#building-and-recc-chat

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slim escarp
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I think I found the best looking budget case

stoic island
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I dissagree

crude rose
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is a 1tb SSD usually enough for systems and programs?

stoic island
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Cougar MX330-g air

slim escarp
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I think it’s 50 dollars on Newegg too

clear cradle
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is a 1tb SSD usually enough for systems and programs?
@crude rose wow nice thats ok

stoic island
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neo air is usually like 65$ I thought

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lemme see

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yea 60$ on sale

crude rose
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adding it up, the pc would cost $1708 right now and $300 for other stuff

slim escarp
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But the fans are always blue the other case you can change colors

stoic island
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heh

slim escarp
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Cougar MX330-g air

fringe kayak
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should i wait for the 5000 series or get an i7-10700k for my rtx 3080?

slim escarp
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Wrong paste sry

crude rose
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wait I think

slim escarp
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I would have to buy a back fan tho where you don’t have to for yours

stoic island
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I still like mx330-g air better

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I'm not a rgb guy

slim escarp
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I don’t like rainbow I just like how you can change the single colors that’s why I said I want a cheap led fans

crude rose
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is RGB and Chroma(?) different?

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chroma cycles through colors right

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oh nevermind

cursive wharf
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Neo case feels big for sake of being big, not for supporting more fan space

crude rose
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is there a difference between "Intel 665p 1 TB SSD" and "Team MP34 1 TB SSD"? the Team MP34 is more expensive

slim escarp
stoic island
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what about mx330-g

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@crude rose big dif :D

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there is reason I used mp34 instead of 665p

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665p is QLC and rated for 2000/2000mb/s read write

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MP34 is TLC and rated for 3000/2700mb/s read write

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:)

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TLC>QLC for speed and endurance

inland parrot
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is this true

stoic island
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didn't I tell you about agesa 1.0.8 already

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I'm pretty sure I did

mighty bobcat
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The IO dies on the 5000 series is the same so should be drop in ready, and if the board needs an update it should still be able to do it (in theory)

stoic island
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@inland parrot it's pretty old news

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:P

mighty bobcat
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watching the 3070 FE GN review now lol

stoic island
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nice

inland parrot
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thanks i know its old new this was posted 3 weeks ago

stoic island
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ye

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I've been talking about it, thought I told you already

mighty bobcat
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I can't wait for the reviews - I really want to know lol

mighty bobcat
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looks like the 3070 is within single digit percentages on stock 2080ti, Strix 2080ti can beat with an OC so take that for you build info what you will

rustic sandal
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Yes but price point 500 vs 1200 lol

ebon summit
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@stoic island

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I found this on newegg on sale

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Is this a good bye for starting off? Remember my hardest game to run is r6

stoic island
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go away

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build it yourself

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:P

ebon summit
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LOL

atomic epoch
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R6 is easy to run

ebon summit
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Yeah

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Thats the hardest game

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Ill have to run

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Thats why I'm thinking the 1660 super would be more then good enough

stoic island
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@atomic epoch then try to get 360fps 4k

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I'm waiting

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:P

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idc what other people say, I see 2060 as mininum for constant 144 for siege

winged tinsel
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Does anyone know ways to get parts for cheaper?

stoic island
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wdym

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swap parts around

ebon summit
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The 2060 prebuilt is 1k 😭

stoic island
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@ebon summit so you build it yourself

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for 800$

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:P

ebon summit
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Is it possible

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I honestly would

stoic island
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why is it not

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I go make list

ebon summit
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But then I have to buy a windows

stoic island
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no

ebon summit
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Then a adapter

stoic island
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windows doesn't even need to be activated

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free

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or 5$ ebay key

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and what kinda adapter do you even need?

ebon summit
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Wifi

stoic island
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motherboards can have wifi

ebon summit
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oop

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but then the building and cable management part

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im nimble

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And slow

stoic island
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to start off

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I can shave money off as needed

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@ebon summit >:P

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I'm tired

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I go soon

ebon summit
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842 not bad

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Now a adapter

stoic island
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it doesn't need one

mighty bobcat
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that board has wifi

stoic island
ebon summit
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Ohh okay

stoic island
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it has built in

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lmao

atomic epoch
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just wait until I get my hands on a 3090 lol

ebon summit
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Then how would building it be like

atomic epoch
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and if that new ryzen is good oh boy

stoic island
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I can even shave more money off too

ebon summit
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I am open to building i was originally going to until I heard story's

stoic island
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Look

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if you run into problems

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come here

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we fix them

mighty bobcat
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I think the thing to remember is minimal force and RTM

stoic island
mighty bobcat
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there are a LOT of good build guides on youtube

stoic island
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minimal force is "if isn't going in, it's not supposed to go there"

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for everything other than the 24pin

mighty bobcat
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Bitwitt, paulshardware, robeytech

stoic island
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the 24pin needs force to be pushed in

mighty bobcat
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true

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the eps 12v can also be a challenge depending on the plug at times

stoic island
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usually nah

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it's only a challenge if you really care about aesthetics

mighty bobcat
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lol

stoic island
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@ebon summit oh yea btw, cable management literally doesn't matter for anything other than looks

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it doesn't hurt airflow and performance from quik ltt testing

mighty bobcat
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But most things have a key'd (its made to go one way) socket so it shouldn't need much force - but the main 24pin can be difficult

winter iris
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@stoic island u there ?

slim escarp
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ARESGAME Power Supply 650W is this a good psu all of the reviews on redit, Amazon and everything are amazing and I’ve seen not one bad thing about it so far

somber fox
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@slim escarp double check stats and output over time

mortal garnet
winter iris
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@slim escarp hey man

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@slim escarp remember me ? and my problem ?

slim escarp
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Yeah

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I think

winter iris
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there something found and wanna share it with u

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i said before that my mobo b450 aorus m and i used x4 ram of 16

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this model number of ram is > CMW32GX4M2C3200C16

slim escarp
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Oh yeah

winter iris
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that mean this kind of ram only work as dual not quad channel right ?

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cuz of 2C ?

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CMW32GX4M ( 2C ) 3200c16

slim escarp
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Um idk give me 1 sec

winter iris
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that mean only works as dual not quad ?

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k

slim escarp
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Yeah it only works as dual rip man

winter iris
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beside that thing ,,i found that my Mobo B450m with Ryzen 5 2600 supporting Memory i opened the sheet and past the model number of ram and did not found it ,,,is that mean my Motherboard not supporting this ram model that not compatible with current CPU ?

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@slim escarp 😦 😦 that might be the reason of BSOD most of time ?

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like this errors might be happened cuz of that ?

Errors that i keep getting it
1st Stop Code : page fault in nonpaged area

2nd Stop Code :irql_not_less_or_equal

3rd Stop Code : Driver irql_not_less_or_equal ( What Failed USBXHCI.SYS)

slim escarp
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I did some research and I found that even if your mobo supports it you will have some issues with quad channel because it was made for dual but this was also from a review so idk if it’s correct

winter iris
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can u check this and tell to confirm ?

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from corsair site

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CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 says that config as 2 and not optimized for AMD

slim escarp
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What does amd optimized mean

winter iris
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based on my poor knowledge when something it optimized for thing it works smoothly

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so after u check

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this type of ram only work as dual and no way to work as 4

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as per their sheet they posted on their website ?

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@slim escarp ?

slim escarp
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I’m pretty sure yes it only works at dual and since it’s not optimized for amd

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I think there is a chance that your mobo might not even really support your ram if that is what this means

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Wait what mobo do you have

winter iris
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B450 Aorus M

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@slim escarp ?

slim escarp
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Maybe bad news according to this it isn’t confirmed that they are compatible

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They still might

winter iris
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so for safest fix atm

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removing 2 rams

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and using it for now as dual channel

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right ?

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only 32

slim escarp
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Yeah try only using dual channel and tell me how that goes

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If it still doesn’t work will try and figure it out

winter iris
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yah gonna start to sell it

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as it's fresh new

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1 week of use

slim escarp
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Wait so it’s working fine

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With dual

winter iris
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since not supported by mobo not supported as x4 not supported by CPU control as per Mobo sheet

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@slim escarp well did not check yet i just run it as dual

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before talking to u

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cuz i got BSOD in mid of stream tonight

slim escarp
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Wait was that during when you had dual

winter iris
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nah during quad

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i removed 2 and started to digging about that problem in internet then went here to discuses with u

slim escarp
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Ok yeah try out like a day with dual and if it works fine then problem fixed if it doesn’t well do our best to figure it out

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That’s stupid that it doesn’t support quad

winter iris
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@slim escarp yah,,,,and if i found good deal to sell it without losing money gonna do

slim escarp
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How much did you buy them for

winter iris
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@slim escarp once again man thank you so much for this assistance

slim escarp
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Wait one thing what do you stream on

winter iris
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hm...well i bought it using EGP ,,,Egyptian pound

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hold gonna convert it into dollars

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Streaming on twitch and facebook and editing my vid and upload on youtube and short highlights on tiktok

slim escarp
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What’s your twitch

winter iris
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click on my pic and u will find the links

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easy to copy and past

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if u cant find it

leaden lion
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O wow

winter iris
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hold one get u the link

slim escarp
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100 followers good for you

winter iris
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@slim escarp thanks ❤️

slim escarp
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@leaden lion sire

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Sure

foggy hazel
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you are advertising your own server.

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not allowed

winter iris
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@slim escarp 300$ for this x4 rams with delivering from US to Egypt

leaden lion
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I’ll delete

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And take it to dms

slim escarp
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Oh are you selling all 4 sticks of your ram

winter iris
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@slim escarp if i found good deal gonna sell it locally

slim escarp
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Oh ok

winter iris
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so tell me 300$ is good price for those 4 rams ?

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with delivery ?

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@slim escarp ?

leaden lion
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Yo

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Talk in dms

slim escarp
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I’m you can but the two pack new for 143 on Amazon

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Um not I’m

winter iris
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if u live in US it good deal

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but for me in egpyt

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u need to put delivery and fees costs

slim escarp
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Oh yeah I guess that is a good deal then

winter iris
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Alright 🙂 am rly glad that i had this conversation with u ,,, such peaceful feeling once u can figure out what is the problem and what the reason for that .

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Thanks again And special thanks for owners of this server that providing such great thing to get help from Experts

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alright then ,,,now am testing 2 sticks gonna keep u tuned if any thing happened

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and give u final results

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for now ,,,cya and goodnight it's 6 am here atm

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@slim escarp byebye

slim escarp
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Bye

winter iris
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@slim escarp so 1 important thing ,,,that problem about compatible thing causes BSOD ?

mighty bobcat
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I think the biggest thing with the QVL list for ram is the boards save deep level setting for those kits, or those specific kits were tested on the boards. the other thing is you are using a 4x kit most consumer level chips only support dual channel but a matched set of 4 ram sticks will have better/more compatible timings than two sets of 2

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it could be a bard ram stick, bad board or a bad controller

toxic widget
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What do y’all think is better the b550 f gaming or the b550 mag tomahawk?

slim escarp
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I think

mighty bobcat
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could also be the profile not loading right but if you set the timings manually it would be stable - rare but has happened

slim escarp
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Yeah @mighty bobcat knows more than me I’m kinda new here so listen to him

mighty bobcat
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just had a LOT more experience with ram issues I think

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and I researched the hell out of ram on FM2+

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cause it couldn't run at 2000 but 1866 was stable

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat damn seem this kind of issue just pain in a$$

mighty bobcat
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yeah, best way to trouble shoot it is one stick at a time xmp off

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then if all 4 work with XMP, manually set the timings and see if anything goes bad

slim escarp
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Oh yeah I’m new here and I never even built a pc before but i try and help to the best of my ability

mighty bobcat
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whats the board/CPU/ram

slim escarp
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He has the b450 aorus m

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Idk cpu

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat i will start with current step it's removing 2 ramas since it config for 2 and use dual channel with xmp on
if still same problem gonna turn it off and check again
if still gonna sell this cuz am already mad from this stupid purchases i just did , but i got the lesson and that why i met u guys and learned me a lot of things TBH

mighty bobcat
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@toxic widget i think they are both good, depends more on asthetics

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also sometimes just a factory defualt bios reset then setting XMP can also work

toxic widget
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True, I really like the look of the f gaming a lot.

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat Mobo B450Aorus M - CPU Ryzen 5 2600 - Ram Model ( CMW32GX4M2C3200C16 )

mighty bobcat
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advantage for the tomahawk is the usb 3.2 gen2 header for the USB C front panel

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do you know what bios version is?

winter iris
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and to be with full vision the problem was i keep getting BSOD with this errors >>
1st Stop Code : page fault in nonpaged area
2nd Stop Code :irql_not_less_or_equal
3rd Stop Code : Driver irql_not_less_or_equal ( What Failed USBXHCI.SYS)

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@mighty bobcat

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@mighty bobcat yah

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F50

mighty bobcat
toxic widget
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advantage for the tomahawk is the usb 3.2 gen2 header for the USB C front panel
@mighty bobcat my case (NZXT h510i) has a usb c but I really have no use for usb type c tbh

mighty bobcat
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that almost reads like a USB Driver error

winter iris
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The Q is incompatible Rams causes this kind of errors ?

mighty bobcat
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K.L there is a F51 bios but doesnt look like there would be anythign close to that for a reason to update (aka don't yet)

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the ram isn't incompatible really

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it just means gigabyte didn't test and save specific deep level timing for that ram

winter iris
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so when i dont find support ram model in their website that mean they did not tested yet .

mighty bobcat
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Mostly yeah

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the XMP profile saved on ram sticks tells teh motherboard its basic speeds for items that it works best in, there are a LOT of lower level timings that cannot be saved on the ram

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the QVL list is usually a "we tested these and saved the deeper level speeds for them in the board" if I remember correctly

winter iris
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okay ,,, so if COrsair website says that ram model config ( 2 ) so only run as dual not quad unless problems happen ?

slim escarp
mighty bobcat
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the ram is made to run in dual channel, the CPU and motherboard only support dual channel

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the 4 sticks will work in dual channel mode because that is all the hardware will support

atomic epoch
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How should I go about picking a motherboard?
Purely for gaming, going intel i9-10900k or if the new Ryzen ends up being comparable Ima gonna go with that
RTX 3090 for the GPU

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat am confused now

mighty bobcat
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don't worry about quad channel

winter iris
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so should i use quad channel with XMP off ?

mighty bobcat
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Novey - My only concern would be the AresGame power supply

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I would recomend testing without XMP and update the chipset drivers from teh gigabyte link

slim escarp
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Look up the psu I bet the only thing you’ll find is it’s amazing and underpriced and will probably go up in price soon

mighty bobcat
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then if there are no more issues - try turning on XMP

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat alright

mighty bobcat
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Do you know the OEM?

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat so u telling me turning XMP off now and check and if it's fine back to XMP on again ?

slim escarp
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I spent like 30 minutes every single one of there psu is a 5 star from over 300 reviews and redit says amazing things on it it’s like the best budget psu out there

mighty bobcat
winter iris
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@ OEM ? nah

mighty bobcat
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test system

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if system is stable turn on XMP test again

winter iris
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@mighty bobcat okay

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@mighty bobcat Thanks man for help gonna do those steps and i will keep u tuned

atomic epoch
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How should I go about picking a motherboard?
Purely for gaming, going intel i9-10900k or if the new Ryzen ends up being comparable Ima gonna go with that
RTX 3090 for the GPU
@atomic epoch sorry just dont wanna get lost up there I'm going to sleep soon

mighty bobcat
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@slim escarp i dont see anything that would really bottleneck

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picking a motherboard really revolves around what you need, size of your case and how much expandability you want

slim escarp
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Ok so it’s a good build

mighty bobcat
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from what I can tell

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You could probably save a few on teh SSD but Evos are good

slim escarp
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I’ll get a new mobo when I upgrade my cpu because right now I’m only 14 and on a tight budget so I’m going cheap

atomic epoch
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I'm fine with waiting for some of these new parts now that cyberpunk got delayed again

mighty bobcat
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yeah, I've been slowly buying parts for a VR upgrade - have an SSD not using from another system, 850 watt psu, Be quiet Dark Base 700. waiting to see what the new AMD chips do - decided not to go intel just becuase of the overall added costs that TEND to come with it

mighty bobcat
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gl and I go pass out now

torpid belfry
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800$ budget builds?

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list

little osprey
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hey i’m new to this pc stuff and i don’t know much. i just want to find a pc with a budget of around 1200 that would run good fps on cod warzone and i play some rocket league as well so please let me know

languid nimbus
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@little osprey when are you planning on building?

little osprey
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well

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i don’t know maybe by the end of the year

languid nimbus
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Kk, driving, give me a bit and I’ll see if I can get one if I remember or I’m sure someone else will come along

little osprey
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alright

little leaf
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@little osprey just wait

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Come back later when buying parts

slim escarp
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@little osprey if you are still there I can help

little osprey
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yes im here

slim escarp
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Ok so 800 dollar budget

little leaf
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1200

little osprey
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1200

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ya

little leaf
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Moomoo

slim escarp
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Oh even better

little osprey
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yes

little leaf
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I would recommend comming back later

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Things change

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And amd is launching new cpus and gpus by the end of the year

slim escarp
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All perf or some perf some looks

little osprey
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hm

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perf?

slim escarp
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Oh yeah the ryzen 500

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5000

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And performance

little osprey
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well

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what do you mean looks

slim escarp
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I can make him a list with the new cpu the price was already released

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Like would you rather me get for instant a little bit better storage or a better looking case

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Like rgb and stuff

little osprey
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eh

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id rather have performance

slim escarp
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Ok

little osprey
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id say just a bit of good looks and mainly performance if possible

slim escarp
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Do you want me to build with new ryzen cpu or do you plan to build before that comes out

little osprey
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no clue what that even is

slim escarp
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When are you building this

little osprey
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not a clue yet

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just want a pc

slim escarp
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Ok

little osprey
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dont know how to build

slim escarp
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WiFi or Ethernet

little osprey
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wifi unfortunately

slim escarp
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It’s ok I have to do it too

little osprey
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ya

little leaf
little osprey
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hm

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is there any point in having a core i9 processor rather than a i7 for like modern warefare?

little leaf
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No

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Maybe 5% increases

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If you are near a microcenter we can maybe go intel

little osprey
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oh

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whats a microcenter

little leaf
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A store

little osprey
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oh

languid nimbus
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5600x + 3070 seems like it’s going to be a great duo honestly

slim escarp
little leaf
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No aio

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Ssd overpriced

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B550 pro vdh better

slim escarp
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Needs wifi

little leaf
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It does have wifi

slim escarp
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Oh ok

gloomy stone
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@twin bay very cool, you said you worked hard for it, that is commendable. what kind of work do you do?

little leaf
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Rgb ram bad

slim escarp
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How is it bad

little leaf
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Overpriced

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3600 better

little osprey
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is a cpu cooler necesary?

little leaf
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No

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Stock amd coolers good enough

little osprey
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is it even recomended whats the point of it

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oh it comes with them

languid nimbus
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They don’t do stock coolers after 3600 though iirc

little leaf
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Yes they do

languid nimbus
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Oh do they?

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Couldn’t remember

little leaf
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Up to 3900x

languid nimbus
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Woops, heard wrong then :p

little leaf
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They come with the wraith prism cooler

slim escarp
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What ssd should I get then

languid nimbus
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Gotcha. So their new cpu won’t come with cooler then.

little leaf
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Mp34

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Yes only 5600x

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P1 or sn750

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Mp34 preferably

little osprey
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so should i get an amd ryzen 7 3800x?

sturdy leaf
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Just wait till the new gen comes out

slim escarp
sturdy leaf
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Prices will drip

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Drop*

slim escarp
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How does this look

little osprey
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is it good for modern warefare

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lmao sorry i know nothing

little leaf
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I would recommend changing pau

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Psu

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I messed up psu

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Too

slim escarp
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What’s wrong with psu

sturdy leaf
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Probaly could go for a evga

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Cheaper

slim escarp
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Be probably will never need to upgrade

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He

languid nimbus
slim escarp
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The new 5600 I thought was going to be 300

little osprey
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wheres the cpu

sturdy leaf
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No cpu lol

slim escarp
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Didn’t come out yet

little osprey
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do i need a cpu

languid nimbus
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yeah, not out yet

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Yes

little osprey
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lmao probably why do i even ask

slim escarp
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I wish it was Christmas

languid nimbus
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Just couldn’t add it on that list I made, I’m on mobile and can’t figure out how to add custom part :p

slim escarp
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Go to custom part at the bottom

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Right above price

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I don’t even know if I should go to sleep now I have to wake up in 3 hours for school

sturdy leaf
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Isn’t it bad to put ur pc on carpet ?

little osprey
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so is this it

sturdy leaf
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Amazing build

slim escarp
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Yes because the psu fan will be clogged since it faces down

sturdy leaf
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Frick

languid nimbus
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Not that cpu

sturdy leaf
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I gotta put something under it then

little osprey
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oh and do i need two storages

sturdy leaf
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U think a notebook is good lol

little osprey
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which cpu should i use

sturdy leaf
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Just to put under it

slim escarp
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Yeah if you stack the pc on something like two books you should be fine

vague maple
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which cpu should i use
@little osprey depends on your budget

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and what other parts you have

little osprey
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well ill do 300

slim escarp
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Maybe 4 books

sturdy leaf
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Alr bet

little osprey
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for cpu

languid nimbus
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The 5600x comes out early November. I’d get that, but just depends how strict your budget is

vague maple
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ok

sturdy leaf
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Ima do that rn brb

vague maple
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do you want AMD or Intel

little osprey
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no clue whats the difference

slim escarp
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Whatever is cheaper at the time

vague maple
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The 5600x comes out early November. I’d get that, but just depends how strict your budget is
@languid nimbus don't recommend unknown cpus, we don't know how they're going to preform

languid nimbus
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I’d get that, after watching reviews

vague maple
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no clue whats the difference
@little osprey AMD has better value and more cores, while Intel is usually a bit more expensive but has decently better gaming performance

languid nimbus
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If it performs well

vague maple
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^

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AMD 5000 CPUs are RUMORED to be better than gaming than Intel, but it'll be very difficult to get them on the release date

little osprey
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which do u recomend

vague maple
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What are you using the system for?

little osprey
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modernwarefare, warzone, and rocketleague

vague maple
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ok

slim escarp
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I wish it was Christmas I would be out of school and I would finally have enough money to buy the parts for my pc

vague maple
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and you have a 300 dollar budget?

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for your cpu?

little osprey
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yes

vague maple
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ok

languid nimbus
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$1200 total budget cost

little osprey
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i could probably go to 1400

slim escarp
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Damn my max budget is 550 I’m broke

vague maple
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The i5-10600k is the best gaming CPU at that budget

slim escarp
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That’s after Christmas money

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I’m also 14 tho

vague maple
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However, I would recommend waiting for reviews of the 5600X, since it's 300 dollars as well and deciding if you want to get it

little osprey
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yea im definitely not gonna get my pc till like sometime in december so ill just be able to wait how that one works

vague maple
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Just a reminder

slim escarp
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I’ll get mine at the same time of you then

vague maple
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any parts list or recommendations that we give you will be outdated in a few weeks

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due to price changes, new hardware coming out etc

little osprey
#

how so

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oh

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shuld i just wait till late december or when would be best time when everything new is out

vague maple
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Late december is fine, 5000 Ryzen CPUs might be obtainable at that date

slim escarp
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Well for your price point the only thing that might change in my list is maybe the 1660 will be cheaper or maybe the 2600 will be cheaper

vague maple
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If you have a 1200 dollar budget

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Get the RTX 3070

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No question about that

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Reviews have showed that it crushes 1440p and 1080p

little osprey
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hmm

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so

slim escarp
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My budget is 550 so Ill get the 1650 super or maybe 1660 if price drops near Christmas

little osprey
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what r u gonna use ur pc for novey

vague maple
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If you're going to buy around December, it's worth checking out Black Friday

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You can get RAM/SSDs/PSUs for great deals

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Even motherboards and cases sometimes

little osprey
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hm okay

slim escarp
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3100 cpu, 1650 super gpu, A520 mobo,

vague maple
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That applies to both of you

slim escarp
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I would but I’m getting money during Christmas and if something doa

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Then my warranty will ware off

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I might check out psu tho because the evga one I’ll most likely get has a 3 year warranty for free

vague maple
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what psu are you getting?

slim escarp
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Evga br 500 I know it’s not great but when it fails it doesn’t fry your system and with the 3 year warranty it’ll be fine

vague maple
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that's fine

slim escarp
little osprey
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alright so ill just wait til sometime in december to look into it agin

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agian

vague maple
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mhmm

little osprey
#

i regret getting a mac

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i would never use it for gaming but jesus its so over priced even as a normal computr

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my macbook costed me 3k

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i hate myself.

vague maple
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3k?

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wtf

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could have gotten a sick gaming pc for that price

little osprey
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2.7 but ya

vague maple
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could have gotten a 3090 build kekw

little osprey
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ik man worst purchase ever tbh

vague maple
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mhmm

little osprey
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now it sets my pc budget down to 1400

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dang

vague maple
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tbf 1400 isn't bad

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you can get a 5000 series cpu and a 3000 series gpu for that price easily

little osprey
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ya but id rather spend 3k on a pc rather than on a macbook that i literally use for school

vague maple
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mhmm

little osprey
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wati

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whats a gpu

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maybe graphics card

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maube

vague maple
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yeah lol

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Graphics Processing Unit

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aka graphics card

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it can also mean a igpu, which is an integrated graphics card in the cpu

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but those are awful for gaming

little osprey
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ah ok i understand

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alright 1400 isnt too bad then

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so this is just for the time being but im gonna swap the cpu i have in there for a 5000

vague maple
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unknown case and there's no reason to go microatx

desert gulch
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And 80mm fan kekw

vague maple
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lmao didn't even notice the 80mm fan

desert gulch
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Lol

stark tangle
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if they don't know what a graphics card is i think they may need help, ya think? XD

desert gulch
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Yup

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Well at least they didnt buy a 2080ti xD

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Gotta take that low blow

vague maple
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lmao

stark tangle
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wait unless im dumb aren't they completely missing a cpu cooler? and why only one case fan in a mesh case?

vague maple
#

wait unless im dumb aren't they completely missing a cpu cooler? and why only one case fan in a mesh case?
@stark tangle the 3600 comes with a stock cooler that's adequate

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and the masterbox comes with 3 fans

little osprey
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yo guys

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how much tbp do u think the amd gpu will be

stark tangle
#

i think this is accurate?

woeful phoenix
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wait for the launch i guess

obsidian rock
stoic island
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got it

little osprey
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how are you getting 1300$ with a 3100

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holy crap

stoic island
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@little osprey look at the link again

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do you see where it says nz

little osprey
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oh

stoic island
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read better >:P

little osprey
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i just see dollar sign so i assume

stoic island
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it's <900usd

little osprey
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ya

stoic island
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too many dollars

little osprey
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922

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mobo is a lil pricey for a 3100 tho

stoic island
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mhm

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and you wanna try finding another?

rustic sandal
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only a b450 would be better value, the b550 has better upgrade path

little osprey
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if you got to the point where you need to upgrade the cpu u would be upgrading ram too

woeful phoenix
#

get a b550 mag msi

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instead of that gigabyte

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same price better looks

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or even better since it doesnt look like you have a bigger budget

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get a b450 tomahawk max and a better cpu

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also the sn750 500gb is about 63 bucks rn

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Wait what are those prices lmao

rustic sandal
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They’re NZ prices

arctic jungle
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40 mm fans are the best

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the rpm...

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u can buy a 15000 rpm fan

stoic island
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@woeful phoenix read

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look at it

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"same price better looks" eh?

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where

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tell me where

woeful phoenix
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why are you cringing?

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just saw NZ

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lmao @stoic island you dont have to get defensive like i hurt you

stoic island
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:P

woeful phoenix
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i didnt read your sht

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dont have to either

arctic jungle
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:(

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stop trying to avoid the filter

stoic island
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then how did you see my list?

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I mean

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you had to read that message to click on the link

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soo uhh

woeful phoenix
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i checked the guys above lmao

arctic jungle
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@woeful phoenix chill. out. plz :)

stoic island
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is it too much to ask to read what, 3 messages?

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:P

arctic jungle
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xD

stoic island
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I no like having to repeat myself

arctic jungle
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when ppl don't read or listen, and then complain

woeful phoenix
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I did not complain LMAO

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He started stack typing

stoic island
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I'm complaining

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because you don't read

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:P

woeful phoenix
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Idc lmao

arctic jungle
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then go awayyyyyyyyyyyy

woeful phoenix
#

hard to process ?

arctic jungle
#

ur being so toxic

woeful phoenix
#

sad

arctic jungle
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don't make me get theo >:(

woeful phoenix
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Ban me lmao, he started cringing not me

arctic jungle
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he didn't

woeful phoenix
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bye dude

arctic jungle
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ok go away now shoo

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@stoic island wanna watch the amd gpu announcement today in voice chat

stoic island
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ok

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@arctic jungle I'll see if I can

gleaming ridge
#

Hello! I'm looking for assistance in purchasing future computers for my company. We historically have purchased Mini PCs, and they have worked amazingly for what we need. I would like to continue purchasing these type of units. Intel® NUC 10 Performance kit - NUC10i5FNH was one of our previous units, simple and effecient...running about 5-7+ years per system.

Necessity:

  • HDMI Port
  • Ability to run ALL Microsoft products
  • Wifi & Ethernet
  • i5 or i7 shouldn't be an issue
  • 3.5mm Audio port
  • 3+ USB ports
  • Pre-installed Windows 10

Googling the NUC10i5FNH, this can still be purchased, and definitely could work. Simply looking for suggestions from people and what thoughts they may have!

glad lion
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can you get a decent pc with around 600 dollars

languid nimbus
woeful phoenix
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@languid nimbus Go with the p400a digital case if possible, for mobo and cooler imo if youre going with high specs like i7 10700k and a 3070. You need to respect them with a good mobo if oc in the future and a good aio

languid nimbus
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they also have a bequiet 600w (unsure what model) psu from old build, but I’m not sure if they’ll need a new one for if or if they can just transfer it over

woeful phoenix
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You should get a new psu. 650w-750w are fine

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What's his budget? @languid nimbus

languid nimbus
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Not sure 100%, all I really know is the list they sent so I’d assume around the same as what’s listed on there

wheat coral
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i wouldnt use the 212x anymore man

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its agood cooler

languid nimbus
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They’re in another discord group. I just know if I’d of had the chance to come here and ask for changes on my build before I bought it, I definitely would have

wheat coral
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just not good enough

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espcially for a 10700k

woeful phoenix
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It adds a bit

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its + psu

languid nimbus
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Yeah, 10700k basically a little oven

woeful phoenix
#

The things that you could cut is the ram to about 20 bucks

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I got him an nvme ssd instead of a sata 3 for about the same money

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@wheat coral Wanna give your thoughts ?

wheat coral
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i would say different ram and cooler

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ssd looks fine

woeful phoenix
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Cooler is awesome for the money

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and the perfomance is really great

wheat coral
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yeah but for a overclocked 10700k?

woeful phoenix
#

yeah

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it matches a x63

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even beats it a bit

wheat coral
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i heard that it matches a wraith spire stock cooler

woeful phoenix
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nah

languid nimbus
#

& what about mobo? Is that one ok, or change out for b550 or something?

woeful phoenix
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b550 is for amd

wheat coral
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lol

languid nimbus
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Oh woops :p

woeful phoenix
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the z490 mag tomahawk is good

languid nimbus
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Okay, cool

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This is why I ask

woeful phoenix
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Its ready to go, just depending on the budget he should change some stuff

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from my view its a maxed out solid build, nothing missing to update except storage if he needs/wants

late helm
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will a zotac 210 graphics card at least post on a MSI B450 gaming plus max MB ?

languid nimbus
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Said that their budget is 12-1300 max euro

woeful phoenix
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Im right on budget then

languid nimbus
#

Cool, sounds good

woeful phoenix
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He could get a 250gb ssd for windows boot

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to keep things clean etc

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Want me to add it and he can delete it if he doesnt want?

languid nimbus
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970 evo > mp34 ?

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I’ll just let them know that one

woeful phoenix
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He can get a 860 evo 250gb for windows boot

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or a mx500

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Im not aware of team group ssds but I doubt its faster than 970 evo. Let me check

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Looks to be about the same

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But i dont see any pricings on part picker to suggest based on price

languid nimbus
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Gotcha. I’ll let them know. Thanks a bunch love_it love_it

woeful phoenix
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❤️

pliant vapor
#

When do you guys think Black Friday deals are going to start

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And are they even going to be good this year

next kestrel
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theyre gonna start whenever retailers want to start them

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and who knows if they'll be good

little osprey
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well its on november 27th

languid nimbus
#

@woeful phoenix just thought about it, they have 1300 budget and that build was around 1700 lmao

stoic island
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@languid nimbus are they in netherlands?

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I made a ~1500euro 5600x+3080 build yesterday for another guy

languid nimbus
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I’m not sure, they use euro is all I know in all honesty. They also said they couldn’t be bothered waiting on 5600x even though if it does as well as they say, it’d be cheaper and better than 10700k and come with cpu cooler

woeful phoenix
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@languid nimbus ah I see, then you should go for a i5 10600k? Either that or ryzen. i5 still leads the build 1.5k with 499$ price set on the gpu ( prob higher )

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and 3600x b550 tomahawk is the same 1.5k

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Ask him on what monitor and hz is he planning to play and what games.

stoic island
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@languid nimbus alright, can you get what country they're in?

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because NL market is crappy

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even DE market is good

woeful phoenix
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From what he told me earlier the dude send him the first partpicker list so he is prob from nethe. @stoic island

stoic island
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ye just need to make sure

languid nimbus
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Just asked. They said they already have that cpu cooler & a 600w power supply, that’s why they included that cooler in their original build and didn’t include a psu

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I guess that’s where the spare budget is coming from for 10700k and 3070

stoic island
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@languid nimbus what country tho

languid nimbus
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Just asked them

deep coral
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i3😎

languid nimbus
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@stoic island yes, Netherlands

stoic island
#

gotcha

gritty zenith
#

i neeeed rx 6700xt in mini itx form

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or 3060ti mini lol

#

i just need mini gpu that is = rtx 2080ti

cloud oasis
#

3070 is just under 2080ti performance

gritty zenith
#

close enough tho NYEHE

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far better than my current 2060

rustic sandal
#

no it’s on par basically

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it’s 97-103%

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within a few FPS plus or minus

gritty zenith
#

huh, kinda like the ryzen 5000 series which has already been crowned, but that -3% 😮 oh no

languid nimbus
#

@stoic island do you think their budget can be squeezed to fit the 10700k, or would they need to step down to the 10600k?

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Really don’t think their current cpu cooler is enough for 10700k is only problem with that

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And here was their original comment, but no one really offered any help with it, hence why I’m asking here lol

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vague maple
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@languid nimbus what's the budget?

languid nimbus
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€1200, 1300 max

vague maple
#

ok

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i'm assuming for gaming and no color preference?

languid nimbus
#

I would assume so yes but ill double check

vague maple
#

ok

languid nimbus
#

They said both gaming and work @vague maple , they use photoshop and illustrator for graphic design on the side

vague maple
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ok

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so that's covered by the cpu

languid nimbus
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Right, right

vague maple
#

He can throw in a 2 TB hard drive later when he needs it

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and I'm assuming he chose 32 gigs of ram because he knows he needs that much

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the case also comes with a mesh front, dust filters and 3 fans

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is that fine?

#

I would personally spring a bit more for a nicer looking case but it's up to him

languid nimbus
#

Awesome. I’ll let them know and see what they think. Thanks a bunch!

vague maple
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np dude

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should probably get someone more experienced to check my build though lol, just in case, but i can't see any underlying issues in there

gritty zenith
#

lmao when your 4L build is quieter than your atx tower

vague maple
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lmao

#

come here @remote iron

remote iron
#

Hey

vague maple
#

how much money are you willing to drop on your gpu?

remote iron
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Up to $100 cad

vague maple
#

ok

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so you're looking at 75 dollars

#

at that rate you have to buy used

#

you might be able to get a 700 series gpu or a 900 series gpu for that price

remote iron
#

Ah ok thanks

vague maple
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np

long whale
#

He could get a 570

vague maple
#

an rx 570?

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he could yeah

long whale
#

Yea

vague maple
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for used

long whale
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Yea

remote iron
#

I just need one to run gta

vague maple
#

i don't think any of them would run gta at 1080 60 fps

long whale
#

It would

vague maple
#

if you can upgrade the gpu to 200 dollars usd, that'll make a huge difference

long whale
#

What cpu u gave

vague maple
#

talking about max settings, but i guess that's not an option here

remote iron
#

I’m not really look for it to be really high FPS

long whale
#

40 would be optimal

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FPS

vague maple
#

yeah

remote iron
#

Ok

quasi snow
#

You could probably get a used rx 580 at that price

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The 4g model

long whale
#

Just search up your cpu and something like rx 570 gta benchmarks on YouTube

little osprey
remote iron
#

Ok thanks all

long whale
#

Rx 580 sold he like 160 ca

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Be

remote iron
#

Ok

quasi snow
#

@little osprey I'd say you should wait for the new ryzen cpus to come out

long whale
#

Yea

ebon summit
quasi snow
#

They release nov 5 and have much better value than what you have rn

ebon summit
#

Can this stream 60fps720p

little osprey
#

yeah but i'm not really interested in 5900x

languid nimbus
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If they perform as well as they say

ebon summit
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Its on sale on newegg

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Thought it'd be nice

little osprey
#

i wanted min 8 cores but the 5800x is not really a good value in my opinion

long whale
#

No

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@ebon summit yk the 3300x is better in gaming performance than the 2600x

ebon summit
#

How much would that upgrade be

long whale
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It’s actually cheaper

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Ruben 3 3300x

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Ryzen

ebon summit
#

Im getting a prebuilt though im not sure if newegg has something like that paired with a 2060

long whale
#

Why you don’t wanna build your own pc

little osprey
#

@quasi snow i dont know bro, i can't decide because the 10850k is 100$ cheaper than 10900k and looks like good value

ebon summit
#

I dont trust myself

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And don't wanna do hours of watching videos

quasi snow
#

I mean based off the benchmarks the 5800x outperforms both in single threaded tests

long whale
#

I mean you’ve probably watched a bunch already 🤷🏻‍♂️

ebon summit
#

What 😂

long whale
#

It’s not as difficult as it looks bassicly😂

quasi snow
#

I built my first pc in about 4 hours

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There's plenty of step by step guides on yt

little osprey
#

@quasi snow yeah but aren't you scared of 8c being a bit too low in the next 2 years

long whale
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My mobo just came in today

languid nimbus
#

Unless you have a ton of rgb it’s pretty simple lol

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Even then it’s not bad, just lots of wiring

long whale
#

Yea

stoic island
#

@languid nimbus I might have time to try to squeeze it below budget if you can paste the list again for me

vague maple
#

Unless you have a ton of rgb it’s pretty simple lol
@languid nimbus i'm regretting planning to get 12 ll20 fans lol

quasi snow
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It depends what you're gonna do with the cpu

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I think for normal use 8 core will be good for a while

languid nimbus
#

@vague maple jesus lol

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One sec mr1111

vague maple
quasi snow
#

Considering most people are still on 4 or 6 core systems

vague maple
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to get it within budet

stoic island
#

What

vague maple
#

budget

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and good value

stoic island
#

There's no way 3070 is 425 euros

long whale
#

If your streaming your gonna going to stream with the gpu anyways so 8 cores isn’t really needed

little osprey
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i will use three monitors with it with discord youtube etc running on the background while gaming

stoic island
#

It's like 520 euros

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Msrp

languid nimbus
vague maple
#

i just converted 500 dollars into euros

languid nimbus
stoic island
#

Alright @ me so I can find it in a sec

vague maple
#

thought the msrp would carry over

languid nimbus
#

@stoic island

foggy hazel
#

@quasi snow re: cores: not saying yes or no. Just remember that the new "low end" is a 8core zen2 in the consoles

vague maple
#

naed

little osprey
#

the 10850k in germany cost 440 euros

languid nimbus
#

Geez

little osprey
#

the 10900k cost 560euros

stoic island
#

@vague maple heh

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Take a look here

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Scroll down for the regional pricing

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I'm on mobile for a bit

vague maple
#

how difficult would you say is it to custom paint a 360m rad to white, swap out the fans for ll20s, chuck a custom aio sleeve that's white and paint the part that attaches on top of the cpu white?

stoic island
#

I'll edit it when I get to laptop

foggy hazel
#

@vague maple long answer short: not worth it.

vague maple
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wtf

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why is it 520 euros

#

wtf

#

that makes no sense

foggy hazel
#

because of taxes and rules

little osprey
#

yeah ik

vague maple
#

that just throws my build completely outta wack

foggy hazel
#

welcome to the rest of the world

vague maple
#

i don

#

i don't even live in the us lol

foggy hazel
#

and?

vague maple
#

@vague maple long answer short: not worth it.
@foggy hazel right but it's possible huh?

foggy hazel
#

re: paint: ofc its possible

vague maple
#

and?
@foggy hazel nothing, i thought you were implying that i lived in the us

#

ok

#

can i paint the part that attaches on top of the cpu as well?

#

do you want me to send you a link to the cooler that i want to paint?

foggy hazel
#

no

#

because i dont want to deal with the gazillion followup questions.

vague maple
#

i promise i won't ask any question after that

remote iron
#

Is ddr4 good?

vague maple
#

lmao yes

quasi snow
#

Yes

vague maple
#

it's not good, it's necessary at this point

remote iron
#

But 3 is bad

quasi snow
#

Any new system should absolutely have ddr4 in it

vague maple
#

^

#

the price difference now isn't even big

#

its like 1 dollar

remote iron
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

@remote iron your question lacks enough detail for answer in the context you are most likely asking it

#

What cpu are you planning to use it with?

remote iron
#

Ok I’ll have to get back to you with that idk what I have

foggy hazel
#

okay :)

stoic island
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(DDR4 and DDR3 are NOT interchangable)

tired turtle
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hey hey

stoic island
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It's not like PCIe where it's backwards compatible, it has completely different keys

obsidian wedge
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Maxrium reflect made me go to windows pe and now my pc has ran into a problem and needs to restart

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What do I do

desert gulch
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someone will help you in a sec

obsidian wedge
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Ok

desert gulch
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the guys in general usually wont help there lol

obsidian wedge
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Macrium reflect is doing something

desert gulch
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o hi

vague maple
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i would help but i have no clue what macrium reflect is lol

foggy hazel
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@obsidian wedge drop a picture in here please

desert gulch
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naed

obsidian wedge
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It’s a prebuilt I setting it up for my little brother

foggy hazel
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Macrium reflect = tool normally used for cloning drives

vague maple
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i see

obsidian wedge
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Screen just went black

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I think the pc is restarting

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I picked windows 10

foggy hazel
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what did you try and "do" in Reflect?

obsidian wedge
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It’s back

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But it didn’t copy anything

foggy hazel
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please answer the question.

obsidian wedge
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I needed to copy all the old files onto the new files

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From my old ssd

foggy hazel
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so, you tried to clone the drive?

obsidian wedge
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Yep

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I have this machine that I put the ssd into

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So the pc recognizes it

foggy hazel
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aye aye, which you use as the interface for the ssd

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nothing new there.

obsidian wedge
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Basically

foggy hazel
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i can help you. BUT

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i need to go and shop before i do anything, because the shops are closing fairly shortly.

obsidian wedge
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Ok

vague maple
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lmao

obsidian wedge
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Lol

foggy hazel
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i will be able to help in about 20-30 minutes

desert gulch
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have fun

obsidian wedge
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K

desert gulch
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buy a 3080 while your at it xD

obsidian wedge
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Can any1 else help me?

vague maple
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why a 3080

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get a 3090

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sli

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actually get a quadro

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5 of them

obsidian wedge
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Lol

foggy hazel
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could you take the "jokes/spam/general-chatter-that-is-not-related-to-helping-people" back to #general-chat please.

vague maple
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bruh

languid nimbus
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@obsidian wedge your best bet would be to wait for Naed to return, he’s really efficient at troubleshooting and what not. Just sit tight for a bit love_it

obsidian wedge
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Naed would I have to use windows pe?

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Ok

vague maple
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lhs

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can you help me with something

obsidian wedge
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I will just track my discord

languid nimbus
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probably not, but I can certainly try

vague maple
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ok

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you know the aio part that attaches on top of the cpu?

languid nimbus
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Yes

vague maple
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is it possible to custom paint that part?

languid nimbus
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Maybe, I can’t see why not, but it’d likely have to be heat resistant paint

vague maple
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ok

desert gulch
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it could look pretty epic hydro-dipped tbh

vague maple
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hydro-dipped?

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lemme research that

desert gulch
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spray paint water

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it sits on water

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and it makes epic patterns

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its like epic spray painting

vague maple
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i see

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but

desert gulch
vague maple
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there's a screen on the top of the aio that I DONT want to cover at all and I just want to paint it one part

desert gulch
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how cool would that pattern look tho

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o

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you can use tape

vague maple
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lmao that's the exact picture i was looking at

desert gulch
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and cover stuff

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ye

vague maple
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ehhhhhhh

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i really don't want to use tape

desert gulch
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oof

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why you going aio tho?

vague maple
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or do you mean tape to cover the screen and then paint it?

desert gulch
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air is much more efficient imo

vague maple
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because it looks sick and cools well?

desert gulch
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air is still better

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ltt did a vid on it i think

vague maple
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in price to performance yes

desert gulch
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its suprising tbh

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nah

vague maple
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in performance, no i dont think so?

desert gulch
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air is better than aio

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ye

vague maple
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but i probably am wrong

desert gulch
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ltt did a vid on it

vague maple
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eh, air coolers are pretty chonky

desert gulch
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it suprised me too tbh

vague maple
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aios look thicc

desert gulch
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nah b

vague maple
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i watched the video

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and first thing that i wanted to point out

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is that both air cooling and liquid cooling is going to be more than adequate enough in maintaining temps