#building-and-recc-chat

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versed rock
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No.

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No.

stoic island
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no

versed rock
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Do NOT look at NZXT

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Blacklist NZXT from your entire internet connection.

stoic island
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lol

versed rock
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Never touch an NZXT product

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They are all worthy of one place. The dumpster, lit on fire.

stoic island
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NZXT makes only 1 good thing that I know

jagged ember
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AAA

stoic island
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the GPU aio mounting bracket, and that's because I don't know of anyone else that makes one

jagged ember
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nzxt prebuilt not good

stoic island
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No prebuilts are good

wary geode
versed rock
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Corsair makes one.

wary geode
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go to this its cheapeer

versed rock
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No.

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Stop

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Get some help

jagged ember
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oh, wait i seem to be wrong

stoic island
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prebuilts are generally so bad that NZXT is actually relatively decent

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because it doesn't just not work

gaunt vortex
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That is a very swedish pc

stoic island
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but it's still horrible

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@gaunt vortex not enough meatballs

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and furnature :D

jagged ember
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missing the logo, too

versed rock
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The logo is the Ninja Logo.

little osprey
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Who makes the best prebuilts

versed rock
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Nobody

jagged ember
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you do

versed rock
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They are all trash

jagged ember
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wait but then it's not prebuilt...

versed rock
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You, as a consumer can build a PC yourself better than 99.99999% of the prebuilt makers.

stoic island
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mhm

wary geode
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actually the prebuilts i make are killer

versed rock
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The 0.0001% is the boutique makers that would cost you your kidney to have them build a reasonable PC.

stoic island
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only time prebuilts are viable is either really low budget on sale, or time constraint and good sale.

little osprey
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I’m not getting a prebuilt I’m just wondering

gaunt vortex
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I used to think the same thing, but then I met the average consumer.

wary geode
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10100 and 1060 6gb for 550 with 16gb ram and a 1200 b460 board

versed rock
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That's a terrible build...

wary geode
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dats what i usually make

stoic island
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not too bad tho

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at 550$

balmy girder
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Whats wrong with nzxt? I've heard good things about them

wary geode
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buddy wtf i have to make a tiny profit

stoic island
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I'd go 3100+1650s

versed rock
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A Ryzen 3 3100 or 3300X kicks the crap out of a 10100

wary geode
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and i dont use intel stock usually

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actually no

versed rock
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Yes it does.

stoic island
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NZXT?

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price and cooling

wary geode
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ive tested it theres little to no dfifference

versed rock
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It's called Upgradability

stoic island
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lel

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NZXT Aios are way overpriced

versed rock
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That's where the Ryzen platform kicks the crap out of Intel.

stoic island
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cases generally have no airflow

wintry gust
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Hey @foggy hazel what is a good water coolant and motherboard for this? I ordered this processor: AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 12-Core 3.8 GHz I checked my water coolant system I do not have the original bracketing anymore.. it got lost. 😦

stoic island
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what else does NZXT even make

versed rock
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Motherboards lol

stoic island
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water... coolant... system..?

versed rock
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Fans

stoic island
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oh yea

balmy girder
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Ok, is there a better brand I should look at then?

stoic island
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their motherboards are trash

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absolute trash

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I hear a lot about their bios being just

versed rock
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Todah, just give us a budget you are willing to spend.

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And we will build a list for you.

stoic island
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missing options

jagged ember
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nzxt makes motherboards?

stoic island
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and all

jagged ember
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what?

stoic island
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stay away from them

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bios issues

versed rock
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They have a Z370 and I think Z490 motherboard.

jagged ember
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i thought all they made were water coolers and bad airflow cases

stoic island
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yea

wintry gust
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I got like 400 dollars left for a motherboard, and water coolant.

next kestrel
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they also make psus

little osprey
balmy girder
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And we will build a list for you.
@versed rock
I've made atleast 10 lists by now, I could make a list with my budget lol

jagged ember
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oh, goodness

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NZXT PSU?

gaunt vortex
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Does anyone have links for like, a good 400-500 super budget build?

stoic island
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oh yea

next kestrel
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they arent all bad

versed rock
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400 to 500?

stoic island
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NZXT PSUs are surprisingly decent

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except overpriced

wary geode
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i mean i do switch platforms but intewl is just cheaper for me

stoic island
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which is the imporant part

versed rock
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Buy a Dell Optiplex and slap a GPU in it.

next kestrel
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at that price just buy used

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or get a super upgradable one

versed rock
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A Used Dell Optiplex at that I should say.

balmy girder
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Ik u could build osmehting better for cheaper, but I just want something that runs premier pro and stuff, nothing insane. Just a simple prebuilt. I'll be doing very little gaming regardless

versed rock
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And preferably a Full Tower one

next kestrel
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with a 3400G and a really good psu

jagged ember
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oof 500 is tight

little osprey
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@wary geode

gaunt vortex
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I know someone looking for a super budget pc for their kid, trying to see the lowest cost option I can give them.

little osprey
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Website

wary geode
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si senor

uncut pelican
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I have a question, basic steps to do a fresh install of windows?

wary geode
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i dont have ze one yet

versed rock
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Panic, a Dell Optiplex with a 1650 in it would be your best option

wary geode
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im in the process getting payments ready fro nect month

jagged ember
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or get used parts

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but that takes digging

wary geode
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i have 7 orders lol

jagged ember
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then again, so does an optiplex

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what is the kid trying to do with the pc?

little osprey
jagged ember
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oh, the price is 2060

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wack

versed rock
gaunt vortex
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I think mostly school / minimal gaming.

uncut pelican
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@little osprey why that ram?

jagged ember
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jesus that ram is overpriced

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125 for 16gb of 3600 ram

wary geode
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and put ssd int here

uncut pelican
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^^

jagged ember
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the SSD is fine, but idk if the SX8200 pro or the MP34 is cheaper

next kestrel
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its canadian dollars

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and 3600CL16

jagged ember
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you can get the gskill set instead

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it costs less than 125

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SX8200 pro costs less at 512gb

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wondering if they need a 650W PSU if they only draw under 400W

gaunt vortex
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I have an old Intel H110 ITX system sitting around I might replace the guts of, might see if I can do anything with that.

jagged ember
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@little osprey

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someone else take a look and see if they can do better

gaunt vortex
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I keep forgetting Intel is expensive for "reasons"

stuck sonnet
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Holy gpus kinda pracy atm no?

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Pricy

balmy patio
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eh

gray stone
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The old family computer is inoperable, so I got permission to dismantle it. It had an AMD Athlon 2 CPU with Kingston 4x1GB RAM and a weak power supply

balmy patio
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you could go for a cheaper mobo and with the left overs add a 2060 and a 600w psu, ill try to make things better @jagged ember

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if not then it should be good how it is

stuck sonnet
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If he can find a 2060

jagged ember
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ehh

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you right

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but just wondering if a 600w psu is even needed

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if they want to upgrade later on then probably

balmy patio
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true true

weak field
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prices went up since yesterday drastically

jagged ember
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also yeah

gaunt vortex
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lololol... a i3-7100 is the same price as a 3100 for a 7482 lower score on CPU Mark....

jagged ember
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PSU prices suck

vital jacinth
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Hi guys , i have that motherboard and as you can see the circles for m2 slots , i have a question about them. I have samsung NVMe M2 970 EVO for OS and M2 SATA 860 EVO for gaming. Which ssd shoud go to which slot ?

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weak field
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almost 100$ for a 512gb nmve m.2????????

jagged ember
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hmm

weak field
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doesnt really matter

jagged ember
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check the manual

weak field
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ones gonna get hotter

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cuz the pcie

balmy patio
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bruh its canada

stuck sonnet
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True

balmy patio
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relax

weak field
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graphics

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card

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go vroom

jagged ember
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see which m.2 slot is the latest generation

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then plug in the 970 into that one

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if they're the same, go wild

balmy patio
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wait whats the dude's budget @jagged ember

jagged ember
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it was 500

vital jacinth
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just one of them has cooling pad , other doesnt

stuck sonnet
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Ohhh

jagged ember
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he just needs the parts i listed in my list

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oh cool

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bet #2 has better cooling than the cooling pad

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not that it really matters unless you're moving a sustained load

stoic island
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@vital jacinth M.2_1 always for main SSD

stuck sonnet
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A god has spoken

jagged ember
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thank

vital jacinth
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Ty guys for anwers

stoic island
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m.2_2 sometimes only get 2 lanes, sometimes only sata, etc.

gaunt vortex
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Thoughts on the Ryzen 5 2600 currently on sale?

small osprey
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No

uncut pelican
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I have mixed feelings

gaunt vortex
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so I guess the question then is 3100 vs 2600

versed rock
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Neither?

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3600

gaunt vortex
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Don't need that much

jagged ember
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Lol if you can afford a 3600 go for it

gaunt vortex
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Not looking at main build

versed rock
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Why not?

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Wait

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Is this for that kid?

gaunt vortex
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no, this would be for my secondary comp, and then just giving away my old secondary comp

versed rock
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Oh

gaunt vortex
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This pc would not be used for gaming or anything really

versed rock
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I mean, if you just need a secondary computer, grab a Dell Optiplex off ebay

jagged ember
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Yeah basically

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If it's just for word processing or something

versed rock
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80 bucks and the bidding ends soon.

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Even has a DVD drive in it.

stuck sonnet
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Woahhhh

gaunt vortex
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It's for light server type stuff mostly.

jagged ember
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Oh god

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Dvd drive

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Begone

stuck sonnet
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I require a floppy disc

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Good old days

gaunt vortex
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I use it mostly a dev machine

jagged ember
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I only accept tape

stuck sonnet
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Of not knowing why that was there

jagged ember
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It's the only old storage that is actually still relevant

versed rock
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Well, that would certainly work as a dev machine.

gaunt vortex
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I also have everything else except a cpu/motherboard, so I just need those to slot in there. spending a "little" extra is fine

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I just know I don't need a 3600 and above lol

versed rock
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Although, I don't know why you need 2 machines for dev work

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Just spool up a VM on your main machine

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GG you have 2 PC's on one.

stuck sonnet
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Haha

jagged ember
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Bigbrain

gaunt vortex
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because I keep that one running 24/7 and have it set so clients can access things on it

stoic island
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3100>2600 for gaming

gaunt vortex
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I don't want that on my main PC for obvious reasons lol

jagged ember
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Yeah

stuck sonnet
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Ah le nides

versed rock
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Just throw everything into Docker Containers.

stuck sonnet
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All them corn videos

jagged ember
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I love corn

gaunt vortex
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the type of clients I have right now would have zero idea what those are.

jagged ember
versed rock
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What I mean is, you containerize the part they can access.

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I'm also, at that point very confused as to what you do where you have clients that need data from a PC you own, that they don't just already have.

stuck sonnet
versed rock
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Don't buy Assrock boards.

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Do you NEED Wi-Fi?

stuck sonnet
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This is a back up back up build. No need of wifi

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Any suggestions?

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Lol assrock

trail shuttle
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Does anyone know the difference between windows 10 and 10 pro

versed rock
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If you don't already know the difference, don't buy Windows 10 Pro

gaunt vortex
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group policy, bitlocker

trail shuttle
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ok but whats the difference @versed rock

versed rock
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🤦

trail shuttle
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idk

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chill

versed rock
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You likely don't need to know the difference if you are just a normal consumer playing vidya gamez

gaunt vortex
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I think the point is "if you don't know about the features in it, you're not using them, and it doesn't matter"

stuck sonnet
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pro just has more features like uhh remote etc... stuff u don't really need for personal use.

versed rock
stuck sonnet
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Le ty

little osprey
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fricky dicky why p1

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p300a will need two more fans @versed rock

stoic island
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I wouldn't do CXm

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otherwise fine

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And I'd grab a MX330-g air for 3 included fans

stuck sonnet
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Hmm I did want that other case though

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Td500 so sexy

stoic island
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I'm going to make some personal preference changes

versed rock
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Why go all-out on a case when it's a backup build?

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🤔

stuck sonnet
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Cause the person liked the one I build before and wanted that specific case lol

stoic island
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slap in td500 mesh if you want

versed rock
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TD500 Mesh is just a bit too expensive IMO

ruby jungle
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Hi. Im building in a Be Quiet! DARK Base Pro 900 rev.2 and using a 240mm AIO. Im planning to do front mounted using a push/pull with the front fans.

Should I add more fans to the case? I was considering adding two on top as exhaust and one at bottom as an intake. Will also have my PSU set for intake.

Suggestions would be great. Thank you.

stoic island
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I love it when budget allows

versed rock
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You should throw the AIO out.

stuck sonnet
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Thank you too borh

stoic island
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great airflow good consensus on looks

versed rock
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I also wouldn't build in a Dark Base Pro 900 either.

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Bad case

stuck sonnet
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I mean i wasn't trying to keep the budget under 1k. More like under 1.2k

versed rock
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All Cases without mesh front, bad.

stuck sonnet
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Hey :( they deserve love too

versed rock
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No, they don't.

stuck sonnet
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My first build was no mesh lol

versed rock
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There's a grand total of 2 cases that are ok without a mesh front.

stuck sonnet
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But yes I agree

versed rock
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Sliger Cerberus, and Lian Li 0-11D (and variants)

stoic island
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I mean like corsair 4000d airflow

little osprey
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this is what i got

stoic island
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technically a metal front

versed rock
red sage
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how much more is a 4x8 kit than a 2x16 kit of ram

versed rock
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Look at this sexy piece of work

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Don't buy 4x8

ruby jungle
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Assuming you were to build in that in the dark base 900, what airflow configuration would you use?

stoic island
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buy 2x16

versed rock
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I wouldn't build in the DB900

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I'd return it for a better case

ruby jungle
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Okay, assuming better full tower case was acquired, how would you run your aio and fan configuration? This is my first desktop build.

versed rock
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I wouldn't use an AIO

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I'd return the AIO for an Air Cooler instead.

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Also Full Tower overrated

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Mid-Tower ATX goat

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Also, you haven't even said what CPU you have.

stuck sonnet
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I do like mid towers. Full feel like u just have a giant brink.

ruby jungle
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Ryzen 9 5900x

versed rock
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Uhh

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That don't exist yet buddy

ruby jungle
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Or 3900x if they sell out

jagged ember
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What

little osprey
jagged ember
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Oh

little osprey
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Any recommendations

ruby jungle
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They will on Thursday

jagged ember
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It's not built yet lol

versed rock
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Good luck getting one.

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And why do you need one?

ruby jungle
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Adobe suite

versed rock
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X to doubt

ruby jungle
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No gaming

jagged ember
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X to doubt

little osprey
jagged ember
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Just go for a 3600 or something

versed rock
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I run the Adobe Suite on my 3600 just fine.

jagged ember
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See?

versed rock
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Are you recording stuff in 4K?

ruby jungle
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Yes

jagged ember
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is still fine

versed rock
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Ok, then screw 5900X at that point

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Go Threadripper

little osprey
ruby jungle
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Let's assume you're a boutique shop and your customer wants 5900x, aio, and full tower. How would you configure the build for optimal thermals

reef linden
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@little osprey, probably look at a higher end graphics card if you try to run most games at 144Hz

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But other wise well balanced

ruby jungle
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Waiting to see how the 6800x performs for premiere

versed rock
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I wouldn't. I'd suggest the customer change their configuration.

ruby jungle
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Otherwise waiting for 3080 stock to replenish

little osprey
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It runs fine on most games

versed rock
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Because it is a poorly thought out configuration.

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A. You don't need a Liquid Cooler for ANY of the Consumer Ryzen Chips.

little osprey
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@reef linden what gpu

versed rock
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B. a Full Tower case is absolutely massive and un-needed in 2020

ruby jungle
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Aesthetics

versed rock
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C. You can still have a nice looking PC with a tower cooler.

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D. We haven't even talked how much money you are putting into this rig.

little osprey
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lets sing the alphabet with skiptrace !

ruby jungle
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$3k

little osprey
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cad or usd

ruby jungle
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Usd

versed rock
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Jesus, 3K and you aren't going Threadripper?

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🤦

jagged ember
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Pfft

reef linden
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umm, depends on your price range, but something close to a 2070 or better, I got a rx 5700 xt for mine, works well @little osprey

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you could drop a little lower too\

little osprey
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My budget is 2.1k cad

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Can u build a list

reef linden
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but for higher qual games it would be better

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I cannot now, in school, but maybe later if you hit me up

foggy hazel
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It would be nice if the people helping others could dial down on the sarcasm

reef linden
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lol

little osprey
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Ok

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Also

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I’m just doing esports

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And I’m thinking of getting a laptop cause I don’t have the best internet so I would have to download at my friends op the laptop is legion 5 1660 ti and r7 4800H

jagged ember
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Probably don't get a laptop

reef linden
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Oh, I am not a geek when it comes to laptops, lol

jagged ember
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Unless you need the portability of one

balmy patio
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i mean laptops arent that bad when you're using it for slight gaming and portability

foggy hazel
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your list looks fine @little osprey. Because its a 2100 CAD with everything included list

versed rock
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There you go

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That will eat through Premiere Pro like Pac-Man

foggy hazel
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eh?

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where is the scratch disk?

versed rock
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

little osprey
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I will probably need the portability but I’m going to wait until I’m ready to buy to see if I have better internet then

foggy hazel
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where is the storage array?

versed rock
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I expected him to already have some form of storage.

foggy hazel
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etc etc

versed rock
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I just put the 1TB SSD in there for boot

foggy hazel
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its on you to ask :)

little osprey
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Maybe 3080

versed rock
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He says he's doing 4K Video, so I assume he already has some infrastructure for that.

jagged ember
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Mm

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Good luck on getting a 3080

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They're really hard to come by

foggy hazel
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@versed rock for your own sanity, please dont assume anything about users :)

reef linden
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Ok, @little osprey, gl and hopefully you make a good choice when the time comes, if you have good internet, desktop is the way to go, but your choice to make

versed rock
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I do it on a daily basis at my AutoZone part-time job, it's worked out pretty fine so far.

reef linden
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Its substancially cheaper for better performance

little osprey
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Ye my internet is 100gb 5mbps

reef linden
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oof

versed rock
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Wait.

jagged ember
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Uh oh

versed rock
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100Gb data cap?

jagged ember
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It's limited?

little osprey
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Yes

versed rock
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Jesus christ, where do you live?!?

jagged ember
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Oh no

little osprey
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After 100 it’s 4 dollars a gn

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Gb

jagged ember
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That's not ideal

little osprey
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I live in Ontario

jagged ember
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What provider?

versed rock
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Wtf? I thought capped internet was illegal in Canada

little osprey
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Bell

jagged ember
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Wait, really?

little osprey
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Yes

jagged ember
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Bell has pretty decent uncapped plans tho

foggy hazel
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re: internet cap: none of that is anything we have to deal with.

little osprey
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My friends that are 20 mins they have unlimited 50mbps

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I can’t get it in my area

wintry gust
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Heya Nard ^^

versed rock
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🤔

wintry gust
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err

jagged ember
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Oh no

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That's actually super unfortunate

little osprey
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Ik

wintry gust
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Naed dangit

jagged ember
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No fiber or coaxial in your area?

little osprey
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Nope

jagged ember
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Well actually probably the latter

little osprey
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It’s a hub

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And doesn’t have a phone line

versed rock
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Wat

little osprey
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That’s why I’m waiting

deep skiff
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capped internet isnt terrible if you turn down yt quality but ours was 250gb and still sucked

foggy hazel
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hello @wintry gust

versed rock
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Jeez, the lowest cap in my area is 1TB

jagged ember
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Yeah, I'd probably see if I could get better internet first

versed rock
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And we just went Unlimited.

wintry gust
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Naed did you get my messages?

foggy hazel
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aye, just got in 15 minutes ago :) so was just catching up to things:)

gaunt vortex
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Yeah, I eat around 900gb a month on average, bumped into my cap a few times before they let you pay to remove it.

wintry gust
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ahh kewl ok ok 🙂

little osprey
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I eat around 40

gaunt vortex
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and that 900 was before 4k streaming was a thing

little osprey
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Oh and there is three people in my house

reef linden
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yiikes

foggy hazel
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@wintry gust just to verify, you have started ordering parts?

wintry gust
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well Yes and no.. I did but my card glitched out and my bank has to reset it so the order is there just the payment got declined and I can't finish the order for 24 hours from right now

foggy hazel
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and that is on the 3800x?

wintry gust
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3900x

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3800 not available atm, and its base price is 450 with the sale of the 3900... for 420.. I'm not going to say no

foggy hazel
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ok

versed rock
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What are you using a 3900X for?

wintry gust
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streaming, vr streaming, 3d animation, 3d modeling, etc etc

foggy hazel
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and yes :) at those prices it makes sense :)

wintry gust
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and hardcore gaming 🙂

versed rock
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Eh, your GPU Encoder should be able to do most of the Streaming work

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Especially if it's a 30 series card.

wintry gust
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I still have lag issues

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its mostly due to my processor bottlenecking my gpu

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and my ram is not the best

foggy hazel
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aye, in the current build.

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do you have a build list available @wintry gust ?

wintry gust
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I bought everything you suggested except processor and motherboard

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though I did buy 2 ssds 1 for gaming and 1 for my 3d programs

foggy hazel
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which ssd's did you end up with?

wintry gust
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umm let me see the one you suggested

foggy hazel
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mp34

arctic jungle
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mp34 is only pci-e 3.0 ssd

wintry gust
#

ya

vague maple
#

wdym only?

versed rock
#

And there's not really a major difference unless you are working with gigantic single files.

vague maple
#

pcie gen 3 is still more than enough for 98% for the pc building community lmao

little osprey
#

What laptops would u guys recommend

still bay
#

is this any good

wintry gust
#

I really don't need a god ssd this is plenty good

vague maple
#

none, get a pc

still bay
#

but replace with like a 3080 or 6800xt

foggy hazel
#

@arctic jungle this is ALSO something we have been over before.

vague maple
#

oh nnvm

#

you're replacing it with a 3080

arctic jungle
#

fine not ONLY -_-

still bay
#

or a 6000xt idk

little osprey
#

What laptops would u guys recommend

still bay
#

depends on what the benchmarks say

arctic jungle
#

but it's the best value for a 1 tb ssd

vague maple
#

you dont need a white psu

still bay
#

oh i know

vague maple
#

the case comes with a psu shroud, which hide the psu

arctic jungle
#

only one WORTH getting in MY opinion

#

for 1 tb nvme

vague maple
#

and i would say get a 1 tb nvme drive

still bay
#

no u can see it from the top through the holes trust

vague maple
#

i see

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust for the editing you do need something at least decent. Which the mp34 fits.

still bay
#

cmon man aesthetic

little osprey
#

What laptops would u guys recommend

vague maple
#

yes i know man

still bay
#

prob gonna get a 1 or 2 tb nvme ssd instead

vague maple
#

and the 240mm aio is overpriced imo

wintry gust
#

for the price I am not going to complain lol

vague maple
#

if you want a good looking white aio

still bay
#

ik it is but it looks sick

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust aye, it will be fine :)

still bay
#

dont recommend the arctic

vague maple
#

there are 360 mm options for the same price

#

that also looks good

versed rock
#

I don't recommend any AIO

little osprey
#

What laptops would u guys recommend

still bay
#

oh ik but i want to put the aio at the top

vague maple
#

arctic has amazing performance, but i get that you're looking at looks only

still bay
#

tbh i prob wouldnt get an aio its just there bc

vague maple
#

oh the case doesn't let you do that?

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust however, i would like to have a chat with you about waiting another day at least. (on purchasing the CPU)

still bay
#

wjat

little osprey
#

What laptops would u guys recommend

wintry gust
#

well I have to wait 24 hours anyway

still bay
#

no one has complemented the ram yet thats okay

vague maple
#

oof 120 dollars for that case?

versed rock
#

Jesus, can you stop spamming?

vague maple
#

the ram is fine

still bay
#

The case is sick bro

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust a day beyond that

still bay
#

the ram is more than fine.

wintry gust
#

Oh what for?

still bay
#

the ram is God-like

vague maple
#

its risky to play around with 2 kits but if you spend some time in bios fixing it, its fine

#

the ram is in my pc parts list LMAO

versed rock
#

The RAM is overkill as fork

vague maple
#

it's so good

still bay
#

xD

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust zen3 reviews.

versed rock
#

Especially with 32GB

#

Why the heck do you need 32GB of RAM?

vague maple
#

32 gb isn't overkill

#

cl16 isn't overkill

versed rock
#

Yes it is.

vague maple
#

and 3600mhz isn't overkill

wintry gust
#

ohhh new processors

versed rock
#

32GB of RAM is stupid overkill for 90% of people

foggy hazel
#

aye @wintry gust

vague maple
#

not really

versed rock
#

Yes, really.

wintry gust
#

hrmmm alrightie

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock 32gig is perfectly normal IF you want that.

little osprey
#

256 gn of ram isn’t

still bay
#

i have 16 rn itsn ot enough

vague maple
#

thank you naed

still bay
#

juts trust i dont close my google tabs

versed rock
#

How is 16GB not enough?

vague maple
#

see, let the buyer choose what he wants

still bay
#

i have like 3 different instances of google open all with 20 tabs

versed rock
#

Do you just leave tasks open?

balmy patio
#

bruh himeko does need the 32gb of ram, she is doing 3d modeling and stuff

still bay
#

yes i just said i do

versed rock
#

Well there's your problem

#

You use Chrome

still bay
#

no ik its bad, i just dont care

vague maple
#

you dont?

versed rock
#

Use Firefox

vague maple
#

LMAO

wintry gust
#

ya I wanted 64 gigs but lol

foggy hazel
#

do you "need" it? maybe not. but IF you want it. that is a choice that you make.

versed rock
#

Firefox > all other browsers

vague maple
#

ok skip

#

anyways ye

#

lets resume our convo

trail shuttle
wintry gust
#

I can buy 32 now, and 32 later no biggie

trail shuttle
#

rate my build

#

from 0 to 0

versed rock
#

I have 7 instances of Firefox open, and it is using less than 1GB of RAM

vague maple
#

there are some sick looking cases that are white for that price @still bay

#

the masterbox mesh

#

the lancool 2

versed rock
#

The P400A Digital

vague maple
#

the lian li o11 dynamic but you'll have to pay a lot to get enough fans to fill it

#

yeah the 400a digital looks sick

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock your use case is NOT everyone elses use case

still bay
#

my firend has the lancool 2

#

dont like it

vague maple
#

the black one

#

or the white one

still bay
#

white

vague maple
#

ok

still bay
#

just be happy i dont have the o-11 in there lmao

versed rock
#

Naed, what I mean is, you can swap to Firefox and fix literally all your RAM issues.

still bay
#

i very much so like this case

vague maple
#

what about the coolermaster masterbox td500?

wintry gust
#

Naed I am also looking for a cute case that will look good with pink lighting.. the case I was going to get will be gone I believe in 24 hours so 😦

vague maple
#

looks absolutely sickkk

still bay
#

let me look

vague maple
#

ok

versed rock
#

If you are eating all of your 16GB, using 20 instances of Chrome, then use Firefox and you'll use less RAM.

still bay
#

i dont like the side panel look

#

If you are eating all of your 16GB, using 20 instances of Chrome, then use Firefox and you'll use less RAM.
@versed rock ok

#

and i dont like the front panel look

#

no i dont like the case at all

#

thank u nezxt

#

next

versed rock
#

P400A Digital

foggy hazel
#

grab the case and everything else @wintry gust, that is fine. Its the CPU that is the part in flux

still bay
#

p5000 or p4000

#

i mean 500 / 400

versed rock
#

P400A Digital.

little osprey
#

p400a

versed rock
#

Period

vague maple
#

ok, if you dont like the td500 mesh

still bay
#

its okayyyy inside isnt white tho

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock firefox craps its pants at the tab numbers i normally throw around

still bay
versed rock
#

I've never had Firefox die past 40 tabs.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

vague maple
#

take a look at the 275 airflow and the 4000d

#

airflow

balmy patio
#

If you are eating all of your 16GB, using 20 instances of Chrome, then use Firefox and you'll use less RAM.
@versed rock bruh i have like 16 tabs on two seperate windows, while playing music on spotify, while on a call with friends, while playing minecraft and there's not that much ram issues with my 8gbs of ddr3 at 1600mhz

foggy hazel
#

@still bay no need for that language

still bay
#

i dont like the 4000d

vague maple
#

ok

still bay
#

and i dont like the 275 airflow tbh

#

@still bay no need for that language
@foggy hazel sir yes sir

versed rock
#

There's a reason why the P400A Digital isn't white inside.

vague maple
#

ok what about the fractal design meshify c?

versed rock
#

It's called White reflects a buttload of light

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock 40 tabs is roughly a single window for me

still bay
#

dont like that

little osprey
#

thats a decent case

vague maple
#

ok

#

then go with your choice i guess

versed rock
#

It's to subdue any RGB so it doesn't blind you.

little osprey
#

the meshify c is what i have

versed rock
#

Oh wait...

still bay
#

the 4000x is so just sick imo

still roostBOT
#
Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

foggy hazel
#

@still bay so please edit that message of yours from earlier.

still bay
#

but idk my friend just got one for his build ig ill see

versed rock
#

Fork...

still bay
#

@still bay so please eidt that message of yours from earlier.
@foggy hazel r u an admin/staff member

vague maple
#

why not grab a o11 dynamic and stuff it with as many ll20 fans as you can

versed rock
#

Ye, you are mental. The 4000X is a terrible case.

vague maple
#

@foggy hazel r u an admin/staff member
@still bay buddy, be glad he isnt a mod

still bay
#

it looks sick wtf

vague maple
#

if he was one, you would be banned rn

versed rock
#

You are going to choke your parts of air.

vague maple
#

please follow what he's saying

still bay
#

for saying id let a case buttf** me

vague maple
#

and delete the swear word

foggy hazel
#

Nah, i am just someone that helps people.

still bay
#

swear word is gone

vague maple
#

and hates general 😉

versed rock
#

I honestly don't get the no-swearing policy

vague maple
#

jk

little osprey
#

Naed

still bay
#

kinda stupid but w/e

little osprey
#

how to techie role pls tell secret

#

I honestly don't get the no-swearing policy
@versed rock its so everyone can enjoy

#

me want ;-;

still bay
#

why dont u just get a bot that deletes bad words

vague maple
#

@versed rock kids are on here i guess

foggy hazel
#

thank you @still bay

vague maple
#

why dont u just get a bot that deletes bad words
@still bay we do have one

#

idk how your sentence slipped past

versed rock
#

Kids that are 13 or older.

little osprey
#

@versed rock kids are on here i guess
@vague maple kids shouldn't be on here at all

wintry gust
still bay
#

the parts can suck my *** for all i care the 4000x is sick

little osprey
#

discord tos is 13>

versed rock
#

Ye, the 4000X is objectively a bad case.

foggy hazel
#

its simpler to have that rule in place. it cuts out a lot of bs

still bay
#

the intake looks fine imho

versed rock
#

It isn't.

#

That huge glass panel? RIP airflow

still bay
#

objectively, im not putting like dual 3090 with a 69000xt quad threadripper

vague maple
#

the parts can suck my *** for all i care the 4000x is sick
@still bay you say that, but when your 3080 overheats and dies while you're playing doom, you wont be asking for it to suck your ****

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey help people. and dont ask for the role.

versed rock
#

Doesn't mean your parts don't need air.

little osprey
#

@little osprey help people. and dont ask for the role.
@foggy hazel yikers

vague maple
#

^

still bay
#

my parts can suck it up

versed rock
#

And then overheat and die.

little osprey
#

literally

#

e.e

vague maple
#

skip let him go

#

its fine

still bay
#

theyre fine trust me

versed rock
#

No.

#

I refuse to.

vague maple
#

when his parts die, it'll be his fault

still bay
#

okay

little osprey
#

stop being incompetent

vague maple
#

you've warned him

still bay
#

get me a case that is all white, even white inside

#

and ill consider

little osprey
#

guys leave him

versed rock
#

P400A Digital

#

Done.

little osprey
#

its his problem now

vague maple
#

i gave you so many recommendations smh

little osprey
#

u warned him

still bay
#

smartman stfu ur not cool

versed rock
#

All-white is going to blind you.

little osprey
#

and helped him

versed rock
#

Trust me.

little osprey
#

its up to him

still bay
#

not white inside

versed rock
#

Why does that matter?

wintry gust
#

is sooo confused atm

versed rock
#

Contrast > No Contrast

still bay
arctic jungle
#

All-white is going to blind you.
@versed rock that's false

versed rock
#

Still bad

arctic jungle
#

all white looks good

still bay
#

Still bad
@versed rock homie how

versed rock
#

That bar in the middle

arctic jungle
#

it's just hard to find some parts for an all white build

little osprey
#

dude ?

still roostBOT
#
ye#9188 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

arctic jungle
#

eg, gpu, psu

still bay
#

mm

foggy hazel
#

@still bay breathe.

little osprey
#

PB500DX is great for airflow wat

still bay
#

im breathing homie

versed rock
#

500DX is still marginally better.

vague maple
#

meshify c, lancool 2, lancool 2 mesh, o11 dynamic, 4000d airflow, 275 airflow, td500 mesh, p300, pure base 500dx

versed rock
#

Done

vague maple
#

those are all the better white cases

#

that have all white interior

versed rock
#

4000D Looks better than the 4000X anyway

still bay
#

ill settle

versed rock
#

It's got that cool pattern on it.

vague maple
#

that pattern also helps with airflow

#

a LOT

wintry gust
#

thats nice but its not cute lol

vague maple
#

mesh front panel looks sick

still bay
#

mmm but then i'd spend another 120 on fans

vague maple
#

@still bay if you want some eye candy case so bad, just get a o11 dynamic

still bay
#

i dont like 011

vague maple
#

wow

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock think about this: IF someone wants to put their machine in a sealed box, you cannot prevent it. So instead of just declaring that something is better. Try and explain WHY.

And no, i do not mean you should DECLARE why. but actually explain it to the person who is going to use a sealed box.

vague maple
#

ok naed

still bay
little osprey
#

the o11 is pretty decent in terms of airflow but it costs a lot and comes with no fans

versed rock
balmy patio
#

@wintry gust would you be willing to hydro dip the panels on the case or spray paint them?

vague maple
#

the o11 is pretty decent in terms of airflow but it costs a lot and comes with no fans
@little osprey yeah its a eye candy case

gaunt vortex
#

O_O

wintry gust
#

OMG I want it lol

versed rock
#

It's 320 USD, import from China.

wintry gust
#

that is amazing

versed rock
#

It's mATX btw

#

And, thermals kinda suck

wintry gust
#

I won't be getting that for 320 dollars f that

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust price is NOT amazing

wintry gust
#

No.. it is not lol

vague maple
#

he didnt mean price was amazing lol naed

versed rock
#

Pink cases are hard to come by.

vague maple
#

he meant that the case looked amazing

still bay
wintry gust
#

<-- girl for the 100th time lol

versed rock
#

Why do you need LL120's?

still bay
#

dont even try to argue about the ll120s

#

ive done tihs before

foggy hazel
#

what you could think about , long term. is getting a series of decals @wintry gust

versed rock
#

They are terrible fans

still bay
#

i understand but dont care on the matter

vague maple
versed rock
#

Why do you not care?

still bay
#

because.

versed rock
#

Do you want to spend more money on a worse product?

still bay
#

yes.

versed rock
#

Because that's literally insane

still bay
#

it is

versed rock
#

Then WHY are you doing it?!?

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock also, keep in mind. its your choice if you want to help someone.

still bay
#

well show me a fan that is similarly priced, better performance and looks as cool or cooler

balmy patio
#

wait @wintry gust what mobo form-factor are you building with?

foggy hazel
#

we dont force anyone to help people here :)

vague maple
#

They are terrible fans
@versed rock they are terrible price to performance wise, but looks wise and thermals wise, they preform better. Yes there are better options for better thermals, but this fan preforms just as well and hes clearly paying a premium to get looks

versed rock
#

Done

#

55 dollars

wintry gust
#

ummm prolly an MSI of some sort...... gaming plus or.. something a long those lines

foggy hazel
#

ATX

still bay
#

not white

balmy patio
#

ok

versed rock
#

Oh my lord.

vague maple
#

lmao

foggy hazel
#

ATX is the answer @wintry gust

versed rock
#

It's a FAN FRAME

vague maple
#

let him get ll20s

still bay
#

lmao

vague maple
#

they preform fine skip

versed rock
#

You are LITERALLY NEVER GOING TO LOOK AT IT.

still bay
#

ql120

#

hehe

wintry gust
#

gotcha 🙂

still bay
#

i dont like the black

#

wait

wintry gust
#

some of these cases look kinda bland and don't want the grey in it.. white and black will be fine cause all my lighting will be pink.

vague maple
#

@versed rock dont those fans come with like 5 rgb connectors per fan?

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock you are aware that you are giving free entertainment to someone else right now right?

wintry gust
#

its a shame ripsaw ram does not have rgb coloring 😦

versed rock
#

Can you like not ping me?

vague maple
#

hes giving free entertainment to me rn

#

lol

foggy hazel
#

can you calm down and relax then?

vague maple
#

its a shame ripsaw ram does not have rgb coloring 😦
@wintry gust you can go for trident z/neo

#

or royale

balmy patio
#

himeko do you care about the color of the case or the shape of the case?

versed rock
#

I am relaxed.

vague maple
#

if you want g.skill

still bay
#

there

versed rock
#

Wait...

still bay
#

im waiting

vague maple
#

why 4 fans?

versed rock
#

So you are getting a Black Motherboard... and a Black AIO... BUT WONT GET BLACK FANS?!?!?!?!?

#

REEEE

vague maple
#

lmao

still bay
#

hehe

vague maple
#

thats what i was thinking as well

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust yes, very calm design is your goal?

weak field
#

thats terrible

#

why there a 1660 super in a 1500$ system

vague maple
#

its a placeholder

versed rock
#

I think you just made me lose like 20 braincells Ye.

vague maple
#

for the 3080

weak field
#

oh

gaunt vortex
#

I always buy fractal design fans. Had them in my cases for years, they're always dead quiet and thermals have never been an issue, and they have black/white options. their Prisma ARBG fans are also white-ish

vague maple
#

i see

wintry gust
#

yes naed 🙂 I want it to scream girlie cause that is kinda my personality.. and my computers are my babies lol basically

still bay
#

there

versed rock
#

And why the fork are you buying a White PSU when you will literally never see the PSU

still bay
#

now can u guys stop queefing about the fans

gaunt vortex
#

Depends on the case if you see a PSU or not...

versed rock
#

It's a 4000D

#

Also

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust fair :) Fractal Design, Silverstone are the 2 brands that come to mind for case design for that

still bay
#

u can see the psu in this case

versed rock
#

You don't need 6 extra fans!

#

No you can't.

still bay
#

yes u can

vague maple
still bay
#

theres holes in the shroud

wintry gust
#

as long as the price is good I'm all for it

balmy patio
still bay
#

why did u get 12 fans in a 9 fan case @vague maple

wintry gust
#

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! insert cute girlie noises here

still bay
#

and a 1080p monitor for a 3080

hearty vine
#

Right

vague maple
#

rad can support 6 fans in a push/pull config

foggy hazel
#

the montech are fairly horrible to build in @balmy patio :)

versed rock
#

And, no you can't Ye.

#

Can't see PSU

still bay
#

yes u can

wintry gust
#

that is epically cute, and super cheap

still bay
#

look on the top of thr shrooud

versed rock
#

🤦

gaunt vortex
#

that is super cheap for a case. 57?

hearty vine
#

Yes

vague maple
#

the second monitor is a 1440p 165 hertz monitor for my immersive games, the 1080p monitor is for competitive gaming

hearty vine
#

6 fan case

versed rock
#

You basically can't see the PSU.

still bay
#

wow im sorry but that rad looks stupid

foggy hazel
#

@versed rock you are using words that will bite you right now

vague maple
#

my rad?

versed rock
#

You are never going to explicitly LOOK at the PSU

gaunt vortex
#

needs a short PSU though.

versed rock
#

If you had one of those side-shroud thingies, sure.

#

Fine

#

Go ahead and use a White PSU for the asthetic.

balmy patio
#

@wintry gust would you be comfortable painting the case and using rgb software to give it a nice color?

vague maple
#

the galahad aio looks pretty nice for me, but i cant find a very good white aio 360m alternative without modding

versed rock
#

But, with the shroud design on the 4000D, you effectively can't see the PSU.

still bay
#

its between p500a and the 4000d

gaunt vortex
#

Just let people spend extra money on dumb **** if it's what they want.

wintry gust
#

I would use the rgb but not paint it.. that case is cute enough and it will look good with all my pink rgbs

vague maple
#

you can cover the holes with white paper/tape from the bottom if you really don't want to see the psu

versed rock
#

P400A is, also a contender if you just forgo the all white, and go for some actual contrast in the build.

vague maple
#

skip

versed rock
#

Because contrast is more eye catching

vague maple
#

can you help me pick out a 360m rad that has all white and rgb fans?

versed rock
#

Uhhhhhhhh.... I'm not on the up and up on AIOs because they are bad.

vague maple
#

unfortunately i'm an look who**

#

oh you're an air cooling fan

#

i get ya

gaunt vortex
#

sigh

still bay
versed rock
#

I'm an objectively best thing for the PC fan

still bay
#

there

winged tinsel
#

Do I plug my monitors into my gpu??

versed rock
#

Liquid Cooling objectively just wastes money.

vague maple
#

not objectively

balmy patio
#

I would use the rgb but not paint it.. that case is cute enough and it will look good with all my pink rgbs
@wintry gust fair enough

gaunt vortex
#

The absolute hatred for AIOs on here is kind of hilarious

vague maple
#

stop throwing that word around mate

foggy hazel
still bay
winged tinsel
#

Do I plug my monitors into my gpu??

versed rock
#

Yes...

vague maple
#

aios are bought mostly for their looks, that's why

versed rock
#

Ok, now this build is just bonkers stupid.

gaunt vortex
#

not everything is about the most utilitarian "cheapest possible" build.

still bay
#

what

versed rock
#

You don't need a 5950X in a Gaming rig.

#

a 5600X is plenty.

still bay
#

uh huh

vague maple
#

plus only very high preforming air coolers, like the dark rock pro 4 and the noctua cooler can beat a good aio

#

oh i forgot to remove the 5950X

#

didn't mean to have that there lmao

#

i'm actually going to use the 5800X

still bay
#

how much is 5600x

versed rock
#

300

foggy hazel
#

"need" vs "want". Its the buyers choice which they are employing.

still bay
#

there

vague maple
#

or 5900X, its 4 cores more for 100 dollars more

still bay
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fixed

vague maple
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"need" vs "want". Its the buyers choice which they are employing.
@foggy hazel you are so smart

gaunt vortex
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I should link my build so Skip has an aneurysm

vague maple
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PLEASE DO

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lmao ye is going out of their way to make their build stupid af

still bay
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what

vague maple
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when will you EVER need a 10 terabyte hard drive

versed rock
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vague maple
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or a 970 evo plus for 300

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versed rock
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Oof

vague maple
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LMAO

hearty vine
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Oops

versed rock
vague maple
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skip i could harp on you buying "objectively" overpriced peripherals (razer) but i wont

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bro that aio is so out of place there

versed rock
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Ok, the Huntsman TE is overpriced, yes.

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But their Mice are top notch.

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It is.

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It was my old rig

foggy hazel
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in your opinion.

vague maple
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yeah i know, im a razer hog myself lmao

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i'm using a deathadder elite rn

foggy hazel
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which is a VERY important distinction to make

versed rock
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No, pretty much objectively Razer's mice are good

vague maple
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no

foggy hazel
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no, not by a long shot

vague maple
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there's no OBJECTIVE statement about it skip

versed rock
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They have good sensors, good shapes, and great feet

gaunt vortex
vague maple
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good shapes FOR YOU

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grreat feet FOR YOU

gaunt vortex
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Now tell me I am dumb and make bad choices

vague maple
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other people have a different feel when it comes to mouse

versed rock
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There's like 10 different shapes Razer makes.

vague maple
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understand that

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so what?

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a person can dislike every single shape

versed rock
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And the Feet are universally great

vague maple
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hell i disliked every single shape

versed rock
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Well, then they aren't going to get a mouse at that point.

vague maple
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i settled on the deathadder elite because it was big enough for my hands

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peripherals are highly preferential, why dont you get that

versed rock
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Ok, I think my brain is going to melt just from the sheer storage in this rig.

hearty vine
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What will you use 16 terabytes on

vague maple
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like my friend hates the deathadder elite, and loves the g502 while im the complete opposite

gaunt vortex
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video editing, rendering, etc

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It sucks up an absurd amount of space

versed rock
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The Deathadder Elite and the G502 are basically the same mouse!

hearty vine
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Ok makes sense i guess

vague maple
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The Deathadder Elite and the G502 are basically the same mouse!
@versed rock no?

versed rock
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Do you really need 2 1TB Scratch Disks?

gaunt vortex
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I also do some gamedev as a hobby, and raw assets eat up space like crazy

vague maple
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i see

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so

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why didnt you get 40 sabrent rocket q's in raid 0?

versed rock
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You also went way stupid overkill on the PSU

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850w is already overkill

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1200w is so overkill it isn't even funny

gaunt vortex
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It was the same price as an 850 at the time

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No reason not to future proof it shrug

versed rock
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Do you actually use W10 Pro features?

gaunt vortex
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and again, yes

foggy hazel
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@vague maple re: q's in r0: diminishing returns

vague maple
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pretty sure win10 home cant handle 128 gigs of ram

versed rock
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It can

gaunt vortex
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it does now* I think

versed rock
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Does anything you use take Thunderbolt 3?

vague maple
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@vague maple re: q's in r0: diminishing returns
@foggy hazel yes it was a joke naed, you really thought i was wondering why she didnt have 40 sabrent rocket q ssds

versed rock
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Oh right... storage...

little osprey
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You can buy a win 10 pro key for 10 bucks

versed rock
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I forgot

foggy hazel
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i dont get why you have such a hard problem with just letting people actually have their builds @versed rock

versed rock
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X570 has more PCIe 4 lanes than B550

vague maple
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lmao yeah naed is right

foggy hazel
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@vague maple seen weirder questions :)

versed rock
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Because wasting money is bad.

vague maple
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wow

foggy hazel
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"want" VS "need" again

gaunt vortex
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neither do I, that's why I linked this because I knew it would be weirdly offensive to people lol

foggy hazel
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their money, their choice.

versed rock
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You can have a build that is effectively the same as one that is more expensive, and then save that money for later in life.

gaunt vortex
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I'm happy with it, so, idk what the problem is exactly shrug

vague maple
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has it occurred to you skip, that maybe, just maybe, not EVERYONE in the whole wide world has the exact SAME needs as you?

gaunt vortex
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Also, I make enough money to not care?

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So there's that?

vague maple
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wtf