#building-and-recc-chat

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north fern
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What gpu are running

little osprey
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who @north fern

north fern
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Dwella

vital warren
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1060 6gb

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upgrading to 3070

north fern
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Ohhh

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The 3070 can get pretty hot

vital warren
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depends on model

little osprey
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@vital warren thats a nice leap forward

north fern
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The 1060 not so much

next kestrel
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meshify c is overrated

vital warren
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yeah my 1060 rarely tops over 60 c

next kestrel
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i used to have a 1660 super

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single fan

north fern
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Phanteks makes amazing cases for your price range with a mesh front

paper coral
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how much for a editing pc for $2000 australian?

next kestrel
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hit 87degress lol

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in gaming

little osprey
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Yeah it is overrated but I kinda like the looks of it

north fern
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Definitely get a 3900x @paper coral

next kestrel
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gpu model > case model

queen meadow
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I have a P400A, it's honestly the best performing case i've ever had... and better than anything my friends have/had

north fern
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Editing the 3900x is a beast

paper coral
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can u do a parts list @north fern

vital warren
queen meadow
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@paper coral editing what?

paper coral
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videos

little osprey
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that case looks very nice

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@paper coral what's your budget

vital warren
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save money on fans too

north fern
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2k

next kestrel
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scroll up

paper coral
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2000 austrlian @vital warren

north fern
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Oh

vital warren
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can throw another rgb fan on exhaust and you're good suke

north fern
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What’s 2k au into usd?

queen meadow
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1500

vital warren
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1400 usd i think

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around that

next kestrel
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just use au pcpp

north fern
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Oh then the 3900x is out of budget

vital warren
next kestrel
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no point making a list for the american market

exotic kiln
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lmao got the pretty solid deal for 500$

little osprey
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2k aus is about 1400 usd

north fern
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I would go with a 3800x

paper coral
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1408 @north fern

north fern
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If it’s moderate video editing the 3800x is great

vital warren
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probably better off going next gen

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r5 5600x

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depends on benchmarks

north fern
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Oh yeah I would wait for 5th gen ryzen

paper coral
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can u make a parts list

vital warren
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ill attempt to put something together

little osprey
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A 5700 or 5700xt are really good cards for the price

vital warren
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not 2 familiar with au market

north fern
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I think the ryzen 7 5700x is $450 right

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Yeah I’m running a 5700 xt

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It’s amazing

little osprey
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Same

north fern
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I have the gigabyte oc model

little osprey
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Well its currently in transit

next kestrel
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well

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its editing

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so idk abt 5600x

north fern
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You made the best decision ever @little osprey

little osprey
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Yeah my old card was an rx 470

queen meadow
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@paper coral if you wait until next year you will get 30-40% more performance per dollar, it's like the worst time possible to build a PC lol

next kestrel
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both sides forgot about the budget market

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so 320$ 5700xt is pretty good

north fern
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The 3070 is well priced card

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I bought my 5700 xt for $419

next kestrel
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haha yeah for all builds 1.2k and up

north fern
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Still worth it

little osprey
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Going from an rx 470 to an rx 5700xt will be a HUGE leap forward for me

exotic kiln
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@paper coral if you wait until next year you will get 30-40% more performance per dollar, it's like the worst time possible to build a PC lol
i built a pc a month ago, got a bang for the buck

next kestrel
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yeah with fixed drivers too

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amd drivers are

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uhh

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hmm

little osprey
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Yeah amd drivers...

queen meadow
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3070 has to be priced like that, because the 6800 is better and $79 more 😆

north fern
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Yeah I had a rx 570 ithe rx 5700 xt is like 3x more powerful lol

paper coral
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so i need a parts list and then i can get it going

next kestrel
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@queen meadow no it isnt?

north fern
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I wouldn’t be concerned about rx 5700 xt drivers I’ve had mine for a week and it’s been wonderful

next kestrel
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80$ is pretty significant in msrp

queen meadow
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no it isn't what?

next kestrel
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it isnt straight up better

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the benchmarks shown were for the 2080ti

north fern
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No black screens

little osprey
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Amd gpu drivers have slowly gotten better

next kestrel
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which the 3070 beats in multiple games

queen meadow
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of course it is, it straight up performs the same under heavy ray tracing use

little osprey
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A few months ago they used to be a nightmare

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is Nzxt a trustworthy company

north fern
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It takes AMD like a year to fix their drivers that’s why I’ve been waiting

queen meadow
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and that's the only thing the 3070 does better

next kestrel
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@north fern you must have not seen them at release

little osprey
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Nzxt is great

north fern
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Nah I did

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The release was bad

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Especially the rx 5600 xt

queen meadow
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3070 is a worse card in every way until you want to only use raytracing and then it's the same

next kestrel
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no it isnt?

north fern
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The 14gbps bios flash could brick your card if you didn’t know how to flash

next kestrel
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has the 6800 released yet?

queen meadow
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benchmarks agree with me

north fern
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Nah

next kestrel
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are there official unbiased benchmarks?

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oh boy

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AMD benchmarks

little osprey
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Then the new bios got released which made the 5600xt run laps around an rtx 2060

queen meadow
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no it hasn't been released

next kestrel
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haha

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5700xt can compete with 2080ti!

paper coral
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so who has a parts list

next kestrel
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amd during 5700xt release

little osprey
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gtg guys see ya

queen meadow
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AMD aren't intel, they don't cherry pick benchmarks

little osprey
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At 380 bucks

next kestrel
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yes they do

north fern
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The rx 5700 xt can stand toe to toe to a 2080

next kestrel
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they are a company designed to make money

queen meadow
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nothing like intel does

next kestrel
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and their benchmarks have failed before

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and lied

little osprey
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Can't wait for mine to get here

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@paper coral you could get a nzxt streaming pc for 1.5k usd

queen meadow
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but you don't know they are wrong

north fern
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I got a rx 5700 xt for the sole purpose of running my 1440p monitor for cyberpunk

next kestrel
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straight up supporting a company because of a line of product yikes

paper coral
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@little osprey can u send

next kestrel
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and trusting it

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and you dont know they are right?

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so you cant make conclusions about "this card is completely useless"

queen meadow
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and I can't buy a 3070 either?

next kestrel
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yes you can?

little osprey
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I got an rx 5700xt because my rx 470 was starting to show its age

paper coral
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dm to me

north fern
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@little osprey if you check out Pc-builds chat you can see my build

queen meadow
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what? they are sold out

next kestrel
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its available to the market

queen meadow
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not in my country

next kestrel
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cool, do you have confirmation that you can buy amd cards in your country?

regal oracle
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When will we able to get 3070 ??

next kestrel
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what matters is that we have unbiased 3rd party benchmarks for a 3070

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we're not makers, we dont know

queen meadow
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what does that matter lol

little osprey
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@north fern how much did you pay for your rx 5700xt

queen meadow
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so they are better than the ones that have no benchmarks

next kestrel
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it means that thats accurate unbiased performanced

north fern
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@little osprey $419 usd

next kestrel
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it means you can't say they're worthless because a card 80$ more expensive outperforms them

queen meadow
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performance compared to what though

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lol nothing

next kestrel
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yes

queen meadow
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you can say it quite easily and it's most likely true

next kestrel
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you have no argument?

queen meadow
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you have no arguement

next kestrel
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say what quite easily

little osprey
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I have an i5 9400f which in games can hang with an r7 3700x

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But that's about it

north fern
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Since I only use my pc for gaming I should’ve just gotten an i7 lol I dont edit

queen meadow
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you can say the 6800 is better than the 3070

next kestrel
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im saying 3070 isnt blown out of the water because of an unreleased, untested card

queen meadow
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lol, you would have to be a delusional fanboy to say otherwise

next kestrel
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haha yeah delusional for wanting accurate benchmarks?

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my bad my bad

little osprey
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The 9400f is a great gaming chip

next kestrel
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keep trusting that company of yours

glacial umbra
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I asked in the graphics card channel but I'll ask here as well

next kestrel
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who are angels and donate all their money to charities

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yep

glacial umbra
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is the 1070 ti used a viable option by today's standards?

next kestrel
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yes

glacial umbra
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I'm planning to pick one up for my first build for about 150 usd

little osprey
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Depends on the price

next kestrel
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1080p 144fps high settings

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ok thats super good pick it up

little osprey
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Damn

next kestrel
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i picked one up for 200 recently

little osprey
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Wait does it have a blower style cooler?

north fern
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The 1070 ti is as powerful as a rx 5600 xt

glacial umbra
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no it's the amp extreme

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I think

next kestrel
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yeah its a good deal nonetheless

north fern
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True

little osprey
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At 230 the 5600xt is such a good card

next kestrel
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hoo boy amd fanboys

north fern
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I would buy the 1070 ti for the price

glacial umbra
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I can't really find any 5600xts used

little osprey
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gtg yall

north fern
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But definitely upgrade next generation

glacial umbra
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yeah I'll get the 1070 ti

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it'll probably be awhile before I upgrade

little osprey
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For 150 thats an amazing deal

north fern
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Like I like AMD for the price, but I’m neutral I still like nvidia and intel

queen meadow
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saying the 3070 is such a great deal because claims about the card releasing next week probably aren't true is just ridiculous logic. and saying such doesn't make anybody an amd fanboy

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jesus

little osprey
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@glacial umbra what cpu do you have

glacial umbra
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haven't purchased one yet

queen meadow
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I wouldn't buy either until benchmarks

glacial umbra
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I was looking at the ryzen 3 3300x but

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haven't quite decided

little osprey
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The 9700k can be found for a good price

next kestrel
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3070 has to be priced like that, because the 6800 is better and $79 more 😆
@queen meadow

north fern
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I don’t think they produce the 330px Anymore

glacial umbra
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they don't?

north fern
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I think it’s only the 3100 no?

queen meadow
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and it probably will be

glacial umbra
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it's available at canada computers for me

queen meadow
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i wouldn't buy either though until you can compare benchmarks

next kestrel
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ok cool but the 3070 will still be good value

north fern
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Oh yeah then get 3300x

little osprey
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Or @glacial umbra you can get an i5 9400f for 120 usd i believe

queen meadow
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and you can see for sure the 3070 isn't good value lol

next kestrel
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do people still buy 5600xt if the 5700xt is slightly faster?

north fern
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If your are strictly just gaming then intel a better option

queen meadow
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like the 2070 wasn't good value

next kestrel
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80$ difference

glacial umbra
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I have no idea if I'm just gaming yet that's my problem

little osprey
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The 5700xt is much more expensive

glacial umbra
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lol

queen meadow
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it was hot garbage which is why they had to quickly release the super version for the same price

next kestrel
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now you change your stance haha

north fern
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There was someone selling a founders edition 2070 for $375

queen meadow
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the 5700XT was so much cheaper than the 2070S, here in AU, HUNDREDS $

north fern
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Gotta love capitalism

next kestrel
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and the 2070 super had much better performance

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until recently when amd finally updated drivers

little osprey
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You can pick up an rx 5600xt for 230 and an rx 5700xt for 400 so thats a huge price difference

north fern
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Well the 2070 super has better performance for games optimized for nvidia drivers

queen meadow
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5700XT has caught up to the 2070S in some games now

glacial umbra
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I find it weird that people develop biased towards companies

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I don't quite understand why that's a thing

next kestrel
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its stupid

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but hey intel because they failed on a product

queen meadow
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nvidia have certainly never beaten AMD for frames/$ in the last few years

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maybe ever in history? I'm not sure

next kestrel
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1650 super?

north fern
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Well my first build was a i7-6700k and 1050 ti so I’m still neutral in terms of what brands I work with

next kestrel
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1660 super?

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1060 6gb?

queen meadow
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570 was the best $/frames

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by a long way

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at that low end of also lower power consumption

glacial umbra
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ahhh

queen meadow
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nvidia beat amd on power consumption

glacial umbra
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i5-9400f vs 3300x seems like a tough choice

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more cores and threads but less gaming performance it looks like

next kestrel
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3300x if its available at msrp

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which it never is

glacial umbra
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really?

little osprey
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4c 8t vs 6c 6t

glacial umbra
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it is in canada

next kestrel
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yep

queen meadow
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I have a 3300X, single core is faster than 3600X

next kestrel
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more expandable platform

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but that doesnt mean lets burn intel to the ground

queen meadow
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unless you can get to a 5600X there's really no point in getting anything other than a 3300X for gaming

little osprey
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The 9400f trails a few frames behind the 3600

next kestrel
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in america the 3300x isnt available

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at msrp

glacial umbra
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ah

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lucky to be canadian

queen meadow
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yeah somebody told me recently they paid a crazy price for a cpu

next kestrel
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check your markets

queen meadow
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check online, if you can get it shipped across country it's probably worth it

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if you get it close to MSRP

glacial umbra
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I can buy it for you and ship it to you lol

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but it'll cost 40000

next kestrel
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eh, my 2600x is fine

glacial umbra
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;)

next kestrel
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for a long time

glacial umbra
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yeah doesn't seem like a bad choice

next kestrel
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wouldn't recommend it

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unless u got the MC deal

glacial umbra
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I keep thinking I'll get this cpu or something and then switching my mind

next kestrel
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where it was 80$

glacial umbra
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oh?

little osprey
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I'm gonna pair a 9900k to a h310 board just for fun

hidden acorn
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I wanted to ask for a second opinion on this parts list that im thinking about getting for my 1st pc build

queen meadow
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whatever you buy, you can always sell it on ebay in 3 months, upgrade to 5600X

glacial umbra
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probably gonna leave my build for a while

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just wanna be able to play games with my dad

next kestrel
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you should leave it alone

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you never "have" to upgrade

queen meadow
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if you're upgrading, it's a terrible time to upgrade lol

glacial umbra
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yeah

next kestrel
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unless you're on the budget side of things

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where your precious companies didnt think enough to add parts for

glacial umbra
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hopefully the cpu I'm looking at goes on sale for black friday

queen meadow
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especially if you're upgrading to a 3070, when fanboys can still cling to the 6000 series not being as good as everybody says because no benchmarks are out yet. keep the prices nice and high.

next kestrel
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haha yeah nvidia is a bad company too

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for not releasing their lower end cards

queen meadow
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pretty sure the prices will be 10-15% lower in about 2 months

next kestrel
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sure

queen meadow
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lol

next kestrel
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when was i fanboying over nvidia?

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i just said its stupid to trust AMD?

queen meadow
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I wasn't talking about you

next kestrel
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over all their marketing

queen meadow
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nvidia fanboyism is worse here than USA

glacial umbra
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im scared that my pc case is gonna suck

next kestrel
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there's a reason for those fanboys

glacial umbra
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I bought a case without really researching into it

next kestrel
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and its called losing trust in buyers

little osprey
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Well we will have to wait and see what amd has to offer for 6000 series (most likely the rtx 3000 series will still beat it lol)

queen meadow
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people price a 970 like a 5600XT

next kestrel
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from AMD

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once a company releases a high end GPU, they expect it to work as advertised

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nvidia messed up this time

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with 3080 drivers

queen meadow
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and the 2080 series with the space invaders hardware defects in significant volume

glacial umbra
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the case I bought supports atx but I'm pretty sure it's designed for micro ATX

queen meadow
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and the time before that, and the drivers not working the time before that

little osprey
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But imagine if the 6900xt could beat the 3090 i highly doubt it tho

next kestrel
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AMD took a couple years to fix their problems

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nvidia fixed it within weeks

little osprey
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They still have problems to fix

queen meadow
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you should seriously listen to some news @little osprey

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lol

next kestrel
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in gaming yeah it can

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3090 isnt a card geared purely towards gaming

queen meadow
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the 5000 series graphics was using a new node, hence driver issues

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it's silly to think the 6000 series is going to have the same issues

next kestrel
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that they took a year to fix

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that'll lose you some customers

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does the average buyer know that?

little osprey
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Its probably gonna have issues but probably not as bad

queen meadow
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it doesn't seem like the average buyer cares

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I dunno I have always bought at the mid-end of a generation and never had a single issue, 270X, 470, 580, 5600XT

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and everybody in my family has a PC similar or identical to mine...

little osprey
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I feel like mid range hardware is always just right for me

queen meadow
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I still have a phenom x2 running in my media center

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@little osprey me too i'm exactly the same lol

little osprey
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Mid range is the sweet spot for gaming in my opinion

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High end is too expensive and low end isn't powerful enough

queen meadow
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plus my electric bill 😆

little osprey
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Oh yeah that's one thing most people forget about

queen meadow
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under full load my PC is only drawing 250watts

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3300X + 5600XT

little osprey
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I need to check what my max power draw is

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My old system is a 9400f+rx470 but today I bought an rx 5700xt

queen meadow
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I only know because I recently bought an uninterrupted power supply thing, has a read out on the display

little osprey
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There is probably some free program that could tell me my power draw

queen meadow
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nah

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the PSU doesn't send info to the mobo, just power

little osprey
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If I had to guess it would probably be 300 to 350 watts

queen meadow
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that sounds spot on

little osprey
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The recommended psu for the 5700xt from amd is 700w but my 500w will definitely cut it

queen meadow
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closer to 300 than 350 but depends on the brand and how much they overclocked it

little osprey
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I'll be overclocking for sure

queen meadow
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you get exponential diminishing returns

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when overclocking anything

exotic kiln
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i need help overclocking

viral ore
next kestrel
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still returns

exotic kiln
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idk how to

viral ore
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has some info on power draw

next kestrel
little osprey
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First get msi afterburner

viral ore
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250w peak

next kestrel
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he didnt specify which part lol

little osprey
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True

queen meadow
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there is no need for msi afterburner for amd cards

little osprey
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Amd software is kind of a pain to deal with

queen meadow
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dunno if you've tried lately

next kestrel
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they've been getting better

queen meadow
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but it seems very easy now lol

next kestrel
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still msi afterburner is better

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until we see how good "rage mode"

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is with the new cards

little osprey
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Msi afterburner is straightforward with 0 gimmicks

queen meadow
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steve from gamers nexus said rage mode is not overclocking

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or something?

little osprey
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Its not

next kestrel
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its like PBO?

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or XMP

queen meadow
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I'm looking at the manual overclocking panel in AMD software, I see GPU tuning, VRAM, Power, and fan

next kestrel
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so 1click oc

queen meadow
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what gimmick and how is that hard lol

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it's slider the same as afterburner

little osprey
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Its uses 5th gen ryzen cpus to somehow get more performance out of 6000 series cards

queen meadow
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shared access memory

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is separate to rage mode

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there's both SAM and Rage

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SAM does 3 times more than Rage mode does

little osprey
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I've been using afterburner forever and there is nothing really wrong with it

queen meadow
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no nothing wrong with it

clever sonnet
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hey guys

viral prairie
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Hi everyone, I live in France and I've got a completed build that draws around 260W on a 650W PSU (space to upgrade in the near future with the new hardware that's been released/announced).
The power here where I live is kind of unstable, with short brown or black outs especially in the winter times.
I was wondering what kind of UPS (uninterruptible power supply) someone could recommend me that isn't too expensive, budget is max €200 or so, and could also support a newer GPU such as the 3070 whenever I'd like to upgrade.

queen meadow
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I just bought that exact thing

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@viral prairie I think VP1600ELCD falls exactly in line with all your requirements

long topaz
viral prairie
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@queen meadow thanks, I'll check that out

queen meadow
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@long topaz well since the 3600X is more available/cheaper than 3300X... it's a good low ultra low power pick. It might even run league of legends and rocket league... or... facebook games

long topaz
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well, I can say, it can run league

queen meadow
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I mean... I'm guessing you're going to save up for a graphics card for 6 months after you get this PC

long topaz
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next week

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well

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end of this week

queen meadow
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everything but the graphics card is much higher calibre than a 1660ti

long topaz
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Im buying a proper monitor at the same time

queen meadow
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what are you going to buy instead of a 1660ti

long topaz
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wdym

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after the 1660?

queen meadow
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1660ti will never get close to using the capacity of the rest of the machine

long topaz
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probably sit on it until 3000 series restocks next year

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so maybe a 3060 if im lucky

queen meadow
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everything will be running at 20% while your 1660ti will be at 100%

long topaz
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I play mostly R6 CS and League so it runs fairly well in that case I'ld say

queen meadow
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I mean the 1660ti is a good place holder 👍 even for months

long topaz
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they dont really demand much from the gpu and ive used a 1660 super before

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on rent

queen meadow
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yeah it will be great for those games

long topaz
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so my experience using that one on an intel machine influenced this sorta

queen meadow
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I would wait 6 months and keep the 1660ti

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but maybe look at a budget card in 6 months

long topaz
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besides Im not gonna put my res above 1080p pretty much ever xd

queen meadow
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you will probably get something 3 times the power for a hundred usd

long topaz
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maybe 1440p in a few years 0_0

queen meadow
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well 150-200

long topaz
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yea Its just that the 1030 is just the post card

lofty mica
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whats the cheapest build i can do without having a bad pc?

long topaz
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i got that last week

queen meadow
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I think 1080p monitors are about to vanish tbh

woven vessel
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hello guys.. i needed some help with pc parts

long topaz
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nah dude

woven vessel
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can anyone help?

lofty mica
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whats up

mystic stream
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Hie eveyone

queen meadow
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i think in less than 2 years 1080p monitors will be 1 in 10 monitors

long topaz
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sure whats your budget and what's your brand inclination on CPU

lofty mica
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hello

queen meadow
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instead of 8-9 in 10

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they will be basically relegated to history lol

long topaz
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heh maybe

woven vessel
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so is this good enough for gaming and streaming?

long topaz
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brother did you just type 3080

woven vessel
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yup

queen meadow
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when the worst graphics card of this current gen can play 1440p in every game

long topaz
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why is there a 3080 in there you cant find those?

woven vessel
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oh no i am from indian and stock is gonna come soon

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also i am not in a hurry

long topaz
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i mean yea its good but you wouldnt be able to finish this machine for a while

lofty mica
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so is this good enough for gaming and streaming?
@woven vessel looks good but whats the cpu?

queen meadow
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yeah the stock will come for everybody soon

long topaz
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the cpu is ryzen dude

woven vessel
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ryzen 7 5800x

lofty mica
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oh

long topaz
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yea it would work well

queen meadow
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I can't see anything being out of stock much into next year

lofty mica
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oooohhhhh

ripe oar
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you gonna get the 3070? @queen meadow

long topaz
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but you can probably afford downgrading unless you need it

queen meadow
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definitely not lol

lofty mica
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@woven vessel I would suggest getting a 2070 for right now then upgrade to 3080

queen meadow
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I always buy cards on $/fps

lofty mica
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wait for stocks to rise a bit

long topaz
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hes making a wait for list i think techno

ripe oar
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makes sense

lofty mica
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Oooooooooohhh

queen meadow
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and nvidia is always price hiked more than AMD in Australia specifically

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so there isn't much contest

woven vessel
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@lofty mica dont have that much money to spare. and apart from that i am not in a hurry.. i'll start collecting parts when they come in stock

long topaz
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dont get the card or cpu on stock? --> buy something else thats cheaper or wait, i think everyone knows that

queen meadow
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I'm pretty sure 6800 will be more than $79 better than the 3070. but we'll have to see

long topaz
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but yea definitely a respectable parts list I think

queen meadow
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currently the 3070 in my country is over $700USD so, who knows if that $79 difference will even exist for me

long topaz
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if money isnt an issue

ripe oar
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i see

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thnx for explaining

long topaz
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Knifey you might as well have had a family member ship one from the US xD

queen meadow
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I think if you're considering 3070, just wait a week or two for real 6000 series benchmarks

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the price is close and you don't want to get completely splattered for $79

long topaz
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I honestly am going to wait on the Radeon a little just because I want to know how well it works with a ryzen CPU in benchmarks

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might be worth waiting the extra time and ignore the 1660 ti :/

queen meadow
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they did tell you that in the AMD release

long topaz
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im talking third party

queen meadow
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fair enough

long topaz
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AMD is fairly accurate but GPU company benchmarks are always iffy

queen meadow
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even if they cherry picked the settings for games, which they didn't because they specifically said what the settings were

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they may have cherry picked games, which I don't think they did because... it seemed like the games reviewers use a lot

long topaz
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they can standardize plenty of things, but companies can get away with a lot

queen meadow
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I don't know how they could cherry pick things to make the SAM and RAGE boost better than it is?

long topaz
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so its down to GN reviews and such

queen meadow
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because it's a % of the FPS score

long topaz
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RAGE boost is stupid

queen meadow
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lol indeed

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it's like what is this, 2004

long topaz
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just overclock it honestly

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jeez

queen meadow
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the name is stupid

long topaz
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lol

queen meadow
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make sure you watch the gamers nexus video from the 29th about it

long topaz
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have

queen meadow
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there may be something about rage mode

long topaz
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there was one for a bit more recent, it was like 2% for RAGE

queen meadow
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🤔 okay so all it does is unlock max voltage

long topaz
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barely any performance gain

queen meadow
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like pushing the limit slider in software overclocking

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I'm wondering if there is actually something that physically changes on the card or if it's just a physical switch to a software setting in the firmware

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this may be something that actually helps the card overclock 🤷‍♂️

long topaz
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as far as I understand it, i dont believe it aids in OC

queen meadow
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it will certainly be interesting

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ahhh they have said it doesn't OC, and it's not an OC

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that's a very different thing in saying it doesn't AID in overclocking 😄

long topaz
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ah

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well thats something

queen meadow
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yeah because whenever you're overclocking in a serious way

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previously they have always hacked some numbers somewhere to increase the amount of voltage

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they have to bypass the safety limits built into the card, so there's definitely a relationship with OC and more voltage

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anyway I gtg 😄

long topaz
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Welp I realized that I have a chance in building a 2060 system this weekend :/

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huh

blazing karma
#

how long do yall think i could get away with using the stock wraith cooler on a r7 3700x

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or should i just get a 3rd party cooler PumpkinThink

lyric thistle
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until entropy

weak linden
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am using a 2010 dells to play video games lmao. 😦

blazing karma
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had to look up that word

long topaz
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if you can afford it, just get one

weak linden
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lolz damn right

long topaz
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it'll probably look better, and definitely perform better

weak linden
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am saving

blazing karma
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prob

long topaz
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just figure out if you want an AIO or air cooler

west coral
#

Good news is you can get a really good tower-style air-cooler for relatively cheap these days, and in most situations they perform as well as or (in some cases) even out-perform All-in-one water coolers

weak linden
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i want the 3070 but out of stock everywher

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where*

clever sonnet
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hi guys

weak linden
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wassup

blazing karma
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yeah definitely gonna go with an air cooler

clever sonnet
#

i just built my pc and i had a boot loop issue

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so i reseated my ram

long topaz
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Ive had to ring up some 3070 and its truely painful

clever sonnet
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and it works now

long topaz
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they're way heavier than i thought though

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what memory are you running

clever sonnet
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i pressed the power button and it booted up once

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and turned off and now its working fine

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if i use an AIO should i hear some water sounds

long topaz
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no?

clever sonnet
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like a little trickle

long topaz
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idk i dont use one wait on someone else

clever sonnet
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i have 3200

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its on rn

west coral
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How do you have your AIO oriented

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is the radiator sideways?

clever sonnet
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uh the radiator is on the top

west coral
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it will probably go away in time then, it's just getting air-bubbles out to the top of the loop

clever sonnet
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oh ok

west coral
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assuming it's newly installed

clever sonnet
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yeah it is

vague maple
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@bronze salmon come here

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what were your questions regarding ryzen 5000?

bronze salmon
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alrights soo, is there a direct upgrade from ryzen 7 3700x or atleast a counterpart -> 5000 series

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can't word it right but yeah xD

vague maple
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you mean is there going to be a 5700X?

bronze salmon
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^ yah yah ;w;

brave harness
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ryzen 7 5800x and 5900x

vague maple
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well

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as far as i know, AMD has not confirmed the 5700X

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but iirc, the 3700X wasn

brave harness
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are ryzen 7 5000 series choice for now

vague maple
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there at launch

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so

west coral
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AMD have done a cool thing with AM4, so yeah, you should be able to drop in the new CPUs when they come out but it may require a bios update, I'd check with your mobo manufacturer

vague maple
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what i'm saying is that, most likely there will be a 5700X, just not on launch, BUT they have not confirmed one yet

bronze salmon
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oh so prolly they'll slde the other models quietly

vague maple
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yes, they'll release the XT versions and the non X versions for sure, so we know there are more 5000 series CPUs coming

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ryzen 7 5800x and 5900x
@brave harness that is false

gray cairn
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Looking to build a pc with a ryzen 5000 series and either a 3080 or 6800 xt(whichever I can get lol). should I be getting the rest of the parts piecemeal?

vague maple
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the 5600X, 5800X, 5900X and the 5950X are all being released upon launch, plus the 5600 is confirmed as well I think

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Looking to build a pc with a ryzen 5000 series and either a 3080 or 6800 xt(whichever I can get lol). should I be getting the rest of the parts piecemeal?
@gray cairn piecemeal?

brave harness
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oh yea

gray cairn
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Piece by piece

bronze salmon
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Piece by piece
@gray cairn same plan actually

vague maple
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well sure, but how long are you going to space out getting the parts?

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and its generally better to buy all the parts at once

gray cairn
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Untill I can get the gpu

vague maple
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ok

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So you're looking at buying the parts now and most likely getting the gpu at December-February

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if you buy all the parts besides the GPU at around the same time, there won't be any issues

bronze salmon
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tho just for reference, would an aorus x570 master be a good match with a 5000 series (i mean some kind of cpu that you guys might recommend) + 3070 or 3080, or i might be missing some functionalities

vague maple
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yeah that's fine

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but

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it's quite expensive

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a 350 dollar motherboard?

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the b550 tomahawk has literally everything you need, good look, great VRMS, overclocking capabilities, 4 memory slots, gen 4 m.2 slots

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all for 170-180 bucks

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mhmm

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i'm assuming you're a new builder and don't know how much to spend on parts?

bronze salmon
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yeah TwT)

vague maple
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what's your budget and current build part list?

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i'll take a look at it

bronze salmon
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i currently have 400 ish hahaha, tho was aiming for 2000 by the end of the year

vague maple
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i see

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350 is VERY overkill for a 2000 dollar build budget

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do you want me to make you a parts list

west coral
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PC Hardware has not been so exciting in years, really looking forward to when demand and supply normalise a bit, I think I'm going to go on a PC-building binge XD

bronze salmon
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created this back then when 3000 was not out yet, tho yeah i'd appreciate it if you would @vague maple ;')

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also no idea how to pair memory and motherboard, so yeah, guide me guys ;w;

lyric thistle
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you're good

tiny cape
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i would change the m.2

lyric thistle
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though I think you could swap the ram for 3600 c16

west coral
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Pairing mobo and memory is much easier these days, since basically every board support DDR4, it's about tuning performance more than anything - XMP profiles even take care of clocking the ram correctly at a bios level.
Honestly, for gaming 3600 c16 like MrManiac suggests is probably the sweet-spot for price performance. Though, I am hard pressed to notice any difference between CL16 and CL18 tbh

tiny cape
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maybe also upgrade to a 3070

bronze salmon
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oh, oh my did not see the cl18 there, price kinda the same right so prolly switching won't hurt

west coral
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didn't notice the GPU XD

worn basin
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upgrade to 3070 he says lol

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gl getting one

west coral
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if you can wait on GPU you may be better getting a 3070 or AMD equivalent when they are available

bronze salmon
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i mean i'll prolly get the graphics card late, not really expecting to save till late january or feb

tiny cape
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oh k

bronze salmon
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case tho ;'0, i mean

west coral
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I am willing to wager supply will normalise by then

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(I hope XD)

tiny cape
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another thing is try and get an m.2 that is gen 4

elfin swallow
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yooooo

bronze salmon
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oh, is it true btw, like x570+ 5000 series would do things to the mother board (i mean positive ones xD)

elfin swallow
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mind if i splurge my build idea?

west coral
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if he's just using it as a boot drive I don't think that'll matter much, if anything he could go a little lower end for a boot nvme

tiny cape
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if u say so

west coral
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then grab a high performance 2tb Gen4 SSD when he has the money & direct storage is out and in-use

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for games that use it

tiny cape
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that's pretty big brain

west coral
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for older games, the spinning disk whilst not the most ideal is waaay better bang for buck in terms of storage

pale ivy
#

when your poor so you have to do a sub $600 build

tiny cape
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true

bronze salmon
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gen 4 is kinda like the copper one right? (aorus)

west coral
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All builds are beautiful and need love 😛

elfin swallow
#

what about this one?

tiny cape
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and others

pale ivy
#

anyone have suggestions for a sub $600 AU

elfin swallow
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ive already got storage and my power supply figured out

tiny cape
#

where's the cooler

elfin swallow
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going with a 3070, or one of those new amd cards

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cpu doesnt need a cooler 👌

pale ivy
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lol

elfin swallow
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kidding ive got an h100i from my old build i can use if its compatible

tiny cape
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i wouldn't recommend amd stock cooler though

west coral
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H100i has an AM4 mount last I checked, if your missing yours then Corsair are usually good at sending out spares

tiny cape
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thank god

pale ivy
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its not that bad, just not recommended for overclocking

elfin swallow
#

so id need an AM4 mount?

pale ivy
west coral
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should come with one, the metal bits that slip into the pump head and hold it onto the mobo should slide out and be replicable. If it's the h100i I think it is

elfin swallow
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I might have an older model of the H100i, dont know how much theyve updated it but I bought mine 4 years ago.

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@pale ivy thats a pretty expensive build

lyric thistle
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what country? @pale ivy

tiny cape
#

i think he maybe Australian

lyric thistle
#

sadge

west coral
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Corsair sell a mounting bracket kit for their hydro series coolers for about 5-10 USD

lyric thistle
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anyway don't go TT Smart

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not particularly good psu series, often kills computers when they fail

elfin swallow
#

thinking of popping one of these in instead of a 3070

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thoughts?

west coral
#

I see your PC will run GLaDOS

lyric thistle
#

perfect

elfin swallow
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I need to make sure I get my carbs in

tiny cape
#

you'll be getting 1000fps

elfin swallow
#

even at 720p?

tiny cape
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nah 8k

elfin swallow
#

pog

tiny cape
elfin swallow
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you think I should have more than 750w for my power supply?

vague maple
#

who pinged me

elfin swallow
#

running pretty much the same build as you @tiny cape

vague maple
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200 dollars is too much for a psu slime

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you dont need 850 watts for a 3070

elfin swallow
#

might need to reserve extra 100 watts for rgb

vague maple
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dude that's an awful build @tiny cape everything is so horribly overpriced

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might need to reserve extra 100 watts for rgb
@elfin swallow do you REALLY think 100 watts go to RGB alone?

elfin swallow
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i want sick rgb

west coral
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Need those LEDs to be viewable from the moon

elfin swallow
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^

vague maple
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still doesn't mean that RGB ever consumes 100 watts

bronze salmon
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who pinged me
me :0, tho kinda had a general idea on what route i'll take

vague maple
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oh

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what do you need my help for

tiny cape
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i live in Australia so it's different pricing

elfin swallow
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I was entirely joshing about 100 watts for RGB if you couldnt tell

vague maple
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ohhh ok

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that makes a lot more sense

bronze salmon
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i made this list of parts but i think it's aight (i think, kinda outdated and needs some changes, c16 and stuffs)

vague maple
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thought you were using us dollars

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I was entirely joshing about 100 watts for RGB if you couldnt tell
@elfin swallow i was hoping you were

tiny cape
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don't worry

elfin swallow
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750W fine for 3070 build then?

vague maple
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more than fine

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you can get away with 650 watts

elfin swallow
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word up

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I heard the new cards suck power tho

vague maple
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@tiny cape i would recommend downgrading the psu to 650-750 watts, upgrading to cl16 ram and you definitely need more storage

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a firecuda is honestly overkill

tiny cape
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i went for 850 because it was the same price as 750

vague maple
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oh ok

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I heard the new cards suck power tho
@elfin swallow they do, 650 as a minimum is very very high

tiny cape
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500gb is fine for me

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i can expand later

bronze salmon
#

reposting just incase =w= (might consider b550 but pcie gen4 :x)

vague maple
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ok

west coral
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I tend to aim high on PSUs, mainly because they use better parts at the higher end, but there's a point of diminishing returns on that.
In my experience 750 is a good sweet spot

vague maple
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i cant tell if that motherboard is overpriced though, since pricing is off, but converting it to usd to is 285 dollars, which is WAY too much for a build like that @tiny cape

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I tend to aim high on PSUs, mainly because they use better parts at the higher end, but there's a point of diminishing returns on that.
In my experience 750 is a good sweet spot
@west coral not necessarily

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there are amazing budget psus out there

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the evga br

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corsair rm 650 watts

tiny cape
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honestly idk

vague maple
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reposting just incase =w= (might consider b550 but pcie gen4 :x)
@bronze salmon b550 has gen 4

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lots of issues with that build, you want me to list them all or just send me the link and ill rebuild it

bronze salmon
vague maple
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you want rgb?

bronze salmon
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tho i'm not sure if it will help but, kinda want a black and white system xD

vague maple
#

ok

bronze salmon
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yeah some rgb's i guess ;')

vague maple
#

ok

tiny cape
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rgb makes your pc performance 10 time better

west coral
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^ True facts

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I put RGB into my PC, runs 10C cooler

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granted I changed the case and fans at the same time, but that has nothing to do with it

tiny cape
#

if u hate rgb then u have no soul

bronze salmon
vague maple
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I would STRONGLY recommend waiting to see how the 5000 series cpus preform

tiny cape
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meh

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i like those lian li uni fans

west coral
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The minimalist cage design is interesting, but I dunno, if the cage doesn't diffuse the light perfectly it could be a bit glaring

vague maple
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red and black rgb is outdated

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plain and simple

west coral
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but I can imagine, if they do diffuse the light nicely that could be a cool in a clean looking/futuristic themed build

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maybe in white, or ARGB

bronze salmon
#

oh, @vague maple thanks ;')

vague maple
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np

west coral
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360 mm CPU AIO not a bit overkill?

vague maple
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it is, but to be honest, the price jump from 240/280 to 360 is like 20 dollars

west coral
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Fair enough

vague maple
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no reason not to do it unless you're not a extensive budget, which then you shouldn't be buying aios

west coral
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Nothing wrong with overkill mind, I have a 360mm rad simply because it looks good

vague maple
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yeah thats the biggest reason lol

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it looks sick

west coral
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xD

clever sonnet
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excuse me guys

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how do i install extra fans

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like where do i plug them into

lyric thistle
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what board do you have?

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look up either your board's manual or a picture of the board and look for the fan headers

past briar
#

@lyric thistle he has an asus z390 tuf gaming,

lyric thistle
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ah ic

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still, just look for the little 4 pins

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then read their label for Cha

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somebody having trouble with MEE6 😳

past briar
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shhhh

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atleast im not violating any rules atm

lyric thistle
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lol

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MEE6 needs to be banned

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constantly disruptive behavior smh

past briar
#

@clever sonnet here are the fan pins on the motherboard]

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you have 5 pins

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1 pin for the cpu fan

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and extra 4 for case fans

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but they do not let you control the rgb scheme on the bios directly or using 3rd party controller software

timid bronze
#

who can help me build a new setup?

past briar
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what's your new setup?

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i can help

timid bronze
#

im planning to get the 5600x with the 3070

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now i just need the correct motherboard and ram and all of those parts

past briar
#

are you upgrading for future parts?

timid bronze
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im building a whole new setup

past briar
#

but in the near future are you going for upgrades?

timid bronze
#

and i just wait for the 3070 to be in stock on newegg

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probably not

past briar
#

lemme check newegg

timid bronze
#

ok

past briar
#

do you need RGB or go for minimalistic?

timid bronze
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full rgb= fps

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im gonna buy the lian li razer edition

past briar
#

are you budget wise type?

timid bronze
#

i got a budget but its not in dollars so i dont know how much exactly

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and also, will i be able to control all of my rgb from one program?

past briar
#

it will depend on your type of fan, setup and controls

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but on rgb

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it will

thorny tusk
#

Right now is not the best time to be building

elder mason
#

Y?

timid bronze
#

i just want it to be easy to synchronize all of my rgv

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rgb

past briar
#

Y? @thorny tusk

thorny tusk
#

Because all the price Will probably drop begining of next year

burnt current
#

im looking to build a whole new computer for streaming how does this look and anything i should change

hearty obsidian
#

its too much in shipping 🙂

burnt current
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lol

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to be fair most of it ill get from amazon due to prime

past briar
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RAM: Trident Z 3200 RGB
MOBO: X570 AORUS XTREME
GFX: AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 MASTER 8G Key
PSU: Corsair CX750F RGB White — 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
for storage and casing not sure on your part also the fan varies @timid bronze

timid bronze
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@past briar for storage im looking for 500gb nvme gen 4 if the motherboard supports that and a 2tb hdd

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and fans i just want some good fans that will be easy to sync

hearty obsidian
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but seriously though id wait to see how AMD's 6000 series gpus end up doing, you might actually be able to get one too...

burnt current
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im going to keep my eye out for the new gpu's but i plan to build this pc in the next month or two

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im just waiting for a few deals on cyber monday

timid bronze
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@burnt current same

hearty obsidian
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looking forward to the prices

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im cheap xD

burnt current
#

Everyone is just sitting ducks at the moment

hearty obsidian
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places are starting to have deals already so its only a matter of time

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you might want a HDD just for some extra space. 1tb is sadly to easy to fill

timid bronze
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@past briar dude that X570 AORUS XTREME is so expensive wth

burnt current
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yeh i have a 2tb hdd at home so i didnt bother adding it to the list

hearty obsidian
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ah yeah that should do it

bronze salmon
#

xtreme is overkill TwT

hearty obsidian
#

$1700 for the mobo alone...

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yeah id pass

burnt current
#

that is just so extreme

hearty obsidian
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no its xtreme

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🙂

burnt current
#

true

clever sonnet
#

hi guys

hearty obsidian
#

hello

timid bronze
#

i was thinking about the asus rog b550f, is that a good mobo?

clever sonnet
#

where do i plug my front fans in

burnt current
#

im going for an MSI B550-A PRO

clever sonnet
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they are connected to my front panel io

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and rgb is on

timid bronze
#

does the asus b550f have gen 4 nvme support?

hearty obsidian
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looks like it yes

timid bronze
#

im gonna buy the corsair rgb pro 3600 cl16 2x8

past briar
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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
CPU Cooling: AMD Wraith Max (Passive), COUGAR Helor 240 (Dual Radiator), COUGAR Helor 360 (Triple Radiator)
RAM: Trident Z 3200 RGB
MOBO: X570 AORUS PRO
GFX: AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 MASTER 8G Key
PSU: Corsair CX750F RGB White — 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
FANs: COUGAR Vortex RGB HPB 120 Cooling Kit or Deepcool CF 120 – 3 in 1 or LL120 RGB 120mm Dual Light Loop RGB LED PWM Fan - 3 Fan Pack with Lighting Node PRO
CASE: Lian-Li PC O11 Dynamic Razer Edition
SSD: AORUS NVMe Gen4 SSD 500GB
HDD: WD 2TB Black Edition

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@timid bronze

timid bronze
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why a auros mobo and not asus?

past briar
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not sure if the psu supports rgb daisy chain with the software for Aorus but has Icue

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@timid bronze gigabyte are like rgb addicts

timid bronze
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i heard asus has aura sync and it works with razer synapse

past briar
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asus not kind of type of aura sync but has razer synapse

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and not sure what razer supports for hardware

timid bronze
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i would prefer for everything or atleast most of the things to be controlled within razer synapse

past briar
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if u want full ass RGB everything to your bedroom and your rgb room

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go for certified Razer edition hardware

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since i don't know much about razer since their LTS sucks

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and price wise too

timid bronze
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yeah thats what i want buy how can i know what hardware has razer support

past briar
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your not limited to the hard ware

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just limited to what manufacturer gonna support to deliver if u going for razer

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also idk much for razer hardware sorry

timid bronze
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hmm

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does it matter if i get 3600 instead of 3200

past briar
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i know that every accessories they have has rgb support just don't know what type of hardware are they supporting at

timid bronze
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i think im gonna go with the asus b550

uncut pelican
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I auggest msi mpg b550 gaming plus

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But u do u

buoyant pilot
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hi guys im getting a o11d and im looking for some quiet but good performance fans

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i tought of going full p12 pwm pst, ik they are really good but i wonder if there are any rgb fans as quiet as the p12 or noctua a12x25

little osprey
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any suggestions on upgrading my pc? i just posted pics a couple mins ago in build pics

fallen harbor
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@stoic island I might need your help later

little osprey
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@little osprey I would say a better motherboard in the B450 chipset, a better GPU in the RTX 20- or 30- series, a higher wattage PSU that's 80+ certified, and maybe a case with better airflow. The CPU, RAM, and Storage are good.

uncut pelican
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@little osprey dony get a new gpu unless u want a new one, new psu maybe new case

grave coral
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building a pc with the gf she's super new to the gaming world thoughts on this parts list

still roostBOT
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SpunkyDaMunkey#7041 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

little osprey
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i will give someone nothing if they can put together a pcpartpicker list of a budget of 650 $$$$

coarse path
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help

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can minecraft run off vega 8

real cobalt
coarse path
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ok for the i-7 build a 1000w psu is way overkill

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and you could get a WD blue 1tb for storage

little osprey
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@uncut pelican @little osprey thanks buds 👌 🤘 ill copy those comments aand keep them in my notes, greatly appreciated

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Of course! Anytime.

uncut pelican
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Np :)

little osprey
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i was thinking of saving up for the 2080 ti, and knew id have to upgrade the mb just wasnt sure in what direction to go with that, same with upgrading my psu

neon tide
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gotta love it when you have 32gb of ram from a friend and your motherboard doesn't support it because it's a hand me down with ddr3

little osprey
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damn 😦

coarse path
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yikes

little osprey
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what can i build for 650?

neon tide
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i got 4x8gb ddr4 2400mhz from a friend

little osprey
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that green lightup tho 😮

coarse path
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One purpose , two builds. Which is best to go?
I'm in dillema, I could buy older CPU build at great deal of price
https://il.pcpartpicker.com/user/des/saved/MPtFgs
or
new upcoming amd build which will be much more costlier, please note that that in both builds there are few parts that are already purchased
https://il.pcpartpicker.com/user/des/saved/4kZd99
@real cobalt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dYrVcT

neon tide
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good question, personally for me, the R7 instead of the i7

real cobalt
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also isn't MB too old for zen 3 r7 5800x?

lyric thistle
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Some B450 boards support Zen3

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Hit or miss, but there's still some support

coarse path
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@coarse path u changed PSU there , but i already have it purchased 😄
@real cobalt ok then I though you were gonna buy

lyric thistle
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You can set an item as purchased in pc part picker

stoic island
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@fallen harbor okai

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just @ me

grave coral
vague maple
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oh my god @stoic island

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you became a legend

stoic island
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:P

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I can be lazy now

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and not edit lists

little osprey
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o my why thank you

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@grave coral wtf is that list

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@little osprey please dont build the list spunky sent

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ok....

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wtf am i looking at..

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Kolm

stoic island
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ya know

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at some point

little osprey
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budget/use of this pc ?

stoic island
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people will stop getting dramless drives

little osprey
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but like why in the first place

lyric thistle
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At some point

stoic island
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until then, we can't have world peace

lyric thistle
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This means war

stoic island
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people just click sort by cheapest

little osprey
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god kolm please let me compile you a real list

stoic island
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and click cheapest thing

little osprey
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700$ games at 1080p

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thats so easy

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i have one pre made

stoic island
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Ima go see if I made a list yesterday

little osprey
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better than that heap of junk Spunky posted

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ty

stoic island
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eek

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I dunno man

little osprey
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bro he put a 2600

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at this price point a 10100 will outperform any 2600

stoic island
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10100 with 2666mhz ram

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definitely not my preferred choice

little osprey
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10100 with 2666mhz ram beats 3100 in gaming

stoic island
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you sure?

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GN testing said otherwise

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well that was with the 10400f iirc

little osprey
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looking at it now

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gn said it with the 10400f not the 10100

stoic island
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what you looking at then

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because 10400f should be higher bin than 10100

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link whatever you're seeing plz

uncut pelican
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Got a question bout os

little osprey
uncut pelican
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Wheres the best site to buy os at

lyric thistle
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eBay

uncut pelican
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I do not think so

stoic island
little osprey
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oh great we have the same ss

stoic island
little osprey
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of course intel will be losing in some games due to the nature of the game, all im saying is a 2600 at that price point is outrageous to say the least

stoic island
little osprey
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the 10100 and 3100 trade blows in gaming performance

stoic island
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I'm just saying

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10100 with 2666mhz ram isn't better than a 3100

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It's not really worse

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but it's not better

little osprey
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at this price point we need to make compromises such as that

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unless we would like to go 3100 and a520

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really depends on @little osprey

stoic island
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or b550 if you stretch it a bit

little osprey
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question, why not the matrexx 50 ?

stoic island
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hm?

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why the matrexx 50

little osprey
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is the core 11 better for airflow ?

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ive seen the matrexx 50 in a lot of budget builds

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always assumed there would be a good reason for it

stoic island
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According to Naed it's good enough

grave coral
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@little osprey Thank you for the sound and helpful advice I'm still a little new to the pc building arena so thank you for the helpful tips!

little osprey
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not matrexx 50 my bad

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matrexx 30*

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@little osprey Thank you for the sound and helpful advice I'm still a little new to the pc building arena so thank you for the helpful tips!
@grave coral aight u gucci

stoic island
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both are decent (10100/3100)

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I just prefer Ryzen

fallen harbor
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@stoic island I'm prob going to increase the budget I set to 2k that way I van get new case and ram just so ik that it's not old and all new

lyric thistle
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I'm curious, what are the actual prices for A520 boards? Going off of PCPP, they're not much cheaper than B450s

stoic island
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@fallen harbor link me what you have again?

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@lyric thistle I mean they're ~60$

lyric thistle
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See? They're just 5 dollars cheaper than B450, I don't get it

stoic island
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they're supposed to be a side step from b450

fallen harbor
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only part i got that ill be using

stoic island
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lose some io

fallen harbor
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the others are going to be what ever is in the pcpp

stoic island
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and you get some future compatibility

fallen harbor
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and the pcpp you sent one sec

lyric thistle
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I suppose that makes sense

fallen harbor
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the pcpp you setn

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sent

stoic island
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right

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I'll add to it

fallen harbor
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ok

stoic island
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how much ram you want

fallen harbor
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perfer 32

little osprey
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do u need 32

fallen harbor
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i was thinking trident sticks

little osprey
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also @stoic island whats the legend role u got on ?