But considering this is the last gen before DDR5 (supposedly) the platform would be abandoned wouldn't it?
#building-and-recc-chat
lyric thistle
stoic island
why do you ask >:D
stoic island
@lyric thistle I was talking about guaranteed 5th gen support on a520
lyric thistle
Ah ok
stoic island
since b450 will be spotty with support
@fallen harbor how's this looking
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/H2rVcT
little osprey
psu from older system ?
fallen harbor
what should i spend the remaining 400 on?
little osprey
1tb fills up really quick, i rec a 2tb compute
fallen harbor
true i do alot of coding i might get a 2 tb and a 1
fallen harbor
i do but i want to be on the safe side
stoic island
(there's another 500cad in your budget for whatever lel)
stoic island
model o maybe
fallen harbor
any monitor rec?
stoic island
want 1080p or 1440p
fallen harbor
prob 1080 cause 1440p is prob a bit much
little osprey
u will barely notice a diff in 1080p to 1440p anyways
little osprey
normie
fallen harbor
Ok
chilly jolt
would a 650w work?
stoic island
why wouldn't it
fallen harbor
650 is more than enough
abstract temple
So I'm currently running a Red Devil rx 590. Screens are 1080p. Im thinking red devil 5700 would be a solid uplift, since newer games (Baldurs gate 3) are starting to tax the card. And since I'm still running 1080 the 6xxx and 3xxxx cards seem quite overkill
chilly jolt
It seems sorta low for the 3070
fallen harbor
a 500 would be a bit low tbh
i could bump it to 750 but not like im running the new marvel game at max settings
chilly jolt
yeah
abstract temple
Hoping a price drop near Christmas. 🤣🤣
fallen harbor
i guess
little osprey
used 2080ti < 500 has entered the chat 😏
fallen harbor
how is the 5700xt holdin up to the 3070
little osprey
demolished
chilly jolt
yeah i was about to ask about amd
fallen harbor
figured
stoic island
little osprey
still enough for 1080p
neon tide
that's mah boi! 😄
stoic island
meh, they might be in the AMD ecosystem already, they might want AMD for features they were already using
fallen harbor
mr is there a pink case i could swap to
fallen harbor
darn
neon tide
i love it. going from a 17" 1280x1024 to that was amazing
stoic island
I do love a td500 mesh
stoic island
you can just make it glow pink
fallen harbor
i was going to get all pink stuff so it looks cool on stream
chilly jolt
yo
winter marsh
Howdy Ho.....
neon tide
pfft
stoic island
lyric thistle
Pimk 😎
chilly jolt
that's kinda fire tho
winter marsh
@little osprey It's a fulltower so can be cooled easy
neon tide
i should get the hybrid theory funko pop to go in mine
fallen harbor
the mouse im getting for my setup
winter marsh
I've owned two of those NZXT full towers
stoic island
model o is neat
fallen harbor
GMMK "White Ice" Edition looks amazing migt get the pink model 0 with it
fallen harbor
i saw ill be adding that to the budget i got like 50$ after also adding the mouse and keyboard
new headphones or mic which should i go for
little osprey
modmic
fallen harbor
my old snow ball is broke so i could go for a new one
real cobalt
You can set an item as purchased in pc part picker
@lyric thistle
yeah I did , he just didn't notice
stoic island
get a headset >:D
lyric thistle
Ah ok
fallen harbor
a modmic is like 190 lmao
stoic island
no modmic
built in mic
see if drop ships to you
pc37x quite good
I'll paste you the z reviews review if you want
fallen harbor
putting the extra money for the ears
stoic island
it's actually good
winter marsh
@fallen harbor because of the kids I wish that headset never existed
little osprey
lol i just tried to post a newegg link on here, and i got warned by the newegg server that i tried posting a link that wasnt allowed on here lmfao but anywho, modmic is not 160 lol its $70-$100
fallen harbor
the pc37x prob will be what im getting tho
winter marsh
@fallen harbor I have four girls on gaming pc, that's $600 usd
stoic island
lol
chilly jolt
yeah
chilly jolt
I want one for my rift s
stoic island
headphones don't have mic
fallen harbor
@winter marsh whats 600 usd?
stoic island
headset does
stoic island
nice
winter marsh
154 usd locally when on sale'
little osprey
weird idk why its showing you those prices, they are listed at $70 and $100 canadian for me, but yeah i guess if you wanna budget then thats not really the goto
stoic island
@fallen harbor they talking about themselves
because gara wants 4 of the kraken headsets
fallen harbor
yeah no those headsets if i get one id be keeping it in a case behind me on stream i wouldnt even use the thing it would be like a relic from the gods
little osprey
@stoic island by any chance do you have a 600 dollar part list already made?
stoic island
one sec
fallen harbor
you could just swap the gpu on my list and it would be around tha tmuch or make the cpu a intergraded
stoic island
little osprey
ty
stoic island
@fallen harbor never iGPU at any budget above like 500$ smh
fallen harbor
true they could always got for like a 570 or a 580 for the cost
what is the 580 at now adays anyways
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLdmkX
@stoic island i reckon we can fit a 2060 in that ;-;
stoic island
hm?
I don't think so
1660 super maybe
I'm too lazy
that's a list from yesterday
fallen harbor
issnt the 2060 like 300$ usd
stoic island
Yes
fallen harbor
ik the the 1660 oc edition i got for like 490 cad
fallen harbor
it was from the local pc store and than my pc fried wheni got home so i gave the gpu to a friend
stoic island
lol
still roostBOT
Weeboo#6405 has been warned
fallen harbor
woops
west coral
Naughty 😛
west coral
I think it's a bot
fallen harbor
still it will show up as a thing in mod chat prob
west coral
begging robots for mercy never works, I've seen that movie 😛
fallen harbor
lol
stoic island
smh
little osprey
i was thinking about ryzen 5 3600
stoic island
Hm
versed laurel
Yeah
stoic island
I'd prob get a GPU upgrade first
versed laurel
Gtx is a gpu
little osprey
its a 1070 8gb
stoic island
What resolution
little osprey
why would i upgrade that
stoic island
1080p?
versed laurel
Man you need upgrade
stoic island
Yes
because you'll get more gaming performance out of a GPU upgrade than a CPU upgrade.
fallen harbor
my old pc needed a upgrade before i ruined it
versed laurel
Yeah
fallen harbor
lol
stoic island
as long as you have decent enough dual channel ram
west coral
what Mr1111 said
fallen harbor
mr you would hate to hear my old pc
little osprey
i have 8gb x2
little osprey
but on my motherboard there are only 2 slots
stoic island
Mhm
versed laurel
What is your budget
stoic island
Z390/Z370 or no
stoic island
I'm saying
versed laurel
Yeah
stoic island
You'll be fine to stay on the CPU.
versed laurel
Are you using this to game or for school or something
stoic island
then wait
little osprey
gaming
stoic island
for Zen 3
versed laurel
Ok
stoic island
5600x+b550 at least.
little osprey
yeah but i saw that gtx 1070 is only 3% slower than 1660ti
little osprey
and i recently got this gpu as a new one for 180$
the 1070
so i dont want to upgrade that
little osprey
for the 1070?
molten egret
Guys I need to build a new pc and my budget is of 1300 dollar and I want to ask should I go for intel or amd but I want an rtx seres GPU
little osprey
i had rtx 580 8gb and i didnt like it
small osprey
Than 3080
stoic island
little osprey
the drivers were terrible
stoic island
meh
@small osprey I'd wait for their reviews
rn I'm still going to suggest Nvidia
small osprey
Well yes wait
molten egret
No there is availability issue and if I import it from U.S it will be very costly
little osprey
mr u need new ram when switching to amd mobos?
stoic island
Here's the thing
small osprey
Yea
small osprey
Amd can use faster rams
stoic island
and Ryzen likes good ram :P
small osprey
Like 3600mhz cl16
little osprey
i have 3200mhz 8x2 cl16
small osprey
^^
little osprey
rn
little osprey
oh ok
stoic island
3200c16 works in budget builds
but when it fits in the budget
go 3600c16
decent perf bump
stoic island
little osprey
and then upgrade
little osprey
ok
small osprey
3200cl16 isnt bad
stoic island
@molten egret what region, what retailers, what currency, and for doing what?
small osprey
Its just u could do better
molten egret
I live in india and my currency is INR
stoic island
oh fun
molten egret
And for gaming and streaming
molten egret
Yep but if there are minor tweaks in prise I will manage
little osprey
hey mr, i would have to put good coolers on the cpu if i would want to boost the cpu right
vague maple
whats happening?
small osprey
hey mr, i would have to put good coolers on the cpu if i would want to boost the cpu right
@MzZ.#9999 yes
molten egret
@little osprey you can go for water cooler
small osprey
Why
small osprey
Water cooling
molten egret
Yes
stoic island
a bit over, take a look at this @molten egret
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/3dgJfP
small osprey
And less reliable imo
stoic island
3070 pricing is taken from regional listed 3070 MSRP
molten egret
@stoic island Yes wait a sec
vague maple
that's a great build mr111
stoic island
(here's where I got the figure for the 3070 price)
vague maple
im guessing the storage will be upgraded down the road?
stoic island
500gb ssd is my go-to thing for any list because it will last you a few months, enough time to choose to get another SSD or get a HDD with it.
little osprey
is nvmi much better than regular ssd?
stoic island
Straight up speed wise much better
little osprey
in games u wont notice much of a diff
little osprey
i have a regular kingston 480gb ssd is it good?
stoic island
which model
most important thing for a SSD is dram
speed is only secondary imo
I'd get a 500/500 SATA SSD with dram than a 3000/3000 NVMe SSD without dram
molten egret
The build is very nice but there is festival going on and my birthday this month 😁 but I don't think so the rtx 3000 series will reach india until 2021 march
vague maple
thought DRAM mattered more to SATA then NVME?
molten egret
😭
stoic island
@vague maple matters to both basically the same
vague maple
The build is very nice but there is festival going on and my birthday this month 😁 but I don't think so the rtx 3000 series will reach india until 2021 march
@molten egret most likely not that late bro
january, it'll probably be available
no i know it matters to both
but i thought it matters MORE to sata than nvme
@stoic island you can get a crucial p1 1 tb for 8500 inr
stoic island
I think it matters more for NVMe
vague maple
oh ok
vague maple
think i read somewhere it matters more for SATA
stoic island
but the larger the drive, the more it theoretically affected
@molten egret alright, try something like this then
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/KzGcTJ
molten egret
@stoic island thanks a lot but I still had a question that in Amazon the rtx 2060 mini is prise for around 24000 INR but if I take rtx mini will there be different in game performance
stoic island
RTX 2070 super is much better than RTX 2060
stoic island
The one that is in the list is a RTX 2070 super.
vague maple
just because of the performanc leap
stoic island
@vague maple I doubt they'll have stock going overseas this month lel
molten egret
@vague maple bro this is india if some one can delay ps5 launch by putting trademarks before sony anything can happen here
stoic island
so you'd have to settle with a 2070s
vague maple
bro
i live in pakistan
if you indians think you have it bad
trust us, you dont lmao
we dont have a single global retailer here ffs
stoic island
wheeee I live in the US and I say go with it
west coral
we going to get into the four yorkshiremen? 😛
vague maple
no amazon, no walmart, no ebay, no tesco, no costco, no best buy
nothing
JUST NOTHING
stoic island
iz enough ranting
molten egret
@vague maple Yes bro I know the things going on in Pakistan it is doubled the prise of India I have a friend living there
molten egret
@vague maple bro same here no pc or component buying big shop
molten egret
Yes
vague maple
we have these small ass stores that sell pc parts
but they all are super outdated or dont sell new stuff or overprice it wayyy too much
drowsy grotto
sounds rough
molten egret
Yes this is bad
vague maple
mhmm
molten egret
So I think waiting will get mee sweet 3070 power
vague maple
yeee boi
molten egret
And I want to know that the 750 wate power supply will be enough for 3070
heavy bison
This is my 2nd build
Gpu: msi gtx 1660 ti
Cpu: ryzen 5 3600
Ram: 32gb 3200
Storage: 500gb samsung ssd, 2tb seagate hdd
Psu: cx750f
Motherboard: asus b450m-a
Case: 4000x
@drowsy grotto
Why would you use 32 gb of ram and not upgrade your GPU with your saved money
little osprey
@drowsy grotto budget ?
vague maple
And I want to know that the 750 wate power supply will be enough for 3070
@molten egret yes
easily
drowsy grotto
got 16gb for free
heavy bison
also that coolermaster is bad
drowsy grotto
and already had 16
little osprey
are they different kits
versed rock
If you are thinking about upgrading your GPU right now, I would wait.
heavy bison
that costs the same
drowsy grotto
they're all 8gbs at 3200
little osprey
different model ?
heavy bison
are they same company
little osprey
u didnt answer the question
gleaming quartz
what type of ram?
vague maple
no need for 3 people to help him
heavy bison
what type of ram?
are you a troll what do you mean what type
gleaming quartz
because you cant slot 2 different pairs
little osprey
if they have different timings ur computer might not even boot
vague maple
let @little osprey help him
heavy bison
wdym by type
stoic island
@molten egret easily, a 550w will handle a 3070 fine, even a 450w if you want to stretch it
little osprey
wdym by type
@heavy bison he probably means manufacturer
heavy bison
@molten egret easily, a 550w will handle a 3070 fine, even a 450w if you want to stretch it
that's a lie
vague maple
doesnt it run like 330 watts stock
stoic island
What part of it
heavy bison
you need a higher psu wattage than specified
little osprey
no
vague maple
lmao
stoic island
And it is higher than specified
vague maple
ash that's so wrong
stoic island
their total system power draw is ~400w
heavy bison
really because I thought they were power hogs
stoic island
no
heavy bison
interesting
stoic island
220w tdp on the 3070
vague maple
what about their power spikes though mr111
stoic island
220 or 250, forgot exacts
little osprey
iirc the recommended psu wattage they read was from a high end system with a 3070
stoic island
remember
molten egret
@stoic island ok thanks
heavy bison
if I win a 3090 but I use a laptop what do I do
stoic island
power spikes are still going to be within the psu wattage
little osprey
so you cant be sure because the "recommendations" that they released was with high end part
so it will all depend on ur other components
stoic island
and also remember
versed rock
Ash, You build a Desktop
vague maple
if I win a 3090 but I use a laptop what do I do
@heavy bison buy the other components to build a pc
heavy bison
I have 1k budget
stoic island
10% overload on any decent PSUs is fine
heavy bison
what do I do then
vague maple
1k budget without a gpu?
stoic island
20% overload on a good one
vague maple
you can go to town
vague maple
what about their overvoltage protection though @stoic island
heavy bison
*3090
vague maple
or whatever it's called
heavy bison
what do I do
vague maple
ill build you a parts list
heavy bison
with a 1k budget
heavy bison
that is true
stoic island
@vague maple and that's why I said any decent GPU
heavy bison
I'm just making a scenario
vague maple
yeah but its fun building parts list smh
stoic island
and it wouldn't be OVP that trips
vague maple
ok
stoic island
it's usually OCP on higher transient response iirc
vague maple
still wouldnt stick a 3070 and a 450 watt psu in a system imo
i would constantly be stressing about overloading the psu
stoic island
yea 450w was stretching it
vague maple
and 750w is pretty much lost wattage if im not ocing or anything
gleaming quartz
ash if you do win that 3090 you can just save up for a relatively cheap build and transfer your hard drive into your new tower
versed rock
Hopefully the Big Navi cards are going to be power efficient.
stoic island
but it's theoretically doable, I definitely wouldn't suggest it though.
vague maple
yeah
versed rock
I'm hoping the 6800XT to be in the range of like, 250 to 300w
gleaming quartz
assuming your laptops hard drive is an m.2
gleaming quartz
im talking about ashes laptop
gleaming quartz
like an m.2 ssd
vague maple
hard drives
versed rock
🤦
gleaming quartz
why not?
versed rock
You can't have an M.2 Hard Drive.
vague maple
and laptop storage devices and desktop storage devices arent interchangeable
gleaming quartz
you know what i mean
vague maple
no i frankly dont
you cant just take out a m.2 ssd from your laptop and put it in your pc and expect it to work
it wont
gleaming quartz
really?
vague maple
ANY storage wouldn't work
you cant just take out a m.2 ssd from your laptop and put it in your pc and expect it to work
read this
carefully
gleaming quartz
because of motherboard interferences or whatever?
stoic island
key.
little osprey
they are keyed
gleaming quartz
oh
versed rock
Actually Rn... A M.2 from a Laptop will 100% work in a Desktop.
little osprey
mobo laptops have a diff connector than ones in desktops
stoic island
@versed rock unless it's weird
versed rock
No they don't.
stoic island
like key e ssd
little osprey
well it depends on what mobo u have
stoic island
because they exist
stoic island
or like mSATA
vague maple
there are some ssds that do work
versed rock
Ok, if it's an E.Key SSD then throw your laptop in the dumpster.
stoic island
it works most of the time
vague maple
but majority do not
stoic island
but not all the time
little osprey
i know apple has a proprietary connector for m.2 ssd
versed rock
Well, that's Apple
stoic island
@versed rock I mean there are uses for like key e 1120mm or whatever for really small spaces
vague maple
^
little osprey
apple kinda sucky
versed rock
You bought an apple, so you deserve to not only throw the laptop in the dumpster, but yourself along with it.
vague maple
or no
stoic island
if it's SATA
versed rock
You can for the most part.
gleaming quartz
i mean if you cant physically move the drive, then you can always just do a system partition copy over to an external hard drive
vague maple
not a sata drive
vague maple
a 3.5 inch rpm hard drive or whatever its called
little osprey
hard drives use sata connectors
little osprey
sata data and sata power
versed rock
🤦
little osprey
bruh.
vague maple
oouhh
versed rock
Also
stoic island
SATA is only the protocol
gleaming quartz
there are USB hard drives too
stoic island
and the cable
vague maple
oh i see
gleaming quartz
but sata hard drives tend to be better
vague maple
i'm talking about the form factor than
versed rock
USB Hard Drives are just SATA Drives in an enclosure.
versed rock
Yes...
vague maple
i see
versed rock
99.9999999% of Consumer Hard Drives are SATA Drives.
versed rock
Don't confuse this poor man with IDE and SAS drives...
stoic island
99% are SATA
vague maple
goddamn these acronyms always confuse the hell out of me
stoic island
heh
versed rock
He's already confused.
gleaming quartz
im still using an hdd for my OS drive
stoic island
@vague maple if you're dealing with anything from the last decade
99.9% chance it's SATA
vague maple
yeah i was talking about the old drives
versed rock
IDE is the most relevant old standard.
vague maple
isnt that a software?
vague maple
integrated development environment something?
versed rock
Yes, but that's for programming
stoic island
acronyms can stand for different things
vague maple
oh are you talking about an IDE drive
stoic island
just look at context
versed rock
You can also refer to them as PATA drives.
stoic island
or PITA drives >:D
gleaming quartz
an ide is one of those old drive ports, right?
vague maple
it's an interface
gleaming quartz
ah ok
pseudo sphinx
@little osprey watch a build guide or just read the manual
little osprey
what u tagging me for
pseudo sphinx
u were asking question about hard drives
just read the manual
or
a build guide
little osprey
no
still roostBOT
Mxmo#1907 has been warned
little osprey
.
pseudo sphinx
?
little osprey
i wasnt asking questions abt hard drives
pseudo sphinx
wtf
little osprey
ur gucci
pseudo sphinx
kk
pliant vapor
Haha what’s so bad about it
I saw something about how it needs to be put in a MSI board to perform well?
gleaming quartz
ripjaws ram sticks are pretty good
stoic island
crashed stuff unless it was on 2133mhz
One day I'm gonna post a video of me snapping these in half
pliant vapor
Lmao
stoic island
that's only half a joke
the ram is just
useless
the drive is dramless, slow asf now, I'd only use it for storage
might have fun breaking the ram sticks >:D
pliant vapor
I was thinking to getting it because of was 30 bucks cheaper than the vengeance lpx
And I’d get it 3 days faster
But I guess rather get the Corsair kit now
Thanks for the advice
stoic island
I'd get G.skill personally
but Corsair is fine
It's just Corsair is infuriating with their heatsink design on vengeance rgb....
stoic island
rip
gleaming quartz
can it be found on pc part picker?
little osprey
32gb ram sticks from Corsair are super expensive
Way more expensive than g skill for some reason
gleaming quartz
because corsair is a name brand for components i believe, so generally they make things more expensive
plucky needle
Corsar doesnt have the tightest CL timings which are important for Ryzen
versed rock
I'm honestly not a big fan of Corsair.
stoic island
for rad compatibility
little osprey
I’m not gonna pay extra for Corsairs rgb lol
versed rock
iCUE just kinda sucks.
plucky needle
True
little osprey
Their fans are expensive for what
versed rock
And their hardware is meh at best.
gleaming quartz
i only have a corsair tower case
plucky needle
Exactly
stoic island
there's like 3 guys so far that's gotten a td500 mesh, arctic freezer ii, then corsair vengeance rgb, and came at me telling me td500 mesh doesn't support top rad
little osprey
G skill makes great ram
stoic island
when the issue is corsair making their ram heatsink too wide
stoic island
:P
plucky needle
Corsiar cases are nice, but the other sh*t is *ss
versed rock
No
stoic island
hm?
versed rock
It's been proven by like 5 different people that Front Rad is ideal.
little osprey
You won’t even really notice the difference
versed rock
Hell, Gamer's Nexus did a piece on how Top Rad kills AIOs faster.
stoic island
But top rad is still good
little osprey
Like water cooling and air has almost no difference
stoic island
hm?
little osprey
No real world difference
stoic island
@versed rock The video told you how top rads didn't have to deal with that issue lol
because the tubes and the end are at equal level
little osprey
Sure maybe a few degrees lower but whatever
stoic island
I know front rad is better for pulling fresh air and all
versed rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk This is the video
stoic island
Yes
versed rock
Oh
stoic island
watch it again
hazy rune
@little osprey If you have transient workloads water cooling is better
little osprey
Transient?
hazy rune
It takes much longer to reach steady state temperature
stoic island
when tubes are above the pump (top mount), and parallel (because top mount), no issues
hazy rune
So if your load is changing, it’s good for that
stoic island
it's the least easy to screw up
hazy rune
Which is real world
little osprey
Eh
versed rock
Yeah, but it's difficult to get a top-mount because well...
The Motherboard is always too dang close to the top of the case.
little osprey
It’s not like you’re going to thermal throttle if you don’t get aio
I got an aio just for looks and most people do too
stoic island
hm?
@versed rock yea but I still like it
I agree front rad is optimal, but top rad still pretty dang good
and the mobo being close to top of case is why corsair wide boi ram doesn't allow you to slap in rad
little osprey
confused
gleaming quartz
im just using amd's stock cooler for my cpu😭
jagged ember
hey, fair is fair
gleaming quartz
radiators are too much for me
jagged ember
it's a good cpu for stock operation
versed rock
Well, even my P400A Digital in all it's glory can't mount a Top Rad.
jagged ember
but man, does the stealth suck at cooling
versed rock
Well, it can
gleaming quartz
mine can get kind of loud at times
versed rock
If people would make a bigger buffer at the top of their dang cases...
Yeah, all Wraith coolers can get loud.
That's why I replaced mine.
gleaming quartz
and it defaults to minimum 70% fan power in the power settings
versed rock
I have Open Backed Headphones
jagged ember
oof
gleaming quartz
true
versed rock
Closed Backs are just meh, and IEMs hurt after awhile of being jammed in your ear.
gleaming quartz
i use a g933 as a headset, its comfortable and i can use it for vr
versed rock
🤮
jagged ember
but also pc38x
versed rock
I honestly have no legitimate clue if the PC38X's are worth it over the PC37X's
jagged ember
they are, i think
versed rock
I honestly don't think so.
jagged ember
uh
their website
and dmitri's video on it
can also go look at other videos, i guess
gray stone
What motherboard do you guys think is best for the price it's asking for? I heard the B450 Tomahawk is damn good as a bang for buck mobo
jagged ember
I say go b550 in this day and age
versed rock
I wouldn't buy a B450 Tomahawk when B550 exists now.
jagged ember
yep
gray stone
Fair enough
uncut pelican
Anyone recommend a good liquid cooler? Under 150 usd
stoic island
@versed rock I've been told pc38x worth over pc37x
versed rock
Air Cooler Good
jagged ember
are you sure you need water cooling?
gleaming quartz
i have a b450m motar max
versed rock
I already have a pair of PC37X's
jagged ember
okay, then it's probably not worth the upgrade lol
uncut pelican
Best air cooler?
versed rock
It's expensive, and un-needed in like 99.99% of builds.
What CPU are you trying to cool?
uncut pelican
3700
versed rock
Stock Air cooler.
jagged ember
ayy good cpu
jagged ember
stock will do you fine if you don't do overclocking
uncut pelican
Ok thanks guys much appreciated
versed rock
Eh, I'd go Scythe Mugen 5 for a 3700X
jagged ember
Maybe it can hold up to a bit of ocing?
uncut pelican
I do not plan on doing overclocking
jagged ember
i'm not sure on that
versed rock
Gammaxx 400 is a bit... underpriced
IMO
I wouldn't use a 20 dollar cooler on a 8c16t CPU
jagged ember
but it does cool good
uncut pelican
Check this out on @Newegg: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition CPU Air Cooler, Silencio FP120 Fan, 4 CDC 2.0 Heatpipes, Anodized Gun-Metal Black, Brushed Nickel Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151 https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-hyper-212-black-edition-rr-212s-20pk-r1/p/N82E16835103278?Item=N82E16835103278&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-35-103-278-_-11032020
Ii like this air cooler if i dont go with stock
Opinions?
jagged ember
eh
jagged ember
hi antago
jagged ember
he tries to cool the 3700
arctic jungle
jagged ember
AYY
versed rock
Sorry, I don't like puking tan and brown.
jagged ember
you can't beat it's cooling and silence though
versed rock
Scythe is basically Noctua, except not tan and brown.
uncut pelican
Ok ima be that guy i dont like the look of that cooler
arctic jungle
@versed rock sorry you have to put up with bad PC parts. 
also fyi noctua has black coolers
:)
versed rock
For more money.
arctic jungle
not a crazy ton more
uncut pelican
Opinions on corsair air coolers?
uncut pelican
@uncut pelican decent
@arctic jungle which one would u recommend
versed rock
Literally the most dumpster garbage air cooler to come out in the last 10 years.
arctic jungle
Antago you are literally insane
@versed rock says you, "noctua trash"
uncut pelican
There r too many mixed opinions
jagged ember
lmao
arctic jungle
@arctic jungle which one would u recommend
@uncut pelican I'm not sure which ones are in stock rn, bc they cut down on production
jagged ember
i say just stick with the stock cooler
arctic jungle
yea honestly?
versed rock
Just buy the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B and remove the scythe sticker on the fan
arctic jungle
the stock cooler is rlly good
jagged ember
if you feel like your cpu temps are high then consider an aftermarket one
lofty mica
versed rock
It's not like you are going to look at it all the time.
arctic jungle
@versed rock stop giving bad advice
thorn frigate
Let me rewatch a video real quick, I'll give you an honest answer
versed rock
I'm not.
jagged ember
lol i gave my pitch
versed rock
Noctua is only "bad" because they up-charge people for a reasonably colored product.
arctic jungle
It's not like you are going to look at it all the time.
@versed rock then what's wrong with noctua
jagged ember
stock
versed rock
Because Noctua is overpriced.
stoic island
Noctua is great, overpriced I agree.
versed rock
The Scythe Mugen 5 is literally an NH-U12S with a cheaper pricetag, and a different fan
versed rock
It even comes with a longboi screwdriver for installation
stoic island
it's worth 40$
versed rock
Does Noctua provide you with a screwdriver?
stoic island
everything else is just overpriced
yea
longboi on all of the tower heatsinks afaik
arctic jungle
@uncut pelican sry abt his bad advice... if you really care about performance, you should get a noctua cooler. true, it may not me black if you want to pay a 3 or 4 less dollars, but they're good. leading brand in air cooling
versed rock
Really? Huh, I thought they didn't.
arctic jungle
by his I mean @versed rock
stoic island
well I got one with d15
versed rock
Antago, you are telling this guy to pay more money for LITERALLY THE SAME COOLER.
stoic island
@versed rock imo, anything that's not a nh-u12s is worth it
arctic jungle
noctua makes nice coolers, and they look p good in any system
arctic jungle
^^
stoic island
good warranty
high flame
Thoughts on this build? Was going for a super cheap but powerful machine (based around the RX 480 that I had)
CPU: Ryzen 3 3100
MOBO: Gigabyte B450M DS3H
RAM: 16GB Crucial 2400
PSU: EVGA 100-BR-0500-K1 500
GPU: RX 480 (Extra Laying Around)
SSD: Sandisk 512GB (Extra Laying Around)
SSD: Intel P3608 800GB PCI SSD (Extra Laying Around)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H17
stoic island
great fan durrability
arctic jungle
even without it
stoic island
etc etc
versed rock
arctic jungle
why is that 2400 on ram?
stoic island
I'm not saying muge 5 rev b is bad
versed rock
Look at that.
little osprey
@high flame budget, use, and country pls
jagged ember
oh, 2400 but that's still terrible
stoic island
U12s is just horribly priced
jagged ember
case is fine, which is nice
stoic island
imo mugen 5 is actually in an awkard pricepoint
versed rock
stoic island
@versed rock and 1c is the difference between D15 and aios in GN testing :)
anyways
jagged ember
you can trust tech jesus on that
versed rock
Within .75 of a degree from the D15!
thorn frigate
This chat is going fast. But for the guy looking for an air cooler, check the deepcool assassin 3 if you don't want noctua
versed rock
Look at the charts!
stoic island
I'd get Fuma 2
jagged ember
stick with stock?
versed rock
Screw Noctua at this point, they are overpriced AF
stoic island
because Fuma 2 beats d15 depending on the testing afaik
jagged ember
you won't even be overclocking
high flame
@little osprey Use - Gaming/Word/Youtube, Country - USA, Budget - Don't really have one, maybe sub $500 but trying to get the most out of the RX480
hazy rune
Again steady state temperature here
stoic island
and Ninja 5 only falls slightly behind, mostly due to lower rpm fans
jagged ember
there's basically no point in getting an aftermarket one if you're running stock speeds
little osprey
@little osprey Use - Gaming/Word/Youtube, Country - USA, Budget - Don't really have one, maybe sub $500 but trying to get the most out of the RX480
@high flame u have a gpu already ?
versed rock
jagged ember
500 dollar budget then
versed rock
That's the Mugen 5 with a single fan, running full blast, punching with the big bois
stoic island
@versed rock do keep in mind they do fans full blast for some of the testing
noise normalized is more interesting
versed rock
Well, I don't think I can find Noise Normalized for the Mugen 5.
hazy rune
That’s the advantage of noctua
hazy rune
It’s not the cooling, it’s the noise
high flame
@little osprey Yep. Left over from a previous build. Been sitting for about 6 months and wanted to use it for the GF. She does not play very intensive games so its more than enough for her.
versed rock
At Stock Load it's within 1DB of the NH-D15 at Stock Fan Curve
stoic island
I still will suggest a NH-D15s for budgets that fit it
versed rock
And this https://www.tweaktown.com/images/content/8/3/8320_35_scythe-mugen-5-rev-cpu-cooler-review.png
stoic island
whee countable dba eh
jagged ember
for the guy who's building
versed rock
Oh, and it's the quietest at full blast
stoic island
that's fun
versed rock
jagged ember
all you really need is a cpu, mobo, ram and PSU right?
stoic island
oh fun
high flame
Yep! Ryzen GPU, MOBO, 16GB Ram and PSU
jagged ember
okay, cool
little osprey
@little osprey Yep. Left over from a previous build. Been sitting for about 6 months and wanted to use it for the GF. She does not play very intensive games so its more than enough for her.
@high flame want wifi ?
stoic island
I'd still try to get noised normalized testing whenever possible
jagged ember
i'll toss on a PP list soon
high flame
@little osprey Do not need Wifi, but does not hurt
versed rock
I would seriously consider throwing the Scythe Mugen 5 in literally every build that isn't running a super OC'd chip, or a Threadripper.
west coral
Graaaaaaphs
versed rock
At 45 dollars, punching with the NH-D15 is, damn impressive.
versed rock
And the CPU they were testing with is a 6700K
stoic island
mhm
versed rock
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8320/scythe-mugen-5-rev-cpu-cooler-review/index.html Full Article for referencing
high flame
@jagged ember @little osprey This is also not a crazy build. There is no need to use all $500 if it means the GPU is bottlenecked. In a few years when its time to upgrade, It will be a whole system upgrade
jagged ember
damn
little osprey
@jagged ember @little osprey This is also not a crazy build. There is no need to use all $500 if it means the GPU is bottlenecked. In a few years when its time to upgrade, It will be a whole system upgrade
@high flame https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pX9Gqp here u go :)
smo here look over the build and make sure its alright
little osprey
no video card as it is being pulled from an older system
high flame
Yeah - I dig that.
high flame
You can pull storage too. I have SSDs aswell
little osprey
mhm
jagged ember
oop that was added by accident lol
versed rock
Also, just looking at the PC38x, I might buy a pair just to replace my PC37X's and then give my Fiancee the 37X's just to replace her crappy Razer Krakens
versed rock
Albeit, I may have to paint the 37X's Pink...
jagged ember
...maybe not so much anymore
versed rock
But, it'd be a worthy sacrifice.
jagged ember
gotta get the new stuff
versed rock
Also, IDK what kind of crack Sennheiser or Drop was on when they chose the color for the grille backing.
Yellow? Really?
jagged ember
Honestly though i agree with that
why yellow?
like, it's fine if you stare directly towards the camera
jagged ember
basically the only complaint i can make about the 38 is the color scheme
other than that i can't complain
balmy girder
Is there like a company or site or whatever that will build a pc with a parts list i give the? Or something like that? Idk lol
stoic island
dew it yourself
versed rock
It's like Adult Legos
Honestly, in this day and age it is nearly impossible to eff up building a PC
Everything is keyed to were you can't really insert it the wrong way.
balmy girder
I already have lol
jagged ember
and then spending a couple more hours building a pc
versed rock
We can allow you to skip that process of researching.
Because I already do it every day.
jagged ember
you can consider getting someone to build it for you
balmy girder
I just have no clue where to plug everything in psu wise
That's what I want to do lol
versed rock
It's all keyed.
jagged ember
oh, that's not hard lol
versed rock
You literally only have 1 place to plug each thing in.
jagged ember
well, unless it's modular
versed rock
Even then
stoic island
basically 1 place
jagged ember
eh okay
versed rock
The modular side is keyed, and all the cables have labels.
jagged ember
you rite
stoic island
it's like "PCIe_1" and "PCIe_2" and stuff, plug either thing in either one and it works
it just works :)
versed rock
If I could build a PC in the Win9x Era when I was 10 years old, you can build a PC yourself in the Win10 era.
jagged ember
just don't build on a carpet
versed rock
The Win9x era was a PITA to build in.
stoic island
If I can do it, anyone can.
balmy girder
https://www.letsbld.com/starter-series
Is the starts pc plus good for editing and rendering stuff? I'm not looking to do anything insane and from what I've been looking into that should work well
versed rock
No.
stoic island
no