ok
#building-and-recc-chat
queen totem
olive kraken
But I would suggest to try and get that card for like 299 ish if you can find it
queen totem
ok
olive kraken
330 for a 2060 when 3070 is 500 hurts to watch
olive kraken
You will probably have to change your parts list
According to Newegg and other platform's deals
olive kraken
And don't expect a huge reduction
queen totem
ok
queen totem
ok
olive kraken
but doable if a retailer is very nice with something like CPU motherboard combo or something
queen totem
but overall if i take out the 32 gb and put 16 is this a good build?
queen totem
ok ya
olive kraken
I think rightnow Warzone uses like 11 or something
and that's on max settings while recording
queen totem
ok thx
olive kraken
To put in on perspective
queen totem
also the 2060 gomes with the nividia expeirience right
stoic island
3600c16 of good ram
olive kraken
@stoic island Do you think that ssd is better than a samsung evo?
stoic island
mp34 bc there was a bit of extra budget
olive kraken
Its sata but
stoic island
...
which evo
there's like 50
860 evo
970 evo
I think there's a 960 evo
prob a 760 evo too
olive kraken
860
stoic island
Yes
a lot better
SN750 is straight up better than 970 evo
oh yea
sn750 still good price
I slap that in
Revision 2:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYwMcT
queen totem
is the mobo i picked good?
stoic island
pro vdh wifi is decent
olive kraken
barebones but not horrible
queen totem
ok thx
foggy hazel
dont worry @stoic island, we are going to get a LOT of those in the coming times
foggy hazel
questions like that one
olive kraken
yah
stoic island
oh fun
olive kraken
copy paste links
foggy hazel
yes "fun"
stoic island
Naed, you ready for me to make 1500, 2000, 2500, and 3000 pre-made lists? :D
just spam em
olive kraken
congrats on legend btw
foggy hazel
have at it
clear viper
have a question
did a new build with a asus tuf gaming board, and geforce gtx graphics card, corsair cooling
everything is seated correctly, when i plug in power the mobo lights up, when i press the power button it chirps once like a weak chirp but nothing turns on;
stoic island
Can you give a part list of everything?
use this if you can
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
clear viper
stoic island
@clear viper can you do the whole list? like with everything together like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2NDrVc
tired orbit
its around $1250
uncut pelican
@tired orbit i think mobo and case could be better imo
stoic island
..?
stoic island
You should be able to just... tell from what boxes you have ..?
vital warren
you don't need a $200 mobo for that build murmur
tired orbit
mk what do you reccomend
vital warren
and get 3600 cl16 ram
tired orbit
recommend
uncut pelican
@tired orbit thr mobo could be cheaper
tired orbit
alright which one?
uncut pelican
Maybe an msi b550 board lemme look
vital warren
asrock b550 phantom gaming 4
vital warren
this should work
idk about case
can switch it to whatever
around $100
td500 mesh, meshify c, a lot of options from phanteks, etc
corsair 4000d airflow
uncut pelican
@tired orbit https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2mpdmk
clear viper
stoic island
copy this link @clear viper
tired orbit
so like that?
clear viper
vital warren
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sHZn7X @tired orbit
stoic island
uh, what CPU and storage?
uncut pelican
H510 isn't good fil
@stoic island im still learning thanks for telling
vital warren
if you really want a mobo with rgb just switch the one out with the msi one
clear viper
not sure on the cpu
tired orbit
you recommend that motherboard @vital warren
tired orbit
hmm
stoic island
@clear viper can't you check what box you have
clear viper
no disrespect but just curious what the box has to do with the computer not starting up?
stoic island
I'm trying to figure out everything you have to check compatibility to start off.
clear viper
ok
stoic island
Because it's worthless to troubleshoot something that isn't supposed to be working.
tired orbit
alright cool
clear viper
nzxt
stoic island
I mean the box for the CPU lol
signal mauve
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Q7cqp how pog is this build
clear viper
lemme see if i can find one in that builder
next kestrel
nzxt cpu 🦀
tired orbit
clear viper
no box for the cpu
uncut pelican
Wait @stoic island why is h150i not a good case
next kestrel
bad airflow
versed rock
H510i? It's just a crap case.
stoic island
excuse me?
clear viper
someone brought me there pc to see why it wasnt turning on
versed rock
Poor Airflow.
stoic island
oh
stoic island
Can you ask them for everything they had?
clear viper
i did no response so far....
uncut pelican
Okok thanks guys
stoic island
Oh well
next kestrel
also you are heavily overpaying for that psu
tired orbit
should i really settle for a 3070, since its not in stock, or should i just get like a 2060
?
stoic island
can't do anything except try to troubleshoot I guess.
foggy hazel
@clear viper long story short: we cannot read your mind or see what you see. hence why you get asked for details :)
next kestrel
well it is 2080ti levels of performance
clear viper
naed....well dang it lol
next kestrel
so if you want to settle for a 2060 go ahead
stoic island
3070 is a 2080ti in performance
tired orbit
@next kestrel i bought it for my own pc, the one im showing is for a friend, mine was $140
stoic island
and you know the difference between 2080ti and 2060
tired orbit
instead of an hdd?
versed rock
Ok, so... Who needs help with building PC's?
tired orbit
or add an ssd
next kestrel
there is EVGA GA 850W for 120$
vital warren
have both
next kestrel
add an ssd
tired orbit
alright
versed rock
It is.
tired orbit
which one?
uncut pelican
Gonna brb
versed rock
Wait
vital warren
both around the same speeds
tired orbit
alright
vital warren
whichever is cheaper
versed rock
Isn't the MP34 a DRAMless SSD?
stoic island
Alright so, @clear viper that motherboard has debug LEDs, can you find it?
@versed rock no
vital warren
no
clear viper
mr1111 can you help me in private chat? hard to keep up with who is helping me and who is helping someone else...
stoic island
:P
versed rock
Huh, weird. I could have sworn it was DRAMless
stoic island
where
foggy hazel
@versed rock get better sources.
versed rock
Ah.
stoic island
MP33 is dramless but has HMB
foggy hazel
:)
versed rock
Good lord, you didn't need to ping me...
stoic island
Sure I'll move to DMs for now
foggy hazel
its just a ping, and makes it easier to track later on.
signal mauve
whats the diffrence between h500 and h510 is the h510 bigger?
signal mauve
nzxt
versed rock
NZXT cases are crap
Don't buy them.
There's like 1 case that is ok at best
And that's the tower mITX case they have.
That comes with a Liquid Cooler.
The rest are all restricted airflow garbage.
This is a good case.
And it's on a 10 dollar off promo on Newegg right now too!
stoic island
all I can say is
Mx330-g air is the best budget case I know of
3 included fans with mesh at 55$
versed rock
Yeah, that is fair. But, I think the H510 is a bit smaller.
And I know for a fact the P300A is smaller than that.
versed rock
Can you stop linebreaking?
foggy hazel
@little osprey for gaming?
little osprey
ye
foggy hazel
what resolution and what refresh rate and what games?
versed rock
Just let me do it real quick mr
little osprey
no
versed rock
I'll take over.
foggy hazel
and @little osprey stop trolling
stoic island
I'm going to dive back into dms
little osprey
how am i trolling
versed rock
Mr, how long have you been building PC's?
stoic island
have fun
foggy hazel
you are making a mess just for the sake of things.
you have been here long enough to know better than that
@versed rock trust me, you dont want the headcache of this one
little osprey
im asking for a 600$ build for 1080p gaming and games like valorant, br games and cod
versed rock
I've been dealing with headache builds in the Pcpp discord for awhile.
This is barely scratching the surface.
little osprey
im asking for a 600$ build for 1080p gaming and games like valorant, br games and cod
@little osprey anyone?
foggy hazel
@little osprey there are multiple lists that have been given to you
versed rock
I literally did.
versed rock
Argh, PSU market changes so much I don't know what is a handgrenade and what is good anymore...
foggy hazel
AMP/rmx/D.F
versed rock
Can we just go back to the era where G2s were cheap and cows were spheres?
signal mauve
whats a good white mid tower atx case
versed rock
P400A Digital
foggy hazel
any Fractal Design case that comes in white is also solid
but it has a distinct look
stoic island
@foggy hazel do you know how Asus debug LEDs work?
According to the lga1151 sheet, the Z390-plus mobo has some sort of onboard debug LEDs
but I can't find them anywhere
board photo:
https://www.asus.com/media/global/gallery/q5faqWlzVB2W7k36_setting_xxx_0_90_end_1000.png
little osprey
check manual lol
versed rock
@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQJFGq Closest to 600 USD I could reasonably get without Monitor, Mouse, and Keyboard.
It isn't great though.
stoic island
you think I have time >:(
versed rock
If there was a decent Bronze PSU I could use, i'd use it.
stoic island
swap the PSU for like a BR600 and you get it near budget
foggy hazel
or CX
stoic island
62$ for br600 earlier today
foggy hazel
sold!
stoic island
and motherboard could be 95$ B550m pro4 if they don't need wifi.
versed rock
I put Wi-Fi on there just in case.
foggy hazel
@stoic island above the ATX plug there is a mem-led
versed rock
Since they said literally nothing about connectivity
stoic island
hm okay
winter marsh
@versed rock It's reasonable but I'm no fan of the 1650, as it benchmarks slower than a 1060 6gb
foggy hazel
@stoic island
foggy hazel
np
uncut pelican
Nice almost level 10
uncut pelican
what liquid cooler do you guys recommend for a 7 3700x that is under 150 bucks
foggy hazel
@versed rock its the anti-spam bot. Until you get a green name (which is lvl 3) you are limited in what links you can post
foggy hazel
it comes fast, but it deters most
versed rock
Are you running a Mini-ITX build FiL?
If so, then Liquid Cooling is marginally ok due to space constraints.
uncut pelican
No reg atx
versed rock
Just get a chonky air cooler if you are in a normal ATX config
A Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B is my choice for the mid-tier Ryzen chips.
uncut pelican
The only good air coolers have been expensive and then it seems to be more worth it to buy a liquid cooler
Yk
winter marsh
@uncut pelican it comes with a Wraith Prism right
uncut pelican
Wha?
stoic island
3700x stock works fine
versed rock
If you absolutely need a cooler replacement (The Wraith Prism is pretty good, if a bit loud) https://www.newegg.com/scythe-scmg-5100/p/13C-0004-00075
Good, the bot doesn't deter it's own website's links.
uncut pelican
Ok i may be doing overclocking so thats why i have been thinking bout a liquid cooler
uncut pelican
Maybe
winter marsh
plus the cpu is only 65 tdp with a max temp of 95 degrees
versed rock
Overclocking a Ryzen 3000 chip is an exercise in futility
uncut pelican
But maybe ill wait to buy a cooler then just use the stock for a bit
versed rock
At best you will get 100mhz
uncut pelican
ok i wont overclock
versed rock
Only until you start doing LN2 shenanegins will you get anything reasonable for an OC.
And that isn't daily driveable.
uncut pelican
Also im not really playing games that will need to overclock
versed rock
Just tell Ryzen Master to run Precision Boost Overdrive, and let the CPU/Motherboard do the rest.
uncut pelican
I just talked to my dads friend says a liquid cooler would be smart
uncut pelican
His job is to build computers i really dont know who to believe
viral ore
AIO looks cool, and yes performs better, but it isnt worth investing in
winter marsh
@versed rock seems like the 1650 super vs 1060 6gb is a 50/50 even match depending on the title
viral ore
is this for a 3600?
uncut pelican
3700
versed rock
There are 3 reasons why you would get a Liquid Cooler.
- You are using a Mini-ITX rig for space concerns
- You are overclocking a high-end CPU
- You have more money than brains
viral ore
the goal is to keep a cpu under its max rated temperature
uncut pelican
Ok ill think about an air cooler
uncut pelican
I will need to more research
versed rock
That's not... entirely true.
viral ore
of course, there are cheap AIOs that work well
versed rock
CPUs are now working a little more like GPUs where they will boost based on Load, Voltage, AND Thermals.
uncut pelican
Well thanks for the input guys i will consider air cooler
heavy sundial
I mean liquid aios look pretty cool lol
uncut pelican
Agreed
versed rock
Just slap the Stock Air Cooler on it and use it for a week, and if you feel it is too loud, then slap a Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B on it.
hearty iron
Where do I get build advice from, or is that channel listed in the rules?
versed rock
I've been building for 10 years now.
viral ore
when are you planning to build? the new 5600x is releasing soon
uncut pelican
This channel is very good for this
viral ore
it might be the better option
uncut pelican
@viral ore i already bought a 3700 btw
versed rock
It wasn't worth the nearly 200 dollars I spent on it.
uncut pelican
:|||
hearty iron
Oh yeah I forgot that's coming out soon. I'll wait
uncut pelican
I will think about it
versed rock
Yeah, I'd seriously consider returning it and waiting for the 5600X
winter marsh
Not the time to speak of my hate for Corsair Aio's..
viral ore
the IPC gains will seriously help you more than the extra 2/4 the 3700x has
uncut pelican
But i dont want to wait months then it will go out of stock in one min
versed rock
It's like, less than a month away.
viral ore
5600x is releasing like, this month
versed rock
Ryzen 5000 is launching in a few days IIRC
uncut pelican
Yk what im saying and why eould i need anything other than a 3700
versed rock
The 8th I think.
viral ore
and it most likely wont have stock issues
balmy patio
the 5th
heavy sundial
^
uncut pelican
Ugh ok ill take a peek
versed rock
The 3700X is going to be slower than the 5600X for roughly the same money.
The 5600X is... 300 USD
uncut pelican
Wow really
versed rock
A 3700X is what... 320USD?
viral ore
maybe for the first few days when it goes up for sale, but any stock issues wont be prolonged like with the RTX 30 series
versed rock
And, if you go with a 5600X, I would HIGHLY consider a B550 motherboard, and if the 6800/6800XT/6900XT are good GPUs, looking at one of those GPUs.
viral ore
^
uncut pelican
I already have a 3070
hearty iron
I have a $1500 budget for whatever I make, I just want a PC that I can have chrome open on while playing a game
versed rock
🤦
uncut pelican
I have a b550
viral ore
you got a 3070??? awesome
versed rock
Return the 3070.
viral ore
no
heavy sundial
bruh
viral ore
3070 is fine
versed rock
Wait for Big Navi
uncut pelican
@versed rock not a chance
versed rock
If Big Navi kills the 3070, you don wasted yo money.
viral ore
3070 is great for 500, the 6800xt is supposed to be like 650
versed rock
6800 is also 500...
vital warren
580
viral ore
then we will wait and see
viral ore
lets wait and see
heavy sundial
the 6800 is like 600
vital warren
580
versed rock
I think you mean 6800, and no it isn't.
heavy sundial
it is
spark helm
the 6800 will likely be a nice step up to people who happen to have the extra budget available
versed rock
I have some faith in them.
Mostly because if they flop this time, nobody will buy them again.
spark helm
I'm just gonna wait until reviewers pick them apart, I dont want to be one of those people who just blindly buys
versed rock
I really have hope in them because of the absolutely MASSIVE amount of VRAM these cards have.
heavy sundial
last time I was super hyped for amd was the radeon vii and....yeah....
versed rock
I agree Kachow
Well, Rad 7 was never going to be a good card.
It was just 7nm Vega
It was an expensive Vega card that was a stop-gap at best.
It DID do really good in Compute Tasks though.
It was a Rendering freak's dream GPU
heavy sundial
it did, but for some reason amd advertised it as a gaming card lmao
versed rock
Yeah, I'm still miffed at that.
If Vega hadn't used HBM2 RAM, it might have been priced well enough to sell.
viral ore
kinda like how nvidia is marketing the 3090 as a gaming card 🤦
versed rock
I really hope that the new Infinity Cache concept that AMD is using takes off.
It's a really cool concept, I just think the Memory Interface size of RDNA2 is going to be a bottleneck.
256 bit wide memory interface?
That's pretty narrow for how much RAM they are giving these cards.
heavy sundial
we'll see once benchmarks come out
versed rock
The 3070 has a 256 Bit Bus.
Unless the Infinity Cache is designed to alliveate the Memory Bus?
viral ore
thats a maybe? im sure GN will cover it
heavy sundial
honestly the 3070 is still a decent buy
arctic jungle
-_-
they are all on different planes of existance
so you can't compare any of them
for example
uncut pelican
Back boys
arctic jungle
the 6900 xt vs the 3090?
versed rock
I honestly wish the 6800 was priced closer to the 3070.
arctic jungle
the 3090 has 24 gb of vram, so it's best for creators like myself
heavy sundial
technically you can compare them in certain areas
versed rock
Yeah, but... What about the Infinity Cache? will that alliveate the 16GB of RAM? And, with a Ryzen 5000 CPU + B550/X570 the CPU has direct VRAM Access, so, it could swap things between RAM and VRAM.
There's a LOT of factors in the Big Navi launch.
arctic jungle
wellll
little osprey
ur making it more difficult than it has to be
arctic jungle
??
arctic jungle
amd's ray tracing and dlss is stupid
vital warren
I may end up going amd depending on 6800 benchmarks
little osprey
if ur doing anything other than games
arctic jungle
because they have no support
little osprey
like editing or cad
versed rock
Uhh
little osprey
sure 3090
verbal cairn
Any thoughts on passively cooled PCs.
little osprey
@arctic jungle amd and nvidias ray tracing is the same lol
dxr
the only thing nvidia has is dlss
but amd says they have a solution too
arctic jungle
@arctic jungle amd and nvidias ray tracing is the same lol
@little osprey nvidia's ray tracing is software based. you can use rt cores for any 3d task. AMD's are hardware based specifically for ray tracing. and they have no supported games or softwares
versed rock
But they do...
little osprey
nvidia has rt cores antago
versed rock
AMD is still using DirectX Raytracing just like Nvidia.
little osprey
its not software based
versed rock
Nvidia's Raytracing is just as hardware based as AMD's is.
little osprey
^
arctic jungle
but rt cores are multitaskable
versed rock
Not really...
little osprey
also antago there doesnt need to be supported games or software for amd
arctic jungle
that's false
little osprey
its literally done already by the gpu
arctic jungle
any 3d task can be done by rt cores
little osprey
amd says everything ray tracing for games related working on an rtx will work on an amd too
arctic jungle
take it from a 3D app designer :)
versed rock
So... Then why didn't they just get rid of CUDA cores in favor of packing a crapload of RT cores in the GPU? 🤔
little osprey
okay? i work on autodesk maya, after effects, c4d, and autocad
versed rock
Your argument is just flat wrong Antago.
little osprey
amd will still be taken advantage of
versed rock
RT cores can't be used for "any 3D task"
little osprey
its literally the same tech except nvidia is overmarketed
versed rock
Otherwise CUDA Cores would be gone.
arctic jungle
So... Then why didn't they just get rid of CUDA cores in favor of packing a !@#$%^&* of RT cores in the GPU? 🤔
@versed rock because cuda cores are for litterally everything else
also
bad word usage
delete plz
little osprey
im just saying that its both the same tech
just nvidia is overmarketing it
making it seem like theyre the first
versed rock
Ok... I'm like 99.99% sure the word I used has been used numerous times in PG-13 movies.
little osprey
"rtx" is not even real ray tracing in games
versed rock
I didn't drop an F-bomb, which those are 100% not allowed in PG-13 movies.
little osprey
its just ray tracing reflections mixed with screenspace everything else
if we were doing real ray tracing, it could take hours or days to render a frame
arctic jungle
i gtg to class now
little osprey
minutes if its basic ray tracing
foggy hazel
@arctic jungle we have been over this before
every single game that supports raytracing on consoles is doing so with the hardware that AMD has in the RNDA2 chips
viral ore
you can liken RT cores to AVX. its a hardware based solution for handling specific instructions
foggy hazel
which are enabled VIA DXR
viral ore
games and programs that use it, will
the dont have to be used for real time ray tracing in games
so in that sense, you could call them general purpose
foggy hazel
which is what Nvidia leverages for their implementation, which they call RTX
dreamy root
is this a good build? GPU and CPU is placeholder
narrow rose
kind of hard to say if the gpu and cpu are just place holders
little osprey
600 dollar build for 1080p gaming and games like valorant, cs, cod, and other stuff
anyone?
foggy hazel
you have had lists sent to you multiple times @little osprey
little osprey
i only had 1 list
foggy hazel
that you keep on ignoring them, is not something we can do anything about.
little osprey
and i want more ppls opinion
foggy hazel
today.
narrow rose
you could try compiling your lists into one and see what we think of it
dreamy root
Placeholder for 3080 and 5900x
scarlet saddle
foggy hazel
@scarlet saddle post it in #build-pics instead :)
scarlet saddle
So let me get this straight. You win a free pc build with a 3080 and a 3090 from the giveaway?
Oh right sorry
dreamy root
?
dreamy root
nvm
scarlet saddle
Yeah uts outdated. I have 2 tn panels now at 1440p 144hz
narrow rose
@dreamy root the ram is pricey but it looks really good, havent heard of that psu and dont know what that price is in US dollars but it looks ok, a 3080 and 5900x will be great. That motherboard usually gets decent reviews I think its also a little pricey but its a pricey build so...
plucky sleet
the leftg one is not bad for a tn
dreamy root
okay
narrow rose
I have the same ram brand even though its expensive cause it looks pretty
dreamy root
I live in Norway so something migth be unkown
fleet pagoda
.
narrow rose
thats pricey but its premium parts and you are in Norway lol
narrow rose
not too far off what it would cost in US probably around $2100-2200 usd
narrow rose
sure
@cursive haven I really hate the way that ram looks (cosmetically) but it appears to be a decent system
dreamy root
I can agree on that
cursive haven
@cursive haven I really hate the way that ram looks (cosmetically) but it appears to be a decent system
@narrow rose ik the ram looks weird i just wanted cheap rgb
fleet pagoda
Im looking at this case bc it looke cool ;-; https://www.newegg.com/black-rosewill-cullinan-v500-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811147292
narrow rose
@fleet pagoda thats too expensive for a rosewill case
narrow rose
they did put a nice air gap though with the tempered glass
fleet pagoda
So it looks cool but the case is bad
versed rock
Get this
You get both great looks and great thermals.
This case was blessed by PC Jesus himself.
narrow rose
P400a is a great case
dreamy root
So it looks cool but the case is bad
@fleet pagoda
why is the case bad?
versed rock
The case he picked (and the meme case you chose) are both thermally terrible.
versed rock
fleet pagoda
But thats not enough for me to spend 100 on a bad case
versed rock
Is this not sexy?
fleet pagoda
Its is sexy
versed rock
You get the fans with the case too
versed rock
Yes...
dreamy root
why?
versed rock
That front panel is literally terrible for thermals.
Can't draw any air into the case.
dreamy root
true but bottom and back
versed rock
Front > All other ways of drawing air into the case
open bronze
Skip trace is right
narrow rose
@dreamy root oh yeah the thermals wont be great but it should be fine
have to use an aio
dreamy root
little osprey
specs i78700k rtx 2080ti ram 32gb storage 2tb
versed rock
Unless you have a case that is raised up off the floor and can put fans on the bottom to do a bottom to top thermal conduction method.
fleet pagoda
dreamy root
if im not wrong I get the radiator and fans with the case to water cool the processor
versed rock
There's no radiator in that case...
little osprey
no
narrow rose
yeah you will have to buy an aio
dreamy root
wrong picture
narrow rose
its just showing you where one would go in that pic
dreamy root
ohh okay it just says included
open bronze
An aio won't perform any better than a normal cpu cooler if it can't get adequate air flow.
boreal urchin
yoooooooo
narrow rose
yes thats true but an aio takes up so little space inside it increases airflow in the case 😉
fleet pagoda
Praying on the rookies downfall
viral ore
link to the case? @dreamy root
balmy parrot
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp2q3Z hows this looking?
fleet pagoda
We both have the rookie role
dreamy root
cant send the newegg link and my site is in Norwegian
arctic jungle
@balmy parrot big eh
dreamy root
I could have sent that one tho
arctic jungle
everything could be improved
for starters
why b550 on a 3600?
why not mp34 for a ssd
balmy parrot
whats wrong with the mobo
narrow rose
its hard to tell whats going on
balmy parrot
and?
narrow rose
arctic jungle
what's the point
balmy parrot
its a good mobo
narrow rose
like is that the rgb front thingy?
arctic jungle
you're spending extra for me reason
balmy parrot
yeah a whole 20 usd more whoah
dreamy root
of the case
narrow rose
oh thats the bottom
dreamy root
yea
arctic jungle
get b450 or x470, and put the 30-60$ you save to getting a rtx 2070 for 400$
narrow rose
arctic jungle
yeah a whole 20 usd more whoah
@balmy parrot if u gonna be rude don't ask for crititique
narrow rose
and is that cut outs in the side or a reflection?
fleet pagoda
I think i have my parts picked out good now
desert gulch
wow antago is a booster now
fleet pagoda
😎
balmy parrot
b450 doesnt ship with ryzen 3rd gen bios
narrow rose
oh well that cant hurt
viral ore
@dreamy root dm me the link
narrow rose
I linked that amazon link above
dreamy root
like now I have a small case that is nice to move but I dont want to open bc cable and space
viral ore
i mean the case looks fine, i just dont know how the gpu is gonna handle having zero direct airflow
oh
narrow rose
wonder if it comes with a riser
viral ore
it has fans at the bottom
narrow rose
all the pics show the gpu on a riser
viral ore
i dont see a gpu at all
rugged owl
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/emptypotatato/saved/nPDVwP This is going to be my first pc build should these parts do good?
narrow rose
see gpu on riser
no fans on bottom although it looks like they could mount some there
narrow rose
probably
viral ore
or maybe in win sells something
narrow rose
but at least the whole bottom is open
dreamy root
cant the air go like this?
viral ore
yeah, i didnt realize there were spots for fans at the bottom
narrow rose
and the power supply is going upper left i assume?
dreamy root
I think so yea
jaunty kernel
what do u guys think?
dreamy root
and if the top fans drag air out I dont need fans at the bottom
little osprey
lol
zealous edge
Oof
dreamy root
but it is better
zealous edge
That's something else
viral ore
i wouldnt rely on negative case pressure to feed the gpu air
there are some well priced case fans you can get
zealous edge
Thats prolly the best pc I've seen in a while
narrow rose
yeah the gpu should get at least one fan
dreamy root
I want my gpu out like this one tho but I may be able to fit some fans in the botom
jaunty kernel
Thats prolly the best pc I've seen in a while
@zealous edge xD its my masterpiece xd
zealous edge
Yeye lol
dreamy root
dooky is good?
narrow rose
i dont think he meant good
dreamy root
dont look good?
versed rock
It's gaudy AF
narrow rose
I don't mind it
dreamy root
ohh if you say so
zealous edge
👍 🍞 🍴
narrow rose
I think the new founders cards look neat and I would mount one vertical if I had one
viral ore
im gonna be mounting mine vertical once i get it
dreamy root
imma just go normal then
viral ore
its gonna look pooooogers
fleet pagoda
Ima jus put mine how ever it fits
dreamy root
imma put mine like normal then rather move it if im not happy
and how the hell do I get out of this rookie role?
narrow rose
technically all my gpus are mounted vertical since I use haf x evo cases and all my mother boards lay horizontal 😉
scenic forum
nice
fleet pagoda
Im so paranoid if i buy parts not everthing will fit right
narrow rose
when you stop caring about how they look just get haf x evos since they have real handles and everything is horizontal no stress on parts hanging from motherboard
dreamy root
water cooled cpu with radiator on top
jaunty kernel
also guys i found this offer
narrow rose
yes but I would stick a fan or two on the bottom if there are fan mounts
jaunty kernel
if your close to microcenter maybe get a free one
my country doesnt have MC so i cant
dreamy root
yea imma have 2 or 3 fans to pull in air
narrow rose
pull air from the bottom push it out that one fan on the back
narrow rose
lol well depending on how long that takes would make any final plans
are you one of those 18 year old driver countries?
dreamy root
so I need like 100k for car and license (10450 USD) and then 28-30k on computer (2900-3150USD)
versed rock
Your parents aren't buying you a car?
versed rock
WTF, that's messed up!
dreamy root
Im paying for everything myself
narrow rose
yeah had to make sure its 16 in the usa
dreamy root
or my dad gave me a 15k present for the license
narrow rose
amazon prime?
dreamy root
but it do cost like 30k
versed rock
Wait, it costs you for the license?!?
dreamy root
30k like its 3150 usd is the normal prize in my country
zealous edge
5700xt good?
narrow rose
ouch
narrow rose
more like $25 usd for a license here
zealous edge
In Canada we get it for free
dreamy root
wait really?
dreamy root
driving leasons?
narrow rose
drivers ed is part of our highschool
zealous edge
From the ministry they are covered by the goverment
dreamy root
Ohh
dreamy root
Norway
dreamy root
Drivers license was free at my highschool but I had to wait a year before I could do it and that year they stopped with it 😦
Nice
narrow rose
yeah our property taxes techinically pay for them in the usa
narrow rose
well thats a bargain
dreamy root
I gtg have fun 🙂
narrow rose
later
narrow rose
my house is around 650k and my property taxes are around 22k usd
dreamy root
and before I actually leave wanna donate like 1mil $ to me 🤑🤣 jk
bye
zealous edge
O
narrow rose
depends where in the US you are looking at houses as Im sure it does in Canada too
dreamy shale
Hi, I accidentaly followed the verge pc build guide, call the firemen please.
narrow rose
you can find a nice run down shack in L.A. for 1.7 million
sharp sun
narrow rose
pretty
i used to have a mineral oil PC in like 1996
had to rub the whole thing down in vasoline first then poured mineral oil over the whole thing in a fish tank
all my fan motors ended up dying too fast to keep it going
fans dont like moving mineral oil
zealous edge
Lolll
upbeat bison
My build is questionable af
versed rock
Ok fine mister pedantic.
versed rock
They both do the same thing.
narrow rose
probably much thinner if I had to guess also
upbeat bison
narrow rose
or more viscous i should say
versed rock
They both allow for full immersion cooling.
zealous edge
5700 xt auros or 5700xy nitro+
zealous edge
Lol
viral ore
the underlying cooling tech is vastly different, they are not interchangable
viral ore
@upbeat bison put pics in #build-pics
upbeat bison
I'm probably gonna upgrade to a 3700X and b550 over the winter
covert pewter
Is it good that a bought the NZXT H elite
viral ore
idek how the bot let you post those
narrow rose
its build chat you might have an issue that we need to see a pic of
covert pewter
Well then can someone make me a 1000 dollar build for gaming I already have the case and psu
left shore
What CPU is the best for max gaming?
versed rock
Uhh, waiting for Ryzen 5000.
That's the best CPU for gaming, is waiting.
@covert pewter H what elite?
All NZXT Cases are 💩
narrow rose
I feel like right now I would say the 10700k is best
left shore
I see
versed rock
And I would call you a madman.
left shore
I plan on playing games on 1080P but I want max FPS
left shore
I have a Ryzen 5 3600 atm
versed rock
That's plenty fine for gaming.
left shore
I have a 1080P 240 hz monitor
narrow rose
but games are going to be going more towards mutli threading and I think AMDs new cpus will be king soon
versed rock
Why did you buy a 1080p 240hz monitor?
viral ore
modern consoles still only have 8 cpu cores, right?
versed rock
That's like, very much a placebo effect monitor unless you are a professional gamer.
viral ore
that is the limiting factor
versed rock
You would have been much better off buying a 1440p 144hz (or 165hz) monitor for overall gaming experience.
narrow rose
true but amd makes all the console cpus so they will start getting more cores in the next 10-20 years
versed rock
Competitive =/= Professional
viral ore
yeah, but for now, the most i would suggest for gaming is the 5700x
left shore
Well if I want to become a professional I need the best
viral ore
but even the 5600x will dominate just fine
versed rock
Not really Metro.
covert pewter
Nzxt h510 elite the black one
viral ore
you do not need the best
versed rock
Most of the pros started on really crap machines.
left shore
But it helps
left shore
Ofc but there's a limit to how much ability can take you
viral ore
for 1080p@240hz, a 5600x and a 3070 or 6800 will do fine
narrow rose
more than fine
viral ore
that will be more than enough
left shore
How will my 3600 and 5700XT do?
versed rock
Already overkill
viral ore
just as good
left shore
I just bought a 5700XT Red Devil
versed rock
Like, how long ago?
viral ore
what games are you going comp in?
left shore
Like a couple days ago
versed rock
🤦
covert pewter
I’m going to get a red devil 5600xt
left shore
It was only 390
versed rock
When a new thing launches, wait for the new thing to come out before buying something.
narrow rose
4k gaming is really nice though just saying
viral ore
390 is a good price for the 5700xt
versed rock
Because old things will get price drops.
magic fractal
Hey does anyone have experience with a dual PC system build?
covert pewter
Like 2 dollar price drops
viral ore
new not so much
versed rock
2 Systems in 1 Case build?
left shore
The 2070 Super still cost the same lol
narrow rose
@magic fractal from like the year 2000
covert pewter
Fr
magic fractal
Yeah 2 systems in 1 case
versed rock
What kind of help do you need?
magic fractal
@narrow rose lol
narrow rose
oh no not 2 systems one case
vale mist
HI! I need help
covert pewter
Is the NZXT H510 elite good
versed rock
No
narrow rose
2 cpus one board was what I thought you meant
versed rock
It's a pretty 💩 case
vale mist
I cant write in #general-chat
covert pewter
Well it’s my first build
versed rock
Return it then.
woeful herald
quick someone give me a great bang for the buck 1000 buck pc
versed rock
I'll tell you a significantly better case to buy.
vale mist
Well, now it works
magic fractal
I was just confused on how to actually link them. I’m using it for streaming. I have a capture card in one of them and I was just curious how you get it to actually capture your games
And yeah dude the 510 elite is poop
covert pewter
Why
magic fractal
Yeah temps sucks
narrow rose
does it have a nvidia card?
left shore
So with my 3600 and 5700 XT I'll be able to sustain 240 FPS?
versed rock
The case I just linked is really good.
In CS:GO? Easily.
Valorant? Without a doubt
covert pewter
It comes with 5 fans
left shore
Fortnite
versed rock
The H510 Elite most certainly does not come with 5 fans
still roostBOT
Skiptrace#4386 has been warned
versed rock
🤦