have in my case?
@iron berry Depends, usually as long as you have the mobo and case you can place it inside and hook up front panel cables and go from there.
tt4tgtgeg
you can use https://pcpartpicker.com/ as other people suggested in order to get some help with gathering your parts
Ok, thanks.
make sure you cool your CPU!@little osprey and have enough case fans
if you do not cool your CPU you wont get very far
Ah
Sure you will
Get pretty far in debt when you have e to rebuild your machine from scratch
Ok, thanks.
@little osprey as long as you're not going for a very advanced or enthusiast pc, your best bet with building one as a beginner is to search for guides within your budget
youtube is a very good way to get help since they offer help with how to build it
Ah
I'll look at those but I'd consider myself pretty far in so far
Then again I'm a beginner so I can be wrong
@little osprey make sure all parts are compatible cross reference them to make sure they are supported
https://pcpartpicker.com/ does help with that
Ye, I'll use it in a bit to make sure
anyone here got there hands on a RTX 3080 or 3090?
i dont have hands
psychokinesis
Is it possible to put a 3700x in my asus b450-F gaming mobo?
if its updated
Hm
Considering getting 32 gigs of ram and my cpu cooler won’t allow that so I’d get a 3700x for that cpu cooler and it’s an upgrade so for Xmas I can get a 3080
Wait
2x16 exists doesn’t it
Okay ignore all that
does it have a fan?
@tame hazel
is it rubbing up against something maybe a fan cable?
i had heard that sone psu fans are just like that
being noisy
usually the cheaper ones
its just the rod they spin on
auegh
or somethin
has it always made that sound?
well it’s not making the sound anymore
has it always made that sound?
@tame hazel yeah
you dont hear wind turbulence do you?

