building-and-recc-chat

[gaunt vortex]

They've done well for me thus far.

[vocal hare]

Apparently has some crazy durability though

The mp34 I mean

[stoic island]

yea the listed TBW is crazy

[crisp trellis]

Im still in the process of building my gaming rig right now

[stoic island]

it's just below a MP510

[uncut pelican]

How will i know id im regular plus does it show as a role?

[vocal hare]

Like even the new Samsung ones have worse tbw

[gaunt vortex]

I also just bought an gigabyte pcie gen 4 m.2, it seems to bench a bit ahead of the sabrent and it was a good price so I figured wth.

[vocal hare]

Nice

I personally have no use for that speed but the tech is cool

[gaunt vortex]

we'll be interesting to use both for a bit and see how they do against eachother or if it's more or less a wash

[vocal hare]

Think mp34 is only like 3.5

Oh cool my VIP is back

[gaunt vortex]

god. my mail is running super late these last couple days... I am actually waiting on said gigabyte m.2 right now.

Along with my thermal paste lol

[vocal hare]

Tbh I'm mostly done with my build outside waiting for my 3080 step up

But I kinda wanna get an aio even if I really don't need it

[gaunt vortex]

My PSU is still weeks away annoyingly

[vocal hare]

Ninja 5 is actually silent even at load

My td revolution is working pretty great

[kind basin]

Hi. Does anyone have recommendation for GPU? budget is 450 or less

[vocal hare]

Quiet af

5700xt

Of the current cards that's your best option

Also this in USD or Canadian

[kind basin]

thats what i was leaning towards as well. How does it compare to Nvidia cards in the same price range

[gaunt vortex]

I bought a Fractal Design Celsius+ S36 for my AIO. More or less to match my case, but I guess it turns out after the fact to be extremely performant, so that was a happy accident.

[vocal hare]

The 5700xt is on par or ocassionally better than a 2070 super

@gaunt vortex I would get an Arctic but since they're aios are pretty new not sure on reliability over time

[edgy wagon]

or wait several months and save around 75 more for a 3070

[gaunt vortex]

Well, I also already have it installed in my case so a bit late to make changes now 😛

[edgy wagon]

most last gen gpus dont compare

[vocal hare]

Asetek AIOs are pretty well documented at this point

[stoic island]

Freezer ii seems really good so far

[vocal hare]

Well that's why I said of current options

[stoic island]

(GN has been using em for a few months now, on the reliability side)

[last rampart]

@fast warren you should be greatful bro, not everyone has a pc. I personally run on a laptop lol

[vocal hare]

@stoic island yeah it's great just need to see if it actually withstands the test of time

The enermax aio performed well before it's pretty rapid degradation

[fast warren]

ik but just sayin to make everyone here who probably does have a better pc feel good idc really

[vocal hare]

Huh?

[fast warren]

hes talkin about my post in #build-pics

[vocal hare]

I was in a laptop til like last month

A gaming laptop but still

[stoic island]

All I gotta say is

#build-pics message

[fast warren]

i mean a couple months ago i was on an inspiron 13 in touchscreen

[gaunt vortex]

wow

what is a box fan in mm?

[stoic island]

Yes

Box fan

[gaunt vortex]

I guess if it's a 20' then that's a 500mm? ish?

[fast warren]

what specs tho?

[stoic island]

Dunno, some box fan

@fast warren 8350u with iGPU

[fast warren]

ok

rn i got an i-3 7100 and 570 rx

[stoic island]

uhd620 sux

[fast warren]

gtg rn be back in a bit

[spring crater]

do you guys thiink my build is good for gaming

[fast warren]

what specs

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island , what would you do with 3k full system??

[deep skiff]

5700x+3090

[cursive magnet]

I wanna buy now, I currently have nothing

[little osprey]

Hey I've got a question for somebody

Do you think an i5 9400f could bottleneck an rx 5700xt?

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet like full setup including monitor?

And buy now is not gonna be fun

[cursive magnet]

All peripheral, headset, keyboard mouse

[stoic island]

One sec I think I have one around

[little osprey]

i5 10th gen
3070
16gb ram
water cooling
1tb ssd
8TB hardrive
corsair 850w power supply

thoughts?

On a pc i am going to build

[stoic island]

Hmm

This is a reference 2000$ build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8tMcT

Including monitor keeb headset mouse

[little osprey]

What currency?

[stoic island]

Usd

Build I made a while ago

[little osprey]

Thats more than the specs i just wrote

[little leaf]

@stoic island i would use diff mouse

[little osprey]

thats about 2609 AUD (USD 1,840)

[stoic island]

Eh, model o was OOS when I slapped it in

[cursive magnet]

Usd

[little osprey]

@little osprey I would hold off a bit longer and get a ryzen 5 5th gen

I dont like ryzen 🙂

Although

[fast warren]

y not

[little osprey]

How much are they?

I believe either 250 or 300 usd

[rapid hound]

Its 300 us for a 5600

[little osprey]

damn

I think ill stick with my i5

Yeah

Im currently gaming on a laptop with an 8th gen i7 1050 and 16gb ram

[little leaf]

Hrr

[little osprey]

I just realized it's almost double the price of your i5 lol

[little leaf]

5600x is better

And can be fit into the budget

[little osprey]

Yea

Unfortunately I'm one of those people who bought an Intel cpu right before zen 2 came out so right now I have an i5 9400f

But its still a great gaming cpu

[delicate bobcat]

Rip

[fast warren]

unfortunately im one of those people who bought nothing cause im broke

[delicate bobcat]

Same, until I sold my laptop

[rapid hound]

Damn

[fast warren]

got an i-3 7100 2 core

[rapid hound]

Im planning a ryzen 5600x build

Ive ordered all my parts

[delicate bobcat]

I'm doing a 3600, it's just too good

[rapid hound]

Just waiting for cpu

[little leaf]

@rapid hound thats not smart

Ordering parts separate from each other is generally a bad Idea

[rapid hound]

@rapid hound thats not smart
@little leaf why

Usually

[little leaf]

Parts could come doa

And you would have no wag of knowing

Not to mention you dont even know if you will get zen 3

[little osprey]

The same thing that happened to rtx 3000 will probably happen to zen 3

[little leaf]

Also if you ordered a mobo you might not have the newest bios for the zen 3 cpu

[rapid hound]

Well if i cant get zen 3 then i might just buy an 3600

But i have a b550 mobo

[little leaf]

Yes but you need a certain bios

Most likely to be on the board

But not guaranteed

[rapid hound]

Well it should be downloadable?

[little osprey]

You need a last gen cpu to update the bios

[little leaf]

Yes but you eould need to get a temp cpu unless you have bios flash bac

[rapid hound]

Oh ok

[gaunt vortex]

If I cant get a 5900 or above I will just buy a 3100 or 2600 to get the system running, then shift it to a budget build when the 5000s come back in stock

[little leaf]

But most likely to get a good bios for zen3

[rapid hound]

Ya cos i ordered yesterday

[gaunt vortex]

Have to love the fact any of 3 gens work on that platform

[rapid hound]

Yes

[gaunt vortex]

also, no you dont

on the bios front

It depends on the motherboard, some can be flashed without a CPU

[rapid hound]

Oh ok thank imma look onto that

[gaunt vortex]

Just make sure it's a board that supports that.

[rapid hound]

Ok

[little leaf]

@gaunt vortex I already said that lol

Yes but you eould need to get a temp cpu unless you have bios flash bac
@little leaf

[gaunt vortex]

Well I missed it, sorry 😛

It's called Q-Flash Plus on gigabyte boards, so I assume each vendor has their own branding.

[stoic island]

MSI Bios flashback

and something else for Asus

[fathom abyss]

hi everyone

what are your thoughts on the best x570 5000 series ready mobo?

[gaunt vortex]

I am not sure there is a hard "best"

kinda depends on the features you want or need

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wxfrrr what do you guys think for entry level mid tier gaming?

custom one i made for my younger brother

[fathom abyss]

how ab one with wifi 6 then

[little osprey]

kind of a budget build

[fathom abyss]

or actually, onboard wifi vs wifi card, thoughts? i dont rly know for this one

[stoic island]

same thing

onboard wifi just means it's a m.2 wifi chip that's under the io headsink bit

[fathom abyss]

huh

[stoic island]

so it's more model to model basis

[fathom abyss]

cool

so it wouldnt be any better to get a mobo with wifi than to get a mobo w/o wifi and get an extra card

i've just been ruling out non-wifi mobos rn so that helps open up my selection haha

[little osprey]

usually cheaper to get seperate card

[stoic island]

@little osprey not with B550m pro vdh wifi as an option >:D

[little osprey]

true

thats why i said usually

[stoic island]

heh

[cursive magnet]

Most WiFi cards will take PCIx lanes

[little osprey]

pciex1

i ran a usb wifi reciever for a while

got 100mbps off it which was my max wifi speed

[finite lark]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TwoBurrito/saved/#view=N6PDqs

Is this a good enough build?

[stoic island]

nah

what's overall budget

[finite lark]

like 900 without windows or peripherals

[stoic island]

how much including

[spiral zealot]

regardless of budget, don't pay microsoft for windows. there are alternatives that won't cost you $100+

[finite lark]

1200 at absolute maximum

[stoic island]

kewl

[fickle musk]

anyone here that still has an i3?

brokenness hits me hard

[spiral zealot]

i just built and flipped an i3 system a few weeks ago, but it was 6th gen

[little leaf]

I have a core 2 quad

[viral ore]

my router has an i3

[little leaf]

Shush

[viral ore]

[fickle musk]

b r u h

[little leaf]

My second pc is a 9900k and no gpu yet

[viral ore]

@austere condor y u mount the rad and tubes like that it look bad

[austere condor]

bUt U dIdNt OrIeNt tHe TuBeS tHe RiGhT wAy LiKe GaM3rSn3xUs SaId!!!!!!!!!

[viral ore]

but it look bad

[fickle musk]

and here i am with i3-4160,4 gb ram, generic psu and case :<

Imma build my pc soon!!!

[stoic island]

@austere condor tru

[spiral zealot]

tubes up/down is the new 'laces out, dan' for the younger generation

[fickle musk]

6 years of trash fps

[little leaf]

Does kinda look bad

[viral ore]

i prefer tubes up cuz it look better

[little leaf]

Buts thats just opinion

[finite lark]

Mr1111 you got any recommendations since my build wasn;t that good

[viral ore]

but u gotta rotate the cpu block and have the tubes come out the other side so they dont have to bend like that

[still roost]

𝕪𝕠𝕦𝕤𝕖𝕗𝕤𝕨𝕒𝕘♛#4770 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[spiral zealot]

just keep the pump below the top of the rad, route the tubes however it fits best and don't worry about it

[viral ore]

lol stop posting tube closeups demonmit

[balmy patio]

@woeful dagger stop

[stoic island]

@finite lark here
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pX32Vc

[fickle musk]

@woeful dagger stop bro

[stoic island]

plus a <10$ win10 key

@woeful dagger can ya stop

[little leaf]

@austere condor u selling that pc?

[austere condor]

can you not?

[spiral zealot]

just block him and ping a mod

don't feed the troll

[little leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-gif-8540509

Ban him

[balmy patio]

would i be better off using an aio or a chonky air cooler?

[stoic island]

for what

at what budget

[finite lark]

@stoic island thanks dog

[stoic island]

:)

[balmy patio]

my budget isn’t really set at this point, since idk if i’m gonna get a job cuz of covid, i’ll send the list i have so far

[stoic island]

My stance is air cooler is just better for reliability and still having good perf

[balmy patio]

so far, about 1500

[stoic island]

but say you have a 5950x and you want to OC or smth

I can totally justify like a Arctic Freezer ii 360mm

[spiral zealot]

@coarse coral can you deal with this clown please? sorry to ping

[stoic island]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmic-ban-ban-hammer-gif-14966695

[fickle musk]

aight he gon

[coarse coral]

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8M2F8J

thats the list i have so far

[stoic island]

meh

[spiral zealot]

thanks theo! ❤️

[stoic island]

I'd save some monies from that

[little leaf]

@balmy patio meh list could get 3080

[stoic island]

now this is more like what I would do, quick edits.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmRsXb

[little leaf]

Get rid of cooler

[stoic island]

easily can fit a 6800 in there now

[little leaf]

3080

[stoic island]

Move some stuff around, and you can get a 6800xt/3080

[balmy patio]

ok ill try

[little leaf]

Cooler not needed for 5600x

[jagged turtle]

what u guys think the best cpu would be with a msi geforce gtx 1650 SUPER ventus oc?

[ashen girder]

i3 9100f

[jagged turtle]

yes

[ashen girder]

Or r5 2600

[spiral zealot]

if you're on a budget, i'd say ryzen 3 3100 or a used r5 2600

[ashen girder]

9100f is 4 cores and 80
Dollars

[jagged turtle]

yeah

ive seen that one

[spiral zealot]

3100 is 4c/8t, and not that much more

maybe $100ish

[balmy patio]

ok i did the changes i needed to do to have a 6800xt, would it still perform well? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdwrrr @little leaf

[jagged turtle]

is super fast, and 4 cores dhould do me well

oh

maybe that

idk

[jagged turtle]

d o g g o

[spiral zealot]

and if you put the 3100 in a cheap B550 board, you're ryzen 5000 series ready for a future upgrade

[ashen girder]

I agree with chaun

[jagged turtle]

yes

[spiral zealot]

but again, it depends on budget

[spiral zealot]

3100 + b550 ds3h will probably run around $200 or so

[jagged turtle]

anyways, a b550 motherboard would be cheaper than most intel ones

[hasty ibex]

Doggos uncle

[jagged turtle]

nice

[stoic island]

@jagged turtle cheaper than Intel Z motherboards.

And non-Z mobos are just bad

[hasty ibex]

Why are you a legend and a rookie

@stoic island

[stoic island]

Because I'm a legendary rookie

Duh

[hasty ibex]

I agree

There

For you

[stoic island]

:)

Doggo

[hasty ibex]

Yes

Much

[stoic island]

[stoic island]

[proud basalt]

i just built my pc and its not displaying anything

any help?

[stoic island]

Debug LEDs?

Does it start up and the turn itself off, or nothing?

[proud basalt]

it starts up

but when i connect to monitor

it says no signal

[stoic island]

Did you plug it into the GPU

[proud basalt]

yes

[stoic island]

Any debug LEDs

[proud basalt]

nope

[sand sleet]

All the power connectors plugged in all the way?

[stoic island]

Why can't debug LEDs just be mainstream xd

[proud basalt]

yea already checked plug-ins like 5 times

[balmy patio]

any cool lights on the pc that might be worth noticing?

[proud basalt]

a green one and an orange one

btw i have a asus z390 prime motherboard

[dawn parcel]

so im going to be buying the Ryzen 5 5600x when it releases on thursday, but im trying to decide if I should buy a 3070 when i can get my hands on one or wait for the AMD RX 6800, even with the smart access memory it seems pretty similar in performance to the 3070

[balmy patio]

whats ur budget @dawn parcel , pretty sure i made a $1500 list using a 6800xt

and @proud basalt does it say anything on the motherboard that's next to those lights?

[dawn parcel]

uhh, idk i already have most of the PC picked out, let me link the pcpartpicker list

[west ruin]

@proud basalt try removing the graphics card and using on board graphics to start up

[stoic island]

wait

@proud basalt you sure that's not debug LEDs?

[proud basalt]

board graphics?

[stoic island]

is the green and orange light next to 24pin

no

literally LEDs on the board

[proud basalt]

sorry idk much abt pc

[stoic island]

that tells you what's wrong

[dawn parcel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMYcTJ

[stoic island]

it's marked with a comp next to it

[proud basalt]

yea orange and green light nect to 24pin

[stoic island]

example:

what does it say

next to the light that shines

[proud basalt]

none of those pop up

wait

[stoic island]

hm?

[proud basalt]

lemme chack again

[sullen spoke]

shiny light

[magic fractal]

If I wanted to build the best possible single pc streaming and gaming setup what would y'all think I should put in it?

[proud basalt]

liught next to DRAM

[dawn parcel]

also what specific model of motherboard is it, it will say somewhere on the motherboard, usually next to the cpu slot

[balmy patio]

i think i found sum on the mobo manual that might help

[proud basalt]

orange light next to name said DRAM

[balmy patio]

oh isnt that inproper ram placement

[proud basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic island]

@magic fractal If you're crazy, 5000$, if you're rich asf, 3000$, if you're rich, 2000$, if you're a normal human, prob around 1500$.

@proud basalt reseat the ram

make sure it's in slots 2 and 4

[west ruin]

push down on the ram lightly

[proud basalt]

which ones are 2 and 4

[sullen spoke]

the second and 4th slot from the cpu

[stoic island]

1 | 2 | 3 | 4

[proud basalt]

ok

[balmy patio]

1
2
3
4

[stoic island]

from the CPU

[proud basalt]

thats the ones they are in

[stoic island]

reseat them

aka. pull em out and back in.

[balmy patio]

are they seated all the way?

^^

[proud basalt]

okay ill reseat them

[polar anvil]

600 pc build only amazon

[stoic island]

no

[night storm]

Lol

[west ruin]

so im going to be buying the Ryzen 5 5600x when it releases on thursday, but im trying to decide if I should buy a 3070 when i can get my hands on one or wait for the AMD RX 6800, even with the smart access memory it seems pretty similar in performance to the 3070
@dawn parcel

[balmy patio]

@polar anvil would you mind telling us why exclusively amazon?

[west ruin]

i always match amd with amd

[dawn parcel]

i guess but the 3070 is $80 cheaper and has very similar performance to the 6800

and other than the Smart Access Memory there isnt really any reason to match AMD to AMD

[balmy patio]

oh and @dawn parcel , this was a list i made earlier with help from this chat https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kdwrrr

[proud basalt]

ok

so

i reseated

[flat pendant]

I do like the convenience of Nvidia control panel aswell as GeForce experience/shadow play but if thats not an interest

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dawn parcel]

ive already bought the case and motherboard

[proud basalt]

green lightm on boot

[stoic island]

Shadowplay is fun

[proud basalt]

white light on vga

and no more orange light on dram

[stoic island]

wait for like 30 sec

[proud basalt]

ok

[stoic island]

see what it does

[west ruin]

get the 3070 if you are worried about cost and the 6800 if you are more concerned about matching ecosystems

[proud basalt]

ok

[dawn parcel]

im nervous to flash my motherboard lmao, i dont have a 3000 series cpu to update the bios so I'll be using Q-

Q-flash plus*

[stoic island]

I mean

3080 :D

[gaunt vortex]

That's what it's there for...

[stoic island]

yea

[sullen spoke]

ehh ecosystem with cpu and gpu don't really matter at all

[dawn parcel]

i know, i just see a lot of people saying their motherboard wont flash properly

[proud basalt]

so its still saying no display

is it bc im using hdmi

i dont have a vga cable

[gaunt vortex]

That kind of things feels like it's user-error 8/10 times

[proud basalt]

and my monitor doesnt have a display port

[dawn parcel]

do you have it plugged into the motherboard or the graphics card

[proud basalt]

graphics card

[dawn parcel]

plug into the motherboard real quick to see if its working at all

[proud basalt]

also when i first started up pc a cpu light flashed red twice and then stopped flashing

[balmy patio]

take it out (by pulling on the pci-e tab its corresponding to) and place it back in

[proud basalt]

what?

[dawn parcel]

the gpu

[proud basalt]

also i tried to plug into motherboard and it still dindt workl

[stoic island]

I'm back

[west ruin]

the lights will flash during boot

[dawn parcel]

cpu light is always red for yours

[stoic island]

@dawn parcel plugging into mobo only works with iGPU

[dawn parcel]

ah

[proud basalt]

no it just flashed twice then stopped

[stoic island]

@proud basalt so what does the light stay on after you wait a min?

[stoic island]

what color

[proud basalt]

boot is green

vga is white

[stoic island]

What is the last color to flash

[proud basalt]

and dram and cpu arent flashing

[little osprey]

is 1070 8gb oc good with i5-7400?

or decent atleast

[balmy patio]

ok the led's only flash when there is a problem with the corresponding component

[proud basalt]

okay

[stoic island]

@balmy patio not always true

With MSI debug LEDs, they cycle through on boot.

[proud basalt]

so whats boot mean

[little osprey]

do yall think the b450 motherboards will drop in price when the new zen 3 comes out?

[proud basalt]

and what vga mean

[stoic island]

@proud basalt boot device, aka. your SSD/HDD

[proud basalt]

im on asus

[stoic island]

VGA is means GPU

[supple river]

Hey i got a question

[stoic island]

mhm, I'm saying it's normal for them to cycle through the colors on boot

that's why I was asking which color flashes last

[balmy patio]

ohhhh

[supple river]

Would the 3070 and ryzen 7 5800x run properly on a b450 mobo

[dawn parcel]

@little osprey maybe people selling them used but i doubt they will drop in price from official retailers

[proud basalt]

the cpu flashed red last

so theres somethiunng wrong with my gpu?>

[stoic island]

@proud basalt And have you made sure the monitor works?

[proud basalt]

yes

using it on laptop rn

[little osprey]

ah ok cause i only got a b350 motherboard with a ryzen 7 2700x

[stoic island]

CPU flashed last, then check EPS 8 pin again.

[dawn parcel]

@supple river you will have to wait until january for 400 series motherboards to get ryzen 5000 support

[balmy patio]

@supple river you wouldnt get the most out of em

[proud basalt]

what

[stoic island]

Make sure you plugged into the right side 8 pin.

[proud basalt]

whats that

[stoic island]

8 pin CPU power

[proud basalt]

ok

[stoic island]

top left of the motherboard

[proud basalt]

right side?

[supple river]

Whats the best mobo for 3070 and ryzen 5000 series then?

[sand sleet]

X570

[dawn parcel]

i have a 550 for mine

i saw that 570 have quite a bit of thermal problems

[supple river]

So the msi mpg b550 carbon would be good?

[proud basalt]

ok i unplugged and polug back in cpu cable

still no workl

[stoic island]

@supple river it really depends on what you need

[dawn parcel]

depends, watch a few review videos on the 550 motherboards and decide which way you are wanting to go

[stoic island]

a good 300$ motherboard rarely offers more features to the average consumer than a decent 150$ motherboard

@proud basalt Welp, let's do reset cmos then.

[supple river]

I ordered the 3070 i got 750 w 32gb 3600mhz ram and idk what mobo to get

[proud basalt]

how i do that

[stoic island]

The guide for battery method is universal, don't mind it being intel
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[supple river]

And im looking to get the ryzen 7 5800x

[dawn parcel]

mine is mini-itx so i have a Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX

[proud basalt]

ok ill watch that

[stoic island]

it's a webpage

I like reading over watching :P

[dawn parcel]

easier to follow along with reading, you dont have to keep scrubbing through the video

[proud basalt]

they said two ways

battery and like jumper cable

whats easier

[dawn parcel]

battery

is what Mr1111 said

[proud basalt]

okay\

[stoic island]

@supple river so, for motherboard, what storage do you think you'll be getting

are you planning on any OCing, and how do you plan on connecting to the internet?

[supple river]

Like ssd?

[stoic island]

mhm.

[supple river]

I got a m.2 ssd alr 1 samsung evi 2tb

[sand sleet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nVRsXb this is my new build. The 3080 is just a place holder on the list as I'm not sure what gpu I want still.

[stoic island]

So, do you already own a Samsung 970 evo 2tb?

[supple river]

Yes

[stoic island]

that's what I think you mean to say

[supple river]

Its in its box right now

[gloomy bay]

hi i was bored

[stoic island]

@sand sleet seems like you like parametric selections, I think you'll love this one
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/ry3RvK

Gotcha

@supple river anything else you're planning for?

(storage wise)

[supple river]

For ram i got trident z 32gb 3600mhz

But in tryna buy another 32gbs

[sand sleet]

@stoic island parametric?

[supple river]

And i might buy another m.2 and a backup ssd

[dawn parcel]

ram is memory

[stoic island]

alright, remember to buy 2x16gb for ram, and that's a fairly standard setup then.

[dawn parcel]

not storage

[supple river]

Im new with pc sorry abt that haha

First build

[stoic island]

that's fine, we'll help ya through

[dawn parcel]

no its fine, i got confused with them too lol

[stoic island]

Now, how do you plan on connecting to the internet, Ethernet or wifi?

[supple river]

Wifi

So i need a mobo w wifi

And that supports 3600mhz

[stoic island]

Alright, also, do you already have everything in this yet?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

it's quite a good utility for sharing builds and editing

[proud basalt]

ok im back

[stoic island]

and checking compatibility and pricing

[proud basalt]

i found battery

[supple river]

Yes

[proud basalt]

how do i take it out

[supple river]

Lemme send

[proud basalt]

cause my hands too big

wont fit

[stoic island]

might need to take gpu out

[proud basalt]

can i use screwqdriver to wedge out

i did

[dawn parcel]

no

[sand sleet]

@stoic island oh the psu I forgot to add it to the list but funny I did already intend for that model too

[supple river]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WMqykX

This is mine so far

[stoic island]

it's a good parametric selection I send you anyways, worth taking a look.

[supple river]

I havnt got the mobo yet

[stoic island]

In Australia?

[supple river]

Yeh

[stoic island]

Alright, au.pcpartpicker.com/list we go then

anyways

wait, you already own a tomahawk max and a 3800xt?

[wintry gust]

Sorry @foggy hazel and @stoic island i had to go to work i'm back now

[supple river]

I have but in going to swap the b450

[deep skiff]

naed is sleep

[stoic island]

alright

[wintry gust]

ohhhhh

[stoic island]

@deep skiff sometimes he's asleep at this time

[supple river]

Im gonna also get a ryzen 5000 srries instead of zen2

[stoic island]

gotcha

[deep skiff]

no he said it in headphone channel

[stoic island]

you said you wanted 5800x right?

[supple river]

Yeh

[dawn parcel]

btw ryzen 5000 cpus are o pcpartpicker now

on*

[wintry gust]

so ryzen is that much better than an i9 10.9k?

[supple river]

Its cheaper i guess

[stoic island]

I'm going to do a simple USD to AUD MSRP conversion for CPU pricing, might be wrong, but should be in the ballpark.

[dawn parcel]

lot of people are going to be building AMD systems with these new cpus coming out

[stoic island]

this is a sad sight to see :(

none in stock

oh well

Ninja 5 time

[supple river]

Also for aio cooler i might go for a lian li galahaf

Galahad

360

[stoic island]

eek

[supple river]

No?

[stoic island]

well, what about an EK-AIO maybe

it'll be less ridiculous in terms of pricing

anyways, my ~~not-so-~~quick thoughts on CPU+Cooler+Mobo choice @supple river
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GwRsXb

[supple river]

Ok

Also i got 6 lian li bora lite fans with my pc case for free

[stoic island]

that's fun

[supple river]

If i get eek eek could i sink there fans and the lian li fans together

Becasue its gonna be 9 fans alltogether

[dawn parcel]

might have to get a fan controller

[supple river]

Whats the best fan contrler

I need one that would support 9 fans

[dawn parcel]

not sure, ive never had to use one

[stoic island]

well, you'd need rgb controller too

[dawn parcel]

mhm

[stoic island]

I know a great controller for fans, but rgb wise, Coolermaster has some iirc

[dawn parcel]

dont AIOs have plugins for the fans on them

[wintry gust]

https://www.newegg.com/pink-darkflash-dlm22-micro-atx-mini-itx/p/2AM-008X-00016 = case that works for a 2080 ti?

[stoic island]

depends on the aio

[gaunt vortex]

Some

[stoic island]

some do some don't

[supple river]

Because idk how to setup fans

[stoic island]

wonder of the ek one does, lemme see

[sullen spoke]

pink

[wintry gust]

yesss 🙂

[dawn parcel]

i know the kraken x53 doesnt, thats why i went with the x52

[red sage]

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 or Kraken X53

[little osprey]

I eat rgb

[uncut pelican]

Yummy

[sullen spoke]

if the gpu fits within this @wintry gust https://i.imgur.com/u3a3fjM.png

[gaunt vortex]

I have no idea who darkflash are, but I mean, a 2080ti is only 267 mm

[sullen spoke]

i cannot say i know anything about the airflow of that case tho

[stoic island]

looks like it is

[wintry gust]

barely

my card is 227mm

327

[twilit idol]

Lmao my dads friend asked to build him a pc that “can handle Rosetta Stone”

[supple river]

If i got 9 lian li uni 120 fans would they fit on any aio cooler?

[sullen spoke]

[wintry gust]

rofl mystifying lol

[twilit idol]

Oh he’s getting a deal

[supple river]

Because there the cableless rgb fans

[twilit idol]

20 dollar cpu

[stoic island]

okay it takes a single cable

for the ek-aio

[supple river]

Hmm

[stoic island]

wait

lemme check again

that might just be pump

[supple river]

I was thinking about getting lian li uni fans because there cableless

[stoic island]

it comes with a splitter

eh

your choice really

I just know ek-aio works well

I personally don't care about looks

[supple river]

Im gonna get eek aio but im gonna swap the fans then

To this

[stoic island]

that works

[supple river]

3 fans that all are on one cable

[dawn parcel]

yeh, im switching my x52 fans to some noctua fans

[red sage]

kraken x53 or corsair h100i

[stoic island]

@red sage arctic freezer ii

nf-a12x25 :D

[strong radish]

Will the 6800 get better ray tracing than 2080 ti without SAM

[stoic island]

bad

I edit it

when building

[strong radish]

Ahaha he has a intel cooler on a amd processor nice

[dawn parcel]

you might need a better PSU

[strong radish]

Yeah

[stoic island]

w3 sucks

[strong radish]

You don’t need a cooler it comes with one

[stoic island]

it's a "blowing up" kind of sucks

[strong radish]

Wel don’t get a 212

That’s for intel

[stoic island]

it's not for just intel

but don't get 212 either way

and btw

[strong radish]

I thought it was

[dawn parcel]

def gonna need at least a 550 w power supply

[stoic island]

overclocking doesn't give you much at all

my problem isn't with PSU wattage

my issue is that W3 sucks

really badly

[fleet pagoda]

U dont need to buy a cou cooler w amd

Stock one is fine

[stoic island]

the PSU

the model is W3

[gray stone]

Doesn't the Prism model have RGB?

[strong radish]

What’s point of getting 2060 I don’t get it

Does it have good frames on ray tracing

I thought it only gets 40 to 60

Not released I don’t think

Get a 6800 if u can lol

Not yet

[stoic island]

done :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2NLrrr

this is just edits

on what you already had

[fleet pagoda]

Doesnt the p400a come w the fans?

[gray stone]

I think it'll be much later, like maybe a December 2020 or January 2021 release if I were to guess

[stoic island]

fuma 2 is way overkill for 3600 imo

but oh well

there was room in the budget

[strong radish]

Hey I have a 212 and my cpu runs at 30-40 idle

[gray stone]

Like with how the 3000 series got cleaned up, I wouldn't be surprised if they just shadow drop the 3060

[stoic island]

@strong radish again, idle doesn't mean crap

[hasty ibex]

Guess my specs and I'll send you a rtx 3090

[stoic island]

@delicate zinc smh you think I reccomend any SSDs that doesn't have dram?

[strong radish]

Doesn’t get above 70 while gaming?

[stoic island]

because hell yea every SSD I recommend has dram...

[lyric thistle]

Mr1 likes DRAM

well

[stoic island]

@strong radish you can't really compare temps unless you get to steady state under like P95

[strong radish]

Yeah I got the ssd he recommended to me

[lyric thistle]

everyone should like DRAM

[stoic island]

mhm

[fleet pagoda]

Guess my specs and I'll send you a rtx 3090
@hasty ibex 2060 super intel i5 9600k

Idk lmaoo

[hasty ibex]

Nope

[stoic island]

no

you can't

[gray stone]

Hmm... Looks like it's an AMD Ryzen 5 model, with a 2070 super

[stoic island]

breh

[hasty ibex]

Bruh

[fleet pagoda]

Bruh

[stoic island]

then td500 mesh

[strong radish]

Get a td500

[vital warren]

you will hate yourself in a few years if u get a lot of rgb

[stoic island]

and no fuma 2

[strong radish]

Td500 is so good

[hasty ibex]

I have a ryzen cooler on

[fleet pagoda]

U have to make sacrifices for good performance @delicate zinc

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tjj4dD

[strong radish]

Then get it

[fleet pagoda]

Meaning less rgb

[stoic island]

no

[hasty ibex]

Nope

[stoic island]

I don't like P400a for not supporting big boi coolers

[fleet pagoda]

Hm

[sullen spoke]

smol boi

[stoic island]

mhm

[strong radish]

Will a 2060 be good enough for Minecraft and halo infinite rt

[stoic island]

and p400a only has 155mm cpu cooler clearance

[hasty ibex]

Yes

[strong radish]

That’s my question.

[stoic island]

most good CPU coolers are 160mm/165mm

[hasty ibex]

Yes

[stoic island]

@delicate zinc why

3600 has stock cooler

[fleet pagoda]

I was told to get a p400a

[stoic island]

smh

[strong radish]

How

[hasty ibex]

Ik

[gray stone]

I'd guess a Ryzen 5 2600 or 3600, with what looks like a B450 motherboard and an ROG Nvidia 2000 series card, guessing a 2070 Super

[hasty ibex]

I love it

[stoic island]

no

rgb bad

[hasty ibex]

@gray stone 2060

3600

[gray stone]

oof, alrighty

[dawn parcel]

10 years?

uhh

[stoic island]

@strong radish well, if it's got DLSS 2.0, 2060 should be good enough for 1080p

w Rtx

[strong radish]

Nice

[fleet pagoda]

240hz 1440p

[strong radish]

I don’t think it will get above 60 for newer rt games tho cuz it only gets 40 on minecrFt

[stoic island]

that's why I say DLSS

because DLSS is really good at making fps to brrt

[gray stone]

I've been living with a Dell Inspiron laptop, used to run games fairly well, though they were quite old by this point

[strong radish]

Wait so does Minecraft ray tracing use dlss yet

[fleet pagoda]

If i only have a 144hz monitor is it even worth getting the build i want i will get a 240hz im the future some time tho

[lyric thistle]

yes

[gray stone]

With an Intel i3 5005-u, that's why I've had contemplation of doing a fundraising thing to build my own desktop lol

[strong radish]

So if it uses dlss why it only get 40

[lyric thistle]

SEUS PTGI uses a dlss analogue

[fleet pagoda]

240 1440p

Not just a 240

To bad

😌

[tired orbit]

mmm

🙂

[gray stone]

I don't care that much about refresh rates, though if I had more money, I would definitely get a 120hz 1440p display, maybe two of them to work in tandem with one another

[fleet pagoda]

144hz as a second w a 240hz 1440p as my main would be a nice flex

[strong radish]

Monitors overpriced

[fleet pagoda]

Rbg is use less

[strong radish]

Only thing rgb in my PC is my case

Put a light strip and your god

Good

[fleet pagoda]

How about it run good over it look good

[sturdy root]

if you planning to keep a buil;d for 10 years but cheap you might wanna invest more into a proper pc

[fleet pagoda]

Whats ur budget @delicate zinc

[sturdy root]

@delicate zinc

I build pc's as a side hobby I can help you

[fleet pagoda]

It wont last 10 years

[sturdy root]

I say 5 years tops

[stoic island]

welp, I'm leaving this list here now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tjj4dD

[sturdy root]

thats an ok list

[fleet pagoda]

Bruh

[sturdy root]

similar to what im running

[fleet pagoda]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DzRp8J

What im going for

[strong radish]

Yo that’s the same ssd I have except it’s 500

[sturdy root]

there is no price on that gpu

not sup 1k

sub*

[fleet pagoda]

Yeah

Its sold out

[strong radish]

How you get 3070

[sturdy root]

ofc

[fleet pagoda]

And intel isnt bar

Bad

[sturdy root]

thats because of scalping

[strong radish]

Intel good

[gray stone]

sell your soul to the eBay Scalpers

[stoic island]

@sturdy root they never said it was sub 1k

[sturdy root]

plus amd is better ptp

[stoic island]

that's just what they're getting

[sturdy root]

Sub wants a build sun 1k

[vital warren]

heres my godly build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CtgsXb

[fleet pagoda]

Pog 3k build

[stoic island]

lol

[sturdy root]

yeah no

[still roost]

Dr Johnny Sins#8894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[strong radish]

1060 didn’t cost 500

[vital warren]

well duh

[fleet pagoda]

500?

1060?

[stoic island]

lol

[vital warren]

amazons prices not mine

[stoic island]

it's a joke

[fleet pagoda]

https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/pd/8159798?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Robeytech&AFFID=3643405&AFFNAME=Robeytech&ACRID=1&ASUBID=robeytechnnow100220&ASID=&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=3643405&ranSiteID=sgz9NKC24Ms-ZcCT0eI6zA2WTan8f925aQ

[gray stone]

Isn't $500 like a price for a 2060 GPU?

[vital warren]

300

[fleet pagoda]

That cooler is sexy

[strong radish]

Should I get 6800 and be poor or just get a 2060

[vital warren]

500 is a 3070

[stoic island]

lol

@gray stone nah, 300$ is 2060

[sturdy root]

Imma say stay away from the gigabyte 2060

[fleet pagoda]

Im not buying that 3k build i jus sent im contemplating buying the nzxt cooler tho

[sturdy root]

Known for fan issues

and sadly i have to deal with it

[fleet pagoda]

Bc it looks sexy

[stoic island]

Hm?

Which gigabyte 2060 has fan issues..?

[sturdy root]

windforce oc

[stoic island]

With?

What kind of fan issues?

[sturdy root]

60-70 rpm noise issue

60-70%

[stoic island]

that's not an issue...

that's just being a bit loud

[sturdy root]

the fans rattle, not screwed on right out of the box

[strong radish]

Dude if they made like a million 3070 they would be rich pls

[stoic island]

Like MSI Ventus 2060 actually has an issue with overheating due to the thin heatsink

[sturdy root]

not like just fans being fans, its rattling

[fleet pagoda]

I like how the newegg i7 9700k is 300 and the micro center is 200

[sturdy root]

because microcenter is a great store

free speach

[fleet pagoda]

But i cant order it bc micro center is 7 hours away from me and it says in store only

[sturdy root]

speech*

god i cant type

[stoic island]

Also, the noise doesn't seem that bad to me, Tom's hardware testing:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-rtx-super-2060-windforce-gaming-oc/4

[fleet pagoda]

Am gonna cry

[strong radish]

Micro center is 4 hours away for me

[stoic island]

unless you mean the dual fan version?

[fleet pagoda]

Its 7 for me

[sturdy root]

the 2 fan model

unless you mean the dual fan version?
@stoic island yes

[stoic island]

welp

lemme see if they've got a review on it then

[strong radish]

Micro center needs to make more stores

[fleet pagoda]

Fr

[sturdy root]

and mine has coil wine

2nd card I went through because of these issues

there is a microcenter in cali

[strong radish]

I live in rural Georgia so there’s nothing out here

Lol

[sturdy root]

in tustin

cali

well there is one

im not in california but i know the locations

[strong radish]

Lie

[gray stone]

There is none in Montana

[sturdy root]

they choose the most ghetto locations by me

[strong radish]

They only have 2 micro center here and there only by Atlanta

[fleet pagoda]

Theres 4 micro centers in my state

And they are all over 6 hours away

[sturdy root]

there is only 1 in my state

and 2 in the following state

[fleet pagoda]

F

[stoic island]

whe fun

nothing on the windforce

oh well

[strong radish]

How they making money they got like 2 stores

[sturdy root]

yeah its a cheapo version

they have high traffic of people in stores

because its reputable

and they pricematch in person

[strong radish]

Jayz 2 centz be there a lot

[sturdy root]

Yeah he goes to the one by me

[strong radish]

Nice

[fleet pagoda]

I even contacted there support for micro center to see if what i wanted could br shipped but no

[gray stone]

I would love to send a letter to them and try to have them move into Montana through Great Falls or (more likely) Billings

[fleet pagoda]

Be

[strong radish]

Btw I’m big fan mr sins

[sturdy root]

If you want something shipped i literally live near one

like 5 minutes away close

[fleet pagoda]

U would ship it to me?

[sturdy root]

If you really need something I could ship it

if you cover costs

[fleet pagoda]

Yh

[strong radish]

Middle man scam

[fleet pagoda]

Perhaps

[sturdy root]

id literally ft shipping and packing it

[queen totem]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tYD4dD is this good

[stoic island]

no

That is a year out of date.

[sturdy root]

I do this for my friends out of state

[queen totem]

ok

[fleet pagoda]

No

[stoic island]

and throw the MS30 out please

do it for your own good

[still roost]

Dr Johnny Sins#8894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

and the vulcan ram

I have both

throw them out

[strong radish]

Will a 2060 really work for newer ray tracing games

[stoic island]

@queen totem didn't I just give you a good 1000$ list smh

[queen totem]

ya but my budget got worse

:/

[stoic island]

@strong radish work, yes, work well, not really

[polar kite]

bump up your storage to 1tb if you wanna game on the ssd

[stoic island]

well it would depend

[strong radish]

I don’t get what’s the point of buying if it not 60+ FPS

[stoic island]

because it runs 100+fps without rtx

:P

[fleet pagoda]

700 fps on mine craft

[sturdy root]

970 evo is better

[strong radish]

I just want to play Minecraft and halo infinite ray tracing at high FPS!!

[fleet pagoda]

Yh 970 evo

[sturdy root]

I just want to play Minecraft and halo infinite ray tracing at high FPS!!
@strong radish might not want to get a 2060 if you wanna do both

[stoic island]

MP34 for pricing

until 970evo can price match mp34

mp34 :P

[sullen spoke]

is sn750 good price still?

[stoic island]

nah

[strong radish]

Will the 6800 get good FPS without SAM

[sullen spoke]

dang

[stoic island]

went to like 138 or smth

[sullen spoke]

than yup mp34 gang lol

[polar kite]

whats a good case and fan for the ryzen 3600 on a B450MDS3H motherboard?

[sturdy root]

would not get that mobo

[stoic island]

I'd rather get a B550m pro4 at 95$

[sturdy root]

^

[stoic island]

B450 isn't a great idea nowadays

[sturdy root]

unless you had a system with it already

invest in a b550

better base upgrade

[strong radish]

Well the 6800 get around 2080 ti ray tracing performance without SAM

[sturdy root]

pcie gen 4 to

[polar kite]

i already have a system with the B450

[sturdy root]

and dont buy the 6800 without getting peer reviews first

[polar kite]

its 2 years old but need to dump the case and fan

[sturdy root]

because they can just give weird numbers

[strong radish]

Ok

[sturdy root]

like nvidia did with the 3090/3080 with gaming performance

[strong radish]

Then how am I gonna get my hands on one

[sturdy root]

skewed numbers

[fleet pagoda]

How can i make my build a little cheaper

[strong radish]

Gonna have to wait an extra year haha

[sturdy root]

buy second hand hardware

[stoic island]

@strong radish also remember AMD and Nvidia will be using different tech

different games might only support one

[sturdy root]

go on craigslist or letgo

[stoic island]

@delicate zinc no

[sturdy root]

@sturdy root is prefomance worth the extra price
@delicate zinc it is worth it

[stoic island]

@sturdy root excuse me?

[sturdy root]

i got a 1 tb 860 evo in mine

[stoic island]

in what way does 3500/2500 970evo benefit someone more than a 3000/2700 mp34?

[strong radish]

So should I just wait to January to buy a gpu then

Till

[sturdy root]

Well whatever is recommended and whats in your budget

both are good

[polar kite]

that would be better

So should I just wait to January to buy a gpu then
@strong radish

[stoic island]

Well why are you recommending the 970evo over the mp34 right now? I'm curious.

[strong radish]

I guess

[sturdy root]

im just saying over personal experience

[strong radish]

Guess no Christmas for me

[stoic island]

If you want to pay the samsung tax for a name

[polar kite]

nov 17 they release the 3060 too

[stoic island]

be my guest

Performance wise, it's not worth it

[strong radish]

Really

[sturdy root]

It was opinionated, mostly not factual. I have one and it has changed my pc for the better

[polar kite]

plus AMD will release their equivalent

[strong radish]

They released or announce??

[polar kite]

They will release it last i checked

[stoic island]

uh wait what

[strong radish]

Did they announce specs

[stoic island]

nov 17 for RTX 3060?

you sure?

[polar kite]

it could be released - sorry

not confirmed

[sturdy root]

id spring in for the 3070

[stoic island]

Yea I saw leaks on nov 17 3060 announcement, but no real info

[polar kite]

or it could be Dec 2nd

[sturdy root]

it will release most likely before christmas

[polar kite]

yup, those are the rumors i last saw

[sturdy root]

to hit q4 goals

[strong radish]

Damn

Is it gonna have 2070 performance

[polar kite]

and plus amd will release all of their stuff, and once people get their hands on them and benchmark it

[strong radish]

How lower could you go

[sturdy root]

its going to have 2080 performance

at more than half the price

[polar kite]

lol

[strong radish]

Wow

[sturdy root]

better rt cores

for the 3070 is what im talking about

3060, not confirmed yet

[polar kite]

3060 should be around 2070 based on the mathematical progression

[sturdy root]

but im guessing 399 or 450 for the 3060

[strong radish]

I’m just gonna be waiting this whole year for a gpu I’m guessing haha

[polar kite]

but yeah no one is sure yet

[sturdy root]

im chilling with my broken rattling a s s 2060

[strong radish]

I have a 1050 ti right now not to bad

[copper summit]

any recommendation on a 450$ build with no psu(already have one)

[polar kite]

1060 for me 😄

[sturdy root]

I have a 1050 ti right now not to bad
@strong radish yikes

[strong radish]

It’s pretty good for rocket league

[sturdy root]

any recommendation on a 450$ build with no psu(already have one)
@copper summit thats a tight budget

[stoic island]

it's a fun budget >:D

[copper summit]

yeah i know

[stoic island]

lets see if I can squeeze a 3100+1650s build that low

[sturdy root]

unless you find local used prices

[polar kite]

i think LTT did a 500$ USD AMD build

[sturdy root]

I mean you could, but you gotta cheap out somewhere

[polar kite]

you might wanna check if that works for you

[copper summit]

oh yeah

[stoic island]

it's called cheap out everywhere >:D

[copper summit]

minus 50$ for the psu

[sturdy root]

let me try to make something

[polar kite]

yeah

[stoic island]

I'm still going to make something

[polar kite]

Dr. Johnny might give you a better build than LTT though