Currently at 50 mb download but my laptop for some reason does not get that much
#building-and-recc-chat
sacred knot
pseudo forge
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dks3t8 if anyone has time
deep skiff
@pseudo forge you would need a european power cord or outlet adaptor if it the psu doesnt come with it
pseudo forge
Appreciate it brother
silent canyon
What gpu could i pair with a ryzen 3100 or 3300x
viral ore
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/rYzV7X @sacred knot
leaves half the budget for PSU and GPU
those components kinda have stock and pricing issues
so its best to get them from evga b stock
imo
there are some good psus here for cheap
pseudo forge
@viral ore could you have a look at mine?
sacred knot
the evga website displays prices in US dollar no?
pseudo forge
It’s USA @viral ore
sacred knot
i mean 1.5k is my budget but i was willing to drop a few $$
sacred knot
and i still gotta worry about the OS
sacred knot
whats windows unactivated?
viral ore
it isnt anything
sacred knot
i need to be able to program and want to game as well
viral ore
yeah, thats old
sacred knot
2019
viral ore
after a few reboots, windows displays the activate windows now watermark
you cant personalize windows until you activate it
other than that its fine
sacred knot
by personalize, you mean like changing backgrounds and stuff?
pseudo forge
On that list the GPU and CPU is gonna be the new ryzen 5600x and 6800xt hopefully
sacred knot
wait who is that for?
deft zephyr
is this card: much bigger than the Founders edition enought to make a diffrence?
oops meant this one
viral ore
u @sacred knot i probably should have mentioned u lol
sacred knot
haha thanks
viral ore
just added psu and gpu
sacred knot
but wait
is this GPU better than the other one i had?
the other was a bit cheaper price wise
and u told me this one doesnt have great thermals
viral ore
the difference in clock speed between 60 and 70 C is zero
hence why i say "it works"
5700xt is better than 2060
sacred knot
worth the extra $$ then?
viral ore
yes
viral ore
the card i picked is roughly the same price as the 2060 you picked
sacred knot
i just hope taxes wont f me up
pseudo forge
@viral ore in my part picker build the cpu and gpu are just placeholders for the new 5600x and 6800xt btw
viral ore
oh yeah forgot about you
hold on
are you sure you want that case?
it might be a bit much for you, it very beeg and heavy and glass
viral ore
so you want big case?
viral ore
if you got the 465X, would you want it in white or black?
pseudo forge
White I think
viral ore
@pseudo forge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xZYDxc
if you want you could use the fans that the aio comes with and not pay an extra 110 for case fans
pseudo forge
I sorta fell into the RGB aesthetic trap
You think the 465x is better than the o11?
viral ore
thats totally up to you
the o11 would have better thermals, but wouldnt look as good unless you bought more case fans
this case has enough front intake
pseudo forge
I’m looking to buy fans in the future if I get the 011 dynamic
But the 465x comes with fans and looks good too so I’m kinda torn
viral ore
imo the white with rgb looks kinda fresh
pseudo forge
Maybe one of them will go on sale during Black Friday/ cyber Monday
viral ore
it doesnt have to be rainbow puke, you can always just set it to purple or something
dont count on that
pseudo forge
I’m buying all my parts end of November so ill see what deals there are
I’ve also already got strimmer plus cables
Extra rgb= better performance am I right
viral ore
oh
pseudo forge
Btw how comes you took the 1tb nvme off for a 500gb @viral ore
viral ore
ok then
winter marsh
On the upside if you go all Corsair peripherals you can avoid bloatware using the ICue software only.
viral ore
because, do you really need a tb of ssd?
viral ore
i have warzone on my hdd
viral ore
MW 2019 runs pretty decent
winged tinsel
If I have an 8 core CPU with only 16 GB of ram will it really hurt performance
viral ore
as far as being optimized goes, i would give it a B
viral ore
no its pretty easy
pseudo forge
Really?
winter marsh
A basic 1tb ssd will do fine, its x4 faster than a HD and not noticeably slower than a NVME
sacred knot
whats overclocking?
viral ore
just dont manually crank voltage and you are fine
winged tinsel
Making it perform better but it gets hotter
sacred knot
oh okok
viral ore
modern components protect themselves from overheating
pseudo forge
The amount of pc videos I watch
viral ore
some people list specs
viral ore
yeah, its much cheaper too
console and pc really arent comparable
they are two very different things
pseudo forge
I’m getting a pc because I’m gonna use it for work too
sacred knot
but u can also do more with a pc
viral ore
i do way more on my pc than game
and if i already have a pc, why would i pay for a console
i have pc
winter marsh
Depending on the manufacturer there are presets for your cpu/ddr speeds
pseudo forge
Is there much of a difference between CL16 and CL18 ram?
pseudo forge
Is it noticeable?
winter marsh
Typically XMP profiles for ddr memory
pseudo forge
If I get 2x8 ram sticks and I wanna upgrade to 32gb of ram will I need to buy another pair of the same ram?
viral ore
you probably wont notice it, but its just one more better optimized thing that adds to the usefulness and speed of your system.
yes
winter marsh
For example I run 32gb 3600mhz with a 18 latency
viral ore
you can get away with getting a different kit, but it might not work right
viral ore
ram is ram
it runs at different speeds
faster ram is more better
but you only need ram so fast
winter marsh
Ryzen spec ram is simply pre tested
pseudo forge
I just hope I can get a 6800xt not worried about anything else tbh
safe peak
hey guys could one of you rate my list and tell what I should change? my budget is 2k but i can go a lil over https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j6xMcT
viral ore
when r u buying
safe peak
maybe 2-3 weeks
viral ore
it needs some work
winter marsh
the Aio isn't required as the stock cooler is fine with a 3600xt
use the extra funds to get a larger NVME or SSD
weak field
also trade out the ram
safe peak
ok
safe peak
will the 3600xt bottneck the 3070?
winter marsh
no
safe peak
ok good
winter marsh
a 3600xt runs well with a 3080
weak field
not much at all
safe peak
halloween was depressing this year ngl
weak field
yesh
viral ore
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hZhzNP @safe peak
safe peak
my neighborhood was dead
winter marsh
oh yeah, imagine not getting the kids out of my room/aka computer room with seven pc's on the walls
weak field
wait
safe peak
@viral ore i might actually use that thank you
weak field
you mean that the trick or treaters went in your house or summin else
viral ore
yeah its way better
safe peak
i am probably going to go with the ryzen 5600x stock cooler
viral ore
my gpu actin kinda strange so i gotta restart pc
safe peak
i am on a 2009 mac rn B))
winter marsh
well it depends on how many games or apps you install, I run 1tb hd or ssd minimum, my new build is a 2tb ssd on a 8tb storage
still roostBOT
Aido Potato#1399 has been warned
safe peak
.
winter marsh
this is my x570
rapid ravine
radeon rx570 8GB, 16gb of ram, ASUS TUF gaming B550M plus motherboards, amd ryzen 5 3600 3,6GHz
this ok?
winter marsh
the vga is the bottleneck, but I'm in the same boat with a 1060 6gb
safe peak
will 650 wats or 750 wats be good for a 3070 and a 5600x?
winter marsh
ok the 3070 should pull like 300-350 watts, the 5600x pulls 105 I recall so its fine
safe peak
and if i get a monitor that is 27 inches, should it be curved or flat? i am mainly doing gaming
iron berry
5600x is 65w
winter marsh
my bad i thought he said 5800x
iron berry
5800x is 105 but you wrote 5600x
winter marsh
thats what I am after as my nephews to clone my rig, I was just gonna give him the 3600xt
iron berry
Ah
safe peak
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MpqZfP still unsure about the monitor so rate me
winter marsh
3070 recommended is 750 watts
I was gonna recycle a wraith prism for the 5800x
hmm the EVGA card specs are lower than the Asus Tuf
Minimum of a 650 Watt power supply.
Two available 8-pin or 6+2pin PCIe power dongles
Total Power Draw : 220 Watts
The monitor is great but you can shave a bit off the cost.
these are my personal picks but newegg has a few to offer if you look.
stoic island
Hai there
@winter marsh I think you can shave even more off for a better monitor, take a look at the gigabyte M27q and G27q
winter marsh
I did but the 32 inch is calling my name but the Asus Tuf monitors theme the pc as Asus Tuf mobo, vga, and monitor
iron berry
Vga?
winter marsh
old name for a video card
winter marsh
or the basic connection type prior to hdmi etc
iron berry
I was gonna say how a connection was asus tuf branded lol
winter marsh
well at present my keyboard, mouse, and headset are Logitech
stoic island
I see no... Relevance for monitor and component brand matching
Oh wait for yourself?
Thought you were talking about that list...
winter marsh
Kids have G Skill, Corsair, and Cougar sets, I am answering your question.
stoic island
Anyways @safe peak
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018
winter marsh
I've already answered his
stoic island
I was just really confused about what you were saying on this part... Oh well, doesn't matter now
I did but the 32 inch is calling my name but the Asus Tuf monitors theme the pc as Asus Tuf mobo, vga, and monitor
winter marsh
My suggestion was to shop around for his specs
winter marsh
I'm building an Asus themed pc
stoic island
I'm gonna go now before I get more confused
winter marsh
Actually it was a Gigabyte monitor
winter marsh
@safe peak https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MpqZfP still unsure about the monitor so rate me
System Builder
stoic island
@safe peak before I go, swap the SSD for NVMe, and maybe swap ram for 3600c16
winter marsh
No kids that play Roblox 24/7 is bad for the brain, I built their systems to play say Fortnite
@stoic island There are no noticeable performance gains for a NVME over a SSD
iron berry
Read and write speeds
stoic island
@winter marsh my point being, why not spend 3$ more for noticable better performance WHEN it does matter?
For example, say you want to move some game libraries over
Or offload some clips
That 3$ investment will be quite nice.
(I'm referring to the 63$ SN750 500gb atm).
winter marsh
Yeah I know that but in boot times, gaming apps, etc no, only if compiling mass media files maybe.
iron berry
Open world games
winter marsh
500gb isn't nearly enough, a win10 install and updates will kill 1/4th of that space.
stoic island
@winter marsh again, my point isn't to spend 3$ for no gains in boot time, my point is to spend 3$ for gains when speeds really matter :)
winter marsh
stoic island
Uh, you can keep sending links to boot/load time comparisons if you want
I'll be around
winter marsh
Practical application of hardware is my goal
I don't buy tech simply because it's there
stoic island
I have a habit of bringing up weird analogies, but what that logic, why would anyone ever use Raid?
iron berry
I have an m.2 ssd in my laptop but I still occasionally struggle loading world's in
stoic island
Basically "why use it just so it's there?"
Because there are times when it does give you benefits
Just not all the time.
native plover
just got my graphics card!!!!
winter marsh
I had this issue with the 1st pc I ever built, I went from ide to sata0 and it failed bigtime
winter marsh
Congrad@native plover s
stoic island
Or you mean sata 6gb/s or smth?
winter marsh
it wasn't close to 6gb more like x2 ide
stoic island
Good night
lyric thistle
maybe SATA port# 0?
winter marsh
it was on a Asus SLI Deluxe Amd64 mobo
lyric thistle
like going from the primary SATA port to the NVMe port, how that sometimes gets messed up because the BIOS doesn't understand?
or the changes weren't made in the BIOS
winter marsh
NVME has to be enabled in bios to recognized as a storage device
round arrow
winter marsh
initial sata drives where lets say substandard
round arrow
Is this a good mother board for this build ?
Also I plan on changing the gpu to a amd 6900 xt
winter marsh
Asus has some of the best support in the industry and the Strix line is reliable
round arrow
Would it be good with the new Ryzen™ 9 5950X Desktop Processors?
Or hard to say this early
winter marsh
Its early but reviews on the 6000 series are still good
round arrow
Thank you
winter marsh
I'm laughing because you picked my monitor of choice for the kids
winter marsh
For the cpu/gpu power your are going to be using I'd think you'd go for a 2k or 4k monitor
okay so you are recycling parts\
round arrow
Yeah I have a nice 1440p 240 hz monitor in my cart
Essentially, i didn’t feel like I needed give everything away.
winter marsh
I hear ya, I recycled alot of the kids stuff to save money
@round arrow My best advice is to shop around for the best prices, be it Ebay, Amazon, or Newegg...
round arrow
Alright thanks, but other then that, that’s a solid mother board?
winter marsh
@native plover you okay btw?
winged tinsel
Alright y’all big question, what if I just get a 4K tv and use that as a monitor
That would work fine right?
winter marsh
Yes and no, it would have the resolution but maybe fail on the refresh rates
gritty zenith
get an 8k tv instead
winged tinsel
In the description of the tv it doesn’t show the refresh rate, is there a way that I can find what that is somewhere before buying it?
winter marsh
You do realize its just a difference in pixel count
gritty zenith
specs
winter marsh
Try googling the manufacturer
gritty zenith
but for whatever reason a lot of websites like to hide refresh rate spec for tvs
gritty zenith
you might find a good enough tv if you look at the ones advertised for use with PS5 or Xbox Series X, since they are most likely to be 4k 120hz
winged tinsel
Wait there is a difference in pixel count between a 4K monitor and a 4K tv?
iron berry
You do realize its just a difference in pixel count
@winter marsh what exactly are you saying is the pixel count the refresh rate?
gritty zenith
Wait there is a difference in pixel count between a 4K monitor and a 4K tv?
@winged tinsel no
difference between 4k and 8k is what they were talkin bout
there is a difference between consumer 4k and professional 4k tho lol
winter marsh
@iron berry no, 1080p 1440p etc are just pixel counts, refresh rates and response times are another spec entirely
gritty zenith
if you do settle on a monitor, and look for a 4k monitor with high refresh make sure the response time is also 1ms
winter marsh
I do own a home theater system you know, for years, upgraded with new and old components
gritty zenith
noice
iron berry
Okay just making sure
Just got confused since it was made after the refresh rate message
winter marsh
Its a nightmare to own a working laser disc player and super vhs knowing you can never buy the media
gritty zenith
I love how this is a conversation for #old-monitors-and-tv but asking a question in any other channel than this one is a guarantee at getting ignored
winter marsh
Its cool @gritty zenith
gritty zenith
i mean i personally always go here to ask questions because if i go to the respective channels i never get answered so
yeah
i feel like the most reliable people tend to hang out here, considering most like to help people out with their builds
iron berry
Monitors are parts of builds so this is vague enough for it to count
gritty zenith
not good for gaming but if you dont have a tv and need a tv and want to also use it as a monitor for your pc i guess?
winged tinsel
Nah I’m gonna get a monitor after hearing 15 ms lol
winter marsh
I'm just a burly old fart with a 2x4, that happens to love building pc and pc gaming
winged tinsel
Can you guys critique my parts list rq?
gritty zenith
sure
winter marsh
Newegg system builder has never worked as intended lol
gritty zenith
looks decent, id consider changing the psu, also if you are gonna wait for 6800 that means that ryzen 5 5600x will be released by then, that will probably be far better than R7 3700x
winter marsh
Okay the only thing I'm gonna poke at is the psu, guys here rattle my cage over no name brand gold psu
winged tinsel
I’m already over my budget though...
winter marsh
a bronze on a new video card might be asking a bit much
gritty zenith
try to cop the R5 5600x it will be $299 on release
there are good psu that can handle your build for cheaper
winged tinsel
Really?
winter marsh
The 2nd issue is I noticed you are building on a mATX form factor
winter marsh
Now this same issue killed my Msi RTX 3080 purchase on launch day, how long is this video card and how long does your case allow?
gritty zenith
wait wait
matx shouldn't kill the radeon 6000
amd purposely kept it standard lol
winter marsh
case stats are Maximum Video Card Length
344 mm / 13.543"
which is 44mm over my case 😦
winter marsh
well two and three fan cards aren't made the same
foggy hazel
@gritty zenith matx is not a problem.
gritty zenith
yeah, but the 6800 is a far smaller card
winter marsh
just get the gpu length before you purchase it
foggy hazel
@gritty zenith i am confirming the previous statement :) not saying you are wrong :)
winter marsh
I'm personally stuck with 300mm cards
foggy hazel
we know @winter marsh, you bring it up everytime you talk about GPU's
coral kiln
if i get an r5 5600x it wouldnt work on a tomahawk b450 motherboard right?
winter marsh
less if i add a front mounted radiator
gritty zenith
yes
next year
msi confirmed they will be updating all 400 series for support
but next year
foggy hazel
@coral kiln we wont know IF they plan to support it until at the earliest january 2021
gritty zenith
so patience child
winter marsh
@coral kiln just make sure you get the bios update
coral kiln
no need to select a new one
@coral kiln just make sure you get the bios update
ye i still didnt buy it yet
stoic island
Wait, if you haven't bought the board, a B550 board might be a better purchase.
foggy hazel
@coral kiln if you are building a new system now, there is no reason to buy a b450 chipset board, just go with a b550
stoic island
For US market, a B550m pro4 at 105$ is quite a nice board.
gritty zenith
Wait, if you haven't bought the board, a B550 board might be a better purchase.
@stoic island i would lean more towards is rather than might lol
stoic island
@gritty zenith dunno, gotta be safe in case of random weird context :p
winter marsh
As I've stated before just shop around for the best price
gritty zenith
you're ripping yourself off if you are buying anything lower than a b550 atm
stoic island
Maybe they're in North Korea and B450 max is the only board around or something
Who knows
stoic island
Need more context to be confident
gritty zenith
lol yeah
winter marsh
brb
stoic island
SR... Saudi reals?
coral kiln
and gpu with a 3070 probably
stoic island
Newegg ships to saudi directly?
coral kiln
yes
stoic island
Oh nice, didn't know that.
gritty zenith
@winged tinsel my suggestion is either getting rid of the HDD in the list or going down to 16gb of 3600 cl16 to accommodate an 80+ gold psu
coral kiln
but the case and psu are not free shipping
which annoys me
thats like 100USD on shipping
100 USD taxes
stoic island
@coral kiln take a look at this for pricing rq
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b550m-pro4/p/N82E16813157939
gritty zenith
i ordered a computer desk and was mad that it didn't have free prime shipping
winged tinsel
I went to 16 gb and got an atx motherboard and working on a better psu
foggy hazel
@coral kiln the following is based on feedback from other users in the same region: Please do yourself a favour and look into what happens IF something does not work
stoic island
That's true, RMA process for "global" consumers get really weird.
foggy hazel
not only that
stoic island
And also, I'd personally get a different PSU and Case.
foggy hazel
just DOA
coral kiln
k i replaced with a 550 as its cheaper lol
foggy hazel
ram is also flat out bad for that platform
gritty zenith
its funny bc mitx is the most expensive across the board, then matx is like more expensive budget boards, but cheaper feature boards, and then atx is cheaper budget boards but more expensive feature boards at least from what i've seen
stoic island
Yea, RMA process for handling DoA, or is there something else with DoA?
foggy hazel
thinking of DOA in the sense of "here is your part, its crushed"
gritty zenith
lmao
foggy hazel
that kind of DoA
coral kiln
that would suck
stoic island
Ah
foggy hazel
it would suck even more IF you had to pay return shipping on it @coral kiln
gritty zenith
i was thinking of getting an msi gpu support bracket for when i ship the PC im gonna sell, bc its only like $30 and offers extra protection, but im not sure
winged tinsel
@gritty zenith Hey can you help me find a better psu that isn’t too expensive?
stoic island
I'm gonna continue on the "part selection" part while Naed continues with the specifics
foggy hazel
so, as i said, do yourself the favour and Please look into what the rules are on that
stoic island
Take a look at this for the case
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054?&quicklink=true
@winged tinsel what exactly are you looking for?
winged tinsel
80 plus gold psu
gritty zenith
what's your budget for your psu?
stoic island
650w Phanteks amp comes to mind.
foggy hazel
@winged tinsel keep in mind, you are skimping on the part that drives everything.... do you think that is smart?
gritty zenith
yeah first and foremost you need at least 650w
winged tinsel
My gpu is a 6800
coral kiln
Z
so, as i said, do yourself the favour and Please look into what the rules are on that
where would i find the rules on that?
gritty zenith
lol
stoic island
@winged tinsel check out the 650w and 750w Phanteks amp.
foggy hazel
@coral kiln have a serious chat with @fresh garden
coral kiln
oh ok
foggy hazel
they are the ones that can actually answer things like that :)
foggy hazel
you are very welcome :)
stoic island
I'll go grab ram and psu suggestions now
coral kiln
ok ty
stoic island
gritty zenith
stoic island
coral kiln
i think that prices should go lower next year on may-august right?
coral kiln
parts
foggy hazel
@coral kiln no? why would they specifically be lower at that point?
coral kiln
beacuse the new parts would have released and stock for them is in great availability?
gritty zenith
uh pc parts from my understanding dont get their prices cut not for the time of year it is or even if there is something way better released
coral kiln
uh pc parts from my understanding dont get their prices cut not for the time of year it is or even if there is something way better released
i mean at stock availability
winter marsh
Okay back and reading
gritty zenith
and not 3x the mark up from ebay relisting
so instead of buying an rtx 3080 for $1500 you'd be able to buy one for its actual $700 price
coral kiln
ok so technically the 3070 price is going to stay the same once stock is available
winter marsh
only resellers mark up video cards prices
gritty zenith
its not "cheaper" its just the right price
foggy hazel
@coral kiln none of that would make them go down in price
coral kiln
3070*
foggy hazel
@winter marsh that is flat out wrong.
any site will adjust their prices as the market allows
winter marsh
I know you love scalpers @foggy hazel
gritty zenith
not just scalpers though, naed is right
foggy hazel
@winter marsh there is "how the market works" and then there is what you are talking about.
stoic island
Hm
gritty zenith
i've seen pc part prices blown far out of proportion in actual websites due to availability and demand
stoic island
Did I not link the 550w version?
gritty zenith
i've seen the R5 2600 go for like $300 before
stoic island
Oh boy that's fun
winter marsh
I'd never buy a video card from Amazon or Ebay due to the jacked up prices
stoic island
I'll give you some more suggestions to work off of then
gritty zenith
I'd never buy a video card from Amazon or Ebay due to the jacked up prices
@winter marsh I bought a mini rtx 2060 for $300 off ebay brand new from newegg when everywhere else it was $400
you just gotta look
winter marsh
100 USD in shipping fees?
gritty zenith
oof
coral kiln
customs is like 25-50 USD more
winter marsh
As have I but it depends on the component and retailer
gritty zenith
yeah, but its not like ebay and amazon are always rip offs
stoic island
Welp, this is overkill, but can you tell me what you see with this?
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-750-gold-ssr-750fm-750w/p/N82E16817151201
coral kiln
ye one sec ill see what it gives
gritty zenith
bc shipping from newegg
coral kiln
foggy hazel
@winter marsh you are missing that it is shipping to the middle east.
still roostBOT
Razorback360#1116 has been warned
winter marsh
None of this crap is acceptable
coral kiln
hmm i shouldve remmeberd no bad words
gritty zenith
lmao
coral kiln
remembered*
gritty zenith
because those are actual scalpers selling an out of stock card
i thought we were talking about stuff that is actually available
smh
stoic island
Eek that seems like a high price
waxen obsidian
Wassap
gritty zenith
lmao don't matter though, the price is right, rtx 3080 performs the same as rtx 3090 anyway 
waxen obsidian
Idek
coral kiln
ill see one sec
winter marsh
From what I understand the Middle East has cases and components not sold anywhere else. Now what was that sketchy retailers name again?
waxen obsidian
I can’t wait to see RX 5800s
stoic island
Reason being the 450w only comes with a single pcie 8 pin power cable, limiting upgradability a lot.
coral kiln
From what I understand the Middle East has cases and components not sold anywhere else. Now what was that sketchy retailers name again?
AliExpress?
waxen obsidian
6000 series
still roostBOT
Razorback360#1116 has been warned
stoic island
I don't think there's any middle east specific retailers..?
coral kiln
not again
winter marsh
That was one of them but I believe there is another.
stoic island
Unless you mean middle of the east as in China >:p
stoic island
(AliExpress is Chinese)
coral kiln
That was one of them but I believe there is another.
we have many sketchy online shops
shein
namshi
winter marsh
No I order from China, takes forever to arrive
stoic island
Welp, those might have some fun stuff
coral kiln
are there any free shipping cases and psu?
stoic island
You'll be able to change your nickname once you're a regular btw
coral kiln
rn a 100USD is on shipping
stoic island
We can't see the free shipping for your location from our end
stoic island
So we can only pass suggestions onwards for you to look at
foggy hazel
@coral kiln whats the shipping like from Germany for you?
coral kiln
i think expensive as well
winter marsh
@coral kiln Razorback isn't a 40k Spacemarine reference is it?
coral kiln
give me and example icon
@coral kiln Razorback isn't a 40k Spacemarine reference is it?
i got the name from warframe
not that
uneven mist
im looking for parts for my new pc im going a b550 route. Should i be going for a b550 aorus elite or a b550 aorus pro (ATX)
coral kiln
i played hawken for a bit
winter marsh
Its alive on console but dead on pc
uneven mist
rip anyone gonna answer?
winter marsh
@uneven mist do you have a build list or need suggestions?
uneven mist
5 3600x, 16gb 3600Mhz, 1660 Super (I have right now Im hoping to get my hands on a rtx 3070 tho) and idk b550 aorus pro or b550 aorus elite
thats barebones of it
ill have atleast 1 nvme ssd and
winter marsh
okay first thing you'll need is a good psu to power it
vital warren
650 is good
uneven mist
im just stuck on the motherboard
aorus elite or aorus pro
the pro could be better because it has room for another nvme ssd
and the reason im going b550 is because i want room for improvement like if i ever wanna upgrade
winter marsh
thats a good ballpark but avoid the bronze psu and make sure its at least a 8 pin cpu and two 6+2 or 8 pin video card connectors for the new gpu
winter marsh
I have a no name brand gold modular psu these guys love to harp on
uneven mist
whats ur guys opinion b550 aorus pro or elite?
oh and whats a good aio for the 3600x
on the cheaper side for the aio
winter marsh
Okay unless you are overclocking you don't need a aio
uneven mist
i will be oc it
vital warren
arctic liquid freezer ii
uneven mist
240s is good right?
winter marsh
unless top mounted a aio will reduce your gpu space in the case
uneven mist
or
vital warren
oh you can’t send links
uneven mist
oh
uneven mist
Phanteks P500A DRGB / Phanteks P500A Non-RGB
i believe the drgb comes with more fans so will probs get that
A 360 would fit but idk
vital warren
the drgb fits a 360mm aio
uneven mist
im tryna keep the cost lower so where i can save i will
vital warren
the 360mm arctic liquid freezer is like $120 usually
winter marsh
435mm
uneven mist
is the 360 necessary?
uneven mist
im new to oc so i wont be pushing it hard at all
winter marsh
Its a nice looking case
vital warren
a 240mm aio where you can fit a 360mm just looks odd to me
uneven mist
tru that
vital warren
how much is that case? guessing $100
uneven mist
the extra bit on the aio is kinda triggering me xd
idk its on the more expensive side but i think it will be worth
winter marsh
thats because the 360 is stacking deeper in the case if front mounted
uneven mist
i know this sounds weird but this is all so much more expensive because im australian xd i know it doesnt make sense for me to be on a newegg server but anyways
winter marsh
info is info
winter marsh
@vital warren where are you?
uneven mist
actually should i get like a 128gb nvme for windows, a 512gb for games and like 2tb hdd for bulk?
or just get a 1tb and partition it
winter marsh
Well I don't know your regional markup for prices, but I do know from my 40k hobby it gets expensive
uneven mist
40k hobby lmao
winter marsh
Warhammer 40k
uneven mist
what 1tb nvme ssd do i get
coral kiln
i just need free shipping on case and powersupply
winter marsh
I don't know why people buy NVME over SSD anyway.
uneven mist
hgih speeds
coral kiln
but none of the ones i like/need are free shipping
sullen spoke
Popular nvme rn: mp34, sn750, sx8200 pro
winter marsh
in operation that isn't even noticeable
sullen spoke
Nvme is very nice for boot drive
winter marsh
Its just new tech that's dropped in price
google hdd vs ssd vs nvme and you'll see what I mean
youtube and it will be as clear as day
sullen spoke
Not all are equal, there are many different specs in a drive
winter marsh
anyway brb trying to stay awake 😛
uneven mist
what type of specs you have @winter marsh
coral kiln
well you could store games on an hdd
and when u want to play
move the game you currently play over to ssd
when you finish the game /get bored of it
move it back
thats what i plan to do
uneven mist
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dNjFGq i own a 1660 super (hoping to get my hands on a rtx 3070)
winter marsh
oh I have a Asus x570 plus gaming wifi, 3600xt, Team Group 32gb"4x8" ddr4 3600mhz, 850watt psu, 2tb ssd, 8tb hhd
sullen spoke
That would be a pain, most people would not trouble themselves to do that. Easier just to keep it on the hdd
All os and apps go to ssd
winter marsh
for vid i am stuck on my gtx 1060 6gb
uneven mist
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dNjFGq i own a 1660 super (hoping to get my hands on a rtx 3070)
winter marsh
@sullen spoke only my media and files go to the hhd
uneven mist
anything i should change?
winter marsh
but now I am gonna tell you what everyone will tell you, wait for the 5600x release, either the 3600x prices will drop or buy the 5600x instead
sullen spoke
If a 3600 is cheaper by a bit you can go with that as the 3600x does not have a major boost really, I’m not sure about that cooler, might opt for a air, or if you really want to cut cost just use stock as it is adequate, don’t know much about the psu but you can check that in the tier list pinned
That 1660 super also look very expensive, but if you it buying that than fine
uneven mist
psu i just looked for on that was gold and 650+ and the cooler someone else recomended i was looking at a 240 cooler master one personally but idk
winter marsh
I was thinking about dropping the nvme for ssd to save money
winter marsh
@uneven mist https://youtu.be/V3AMz-xZ2VM
sullen spoke
I would stick with nvme, you can go with sn750 or mp34 as cheaper options but ssds are not too expensive nowadays
uneven mist
im hoping i get a rtx 3070 and then i can sell my 1660 super which will be able to fund for some of my build
sullen spoke
And there are many other factors to a psu than wattage and 80+ rating hence why there is a tier list easy for people to read
uneven mist
xd
in future ill probs by sleeved cables because stock look so bad
but for now im focusing on performance before looks
winter marsh
okay brb and watch that video
uneven mist
@winter marsh one problem witrh the video the guy h as a Gigabyte Z370p D3 as his motherboard if i buy a b550, it has gen 4 which means it can use a ssds full capability
sullen spoke
If you get a pcie 4.0 nvme drive
sullen spoke
Looks fine to me
uneven mist
idk i could always just get a ssd
coral kiln
coral kiln
expense
sullen spoke
Something I would more consider limiting is using a pcie 4.0 on a 3.0 mobo or using a sata m.2 drive
coral kiln
too expense
winter marsh
@sullen spoke Actually that's not true, if I remember correctly you can only use a limited number of pci gen4 devices, which means you can create a conflict between your video card and nvme.
uneven mist
your better of gettign a gold with them specs
coral kiln
the processor going to become a r5 5600x
uneven mist
yes then definetly a gold cert
sullen spoke
Depends on board
winter marsh
You are better off using a gen 3 nvme and leaving gen 4 clear for your video card
coral kiln
or a gpu from the new 6000 series
uneven mist
alright im just gonna leave my pc how it is
sullen spoke
I haven’t heard that before but I’ve not looked at the new boards much, anyway not many people really need the pcie 4.0 speeds
winter marsh
But that issue may have been addressed by now...
uneven mist
yeah the only reeason u would need like 4.0 speeds is like for video editing
even then not that nescessary
winter marsh
I think it came up in tech channels regarding gen 4 devices
sullen spoke
Honestly gpus are still fine on 3.0, even the newer ones seem to be fine, but it’s something to keep an eye on in the future
uneven mist
^^
winter marsh
as for the gold spec psu, if its the same tech as my old r/c hobbies esc.
uneven mist
can u explain what u mean by 40k warhammer is ur hobbie like what exactly is that?
winter marsh
that means the psu modulates power on mosfets to produce stable power
Oh 40K is a futuristic table top war game big all over the world that's spawned alot of pc games as well
uneven mist
ok
winter marsh
pc games started with the Dawn of War series I, II, and III which flopped
its is as expense to get in to as buying a high end pc
the Razorback is a Spacemarine support tank
I'm busy collecting the Nuns with Guns, plus four more marine chapters.
winter marsh
I hate Corsair psu, I was smart enough to warranty the last one I bought and refunded it for a EVGA
little osprey
Any sales on the gigabyte g32qc?
coral kiln
i just need a good gold cheap reliable 500 watt PSU
winter marsh
But guys I'm off to watch old Toho Godzilla and Gamera movies til I fall asleep
uneven mist
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240R Addressable RGB AIO Liquid Cooler or EK Waterblocks AIO Liquid CPU Cooler 240mm D-RGB
someone pls choose for me
winter marsh
@coral kiln try Raidmax semi modular
winter marsh
@uneven mist be sure to check Cooler Masters ARGB compatibility with the mobo.
uneven mist
wait so check that the rgb will work with my mobo?
winter marsh
@coral kiln Raidmax Vortex Series?
coral kiln
all out of stock as well
here is the site im going to buy the PSU from
(all other parts are very expensive on here)
winter marsh
@uneven mist Yes, Cooler Masters is aftermarket and not all ARGB is made the same. Worse case you'll require a controller.
uneven mist
oof ok
winter marsh
I have a CM cpu cooler in a Zalman s4 plus case. Zalman's controller doesn't support CM so the fan is blue and unrecognized by Zalman's rgb bloatware.
On my Asus x570 I have a AMD Wraith Prism plugged into the ARGB and it works fine.
@coral kiln I see, I'll search it based on your budget..
coral kiln
ok thanks
budget is like 400 SAR for PSU
gold
500 watt or more
best price 300 or lower
winter marsh
brb
@coral kiln GAMDIAS Astrape M1-650W RGB Power Supply,100% Japanese Capacitors, with 80 PLUS certified | ASTRAPE M1-650W
winter marsh
Gamdias Kratos P1-650G 650W ATX12V v2.4 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Non-Modular Active PFC Power Supply with Built-in RGB Lighting Effects and Addressable LEDs | Kratos P1-650G
coral kiln
1st one isnt gold
uneven mist
@winter marsh im having some trouble tryna work out some pricing for ram rn
the ram i want theres to sets but different timings
coral kiln
OH the 2nd one hits the right spots
uneven mist
nice
winter marsh
its the ram timings, there is a definition for it but I've been off campus a few years
coral kiln
i hope it has free shipping
winter marsh
brb
winter marsh
Lol
uneven mist
Im having big amounts of trouble
my brain is confuseld
Basically i want Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16gb 3600MHz
BUTTT
still roostBOT
quak#0020 has been warned
winter marsh
Okay back
uneven mist
idk if that ram is compatible with a b550
bec it says x570 not b550\
and no one on anyforums has said so
winter marsh
normally ddr manufacturers will declare compatibility on the product in it's description
uneven mist
yeah it doesnt say anything about b550s so rip
i cant find any ram with b550 thats 3600mhz amd compatible
nvm pcpartpicker to the rescure
its compatible
winter marsh
but anything ryzen compatible is just that, doesn't matter what chipset it is however, older chipsets say b350 a limited in their mhz speed capacitity
so go back to your mobo specs to see what it supports
uneven mist
yeah i did and it supports it
winter marsh
then you have no issues
winter marsh
The only difference between x570 and b550 is a few features, b550 is meant to be more affordable
winter marsh
x570 will typically include more vrm's for over clocking
winter marsh
its the same difference in video cards, say a founders edition versus a Super or TI
winter marsh
it's like 3.5 with a self oc of 4.0
TI cards are next to Nvidia Titans
Supers are just below a TI
uneven mist
ok
i know thta u never/barely ever put a super in a laptop bc it has way to much power draw compared to a ti
winter marsh
well labtops have their own scaled cpu and gpu's that aren't completely atx cards
uneven mist
should i get 650 or just get 700
winter marsh
okay the 3600-5600x all draw 65 watts tdp
uneven mist
nvm im just gonna get 650w
https://www.ple.com.au/Products/641226/Cooler-Master-MWE-650W-80PLUS-Gold-Fully-Modular-Power-Supply
the ports on that are all correct right?
winter marsh
a rtx 3070 requires a 600 to 750 psu but is said to draw 265 watts, thhis wattage will increase with the gpu load
uneven mist
thats if i get a 3070 i entered a giveaway for one if i dont get it im sticking with my 1660 super for a while
winter marsh
most popular gpu software is Msi Afterburner, but I prefere Gpu Tweak2
winter marsh
clock speeds are listed in the card specs
uneven mist
ik idk what to oc my card to tho
winter marsh
typically 1500mhz or more standard, 1700mhz gaming
card partners like Asus, Msi, Gigbyte set their own standards
still roostBOT
quak#0020 has been warned
winter marsh
I normally set cards to gaming
uneven mist
i dont have 1750$ ):
winter marsh
yeah i know
uneven mist
were u located?
winter marsh
South Florida USA with President Donald Duck
uneven mist
nice
winter marsh
no, we have bugs, toads, frogs, gators, and pythons
winter marsh
lol
uneven mist
sharks
winter marsh
no bug zapper big enough
uneven mist
inndeeeeed
winter marsh
I learn to stay out of the ocean as a teen
winter marsh
giant fish and sharks I'll pass
winter marsh
fishing and pc's
winter marsh
Anyway nice to meet you, I hope I haven't offended the tech gods of the channels
winter marsh
well i used to play SWG as a rebel, so I wasn't well liked in pvp
but this icon and name helps me find old friends on discord
uneven mist
lol
winter marsh
star wars galaxies sandbox mmo
rebels and imperial players in a constant state of war
it was annoying
anyway I'm off, I'll tell you about the private servers later
urban light
Should I get 6800xt or 3080
Paired with the 5900x
If the 6800xt which one I’m not getting the fe
small osprey
6800xt msi/ asus
urban light
Ok thanks
deft zephyr
anyone know when the 3070 gonna be back on stock 😔
deep skiff
n o
little osprey
im looking to locally host a minecraft server, i was going to go with a simple pc with like a Ryzen 5 2600 and rx 570, is there something that would be better for the price (around 600-700)
native plover
I have a parts list around 700
its about $730
I'm building this
@little osprey
arctic jungle
@little osprey no
bad
very bad
minecraft server? i'll throw together a build
what's the budget
that's a very bad parts list for the price range for a minecraft server
native plover
🤷♂️
little osprey
oh the budget is around 600-700 usd
little osprey
no, i was just going to go with that unless there was a better pc for the price
west hollow
i5 9400f or a ryzen 5 3600 for gaming which is better?
west hollow
non technical terms because i’m a noob at pcs
arctic jungle
almost done with build
little osprey
oke
arctic jungle
u can edit storage a bit @little osprey
make sure to allocate a full 28 gb of ram when u run the server
alright I gtg homework
little osprey
oh thanks
jagged ember